The Science of Flipping - The Land Investing Strategy No One Is Talking About | Robin Seib

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Want help turning your leads into deals? Check out Robin’s platform https://thelandpilot.com --- What if the deals you’ve been ignoring are actually your most profitable ones? In this episode of T...he Science of Flipping, I sit down with land investing expert Robin Seib to break down one of the most overlooked and scalable strategies in real estate today: land flipping. Robin went from burnout and running a construction company in Germany to building a U.S.-based land investing business that’s done over 1,300 deals and raised more than $12M in capital—all while operating virtually across the world. We dive into why land is a simpler, more scalable model than traditional real estate, how to evaluate deals, and how you can turn leads you’d normally pass on into serious profit. If you’re tired of dealing with contractors, tenants, and unpredictable timelines… this episode will change how you look at real estate. In this episode, we cover: - Why land investing is simpler (but not easy) - How to evaluate land deals (road access, flood zones, slope) - Turning “dead leads” into high-profit opportunities - How to structure deals with multiple lots - Creative strategies like owner financing - Why most investors overlook land (and why that’s an advantage) - How to build a remote real estate business --- Connect with Robin Seib: Bio: Robin Seib is a land investing expert and entrepreneur with over 14 years of experience. Originally from Germany, he built a virtual U.S.-based real estate business focused on land acquisitions and dispositions. After experiencing burnout in construction and house flipping, Robin shifted to land investing and has since completed over 1,300 deals and raised more than $12 million in capital. He specializes in rural acreage, infill lots, and helping investors unlock hidden opportunities in land. Website: https://thelandpilot.com Email: robinS@thelandpilot.com Facebook Group: Search “Land Pilot” on Facebook Want help turning your leads into deals? Check out Robin’s platform https://thelandpilot.com --- About Justin: Justin Colby is the host of The Entrepreneur DNA and The Science of Flipping podcasts and a best-selling author. He is a serial entrepreneur with over and a seasoned real estate investor with over 20 years of experience. Driven by a passion to help entrepreneurs thrive, Justin created the Entrepreneur DNA community to support business owners in building wealth, systems, and long-term freedom. Through his podcasts, books, education platforms, and hands-on mentorship, he continues to help entrepreneurs scale with clarity and confidence. Connect with Justin: * Instagram: @thejustincolby * YouTube: Justin Colby * TikTok: @justincolbytsof * LinkedIn: Justin Colby Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up? The Science of flipping family. We have an incredible guest today. I say that all the time, but I really mean it. These guys and girls are phenomenal. This guy is nothing short of incredible. He's an immigrant who's been able to create massive amount of success here in the real estate space and lives virtually. He lives over in Europe and he lives here in the United States. He's built an incredible business because he does it with land. Robin Saib is here. What is up, dude? Hey, Justin. Thanks for having. me i'm super well this morning like i'm i'm really excited for the opportunity and thanks again like for for just inviting me so my podcast is always about the the tactical structure of how to run a real estate investment business effectively efficiently and profitably right like that's the whole idea about what we do here what i'm so excited about this episode is because there's a lot of people that create excuses for why they can't right they create excuses for all all the things of like oh the market the interest rates the government the financials you know the the buyers the sellers all these things
Starting point is 00:01:05 and you basically on so many levels have been able to say there's an easy way to do it stick to it i can live in europe and do it i can live here in the u.s and do it it doesn't rely on a whole lot of other factors the same way that you just and you and i were just talking you justner fix and flipping and you need to rely on a lot of different factors you've built a business model not only to be successful, but it's just a simple process, right? It's, it's not easy, but it is simple. So you flip land. And it is not new, but it is gaining traction because if someone knows the challenges of flipping, or even the Burr model, it's your boy Justin Colby. So let's talk about what you've been able to build. Oh, man, like, yeah, I give you a little, a little hats, right? Like, I'm an
Starting point is 00:01:56 entrepreneur 40 years now and um i started in real estate as so did you say 40 years 14 i i turned 40 years everything else would be ridiculous it's 14 yeah because i look at you and i'm like you you're 40 years as an entrepreneur how the hell old are you okay 14 that makes a whole lot of my good german genes right like that's right so you know i'm born and raised in germany i was raised in the family of entrepreneurs so i didn't really have a choice than becoming one right because when you grew up was that like you're like in this that you there's so much upside we see like how you can structure your life when you make income wise like how what you can do the decisions you can make so for me was never really okay i i just want to go take a w2 and do something and you know i was always intrigued by real estate i never
Starting point is 00:02:43 didn't start as an investor i started like on the on the contractor side services side right found it a couple of companies sold a couple of those like two pretty well the rest i just failed let's be honest about that, right? Nobody talks ever about that. Every, oh, yeah, I made all this exes. No, I felt a couple of those still, which is totally fine, right? And in 2018, I had a burnout. And then what happened after that, I sold my construction company and was like six months completely out of life and then started real estate investing and had a really good partner friend and mentor and we started flipping houses and flipped, yeah, and our second year's 300, right? And you're a house flipper. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:24 like what it means right the process of house flipping is so heavily relying on you as the operator and i was i was leading the operations because obviously i was good at it so um we structured that but you know like end of 2019 i almost go burnout again like i was feeling that like when you were there like i don't wish anybody that but when you feel that your body is alarming you that we don't sleep anymore and all that hey you're on the wrong space take a little bit of time for yourself right right and this was I went two months to Australia, came back, um, it was kite surfing there every day and all that, and told my partner, man, like, I'm out, right? I don't want that anymore. And, um, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:04:06 he said, hey, wait, like before we quit this, this, this dude coming from, um, from America talking about land flipping. And I said, what shall I do there? I've never been in America. I have no clue what's going on. And we talked about it was Jack Bosch and he's German too, made one event in Germany and, you know, how this guru events go right they tell you all that and how simple that is and you know but i was like so intrigued because i thought by myself when 10% of what he's telling me is the truth right like then i want to do it why because first of all it checked my box of locational freedom does that make sense i mean everybody promised you financial freedom and all that and financial freedom is a really tough word right in my experience but like this locational freedom working where you want
Starting point is 00:04:53 right when you want that that was pretty like I said okay let's do it second of all I was a European had never been in America but like what do we do we watch American movies right so it's the the land of dreams right like you can get here from like how do you say that like the guy that's that's washing the dishes to become a millionaire and I said I want to experience that once in a lifetime let me grab that chance yeah that was March 2020 what happened a month later so we engaged in and set up the companies and then like COVID hit right and bro it was it was rough because you sit down there we couldn't even fly here open bank accounts like like you know like really the basic
Starting point is 00:05:35 stuff was not possible um there was an event schedule for software intake and meet other people and like to live and breathe that right because i didn't know anybody here i had no network nobody right so um man it was the first year was really tough because what i needed to learn was business culture And what I always tell my all my American friends is like, everybody's complaining about regulations and this and this. I said, dude, like you have never done a deal in Europe. Like, we're talking about a closing before that, right? Like, there was a closing you had and then they worked soon. Bro, our closings are sometimes six to eight months.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Like, you know, because the closing procedure is so complicated and hard. And, you know, the German engineer that, let me keep it there. So, no, what happened, you know, we started doing this. We then needed a year to do our first deal. I made zero dollars in profit because I didn't know when you have three adjacent lots that you don't write three contracts with your seller and don't write three contracts with your buyer. You know, you just do one.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So I paid six times closing costs in California, which can pretty much hurt, right? Like, because they're expensive over there. And, yeah, from there, we took it, man. I pretty much early started specializing in buying portfolios because I didn't like the acquisitions game too much about this whole wholesale world, right? It was land wholesaling that we were taught there. So we started buying all packages. I bought my first one, was 144 lots in 24 counties in Florida. I was the first time I got in touch with this concept of private money where I was like literally fascinated by because in Europe you go to a bank when you need money.
Starting point is 00:07:16 you don't go to people you don't go to your friends or family or even to strangers that give you money right like that you can do that here that was like for me like the holy grail well suddenly it's like you can do unlimited things right you and you know like when i did that deal i was like man like you're really on the right past because it's not only private money it's not only the deals it's also you can structure everything in any way you want if everybody agrees on that like there is almost no regulations on that. And today in 2025, it's almost 1,300 deals later with like around $12 million in capital raised.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I think we have done every land deal from $3,000 to $7 million, everything in between. And yeah, this is my turn. Like, as you're talking about this, I was thinking about a deal. My team reviewed with me yesterday. So there's one house, basically three lots. I want to say it was in Birmingham, Alabama. It's a neighborhood. So they're basically infill lots, right?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Now, it's not a neighborhood in you would think like Texas, right, where it's like a bunch of, you know, KB homes, you know, there's 200. But it's still a neighborhood. It's not rural. Yeah. How did someone like you structure this? Because I believe it's more of a land play than it is that the, there's one property on one lot and then there's three other connecting lots.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So basically it's either three or four lots total with only one house on it. How would someone like you approach that deal? Yeah, that's a good question. So we worked a lot with household sailors and house flippers because, you know, the underwriting process in land is something completely different, right? And we've evaluated probably 35, 40,000 lots in the past five years and got pretty good at doing this. So it was when we see a house like this in a constellation, which is pretty common, right? Like that somebody bought multiple lots and had the expectation I built.
Starting point is 00:09:13 like a couple of rental properties and then life happened or whatever. But what I would do is I would take the house isolated because in a subdivision, you know, people don't pay necessarily for acreage. They play for a place like a spot where houses build on. So you isolate that and sell it as a house because you can't add as much value probably through the three lots to that house as when you would retail that. Right. Now, depending on the neighborhood, depending on what's the demand in the market, right?
Starting point is 00:09:47 This is what you need to understand. Are people buying those types of lots, right? Like, or would they want the house, right? This, I mean, we live in 2025. There's data about everything, right? Oh, yeah. So there could be like, for example, working with us, like sending it in, right? Like people do that all the time when they don't know because this evaluation process is different from your house process too.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And then it's just like really looking at the data. like do we take it down isolate the house and sell the three lots single wives do we do like the house with one lot because that's what people want there do we do two two lots or whatever it is right it's it's pretty much it but but i would always say like when you run in an issue like i have a land investor on your side that you know right or that you meet somewhere but there's a bunch of us meanwhile that helps a little bit navigating the land portion of that of that site right yeah the home itself i'll tell you the exact number is the seller wants 50 grand yeah maybe the home is a 50,000 home right and it's on an acre lot right and so that's why i say like and then there's two or three
Starting point is 00:10:59 connected acre lots alongside of that so it's four acre total it's three or four but let's just say three Let's just call it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Now, it's inherited from his sister. He just, he doesn't want anything to do with it. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:14 So, but like the home is not like one of these homes that you would normally just like, there's not much value in the home. I mean, that's why I'm saying like, yeah, it is livable. Not for you and me and most of the listeners here, but it is livable, right? Yeah. Um, so that's where I go, okay. Do you, do you almost wholesale? if you could at 50 grand.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Because otherwise, he's like, I'm just going to throw a tenant in the home and I don't really need to deal with this. I just figured if you get it to a number. Now, he's not off, right? Like, I mean, I do believe probably the land value is probably about 50 grand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So would you consider just wholesaling that sector and then you, you know what I mean? Do you buy it and then you sell off the 50 grand home and then because it's off market? And then you have these two other acre lots that where would you find a buyer for those acre lots? Because it's not a big development area, right? We're talking about Birmingham, Alabama. Like there's not like a big developer or a lot of spec homes in the area.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But I mean, there's homes. So here's my take on that, right? Well, you can buy that house for 50 grand and can wholesale that house for 50 grand and do that. And what do you do in the process of closing it split of the two lots? because they will have value, right? And when you can control these two lots and the house for 50 grand, then why don't you do it while you close that you say, okay, we resurvey that cost you probably a thousand bucks, right?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Just get three parcels and then make probably, I don't know what the loss are worse, but let's say they're like 15, 20 grand each. Right. deal that you control, right? Sit on those slots. And then, I mean, the Dispo strategy on lots like this is pretty much like you can't sell them really
Starting point is 00:13:14 with the realtor. Other than there's builders in the air that buy, right? Like, realtors, I mean, do run the math, right? Like, it's $20,000 a lot, right? Even if you give them 10%, right, it's $2,000. They're going to split that with the buyer's agents. It's $1,000.
Starting point is 00:13:30 They're going to give like 40% to their broker, so they make $600. dollars totally right but you know like there's just different ways of doing that first of all you can go on facebook marketplace listed there and then you listed maybe was owner financing terms right and you know like in land a typical interest rate is 15% right like so and then make a 10 year loan with somebody let him do like a two three thousand dollar down payment or five thousand dollar down payment like 20% is you know like something substantial in that class don't give them it for $99 and $200 a month.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Now, do something like $5,000. A person that's buying a $20,000 a lot that gives you $4,000 or $5,000, that's committed in the world. That's a lot of money for them, right? That's one thing. Facebook marketplace would be a place like Craigslist, like something like that. Because people are looking for affordable living right now. I mean, I'm not so much in the real estate world, but of course,
Starting point is 00:14:26 we are affected by the real estate world and by the demand for housing. And when you look what happened two years ago, like I would say the bread and butter of every land investor up to 2023 was this loss between 40 and $100,000. So lots where people built a five, six, $800,000 house. Now your interest rate rights, right? So what happens? The people that could afford that house in 2022 can't afford that in 2023 suddenly anymore. That's right. So for us from land investors' perspective, like, you know, nobody's picking.
Starting point is 00:14:59 them up but these people need to live somewhere so what they do is they buy a 30,000 a lot. Put a mobile home and trailer or like a cheap build on that, right? And sit out the, I mean, that's why I learned in America, right? The Americans move with the economy, right? Like, so if I economy is bad, we're just like downsize, right? Yeah. And it goes better and we upgrade again, right? And I would say when that's a budget, neighborhood, there's right now some potential that you move it because people are looking for it. Yeah, that's funny. So do you take down most of it? I know. know you've raised a bunch of capital and things of that nature. Talk to us about your strategy
Starting point is 00:15:33 right now. Are you buying most of your stuff? Are you just straight up contracting it and finding the buyer? What is your model? My personal model is we take it down for one reason. We buy them. First of all, in the last three years, market turnaround times and land have tripled, right? This is what we're seeing. Like our main businesses, we diso for other land investors and people that sit on lot, right? This is what became our foretaste through this portfolio purchases. We got really good at Dispo. Yeah. So, and what I was seeing when you handle like, because everybody's in this industry, I think in the real estate is so much like, hey, let's focus on getting the contract. But in land is that the real work starts because now, first of all, you need to find out what's
Starting point is 00:16:21 going on with this house. We don't have inspectors that you can send out there for 400 bucks. They write you an inspection report and tell you that's wrong. No, you need to. like get somebody out there that does that jump for you when you do it virtually right and then the marketing is you don't just like call your realtor buddy and you list it for you makes nice pictures and some touch-ups no you need to find those people and you need to find your channel so um and a lot of people like in our industry were struggling with that this is what this will became our thing the people came to us because we're doing a bunch of deals and they were like hey can you help me selling my deal so um what was your Questioning and sorry just about you funding and raising capital and things of that nature. Yeah, now so and now here comes to thing
Starting point is 00:17:07 I realized in 2022 while I was just doing wholesale like flipping contracts and then in 20 years we became inverse we lost around 50 60% of the transaction on a closing table for two reasons first of all there was a condition issue was the property right second of all there was title issues so when you now have a $20,000 a lot, right? And you need to pay like $10,000 for probate and whatever it is. Suddenly your case doesn't become economical anymore. In your case, it could make sense because you probably need to go through probate or whatever it is like anyway when the sister and the brother and whatever you told me there, right? So you can cover up this cost.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But like we said, okay, I want to be clear when I do all the work in Dispo and we don't turn lots around in like 30 days like a house. We turn lots around in 90 days, 180 days. that's 270 days, right? And then you have the seller conversations, and then you go to the closing table and suddenly, like, anybody goes wild, right? It's a seller backing out, the buyer, not showing up, the realtor going on the title company. I've seen all of those, right?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Totally. Yeah, no, that's all part of it. So what's your, where do you find lots? Where are you targeting lots? And then where are you targeting buyers? Oh, yeah. Interesting question. So the thing is, there's today, like a couple of players in this market that put really well data together, right?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Like, you know, and land, the great thing is there's probably 15 business models how you can play that or 20. Probably it's even more because of the nuances you can vary, right? We specialize pretty much on rural acreage, right, and high value info lots like waterfront, great subdivisions, like where you have like one, one million dollar plus homes. Our acquisition is pretty simple. We do a lot with our partners, and we do it for our partners as a service too. And like my approach on that is like an omniginal approach, right?
Starting point is 00:19:10 We always test markets with text messages. So we pull data. We look for certain like average days on markets, average values and all that. And yeah, man, then it's text messaging or call calling to make a market research a little bit, like what works, what doesn't, work and then go deep it was direct mail and you know Facebook advertising sometimes I did TV advertising in my thing I did a radio editor tell you I was the first guy from Germany in my family that was an American TV can you believe that right yeah they were like okay dude
Starting point is 00:19:42 you're crazy like I think my parents still think that I'm doing like something criminal over here but they don't get it really right but no that's that's it so it's like only channel marketing and then it's like this classical like acquisitions game like you have lead managers and acquisition managers and that close the deal get the contract and so yeah what is so rural you know acreage most people in my world pass on it right and this is something you're looking for what makes this like if i like because i do a decent amount of market if i get a you know 10 acres in whatever city that's more rural what makes it even like what is the baseline thought does this Is this, you know, valuable?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Is there something here? What's the first two things like the fundamental? Because you don't think you would want, you know, 200 acres with no roads. You're just in the middle of just like rolling hills. Like what does that do for you? I would assume. But what are the fundamental introductory, like entry level thoughts you want to go through? The first three questions, does it have this?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Does it have this? Does it have that? Great. Now we at least know there's something here. Yeah, the most important thing is road access. Road access, road access, road access, road access. And when you see a road on Google Maps, that doesn't necessarily mean there is a road.
Starting point is 00:21:02 This is what I learned the highway, right? Like I just closed all the deal. We were in that for three years. There was a road on the maps. It had a name on Google. We bought it. We sold it. Took it back because the guy, it wasn't owned a financing.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It was $200,000 in Florida. He couldn't deal because he found out there is no easement. And he said, I can't deal with that. Like, I don't want to do it. Like, what can we do? So we made a deal. I took it back. Luckily, the title company didn't get it too.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So, like, I had an insurance claim against them. Because, like, not having an easement is an exception on the title policy, right? So, like, and it was, like, a three-year process now to go that. And I just signed all the paperwork last Friday. We got the easement from the surrounding neighbor that was only, the 4,800 acres that just like was like stretching us like along the way. But so Rodex, this is the first most important thing. The second is have a look at like if you can like flood zone wetlands.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Wetlands worse than flood zones, right? Is it like completely wet or completely like in a like wet wet wetlands are probably the bigger problem and slow. These are the three things. So when you can get any kind of a topo map like just see. how much slope i would have when this three boxes check um and i think you know i work a lot with with people in the in the real estate space that miss out on this opportunities right because you are in touch with the seller you already make it and said you know what i have this lot over here in
Starting point is 00:22:39 alabama like in what's north of you um i did a deal there in um Coulham county dover city right like it's a little north of burningland uh hey can you just like take that from me too, right? And now you stop because you don't know how, right? Because it's so different. And I mean, one of the things you can do from there is go to our portal, right? Like the landpilot.com. Just we have a free comm service.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Like, you can sign up for free and you can run three comp reports for free. And after that, it's like 12, 12 bucks a comp report. And my team runs them. So you get my team's knowledge on your evaluation and can then negotiate. It was like, hey, this is what you should. offer this is how you can lose elvite like whatever and then you take it from there and when you have a contract then bring it to your realtor right bring um throw it up on facebook marketplace like i don't know how you really do disposition on the house sites but use this channels you use there too right like
Starting point is 00:23:42 get it in there because people are looking for rural acreage right for two reasons you have a lot of people that are getting out of the city right um um that want to go like bit off-grid that just like don't like the noise, they don't like to be around people that wants some space and not left like in American suburbia anymore, right? You have people that just want a place to hang out all their early on the weekend, hang out with their kids and, you know, go a little bit of hunting, ATVing, and riding dirt bikes and whatever you can do. You have people that, you know, owner to timber and agriculture.
Starting point is 00:24:15 The interesting thing about this rural acreage deals is they're most of the time cash, right? because we see a lot of people packing money in land right now too. Yeah. Right? Because it's like a little bit like the gold of the of the, of the of the of the real estate market, right? Like it's like the safe haven where people feel, okay, they don't make more of it. So let me let me go in there.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Right. And yeah. So and even like, you know, like I said, you can come to us. We take those deals. We help you to contract them. We help you to evaluate them. And when they are there, you can assign them to us or we partner on that deal and stay in a JV.
Starting point is 00:24:50 right because yeah you can just like leverage those leads does that make sense this is what it is i think there's a lot of potential you can you can bring in with your marketing you do right where do people find you robin the landpilot dot com is our website that's my company um and this is where we yeah really like i'm big in collaboration right my whole company is built on that and so if it's good enough for me what i'd tell you all my listeners if it's good enough for me to work something out with robin is damn sure good enough for you guys that is for sure because if you're out here listening and you're coming across opportunities, you just don't know what to do with them,
Starting point is 00:25:25 it doesn't fit your fix and flip or wholesale or buy and hold. And you have this seller, it's like, oh, I got 20 acres. And you're like, I don't know what to do with this. Well, then hit up Robin and team, right? I mean, you're willing to just take the conversation with the landowner, aren't you? Like, if I just said, hey, Robin. We can, we can do that. And they can even do it by ourselves.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Like, listen, he has my take on that. Like, the guys who are in real estate, are much sharper, better, and crazier than we land investors, right? Like, because you really, you're in the hardest competitive market you can be. I don't know. I read somewhere there is almost a million house flippers in the U.S. And the wholesalers, that's like probably a percent of the population, like being in the same pot, right? We land, we're like much less.
Starting point is 00:26:12 But like, you know, like you are so sharp on negotiating. Like, what I can give you and your computer. community is like just the right tools because it's just a flip in the conversation to understand how you drive it. And what you are lacking in your conversation, you're not confident because you don't have the evaluation. And we give that to you. Like we give that to you. Like you can just like take it for landpilot.com. Lianpilot.com. We give you the right contract. Our contracts are a little bit different, right? Like, but it's probably for you, a 10, 15 minutes learning experience to leverage a couple of 10 or 100,000. thousand dollars extra a year in your business you're not missing out on this opportunities and everybody's talking return on ad spend right yeah when you can suddenly have from let's do you do 30 deals and from that 30 deals is one or two people that give you an extra like 50 60 80 000 like how does that shift your business and we do all the work for you when you work with us right but
Starting point is 00:27:10 we can also give you the hint how you can do it by yourself you get the evaluation from us because I think this is how you truly leverage that, right? There's no doubt. And so what's on your radar moving forward? I know you got some really cool stuff coming up, and I want to talk about that kind of stuff. Yeah, Matt. So what we do is, first of all,
Starting point is 00:27:30 we're building capital stake right now, right? It's like in the mess that we do, we take down, like I think in September, we're 22 deals. And in October, it's around like 30 years. It looks like 35. And we're scaling right now. So we're building capital stake.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And we're always looking for people that are interested in being a money investor in our game, right? Like with good interest rates, we have more passive versions, more active versions, right? Like how you can do that. Sure. I think for our investors, what they really love is that, you know, it's like uncomplicated. It's an underwriting process needs to fit in land, right? When you do that well, when you make a good decision about what you purchase, you will sell it. It's just a matter of time until you get paid back and we don't rely on.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Crews, like, you know, like construction crews have this one word that I really don't like. It's called tomorrow. Like when you ask them, when are you finished today? Tomorrow. Yeah, they never define when tomorrow is, right? Yeah. In the week, in a day, in a year, in the lifetime. And we don't have that, right?
Starting point is 00:28:34 We do a problem around the ride. So that's what our people, people really like. And secondly, we also give opportunity for household salesists that want to, you know, like a bunch of people is what we realize. is they have a lead manager, a good lead manager, good acquisition manager, but they're, you know, they don't have like too much work for them with a full done for you land business model. So imagine like you can really have the whole process from data pulling and market selection to a property is sold when that is soft for you. And the only thing you do was your team is doing the seller conversations, doing business. This is what we do. And because I think, you know, a lot of the people in our industry don't start in the industry to build massive businesses like you did and I didn't.
Starting point is 00:29:28 There's not many people who want to run teams with 50, 20, 30 people, you know, staff overhead and all about what goes with it. But, you know, there's a bunch of people who start this to make $200,000 a year to get out. of their W2, right? And this is like what I really want to serve because I believe in real estate. I believe in land. And, you know, it's just about making those tools accessible for everybody because people get confused, right? Like, I'm all the way to do that.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I think it's one thing for people to have tools, but it's another thing for you to help them utilize them. Yeah. You know, and so if there's a world where you can do that, dude, everyone should be having these tools, everybody. This is what it is. Yeah. This is what we do.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Like, we explain how to use the tool. in like an ecosystem that makes sense, right? That's right. There's so much, I mean, you know that too. There's everyday new software, new service, and new something popping up, right? And then you are there like, okay, let me try to take over the Starship here and like navigate that. Like, how does it work, right? And then you need like one tool for data selection, I want to a for market selection.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I want to like then you have AI and all that. And we build that really together to make it comprehensive that people can just, like sit themselves in a driver's seat and you know not build another job love that love that well robin sive i appreciate the landpilot.com landpilot.com is a website where else should people find you um what website besides land pilot if anything where else can people communicate with you man um it's facebook right like i i i hang out on facebook all day facebook messenger right um is where you find me. We have a Facebook group too, right?
Starting point is 00:31:16 A land pilot Facebook group is where you can find us. And yeah, man, like this is where I am. Or just write me an email. Can I say that here? Just write me. Robin S. the landpilot.com. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I get a bunch of emails every day, but I'm really obsessed with my emails too. Get on that, right? Say your email one more time, brother. It's Robin S. and the landpilot.com. Let's go. Landpilot.com. I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:31:47 someone that deals with contractors and buyers and buying properties and selling properties and raising money and remodeling and, ah, I tell you, every time I talk about land, it just sounds so sexy.
Starting point is 00:31:58 So it's good enough for me, guys, to work with Robin and is damn sure good enough for you. I am Justin Colby. That is Robin Syb. This is the Science of Flipping Podcast. If this was helpful, please share it with two of your friends. We'll see you on the next episode.

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