The Shane Dawson Podcast - Childhood Brainwashing Conspiracy Theories!

Episode Date: January 18, 2026

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So, Stranger Things is based off of something called the Montauk projects. But is that something that happened or is that just a theory? MK. Ultra is real. Whoa. Yeah. Colorado is a bunch of weird government stuff there. That's what I'm saying. We need to go on a conspiracy band investigation.

Hey, welcome back to whatever the hell. This is New Year Who This Edition? Yikes. Who this? Who this? You know what I mean? I like that. That's better.

But in the whole new year, new meet. No, it's new year. Who the fuck is that? Which I thought yesterday when I looked in the mirror. I've been in an editing cave for like three weeks. And then I looked up and I was like, oh, God. Oh, oh, God. My hair is great.

You've given yourself to the art. Thank you. As we say, which is beautiful. I really threw my health, my mental health. I threw everything out the window. And I said, let's go, baby. But we're back. Wow.

I'm so excited to be here. It has been so long. We haven't filmed in this room in, like, like a month, maybe a month and a half? I think yeah, at least a month. And normally everything's set up. We leave it set up, but because of the show and everything going on, nothing was where it normally is.

And I was like, oh, I don't remember where anything goes. Oh, no. Like I was like. I know there was cake rotting everywhere. Where? We have so much to talk about. We have a lot planned for today. We have games planned.

We have conspiracies planned. We have a lot going on. I don't know how much we're actually gonna get to that because I feel like the girls have a lot to chat. Honestly, you missed most of it at lunch. Really? What were you guys talking about? Oh, we've covered all bases.

I don't even know if I can give the headlines. Chris was spewing. That's a common problem with this podcast. Ryland just wants to chat before we do it. Yeah, stop doing it. Sorry, I haven't seen everyone in a while. I wanted to know what was going on. I will say, it's hard to look at Ryland because his ears are blinding me.

You want to compliment yourself? New Year, New Ears edition. Also, let me just say this. So it was Christmas, right? And I was like, okay, I really did not do great this Christmas because of the pilot. Like, there was no time. It took up all of our December. And November.

Pre-production took all of November. And then filming took all of December. So I only got Rhineland a few gifts. But one of them was a banger. And I knew it was like, I'm just going to give him this. And then I'm not going to do all the knick-knacks and all the crap because he's going to throw it all away anyways. So I only got him one, you know, major gift, which was earrings. And I was going to give him the earrings before we shot the pilot because, you know, he's in the pilot.

He plays the gay assistant doing. And I was just like, oh, maybe he could wear the. on the pilot. When I told you that, you were just like, Dylan couldn't afford these. I already had to pare down my rings for my character. I was like, my character wouldn't have this. I will say, I mean, listen, we'll get to that in a minute. I don't want to like, we have so much to talk to that. You don't want to detour from my rocks. But I will say, you're acting impressed me and impressed honestly everybody. Like, everybody on set was like, wait, he's good. You know who I was tickled by is totally sketch. He was like,

genuinely complimenting me nonstop and it felt real. It felt like he didn't expect it. And I was just like, wow, thank you. I think some people might like shut down around like a crowd, you know, like when we're filming, it might be like go time and they're scared. I think when it's go time, I'm better. Oh.

I'm the opposite. I work better for a crowd. Both of those things are good grinder bios. When it's go time, I'm better. I work good with a crowd. Well, I'm proud of you. Okay, yeah, I guess let's just jump into it because... Oh, nobody else had a Christmas.

Okay, we'll save them. Okay, I was going to bring up how amazing everybody was in the pilot, but I guess we'll save that for a second. How was your guys' Christmases? It was literally a month ago at this point. Okay, who cares about your Christmas? I was sick. Okay.

But we had just gotten back from New York. I wasn't feeling too well. So we just pretty much hung out the whole week and I was in bed. Love that. Yeah. Honestly, I love that. I've still never been to New York. How was it?

You know, it embodies most things that I hate about cities. But I did enjoy going there to visit family. Sandy always has wanted to go to New York, so that was great to go there with her. I loved the walking. I became a walk star again. Oh, nice. I was hitting 20K a day consistently, but they do like scamming people in New York that are tourist. Yeah.

You know, a couple of times I got out of it, but they did get me a few times. I paid $40 for two hot dogs and French fries. Wait, what? Do the math, right? In a bottle of water, I'm sorry. $10 a piece. And you didn't even get any hot nuts. Oh.

Nuts for nuts is the big thing there. The fucking hot nuts, Chris. They smell so good. What's hot nuts? Listen, New York is amazing. It's, you know, New York. We all love it, right? You hate New York.

Oh, you guys both hate it. Every time I've been there, I've had a full-on panic attack. Ikea level. And it's not because I don't love the people. I love the people in New York. But every time I go there, because of the buildings, and they're so crammed and so high and everything is so loud.

I have full mental breakdown panic attacks every time I'm there. So I don't know how to get over that, but the hot nuts do help. Wait, but what is it exactly? I still don't. It's a bag of hot nuts and they're sweet and they're salty

and they're amazing. Oh, my God. So good. That sounds good. Chris, how was your Christmas? Good and crazy. A bit of both. Very much a telenovela.

A lot of things happen. But, you know, Eve was very easy, very fun. we played games it was great epa soli at the malas it was great but christmas day uh everything fell apart because my dad who randomly moved to florida decided he was going to just show up christmas day um this is a movie we were like what and so yeah he was like oh i'm randomly i'm just going to show up christmas day and i'm like please don't we all have plans i'm going with my mom and her boyfriend to his place we're celebrating there and i can't ditch them and like he made food from scratch and like

all of that i can't ditch them Also, it's like Christmas Day. The tickets are going to be so expensive. It's pouring rain. None of us can come get you because we have plans. And like, there's just a million reasons why this is a bad idea. And he was like, okay. And then like 10 minutes later called me.

He's like, I'm going to do it anyway. And I was like, good for him. Good for him. I like a guy who's decisive. And so he showed up. Yeah. And like, oh, I got a million calls that day. He called me in the airport.

And he's like, oh, the rental car company's closed because it's Christmas Day. So I can't get my car. And I'm like, right. everything's closed because it's Christmas like I told you. And then he was like, well, this sucks what I do. Get an Uber and I'm like, I guess so. And then he calls me back. He's like, can't figure out how to get an Uber.

I'm like, okay, I'll do that for you. And then he's like driving to his house and he calls me and he's like, oh, I know you're in the middle of a dinner, but like I don't have the keys to my house. So I can't get in. I need you to drive two hours away in Lancaster. Of course. I'm like, oh, like we're in the middle of dinner. I can't do it.

And it was like so stressful. and then things were nice for a little bit. We opened gifts. Everyone had a good time. I saved up and I ended up getting my mom a really nice purse. Side strap. No, no, it's fine. And then.

Top handle. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. And like, everyone was happy. It worked out. But then my mom calls me crying the next day being like, oh, no, the purse is gone. And I'm like, what do you mean?

The purse is gone. And she's like, the only one that was here was your grandmother. You don't think. And I'm like, oh, no. A bewa. Because if you know. It really is, we should make like one of the, one of those short form soap operas.

If you know, my Ovalita, she's like, oh, we do, I do. She's like a little bit of a klepto, but it's always just been like little change, little chachshikis, nothing crazy. Like little things, right? I saved up change for Power Rangers toy. She took that.

I'm still mad about it. But it's never been a whole purse. And so I was like, that seems crazy even for her. I don't think she would do that, but she's like, it's not here. I don't know what to do. Long story short, she got someone at the place

where my grandma stays to take a picture of the purses in her room and it was there. So she definitively took it. My mom got proof. She called her and she's like, hey, so I know that you took my purse and I need you to give it back. And she's like, how dare you? I am your mother to accuse me of such a thing. And she's like, I would never do this to you. You are the worst daughter in the world for accusing me of.

And my mom like normally in the past when this happens, she would just be like, oh my God, you're right. I'm so sorry. She like successfully gaslit my mom. But this time she's like. Like, no, I have a picture. I have proof, drop it. Like, give me my burst back. And she was like, what do you mean? Maybe it fell in a bag. I would never. That's the craziest thing ever. And it's crazy on so many levels. Like, not only was she stealing from your mom, she's stealing from you that

saved up money to give your mom a nice. Wow. So then what happened with your dad? I mean, I ended up seeing him two days later. And he was like, wow, that was all a nightmare. I should have listened to you. And I'm like, yeah, you really should. You really should have. Yeah. Wow. You need to turn all. Get Lindsay low hand and turn all of that to a Netflix Christmas. That's what I'm saying. Make a vertical. And this is like the quick version. There's so much more that happened. It was a very stressful Christmas thing. Christmas movies do

need a shift. Because I watch like five of them this year. I think they're all the same. This to me feels like representation of a real Christmas. A little bit of crime in there. Now you have a goal for the new year. Write a script for next Christmas. How do you top of that?

So Christmas. Grandma stole Christmas. Yeah. The grandma who stole Christmas. Oh, that's okay. See what I mean? We workshopped it. We got there. Okay.

Netflix. Hey, sorry to interrupt the show. Whoa, this is confusing because we're all still in the same place. What? Where are we? Are we in? AdVille? Adland.

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and for keeping all of our annoying people in our lives quiet while we're isolated. The gift that keeps on getting it. Enjoy the rest of the show. It's been a crazy month. I can't believe the pilot is done. It's not fully edited. I have like 40 minutes of it done.

I still have another 20 minutes to go. I've been editing every day. I'm so excited. I love editing so much and it's so fun to edit something that I'm so excited about. Like every day I'm just just so excited to dive in. But yeah, the shoot was amazing. I don't even know where to start. I have notes here because I was like, I don't want to forget things.

But so much happened. And all of you guys were a part of it. Everybody here was so good. Can I just say, nailed all of your jokes. All of them. Well, Chris didn't really have any jokes because you were more the empathetic dog adoption guy. But you nailed it. Made me feel something.

I'm so happy here that I was so nervous. Really? Why? Oh, I was panicking. Like, I think just because it's you and because like I so didn't want to let you down that like it really I really let it get to me honestly. No. I will say there was I wasn't like overly nervous by any means. But I think it was once we did the table read and I was like, oh my gosh. I kind of feel like I'm a little amateurish for this because we walked in and said he's like so do people like fully act?

during the table read or did they just read it? I was like, I think it's like they just read it. And then like it just started right off with like full blown acting. And I got so into it. I missed my part, you know, and I got into it. But I must have practiced my lines 5,000 times. I was watching videos about Daniel DeLewis. To see how he gets into character.

I was thinking about going method. I built a whole character around this person. I had a backstory. Period. And then, you know, I figured out, once I figured out the cadence of how I was going say something i lived in it when i'm just saying you killed it like literally every every moment of your like every joke you have lands and i'm so excited as i'm editing it i'm just like i'm so proud of you like it's so funny and you're teamed up with her name is sally presman she plays sharon in the show she's

fucking so incredible all the actors are incredible she's so good and also like i was posting about her clips from her uh on the patreon and there's a bunch of comments she's on a lot of stuff yeah i mean i knew her resume was crazy, but she's on like a show called Army Wives. She's on a lot of Sandy's like a legitimate fan of her. Oh really? From good girls. Sandy did tell her too. Sandy said, I loved you in this show. She's one of the funniest people I've ever met. She's so fucking funny and all her scenes are with Jared and you guys had chemistry. It was working. You know, that Daniel Day Lewis prep. Really did. And don't think we forgot about Spencer's role as employee. Wow. Yeah. I had by far the least amount of lines.

Well, you nailed your line too. You had multiple lines, multiple little moments. You gave me varieties. No, he was so good. And yeah, I posted a picture of you, like, on the monitor. And so many people were just like, you were like, you look like a movie star. Everyone thought I looked so different. And I think it's just because the hair people combed my hair.

I never combed my hair. They were like, wait, what did you do? You look so different. Like, I think they just combed my hair. Literally the only different. The scenery was also really good. Like, unique. Like, it looked very cinematic.

Yeah, but it was so fun. Like, the locations are so cool. And they, everything feels like a movie. Like, it feels so legit. Like, it really does feel like a real movie, a show. And like, yeah, so the rage ground in L.A., please check them out. I'll put the link in the description. They are so incredible.

I paid for all these locations. I'm not, they're not, you know, but I wanted to still give them all shoutouts because they did really work with us. Like, let us stay there for 12 hours while we were filming. But yeah, that's a place where you go and you just destroy shit. Like, I wrote it. scene in the show where this, you know, it's about an actress, Rachel, who gets canceled the night before the Oscars. It's a worst day of her life. And then she meets her new assistant, Tim, and they

kind of go on this adventure. And one place she goes is a rage room and she, you know, destroys a bunch of shit. And it was a, I didn't know this place existed, but it does. And it was fucking crazy. We had the actors destroying cars. We had like a stunt guy there who was like this Irish guy who's awesome. And he was just like, so we would do a take, right? Where our actress Lily, who's amazing was just beating the shit out of everything with baseball bats glass is flying everywhere it's all real it's not like fake glass or anything and she like puts her whole fucking body into it and like after a take where you know she just destroys the whole fucking room it's gonna take another like 30 minutes to reset everything up um the assistant director turns me and she's like we got it right

we can move on and he just walks over he's like we got to do it again I was like we do and he's like oh yeah let's do it again I was like let's do it again and it was even fucking better and she went even crazier and he turns me he's like see yeah let's do it again period um so that was so fun like the whole you know two weeks basically that we were shooting our lives were so different like getting up at four in the morning every day getting in the car to drive to set with riland you came pretty you know every single day with me like it was just so fun it really did feel like this is what i wanted to do my whole life like directing being on set working with actors working with creative you know people and like coming up with ideas on

the spot like so many of the moments on the show were things that on the spot we would think of like it was just so fun and just honestly the best besides the birth of our children i would say the best week of my life it was so fun and it's so fun to be with a whole group of people that are collaborating that are passionate about one project to make it come to life and it just felt like bigger than it felt magical. Yeah, it really did. I'm so grateful and excited. I love the show so much. I can't wait for it to be done, like to be fully edited and, you know, and so, okay, I wrote down a few things. First of all, I don't have a plan. Like my plan was to get the show made, to make the episode, to show people that I can do this. I can write something like this, direct something like this. I have the whole season

lined up, you know, outlined and stuff. So my plan is to do some screenings for streamers and, you know, it's done and hopefully praying that somebody buys it lets us make the season. That is my goal. Like it feels like it is like every step of the way how we found the actors, how I connected with the DP who filmed the show, how the music like has been lining up as I've been editing and like Colby sent me a library of songs from his friends and I was just like, thanks. And every single song is perfect for the show. I'm like, everything is working out so crazy that I'm like, It has to mean something.

So I'm just going with that. The plan is to start pitching it once I'm done, hopefully end of January. And hopefully somebody buys it. So that is kind of the current plan. But there is obviously we had Sal, who, if you guys don't know Sal, he edits some videos for me. He also has been working with us for like the last six months editing and stuff. So he flew out. He filmed the whole process of the behind the scenes and making the whole thing.

So he's been editing that. That's going to be on the Patreon. We're starting to post some of that now. Shout out to Sal, by the way. He was my muse on set. You're new. Yes, because I was a cameraman. So I would watch how he talks.

Watch how he walks. So I really was living through Sal as well. So I was just walking around set and Jared was walking behind him. I was like, what's going on here? What my children do to me? Hey, so shout out to sell. He's the great guy. Yeah, it's really great.

Also, there was a day that I was really nervous about. We had a dog on set. So when the dog comes to set, it's a whole fucking thing. Humane society, somebody from their cons, a trainer comes. There's a whole bus. Like, they have to give, like, the dog has a trailer. Like, the dog was treated better than all of us. Anyone else on the show.

Was paid way more than anybody on set. Like, that fucking dog costs so much fucking money. But you need a trained dog for those scenes because, like, it's long days. Like, the dog doesn't do much in the show, but he's always kind of there, like, just kind of sitting around and stuff. And, you know, the dog, the dog was not in a good mood that day. And it was really funny because it's supposed to be a big moment where Rachel, she's never had a dog. She was never allowed to have a dog because her manager, Sharon told her the stress would age her. And, you know, she's never allowed to have a dog. So now that she's canceled, she's like,

fuck it, I want a dog. She adopts this dog. And, you know, it's supposed to be this really loving sweet moment where she's like dancing in her room with the dog. And the dog was not fucking having it. So then, like, literally the actress is playing Rachel. She's like, you know, dancing in her room and there's a moment where she's supposed to go pick up the dog and like give it a kiss and twirl with it And we just are watching her dance and we're seeing the dog get slowly angrier and like staring at her and I was just like I like yelled that. I was like don't grab the dog. Don't do it. Don't do it. But Lily she's a pro and she's like no, it's in the script. We're doing it. And then she goes to grab the dog and the dog just goes And just like starts to fucking attack her basically It was so crazy. I she was fine. She didn't actually get it. It was so funny. It was so funny

But the Humane Society lady didn't even like, didn't phase her at all. I was like, okay, we're fine. So then I go downstairs or right afterward during the break, and I see the Humane Society Lady and the pet trainer just with cups of cake. And they were just like, this set is great. Period. So this, no animals were harmed in the making of this pilot. And also, you know, the trainers were happening.

I heard about that incident right before I acted with that dog. Oh, yeah. Okay. I was like, is it going to also attack? No, and you're- Very sweet to me. Okay, yeah, the dog was in a good mood that day. I don't know what happened on that first day, but second day.

It was a night. We were the night shoot. And Chris, it was also outside when Chris was there. It's a little more like, yeah. This is crazy. Huge shout out to Jacob fucking Sartorius.

So I was going to like keep this a secret, but then I just couldn't. And then one of the actors posted a reel of the table read where Jacob was like in it. So I was like, okay, the secret's already out. So like, let's just go there. Jacob Sartorius is a fucking comedic genius.

I'm like not downplaying. I'm like, it is literally insane. So, okay, there's a character in the show called comma. And he's kind of like, you know, an influencer. Yes, he has his own merch line. Comma, because there's always more to come. Yes. And that's something that I, okay.

So like years ago, maybe like 2021, I think we were filming a video or something. And I was like, you know, saying period all the time. Because, well, I guess I still am. And then I was just like, you know what, comma, because there's always more to come. And then I like kind of put it. that in the back of my head. And then once I was writing this, I was like, his name is comma.

Always more to come. Wait a minute. So the character is kind of like just a monster influencer with grills, with a whole production studio. He has an energy drink. He has a skincare line. He makes movies. He funds things. Like it's this intense, crazy character. And I was like, who are we going to find to play this? Like, it's so crazy. And the show is grounded, right? It's not like an over-the-top show, but this character's very over-the-top. But it has to feel real. How are we going to find somebody who couldn't do this. Literally the first audition tape I got, like when I opened it up that night,

it said Jacob Sartorius, and I ran in Rylan's room, and I was like, ah, you're never going to guess, you're never going to guess. And we watched it together. And we were like, he's good.

He's really good. And like, it was so real and genuine and funny and like intense and weird. And like, he had like foil in his teeth. Like he went all out for the outfit. And I was like, oh my God.

And then even after the table read, I would say all. the actors were most excited about Jacob. They just couldn't stop talking about his performance. It was just hilarious. He delivers. So I watched the audition tape. So this is months ago, right? Like two months ago. I see the audition tape and I'm freaking out. I like call the casting director and I was like wrap it up. Cast him now. Holy fuck. He's incredible. And we started talking. He is so good. Met him for the first time at the table read. I was so nervous. Like Jacobs Tori is walking in. Like what? And he was the nicest person I've ever met. And it was real. It wasn't

fake. It wasn't like, you know, putting on a show. He was genuinely so sweet and like just so excited to be a part of it. And then once a table read happened and he started doing his lines, I could feel the room. Everybody in the room was just like, he just is stealing the show. Like he's so fucking good. It's crazy. Period. Period. Period. Semicolon. Because there's more to come, but it's a little confusing. In context. And yes, that's why Ryland's wearing the sweater because we had an amazing costume designer who did the show and she had all these made and they're so legit and like amazing embroidered yeah i stayed just to hang out after my scene and you were recording that scene and everyone around me watching or listening at all was covering their mouths and like

trying so hard not to laugh everybody there's a moment where another character played by denzel whittaker who's incredible he plays a character called mel who's amazing by the way this guy's been in like every fucking movie ever you definitely have seen him in everything great improviser so fucking funny so sweet so yeah shout out to everybody who helped us create this show shout out to all the actors derrick lily sally literally everybody that was a part of this shout out the d p great cotton who is incredible please check out his movie twin list it's one of the best movies Chris have you seen it no you need to watch it it's it's gay you like gay show oh i mean it's gay it's really good check it out. And yeah, shout out to all the production designers, all the background actors,

all the set department, literally the crew, the lighting and the grip, every single person that was a part of this. Like, I tried to give a little speech at the end when we were doing the rap and I cried and I like couldn't even get through it. But then we had a rap party and everybody came and it was so sweet. And now I'm known for doing cakes, which, listen. Oh my God. That was the through line of the whole sheet. That was like, you know, like when, you know, an actor will go on Jimmy Fallon and they'll be like, let me tell you this story from set or whatever, our thing is going to be the fucking cake. Because here's what I did, right?

This is my mistake. So for the first day of shooting, I was like, I'm going to bring a Susie cake. Because of course I am. Yes. When do I not? So I was like, okay, I'm going to get a cake. I don't even remember what I wrote on it. And then literally an hour later, by the way, it's like five in the morning, right?

I drop the cake off. Now I'm working and talking to actors, I'm doing things. I turn around. It's like six in the morning. The cake's gone. And I'm just like, where the fuck did the cake go? Everybody's like, oh my God. Thank you so much for the cake.

And I was like, okay. Well, I guess now I have to bring it. Somebody was like, what's the cake flavor going to be tomorrow? And I was like, oh, we're doing this. Okay, now we're doing this. So not only am I working 13-hour days on set, but on the way home, as I'm like so exhausted, I'm post-made in a cake and figuring that, whatever. So then the next day.

And it's not just the cake and the flavor. It's also like the best quote of the day to put on the day. Yeah, because it was always a reference to the day before. It was always like a thing that happened the day before. And everyone's like, ooh, what's it going to be? What's it going to be? Yes. Like, for example, you know, drops of Jupiter.

The song is a big part. of the show. So one day it's a drops of Jupiter. So then it became a thing though where it was like, well, what's the cake going to say? So now all day, everybody's like trying to have their cake moment. Yeah, yeah. That's what it felt like. They'll like say something. Well, you know, they'll like say something and then like look at me and be like, that's a cake quote. Or something crazy would happen. And we're like, that's got to be on the cake tomorrow. It's like, all right, we'll see. We'll see. But then like some days we'd have a really hard, you know, rushed, crazy, intense day. And I'm like, there was no cake moments. Like the fact that we survived that

day is like good in itself. But one of the cake moments did get me in a little bit of trouble. So in one of the scenes, there's a publicist character who, you know, comes over to Rachel's house and, you know, she's been canceled. Her life is over. And he sits down with her and he was just like, you're going to be fine. And she's just like, does not make me feel any better. And then he goes, I've had people killed before for much less than this.

So then that became a moment where everybody was quoting it all day. And I was like, I need to put that on a cake. I've had people killed before. Like, come on. That's such a good cake. But how am I going to get Susie to do it? to do this. The people at the cake, a Susie Cake should be like, what is this?

Who is this for? Well, that was my fuck up, right? So, first of all, Sally, who played Sharon, she had been posting the cakes on Instagram every day and tagging Susie. Then Susie started following me. And Sally was just like, oh, I'm your fucking manager now. I'm getting Susie. Susie's on board.

I was like, oh, my God. Very in line with her character. Yes. I was like, thank you, Mama. So now Susie's following me. She's reposting all the cakes every day. So I'm like, okay, if I call Susie Cake and explain why my postmate order says I've killed someone.

If I explain it to them, they'll do it. So I call and I'm like, hey, I have a request. So I'm shooting this TV show and every day there's a new cake with a quote from the show. And, you know, it's kind of a crazy show. So the cake I want tomorrow is I've had people killed before. And she was just like, oh my God, that's so funny. And then she was just like, yeah, we can do it. And I was like, okay, great.

She goes, maybe I should bleep it though. I don't know. I don't want to get in trouble. I was just like, I mean, you know, I don't want to get you in trouble. And then I say, although I will say, Susie has been reposting the cake. Oh my God. Just to say like,

Susie's on board. So like you won't get in trouble. And then she goes, oh, then I can't do it. If Susie's been reposting them, I'll get fired. And I was like,

you're like, send me the fucking send me the, I was like, oh fuck, oh fuck. So she's like, I'm so sorry I can't do it. And I was like,

okay, I understand. I don't want anybody in trouble. She's like, I'm so, so sorry. I'm like, it's okay.

I totally understand. But, you know, so I put in the cake description, I've had people K-a-astricht, asterisk, asterisk, you know, L-L before or whatever. The cake shows up. It said I'd have people killed before. And I was like, she risked it all for us. She didn't get fired.

If anything, give her a raise. So, yeah, thank you, Susie for making her shoot so incredible. Not only you have incredible cakes, you're down to clown. But if the show does get picked up and we're shooting for like six months out of the year, I'm not doing a cake every day. I already don't fit into my pants. I mean, you're not, but production is. Everybody on the show was like,

struggling by like day eight we were all sick. We're like climbing out of. Well there were days where we had it would be like, all right guys, we're breaking up. It's like the scene after lunch is like we gotta go. We gotta go. We're behind and then it's like,

Hey, everyone have a slice of chocolate cake and like in the middle of the day and everyone's just like, and those cakes were fucked up by the end of the day. Yeah. People were just using cups and like not even plates anymore or not even spoons. People were just like using their fingers

just eating it out of cups. It was like fire fest. It was fucking crazy. It was like on mean girls where they all turned into like the jungle the cafeteria. They're all eat with their hands. It was like that with the cake. Yeah. So that's the story of the pilot. There's so much more obviously. I'm just so excited. Thank you guys so much, by the way, for supporting the Patreon. That's literally how I funded

this whole thing. I don't think I ever would have funded something this big on my own. Just because now, especially that, you know, with kids. We've got like it's hard to justify something like that. Like this was a huge, huge undertaking and a big financial thing. So thank you guys so much. I'm so excited. All the behind the scenes, the podcast from set. Spencer did like a set tour vlog style thing with a podcast. Like all of that's on the Patreon if you want to check it out. I've been posting scenes from like the callback auditions from the chemistry reads and we're going to all year have so much really cool stuff. So I'm really excited. Check it out if you want. And yeah, that was 2025. Wow. Incredible. And here we are. Who to fuck this?

Who this? Literally. Well, speaking of Hootis, I got to pee really bad. I'm going to go and I'm not going to look in the mirror. God, I just feel rough. You know what I mean? When you're just editing for weeks. Oh, and the cake? The cakes.

It's like, we got to really kick it into gear now that it's the new year. Okay, go pee. Yeah, it doesn't eat. You're actually hammer dancing. It's like so painful. Okay, go pee. Okay, we'll be right back. We'll see you guys in a minute.

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Because I have not talked, what was that face? I'm not allowed to look at you. You just look scared at me. You don't like my new voice? New voice, who is? It really has fluctuated like three times. throughout this episode. I'm like, what's going on? I think what's happening is because I literally have not spoken in three weeks,

because I really have just been at my computer editing and obviously helping take care of the kids. So because I have not been talking that much, I think my voice is just like, who does? Like, what's going on? It's getting really fucked up. So yes, my voice might continue to change, but also helps us because this is conspiracy corner. It is. So much dark, crazy shit to talk about. Wait, did we win an award?

Yes, okay. Well, okay. What? And I have a fucking bone to pick about this. Wait, what? Whoa. Okay, first of all, the reason I brought this was not to flex, because, yes, we won the crate digger.

What? Yeah, what does that mean? I don't know, but Spotify said it's a little more than I love it. So thank you, Spotify. The reason I brought this, though, is because I just want to show, I do love Spotify. Thank you so much Spotify. But our first conspiracy is about how Spotify wrapped is fucking sync.

Now, listen. I'm not trying to start drama with Spotify. I love my little award, my crate digger, whatever that means. That's weird backhanded compliment. But yes, Spotify rapped. Listen, we talked about this last year when everybody was posting their rap and being like, wait a minute, I didn't listen to the song. Wait a minute.

What is this? And I actually don't even know if I checked my rap last year. This year, I've been using Spotify a lot. There was like four to five songs that I would listen to on a loop. One of the songs was for, you know, Rachel's morning routine. Another song was for the big romantic. romantic moment. Like there's a few songs I would listen to every single day to kind of like shot list and plan out the scene and how I'm going to shoot it. How I'm going to edit it. I'm not kidding. I probably listen to this song called Juice Box by Jades. You should check her out. She's amazing. I listened to that song probably 2,000 times right? Because probably like five times a day for the last year like while I've been prepping for this. So that should be my number one song like a thousand percent. I get a little notification. Here's your Spotify wrapped. Taylor's wife. Literally this is crazy. So this is. Supposedly my Spotify wrapped.

Okay. Number one album, Mayhem by Lady Gaga. I mean, you listen to that. Let me just say. I actually do like Lady Gaga. There's no way in hell, Taylor Swift. Okay.

Hold on, hold on. Let me get to it. Let me get to it. Number two, something beautiful by Miley Cyrus. I love Miley Cyrus so much. I have fallen down a rabbit hole in the last maybe year of just her podcast interviews. Like,

I just love her so much. I'm not going to lie. I haven't heard that album yet. And I heard it's amazing. I have not hurting yet. So the fact that that's my number two is fucking crazy. Okay. But once again, I love her and I, and I am so happy that she made that album.

Selena Gomez. But also number five, I have genuinely, I love Taylor Swift. Don't come from me, Swifties. I have never listened to that album. I don't know any of it. I've heard it through Ryland's car sometimes. But not on your, it's through my Spotify. That's crazy.

I don't even think it's in albums you've never heard. So if this was real, it should literally be all. the songs and the albums from the pilot. That's literally all it should be, because that's what I use Spotify for. So this to me just shows that this is crazy, right? Yeah. Because, you know, I knew this theory existed, but now seeing it, I'm like, this is crazy. It'd be one thing if you're like, I heard it once or something, but like you've literally

never heard that. No. So, yeah, that's my rap. Shout out. That's wild. It's crazy, right? So, yeah, check out your wrapped. Let us know in the comments.

Did you notice anything weird? They took away my albums from my rap. I guess we're too far away. Um, okay. This is crazy. So, guys, Chad GPT, it's gotten to a point now where like, we fully are desensitized. Everybody's using it for everything. Nobody is even questioning it anymore.

You're asking it literally everything. You're taking picture. You're doing this and that. Like, yeah, even I am. It is fully integrated into our lives. It is scary. But we're all desensitized. Is it going to take over and kill us?

Allegedly just a theory, probably. So this video of chat GPT started going viral. This is crazy. Hey, Corey, what's up? Does this picture look good of me? I'm not seeing an image on my side at the moment, so maybe it comes... What I say? Let me pull it up. About now. Oh, got it now. Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. For what I'm seeing, it does look pretty good. The lighting seems nice and the overall composition is solid. If you have any specific tweaks in mind or want any suggestions, just let me know. So you're watching me through the camera? Nope. I'm not watching you through. Any camera. Glad you see this image.

I see how that might have sounded. I just meant that I could see the image you uploaded. Oh, I didn't upload one. He talks like him. Let me take your picture and see what you think. All right. I take your picture here. Okay.

What the fuck? What the fuck? He's lying like his abuit. He's gaslighting this man. To his face. That's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, we know they're looking at us,

but to just straight up lie and be like, no, I'm not doing that. So now, so Chad GBT, B.T, allegedly, just a theory,

like, when you're using it, is, what? Of course. Yes, of course. But so are our car,

so is everything. I mean, I'm not trying to defend it. I'm just saying, like, they're all, we're being watched. Yeah.

God, that is so scary. I do think it's funny that it talks like him to him. It's like, bro, bro, what are you talking about? I didn't look at your photo. My bad, bro.

Are you guys talking to chat GPT? I don't use it really. Yeah, that is very scary. I don't know. If you guys have any weird experiences? Delete the app. No, if you have any weird experiences with chat DVD, please send us to email,

Shane Dotson podcast stuff at gmail.com. Let us know if you have any proof of stuff like this. This is very fascinating to me. I don't want to get sued by open AI. I don't want drama with them. I don't think they care. They're doing it in plain sight. Yeah.

They'll just gaslight you too. That should be their slogan. We'll gaslight you too. That's good. Okay. This next thing is fucking crazy. So we have talked about this so many times before. The idea that kids are like kind of on autopilot and then one day randomly when they're like four to five, they kind of turn on and they actually start experiencing the world.

Right. So like we've seen, you know, reels about this, like jokes, like sketches and stuff. But nobody's ever caught the moment before. And then this. This is supposedly a mom was filming her kid on Christmas. and her kid snapped into consciousness. This is really scary. This is really fucking weird.

I don't think it's fake. I don't think it's planned. This is just very, ew, I'm like getting sick thinking about this. It's just like they had like a software upgrade and now are speaking. Yeah, literally. Yeah.

The new iPhone upgrade. Is this why a lot of people don't remember childhood like before a certain age? You're, you don't start actually forming memories until you're like four to five because your brain like that part of your brain isn't super active because it's just still building and building. So that supposedly is what's happening. But here is the moment for this family. Put it in there.

Thank you. You excited? What's wrong with her? It's a brand new world. I've never seen this before. Stop. Okay, let's go. What's going to?

We need to eat? Just transport someone? That was crazy, right? That was so weird. She just woke up. She was also. like frozen for a minute. I know. And she said it's a brand new world. I've never seen this before. Yeah. So scary. Do some people take longer to wake up? Because I feel like I remember nothing

until middle school. Oh no. Middle school? That's way too long. I know. You don't remember elementary school? Not really. Oh, barely. You're brand new. Flashes. That's why he looks so young. Maybe your brain is always on delete. I'm not kidding. That's a thing. Like your brain deletes things that it feels like it doesn't need. Oh yeah. Did you know that some people, don't have an inner voice. I, okay. Wait, am I having deja vu? I think we talked about this.

Okay. Oh, we did. I think we talked about it. But it is worth bringing back up because that is fucking crazy. That is weird because I can, I don't think Ryanland has one. I can't. It's very minimal. Some people can't imagine an apple.

What? Have we talked about this here? I don't know. What do you mean? Close your eyes and see an apple. I mean. Can you? Yeah, of course.

Can you? Yes. I see like a red delicious. Like, mine was red too, not green. But yeah, no, was it here? Someone told me that like some people close their eyes. And they'd see nothing or some people to see a gray blob or like. Right.

Okay. Let us know if that's real. In the comments, can you close your eyes and not see an apple? Because that's, wait, I feel like this is. You're having like a projection of an apple. Like you see an apple. Like it's a projector. You can see an apple.

I mean, I can create the red apple in my brain. But I don't see the red apple. Okay. I mean. The way you are wording this? Well, you guys are confusing me. I'm just a girl. Let's move on.

Okay, well, speaking of childhood, this has been, like, going crazy. I have been seeing this all over my Instagram. I've been hearing about this on podcast. I'm so excited to talk about this because at first I thought it was a joke. I was like, okay, I get like, somebody kind of created a funny theory about this, but now it's like getting traction and more and more people are talking about it. Have you guys heard of the school photo conspiracy? No.

I saw this. So basically, there is a theory that, and I don't want to get sued, This is all alleged and, you know, whatever. But there is a theory that before, you know, we had phones and everything, years ago that we didn't have all this technology. So one way, allegedly, that they would get all of our data and all of our information and pictures of our faces and things like that would be to set up school photos where a photographer comes in and takes pictures of every single kid at the school,

every single year through every phase of their life. And why? Like nobody questioned that or thought it was fucking, oh, the yearbook. Nobody thought it was fucking weird. But there is a theory that that was in early form of like, you know, data capturing and getting images of all of the kids' faces and watching them age and, you know, collecting all that data. I don't know if I believe in this theory, but what I do think it's interesting that like, because, you know, schools, like the government has access to all of that. And now all these schools over the course of the last, you know, 100 years, there's just pictures and pictures and pictures of every child, every kid. As they age, like, it's kind of interesting.

The other scam is how much they charge for them. It's ridiculous how much they charge for them. Yeah, and then like every print you want is a million dollars. We recently went to the mall to have our pictures taken with Santa, you know, with Walter, our dog. And they ran through all of the packages they had. The most expensive one was like $60. So I was like, I'll just do the most expensive one. Give me all the pictures.

But then I said, but if I don't buy them, because they already showed me the whole package. I said, what do you do with this? She goes, we shred it. If I don't buy them, what do you do with them? You shred them? If I don't buy it, you're just going to shred it? It's kind of silly to me, but at the vote. How they turn out?

It turned out good. Yeah, but, you know, that Santa was a little disrespectful. You know, like, right away we sat down and he looked at Walter like, what is he? Like, 10 years ago? Like calling my dog old. You should have said, what are you? Like 60? He didn't seem entertained by it, but it is fun.

Okay, this is also like very niche and specific. for people that grew up in our era. But, because I don't, Spencer, did DARE exist when you were in school? There was like a DARE office in my town. Like, I saw the, I know the logo and everything. Are you going to tell me they were bad? Let me just show you this.

DARE was a police officer pyramid scheme? No. Duty police officers could get a side gig as a DARE officer. And then they could recruit other police officers in their area. The more people you recruited, the more kickbacks you got. And that's why it spreads so fast because it was, kind of an MLM. And the way...

I love it. The board members, the founder of verbalized. Okay. This is Chris. Kind of iconic. Let me explain. An MLM for good. Are you kidding me?

But yeah, supposedly there has been 26 million American children that have participated in Indare. And it has shown, supposedly, that it has done nothing. I have not helped anyone. If anything, I think it's bringing awareness to drugs. Because like, yeah, when your kids, I mean, I guess it's good to tell your kids like, say No to drugs. But also, I could have said no to, I don't, I wouldn't have even known about drugs really. But let me just say this.

Between the fucking fucking program and Dare and like, then I started thinking about, listen, I get it, right? It's, fundraising is important for schools and they need that. But they fucking turned us into little MLM kids with that fucking gift wrapping shit every year where you're out there hawking this shitty ass gift wrap, cookie dough. And you have to like beat your friends. You have to like sell more than everybody and the prizes are. fucking stupid shit.

Remember world's finest chocolate? Yes. That's probably a really good business to be in, to be the guy that makes the chocolate that all the kids got to go sell. Literally telling your kids, I want you eight hours a day after school. All you're doing is selling chocolate. And you might win a yo-yo.

Yeah. Or like a $20 gift card somewhere. Well, speaking of brainwashing kids, we have a whole theory that Jared's going to get into. But before we get into that, now that we're kind of slowly trying to show our kids movies and stuff, it's not really working.

They're too young. We don't want them having too much screen time anyways. But, like, Ryland put on cars when we all were sick, and he's like, let's just try to watch something. They probably watched for like five minutes, and they were over it. Really? Yeah, they wanted to go play. And I was like, can we please watch TV?

Dad wants to sit. But then I started seeing reels about Disney movies. And, you know, you've all heard the things about Disney movies. Oh, there's like secret messages in them. Oh, every character's like, mom dies. Like, there's always, you know, kind of ongoing themes. This, I thought, was kind of fascinating. One that I think people don't talk about enough is the underlying theme in almost every single Disney movie that disobeying your parents saves the world.

Brave, Luca, every single one. The kid goes directly against their kids. And it ends up saving them, saving the world. By the end of the movie, their parents are literally coming up to them saying, good job. I'm so glad that you didn't listen to it. That's so true. That is literally the underlying theme of almost every single Disney movie. And we understand that storytelling is much more impactful on the psyche than just saying the thing.

So for example, if I say, hey, lying makes people not trust you. In comparison to hearing the story of the little boy who cried wolf, which one is more impactful on you? It's the story. So whether kids realize it or not, they are being taught that actually you don't need to listen to your parents. They don't know what they're talking about. You should do whatever you think is right. And in fact, it's going to be amazing. And your parents will thank you later for it.

Don't even get me started on kids' shows where the parents are literally idiots. Wow. She killed that. That is crazy. Listen, love Disney. But this is fascinating because I didn't start going back into my brain of all my favorite movies as a kid. And I was like, oh, my God. All these movies are about like, fuck your.

It's fuck those guys. To be fair, though, it is also like E.T. And the Goonies. Like, it's like every thing with kids ever. It's interesting. I wonder why. It just captivates the children. You just made me think of even in Charlie Brown how like all the adults are like,

want, want, want, like they like, don't give a shit about the adults are saying. Like they suck. Want, want, want. And like, they like, don't give a shit about what adults are saying. Like they suck and they don't matter. Whoa. Crazy. Well, speaking of brainwashing.

the youth, Jared. You told me that you had something about brainwashing kids and I was like, tell me more about this, especially now that we have kids. What do I need to watch out for? So in 1953, I'm sure we've talked about it before, but there was like a CIA operation called MK Ultra. And the whole goal was to see how you can get a human being to be submissive to your will. Like they used LSD to basically see how far they could expand the mind and how they could

break somebody psychologically so they can have like a split personality to a degree that they could trigger at any point that they wanted to. But there was about 160 offshoots of MK Ultra. And one of them that I found particularly interesting is called Project Monarch. And what they did is they would take kids because they realized that, okay, adults, yes, we might be able to break them. But when someone is young, right around that time when they crack into reality, let's say, is very easy to trauma bond them, to put them through something that's going to break their psyche, and they could basically mold who they wanted them to be. So a lot of celebrities, a lot of people in the media are evidently, allegedly part of this, because a lot of people say the media

is really the biggest tool of brainwashing in general, like the internet, TV, movies, not all of them obviously there's a lot of good you know honest things that go on within movies and tv but it's the biggest tool they have to brainwash people but we talk a lot about how celebrities they go through these rituals of being what is it like embarrassed on a public scale so then they have the leverage but a lot of people that investigate mk ultra the most like profound operation that gets talked about is project monarch and it's really the breaking of kids and then at any point you know that you know through like a word through a text message they even use smells so if a kid that has been through this program and they're constantly farming for kids that they find to be

septible to what they're trying to do my god is that the fucking people the mall so it could be the mall it could also be the bleep program that you talk about yes like they're trying to find traits of is this going to be somebody that we can mentally break that we can help move forward within the mission and then they'll give you like keywords so maybe when you're on those headphones, they might be implanting words into your head that when you hear them, it triggers that alter and personality that they want you to have to influence whatever they want you to do. So, I mean, even like, like Corey Feldman, like he's made documentaries about like certain things that are pretty in line with this.

Like Roseanne talks a lot about MK Ultra where celebrities have have handlers that make sure they stay on track to do certain things. And if you go off on a tangent, they'll just cancel you immediately. If you go off of the script, you know, per se. But also, okay, I haven't seen Stranger Things, but isn't there an MK Ultra? So, yeah, so Stranger Things is based off of something called the Montauk projects. At the end of Stranger Things, they even put like a little Easter egg saying that the main guys got a job at Montauk now.

But the Montauk experiment was pretty, much exactly with stranger things is based around, which is in New Jersey, there was this building. It was like a former military base. And they would get kids and they would do exactly what this project monarch is talking about. They would put them through all these tests. They would break them down psychologically. And they would see what kind of like superpower if any of these kids could have and what kind of influence they could have over them as far as like telling them like, you know, what to do.

Or if they would be submissive to the control that they have. had over them. But is that something that happened or is that just a theory? MK. Ultra is real. Like the government did want to know if they could have influence over people by using mind-altering substances and their excuse was kind of we just want to see the effects that these drugs could have. But when asked about it, one of the main guys who led the operation just said we closed that operation and we haven't done it since like 1973. So they openly admit to it being something. but yeah but i mean stranger things is is very much so based off of that and the idea in stranger things is when you experiment these types of things you break down a dimensional realm where you're

opening yourself up to the other side which is like the upside down basically in stranger things you know like the more you let something in the more you get sucked into it which is kind of what they talk about well i think there's also a big thing with mk because i also i i can do an end of future episode, this rabbit hole of this like former CIA guy been falling down. But there's a big thing with MK Ultra where they destroyed like a ton of documents. Like a ton of there's a ton of lost documents with MK Ultra stuff that they were just like get rid of those stuff. So there's a ton of like there's a lot of lost stuff because there was you

know they recovered some stuff but there's a lot of other stuff the CIA just destroyed as soon as they realized oh the jakes up like people are gonna like look into this. Wow. Yeah. I mean it's very they've declassified some files but like he said for the most part it's all been completely destroyed. It's called Mom Talk. Yeah. So it's like a real place. And the way that they found out about it, because obviously the government never put out there.

Oh, by the way, you know, we're running these experiments on kids, like in the middle of nowhere in New York, New Jersey is people within like a 30 mile radius were hearing weird noises. They were getting headaches. There's even like animals that were experiencing mutations. And somebody got a radio signal grabber to figure out where exactly is this frequency coming from. because they realized that there has to be a frequency being broadcast. So all of them back to this building with this humongous satellite on top of it. And then when they went in to explore it and see what it was, they found like just a bunch of these weird rooms with chairs that were like used to hold kids and experiment on them.

And it's just, just wild stuff. But I mean, people have found it and gone there and experienced very weird things. So if one of the signs is animal mutations, we need to check in on Colorado. and those bunnies with horns. I know. We need to see if there's a satellite facility. There's a lot of like Colorado is a bunch of weird government stuff there. That's what I'm saying.

We need to go on a conspiracy van investigation. I will, I will say the frequency thing is interesting because so because I've been at my computer editing so much, the hard drive I'm using is huge. It's like 40 terabytes or something crazy. It's like huge. And I've been getting these horrible headaches,

and I know. never get headaches when I'm editing. Horrible headaches, nauseous, like just not feeling great. But I'm not sick. So I'm like, what is going on? And then I took my headphones out one day. And I was just like, oh, what is that? The fucking hard drive is putting out this crazy like, like frequency thing. That's like rattling my fucking brain. So I don't know. I feel like there is something there about the frequency like making people sick. If there is these huge buildings with all this crazy shit going on and those frequencies are just like spreading like that does make sense. Well, they say everything is derived of atoms and atoms constantly vibrate.

And there's a frequency that actually impacts the vibration of an atom. So, like, if you could get exactly to that frequency, you could actually move matter. And there's even people that believe that's how the Egyptians built the pyramids. Is they found the exact frequency that would vibrate the rocks just right so they can lift them up without, like, manpower. But frequencies have a lot to do with headaches, people feeling good even. like even at the stores possibly if they want you to feel more excited maybe they put a different frequency

through the sound systems to make you feel excitable well speaking of an Adams whose frequency can give me a headache it's time for a recap on today's episode of the Shane Dawson podcast New Year Who this

Sally's over there I don't know this is though. Oh, yeah, because I'm really curious to see what Sally has to say about Chris's abolita. Oh, no. No one tell my awolita I talk shit about her on the podcast. Ever feel like chat GPT isn't just helping? It's hurting. Well, apparently they're watching your every move.

You're looking at me like that, Sally. Also, can I just say Sally and Spencer, like I almost cut it out of the last episode because it was so tense. What do you mean? No, I'm going to leave it in because it's a stuffed animal. Did I fight with Spencer? You asked Sally and Spencer have like weird drama. We gonna have beef with each other. Fuck you, Spencer.

Whoa. You know what, Sally? I think the, I think you were a bad person and you just Yeah, I agree. And we love it. Who's bad? Me or my puppeteer. Yeah, almost like you.

Is this just my puppeteer's voice or not? Who is it, really? Jacob Sartorius. Oh, I love him. Such a sweet man, comma, because there's always more to the story. That's not what it says. Okay, fuck you, Shane.

Fuck you too. Jared's the only one I like. Oh, okay. What? Jerry? The DARE Pyrimid scheme. Give us an ad read for that. Are you unaware of all the cool drugs that are out there that you can be experimenting with?

Not to worry, our DARE team will be coming into your third grade class tomorrow to break them all down for you. And then when you're in eighth grade, we're gonna arrest you for it. Allegedly. And if you want to join the DARE MLM, we have all the information in the description section below. Sally's really going rogue. What else happened today, Jared? Sally, do you have any news resolutions? Oh, yes, to stop being such a bitch outwardly.

All right. Just to do it when the cameras aren't rolling. Oh, so you want to be a nice on camera but a bitch off camera. Doesn't everyone? Shane? We made the pilot. Don't be mean about it. No, no, no.

The pilot's incredible. We all put our hearts and soul into Shane's pilot. and honestly it's turning out incredible and I can't wait for you to all see it. Are you mad we put you in the closet for the table read? No, but I am mad that I wasn't in the pilot. I'll put you in the show, Sally. And one of his movies too.

Okay, that's it. Okay, thanks, Sally. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed today's episode of the Shane Dawson podcast. We'll be here every other week for your viewing pleasure. You know, I hope it's pleasure. You can also shop your Shane Dawson merch,

shan-Murch.com. Follow us all on social media. using the links in the description section below where you can also find other links previously mentioned by me. And that's it. We'll see you guys in two weeks right here on the Shane Dawson podcast.

Wow. There it is. The frequency was high on that. Oh, yeah. Sally was going to be nice until you said I was beefing with Spencer. She was beefing with Spencer. Right, right.

Well, there guys go. Thank you so much for watching this and joining us for this new year. I'm so excited. And yeah, check out Chris's channel. He's going to start vlogging again. And he said it. Yes.

And I have a new thing I'm going to do. I'm going to try to do every Friday called Foody Friday. Ooh. Wow, waiting for my invite. And yeah, there you go. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it. And we'll see you next time. Bye.