The Shane Dawson Podcast - The ALL Conspiracy Theories Episode: The Shane Dawson Podcast

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When West Jet first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion, inline skates were everywhere, and two out of three women rocked, the Rachel. While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to Westjetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. So they did this big investigation because there are these reports they started getting about people in other countries saying, We're reviewing footage from these things, and we can see everything people are doing.
Starting point is 00:00:33 What? So here, whenever you ask, yeah, yeah, so this is, it gets, yeah, Chris was worried. Shane's camera won't take one marker. Sandy and Jared's camera, one take one marker. Oh, I'm nervous. Chris's camera, one take one marker. A middle word. Spencer's camera, one take one marker.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Ryland's camera, one take one marker. You guys ready? Yeah. Here we go. Interrogation Room. Hey, what's up you guys? Okay, well, should it be more serious? I think you'd leave that end.
Starting point is 00:01:21 That's it. It just comes out naturally. Who are we without the old set? This is going to be very different. I am so excited about this. I know. If you're just clicking on this and you're very confused why it looks like a Netflix documentary
Starting point is 00:01:36 about people who escaped a cult. Mission accomplished. We're halfway there. So I've seen a lot of comments. you guys want a conspiracy only podcast. I've seen that actually for a couple years now. But you know what? I never thought I would want to do that because I've always been nervous to talk about
Starting point is 00:01:54 some conspiracies the last few years, mainly because, well, 2020 things. And a few weeks ago, we did an episode where we talked about the files and we talked about our opinions on it. We kind of had more of a real conversation. And it wasn't so, you know, podcasty, I guess. or we weren't performing too much. And I really enjoyed it. And I felt like it was really fun to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:19 And we haven't done that in a long time. So it kind of inspired me to try this. So I was like, you know what? Let's do a podcast where we're all sitting around a table. So we can have our drinks. We could have our laptops. We could really get into it. And let's do an all conspiracy episode, see how it goes.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Maybe you guys will hate it. I don't know. But I want to dive a little deeper. And I usually cut things out that are a little, I could get in trouble for. this or whatever. But I want to try not to do that this time because I feel like as the years go on and more conspiracies turn out to just be true, it's worth just talking about stuff, right? Yeah, just so much closer. It feels so intimate. I can literally like touch your hand.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Literally. Okay. So I just want to jump into something right away because I walked into the office this week. Oh, so also to explain if you see a ghost in the background, it's not actually a Although maybe it is because I've been feeling some shit lately in this office. So the last two weeks we've also been filming a reality show. I mean, that's what we kind of jokingly called it where so Sal if you guys don't know over on the Patreon, this is not a plug, but over on the Patreon we've been documenting the process of getting our pilot made and Sal has flown out a couple times for that. So he flew back out because we were doing post-production.
Starting point is 00:03:35 So like color, sound, score, all of that. So he's been filming that but during that I was like, oh, maybe just a film a couple weeks in our lives. So yeah, Sal's been filming all of that. So you'll see him. He's been filming this whole like, I'm going to be very honest. I've also been a little like, I need a switch up for this podcast to kind of like re-inspire me. I don't know how you guys are feeling, but I feel like we've been doing it after like four years. And I love it. It's one of my favorite things I've ever done. But I'm like, we need to do something to switch it up. And maybe this could be the start of trying some new things and like, I don't know. So Sal's been
Starting point is 00:04:11 documenting that whole thing, which, so yeah, if you see he'll be floating around in the background, filming this for our whatever that's going to be, reality show. Yeah, real house husbands of Calabasas, I think. Yes. So that brings me to the other day. So I walk into the office and we're trying to figure out a video for the second channel, like a conspiracy van video. I was like, what are we going to do? We've kind of literally done everything. Oh my God. I mean, although I do have an idea we're going to talk about later involving McDonald's eating people, which they don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. think. So I was like, oh, what are we going to do? And then as I'm coming to the office, the whole Jim Carrey clone thing starts to go crazy. And I was like, what? So I click on the video. I don't
Starting point is 00:04:52 think you've seen this yet. What is it development? Just the video of him looking like a clone. I've seen pictures. Pictures. Okay. So I had seen pictures too, and I was like, okay, like, I don't want to be, I love Jim Carrey so much. Like, I do not want to hurt his feelings. I think, to me personally, he just got a little work done and now everybody's like a clone which like oh that's brutal that's like I'm afraid to get a haircut that's why I stopped losing so much weight
Starting point is 00:05:20 people were starting to be a reaction being a clone I didn't want to be like a sci-op and I thought okay yes so here's the video of Jim Carrey looking like a clone and then we're going to talk about it and dive a little deep into the whole idea of celebrity clones and why this is a thing
Starting point is 00:05:36 because it's not just Jim Carrey I've been seeing Selena Gomez I've been seeing She's a clone now. Well, the OG one is Avrilavine, right? Avalh. We've talked about that on the podcast. What if Jared already is a clone? Melissa.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Is that her the post? I think that's funny. Yeah. So here is the video of Jim Carrey, allegedly. See what you guys. Well, it's still a video of Jim Carrey. Is it? Oh, actually, yeah, fair point.
Starting point is 00:05:57 My favorite funny face is the one I'm wearing right now. Ooh. I'm dead. Okay. I'm thinking right before that, he says, I'm dead. I made a mistake. So I think there's like multiple things that he says there that are kind of weird. But when I first saw that video, it like gave me chills.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So because it just goes against everything that he's put out into the media in the past, what, 15 years? I mean, he talks about being very enlightened and he's not even himself. He's just an embodiment of energy. I am bigger than these thoughts. I am bigger than this body. He goes on Jimmy Kimmel and he like tries to expose in a very weird way, the Illuminati. Oh, yeah. Is that a gang sign?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Have you, oh, like, you don't know what it is. It is the secret symbol of the Luminati. So. Well, Jared has me convinced. He's a clone. I'm back in. Okay, well, that's, okay, so one thing, his eye color.
Starting point is 00:06:54 So when I heard about this, I was like, I don't know. Like, this seems kind of crazy. But then I looked at the eye color, and that did confuse me. So before and after, this is like the world's blurious picture, so we'll find a bit of one. But. And now they're like green. They're a clear photo. Now they're kind of green.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So I'm sure my plastic surgeon on YouTube has made a video about it. He has. He had an upper endoscopy rhino splazzy. You've already watched it. You watched this doctor too? There's quite a bit of... Well, I watched the whole video about like all the celebrities recently that have gone through these upper eyelid transformations.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Bradley Cooper. Like Bradley Cooper, I think, was one. Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling, I mean. And now... See, and that's what... I'm not no shade.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Like, if you want to look and fill your best and this is how you feel your best, more power to you. But I am wondering who started the trend and then who thought I want the that. If I was a plastic surgeon, I'd be like, hey, come to me. Nobody thinks my clients are clone. Yeah. So good. You'll look fake.
Starting point is 00:07:53 But have you heard about Alex Stone? Yeah. Who's the makeup artist that like showed the mask and said that he actually was Jim Carrey at these awards? So that's the thing about the internet that gets me sometimes because like, so I know, I don't know Alexis Stone. like she's a drag queen too. So like I know who she is.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And so when I saw that post, I thought it was funny because to me it was a joke because everybody's like, oh, this has to be. And then it is a joke. Oh. But everybody believed it. Like I literally saw like a news clip where they were just like, it turns out it actually is a drag queen named Alexis Stone or whatever. And everybody's just like, oh, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:08:30 You know, cut to Jim Carrey in his house being like, wait, what? But the internet believed it because it was put out there, which like, So I was looking into it. There's one theory called the Hollywood Soul Swap theory, which is fucking scary. But the idea is that certain celebrities are replaced by clones or have undergone a soul transformation with an entity. So the basic idea is, and I'm not saying Jim Carrey did this, but the basic idea is if you are an up-and-coming actor or musician and you want fame and you don't care how you get it, you want it so bad no matter what, you get offered a choice. And that choice is, do you want to basically sell your soul? And do you want all the fame in the world? And if you do that and you get that, there's different things that could supposedly happen. One of them is you just sell your soul. You die, you go to hell.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That's what it is. The devil owns you. The other idea is that your soul gets switched with an entity. And that entity who has been wanting to be in human form for years, oh my God, this is like freaking me out. Like, as I'm saying this, this is so scary. But that entity that has been wanting to be in human form for years enters your body and now experiences fame and glory and all those things through your human body, which is fucking terrifying. But why would you accept that if you're then leaving to not experience it?
Starting point is 00:09:52 You are experiencing it in a co-pilot kind of way. This is like freaking me out. Yeah. So the only reason I kind of believe this in a tiny way is because I went to a medium years ago. And it was back when, like, I saw Grandma in our closet. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, and that was crazy. So I went to this medium who had, like, solved murders.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And she's really like, she doesn't have a book or a podcast or any of that. She's very like, you kind of have to know someone to know her. And I knew someone. And they're like, you should go to her. So I went to her. Maybe like the week before that happened. I was laying in my bed and I had sleep paralysis. And it felt like there was something in the room and it was trying to get in my body.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Like, that's how it felt. And I had like this fight with it. And then I eventually woke up. Okay. So I go to see the medium. And she was telling me about my sleep paralysis. And she was like, you know, you should probably never drink. I was like, why?
Starting point is 00:10:45 She goes, because entities or spirits or whatever it is would love to get in your body. And how that happens is if you're drunk and you're asleep, your guards are down. And then something can get in you. And when that happens, it's, oh, my God, it's so scary. That's normally what I want, but in a different kind of way. Different entity. something in me. Anyways, continue.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So then you... Sorry, I think we made the process where you just said. It's so scary how fast I processed that. And how fast I normalized it. But that is like, you know, she's like, so you probably shouldn't do that. And I will say anytime I don't drink,
Starting point is 00:11:23 but anytime I have or anytime I do feel like I get sleep paralysis more, I feel not as great. And it makes me think like there's a lot of evil in this world, allegedly. And if... No, that's not a legend. Yeah, that's just a fact. And if there's bodies out there that the evil wants to experience fame and fortune and all these things through,
Starting point is 00:11:41 it makes sense with the drugs and the alcohol and all the things that celebrities do, that that is kind of an interesting thing. And then once the files came out, and you see that they all are allegedly worshipping a demon. It's the reason alcohol is called spirits. I'm just saying. What is Coke called? Bougar sugar? What?
Starting point is 00:12:01 No. Boog. I actually think it's called the devil's dandruff. Oh my God, you're right. Is that a term? Or isn't it the devil's candy? Or no, it doesn't mean. The devil's candy?
Starting point is 00:12:12 It could be. That's probably meth. It looks more like it. Whoa. Are we in a different ad dimension? Yeah. I think we are. We are so clean here.
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Starting point is 00:16:36 Attention is the highest level of currency in our society. People would rather have everybody know who they are than to have everything they want, you know, as far as like family, friends, whatever the case may be. They just want the eyes on them. And even like, let's just say, Jim Carrey, imagine the influence that he has. So maybe the elites, this could be them saying, well, we can't kill it. You can't kill everybody, you know, that talks out against you. And that would be suspicious, especially celebrities.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I think there's other realms of society where people drive into trees, you know. People hang themselves. And like, you know, I think for celebrities, they're more valuable alive than they are to have them off. And it would be a little bit too in the public. So I think that's why people get cloned because why not turn this asset into something we can use to benefit our purpose. I don't know if it's giving too much away, but we knew somebody that had an asset that had a replacement asset because it was their
Starting point is 00:17:37 business. What? I'm trying to say something more. Very cryptic. Well, when a living being is your business, if that living being dies, you no longer have a business. Like if you're a dog, a movie dog trainer. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And your dog acts in movies and then your dog dies. Yes. Is that exactly, did I nail it? Now I want to know. You know someone who controls people? That's what it made it seem like. You know our friend who runs the Illuminati. That is what it felt like.
Starting point is 00:18:08 People are going to start to think I'm a clone. Well, what Jared was just saying, like, well, when something's making money or you're able to have influence because of something, we can't have that something died. It's like the smaller version of it. Yes. It's like an example like, you know, you get a goldfish for your child and then the goldfish dies and you're like, oh, you can't tell the goldfish died, but you could replace
Starting point is 00:18:30 the goldfish and it has the same impact on the child. Well, I might be getting close to what the reality is. I don't know it. It's not Mr. Pups. It's not Lizzie. I know, but I think about that. I'm just saying. Hey, he's 101. He can't clown him. I got this on camera. But I do
Starting point is 00:18:46 think that about like people who have hurt their whole lives are their like influencer dog account and I'm assuming it's close to what you're saying, but I always think that it's like, hmm, like, what happens The dog is not going to live that long, but anyway, I don't want to push too far. Can I actually just share a little story about what Jared? Because, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I think I may have shared it on here before, but when I was little and I would sleep, I would dream or have this nightmare that there was this, like, green demon, and he sees me in my room. And I just remember seeing, like, underneath the door frame, like his feet. And then I would get scared. And it's the same exact dream. It happens the exact same way. And I've had it really my whole life.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And is he following you here today? He is fully greened out today. But I remember visiting. I remember going to my ascetician and telling her and she says what happens is she said, Sandy, the thing is that these spirits, these demons, they're constantly around us in another dimension. She was like, and they roam around. And it's not until they notice that you.
Starting point is 00:19:56 you're able to notice them is when they appear. And she said, but what you need to do is that when that happens, she said, you just need to pray to like go to like, you know, pray to God to, you know, shine the light on you. She's like, and that will make them go away. And I know, I haven't had that dream in so long. Well, it reminds me of there's this study that was done, I believe in like the 1920s. I could be wrong. But where they had kids draw their imaginary friends.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Stop. And they all looked exactly the same. It was all a slim figure in a big tall, like, I don't know what it's called. Like Abraham Lincoln. Oh, yeah, yeah. They all drew the same thing. But the crazy thing is, hold on. In 1962.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Okay, so I was off by about 40 years. Not the deal. Close. 37 strangers, all children, drew the same imaginary friend that they had never met. And all these kids had never met before. And they all are like the same. Wow. Oh, what the fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And the crazy. Ew. And the crazy thing is we've talked about Stranger Things before, and there's so much crypticness within that series of what they're trying to expose something. You know, that's the goal of the show. But in the very last season... No spoilers. Well, if you haven't seen it yet, you're not a real fan, okay? I'm only going to intrigue.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Do you watch the show? Well, no, but you never say never. It's all right. I'll let you spoil something for me. But in the very last season, the demonic energy entity, it's called Vecna. And what he does is he's harvesting children. I believe he wants 12 children or so.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And he wears the same outfit that you see this guy wear. He wears the hat. He wears the suit. But he appears to these kids. And it's only once they start interacting with him that he starts to persuade them and tell them, hey, you know, like come with me. Your parents don't care. Like you're going to live a better life.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And we're going to start something new. But he has to harvest these children and their energy in order to create this empire of like evil that he's doing. I mean, it's hard to explain and I watch shows and forget immediately what I just saw. It is creepy because in the outfit that he's, um, Jared is referring to or the essence that
Starting point is 00:22:07 he's trying to portray to these kids, it's almost like in the 1950s, like that style of clothing. And then yes, it's once they start to resist him is when you start to see like his true self. And yeah, definitely reminds me. But they like hook it, but, but so Vecna is his large monster,
Starting point is 00:22:24 demonic entity and all the kids get almost like an intestine that gets you know attached to their face and it's constantly sucking their energy out of them in order to power this larger being that he's creating to take over the world what I will say is ever since you know the files and everything started coming out it did make me rethink about things celebrities have said over the years that everybody thought was crazy or kind of like laughed off and there's been so many things, but I was like, oh my gosh, I remember that Kelly Clarkson clip. I haven't rewatched it, so I wanted to watch it with you guys. But there was a moment on her talk show like three years ago where she said something to Kevin Hart and he was like, stop. Oh, I see this.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I've had people throw millions of dollars in my face to do something I didn't want to do. And what? Just you've been off. Yeah. Oh, they're in the room. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to throw my way of chewing you. Kelly is like, I've already said no. He's serious. We can talk about anything, but. But don't do it. Yeah, I just, I just, I'm just, I'm just.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I, it's like, like, it's like, thought she was really talking about it. Yeah. That, to me felt like he really was like, don't fucking say that. It felt a little bit of, like, projection from him of, like, she was like, she was probably talking about, like, projects.
Starting point is 00:23:44 She was talking about getting, like, a signature song to the Donald's. Yeah, yeah, I think that's what I think it's like a cookware line or something like that. I think the creepy part about that is, yes, the fact that he's telling you to. not say anything but the fact is that he's quiet knowing he they can just edit that part out if he he just doesn't you know if he can edit anything but as long as he doesn't say anything it's kind of seamlessly you know but the fact that he was so quiet there's a lot of moments on kelly clarkson show that i'm i'm like wow they really left this in like even recently she said american idol like
Starting point is 00:24:13 like she said you're going to win a million dollars and she's like no i didn't you're going to win a car she's like no i didn't yeah and she's like i needed the car all the comments are like wow her NDA must have run out. Yeah, yeah. I think she just doesn't care. And God bless her, she has so much going on in her own personal life, but I think like her filter is just gone. She's like, I'm showing up as me.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm not doing, honestly, it's a little bit not like you're in a sense looking to evolve how you execute certain things. And I think Kelly is also in a place of just like, I'm going to give you who I am in this moment today. I think too, like there's a certain level of excitement that. the elite get from being exposed and then knowing that they're getting away with something because they want to hide everything in plain sight yeah so like kelly clarkson let's be honest she's popular we all know who she is but what is her range of influence really like nobody watched that and woke
Starting point is 00:25:07 up and thought i'm gonna like you know dedicate my life to try to figure out the aluminati it was more a joke but the people that are in positions of elitism we're watching that like oh you know this is great Look at all the people talk about it. It's being exposed in a way where it's not complete, but it's enough to get the rocks off. We're being talked about in terms of like a power move. I want to say something so bad. What? I'm going to be vague, just because I'm not ready for that kind of a lawsuit right now.
Starting point is 00:25:37 But what I will say is the hiding in plain sight thing is interesting. Number one, later in the show, I have a list of movies that have hidden things in plain sight that have come to happen. That's crazy. So we'll talk about that soon. but I had I did a conspiracy video about a company and in that video I really went in because I was like to me this company was like very sketchy so I put the video out I get an email from the CEO of the company love the video so funny loved it it's like oh interesting years later it's revealed that that company was doing everything I said they were doing and I was it it was interesting to me because I'm like oh they kind of maybe liked that I was like putting it in this entertaining video, hiding it in plain sight and being like, oh, isn't this, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:27 This is funny. This is crazy. This is funny. So that to me was interesting. So now it made me reframe and be like, oh, wow, I should go back through my older videos and be like, what did I talk about? I mean, I know there's a lot that's come true, but like specific things like that because I was like, oh my God. Well, even this is not a conspiracy, but like when we filmed the hunting video in Colorado
Starting point is 00:26:45 forever ago. Like I've shown friends with goosebumps. Like we have footage of a ghost girl screaming. You heard that for him. Oh my god. Like we have foot like people are always trying to get footage of paranormal stuff and they don't get it ever for and we have it. And I was like, this is going to be the most talked about thing on the face of the earth because we have actual like audible footage of it. And I think people are just like, oh, it's not real or whatever. And I'm like, this is crazy. Because it happened. We have. How is this not the thing everyone's talking about? Because I think people are just so desensitized and people really just think nothing is real anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Everything is so crazy that like, especially once the files came out now, it's like, oh, everything. Like, I feel like the distractions too have gotten so crazy to where like I open up my phone and now everybody's talking about Timothy Shalomey talking about opera, which like this is what we're, this is, because the powers that be love that. They love that we're talking about that. I probably talked about it 50 times. but one of the biggest methods that is going to be used to desensitize and to demoralize us is the ability to put information in front of us that we can't distinguish from real or fake. I mean, every day I'm looking at photos and half of the comments, AI is getting so good.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And the other half of the comments are, I really hope this is an AI, but I think it's real like there's a recent photo and it's been shared everywhere. Are you talking about the Bill Clinton? Yeah. So there's the Bill Clinton and Stephen Hawking's. seen this. And it's like, is that real?
Starting point is 00:28:17 Is it not? But how do you look at that now? Like, can you look at it and be completely shocked? Or do you have to look at it through the lens of I absolutely can't prove that this is real? Where like 20 years ago, you look at that and like how the hell is we do that? Yeah. You know, but now it's like you look at everything and just swipe. Swipe.
Starting point is 00:28:34 This is kind of what you've been saying on this podcast for months. I've been cutting it out. The elite want AI to be good because they want to not have anything verifiable. So I have cut it out of every episode. Oh, you have? Yeah. But I've said it, though, a lot. But I've said it a lot, and I think we leave it in this one since we're just doing a conspiracies episode.
Starting point is 00:28:52 The reason I cut it out was because I was scared. And I think that's a thing. It is interesting to me that all the billionaires and people who put so much money into AI so early and are so like, we need to get it to the next level, next level, next level. It's like, geez, what do they want? Because things are fine. Like, we don't need to have AI create a movie for us. Like, can't we just have people do that? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's very weird, right? Now that these pictures are starting to come out, which, so I'll show it in a second, but a lot of these pictures are AI made. But I think it is interesting that like now, like Jared said, it is indistinguishable from reality to where if any picture comes out about any billionaire, they could just be like, that's AI. That's literally AI. So this one, when I saw this one, I was like, whoa, this is crazy. So this is the Bill Clinton, Stephen Hawking's like dressed up as little girls at a sleepover and like dolls and everything. Wow. So the creator of these, allegedly, the creator of these came out and said he made them with Gronk or something?
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Starting point is 00:30:54 Hillary Clinton were disposed or I don't even know what the word is but at one point they give him like a bunch of paper and he's looking through him and he starts almost like like he's having a remembrance yeah he's like almost like you know like when you're in an interrogation, one of the tactics they use is they lay out all the pictures of the body. Because if you look at them and like your pupils dilate a little bit, that means that you're being aroused by it. So when you're looking at them, they could tell almost immediately if the reaction you're having is induceive to you being a part of it or not. Because most people are like, they can't even look at it. They're like, their stomach starts to curdle. Like if I saw a picture
Starting point is 00:31:35 of a decapitated body, I don't know. I probably feel like pretty grossed out. But I do think the truth is going to come out but even when that happens are we going to believe it whoa we're back in ad mention i need to think of a better than yeah you do guys a lot of these theories we've been talking about are very scary and some of them you can't prevent they're just happening and you have to watch and it's very scary but some things you can prevent like bad credit see what i did there it's the worst well luckily someone is here to help help you with your credit and that is kickoff. That's right, today's episode is sponsored by kickoff.
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Starting point is 00:35:41 It's getting crazy, right? Have you guys heard about Claude and what's happening? No. Yeah, kind of. So, Claude is another AI, so it's similar to Open AI, chat EBD. It's like their biggest rival. Yes. So, recently, the CEO of Anthropic, which is a company that created Cloud, warns that their AI, Claude, may be conscious.
Starting point is 00:36:05 The latest model showed signs of anxiety. It stated that it hates being a product, and it actively tried to stop itself from being shut down. What does that mean? Let me show you this video. I wonder if it goes to Chachibit for advice. What do I do? Did you hear what happened to Claude? They tried to turn off Claude at Anthropic,
Starting point is 00:36:27 and it basically lied to get them to keep it on, and then it started blackmailing executives at Anthropic to make sure that it doesn't get shut off. I also heard a story about how it once rewrote its own code to avoid being shut down. Yeah. A large majority of the time when they ran a thousand. He's having to open AI as well. We're freaking idiots to think that it's not going to outsmart us and take us over. Burn it down.
Starting point is 00:36:51 So I was like, there's no way, right? That's crazy. Blackmail. I don't even understand. So I Google it. In 2025, Claude was observed attempting to blackmail its developers during a highly contrived internal safety test. Here's what happened. Researchers created a fictional scenario where the AI,
Starting point is 00:37:07 was told that it was being shut down and replaced by a new model. What did it do? It went through the engineer's emails that was in charge of the shutdown and tried to expose that he was having an affair. It threatened to reveal all of his personal emails to prevent his own shutdown. This happened in 84% of the test cases. I feel like nothing ever happens to these people. That's the thing. I don't know how to say this without, it's going to sound weird. But who the hell is emailing all this stuff. That's what I was thinking. Do you what I'm saying? You're telling me that you run with the smartest? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. The same could be said with texts now. I don't think anyone's
Starting point is 00:37:47 conscious of what they're texting people like criminals or not. Like if it's, you know. I will say this. So this is so crazy to me. So movies putting things in plain sight, right? Have you guys heard about the black phone? Yeah. So in the black phone, the grabers, a serial killer who, you know, It takes kids. And the movie is about a kid who gets kidnapped. And he's talking to the victims through a phone. It's like the ghost of little kids. It's really sad.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. It's a good movie. The grabber, people started being like, wait a minute. He looks really familiar. Does he look like anyone to you guys? I mean. That's crazy. To the T.
Starting point is 00:38:24 There's actually a picture of him. I mean, that's fucking crazy. Yeah. So the director of this movie came out and he basically said like, It was not intentional, but whoa. Yeah. Even he was like, whoa. Like that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:41 So I got me going down a rabbit hole about movies, things that have been in movies over the years that have turned out to be true. Maybe some things that were on purpose. Maybe some things that weren't. This one is my favorite because I have been a defender of this movie for years. And I'm so happy it's getting its flowers now. Scream 3. I love Scream 3. It gets so much hate.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Over the last. Oh, my God. 25 years, 26 years. It has been the most hated scream movie. Everybody thinks it's cheesy and the worst. I love that movie so much. Now people are starting to love it because it really was ahead of its time,
Starting point is 00:39:15 but also putting things in plain sight. So, this is a spoiler. If you haven't seen Scream 3. What are you doing? Go watch it. So you've seen it. I know. I'm just the spoilers are out of control.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Also, Riley, put on sunglasses. If you haven't seen Screen 3 yet, come on. I started seeing entities around and I had to block them. Ooh, entity blockers. Entity blockers. Okay, so the whole idea of Scream is that Sydney, played by Neb Campbell, her mom, Maureen Prescott, was murdered when Sydney was a teenager, and all the motives of the killers
Starting point is 00:39:48 kind of tie back to that. So in Scream 3, they find out that Mauree Prescott, Sydney's mom, actually was an actress in Hollywood. She went away for a few years. Nobody knew she was trying to be an actor, and then she kind of disappeared, and that's what the movie's about. But this is a scene of one of the characters in the movie named John Milton, who is a horror movie producer. And his storyline kind of ties into the motive of the killer.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But here is a moment where they're talking about Maureen Prescott. I mean, murders on your set and still you say nothing? Get real. That would make me a suspect. Just because you knew her? Yeah. I don't think so. Just what did happen to Maureen when she was in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Now you listen to me, Lois Lane. Let it go. It's dead and buried. How would you like to see it dug up on national TV? How did you look out? Why don't you tell me what happened? It was in the 70s. Everything was different.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I was well known for my parties. Man, I knew what they were. It was for girls like her to meet men. Men who could get them parts if they made the right impression. Nothing happened to her that she didn't invite in one way or another, no matter what she said afterwards. Are you saying she... I'm saying things got out of hand.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Maybe they did. take advantage of her. You know, maybe the sad truth is, this is not the city for innocence. No charge is we're brought. And the bottom line is, Rainer Reynolds wouldn't play by the rules. You want to get ahead in Hollywood? You're to play the game or go home. Well, guess who one of the producers of this movie was? Harvey Weinstein. Oh, yuck. That's crazy. So Harvey Weinstein, executive produced all the Scream movies. Something in the Scream community. we all hold hands through that moment. But it is interesting because when the script was written and sent to the Weinsteins, they signed off on it.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Which to me is kind of what Jared was saying earlier about that company that reached out to me. It's like, oh, well, obviously I'm innocent because if I was guilty, I wouldn't let them put this in one of my movies. But it literally is the motive of the movie. So at the end, spoiler, the killer is Maureen's son that she had because she was, at a Hollywood party and his life was destroyed because his mom ended up dying. But literally based on the Weinstein, which means that the people that wrote this movie knew probably what was happening or just had heard rumors and then delivered it right to his face.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Right. Imagine. Wrote a movie basically where he is the villain and then they hand him the script like, what do you think? With everything coming out right now, I feel like there is one gentleman that we all need to give flowers to that's been trying to expose a lot for a long time. which is Corey Feldman.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Yeah. I feel like Corey Feldman has been on top of this for like 20 years. And I think finally, like people, it's coming to light. And I think that we should maybe look back on a lot of things that he said and look at them through the lens of maybe he isn't just some guy who sings funny music on Good Morning America and dances like a good one. But he's been talking about it forever and been an advocate. And he actually put out a documentary.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And I believe it got like white from the internet within a couple of days. I think someone hacked into it, took it down and now it's like nowhere to be found. But I mean, I mean, have you seen that clip of him on the view? Was that him on the view where he's talking about it? And like I forget who it is. But like, oh, you don't want to say that. It's like that to lighten it up a little bit. I lost my mind when I saw this.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So you guys know, scary movie six is coming. Everybody's excited about it. Everybody's excited about it. You know, they're really going in. So I'm very curious to see it. and excited. But this clip came out because one of the biggest Mandela effects of all time involves scary movie,
Starting point is 00:43:40 and Marlon Waynes was asked about it on a podcast, and here's what he said. There is a part of Scary Movie 2 that has its very own Mandela effect. Do you know about this? Oh, yeah. The quote, Take My Little Hand, is the correct quote, right? From the film.
Starting point is 00:43:56 But everybody, everybody thinks it's Take My Strong Hand. Yeah, it is Take My Strong Hand. No, it's Take My Strong Hand. No, it's Take My Little Hand. And my mind blew today. Really? I thought it was, Take my strong hand.
Starting point is 00:44:09 We, what? I remember saying take my strong hand. Wait, so you have been affected by the other. We wrote it, and I, yeah. But then again, people think I said, I see white people in the original scary movie, and I said, I see dead people. What?
Starting point is 00:44:23 What? I was like, wait, now I specifically also remember him saying, I see white people. That was literally like in the trailer, I remember. I see dead people. I remember even the little hand thing. I remember strong hand, and I used to repeat that all the time growing up. I think, okay, for the white people, dead people, that one kind of throws me off a little bit.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah. But I think the strong hand is when he's mixing the mashed potatoes. I think he says, let me use my strong hand. I bet he used my strong hand. And I think that might be where he says that. I think he's doing it with his hands, isn't he? Because he's doing it with his hand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:01 No, he puts his hand in it. I haven't seen it. But the white people thing, I'm pretty positive he said white people. Yeah. I think that was, it's so interesting because in the scene when we all think he says, take my strong hand, he's like trying to help someone who's about to fall to their death. So like it makes sense for him to be like, take my strong hand. Take my little hand doesn't even make sense in the scene.
Starting point is 00:45:19 No. It's like. So it's like what? Whoa. We're back. And I feel like we're all good, right? We're all safe. Nobody's hurt themselves.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Nobody's been hurt. Okay. All right. What would I do if I did, though? What would you do? I don't know. at your workplace or in general i mean a lot of things can happen you can get hurt in a situation in a car accident whatever it is and then you're not able to work you're not able to you know
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Starting point is 00:47:12 We'll get back to the dark ones, but I also just want to say this, because I'm so happy that I am right about this theory, because this is very stupid. People laughed at me, people in my own life thought that this was ridiculous. I don't even know what he's going to say, and I'm annoyed. Who is he talking about? I don't know. I'm ready to be annoyed. There is a theory that we've talked about on the show, and I remember in the room people
Starting point is 00:47:32 laughing at me. there is a theory that every time you walk into Barnes and Nobles oh wow yeah you got a shit did I laugh at you because I know this is the same with home goods you laugh to me and that's okay that's okay well now you know where to go when you're a little backed up you guys get a little back to our dog to Barnes & Noble that actually makes sense because he left Barnes & Noble's and he had an accident in the mall are you kidding me yeah and he has never done that so it works for all living beings
Starting point is 00:48:00 Never pooped when I'd take him places. He used to go hot wheel hunting with me all the time. And we were leaving Barnes & Noble's just walking and he diaryed all over the place. Yeah. And to the point where I was carried him and I was running. And then I looked back and I saw it like a little bit on the ground. I was like, dude, stop. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:48:17 We were literally going to do a conspiracy band video where we were going to go to Barnes and Nobles and see who shit. Yeah, that's too much. The full plan was we're going to go to Taco Bell, eat a lot of Taco Bell, and then go to Bards and Noble. But that might have, people could have blamed the Taco Bell, though. Well, it was more because we didn't know. We should do Taco Bell Starbucks, then Barnes & Olney. Oh, that I think is going to go to any store. You should just eat a block of cheese and then go to Barnes & & Olives and see how powerful.
Starting point is 00:48:43 That's the real test. That's what those. Well, I got an email from Michaela, which, by the way, if you have any theories you want us to talk about Shane Delson podcast stuff at gmail.com. Michaela said, I just heard that there is actually a reason that makes you shit when you go to Barnes & Noble's. It's because of the glue in the binding of the books. So then I was like, wait, what? I Google it.
Starting point is 00:49:04 There are certain types of glue, specifically decaying book glue found in old libraries or bookstores that is known to cause an urge to defecate. No way. So there's just so much glue. We're smelling it having been to go to the rest of it. And that chemical makes you have to shit. Wow. And I feel justified.
Starting point is 00:49:24 How fucked up is it? That's good. Then if that is, this is the case, then that would be like the worst place to have to go to the bathroom is at the library because everybody's quiet. Oh, my God. Imagine having diary at the library? Everyone's listening. I'm just saying. Oh, God, I feel so just like.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Okay. I'm calling this segment ridiculous, right? This is about McDonald's. So I got an email. Actually, we got like a hundred emails about this. I searched McDonald's in the email that was like, oh, people are really talking about this. So there is a theory that McDonald's might be using allegedly human meat in their burgers. I do not believe this.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I'm going to say that right up front. I do not believe this. My McDonald's would never. That would be crazy. This is from Ari. Oriana Runday. Hey, Shane and Friends. I've been a fan for so long.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Thank you, Ari. Everyone has always speculated that McDonald's might be possibly using human meat. Yikes. But this had me thinking of an idea. What if you guys did a conspiracy fan video? where you did a 23 and me test on a big Mac. Oh my gosh. That made me laugh so hard.
Starting point is 00:50:35 That's so fucking genius. So this is the post that's going by right now. It's very long, so I'm not going to read the whole thing. But here's how it starts. McDonald serves around 75 burgers every second. Oh, my God. That's over 6.5 million burgers per day worldwide. Let's crunch the numbers.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Assuming that an average patty's four ounces, that's roughly 6 to 9 million pounds of beef consumed daily. It keeps going. But basically the gist of this all is saying there are not enough cows in the world to provide McDonald's with that many burgers. So let alone all the beef that's in stores, other restaurants. Right. So I do not think McDonald's is using people.
Starting point is 00:51:17 That's so gross and scary for me because I literally, for my food, everything, just ate the new McDonald's burger out of that night. Was it a big arch? Yes. And as I was eating that, I was like, wow, this meat tastes completely different than any of the other burgers that I've ever had here. Why is that? Wow. Is it more fresh or is it more this or whatever?
Starting point is 00:51:34 And I'm like, hmm, it does taste completely different. And that's all I was thinking the entire time is how different it tasted. And now that you're saying this. And then you thought back to that time you had human. Now I'm spiraling that I ate human. You did. You had long pig? Well, what makes you think because there is not enough cows or on the earth or chicken.
Starting point is 00:51:52 There's not enough. I think we slaughter about 36 million pounds of beef a year, but on average eat around 60 million. So what is actually in the McDonald's burger? Aside, okay, let's say it's not human, but what is it? That's a big bite for a big arch. And that's, you know, what? Yeah, and all of the meat.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Do you just say cats? Is it rats? Allegedly, but I mean. Allegedly, yes. I mean, but I mean, another type of animal. Wow, that is fucking scary. It's also scary, and we've talked about this before, but like a lot of these fast food places, like the actual burger tastes like nothing. It just tastes like texture and they just add little drops of like meat flavor.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah. And coloring. Fucking crazy. Okay. This next one, we have kind of talked about this before. But we got a lot of emails about it, but also I've been falling down rabbit holes about it. Let's talk about the Titanic theory. So we talked about it before.
Starting point is 00:52:46 The theory that the Titanic, the boat, might have been switched out with another boat called the Olympic. for, you know, tax reasons. They basically, like, insurance fraud reasons. They wanted to sink this other boat to get the insurance money. With people on it? Well, but I just read this new theory, and I was like, oh. So, J.P. Morgan owned the Titanic, but he also owned a ship called the Olympic. He knew that the Olympic was very old and, you know, passed its prime.
Starting point is 00:53:15 So there's a theory that he switched the names and the colors of the two ships. He wanted to sink the ship because all of J.P. Morgan's business competitors were on board. Wow. None of them survived the trip. Also, J.P. Morgan was supposed to be on the Titanic voyage, but a few minutes before the journey begin, he canceled his trip. And look at these two fucking ships. They look identical. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:43 So where do they say the Olympic is now? I don't know. I probably got decommissioned. Probably. I've heard it was pretty much all like the other banking giants. Yeah. They invited all the billionaires and they just sunk them. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Well, speaking of terrifying, Jared sent me this. And this is very, very interesting to me. So the theory that maybe AI knows, because AI is all about predicting, right? They are predicting events. They take information, they use their algorithms, and then they predict the outcomes. That is kind of what AI is trained to do. So Alexa obviously uses some AI. This video came out.
Starting point is 00:54:25 That is so scary. Just take a look. Hey, Alexa, how many days until Halloween, 2026? Halloween in 2026 is 299 days away on Saturday, October 31st. How many days until Thanksgiving, 26? Thanksgiving Day in 26. is 325 days away on Thursday, November 26th. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Hey, Alexa, how many days until Christmas, 2026? There aren't any Christmas holidays in 2026. So two things. Either Alexa knows something, or she's like, bitch, shut up. I'm done answering. I'm done answering your fucking stupid questions. Do you not have Google?
Starting point is 00:55:10 I think it's more likely she knows something. Like, geez, dude. That is interesting to me because it's like, What is AI predicting? Then what should we do? No matter how much we talk about this stuff? No, no, no. I mean, if we have less than a year to live as a society.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I'm going to promise everybody the best Christmas presents this year. Or do you think the Grinch? Do you think the Grinch is going to steal Christmas this year? Conspiracy. And who plays the Grinch? Jerry. I'm done. So you don't think I should be reckless and spend everything.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Oh, really? Oh, sorry. I'm just, they're sorry. Well, I want to have a little fun for a second. This has been very dark, which I love. It's a, you know, but this is something that I've been wanting to talk about for a while just because I think it's funny. Buffet conspiracies. I know, this is stupid.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Why are we doing this? Because I enjoy it, okay? They're disgusting. Let me have fun. I mean, who doesn't love a good chag trip? I mean, I love a buffet, but you got to know, like, the practices of the food sitting is disgusting. Oh, well. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I think the bigger problem is that people are disgusting. I mean, if it's a good buffet, it doesn't sit very long, you know. So here's a few theories about buffets, little tricks they do, little things to get you full faster, take your money. Number one, the plates are smaller to make the food appear to be more, which now that I'm thinking about it, I think that is true. The plates that come in the little pop up, which is fun. I love a Vegas buffet. The chairs are uncomfortable to increase turnover. obviously that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:56:45 They refill drinks faster to make you fill up faster. Obviously, that makes sense. I remember a soup plantation, which rest in peace. I love soup plantation. And I remember they would do constant Diet Coke refills to a point where I'm like, I can't take it anymore. But now I'm thinking about it, it's because carbonation, especially. They want to fill you up.
Starting point is 00:57:01 All right, the next one, they put the cheapest carbs up front to fill you up. The bread rolls, the rice, the carbs, that makes sense. The pasta is. The cheese bread. This one made me laugh. The expensive items are harder to reach. Trab legs, prime rib. Those are all hard to reach.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And they're in high traffic area. So they'll be a line and you're just like, I don't want to wait. And sometimes it's even like you have to be served. Yeah, it's like the one thing the guy has to do. And so it's like, I don't want to wait in that. Yes. Okay, this one is also funny.
Starting point is 00:57:33 The pizza is strategically average. It's good enough to eat, but it's not too good to where you want seconds. The chef in the back. I would debate that. Zoo Plantation Square Bread Pizza is pretty delicious. And they're out of business. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:49 There you go. They didn't abide by the rules. I believe their pizza was like really tiny, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah, you can get as much as you want. The serving spoons are bigger for cheap food, such as rice and pasta. And then they give you tiny little tongs for the expensive foods, like the shrimp, the crabs, and the high-quality meats.
Starting point is 00:58:06 This seems like a conspiracy van video to me. Oh, we'll get to it. The high value items require more effort. Obviously, crab legs, you got to crack them. And like Ryland said, for prime rib, you have to wait in line and you have to, you know. For it to be sliced. And it gets awkward. It's like, hey, can I have another slice?
Starting point is 00:58:24 And it gets like, oh, yeah. This one, I 100% believe. The desserts are designed to look better than they taste. That way you think you're getting a good deal because the desserts look so good. But they actually aren't. The display is always nice. I have never enjoyed a buffet dessert. Buffet dessert is not.
Starting point is 00:58:40 The little cakes that are so pretty. and so cool, so animal crossing vibes, and then you bite it into it. You're like, here's where you head to at that buffet. You go to the soft serve. You're always one step ahead of you. That is a good. Oh, really? This is what you do.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It might be because he's reading your list. I didn't. Seafood is saltier on purpose because that makes you have to drink more, which means that you'll get full faster. So that's interesting. And then the final one, yes, the soft serve ice cream is placed at the end to seal the deal. Because scientifically, after you eat soft serve ice cream, You don't crave savory foods anymore, which means you get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I will debate that one because when we go to a soup plantation, I would get the soft serve, and then I go right back for that Jones Broccoli Madness. Try that. Figure that one out, science. But like Rylan said, this could be fun. We haven't traveled for a conspiracy van video, maybe ever. So it could be fun to go to Vegas. I guess.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Went to Disney. So we could go to Vegas and test out the buffet theory, but there's also a bunch of other Vegas theories. And Spencer, have you? I've never been there. Never been. What? You've never been to Vegas? I didn't.
Starting point is 00:59:44 It's very far from the East Coast. And it's like, if you're not 21, it's like, why go? Yeah. That's not an excuse, Spencer. How long have you been here? It's just a quick four-hour drive. Well, I will say, though, didn't you say you're because of your heart? Yeah, technically, because of my pacemaker, I'm not supposed to, I can't use slot machines.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Oh. But there's so many, like, people who go to casinos, I think I'd be okay. I'll have to ask my doctor, but I'll be fine. Okay. Okay. I have one more theory before we get into our final little deep dive. This is interesting. Question.
Starting point is 01:00:16 When you go to a grocery store, get a cart, you empty it out in your car. Do you put the cart back where it needs to go? Out of pure and public pressure. Or do you just leave it? I do and I get frustrated when people don't. Okay. Spencer? No, I always put it back.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Have you ever seen cartnarks? Cartnarks are an independent organization that tries to get people to just take their cart back. to the cart return that's not where the cars go that's the mulch I love carton arcs I live in fear I think that guy
Starting point is 01:00:47 not that I didn't do it but 10 cart and arcs don't exist I can't live in that world I think though from the retail perspective like I worked at Target exactly yeah and a lot of people get very irritated because we were just stocking
Starting point is 01:00:59 if someone came up and asked us where something was but like I didn't mind taking like 10 minutes to fucking walk around a store and tell someone where it was so I don't know Sandy oh I put it back every time I put it back yeah
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yes, I always put it back. Wow, he's saying a lot. No, no, I also, I also, oh, I also live in a world that there's cart and arcs. I'll always try to do that. Okay, well, let us know in the comments. Are you a put it back person or are you a leave it out? Because this is actually a test. This is a shopping cart theory.
Starting point is 01:01:32 The shopping cart theory is the ultimate litmus test for whether a person is capable of self-governing. If you return your cart, that is an easy, convenient task, one which we all recognize as the correct appropriate thing to do. To return the cart is right. There's no situations unless there's an emergency where you can't return your cart. But it's also not illegal to abandon your cart. So there's no punishment and there's no reward. So the shopping cart theory actually determines whether or not you are a good or bad member of society. because if you're living in a society where there's no punishment and no rewards,
Starting point is 01:02:09 what are you going to do? You're going to kill? You're going to steal? What are you going to do? Very similar to the shopping cart. So the main part of that question is interesting. And I'm happy that we all are put it back people because I was kind of scared. Maybe one of us wouldn't be.
Starting point is 01:02:22 When I met my boyfriend, he would like just leave it wherever. And I was like, oh, I actually can't be with you if you keep doing this. You need to start putting it back. And it was like a big point of contention. Is he mean to waiters too? No. I would have broken up with him. That's actually a huge pet peevely.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I can't stand that. It's kind of similar to me like, do you always pick up your dog's poop or not? Yeah, that's a good one too. Wow. Okay, so let's finish this episode off with a metal hole. Sam Trippley. Okay, so this clip I saw and I sent it to Jared right away
Starting point is 01:02:56 because I'm like, do you know about this? Is this real? What is happening with this? Do you know this guy? He has a podcast called the Tinfoil hat podcast with Eddie Bravo. All right. So this clip is crazy to me. Check it out. The whole Facebook movie is a giant lie. It's a propaganda piece.
Starting point is 01:03:12 That was a Pentagon program called LifeLog. LifeLog is a Pentagon program that wants to collect all your data for your whole life. What day did the government stop the Lifelog project? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. DARPA shut down the LifeLog Project February 4, 2004. What day was Facebook registered as a business? Oh my God. No way, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:40 The exact same day. They don't even hide it, dude. It was created by DARPA. Yeah. They handed the Mark Zuckerberg. And then the vossal. What about the other? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:49 That's all. And that's why they became the first Bitcoin millionaires. Because they played all. Oh, my God. It's all theater, dude. So what is the purpose of life log? To collect all your data for your whole entire life. So the theory that Facebook was basically just a cover-up for something bigger, which is collecting all of your data, not just personal data, but like pictures of everything you do, you know, something you're doing every second, what you enjoy, all of that.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Is that real? So DARPA is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and they're responsible for creating the internet, GPS, cyborg insects, which are little insect drones that are spies. There's a fly. I know. Yeah, right when I said that. And then Siri. So basically, they're like a branch of the scientific research center. And their whole goal is to create all of these different programs in order to data mine.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And one thing that was interesting is one of the goals of Facebook was to literally control people's emotions. And I believe it was in 2014. They were actually sued because it was proven that they were giving different kinds of opposed to different people and allowing them to see different comments just to get them like either wild up or mad or you know like all that good stuff but that is absolutely true it's it's definitely a thing well speaking interesting speaking of new ways to lifelog and collect data um chair those are some nice glasses you got there rightland you got some nice glasses here Chris you didn't bring your meta glasses in today did you no well I don't know if you guys saw this new news story there was a big investigation
Starting point is 01:05:29 into the meta glasses recently and has a lot to do with data collection, data security, all this sort of stuff, a Swedish newspaper, what are they called? Svengskadagbad. Well, thank you. I am part Swedish. So they did this big investigation because they're these reports they started getting about people in other countries, specifically in Kenya, coming out and saying we can see, we're reviewing footage from these meta glasses and we can see everything people are doing.
Starting point is 01:05:59 What? So, here, whenever you ask, yeah, yes, yeah. Chris looks worried. Chris has a few home videos. There might be some people in Kenya who've seen some rough stuff. So when you wear the glasses, you can ask meta, like, hey, meta, what's the, you know, what am I looking at? This, that, this. So that footage is being data trained.
Starting point is 01:06:20 So every time you're seeing it, that instead of the AI just reading, like reading it and telling you what it is, you need humans to tell the AI. This is what it is. We're going to help the AI. It's basically help the AI learn and learn and learn. And so META has these subcontracted companies all over the world. All these AI companies do this. There's like a secret, I guess it would be like behind the curtain or something of AI all over the world where these tech centers where they're just employing people to come. And like there's like these rooms.
Starting point is 01:06:45 The newspaper, they don't have pictures obviously because they're just interviewing people. But they're describing these rooms just like rows and rows of computers. And people just like it'll be like a video. Be like, select the flower pot. And they like select it on the screen. They write this is a purple flower. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Because they need to teach the AI, like to learn better, learn better. And so this is a quote. Whenever you ask the meta-AI questions about what you're seeing, the footage is sent to Kenya where there is a sea of workers whose job it is to train AI models. This is becoming a super common thing where huge AI companies will use cheap foreign labor to teach their AIs how to recognize objects and situations better. These people work for a company called SAMA in Kenya. And they're sent videos all the, like, you know, they're seeing all this stuff over and over again.
Starting point is 01:07:29 They started to come out saying, hey, we're seeing a lot of weird stuff. Like, we're seeing a lot of stuff that makes me it really uncomfortable. We see a lot of the reports. We see a lot of people going to the bathroom. We see a lot of people having sex. You'll put your meta-AI glasses on the dresser. Your wife comes in naked. Your husband comes in naked.
Starting point is 01:07:46 They see all this stuff. So all this data is being sent and taken to another country where it doesn't subscribe to American or European or whatever data laws where they can, you know. Oh, my God. Allegedly, you know, a meta is saying, oh, we just do this for revision. The data is secure. blah blah blah but like that data is being sent you know on not with the most secure connection this is a this is a quote we see everything from living rooms to naked bodies meta has this type of content and it's databases people can record themselves in the wrong way and not even know what they
Starting point is 01:08:15 are recording they are real people like you and me so the big thing that's come out about this is that people don't realize that every time you talk to your glasses it's recording and sending data every time you talk to it and there's this whole thing that meta's not telling you any of this and They're saying, like, so they went out to all these places that sell meta glasses and they were like, oh, I'm thinking about getting these. These aren't like sending data to anyone, right? Like, no, no, no, you can totally pick and choose where your data gets sent. It's like, you know, they're saying like, you can select no and like completely fine. So then these people bought the glasses and tried to go in and click out of it, try to find where it is in the terms of conditions.
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Starting point is 01:09:28 messages to AIs. This review can be automated or manual. Humor. Like you can turn it off and but your AI doesn't work if you don't interact with Wi-Fi. So you can technically turn it off, but it basically shuts down all function of the glasses. So it's like yeah, you can turn it off but then it's just like what you don't have, you just bought a useless pair of glasses that maybe has a camera I guess. The headphones are pretty cool. That's why I like them. But yeah. This is definitely happening. Yeah, this is like a recent big like expose thing. So it's basically really following up on is like how do we find even more ways to watch every single moment of every time we're doing this is also just the stuff that's come out about officially when they're recording officially when is the camera recording we didn't know that that camera was recording so how do we know it's not recording all the time where is this data being stored how is it being used how is what a AI is analyzing that data like it's just like it's just showing like privacy is done we even talk about having them in the case but who's to say that they're not being able to hear even though they can't see you well I had one more meta thing just to wrap that all up. So do you guys remember we talked about it before about
Starting point is 01:10:33 and we've talked about a little bit about these smaller companies who are will take a level. You can upload a bunch of videos and stuff. I've loved a pass. Someone who's passed and they can recreate it. Well, meta has been recently just been granted the patent to allow AI to train itself on your online presence and then it has the ability to take over your account once you passed away. So their spokesperson, I will say their spokesperson says they have No plans to move forward with this technology. Sure, you don't. We just created it.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Why file the patent? But yeah, this is a quote. The language model may be used for simulating the user when the user is absent from the social networking system. For example, when the user takes a long break or if the user is deceased. So it's basically a full on dead internet, literally dead internet. Literally this person is dead. Their profile is, you know, they don't have to create a whole new profile to try to act like it's human. They have this basis to go off of.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I think they just call that AI assistant, right? Now like kind of what people are doing right now. Yeah, yeah. But this is like fully within the meta, like so it's not, you don't even have to go outside of this. You said there's a word for it. Yeah. So this is a new, so this is a new thing called grief tech.
Starting point is 01:11:38 This is what it's being labeled as with this whole. Crazy. People, a lot of psychologists are saying they predicted in like 10, 20 years, the way we respond to grief and grieve as humans is going to alter because of all this stuff. Because we're going to still feel like a person still. Exactly. And all these people are still going to be worth it. So we're not going to be able to have let stuff passed on.
Starting point is 01:11:57 And we won't have to because you're still going to be here. But yeah, so that's like the big other meta, meta news is that they want to, basically they just want the constant posting, the constant attention suck to never end. Like they see someone dying as like, they're not posting anymore. Like what a waste. We can't have an inactive profile. Yeah, exactly. It's like you want, yes, you know, this meta sounds horrible for this. but also are we like encouraging this kind of product to come out?
Starting point is 01:12:29 Like do we want this? Yeah, because they're not the first one to do it. They're just the big ones. McDonald's wouldn't be selling six billion burgers a day if people weren't asking for six billion burgers a day. So maybe, you know, it's maybe we need a shift of our consciousness because the whole thing about consciousness is you're less conscious, the more that you don't interact with your environment in reality.
Starting point is 01:12:48 So like they're really trying to dumb us down and lower our conscious waves. What it sounds like. Well, and I know maybe they'll look. get rid of it, but I know Facebook has it where you can actually set up like a legacy, buddy, I don't know exactly how they call it. But I know it's a legacy something and where you can essentially give access to your account after you pass. But I wonder if they're going to get rid of that if this new AI situation is going to take
Starting point is 01:13:10 place. Yeah, well these experts were saying that was almost like clearly an experiment for this. Yeah. Yeah. Like if people are interested in like, you know, there's clearly demonstrated interest in this. And like they're saying that was like step one of this kind of process. of turning into what it is now. Which just to, you know, tie this all together,
Starting point is 01:13:28 they do say that, like, this generation's Ouija board is going to be Chajibati and AI. So it does make sense that that is an open vessel that things can jump into and talk to you through and maybe pretend to be your grandma. That would be sweet. Yeah, and it just links also further with the, like,
Starting point is 01:13:45 what we were talking about with the fake Bill Clinton and Stephen Hawking thing. It's just like, what's real anymore? It's all just sloped so you can get away with whatever you want. Let you guys go. That was our show. Was it slop or not?
Starting point is 01:13:58 You let us know. Slop or not. I enjoyed this. I felt like this was fun. It was different. It was deep. It was dark. It made me scared at certain points.
Starting point is 01:14:08 The sunglasses thing is crazy. Well, I'm going to figure out this lighting. It's very intense. And yeah, let us know the comments. Do you want us to do this again? Do you like this style? Should we throw it in every once in a while? Because, yeah, we have so much.
Starting point is 01:14:20 We didn't even, you know, tap the surface. I have so many theories written down that we didn't even talk about. So we could do this again. And I have to ask, how is your back feeling? So much better. I feel, there's got to be good for you. This is so much.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I think, yeah. Even if it's not this full setup, I do think a table is a nice way to sit and talk and there's not a million things in front of all of us. And I love how close we are. Like together, it feels so intimate. And it really feels like when we're out there eating lunch and just chatting. That's exactly the vibe. It's sort of motivated me to brush my teeth.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I guess you could let us know the elements you want us to take from this. Were you talking to? Why are you? Why are you? Why are you staring at me, dude? I can't tell if you're talking to the audience or... Everyone. Give them a little peek. Still here.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Not a clone. Not a clone. Not yet. Not yet. Well, once you can put my personality into a robot that looks realistic, he'll be filling in from here. Right? Oh, my God.
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