The Shane Dawson Podcast - The "Mall World" Conspiracy Theory!
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I do not want drama with okay, but we're going to show this clip because I thought it was fascinating.
This is pretty crazy.
What would you do if somebody fed a steak?
Oh, that was pure mush.
Oh, that's the inside of that.
the steak.
First of all, I mean to.
This is sick.
Oh my God, what is that?
Is that moving?
What in the world is this?
Okay, so, first of all.
Hey, welcome back to whatever the hell this is.
Best Day of My Life Edition.
Guys, I don't know what Molly feels like.
I assume it's kind of like Jared and Sandy when they hit ketosis.
But baby, I am floating.
On air, baby.
He glides through.
hallways of our house right now and just says i'm floating on air i'm floating on air i literally did
say that yesterday and i it was it was honestly one of the gayest things i've ever said but i don't regret it
no you've been very in your element very happy very fulfilled this sounds like talking about somebody
who just started taking medication no let me explain but before we get into all of our updates
guys we have something huge that we have not done on this show yet this is big so one of our
poddience viewers slash patrons, Amira.
We've been in the chat and she was like,
I would love if you guys announced the gender of my baby on the podcast.
That would be amazing.
So she DM me the gender and the gender of Amira's baby is a girl.
Welcome to the world.
Congratulations.
Yeah, so that's amazing.
Congratulations.
We're so happy for you.
And thank you for watching our podcast.
Okay.
Jared and Sandy,
How are you guys doing?
I mean, listen, I know I'm over here floating on air,
but you guys are just floating away.
Surviving on air.
Surviving on air.
I was telling Sandy that every time before we've sat here, we're touching.
You know, like if, you know, getting on a roller coaster and you're just like, you know,
kind of stuffed in.
And I feel like that way.
I can't even move like touch here.
No, he's being dramatic.
Do I have blinders on?
Yeah, you guys haven't lost like seven inches on your legs.
But you guys like great.
Thank you.
You guys look so great.
And it's not even like about weight or anything.
of that you guys just are such good energy you feel i can just feel it i'm so happy for you guys well speaking
about good energy i did mention that jared called me a pumpkin a few weeks ago no i was he said i
he said sandy you look like a completely different person he's like i was looking at footage from before
he's like and your face was like a pumpkin and so round can you believe that well it was a dramatic
difference i was editing and i was like wow you're looking so good no he said you
look like a different person okay first of all i relate to this i relate to this because we started
re-watching old vlog misses to like get in the spirit do not try to put this on me i know rylan
turns to me and he goes it looks like you're wearing a fat suit oh oh my god well like i was like oh yeah
he's lost a lot of weight but i didn't realize until we went back and watched an old vlog and i was like
oh you're half of you're literally half wow i have
And so, yeah, it looked like when he had put me in a fat suit.
You're saying it like you're saying something, no, it was good, but you're just saying what you said again.
You're not saying anything nice.
Okay, well, Jared called Sandy a pumpkin.
I was like to say you're making Jared look very good right now.
Oh no, you guys think his is better than mine?
You said fat suit.
I think he's using dramatic effects.
And I just said her face.
It wasn't her whole body.
Two backstepping are going on right here.
I'm trying to take some of the heat off.
Okay.
Well,
when he was double,
double sized.
Double stuffed.
When he was double stuffed,
I loved him just the same.
You did.
And I never asked him to lose weight or anything.
I mean,
he meant it as a compliment.
Yeah.
But I just a pumpkin.
So did I.
And it's the spooky season.
I mean,
we're past it.
But pumpkins are still very Thanksgiving.
You do genuinely, though,
as time goes on.
like you age very gracefully.
Like you look the best you've looked since I've met.
Okay, so he's touching me and he's complimenting you.
Oh, yeah, before we started, Chris, groped Riley.
No, that's not what happened.
He, like, gently, like, grasped onto my entire leg.
Like a...
Am I a cuck?
Because I love it.
Wait, what you do.
I just love the way you did the motion is if, like, he could actually put his hand all around your whole leg.
Like, that's how thin you are.
He's like, grass.
Can we just talk about something really fast? Okay, so as you guys know, I've been working on getting this pilot made.
It's called Canceled. I'm so excited about it. Thank you to everybody who supported the Patreon. That's literally why it's happening.
So we've been going through this whole process. It has been little fires everywhere.
Listen, it has been every like I start working on it at like nine in the morning and then I'm on my walking pad at 2 a.m.
still doing it not sleeping but i am so excited and so grateful and happy it feels like this is what
i was born to do like every second of it my brain is like operating differently like not to say i
wasn't born to you know buy an item from tj max and talk with it return it i also think i was born
for that too but um you know i was born for a lot of things yeah yeah yeah but this it just is
fulfilling in such a different way i'm just so grateful i'm so happy and proud
And it's so, you're so all consumed by it in a wonderful way.
I'm not saying that as a negative, but it's so fun to watch you enjoy this process so much.
He's literally waking up at 7 a.m. some days and just working throughout the entire day and so excited by it and so passionate about it.
It's very fun.
7 a.m.
I know.
Chris, what's happening?
He sent me like the eye emojis yesterday at 7 a.m.
And he was like, I can't sleep.
Because yesterday was such a big day.
So where we're at right now.
When you guys are watching this, we're actually filming it.
Literally right now, as you're watching this, we are filming, which knock on wood, it's going
great, right?
Yes, it's going great.
So well.
But where we're at right now is we did the location scouting, we found, so it's a show about
Hollywood.
It's about a girl who gets canceled, very much, you know, the biggest star in the world
and her life crumbling and about a boy who moved out to L.A., and he's thinking moving back
to Ohio.
And so it's about their chemistry.
So that's what the show's about.
So we had to find a mansion.
We found the craziest, craziest mansion.
We found the best locations.
Everything is going well.
And then yesterday was such a big day because it was the casting day.
So for the last two weeks, I've been going through audition tapes, hundreds of them,
seeing people do their versions of, you know, of the characters.
So we had like 30.
So you get callbacks for actors.
We had like 30 maybe more actors come in all throughout the day.
It was so fun.
So we set it up right here.
We set it up right here.
We were Jared and Sandy are is where the actors were.
All of us were sitting over here.
So then actors would come in.
They would perform.
You know, I'd give them direction.
Sometimes I would jump up and start filming them on my phone to like feel like it's real.
And then, but here's the other funny part.
So you know me.
I'm excited and I'm a feeder.
So I went a little crazy.
I got up at seven.
I went to the grocery store and I fucking filled the office with the food.
It was like, oh, I got Susie cake.
I got Halloween cookies.
I got cupcakes.
I got, you know, chumps.
I got chips.
I got like a thousand bottles of water.
Everyone that walked in here was like,
the most I've ever seen at a casting office
is a communal water truck
with plastic cuts that I've already been used.
And it was like a party.
I walked out.
The actors were in there
and I was just like,
how's everyone doing?
What's happening?
I had music going.
Little club music.
We had to turn it down at one point.
They're performing and it's like,
boom, boom.
They were having so much.
The actors were having so much fun at the lobby party
that they were too loud.
And we had to go tell them like,
hey, can you guys?
But I mean, come on.
What are you going to do is party? I said a vibe. It was so fun. And like having that moment where
the actor would come in and would read something I wrote. And the main actors who we cast,
her name's Lily. She's incredible. She made me. She cried. I cried. It was like the best moment.
One of the best moments of my life, honestly, was this whole day. And I'm so grateful for the actors.
And even the ones who were not going to cast, like, we're so fucking good. If the show happens,
I'm going to write roles for them because it was that great.
There's one actress who, so one of the main characters is named Sharon.
She's like an intense Hollywood agent.
She's like so intense, but so funny and so heartfelt, but such a just intense woman.
And the second I saw her, I was like, that's her.
Oh my God.
Like, I literally wrote this for her and I didn't even know her.
But the fun thing is she acts with Rylan and all the scenes because he plays her assistant.
So Rylan was here and he dressed the part and he came in.
And like, so when she came into audition, Rylan was like a part of it.
And that was fun.
And I filmed it.
So maybe I'll show a little clip of that.
but I was so proud of Riley because you nailed your line sweetie thanks babes well that was only in that
scene I only had one line but but you nailed it I believed it you don't have an assistant yet listen to me
I have an interview with one this afternoon okay replace me I fucking wish I was so proud of you
so it was very fun so yeah that's the update on that we're going to make it soon I'm praying so hard
that it becomes something I have a gut feeling about it it just feels very meant to be and yeah
all the behind the scenes and we've been documenting everything.
It's on Patreon.
Don't, you don't, you know, no pressure at all.
But I'm very grateful for, you know, you guys were supporting.
So, okay, another thing that I needed to talk about,
because we've been doing this pilot and because it's been very consuming,
this podcast is going to change slightly.
And what I mean by that is I think it's going to get more fun because we have planned it
a lot less.
I literally turned to Spencer last night and I was like so exhausted and I was like,
What the fuck are we going to tell you that tomorrow?
What are we going to do?
And I'm like, okay, let me think of a game of Thanksgiving.
But then we had fun because I think once my brain enters that,
that's when the fun really starts.
So we have a lot that we're going to do today.
But also, we're going to be trying something a little different.
I'm going to be doing the ad reads just with you guys, which I'm a little nervous about.
Live to tape.
I like it.
This is what I've been trying to do on my show too.
Well, because usually I set up a whole other day.
I do it at my office.
And, you know, I do that.
I just haven't had time to do that.
And I'm like, all right, let me just try it here with everybody and see how it goes.
So here's our first communal ad re- I'm scared to you.
Usually I'm alone and then you guys are watching.
It's like we're all at the bathroom with our dicks out at the trough.
Wait, you know what we should do to make it more fun?
Can we get a couple of those buzzer buttons?
Oh, yeah.
Maybe if I start to sound not genuine about the sponsor, you guys buzz me.
That's a good acting exercise.
Okay.
Okay, here we go. Oh, my God, I'm so nervous.
I need two of them.
This is embarrassing.
Okay, here we go.
Three, two, one.
Hey, okay.
Ew, that was weird.
He's already so, so, so, God.
I can't do it.
Ah, here we go.
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What?
What's what?
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We're not jocks.
Some of us are gay.
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What?
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Can we talk about that for a second?
Let's do it.
Wake that up.
Ryland doesn't want to go.
What?
Jerry doesn't want to go.
No,
no.
It's me and Sandy party.
Oh, my gosh.
I tell you I don't want to go.
Why are you throwing me under the bus in front of Sandy like that?
Because it's your birthday week.
Uh, well, what day is a poem?
Your birthday.
And is it in Vegas?
Yeah.
Maybe me and Sandy will take a little trip.
A little sister-in-law.
Vegas is so fun.
We had so fun in Vegas.
We did have so fun.
Are you just going to go right over Sandy's big news?
What?
Sandy has huge news.
She's a Gwen Stefani fan.
Always.
I don't know if she has a huge life change.
Oh my God.
Sandy, let everybody know your big news.
Yes, I quit my 9 to 5 job and yesterday was my last day.
I was so nervous and I'm sad, but I'm ready.
I'm ready to like do more.
Yes, but you quit your job because to do YouTube full time.
Congratulations.
I was telling Ryland, it's crazy because Jared and I are like playing in our videos and it's crazy to think.
We don't have to wait until the weekends or like after work to film them and we can just get so much done.
It's exciting.
I'm so proud of you.
I'm so happy.
Yeah.
I mean, this was, I remember when Ryland, you know, started, he made his channel and then I kind of had that talk with him where I was like, you know, I really believe in you and I really think that you need to kind of go all in on this and it was scary.
Yeah, you have to take a gamble on yourself.
And if you don't, you'd always wonder what could have been.
So congratulations.
It's a big, it's a huge thing to do.
And it was so sweet because when I emailed him or I text him and I said, I did it.
I turned, you know, I submitted the email and he said, I can't wait to see what God has in store for us.
And it was just so perfect.
And so as the week, the two weeks went on, I went through all sorts of emotions.
And then yesterday in my last day, I felt so at peace.
And I felt like, I'm going to miss these kids so much.
But I'm just ready to, you know, see what's out there.
And I, well, I guess today's your first day off.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, everything just seemed to go so smoothly and seamlessly.
And, you know, my brother was telling me like, you know, you're getting all the green lights.
Like, you better push the gas right now because they're not going to stay green forever.
And I was telling him how nervous I was and how safe it is to just stay there, you know?
And he said to me, he said, you know what?
That's why most people don't take the leap because they just get comfortable.
They're nervous.
It's scary.
He's like, but just use all of that energy and to just use all of that energy and to just,
just drive you to even do even more stuff.
So I'm excited.
Yeah.
So there's never been a better time than now
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So what's the plan for it?
So right now the channel is Sandy.
Y'all please guys go, subscribe.
Put on notifications.
Their videos are so good.
Vlog miss is coming.
But question, you guys have been kind of talking
about maybe rebranding because the channel really
is the two of you.
So whatever thoughts?
Do we have name ideas?
So we had about a thousand ideas.
We ran it through the filters.
They were very creative, but I think we've landed on Sandy and Jared.
Sandy and Jared.
Exactly.
I think we're flirting around with this spelling of my name, so, you know, but Sandy and Jared is what it's going to be.
Well, I'm so excited for you guys.
I'm so proud of you.
It's been really incredible.
I mean, you've transformed your life 180 since I've even met you, like not wanting to be on camera.
Now you guys are fit icons, and you've quit your job to pursue this.
Yeah. You know, it's wild. I got really emotional a few weeks ago when I submitted my email is that it's wild to think that Jared and I have been wanting to do certain things like this for so long for a decade at least. You know? And so we've just never really had the ability to do that. And now that we do, it's so overwhelming that like it's really happening. And yeah, and everybody's been supportive. Even when I talked to Lizzie, she's been like all of you have been so motivating, so inspirational.
and just so helpful, like, when we have questions or, you know, to kind of guide us.
And so just, we just feel really lucky.
Definitely.
Really blessed.
Because we've been talking about what we're thankful for and grateful for and Thanksgiving is coming up.
I thought it would be fun to play a little game that I'm calling grateful or hateful.
And Spencer had a brilliant idea.
He brought out of the loom.
Cornucopia, which, by the way, cornucopia is like a good drag name.
It is a great.
I saw that on the counter without the fruit of the loom paper, and I already knew it was fruit of the loom.
Really?
That's what the cornucopia is.
Period.
Okay, so in this cornucopia, we have...
What is the cornucopia?
This.
Yeah, that I guess.
Okay, so in this cornucopia, we have little pieces of paper, and on each piece of paper, we have something that we're either grateful for or hateful for.
So when I read it, everybody either go grateful or hateful.
And then I think we need to dissect.
And then we'll dissect why we got to where we got.
Okay, first one is a person who tells you that what you're eating will kill you.
Grateful.
Hey, faithful.
Wait, who said grateful?
Me, the trio.
Why are you grateful for people telling you?
I think I'm grateful too.
I think so.
You thought really hard about it.
Yeah.
And looked almost offended.
It wasn't an easy answer for me.
I'm not excited, but also I want to know.
I think it's important to know.
I don't know.
I'm somewhere.
I think he's still debating it.
Yeah.
It's not as he doesn't.
for me. Lizzie does it to you every week. Stop, it's
Kurti! That's true. See, I kind of
equated to someone who's not afraid
to tell you you have a bugger in your nose.
Let me take one of those papers up.
You know, I feel like
it's not easy sometimes to be honest
with somebody and to be that, like, up front.
So I'm grateful for people like that.
But then again, I don't know the last time someone
said that to me. Maybe I am hateful. I don't know.
I keep changing my mind. Okay.
Are you grateful or hateful for
the friend who tells you your breath stinks?
Very grateful.
Grateful.
Very grateful.
This one, once again, is about delivery.
Yeah, yes, yes.
For example, when Rylan's breath stinks, I will laugh, and then he's like, what?
And I'll go, nothing.
And he goes, what?
And I go, nothing.
And then he goes, does my breath stink?
And I say, yes.
So I get him to admit it.
But when my bread stinks, he is very mean about it.
You go, oh, my God, your breath states.
And then it's complaints me.
See?
Well, no, because.
Jared does not like it when I tell him his breath smell.
No, because you don't tell me that my breath smells.
You go, my love, did you brush your teeth today?
Very hard.
I do think bad breath, though, and things in your teeth are things like you can change in the moment.
So it's a good thing to say.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's not like, I don't know.
Maybe we could text.
So, like, if my breath is really bad, you guys just shoot me a text with like a nose emoji.
Or a mouthful.
They have that, like, green stink smoke.
Okay, that's mean.
In Texas, you're just like, we're in a room together.
It's just like, we're in a room together. It's just like,
No, it's a little harder to tell somebody about like a bugger or something in your teeth is a little easier than breath.
Breath is the hardest of those.
Breath is like a challenging one.
Yeah, I just say you got shit in your teeth.
Please tell me.
If ever stuff in my teeth, everyone in here, please tell me.
Okay.
Are we grateful or hateful for the grocery store woman at checkout who tells you, wow, having a party?
I'm grateful.
That happened to us
a free time.
That is hateful to me
because she knows
I'm not having a party.
She knows I'm all alone
and I need seven different flavors
of Halo Top
because it's been a long fucking day.
Listen, I think
I give them a pass though
when a grocery store clerk
says something like that
I'm just trying to move the conversation.
Well, it's a little dig.
It's a little dig.
I've had that where it's like
you can tell
they're just genuinely trying to spark conversation because they're bored.
And then there's the Karen.
I feel like I've had that more at like if I get takeout and they're like,
do you guys want silverware?
And then they grab like 20 things of the forks and they put in.
You're like, well, it's just me.
We never got food without that.
Yeah.
Or they ask you like how many people for bread?
Yeah, yeah.
Three people or four people.
Are you grateful or hateful for?
Okay.
You just started dating.
The person texts you.
that honestly, they're just not attracted to you.
I mean, grateful that you know it's over.
Okay.
Why wouldn't they just break up normal instead of saying?
I had a situation like this where the person,
and this was like after we kind of like did stuff.
He's like, and we're still together.
Oh.
You are one acting role and he's a monster.
Wow.
That is a you joke.
Wow.
No.
And it was like a text.
X-Words just like honestly like I don't know I just not feeling it like what and it was very much like I'm not attracted to you coded and I was just like oohf but honestly grateful because that's honest and um let him to me
yeah I mean if you explicitly said like I'm just not attracted to you like it's like why are you that's unnecessarily mean I kind of like it actually I think I'm I like it like maybe honestly face to face like tell me at the end of dinner I'm not attracted to you oh it makes me love you more
No, now you'd go home and cry.
It's like two things.
You're ugly and you have bad breath.
I'm over this.
What's wrong with me?
I love her.
Okay.
Do you know what I'm totally grateful for?
I don't think I'm hateful for it at all.
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guys. I'm still floating on air. Big winners. Um, okay. Next, are we grateful or are we hateful for
the car salesman who tells you that the car you like is ugly? Very grateful. Honestly,
me too. Well, listen, I feel like sometimes I do tend to go for an unattractive.
vehicle um yes until he met me okay i'm just saying a preas is not the cutest car after our first
date i like was looking him up and i was watching him do all these like talk show style videos
and i was like my biggest ink is a prius he literally was like i would never fuck someone that drove
a prius and i was like and my karma is fucking someone with a prius
you are on one today makes me like you more but yes i tell him his breath stinks
And guess what? I just ran out of gum at the office, so...
My breath is fine.
We have mince.
No, I'm talking about mine.
I know.
Okay, good.
You don't wear gum or...
You don't wear gum.
You have mince?
We have mince in this kitchen.
Really?
Yeah.
You're a mint boy?
Yeah, I didn't even know that.
Yeah.
I like mince and gum.
The secrets out.
Is Chris pulling out of mint right now?
Well, I have...
I have Listerine spray if any of it.
I thought that passed away in 2005.
I like the strips more personally.
I like the strips more personally.
I like the strips.
Melt on your mouth.
Because I always melt in my pockets and then it's like one melted lump and then like...
Oh, your pockets are too hot, babes.
Okay, next.
Oh, this one's sad.
Are we grateful or hateful for the friend who tells you that, sorry, babe, you can't sing.
Great, great.
Grateful, yeah.
Nothing worse than a singer who can't sing.
I would say, listen, if you can't sing and you're going to go audition for like American Idol or something,
I do think a friend may be stepping in and being like,
sweetie, you know?
But if you're just like singing in the car or whatever and having fun,
I think if your friend turns to you and says,
girl, like I feel like maybe that's me.
Yeah, you're right.
That's what I was thinking.
I was like, if you're at karaoke and you know you suck,
but you're having a good time.
Well, that's different.
You don't need to tell you that you're not good.
Like, you're just having fun.
I think we're talking about somebody that thinks they can pursue this.
Yeah.
If it's your significant other in the car and they're having fun,
I wouldn't want to dim their light personally.
Why are you looking at me like that?
Well, because you kind of can sing and I can't, so just let me have fun.
Oh, that's so sad.
I know I can't sing.
Like, I know.
But you know what you are good at?
Serving.
Okay.
Are we hateful or grateful for your partner faking an orgasm when things are just not working out?
Can guys do that?
Hateful.
Is that a thing?
You either are harder or you're not.
You're either coming or you're not.
I think hateful because I think communication's key.
And that's how, you know, you end up getting an orgasm while talking about it.
So, and I don't think every time, I mean, I just don't think it has to be something negative.
During sex, it's like, okay, I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm not feeling it right now.
I'm going to go ahead and fake it in just a second.
No, just because if you don't orgasm, it doesn't mean it doesn't feel good, you know?
So, yeah.
Aw, I love that.
Hate it or hateful.
I'm grateful.
I do think it's different for women because it's much harder for women.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, this is, this is very specific.
Are you grateful?
or hateful for someone telling you
that your butt crack is showing.
Very grateful.
Can you not feel it?
Sometimes no.
I'm always baffles
when I can just see somebody's ass crack
because I'm always paranoid
like reaching back.
When I was filming for this vlog for Patreon
that'll come out eventually,
I tried to do like a time lapse of me
and Chris setting up the podcast
and I rewatched it and I was like
Crabt Joe crack the entire time.
I like bend out.
I was like, uh-oh,
I need to get like.
I guess I forgot to wear my belt that day or something.
It's like, I can't use this entire time.
No, that's hilarious.
Now I get.
You got to zoom in for it.
Or have like a giant sensor bar or something.
No, I think every time you punch it.
You punch in.
You lean into it.
Okay, well, let's crack this off with one more.
Are we hateful or grateful for the first one in a relationship to let a fart
Rip.
Grateful.
Very grateful.
Unsung hero.
Unsung hero.
I remember I was with somebody and it had been a little while and then they turned to me and
they're like, here we go.
And it was fucking insane.
That's pretty crazy.
It was insane.
But honestly, I respect it.
We know.
I don't remember if you were first or not.
I don't either.
You were definitely first because you do your position.
Let me say this.
Ryland has this fart position.
We've talked about it before.
You posted it online one time, which was-
You posted it online.
No, you did.
You added on your main feed on IG.
Oh, yeah.
And people were like,
he has his ass in the air to get booked.
And I was like,
you think I'd post that on Instagram?
It's crazy.
You think I'd post that?
I'm posting my fart position.
I was like, no, no, no.
Let me clear some things up.
I remember about something that embarrassing online.
So he has this far position,
which, by the way,
there's nothing wilder than walking into a room.
He's doing his fart
position facing the door and he farts and his butt opens up i can't help where you're walking it's
like i go into a different room it winks at you hey and it's so efficient that one of my friends called me
the other night and was like hey could you remind me of that position let me explain we're walking around
we're doing our prison walk around the yard we're talking about how you know we're so excited about
the pilot and everything and then his phone rings and it's a friend he hasn't talked to in years and
he's like oh my gosh what's going on he answers it and his friend is like hey sorry i know it's late
whatever but like what was that thing you would do when like you would be in our room and then you'd
like get on the bed and you'd like you'd like put your butt in the air and you would like pull your
pants down what was that by the way this guy's married with kids and you were just like oh it's my
fart position he's like oh yeah I just told my wife to try it it was crazy if it works it works
who farted first I feel like we can take a guess I'd probably farted first oh right
Well, did you?
No, but Jared didn't take his pants off to fart,
but he does take his clothes off to go poop.
All of that?
I would bet be something to share it.
Like a bear?
It's like butt related, you know?
At the office?
This is only at home.
Only.
If you're at home, no, you're like clothes off.
To be fair, I put the crocs in leisure mode.
I take my shorts and my underwear off.
And the reason is, is because I use the squatty potty.
Yes.
And I don't want my shorts or my underwear touching the toilet.
Okay, so you're sanitary.
What about your shirt?
No, he loses.
The shirt could stay out.
Oh, you're poo bear in it.
I'm winning the poop, poop, isn't it?
Yeah, exactly.
We need that at home as well.
I do, you know, bottoms off.
Yeah.
Cheers.
My boyfriend also does that.
Really?
Who knew this was such a common thing?
I literally thought it was just my boyfriend.
It's like half the room.
I literally had no idea.
That's crazy.
Wow. Well, you know what Ryland's butt needs a mint?
Do you want to go get them one?
I have a feeling Ryan Reynolds is going to call and ask you to delete this.
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That was scary.
Was it refreshing to do it live?
Can I be honest? It kind of was. I feel, I mean, I love doing the ad reads in my office.
I have a whole thing. I have a routine. I get my Diet Coke. I set the mood. I light a candle.
I sit down and I do actually really love doing those. But this was a fun little switchup.
I don't know if I'm going to keep doing this because, you know, I do like our little special time.
But yeah, thank you guys so much. This was really fun. I was nervous about it.
Okay, well, we're going to take a quick little break. I'm going to go pee.
And then when we come back, not only is a conspiracy corner, but we have a true.
True crime from Sandy.
It's going to be a good one.
Oh, yeah.
See you in a second.
And we're back.
And oh, yeah.
Welcome back.
This episode is all about comfort.
Let me just say this.
I feel like this has been one of the most fun episodes we've ever done.
And I think it's because we didn't really plan it much.
We're just having fun, girls.
We're just chatting.
We're just yapping.
Do I look like I'm dying?
You've really gone off the rails.
You guys both look like you're like couples who like can't move out of the bed or something.
It's kind of like the grandpa's friend Willy Wonka and Chuck Blackery.
It literally is not.
Um, okay.
Well, speaking of just living our dreams, I switched up my location because my legs and my back started hurting so fucking bad from sitting in that spot.
And I was like, Ryland, please.
Can we just switch for the end of the episode?
Like, I just want to have fun.
And I know.
I probably look horrible, but I don't even care.
I don't know why you don't just get comfortable in this spot.
Well, because if I sit back too far in that spot, I feel like it's darker.
The lighting's not as good.
Oh, I don't look good back here.
It's darker than normal.
All right.
Okay.
Hey, what's it, me guys?
Welcome back to Conspiracy Corner.
This seems crazy.
Now that I'm actually doing conspiracies while I'm like literally laying down, it's a lot.
That's how I am your entire podcast.
How do you do this?
I'm just relaxed.
Okay.
Yon's a pun.
Now it makes sense.
This first one is Spencer, okay, he texted me and he's like, I don't know if we can do this one, but you need to watch this.
I was like, okay, guys, discount store really did start a trend, okay?
I don't know if they meant to, but using an item and then returning it back to a store and having it go back on the shelf,
it seems to be a new trend that is happening.
And this trend has made its way to, allegedly, Spirit Halloween.
No.
And it's worse than you think.
And it's, oh, so much fucking worse.
Just take a look at this.
I work at Spurter Halloween, and please do not buy animatronics, get freaky with them, and then return them to us.
What?
Anything I would ever consider it to be attractive.
But believe it or not, we have many men come in, buy an animatronic, use it for purposes, and then return it back to us.
Why?
When this has happened.
The store policy requires us to accept any amatronics brought back to the store as long as they're a working condition.
So as long as it moves in the same way it's designed to do, it's returnable, and we have to put it back on the store floor no matter what condition it's in.
Now, what do I mean by condition?
I'm not going to get graphic, but we, for our own sanity, clean out the inside of the animatronics because we don't feel comfortable putting them out on the store floor.
Residue inside of it.
No way.
If you're going to return your used and we're trying, please just do us the courtesy of cleaning it out so that we don't have to.
Also, this isn't just a men's problem.
Women, please stop buying our vibrating broomsticks.
No.
I'm returning them because, again, we know.
That's disgusting.
But why are they returning them?
Wouldn't they want to keep them?
That's the part that upset me.
Is this a comedy bit?
No, I don't think so.
It really isn't because he's so genuine.
Give me his day in the life of Spirit Halloween.
He's like, please.
stop doing this. I'm tired of cleaning cum out of moving witches.
And then they put it back on the floor. Did I hear that right?
Are you fucking their mouth? And is it like,
I imagine it's like trying to stick my dick in Frankenstein's mouth.
I will say, Franken has like a nice...
Franken, we're on first name based on.
We have Franken outside of our house, Frank.
And he is very, like his face is smooth. It's like a very soft rubber.
Okay, calm down.
Maybe we're gonna try fucking him tonight.
He's really idolized, Franklin.
And he's tall.
His face is like siliconey and soft,
so this might be-
touching him.
A nice place.
Okay, we gotta go.
Okay, he is tall and handsome.
Stop.
I'm just still mad that they're being returned.
Like, that's the first kink I would ever shame.
Are you kidding me?
Don't do that to somebody.
That's a lot.
Don't make someone clean out your jigs.
I wonder if they've been getting a lot of returns
on these animatronics,
and this is a way.
way to like embarrass anyone who's thinking about returning it. That's a good idea. Now if I'm at
Spirit Halloween and I see someone returning a Frankenstein, I'm like, you fuck that thing.
Oh yeah. And that's gross. You know what? Should we try it for a video?
What do you mean? We've been just by myself from Spirit Halloween. And we all just have
to go inns below and we all are looking at each other. Are you saying we have to fuck it or just
to return it? Well now Spirit Halloween is Spirit Christmas. Oh. Which by the way,
Yes, which, by the way, why wouldn't they call it the spirit of Christmas or Christmas Spirit?
Yeah, Christmas Spirit is so much better.
So much better.
Anyways, yeah, don't fuck Santa.
I return him.
That's sad.
Keep him around.
Or Miss Santa Claus.
Oh, no.
Oh.
All right.
This is disgusting.
By the way, the way that I'm laying down and talking about conspiracies, I look like the crazy uncle at, like, Thanksgiving.
It was just like, have you guys heard about 3D printed meat?
As you're fool of it
You know they're fucking those an I'm like
And returning them
Okay
I heard I heard people do that
I do not want drama with Texas
Roadhouse okay
I'm afraid of them
I don't know what they're gonna do
They seem they seem very like boutique to me
Like there's not that many Texas Roadhouses
I feel like it's almost like the mafia
We don't fuck with Texas Roadhouse
Any restaurant that throws their peanut shells on the ground
It doesn't give a fuck
I'm scared of
But we're gonna show this clip
Because I thought it was fascinating
This is pretty crazy.
What would you do if somebody fed you a steak that was pure mush?
Oh, inside of the steak.
Oh, it's like beans.
The state just turns to mush.
Oh.
You know, there's a reason why I don't eat out.
I just got a family meal from Roadhouse for my nephew,
because it's his favorite place in the whole world.
I put that in my mouth.
Oh.
I was going to hurl all over the place.
Look at this steak.
steak.
First of all, I don't need to put it.
It just flopped.
If they need to release a statement, this is sick.
Oh my god, what is that?
Is that moving?
It's like there's no sinew.
What in the world is this?
Okay, so first of all, here's the thing.
So the whole 3D meat thing and the fact that like, you know, major chains and, you know, grocery stores and people are now implementing,
allegedly having 3D printed meat or having meat glue or things we talked about on the show.
It really is scary, and I don't quite understand where this is going, especially like...
So is it vegetarian?
No, it's not, because it's made, it's like from like animal cells.
Nuggets.
Well, this is disgusting.
You know, it looked like refri-beens, but then it got closer.
You could see the chunks of the pink meat.
Yeah.
Can I be honest?
We'll never be back.
Why is it?
I kind of, the thought of, like, spread that on a biscuit.
I was going to say, the spreading ability for this on some toes.
is appealing to me.
You guys were sick.
A little hot honey.
They do have good biscuits, yeah.
No, that's crazy.
Texas Roadhouse figure this out.
I can't even look at the TV.
It makes me...
Yeah, I wish we could.
Okay, I'll move on.
All right.
This next one, so we got a lot of emails
about this Mandela Effect TikTok.
So many.
Before we get to that, though,
there is a Mandela Effect,
and I don't know if it's a Mandela Effect,
or just we're all dumb.
Yeah.
You didn't know something.
But check this out.
I'm almost 100% sure that they taught us that blood was blue inside the body until it hits oxygen and then it turns red.
And I just saw a video of a sixth grade teacher talking about why to her sixth graders think that blood is blue.
And my first thought was, how do you as a teacher not know that blood is blue until it hits oxygen?
And then I looked it up and apparently that was never true.
So now I'm wondering, because I could have sworn they taught us this in schools like, I don't even know if this is a Mandela effect or if this is just like misinformation completely.
Blood is definitely blue.
It's blue on my arm.
Yeah, you could see the veins are blue, but I don't think the blood is blue.
I'm freaking out.
I thought that's what it was.
I think the diagrams all showed blue.
Yeah, yeah.
But I thought the blood was red, but I don't know.
No, I thought the second blood comes out.
Yeah, it's research.
I've heard that from a lot of people.
Right.
Yeah, I've heard it a lot.
I do think it's maybe just misinformation.
Yeah, and what you find?
Now that I've researched it, it seems as though there is actually oxygen.
in your blood
while you're right
oh my god
you're literally right
blood oxygen level
yeah so I think it was just
misinformation
I don't know why
some idiot thought
it was important
that we all thought
blood was blue
that's hilarious
but it's really funny
maybe it was like an elaborate
joke like dude
I'm gonna see if we can get
a whole country to believe
this stupid fact
the blood is blue
and then like 20 years
we'll drop the bomb on them
it worked
wow
do you think it would be
I wonder if it would be blue
if you took all the oxygen
out of it
I think it'd be worth it to find out.
All right, guys.
Check out my new video.
Dying to see if my blood is blue.
Wow.
I'm clicking.
Okay, so yes, this was sent to us by so many people.
Everyone.
But let's jump into this.
This is Mandela Effect exposed in real time.
So I got the Berenstein bears.
Not Berenstain bears.
Wait.
Bearstein.
Wait.
It's an actual book.
What?
What?
Wait.
I also have the Shazam VHS.
Stop.
Stop it!
He's fucking with us.
He got me at first.
Last but not least.
It's paint, by the way.
He literally says it's not come.
Did he say it's pink?
He said it's pink.
It's not what people were saying before.
Is he going to show a fruit of loom?
Yeah.
If you guys can see the cornucopia.
Stop.
See the cornucopia?
He's fucking with me.
So Fruit of the Loom denies ever having a cornucopia on their sweatpants.
It's in a safe.
This is a joke, right?
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
So I were just like, I was like, I don't know.
Like this seems like he clearly just like printed stuff.
Yeah.
But so many people said.
and I figured we should at least talk about it.
If he would have stuck to just the book
in the beginning, I was there.
I would have lost my mind.
But then it felt like a comedy routine.
The second he started pulling all the stuff out.
The fact that he hadn't even safe.
Yeah.
It was kind of goofy.
Either way, I was entertained and I loved it.
Yeah, there we go.
Okay, we've talked about kids toys before
and how some of them are very creepy and dangerous
and could have like harmful things for your kids,
something that I never really thought about before we had kids.
Because now that we're in the kid toy world,
And we know what's out there.
Well, this started going viral.
Check out this.
Look closely next time you're shopping for your kids' toys.
You might notice a strange warning on the box.
We found one that said,
not liable for data collection.
What does this even mean?
Could it be a hint that the toys secretly gathering information
about whoever plays with it?
What?
Wow.
It was zooming in a barbie.
It was kind of weird that that box just had dates on it, right?
But it didn't have the date.
No, it just said like month, month, day, day, year, year.
Like, they forgot.
Yeah.
Yeah, I get that you put the music in the video, but it doesn't make me believe it necessarily.
You know, because sometimes the music really is 90% of it.
But I don't know.
I'm a little suspicious of this video.
Wow.
I don't know.
I mean, at this point,
feel like every single thing in your house collects data and it's scary and it just kind of is what it is
and we're not allowed to question it or be like we don't want this it just kind of is what it is
i also feel like kids toys are such a area where like the kids obviously want the newest toys that can do
the most stuff but like obviously these companies are going to try to collect data from it right i looked
into this a little bit and it seems like it's a real thing i agree with jared this video is a little
like it feels like kind of fake but from what i can tell is these are labels are a thing on kids toys so i don't know
if it's like certain states or something but it does make me wonder like are there toys that
are liable for data collection they did I don't know but maybe it's maybe it's well it's also okay
let's just say that the stickers are real is it the store that's selling the toy letting you know
the store is not liable or is it Mattel or whoever is manufacturing the toys right because
they would be liable because they're the ones that made the toy right yeah yeah yeah so I think
it's maybe more of the store covering themselves for lawsuits probably probably which is very
smart Walmart is very smart well guys have you heard of mall world nobody sounds like somewhere
I want to go I had never heard of this but the second that I watched this video it all clicked
for me and I was like I have heard of this I see this every single night in my dreams I know exactly
what this person is talking about and there might be a reason for that and if you know about this
there might be reason to let me show you this I dream of mall world every night
and I made a map.
Let me show you guys.
Okay, so this is, like, the full map.
It's not very complete, but we'll start at the mall that's attached to, like, a hospital and a school and a parking garage.
There's also the airport attached to the mall.
And then back behind the mall, you have the amusement park, water parks, and, like, the literal ocean cliffs.
You can see it through the windows.
You can see the ocean through the windows of the mall and the hospital.
Sometimes you can see this in the background.
Everyone you've ever met is here in the theater.
Wow.
You have like an underground market, which is different than the Baltimore, like a flea market.
Next to the parking garage is like a really dangerous playground.
And then you come to like the fairgrounds, the outdoor markets.
There's like cabins.
I feel like this is like a pitch to a billionaire.
Like I have a great idea for a mini mall world.
Then we have the big non-functional highway linking things together.
You got people camping out.
So basically, this woman posted this video.
And then everyone in the comments started being like, holy shit, this is mall world like I go here. I go everyone started connecting to this like I every night. I dream about this kind of thing and it's kind of started now there's like subreddits and like discourse and there's whole communities of people who every night they dream they dream of this thing and it's very similar like it's not exactly the same. But when she was mapping it out people are like oh my God. Yeah, that's there. That's there. And so it seems crazy, but everyone started like connecting with her on this stuff. So I've talked about it on this podcast. I have a very specific location.
in my dreams that I go to pretty much every night and it all starts at this house and then
the house is very specific it's always the same in the back of the house you open up the closet
and that connects to a mall in that mall there's a clothing store you go into the clothing store
and every time I go into the clothing store people in the store are just like how did you get here
and I'm like oh it's in my closet so then I walk out of the clothing store into the mall
and then the mall I go into different restaurants and stuff but then the mall will open up
up to an amusement park so it's it's a very connected place and my dreams always take place somewhere
in this location which i always was like oh well maybe my brain has kind of just created like a
map for for my dreams which kind of goes along with the whole simulation theory a little bit where
it's like oh maybe maybe that's the real world and everything else's simulation but i never thought
much about it until i remember asking ryan about and he was just like i don't dream about anything
like that and then i talked to you i've talked to other people and never was like i don't dream about
about a place specific like that.
Well, this is pretty crazy.
So in the comment section on this specific video,
somebody said, were you possibly in the program?
And the person who posted it replied, yes.
So then I fell down a rabbit hole about that.
They used to test us in the 90s.
At least, I remember being tested.
They would do a bunch of weird tests.
You should be hearing my voice in your right ear.
They are saying this is not a hearing test.
That is actually the beginning of a hypnosis.
What?
What?
That is very famously used by a lot of people.
So supposedly a lot of people that were in the program, which we're still going to bleep,
have shared experiences where they have this mall world style place in their dreams.
Others suggested it could be a level of collective consciousness accessible by those who participated in this program throughout the 1980s and 1990s.
There were even some who theorized that mall worlds could be a result of the CIA's notorious
MK Ultra Mind Control Experiments.
That's crazy, right?
Yeah.
It's weird that it's like uncovered.
Like this girl on TikTok just like uncovered this like connection everyone has.
Right.
And what if and this is crazy.
But what if in Mall World in my dreams,
what if other people that went through that program are in there?
And I'm shit and we're sharing a dream experience.
That would be crazy.
Which sounds crazy, but I just read an article that recently with AI,
they figured out how people can dream together.
Have you heard about that?
Like FaceTime your dreams?
You can jump into each other's dream
through this new AI fucking mind.
It's been 24 hours a day together.
Hateful, hateful.
But so people started putting in their, you know,
what they've seen in mall world and everything into AI
and it started creating all these images,
which is pretty cool.
It's like different layers, different levels,
the freeways that don't go anywhere,
the room full of toilets this one specifically of this mall with so many layers and so many
stairs this specifically i have seen so i don't know there's something there if in the comments
if you've experienced mall world please let us know and if you experienced that program that we've
been bleeping let us know if there's a connection there anybody else here experience mall world
we got an email from someone who does really yeah this is from jaden said i've been visiting
mall world for years now i would say i've been there ever since i can i can remember i'm 28 is the weirdest
place and every time i'm there i know where i am the streets are empty it's futuristic basically
goes on to describe as um i've heard people say you cannot ask people what time it is or where you are
you or you get told that you have to wake up now and get kicked out whoa do you guys ever when
you're in a dream and you want it to end what do you do i never want him to end oh because they
don't think i ever know that i'm dreaming so i would never know to end you know what classic is like
pinch yourself right that's like the classic is like pinch yourself right that's like the
Because I'm usually like flying through a forest or something cool like that.
Really?
Yeah.
You guys are so cool.
I don't ever fly.
Well, you got to try.
You got to somewhat be lucid and you got to know that you can fly to do it.
I rarely have dreams.
So wait, Jared, you lucid dream.
You know you're dreaming.
Yeah.
Yeah, me too.
Must be genetic.
I don't know that I'm dreaming and it's always terrible.
So it's always a nightmare.
Come over to my mall world, babe.
I'll save you.
Also, mall world is my nightmare, by the way.
To me, that's like just in a future where like we're so overpopulation.
that that's the whole world and that's my nightmare.
Whoa.
I will say, I don't know if I even brought this up in a previous podcast,
but I had a couple of nights where I had like horrible sleep paralysis.
And one of them, I was aware that it was happening.
So I knew that if I was able to wake Sandy up, that she would wake me up.
So I literally was going, oh, oh.
And she woke me and she's like, what the hell were you dreaming about?
Because it sounded like I was moaning in like, sexual weight.
I was nervous.
She was like, what were you dreaming about?
I was like, I was trying to wake up.
wake you up to wake me up because my dream was like so terrifying so you're welcome geez thanks
she's like i thought i was being cheated on but up until high school i had really bad sleep paralysis
and i would always like see the shadowy thing in the corner of the room and whatever and it's
terrifying yes it's the i had it the other night and it was so so scary and i was screaming so much
for rylan and you were there because we both fell asleep watching that
show. And then I had the sleep paralysis. And I knew that you were next to me. So I was just
like, who? And what's so funny? Because he never falls asleep on the couch. I was like,
I'm going to leave him there. Literally. He was like, he was so peaceful. He must be so tired
if he fell asleep on the couch. So I'm going to dip out. And I literally had sleep paralysis
for eight fucking hours. And I, you didn't wake him up? No. I like tiptoed out of the room and
like gently closed the door. I woke up. I woke up.
at 6 a.m. and I texted him and I was like I literally just had sleep paralysis for eight
fucking hours. I was screaming for eight hours in my head and you just left me.
Come back to our bedroom babes. You guys when you have it see like a shadowy person demon thing
in the corner of the room. Yeah, the figure. What is that? I don't know. Because like science explains
the rest of it. Science is like, you know, when you go to sleep, your body releases a paralyzing
agent so you don't like throw yourself off the bed during a nightmare or whatever. But when
you have sleep paralysis, your body's broken. It keeps releasing the paralyzing agent even after you
woken up so you cannot move you are paralyzed and then that causes you to panic and whatever so
all of that makes sense to me but science does not explain why everyone that has this sees a
demon shadowy like black dark figure in the corner of the room like science can't explain that
part so you got to get rid of the demon scientists hate this one trick well speaking of
screaming at your partner and they don't help you I have no idea what your true crimes
by the way, so I hope it's not that.
Yikes. Sandy, you have a
true crime. And I'm excited because I get to like
lay back and listen like it's a podcast.
Well, ironically, this does
have to do with a couple.
It has to do with Mark and Julie
Jensen. They're from
Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin,
a small little town. They met in the
80s. They actually ended up getting married
in 1984.
And then, you know, let's speed up time
to 1998, right?
So by then, they had their first
in 1990 and then their second son in 1995. Well, in beginning of 1998, Julie started to get
these really pornographic photos, getting mail emailed to her. They were being left on her car,
and she didn't know what was going on because at that time she was a stay-at-home mom. It's
like she was working somewhere. You know, Mark was a stockbroker. He was providing for them.
And she knew that somebody was going to her house because she would find them not just at her
doorsteps, but on her car, but also her patio furniture would be rearranged. And she knew it
wasn't her kids because they were too young and her husband wouldn't do that. And so her and Mark went
to the police to report it. The police went ahead and questioned them, like if they knew somebody that
would be able, you know, that would want to do this. And Julie confessed that in 1991, she was going
through really bad postpartum. She was really depressed. And her and Mark were having like a really
rough patch and she said that she ended up having an affair with a co-worker at the time named Perry.
And so the cops went ahead and investigated it and they realized that they just didn't have
enough evidence to charge Perry or anyone else. So they unfortunately dropped the case.
And it continued to happen. If anything, she got even more pornographic photos. And so they ended up
hiring a private investigator. And she was just really scared because she would go outside with her
kids and there would be somebody in a car and then they would take off the moment she would go
outside so then private investigator said listen why don't we do this why don't we track the phone
why don't we have somebody stake out your house so that way when they drop something off or when they
call we'll be able to find out who this is well magically it all stopped they stopped getting all of
these photos and so they went back to normal life but the neighbors described that it wasn't the same
before they used to be outside playing with the boys and you know doing yard work just being very loving together but now when they would see mark and julie mark was just really mean to her really cold he would tell her that she was a bad mom that she was a bad influence on their kids that was around august of 1998 well by early november julie started to feel sick she started to get depressed again she went to the doctors and told him you know i'm not having a lot of energy
so the doctor prescribed her some antidepressants and then just some sleeping medication to help her get
some rest at night. Well, fast forward to December 3rd, 1998, Mark got home after picking up the boys from
school and we went to go check on her. He realized that she was dead. And he called the cops.
The cops came and he told the cops, you know, she hadn't been feeling really well and she's been
taking this medication. I don't know. Maybe that has something to do with it. And so they said,
like thank you for the information.
We're going to go ahead and just search your home and grab evidence as well as the family
computer.
He said, okay, fine.
About four months later, Mark is with her kid, his kids, and he ends up going to the police
station.
And he says, you know what?
I want to figure out where are you guys at are in this investigation, like what's happened.
And so they took Mark back to their interview room, and they told Mark, listen, we went
ahead and ran the toxology report, no drugs in her system.
And he's like, they're like, and what we found was when we did an x-ray, her nose was like bent in as if it was like smashed up against something.
And he was like, wow, it's weird.
He's like, what we also found in the, in the computer was emails to Mark's co-worker Kelly.
I guess Mark had been having an affair with this woman Kelly and just expressing how he wanted to be with her and he didn't want to be married anymore.
And then they also found searches for anti-freeze and how to poison someone.
They also told Mark that the neighbor had submitted a letter that Julie had given them back in September.
And so the letter stated, if anything were to ever happen to her, question her husband.
Like her husband did it.
And she literally gave out a routine, like what multivitamins she was taking.
She said she would never kill herself because she would never do that to the boys.
explaining everything.
So with all of that information, they ended up actually charging Mark.
But because he was wealthy, he had savings because he was on bail for $500,000, he actually posted bail.
And after months, they just wasn't enough evidence to charge him.
And so that was it, right?
They went back to life, to normal life, I guess.
And it wasn't until eight years later, this gentleman, by his name is Ed Flung, was Mark's old coworker,
went to the cops and finally expressed to them
or confessed to them that him and Mark in August of 1998
went out for drinks after work
and that Mark got a little drunk and told Ed
that he hated his wife, that he hated her
and that he wanted to kill her
and that the way he would do it would be through
antifreeze and poisoning her.
And so with everything together
now with the witness, they charged him.
Oh my God.
And by then it was 2002,
He had married Kelly.
They had their own kid.
Everything seemed just like kind of normal.
And throughout the whole core process, you know, the defense was, well, his wife is just
trying to set him up.
You know, they were having it fallout.
And that's why she wrote the letter.
And throughout the whole process, towards the end, Mark ended up confessing to his cellmate
that the morning that Julie passed away, he ended up giving her her medication, but he also
So went ahead and put Anna Freeze in her orange juice.
She drank it and he was waiting for her to die.
But he told him, quote, she took too long.
So he sat on her and pushed her head against the pillow until she died.
Oh, my God.
And with that alone, they've clearly found him guilty.
And yeah.
And so now his ex-wife, because they ended up getting divorced, Kelly, ended up raising their two boys that he had.
with Julie and then their current you know their actual son so it's it's so wild how aggressive the
fact that he sat on her to kill her like that's crazy that's why you know you can just like get
divorced right well and and the crazy part too is that um three days three days before he killed her
Julie went to the cops and expressed to them like I'm scared of my husband like this is what
I'm finding I don't know what to do and they recommended her to go to a woman shelter
But she didn't go because she wouldn't be able to take her boys.
And she was nervous to divorce him because because she went through the postpartum depression
and because she was depressed and taking antidepressants, he went ahead and essentially threatened her
and told her, if you divorce me, I'm going to take the kids away.
And I have proof that you're not stable enough to take care of them.
Oh, my God.
So did they ever figure out who was putting porno everywhere?
No, they didn't.
But the husband during the interview process, because they're essentially trying to get him to say,
I killed her, right?
He said, I wasn't the one behind the photos.
He said, but I did keep some in my drawer.
So when I would get frustrated with her or irritated with her,
he would place them around the house to taunt her.
So I feel like if you're able to do that,
you're probably the one that started this whole thing.
And he started dating Kelly in August
when everything started to kind of really go down.
Wow.
But who didn't know, you'd just turn like such a psychopath and do that.
that's so scary it's so scary that people like that exist yeah and it's scary that like they fool you
in the beginning and then oh my god wow well good story sandy it's really yeah good research
i'm glad the kids were okay yeah they just said that she was a great mom and that she was
a type of mom that would like make Halloween costumes and bake and yeah oh my god well rest in peace
That's horrible.
I know.
Okay, well, speaking of great moms.
Yay!
Yay!
Which is Amira, who's going to be a girl mom.
Yay!
Yay!
Wait, hold on, I got to do the song.
Well, we just got a little pre-com.
A little pee.
Woof.
My camera action.
Ryland's recap is about to happen.
Rylans Recap.
On today's,
episode of the Shane Dawson podcast, Jared and I get into some hot water calling our significant
others snatched. I wouldn't say that's how you guys frame. Yeah. Quite the opposite.
The intention is all that matters and our intentions are good.
Sometimes our breath isn't. Something tells me maybe Sally is the type of friend to tell you
when you look bad. Hi, Shane. It's me, Sally. I'm here.
Hi, Sally.
You have, um, who has the bad breath today?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Oh, me.
Oh, no.
Spencer has the bad breath today.
I am, Sally.
Sandy quitter job.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Any incredible news.
Sandy quitter job.
Whoa.
Oh, Sandy.
What are you going to do with all that free time?
Make video.
Yay!
Subscribe it, Jared and Sandy.
Oh, ladies first, Sandy and Jared.
Sandy and Jared.
I'm curious to know what the thousand other options were.
So they're top secret.
We might still use a couple of them.
We don't want to divulge any information.
Travel agents.
Oh, that's fun.
That wasn't even one.
You just made that.
I don't like that one.
Texas Roadhouse sells mashed meat.
Mashed meat.
That is my balls right now.
now.
Well, my undies are
a little tight lately.
Oh.
Well, you don't need
underwear when you're fucking
Spirit Halloween, animatronic.
Or when you're pooping.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Ever feeling horny around
Halloween? Look no further than
Spirit Halloween stores
to find your next come dumpster.
Oh.
Maybe you want a hollow
thing for your weener?
Nothing feels better than Frank's mouth
It's so warm
You don't and take it back to the store
We're on first name basis
You bad, red fuck
Oh my God
Whoa
I'm just kidding, Spencer
I love you the most
No you don't, you always make fun of me
I love you Spencer
Sally is sassy
We cast our pilot
That's good news
Shade's making casting decisions
It seems like he has a full cast now
But he hid me during the auditions
He didn't want me to see that the actors are wasted me
And I'm better than them
Interesting fact
Yes
Yes, Jared
Sally, do you know why they say to actors
To break a leg?
No
So they make it in the cast
I had no idea
You just pour mind
Wow
That really did blow my mind
It was good
Oh, mall world
Ooh, some freaks go to Mall World in their dreams.
Others experience sleep paralysis, but normal people don't remember their dreams.
Aw.
I don't think that's true.
Feels like a little bit of misinformation going on during this recap, but...
Okay, Jared, why don't you take this one?
In school, did you drink the secret Kool-Aid?
Did you hear those beeps?
Now when you dream, are you going to Mall World?
Conspiracy today says the people in the bleep program,
I'm all experienced the same dream, and soon you could join your friends in there.
I think is Spencer live from Mall World?
Hey, Spencer, what's going on over there?
Hi, Sally.
Yes, that's me here in Mall World.
Yeah, I'm just down here by the beach, by the ocean, by the road that loop in front of each other.
And then also by the underground market, which is different than the normal mall.
All right, you guys.
Well, thanks for watching this episode of the Shane Dawson podcast.
Spencer's going to go brush his teeth.
Jared's going to go flick his wrists.
I'm going to spit on you, Sally, so you smell.
Sandy's going to go.
Sleep in tomorrow.
No, no, no.
None of that, none of that.
Chris is going to go butt crack hunting.
Always.
And Shane's going to film an incredible pilot that's going to get picked up to series
and get it for years and years and years.
Thanks, Sally.
Wow.
When Sally's nice, it really means something.
Don't forget to shop your Shane Doss Merge.
Shane Dasmerge.com.
Follow us all on social media.
Most importantly, Sandy and Jared on YouTube.
And Spencer and Chris and Rylin, too.
Bo, boo, boo.
What does this go up?
The 23rd.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
I have three videos.
I don't remember.
When are they coming?
I have three new videos that by the time this goes up will probably be up.
They're going to be the first three Mondays of November,
and they're all video starring Spencer.
Wow!
We're thankful!
Well, now it's just bingeable.
Wow, need a binge for Thanksgiving.
We got a whole turkey.
See you right here next week.
In two weeks on the Shane Dawson podcast.
Good night.
Yay.
Wow.
Can I just say that was a fun one?
That was a good one.
I love today.
You get to shop your Shane Doss Merge.
Shandasmerge.com.
Follow us all on social media.
Most importantly, Sandy and Jared on YouTube.
And Spencer and Chris and Rylin.
Too.
Boo, boo.
I have three new videos that by the time this goes up will probably be up.
They're going to be the first three Mondays of November, and they're all video starring Spence.
So please.
We're thankful.
Well, now it's just bingeable.
Wow, we need a binge for Thanksgiving.
We got a whole turkey.
See you right here next week.
In two weeks on the Shane Doss and podcast.
Good night.
Yay.
Wow.
Can I just say that was a fun one.
That was a good one.
I love today.
And yeah, if you want to see all the behind the scenes of us making this pilot and, you know, casting all that stuff, it's on Patreon, but no pressure.
And if I'm being honest, Spencer's the only person in the room that I haven't experienced bad breath from.
Wow.
Shade to everyone else in the room.
Wow.
Thank you.
So.
Okay.
All right.
We'll see you guys next time.
Bye.
I can't get up.
Thank you.
