The Sheet with Jeff Marek - 4 Nations Hangover ft. Shane Wright

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

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Learn more at Fizz. it and welcome to the week. Coming up in a couple of moments, Shane Wright of the Seattle Kraken. Shane Wright, 12 points in his last 10 games, 5 plus 7, 5 goals, 7 assists if you're counting at home. And going back to when he was scratched back in November, has been one of the hottest points per 60 players in the NHL period. Shane Wright is going to stop by here in a couple of moments on the sheet. Zach Phillips, you were busy over the weekend with a couple of Leafs games to handle and postgame shows to take care of. How many shows do you figure you do a week?

Between this and all your Leafs, fill in producing. Well I do pregame for every Leafs game as well. So you know 82 Leafs games, 82 pregames and then all of this. It's uh. And all of this. Like that. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. Yeah. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on.

Yeah, there's a lot. And a couple of big wins for your leafies over the weekend. Although Saturday got a little bit scary for you there. Hey, we made it out alive. We're good. That's all that matters. But! You know, everyone's rusty. You're getting out of the break.

The Four Nations hangover like I'm not worried I'm not worried after the sleeving goal. How many texts did you get saying? Oh, was that Austin Matthews man, too? Actually up you I just is laughing at it. I mean Come on guys, like let's let them off the hook here, it'll be okay. Again, that wasn't his fault, that was Brock Nelson with the misread, not Austin Matthews, but I digress. Enough about the Four Nations, although we'll probably

get into that coming up later on in the program anyhow. But there was not a team in the NHL that just decided to wreck the league more than the Washington Capitals who had nobody at the Four Nations, right? They just got arrested and then came back and dummied the penguins and then clobbered the Edmonton Oilers. Yesterday Alex Ovechkin with a hat trick, wrist shot the one-timer and the empty netter. And it's like why is Washington treating the NHL like it's its own personal beer league this weekend?

Just doing whatever they want to whomever, Sidney Crosby's team, Connor McDavid's team, doesn't matter. It's like they've come out of the Four Nations break angry. Like you know how the Oilers team, I was always fascinated with the Oilers team in the 80s. Because it seemed as if, unlike any team I'd ever seen before Zach, that team got personally offended if you scored on them. Like they got angry like how dare you? How dare you score on a team that has Curry and Coffee and Gretzky and Anderson and like how dare you score on us? Like that was a team that got personally offended when you scored on them. There's like that kind of arrogance that comes with it.

And then there was the Washington arrogance over the weekend where it was just like, we're pissed off. Nobody went to the four nations that we're just gonna dummy your league for it. Steamroll, steamrolled the NHL this weekend. Jeff, on that note too, with the caps, like you and I got to go and see in person the World Juniors and how many times after games, no matter who was playing, did we walk away

from games being like, wow, the Caps got a guy, the Caps got a guy and we came away like, wow, the Caps might have won the World Juniors. They weren't even involved really, but they might have won the World Juniors. I was like, they might have won the Four nations and again, yet again, nobody in fault, but they might have. Yeah, no kidding. Okay, you know what? Let's get to what's on the program,

because I don't want to get right to our first guest and then we have a lot of things to go over and listen, suspensions is one of them. And goals, I want to point out too, there's something very specific about that Patrick Kane goal that we saw yesterday. We're going to get there in a couple of moments. In the meantime, Daily Outlines,

presented by FanDuel, that is North America's number one sportsbook app provider coming up on the program today, should be a good one. We have a lot to get into and we're gonna start it with Shane Wright of the Seattle Kraken, as I mentioned off the top, on an absolute heater. Big one against the Float-O-Panthers Saturday, tough one against the Tampa Bay Lightning on Sunday,

but that's what happens when you pass through Florida. The NHL returns and it was a pretty interesting week with some teams getting clubbed, some teams dominating and look you knew it was gonna be a letdown, right? Like we're not gonna see Canada USA I know we're all tuning in Saturday saying oh man this is gonna be great coming off the Four Nations and here's a momentum and then you realize, you know as much as you look at NHL hockey and you say to yourself, mmm NHL hockey is really good then you see the Four Nations and you say to yourself it can get even better. I used to always make the joke about Colby Armstrong going to Crosby in the gym in Pittsburgh

Colby told me this story that he walked into the gym with Crosby when he first started with the Pittsburgh Penguins and Crosby's like working out harder than anybody. And he says to Crosby, he's like, is there a higher league than the NHL that you're trying to get to? Like, what are you doing? Like, we're in the NHL. What are you doing? Like, it looks like you're trying out for another league. Alright, so we will mention Showtime, the Patrick Kane goal, but there is one very specific thing and once I share it with you, you will not stop seeing it. I swear.

In the NHL, Jake Allen pointed this out to me a couple of years ago and now I can't see this specific goal without seeing this specific place where Pat Kane put that shot yesterday. Trevor Zygwist will have a hearing for the high hit on Michael Rasmussen of the Detroit Red Wings and the Anaheim Detroit game. We'll get into that. That's a phone hearing. That one to me feels and sounds very much like that is going to be a two-gamer if Zach Phillips, if that is indeed your real name. I got to stop saying that. If Zach Phillips, we use a comparable

of Andrew Cogliano and Adrian Kempe. To me, that one looked almost identical. But we'll get there in a couple of moments. Do we have Shane standing by? Yes, we do. All right, Shane's there. All right, Shane Wright from the Seattle Kraken is gonna kick off today's program.

He joins me now on the sheet. Shane Wright of the Seattle Kraken, how are you today? Thanks so much for stopping by. I'm great guys. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Hey listen, before I get to anything about, talk about, you know, Seattle, the heater you're on, I want to talk to you about Alicia Nassar as well and your own personal story. How much of the Four Nations did you wash? I washed all of it. I mean, they're obviously the game is really exciting and, um, I mean,

best on best term in international play. It's, uh, it's always fun to watch. So, um, yeah, I really enjoyed watching them for sure. It was, it was outstanding. Is part of, is part of you saying to yourself like, yeah, you know what? One day, one day, one day that's going to be me. I mean, yeah, that's the goal for sure. Obviously to represent your country on the highest stage at that level.

Um, and tournament like that, um, is, uh, is, you know, always a goal of mine for sure. And, uh, yeah, definitely something that, uh, I dream of, of, of coming true for sure. You know, I'll always curious of players point of view and, and players thoughts on it. You know, I, I came out of that tournament, you know, a couple of players like Jacob Slaven was outstanding. I thought Dylan Larkin was phenomenal. I thought Thomas Harley jumps in, in the pinch a couple of times.

And he looked fantastic. You know, Shane from, from a player's point of view, who like, who really pop for you? I mean, listen, I know like McDavid is McDavid, McKinnon is McKinnon. You play against these guys, you know, I'm in and out, but like, from some of the not headline names, who are some of the guys that really pop for Shane Wright? Yeah, I mean, guys like you mentioned, I think, I mean, he's a headline name, but a guy I always like watching is Matthews. I think just overall his game and the way he plays,

he really stood out for me. And then, I mean, yes, Slavin for sure had an unreal tournament. for me and then, I mean, yeah, Slaven for sure had an unreal tournament. Um, you know, Jake Gensel was, was a dangerous player as well. Um, I mean, you go up and down those lineups there. They're the best players in the world, no matter where he looks. So it's hard to pinpoint a couple of guys, but, um, yeah, I mean, everyone, everyone looked really good. Yeah. It was, it was a lot of fun and the NHL gets back to it.

Um, a big win against Florida, a tough one against the Tampa Bay Lightning. But on a personal note, you just continue to smooth the sale. You know, the tweet this morning, you know, your points per 60, it went back to the scratch in November. I think you're 15th in the NHL. Like very quietly, Shane Wright has been one of the more, you know, consistent and better players in the NHL. To what do you attribute this to, Shane?

I think just growth, growing in confidence and growing my game, I think. You know, at the start of a career, it's always going to take a little time getting used to the life of an NHL player and, you know, the day-to-day grind of it. But I think for me, just go out and play and go learning every day and really just enjoying it, really soaking in, be grateful for the position I'm in. And yeah, just go out every day and just enjoy it. Have fun. Enjoy the life of an NHL player and yeah, just go out and be myself and just play my game.

Okay, I'm gonna try to drill down this a little bit more. So Jessica Campbell, your assistant coach. So Alison Lukin just did an interview with her. It's up at the Seattle Krakens website. And one paragraph where you're a mensch, I just want to, I just want to read back to you in case you haven't read it yet. She says, I think about someone like Shane Wright. He's definitely a guy that loves to get on the ice early, stay on after,

and do lots of extra reps. And I think that's helped him. I think it's helped his belief in himself and I've seen that parallel come through Coachella and here in Seattle. So finding the balance of when you can push the player to do more but then also manage their energy, right? It's definitely a learning and a balance and just communicating with the player day to day. That's crucial. Do you have a comment on what Coach Jess said there about you? Yeah, I mean, I think I just like, you know, get an extra reps at practice before or after,

I think. It's, yeah, I think it's just something where it's like really, you know, a good time just to work on your game. You know, there's always little things you can be better at. There's always little things that you want to be improving on, whether it's just simple things, shooting drills or picking up rims or whatever it might be. I think just putting those extra reps before or after practice is always important.

And obviously we don't have as many practice times, don't practice as much as the team with how many games we play. So I think just being able to take advantage of the ice time you have and staying on extra and getting those reps is really important. What would you, I think our listeners slash viewers would be curious, Shane, like what would you be working on now? Like I'm always curious, like what an NHLer is trying to to polish in his game. Yeah, it's a lot of shooting drills,

just shooting from different positions, getting shots off quick, different areas on the ice. And then, yeah, I kind of mentioned it, but rim pickups, picking up pucks off the wall and making up quick play, or cutting back and making up quick play, is a position I find myself a lot in games. You're picking up a lot of pucks off walls,

a lot of wall plays on the NH you know, in the NHL. So, um, really, really honing in on those and really, um, you know, making sure you're executing those well and you can make the plays quick. Um, I think it was really, really important. You know, I was talking to one, I'm going to go in the way back machine with you here today. So this afternoon I was talking to one of your coaches from the old Don Mills flyers, right, of the, of the GTHL.

And I said like, what, what, what, because I used to watch you there. I've watched you since you were 14 years old. So I said like, what, like, what was different about Shane Wright? First of all, you were, you were younger than everybody on your team, but still. And he said, here's the thing about Shane. He said, all the guys at practice, they'd all bar down, bar down, bar down. Shane would be working on that shot. That's like low glove like above the pad like that impossible the impossible save for the goaltender to make. He's like all the kids want to do like the fancy bar down shots but Shane was doing like the shot that was gonna

work in a game. He said like that's the that's why that's the difference like you look at this kid then you say this is a kid that's practicing to be a professional already. Like at what point in your kid, then you say, this is a kid that's practicing to be a professional already. Like at what point in your career, Shane, did you say, you know what, I got a real shot at this. I better start practicing like a pro. Um, I mean, it's tough to like pick out a certain point.

I think just, just overall, the way I practice, I want to try to emulate reps. I would find areas. I would find myself in a game and positions I find myself consistently in games. I really want to work on those areas and practice and kind of find a certain theme where I find myself on the ice and pick out a few things each day to work on and get better at and simulate as

best as you can the kind of game like scenario that you might find yourself in. So I mentioned the Don Mills Flyers there a second ago and one of your teammates with, and that was like one of the best minor hockey teams ever, the country scene, phenomenal. And I'll always remember that final against the Red Wings and Adam Fantelli.

I think we all will, who saw that one. But Brennan Offman, your teammate from Don Mills Flyers got called up today by the New York Rangers. I always find it interesting that, did you know that? Yeah, Offman got called up today. I didn't know that. Yeah, he just got, well if you saw what happened to the Rangers over the weekend, it might not come to any surprise. But anyway, so he got called up. He got called up by the Rangers today and he's been lighting it up in the American League. And I always find it interesting that you

have the same birthday, January 5th, you're in 04, he's in 03. But like, would you still keep in touch with Brennan Hoffman? I mean, you grew up in minor hockey together, but that doesn't mean that all guys still stay in touch. But what you guys went through with Roy Pachonovsky and then all the wins and the tournament victories and all of that, I would imagine that there's like maybe a tighter bond with that team. Yeah, yeah, no, Brennan and I keep in touch quite a bit. I still talk to him a good amount,

ask him how he's doing and you'll see how everything's going with him, so yeah, I mean, he's still one of my best friends, still like to keep in touch with him quite a bit, hanging out with him in the summer and stuff too. And yeah, it's great to see him back out with the Rangers. Okay, to your game, so I mentioned like, where's all to see them back up with the Rangers. Okay, to your game. So I mentioned like, where's all of this coming from?

And I had Dr. Alicia and asked her on about a month ago. And first of all, she's way too smart for me. Like I'm treading water in the deep end as she's talking. I'm just like, I'm trying like not to embarrass myself whenever I talk to her. I've got to know her over the past year and she's a delight and like super smart. Without getting too specific and personal unless you want to, what are the things that Dr. Nasser has helped you with with your game? Because a lot of the athletes she works with will talk about, this is me pre-Nasser and

then post-Nasser. Are you the same kind of way? What has she helped you with? Yeah, I think for me, just like managing manage my emotions, you know within a game and after a game and stuff You know a big thing is just like, you know, if you know, you make a mistake you have a bad shift you Make a bad play or turn it over whatever for me. Anyways, I used to be you know, pretty hard on myself and You know get pretty upset with myself. I made a bad play or or whatever it might be. So she's really helped me kind of control my emotions a little better and just move on from that bad mistake or move on from a bad play or whatever it might be.

That's a main thing and just coming up with strategies to help manage my emotions. I really manage the stress and the pressures and all that. And she's been unbelievable help for me. Love working with her. She's, like you said, a wonderful person. manage the you know the stress and the pressures and all that and I mean she's she's been unbelievable help for me. Love working with her she's like you said a lot smarter than I am as well she does a lot about a lot of things and you know she's a lot of you know great advice for me and yeah I've really really enjoyed working with her. So is that like a pregame and postgame check-in is it like

a weekly thing? Like how does that relationship work? Because we had her on and then I had a bunch of like hockey parents when I'd go to the rink, you know, ask about her and what their kid would need and how often would you communicate? And I'd say like, I can't answer any of this, but like from your point of view, like how often would you talk to Alicia? Dr. Nass, right? I mean, yeah. No, I mean, she's open you, would you talk to Alicia? Dr. Nath, right? I mean, yeah.

No, I mean, she, she's open whenever we want to talk, whatever I want to send a text or call her, um, you know, we have, you know, bigger kind of, you know, zoom calls, uh, every, every two weeks usually. But I mean, I text her, you know, pretty much every day and call every couple of days, so, um, she, she's just here for us players. She's here for, um, you know for whatever we need, whenever we need it, just supporting us in any way she can. And she's always available to talk whenever we need.

Mom's trip. Mom got to see you score. How cool was that? That was awesome. That was awesome. Just having my mom there, having her experience kind of a little bit of a glimpse into my life and what I know what life is like here in the NHL. I mean, she loved it. She bonded really well with all the other moms on the team. She said it was one of the most fun trips of her life. So yeah, it was really, really fun having her here. It was a lot of fun. It was great. There's a special place in heaven for moms,

specifically goalie moms, but there's a real special place in heaven for moms in general, hockey moms. Do you have a sense of how much your parents sacrificed for you? I feel like I have a sense, but at the same time, it's like you don't really fully grasp just how much they sacrificed,

how much they really did for you when you're younger I mean Yeah, all the stuff they give up they gave up to you know drive me everywhere and you know paying for all the skates and all the hockey and Whatever it might be I think just putting me in the best you know position to to live out my dream and do the things that I want to do just so thankful for and it's, yeah, it's something that I know a lot of guys my age

or a lot of NHL players, all their parents kind of the same thing, but it's really special at my parents' victory. Hockey moms feel it more than anybody. Dads can still be a little bit gruff and still tough love and all that, like you've seen it before right we all have if you have kids or not you just you know like the hockey moms like they experience everything with their nerves right on top of the skin like every bad shift every dash you get on a shift like all of it like they

every dash you get on a shift, like all of it, like they feel it. When you started with Seattle, there was, because we all were wondering, like, you know what, like, just leave them, leave them on the ice, give them minimum 10 minutes, 15 minutes, like just leave Shane Wright, and there were the scratches and down to the minors and then to the World Juniors and to the Ontario Hockey League and the trade to Windsor and all of it. It seemed like, you know, if you ask Shane right where he lives, he can legitimately say, I don't know. I don't know where my address is. And I don't know where I live. Um, first of all, how did you get through that mentally and how much would you,

you know, lean on your parents, lean on your friends or like, who did you lean on through all that? Cause that like you went NHL, AHL, World Juniors, back to Seattle, into the OHL, and then the trade from Kingston to Windsor. How'd you get through that? Yeah, I mean, obviously it was a pretty crazy year, up and down year for sure.

A lot of different places, a lot of different teammates, a lot of different places, a lot of different teammates, a lot of different experiences and I think just you know try to you know accept and make the most of where I was and really just kind of focus in you know whatever team I was on or whatever you know position I was in or whatever role I had just be the best version of that and just learn as much as I could and just grow as much as I could as well and as much as I could as well. I just enjoy it, soak it all in. That was kind of the biggest thing I was telling myself. Just really enjoy it. It's obviously a bit of roller coaster of where I'm playing in emotions and all

that, but it was still a lot of fun as well. Shane, I just got a couple of minutes left with you. I got a couple of questions. I can't help but wondering, like when you were scratched this year and you sat and watched the games and sat with Ron Francis, your general manager for a few periods, as much as he can, what were those conversations like? Here's one of the best centers of his generation And people have compared your game to his too. Like what is that conversation like Shane? Yeah, I mean, he's obviously a wealth of knowledge. You know, he's, you know, like you said,

one of the best players of all time. And yeah, just be able to talk to a guy like that, bounce ideas off him, see what, you know, what he thinks about certain plays and you know, what go went through his head when he was playing and what he kind of thought head when he was playing and what he kind of thought about while he was playing his games. Just talk to him about my game and what I can do better and what I can do to have the

most success was great for me and it was really, really valuable talking to him there. What's Dan Balzma like for you? You know him as an American Hockey League coach, and now you have him as an NHL coach. Your thoughts on Dan Balsma, former Stanley Cup champ we should mention too. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I love playing for Dan, obviously, my second year here with Laster and Coachella as well.

And yeah, I think he just knows how to really motivate his guys, really knows how to communicate and get to his guys. And he knows what to do and what to say to get the most out of his players and get the most out of each and every guy on the team. And yeah, I really enjoy playing for him. And yeah. I'm gonna close on this one.

The hardest thing about being an NHLer right now is what? I mean, there's not many bad days here. I think especially as a young guy. I mean, there's not too much to complain about, not too much that I can be upset about. So maybe you guys have a different answer to that. But I think for me, you just live in a big reading here. different answer to that, but I think for me just living it will be great. Oh, I get it. Listen, dude, you're getting more money than you've ever dreamed about at this point. You have even bigger paydays on the horizon. So it's like, this is fantastic. But maybe it's more like on the ice. I can't help thinking to myself, here's Chainwright Center.

And I look at the centers in the Western Conference and it's a fricking murderers row, like of all these guys. Like one night it's Nathan McKinnon, next night it's Connor McDavid, next night it's Anselm Kopitar, next night it's just like on and on, Mike Shifley, on and on and on. Like from an on ice point of view,

like what's been the most difficult thing to grasp? Yeah, I think just managing all these different teams are playing against, you know, it's a, it's a lot of teams and it's a lot of games, you know, in a shorter amount of time. So, um, I think adjusting to how each team plays and, um, you know, different players are going against, obviously you're every single night, you're going against the best players in the world and, um, you're, know how you play and yeah but I mean it's fun. It's a fun challenge for sure. It's fun seeing how I stack up

against them and competing against them and battling against them. Especially as a centerman for me, you know, taking draws against, you know, some of the best centermen in the world is always a challenge for sure for a young guy. But yeah, no, I mean, it's good. It's good seeing myself, you know, up against those guys and on a daily basis. That's awesome. I don't know that anyone would describe playing against Nathan McKinnon as fun, but good on you. That's why you're an elite athlete. It's a good challenge. Listen, Shane, thanks so much for joining me here today. Really appreciate it. Continued success. You're on a great roll. 12 points in the last 10 games, five and seven. Five goals, seven assists. Keep it up.

Thanks for joining me again. I really appreciate it. Yeah, thanks, John. My pleasure. All right, there he is, Shane Wright from the Seattle Kraken on an absolute tear right now. You know, it was interesting, Zach, at the beginning of the season. And I remember listening to it, hearing Jason Greger say, I think Shane Wright's going to have a better career than Matt Beniers. And I know to a lot of people's ears, that may be like, whoa, whoa, it's not something you hear. But I remember, I remember exactly where I was.

I was mowing my lawn, listening to the podcast, and he said that, and I was like, finally someone's had the stones to say it. So I've wanted to say the exact same thing, but it's like, ah, don't need the grief about getting roasted about saying that he's better than Matt Bennear's, but like, game in, game out, like Shane Wright. This is not a knock on Matt Bennears at all, but like this guy was granted exceptional status for a reason.

This guy was a fourth overall draft pick and in consideration for first overall in his draft year for a reason. Like I'm, like you've heard me say before, like I don't cheer for teams, I cheer for players and that's's Shane Wright's one of the players I cheer for. I think he's a dynamite athlete in there. We're starting to see it now finally. One of the things that I thought was interesting that you brought up was I watched that OHL Cup game. I was at university and I remember my buddies and I watching that. Like it was this hyped up game going into it. You know we kind of heard about some of these kids going in. You mentioned Fantilly, Othman I think Brent Clark was on Don Mills then as well. Graham Clark, Brennan Othman, Brent Clark who else was on that team?

I'm trying to think of who the third on that line because it was right Othman and someone else. I can't remember anyway. I'll see if I can find it but I remember us like going in to watch that game or we were watching it at school. And there was part of me that I just didn't know like what kind of player Shane Wright was other than how hyped up he was. And I remember walking away from that game at that time, thinking that he wasn't the most flashy player who stood out. He's a pro like Fanteli or, but he was a pro.

That was the word that I thought of. Like he played like a professional. It was kind of nuts to see a minor midget, yeah it was minor midget, right? That's what the age was, play and be like, wow that kid plays like a pro. You know, it's like. It's called U16 now, Zach.

You can't call it minor midget anymore. I know, that's what I was, my brain was doing like the conversion and I was like, forget it. It's minor midget. It's like, that's what it is for now. But I remember being like that, that was a pro. That kid played like a pro. Yeah. You know, the interesting thing about that game too, and this was whispered to me later, in between, like somewhere in the first period, Shane hurt his knee. Like went into the boards and in between periods could barely even walk. And then by the time the third period rolled around,

he was like one of those pro wrestlers that does like the big Hulk Up comeback. And then by the time the third period rolled around, cause don't forget like Fantilly's Red Wings had them down four to one. And we were all like, holy smokes, like this is gonna be a major asset. This team's like 96 and 0 this year, like one of the best minor midget or as we say U16 teams we've ever seen and then by the end like Shane Wright just

took over. Because I don't think they lost the game right? Like they didn't lose a game that season. I think they lost maybe one? I don't think so though. I think they were like 96 and 1. It was an insane team. It was just crazy. It was a fantastic squad. I mean fantastic. Anyhow, I'm glad you got that. I'm really happy for Shane Wright. That's really good. Ryan De Silva in the chat says,

U16, make sure you're politically correct, Philly. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. Yes, that's my bad. Get on that. Okay. So, elsewhere around the NHL this weekend, what jumped out to you? And let's start with this.

Trevor Zegras hit on Michael Rasmussen. This to me is almost open shut. Like this isn't Sezekes on Bischl, which I kind of looked at and went, I wouldn't even give it a penalty. You know, this isn't Rempy on Grislick, which is more just one guy's bigger. Like Matt Remampy can't help being big. It's just, I'm big and Chris looks not as big as me and this is what's gonna happen. Just happens. It's unfortunate.

Yeah. Hockey happens. But this one to me is open-shut. This one to me is like open-shut two games because it is completely Andrew Cogliano and Adrian Kempe. Two games, two games to me. I'm fully accepting.

I'm not going to two games. So you're just going like precedent. Precedent, yeah. Yeah. Because the one thing, and I know, and listen, I know when I say this, chats get like, I'm just like throwing, I'm just like, this is like a protein shake

for the chat here, right? It's just like, I'm just throwing red meat into the chat. So have a look. So Rasmussen just looking, Ziegler's pop, shoulder to the head. Okay. Rasmussen's out. By the way, it's an upper body injury. I wonder what that could be. That's what Detroit announced. Upper body injury. Oh jeez, I wonder. Could it be his shoulder? Oh boy. Maybe it's an elbow Look at that. Yeah, okay, so That that one to me is open shot And the the the precedent that George peros is set with these is is two games no history although

Could we not make the argument that he's a repeat offender. Do you know what I'm talking about Zach? Yeah, I do cuz Did we find it? I went and looked for it. Yeah. Do you find it? Repeat offender. Yeah, here. Do you want to show it? This is why he's a repeat offender. Look at that. Villain. Goon. Trevor Ziegler smashing a camera in the penalty box. That's repeat offender status right there. Hey, George Paros, I want to see that in the video. Take that into consideration. He smashed a camera in the penalty box.

That's repeat offender. History, history of wires crossing. Yeah, clearly. That noted goon, Trevor Zegras. I agree with you on the two games, by the way, based on precedent. I got no issue with that. I was watching Morning Cup of Hockey this hockey this morning heard them talking about it and like

They were asking for predictions in the chat and I said to and I was seeing other people put different names I said to I agree with that. I saw you say to as well. I Would throw out there though. I think it should be more Because I don't I think you get down like the slippery path, like you get down a scary path here where it's like, you wanna make sure you eliminate this from the game and really deter guys from having hits like this and make sure they stay away from it

and avoid the head contact. Cause there's other incidents that can happen and you know, those things can come up here there and yeah you want to punish those but they're less common. A hit to the head like this can have some seriously negative effects down the future for a lot of these guys who receive them you know some guys respond differently like and you know you hope for the best year for Asmussen but like that could just be freak accident bang. That's the last time that ever happens for me. That's the last game he plays because he doesn't recover.

And I hope that's not the case, obviously, but like it could happen. The head is a scary place to go. I kind of feel like it should be handled more harshly, I guess, is the way I'm going to word this one by D Ops here I get it precedent I got no issue with the two but I just feel like if you really want to get rid of these you slap them with the five or something like that that's a direct shoulder to the head so I'm not disagreeing with you and if they want to get rid of it and by the way what I was gonna say into the chat like just throw a raw meat into there,

is the Department of Player Safety has been really consistent under George Paros. We can quibble about a game here and a game there. I know that everybody has a problem when it's their bull that gets gored. But generally, if you look for precedent, like they adhere to it. Now, if you want to change that, that's fine,

and that's cool, but that's not up to George Paros. Like the Department of Player, just so we all understand this, the Department of Player Safety takes their lead from the managers. And if the managers wanted these suspensions to be longer, they would be. It's like, okay, George, now we want the standard to change.

Like, Paros just can't go out and freestyle this and say, oh, you know what, I woke up this morning, I'm pissed off, I want to talk about this coffee, it's awful, and oh yeah, Zegras, yeah, throw a dime at him. We're going to start calling these 10 cents now. Here we go, boom, 10 games. Like, that's not what George Peros can do here. Like, this is the standard for the Department of Player Safety. If you want that to change, that's's fine but that's not up to George

just to decide on his own. Yeah now we're throwing 20 games at these guys. And I'll go back always to when Brendan Shanahan was the head of the Department of Player Safety when he wore the badge there was that preseason where he laid out like whoppers of suspensions for high hits. I think Brendan Smith got like 10 and the manager is like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, like what are you doing here? And I'm glad that we actually Zach, I'm glad we have a Trevor Zegris in, in this particular instance to use as an example.

And one of the, I'll tell you one of the reasons why managers don't want the precedent of like 15 games for something like that, because this isn't Ross Johnston doing this. This is Trevor Zegris. When Trevor Zegris is healthy and motivated, blah, blah, blah. Like he's a star in this game. And do you want, cause listen, Oh, if Etchkin is capable of this, Connor McDavid is capable of this. And if your standard is 15 games, then you're saying we're prepared, whether it's Ross Johnson, whether it's Matt Rempey or whether it's Connor McDavid or Nathan McKinnon, we're prepared to sit our stars out for 15 games. Really?

That's part of it too. Like this is Trevor Zegras, who I know things have not exactly gone swimmingly lately for Trevor Zegras and the Anaheim Ducks or nor for his career. But same time, like it's a star player. You want to sit down a star player for 20 games for a high hit when your precedent has been two for that one and that goes to Cogliano and Kempe the interesting thing about you know the story with that Cogliano here right? No well that was when he was on the Ironman streak that was that was yeah yeah and so and here's here's the thing that I always point at when people say oh that's just George Paros' buddy he's doing a favor for oh Perros played with this guy

He's not gonna suspend him or he's gonna go light Perros and Cogliano were really close friends and there were actually a lot of NHL players that didn't like that suspension Because he was going for the Ironman streak. He was going for the Ironman record and Andrew Cogliano could have like legit been the Ironman right now but Perros and good for him Peros said like I can't let my friendship with Andrew Cogliano cloud over What should be a two-game suspension like that's my job I'm not gonna not do my job just because I'm buddies with him and because he's chasing a record.

And Cogliano pretty much ended the friendship there. I don't know that it's ever been massaged. I think that there's still, I don't think that it ever got worked out. Maybe one day at a reunion game somewhere down the road. I don't know. But I still like that, that like completely ended the friendship and that was Georgia saying like,

look, I have to do my job. And even though we're best buddies, we played together on Anaheim, I gotta do my job. And that was that one. And look, I get it. And I understand the argument against the long suspensions and you know, I do completely understand and I understand the argument against the long suspensions and I do completely understand and I agree with that.

My only thing would just be, and I heard Colby arguing for the three. Oh, hold on, pause one second. John Bankett says, Cogs was on Chicklets and said they're good now, Jeffy. Okay, good. All right, because the last thing that I heard is that they weren't.

Okay, not that it matters to me, but for the sake of everybody getting along in a challenging time, yeah, it's good that they're buddies again. That's good. Sorry, go ahead. I just jumped in on you there. I just like, I heard Colby saying three and I mean, it's just one of those ones where I'm looking at it.

And it's also one thing I feel like a lot of people even forgetting this. They sacrifice salary in those suspended games, right? And that's a little extra extra punishment. You throw one more game on there and I know we're talking marginally here and one game what's that matter it's a little bit more you know it sends a little bit more of a message and I don't think you have to expand it to the 10 and the 15 because I do agree with you a hundred percent like you that that's the slippery path right you know

one day it's Ryan Reeves who does it, and then the next day it's Conor McDavid, and they're like, well, you just gave that guy 15. Like, what's this one? And you don't want that, can't have that. No, like the GMs, nobody's going to want that. But I wonder and kind of question or push back on at least, can't you tack on one more on that one?

And can't we just tack on one more game and get it to a point here where it's like, hey, we're really cracking down or we're really trying to get this out of the game without having to expand to the extremes. Just a little bit more. I'd give it all up for just a little bit more. Just a little bit more.

Speaking of morning cup of hockey, I thought one of the more interesting discussions this morning on the show, as Colby hacked and sneezed and coughed all over the place, he's playing hurt, he's clearly not close to being the broadcast professional that we're all used to, but good on him, always play hurt, never play injured. Taking shots at me all show along and last week, scoundrel, just a BU scoundrel. Don't trust anybody from BU, that's gonna be my new thing. Don't trust anybody from BU. I digress. I kid. One of the things that they were talking about was like you look at the injuries coming out of the foreign nations and the big touchstone

is Matthew Kachak and Paul Maurice was on a radio station saying yeah, he's gonna be gone for a while, but he will play this season. I don't know that I'm full of the warm and fuzzies when he say, oh yeah, he'll play some point this season. But I thought the question was interesting that Colby posed which was was it worth it? Like if you're a fan of the Florida Panthers, Matthew Kachuk, you're a fan of, uh, I don't know, Vegas Golden Knights with Shea Theater. Like there are players that got hurt in this tournament and now they're not available for service for their NHL team. Was it worth it? My argument is yes, but then I just look at things like from a capital H hockey point of view. This was great for hockey. As a matter of fact, if I'm the NHL,

the minute that tournament was over, I am going to all of my broadcast partners and non-partners and saying, we are going to write checks now to make sure you have our highlights on all of your shows and our athletes on all of your shows because there's a momentum with hockey right now coming off of this tournament,

the likes of which we haven't seen in a long, long time. How do we keep this rolling? I was listening to, one of my favorite baseball podcasts is Effectively Wild, and I was shoveling yesterday listening to the Effectively Wild pod, and they were talking about the Four Nations face-off and how baseball could do something similar to it if they

could at all. Like those games transcended hockey and have bled into other sports have bled into mainstream. If you're the NHL you do whatever you can right now spend as much money as you can, making sure that while hockey is hot, it's easily accessible to everybody right now to try to gobble up as many fans as you can, Pac-Man style. Just gobbling up fans,

just grabbing fans, grabbing fans, everyone wants in, you don't need basketball, you need hockey, grab whatever you can do. Spend the money to make sure that hockey is front and center. But then again, I say that from a privileged position of, I don't have a dog in the fight. You know, I don't have a team where like my star players is completely wrecked. Like Matthew Kachuk with the Florida Panthers defending Stanley Cup champions. You ever thought on that one? I use a willing combatant is the first thing I would say. I mean, I think it was worth it for the sport of hockey. I think

it was worth it for the game as a whole. You also look at the Kachucks and where they're at right now in terms of their identity and their brands like they became the face of USA hockey. Like that game on Saturday night in nine seconds Jeff, the Kachucks are the face of USA hockey. I thought, okay I'm glad you mentioned that. Did you see the ES, before the game last Thursday,

did you see the ESPN promo picture all over their socials? You know what, there was Canada vs. US with three Canadian players and three American players. Keep in mind, Austin Matthews is the captain. The first two players on the collage and Austin Matthews is nowhere to be seen. Matthew and Brady Kachak. Yeah. Those are the two that they're using. Yeah. And it makes sense, rightfully so, you're 100% right. Yeah, no, I don't know. Yeah, it's hard. We don't have the dog in the fight, but it's just...

You had the option to go, is the first thing. You also, maybe if you didn't want to play like that, you didn't have to play like that. Or there could have been some kind of, you know, mutual agreement amongst the players that that wasn't going to be what it was. But they've asked for international hockey to come back. You wanted this to be the case. You wanted to go head to head.

You wanted best on best. You've grown the game exponentially here. We're hearing shows like you just mentioned, cross into different sports that are stepping up. I think it was worth it. And I mean, yeah, it's tough to have these guys walk away with injuries like this from it, but it's the risk you take.

And yeah, obviously in the World's Cup of Hockey, it started the season. It was before game one. So you have a longer runway to get guys recovered and come back. But injury is a risk at any given moment. Whether you go to the Olympics next year, you could get injured and come back. You could get injured Jeff, mind you going to the All Star game and slipping down the stairs like it doesn't have to be on the like I I I'm being an idiot with that and you know

No, you know who could get injured at an all-star game like a legit There's only one position that if I'm a GM at NHL all-star game, I'm concerned tender goalie. That's it Yeah, cuz they got a they're like you could all over the place trying to make saves and these guys just don't care No one's back checking It's like the Oilers against the Capitals yesterday. I Think I've read a story yesterday or two days ago Just that a pitcher on the LA Dodgers had to call it a season last year Because he like threw out his back or something cutting

Making a salad like cutting vegetables to make a salad and he couldn't play the remainder of the season, right? Injuries could happen at any given point. For the betterment of the game here and the big picture and the personal brands of these players, I think that this is the best decision. It sucks. Oh man, Jessica L brings up Dena Lang, which she stepped on a stick that ended her. Yeah, absolutely. Sorry, Jessica, great call.

Great call. Great call. It happens. I don't know. It is hard though. Like I can sit here and argue this because I'm somebody who wants the game to grow that way and sees the benefit that it just brought. I'm not, you know, sitting in the GM's office of the Florida Panthers going, what the hell do we do now? It's different perspectives. But for the betterment of hockey it paid off. For the good of the game. For the good of the game. Who is it that just, I'm trying to go back in the chat here because there's some really good ones about drunk goalies at All-Star and man there's one great drunk goalie question or story out there. That one day I'll get confirmation on.

Okay. Although I think I may have already had it confirmed anyhow. Anything else? Grab your attention over the weekend. We saw some really interesting stuff. Oh, by the way, anybody watching Seamus Casey play for the New Jersey Devils right now are all saying Simone who? Holy smokes Seamus Casey look really good for the Devils. Well, I mean outside of, I was just going to say outside of you know the Simone Nemich getting benched and Sheldon Keefe having some interesting thoughts on the deep pairing.

Yeah, well holy, I saw that or like that. You know what we didn't see in Toronto from Sheldon Keefe? Comments like that one. Like Sheldon was pretty methodical. And I think for good reason because no, actually, I don't really know why, you know, nobody into the Toronto media ever takes anything and runs Runs it out of context here. I've never seen anything like that. It doesn't get blown out of proportion, but it's all that Whoa, tell them okay. You know what I wonder about I wonder I Wonder I wonder I wonder how many other may please Amazon series I

Wonder yes, how much was edited out? Because there's mics on the bench for all those games right? I wonder just for that very reason because the Maple Leafs just didn't need the grief. I wonder how much either the Toronto Maple Leafs or the Players Association edited out of that just because it's like you know what this is just going to turn into a this is just like the Toronto Maple Leafs or the Players Association edited out of that. Just because it's like, you know what, this is just gonna turn into a, this is just like pulling the pin out of a grenade and rolling it into the room, and we don't need that.

Because what just, you know what it's like, like something happens on the bench and a coach barks at a player, happens all the time. I would submit it happens every game. That if it ever, that if- Like the William Nylander stop crying comments that got lit up for months. Right? But what if it's the coach that says that? Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know.

What if it's the coach that's saying that? All of a sudden. That whole- I mean- But do you think that they learned anything from watching the response to McDavid lighting up the room? It makes sense. You know what I mean? Like they McDavid and the Oilers allowed that to be in there of him going, you know, he kind of went nuclear on the guys in the room in that in after that loss and saying we have to be better and kind of calling them out it's not good enough. That could have been something that was cut out and they said we don't want to show that we don't want to show him losing it like that. That worked in his favor. I thought it was a positive thing. I thought it helped McDavid. I really did. That's what I'm saying. I thought it was positive.

I thought it was really really good for him. I thought it was great for McDavid. Like McDavid has always been even going back to when he played in minor hockey, was always like a pro and very button down and conservative and say all the right things and don't cause any controversy. And then you have him just like lighten his team up. It's like, I thought that was fantastic for McDavid. I thought it was great for McDavid. That's what I mean though, Jeff. Do you not think that that's something there like, this is good for showing personality

and showcasing emotion Like we shouldn't censor as much as long as guys are gonna be okay with it But it's something I wondered if like the Leafs brass saw after and was like, oh wow that worked well for them Like maybe we shouldn't be putting a muzzle on things as much. You know the Maple Leafs and you know Toronto I know but how would that go? I know. But you know what people in Toronto would have loved though is seeing Auston Matthews come into the room and light the team on fire because the criticism that gets brought up here a lot which we're not gonna do Leafs Talk Radio but is you

know they're quiet and they don't care. Yeah. Imagine video came out of Austin Matthews coming in and exploding on the room like that. Ah, I wonder, I wonder what the reaction would be. I want to say that it would be overwhelmingly positive for Austin Matthews. There would be a hole in my wall. You'd be like the Kool-Aid man going through the wall.

Pretty much, yeah. Alright, we gotta get to a few more things here before we get moving. Boston Bruins. So Don Sweeney saying that that's it for Hampus-Lenholm. Not sure about Charlie McEvoy. I've written off the Bruins before. Like there are two teams that I always like, just when I want to write them off, they come back and do something you never believe that they would. Right? Like the year that the Bruins lost, you know, Bergeron and Cricci, no problem. Just come back and, you know, dent the league. Linhom and McEvoy is a different story here. And one of the things that I wonder about is if they

decide to pack it in for the season or their record decides for them that we're packing it in come trade deadline time. The one guy that I, and it's a long shot now, especially with a couple of defensemen out, but if you're looking to take that small step back, pick up some significant assets to help you. I was talking to one team who said, like wondered about Mason Louraille, who you may look at and say like, guys I'm even 25 years old, what are you talking about? But I said, I'm talking about like a return

that you can get. I mentioned this in my blog today. Like you talk about like a significant return that you can get so you don't have to go all the way down to do the San Jose, Chicago, Anaheim rebuild, which gets more and more painful every single day. Like you can look at the San Jose Sharks and say, well at least Celebrity is doing something and the frustration hasn't set in and all of it's

new. I had someone tell me last week, like look, San Jose is just one year behind Chicago. Like as frustrating and awful as it is right now in Chicago, San Jose will be there in a year, watch. Cause they're not gonna get appreciably better inside of one season. But I really do wonder about the Boston Bruins cause I can't like not with David Pastrnak and Jeremy Swainman there,

I can't see them just packing it in and like, all right, here we go, close up the tent, we're going full rebuild. It's gonna be small step back and then try to lurch forward. What do you think about making a blog? I read that in the blog. Yeah, and you shook your head at it? Like, Merrick, you eating space cake, what the hell?

A little bit, like I expect them to sell off here. I'm prepared for that. And I wasn't shocked to see that and see the comments after McAvoy was gonna be out for extended period and we're not gonna see Lindholm. like, Lora just feels to me like the guy that you want to be here for the future. I agree, I know.

You want to have young guys building into it. Like I could, I don't think that that, again, I'm young and learning Jeff but like that feels like the wrong kind of guy to go out. I understand that but all I'm saying is if you want to get a return that's gonna be able to move this thing forward quicker, he's your guy. But what's that kind of return look like? Who's, I mean honestly.

Player in prospect. Or player in prospect. So that guy comes in, they're a bit older, they've got some terms to their deal, that kind of stuff, The player that comes back. Yeah. Look, you're getting Hampus Lynn home back eventually. You're getting Charlie McAvoy back.

Again, like trade from your position of strength. Listen, all I'm saying is like, it was a conversation I had with one team who wondered about Mason Louraille. So I put it to the block. Like is that one team that can lurch things? The other thing that I threw in there this morning is how much does Calgary's decision about what they do at trade deadline depend on how Vancouver plays? And the other thing, I mean I should have thrown this one in there as well,

shouldn't the idea here be that the rebuild is done when the rink is built? That you want to sort of coincide this rebuild? Like I know things are going great for like, how do you say no to, you know, the Calgary Flames right now? Like this is like that season that comes out of nowhere and it's found money. But you have to be realistic about your team and the long term with the Codreys and the Rasmus Anderson's et cetera. But you want to, you want to coordinate your rebuild to coincide with the new

rank, like look at Detroit, right? Look at little Caesar's. All right. Like, look at our shiny new rank. One day there'll be playoffs here and now maybe this is going to be the year. And they do look appreciably better. And by the way, as a side note, how good is Mark Mark Ocaspar? Like every single game that goes by, I love my, I thought I loved them at the

draft and leading into the drive. I love them even more now. I love Mark Ocaspar. I'll take that guy on my team all day long. But like, to the point about the rink, like no one's no chance to go see that team in the playoffs yet. Rink still sitting there. Come middle of April. We got concerts. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, I know. So like, you see, you think they're kind of trending, you would rather them trend more towards a direction of okay, let's maybe move on from some of those pieces we were wondering about. All I'm saying is like, if you're- Let's get ourselves ready to move in a couple of years. Yeah, like if you're projecting out where this team is going to be two years, four years, five years, whatever it is, I'm guessing the idea should be that when the shiny new building goes up the rebuild is done Yeah, the rebuild the rebuild is over, right?

Like listen and there's a number of different ways you can do rebuilds Right, like there's the Chicago strip it down way the San Jose strip it down way. There's the Pittsburgh Penguins which hey folks, this is the rebuild. Okay, the rebuild is the main guys want to retire is Pittsburgh Penguin. I don't care how much PK Subban stomps his feet about it on ESPN. This is the rebuild. They don't want to go anywhere. Okay, so like Dubas is not going gonna spend assets throwing good money after bad in order to chase what? A first round exit. If it happens and you somehow make it in the playoffs, that's great. But the plan should be obvious to anybody who spent

more than a casual five minutes with hockey. These guys don't want to go anywhere. You want to respect your legends. They've filled your building and won you Stanley Cups. You want to do right by them, but you also want to try to build up your farm system and pick up assets along the way. I would make the argument that, I know we always talk about how the hardest general manager job in the game right now is Kevin Sheveldeoff in Winnipeg. The number of challenges he has to try to keep that organization afloat, and not only has he done a good job, he's done a great job of it, but maybe the hardest job is what Dubis is being asked to do with the Pittsburgh Penguins. Okay, so these guys have to stay because

they want to stay in the legends and we're going to respect what the legends have done for us, yet at the same time, you're going to try to remain competitive and build up the prospect pool. Here's the tip-off folks. That's why it was a seven-year deal that Dubas got because you can't say here's a five-year deal and spin your wheels for three. That's why it's a seven. He made the argument that Pittsburgh's got the toughest rebuild right now going. And Dubas is being asked to thread the finest of fine needles right now in the NHL.

But I digress. There's a number of different ways you can do it. I get that. And I do think that the one thing that we are learning is, man, this Chicago way is painful. And the San Jose way, this Anaheim way is so painful. It's so hard and you're bad for so long well not everyone can do the Washington way look what the Capitals just did you know I made the point in the blog a couple weeks ago you know she went GM of the year you know when she went GM of the year Brian McClellan it's not even a GM

but he made all those moves last year, pieced out, handed it to Chris Patrick. And now, like, this is voted on by mainly the general managers and a couple of media members. How do you not vote Brian McClellan as general manager of the year, even though he's not a general manager? Now, there is precedent. There is precedent for that.

2010, Dale Tallon was fired, I shouldn't say fired, he was demoted, he was fired. Well fired as general manager, demoted within the organization. And Stan Bowman took over. But that was the year that Blackhawks rejuvenate the Hawks, ended up going to win the Stanley Cup, etc. There is one manager, and Bricky swears that it wasn't him, but there was one manager that voted for Dale Tallent.

Even though he wasn't a general manager, but he put all that together. He built all of it. So if you're voting for the GM of the year, how do you not vote for Brian McCullin for that rebuild? He did like a three week rebuild. Okay, you know what? Eh, we kind of got lucky getting in.

Let's rebuild this thing. Brian McCullin rolls up his sleeves. Here's a bunch of signings. Here's some trades. Here we go. Long shot bringing in PLD, but it's worked. And peace out. Chris, over to you. You run this thing now. Yeah. You got this one. Yeah. Guy should be GM of the year. Stevie Y did that in Tampa, did he not? Kind of the same way with Julian Priesteseball where it was like he was the face and then handed it off and then they went and won the cup and he's gone to Detroit. That was an interesting one.

Remember when when Steve Iseman first went to Tampa when Jeff Vinick took over? I think Vinick's first choice was Lou. Oh really? I think I think I have that I think I should probably check on that but I'm pretty sure that Lou was the desired initial manager for Vinik. And then I know he really wanted Eisenman, but I don't think Eisenman wanted to leave Detroit. I think it was just a matter of like, how many zeros do you want me to put on this check?

Like, where do you want the decimal point? Did it get to a point where you're just like, okay, I gotta do this. And he did a great job, but then pieced out and left the whole thing to Julian Brizbois. Who, by the way, has done a great job. And again, I got talked about two teams I never bet against, I never write off.

Boston's won, but maybe a bigger one? Tampa. Yeah. And do you wanna face Tampa? Stephen Stamkos. See you later. Okay. We're good. So good to have you. See you later. Oh, we're still good. We're still good. Oh yeah, we're bringing back like old man Ryan McDonough. And by the way, he's still awesome.

And by the way, speaking of Tampa, Anthony Cirelli on the show on Wednesday. Who, who scored the last goal ever in, all you old school hockey fans, the Coliseum, at the Memorial Cup as Anthony Sorrelli's Oshawa Generals beat Leon Dreisaitl's Kelowna Rockets? Who went to my high school? Leon Dreisaitl went to your high school? Did you go to high school in Manhunt? Anthony Sorrelli, Anthony Sorrelli. He did, no way, eh?

What's that? Yeah, he went to my high school. And your high school is? Anthony Cirelli. He did? No way, eh? What's that? Yeah. Yeah, he went to my high school. And your high school is? Bill Crothers. That's where my kid goes. That's where my oldest boy goes. So Bill Crothers put a big picture out on social about Anthony.

Anthony Cirelli from Bill Crothers brings home the gold for Canada. Yeah, my oldest son goes there. Morgan Frost also went there. Oh, did he go there too? Yes, he did. Did you play on the hockey team there? Trying to think. Oh, did he go there too? Yes he did. Did you play on the hockey team there? Trying to think. Yes I did.

Went to OFSA. Who was on your team? Who was on your team? Anyone notable? Did Robert Thomas go there? No, Robert Thomas did not go there. Trying to think like who was on there that went and did anything.

It was mostly our buddies that were all playing midget hockey there in Markham, so I don't think any of us ended up graduating on. Couple buddies I went and played to CCHL. One of my friends, Hudson Lambert, played for Canisius College. I'm trying to think about anybody else. I think that was pretty much it for us for that year,

that one. So a couple of things in the chat. Little Willie Stiles, Ryan McDonough was my neighbor. Let's do that show one day. Hockey players you grew up near. I got a bunch when I was in Toronto growing up. Stan unplugged the fax machine. Oh geez. That's how Dale got it, right?

He didn't send the QOs out on time. I know. Even though the big conspiracy at the time was, if any way, that's an AGM job, setting out the qualifying offers. I don't know. Do what you want with that conspiracy theory that goes all the way back. Still talking about that. Man, this chat does not forget. No, I know.

Dale Tallon built the dynasty, Tommy T. This chat does not forget. Wow. Also, by the way, on that Shane Wright team, some of the guys that were drafted, Francesco Arcuri, Roman Schmidt. Who are the brothers on that team? There were brothers that ended up playing at North Bay. Who are the brothers on that DMF team? This is really fascinating on the show, by the way.

Going through all Don Mills Flyers U16 lineups. Brothers, brothers, right? I'm just reading it. Shane Wright, Brennan Othman, Brent Clark, Francesco Arcuri, Alex Christopoulos, Cole Eichler. Christopoulos boys Brent Clark Francesca Arcuri Alex Christopoulos Cole I thought this voice I think it's both two Christopoulos boys yep there he is yeah this is the other one yeah and they're playing in North Bay whoo still got it yeah I still got it out of way Alex Christopoulos 93 points and 43 games played good lord all right a couple of

things a couple of things I want to mention here. Before we start to go down the rabbit hole of the 03 Don Mills Flyers teams. By the way, this year's Don Mills Flyers U16 team, again, and those guys used to always go and watch Shane Wright's team. There's like great pictures of like all those all the all those 03 Dom Mille's flyers with all the team The Dom Mille's flyers team that exists now in U16 and it's adorable like all these like little kids like idolizing Othman and now they're juggernauts anyhow, okay Canada your favorite contest is back

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No My dad sitting at home laughing at that. I am At a boy Papa Phillips, you know, what's up? I'm amongst the heathens here with your son doesn't like culture doesn't like musical You ever see Oklahoma? sound of music No, yes West Side story music all these greats Music, no, West Side Story, all these greats. And later, the Vegas Golden Knights face off against the Los Angeles Kings.

Do you wanna see that in the opening round, by the way, or do you wanna see Edmonton and Los Angeles again? I kinda wanna see Edmonton, LA again. You do, eh? I'm just, there's, yeah, like I'm a little bit of a sicko and I feel like you build it up and it goes again and again and it's like, ah, you know the oilers There's this easy walk through the Kings like no give it to me again You know why?

You know why they were the sicko brain comes from too, you know We run into every year as Leafs fans the Bruins and I've gotten to the point here now where it's like Give it to me. Give me the Bruins in the first round. Not because I think it's an easy opponent or anything like that, but it's just like, let's break through the wall. Let's take them down if we finally can. I want rivalries. I want the hatred. I want to go up against that team.

Give me the Oilers. Give me the Kings first round. That's what I want. I love the fact that I just brought up the Vegas Golden Knights and Los Angeles Kings and inside of a cozy 15 seconds, it became all about the Maple Leafs and the Boston Bruins. It's not hard for me to find a way back to that. Zach Phillips, you're a nice bunch of guys. Zach Phillips, you're a nice bunch of guys. Speaking of Vegas, by the way, and again, like around this time of year, I always, and

I do this in the blog too, I always sort of remind people to be cautious about it and not necessarily read too much into it but last five Buffalo Sabres games have been two Vegas scouts each game. Discuss amongst yourselves. I don't think it's because they want Peyton Krebs back. Discuss amongst yourselves Yeah, I know I know you brought that up I think last week and then I Continued it can you continued again this weekend? I get an over some two more Vegas goats here. Oh Really five games in a row, you know? Hmm, okay.

Yeah. Yep. Trade deadliner. Can I ask you this, actually? Just quickly, here, your thoughts. Shoot, yeah. I think it's on the weekend Saturday, I think it was, that guy that you know,

I think his initials are like EF or something like that. He mentioned something about the Shens, and wondering if teams out there would have interest in uniting the Shens. Yeah I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. I mean you can, I think this is not intentional but I heard them talk about it on Morning Take, this morning leaves Morning Take. Here's why, here's why, but here's why. Here's why that makes a ton of sense. Mark Bergevin would always have the line, there are players that get you there and

there are players that get you through. There are players that are great 82 games and then there are players that are great as you shoot for 16 wins. And as we see every year in the playoffs and this is where like we'll always go on about like what Matthew Kachak means to you in the playoffs. And this is where like, we'll always go on about like what Matthew Kachuck means to you in the post season, what Brady Kachuck could mean for you in the post season, what Sam Bennett means for you in the post season, like these types of guys, right?

Luke Shen's built for playoffs. Braden Shen's built for playoffs. And if you're a team that has the need for a center and a defenseman, and you have, and you can make it happen, why not? First of all, there's a showbiz of it. And I think the smart general managers always understand that they're in the entertainment business. Um, but why not? I could,

I could completely see that. And if, first of all, it makes a ton of hockey sense for one these are guys you want these are the kind of guys that you want to get if you're planning on having a run I do find it interesting to see hearing all the conversation around Jordan Bennington now now that all of a sudden the game against the United States has taken Jordan Bennington to an entirely new level even though like Jordan Bennington has been a really good goaltender for a while. And he's kind of buried with the, with the St. Louis blues.

Um, you know, but there are times where, you know, this is a guy that even though he wasn't going to win the Vezin trophy, you know, should have had like, and did get some consideration for it. He's just done it on the most magnificent stage that we've seen in a while. So now all of a sudden Oilers fans like, well, how did we get Bennington here? And that's another story right now. The playoff started today. Who's your starter for the Edmonds and Oilers? It's a great one for Tyler Uremtrak right now. I know, I tuned into Aaron Bordato on Oilers Nation after Doug talking about it the other day and they're like, what do you do? Like, what do we do right now?

Because Skinner goes in and there's times where they're like, oh, it's not really his fault. Team wasn't that great in front of him. And then there's times I tune in and it's like, Aaron's on there on the Oilers nation show being like, this guy lost us the game tonight. Like he was not very good. That goal was all on him. This play, like, not providing confidence. It's one of those weird things too, right? Because that's a conversation that's come up about him. And then guess what? He was one game away from that conversation being completely erased from the internet last year. I know. I know. I know. It's weird. You're one game away and Skinner was real good. But then still, like, no matter what. And I get it, like, he got them right there again. But then, like, the cynical side of me says, like,

okay, so Michael Layton did the same thing for the Flyers in 2010. I know, I know. Like, there's still going to be that, like, we talked about with Bennington, right? It's, you know, during the tournament, there was a Jake Ansell goal. There's Adrian Kempe goal There's the SL and L goal We all said I wonder if Canada in the back of their mind are thinking we're starting this game down one nothing Because there's gonna be that goal and that goal didn't happen like if anything like Bennington won them the game By keeping that he was so I don't want to make it sound like I'm just like Jordan Bennington Like you hate club like it's it's not that at all.

As a matter of fact, it's the opposite. And I was the one banging the drum, you know, with Jacob Markstrom a couple of years ago with the Vezna. Like, that's how good Bennington was. But in the tournament, there was always the one bad one. But with the Edmonton Oilers now, it's like, you don't want all of that work by McDavid. You don't want all of that work by Dreisaitl saddle and Hyman and nurse who's been really good this year

as you make all of them like you don't want that all undone because the goalie is hard to hit. Well, the sickening feeling is like, oh, he does it in the playoffs. And it can be for anybody like I don't care. I'm not just talking about Skinner or goaltending but like, oh, that that defenseman he shows up in the playoffs. care, I'm not just talking about Skinner or goaltending, but like, oh, that defenseman, he shows up in the playoffs. Whew, well, he's not being very good for 82. And you know, it's like relying on that guy

to flip a switch game one. I know that we've seen them do it or whoever it may be do it anytime, but it's like, do you really want to go into the playoffs being like, he's gonna show up tomorrow. I don't, you know what, I'm comfortable, I was comfortable, I'm gonna date myself here, I was comfortable saying that about Claude Lemieux who like regular season wouldn't piss a drop. He's like, don't worry, it's fine, playoffs are coming, he's gonna be fine and the playoffs starting Claude Lemieux is awesome. It's just like, that's his season, that's where he plays and you're cool with it. But Claed Me was not a goaltender. Clothed Me wasn't a goalie like no I need I just like in the back of my mind I'm

just like and add this one to the Oilers issues now again like this thing rears its head just when you think just what do you think you might have solved it last year getting to game seven now you still're still playing Whack-a-Mole. Like, oh crap, the goalie problem. Oh crap, the D problem. I know. Here's a question for you that's interesting on that. Because I didn't even connect this until right now.

Jeremiah in the chat points it out. Do you think the Blues would make a move with Edmonton? What do the Oilers have to trade for good players? My question is not even about do they have to trade? Yeah, the offer sheet, do you think they'd make a move? Smart general managers will stomp and like, okay, yeah, you stole two players off us for pennies on the dollar, but if it can help your team,

you gotta put that behind you. Jeremiah also mentions, Clued to Mew would be a $10 million player right now, considering what he does in the playoffs, hard to dispute. Considering how money that guy is. Yeah, cough, cough Sam Bennett, cough, cough. Cattle auction.

I know. Cattle auction for Sam Bennett. Watch. July 1st. And I mean, look, I would pay for what that guy does in the postseason. That's probably another example of that is like the colonial Mew or you look at a guy in his regular season production, but man, you get a guy like that making an impact on a game when it matters the most and things tighten up and his ability to make an impact

like we saw in the finals. Yeah, I'll pay out the ass to make an impact like we saw in the finals. Yeah, I'll pay out the ass to get a guy like that on my team. Finally, really quickly, Kevin Weeks over the weekend mentioning the offer to Mikko Ranton in 13 to 14 million dollars. A-A-V. We'll pick up that conversation when the show picks up

again tomorrow at three o'clock. One thing I do want to mention before we go off here, and that is the email, which we've been very bad with. We've been just awful with it, but reminding you that the email, and you know a lot of shows will say like, oh just be economical, only a couple of sentences, you know, don't ask the host how he is, he's fine, just ask your question and get off the... No, no, no. You want to write like one piece, you want to write a big long one, go for it. We'll read all of it. Don't worry and we'll pick out the good stuff.

Just make your points and happy to get it here. The email for the show and we should really start to promote this better. Philly as Ryan DeSoto calls you. The sheet at thenationnetwork.com and I know that Zach was prepared for this, was a fancy graphic for it. You can put that up now, Zach. Yeah, it's in chat. The sheet at thenationnetwork.com. All right, anything to add, Zach, before we punt for the day?

By the way, wanna thank Seattle for making Shane Wright available today. That's very generous of them, and thanks to Shane for his time. Anthony Cirelli on the show on Wednesday. Final thought to you, got anything? Great show today, thanks to Shane for joining, and very, very considerate of you

to give Wish like four days to collect himself and stop crying before he came on the show next. Very considerate of you. Is he coming on tomorrow or is he still, is he still on his fainting couch somewhere in New York? He's cowering away somewhere in a dark room in a fetal position. Sucking his thumb.

It's 2010 all over again. We beat them in the round robin. They always do this. Why does this always happen Okay He's gonna be an easy knock. I can't wait to see what he's gonna say tomorrow. I just I'm excited tomorrow Greg Wyshinski Wednesday Anthony Cerelli Bill Carruthers and also the Tampa Bay Lightning and team Canada the the gold medalists. On behalf of everyone here at the crew, on behalf of everyone here at Nation Network,

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