The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Andersson Traded to VGK, Sanderson Comments, & Sherwood Traded Live ft. Pierre McGuire

Episode Date: January 19, 2026

Jeff Marek is joined by Pierre McGuire for a wide-ranging edition of the show that touches every corner of the hockey world. The two break down the Rasmus Andersson trade to the Vegas Golden Knights and why Vegas continues to dictate the defensive market in the Western Conference, while also exploring what this move means for Calgary’s long-term direction. The conversation shifts to Chris Drury’s letter and the ripple effects surrounding the New York Rangers, including Artemi Panarin’s future and the challenge of retooling a fractured room. Breaking news hits mid-show with Kiefer Sherwood being traded to the San Jose Sharks, sparking a discussion on Vancouver’s dominoes. Plus, Jake Sanderson’s candid goaltending comments, Jason Robertson’s agent switch, a record-setting PWHL crowd in Washington, and a heartfelt remembrance of Phil Goyette close out a packed episode.SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

You know, one of the nice things about doing a show like this when we're not confined to the authority of time. Like, if I were doing a radio show right now, it'd be like, how are we going to squeeze all this into an hour? I don't have to worry about that. It's especially good. We have someone who knows a lot about a lot of different things as our guest today, as you're about to find out.

We've got trades. We've got defensemen lipping off. We've got GMs releasing letters. We've got superstar players on the market. And we have superstar players changing agents, i.e., get something done for me now. Let's get right to the program here. The Blueprints is powered by Fanduel. Download the app today and play your game on Fanduel.

Coming up in a couple of moments, the one and only Pierre McGuire, one of the amongst the many wonderful things about having Pierre on is he's able to go anywhere and everywhere. And that is one of the days we have today, folks. We'll talk about Raz going to Vegas and we'll ask why there is a straight line that we can draw between those two markets, it seems, specifically around defensemen. We'll talk about Senator's goaltending and we'll talk about Jake Sanderson's comments on Senator's goaltending situation, which it's not wrong. I don't know that it's helpful, but it's not wrong. We'll talk about Jason Robertson, now X of CAA going to Octagon. We'll talk about the PWHL setting a new attendance record in the United States.

yesterday in Washington, and we will spend some time remembering the career of Phil Goyette, not just the hockey player, but the person as well. That's coming up a little bit later on. In the meantime, we'll bring aboard Pierre McGuire, someone who needs no introduction. And on a day like this, Pierre, you are come on d'A en francailla, premier it, because we are going to bounce around everywhere. First of all, great to see you again, my friend. It's great to be aboard with you.

We'll jump right in with, before we get to the actual trade itself, Frasmas Anderson from the Calgary Flames to the Vegas Bowl, the Knights. I don't know that there's a direct train that goes between the two, but it seems like there is certainly when it involves defenders. Do you have a thought on this? Sometimes general managers get comfortable with other general managers and they don't have to play a lot of games with them. You know, I remember when Glenn Sather was running Edmonton and Harrison was running Boston.

And there were a lot of different players going both ways, including goaltenders. I mean, Andy Moog left Edmonton, Billy Ranford left Boston. So, you know, there were a lot of trades that went on back then between those two guys in particular. I know Bill Torrey had the late Bill Torrey had a lot of favorite trading partners when he was with the New York Islanders. So I think sometimes general managers get comfortable with one another. I thought it was interesting that Rasmus and Anderson ended up in Vegas, Jeff, I'm not going to lie to you. It's a tremendous acquisition for Vegas. I think it's going to force a bit of an arms race now in the West.

Colorado probably want to do something now. Dallas has to do something now. They have to do something now. So it's going to be interesting to see how all everything shakes out. You know, Minnesota kind of fired the first shot by going out and getting Quinn Hughes, and it's worked out very, very well for him. By the way, I'm just giving a little subtle plug here. I know everybody's got their favorite coaches.

The job that John Hines has done in Minnesota this year, coaching that team with Jack Capuano. Those guys have done a masterful job. I don't think people realize the injury situation that Minnesota's faced this entire year, and they've handled it fantastically well. Dave's done a great job. Like there's a number of coaches,

just as a quick aside. I think we're all, you know, wondering if this could finally be the year for John Cooper in Tampa to win the Jack Adams. I mean, you just mentioned the Colorado Avalanche with Jared Bednar. I don't know that Todd McClellan

is getting enough love or a consistent. consideration considering what he's done with the Tred Red Wings. But you're right, like John Hines, like right from the beginning of the season, the work that him and Capuano, as you mentioned, have done has been nothing short of, nothing short of outstanding. And I don't think that his manager, Bill Guerin, is done putting more bullets in his chamber for the playoffs. So we'll stand by to see what happens there. Okay, so it was previously Hanifan, and now it's Rasmus Anderson,

not to beat the Calgary issue too much. to death here. I want to get to the Calgary side of this. But from a, from a Vegas point of view, you know, they used to always say, and the evidence is right there before us, whenever Chris Pronger left the team, that team struggled. And I can't help but thinking the same thing and seeing the same thing with Alex Petrangelo. When he left the St. Louis Blues, they've still, to this, day, they have not been able to get anywhere close to what they were when they had Alex Petrangelo. and now because of the injury, Petrangelo is no longer with the Vegas Golden Knights. I don't think it's too difficult to look at this situation and say this is all in service

of the Vegas Golden Knights having lost Alex Petrangelo. What a great point and very true. I'm still surprised, and I've known Doug Armstrong a long time, knew his late father too, that they chose not to sign Alex Petrangelo in St. Louis and went in a different direction. And obviously, they're allowed to do whatever they want. It's their team, and Doug's done a masterful job there. But you see the impact that Alex had once you got to Vegas. It was phenomenal.

And they win a Stanley Cup. They're relevant every single year. George McFeed deserves a huge amount of credit. Kelly McCriman deserves a huge amount of credit. They're pro scouts definitely have the market figured out in terms of organizational strengths and weaknesses for the Vegas Golden Knights. And, you know, you look at the addition to Noah Hanifin. Now you look at the addition of Rasmus Anderson.

Shea Theodore is a left shot. He can play left to right south. they're just so deep. They continually go for every single year. I have so much respect for how George and Kelly do their business there in Vegas. You know, and they've done this all too. They still have another bullet in the chamber in Trevor Connolly. You know, it's not like, okay, so they're giving away picks.

Like, we're used to that, right? Like, hello Montreal Canadiens. You got Nick Suzuki, but it's like everybody. Like all their first round picks, like they're gone, but they still have, if they want to use it, Trevor Connolly. I still don't think that Vegas is done. I don't think any of us think Vegas is done. I think they're still looking for one more forward to add to their mix.

And I'm like you. They don't care about what's coming. They don't care about prospects they use as resources to win the cup today. If you're looking not to get like so like so zen about this, but if you're looking for a team that's content to always live in the moment, Vegas might just be your team. I don't worry about the future. I just want now.

You know, it's amazing. Think back to the expansion draft. I was there. They asked me to come out and host it, and I did. They drafted Mark Andre Fleury. He was supposed to be the face of the franchise. And quite frankly, he was the face of the franchise for a very long time. But then they got to the pod, and they brought in Robin Leonard.

And Robin Leonard all usurped the starting goalteaming position from a real good goalie, Mark Andre Fleury. Well, Robin Leonard didn't work out. So they decided, okay, we're going to have to rejig our goaltending position again. and they find a way to do it. And Aiden Hill comes in, and they bring in Sean Burke as a goalie coach, and Sean Burke hits it off with Aden Hill, and Aiden Hill helps get a Stanley Cup. I mean, you go down the line.

No teams, and this is the dirty little secret of the Western Conference, I know you're aware of this. This is for the fans. I don't think there are two teams that hate each other more than the San Jose Sharks and the Vegas Golden Knights. I really do not think there are two teams that hate each other more, honestly, and nobody talks about it. But think about it for one second.

they brought Pete the boar to Vegas from San Jose Jeff think about that for one second it's the the hatred is intense listen like it's

and it's I still hasn't worn off every time I see Ryan Reeves in a San Jose jersey I kind of do that whoa man that that because I still think to Vegas and San Jose

this is part of the glory of like okay let's get San Jose back to that level now so we can we can reintroduce that feud. I would throw in Vancouver and Dallas, but that might just be at the ownership level. And when you look at like intense dislike

for one another in the Western Conference, but yeah, man, like honestly, you're right. Vegas in San Jose is a tasty one. Now, from the Calgary point of view here, we wonder about Nazim Kodry. We wonder about Blake Coleman. Might even wonder about McKenzie Weeger, although he has a lot of term.

Is this the beginning of the domino, the trade dominoes falling in Calgary? Or do you look at this and say, it was time, they needed to get this deal done, don't read anything else into it. Which one? I think they're going to be proactive. They're going to stockpile picks. There's a good time to have picks too, by the way. You know, the draft last year was okay.

It wasn't elite. It was okay. Coming up, you can see how it's trending. It's going to be really elite. There are so many impact players coming over the next. couple of years. So I can understand what Craig Conroy is trying to do. I can understand what ownership in Calgary is trying to do. They don't want to be mediocre anymore. They're either going to swing for the fence or they're not. I think they're going to swing for the fence. I don't

have a problem with that. Just watching what they're doing and hearing the sound bites out of the managerial office. Zach White Cloud, by the way, is the same age as Rasmus Anderson. And he's a useful player. He doesn't have the offense that Rasmus has, but he's an elite penalty killer. He's a good shop blocker. He's a good shutdown guy. And he's a guy that Kelly McCrimand knew about more about than anybody else because a kid grew up right next to Brandon. He did go to Bemidgy State, a college school. But, I mean, again, Zach White Cloud's a good player. You see all those draft picks that Zach put up on the board. It's really appropriate. So quite frankly, I don't think Calgary's done. I still think. And you just mentioned, you know,

a couple of names. I don't know where NAS goes, but I got to think NAS at some point is going to go somewhere. I really do. And Blake Coleman, Blake Coleman, be such a useful player for any team. My late great friend, Ray Sherrill, had so much time and admiration for Blake Coleman. He thought the world of them. And he had him in Jersey and really liked them a lot. It is an interesting time when it comes to trades. Is there anything more that you want to add to this one from the Calgary point of view? One of the things that, and I don't think this is, I don't know that this is so much of a huge deal. But one of the things coming out of Calgary right away is, you know, okay, so white clouds involved here, is that going to block Zane Perak? I don't think so, but it's, I'm just saying, just for the purposes of this program,

just to have all the conversation out there on the table, it's part of the conversation. I don't think it's an issue, but your thought. I know, I get it, but they're two totally different players. In fact, I can see maybe Zane, I could see maybe Zane Perak being a partner with Zach Boy Cloud. You know, I'm of the era where I remember when Jeff Bukaboo went to New York and he became partners with a guy named Brian Leach and the rest is history, you know, sometimes those players are like to roll with the puck and be offensive. They need guys like Zach White Cloud.

They need guys like Jack Bucabum to stabilize the situation. So maybe, but I don't see it being because Zane Forex going to be sitting and watching and Zach White Cloud's going to get his ice time. I don't see that at all. Can you see Calgary moving another defender? I think anything's possible, but I still think it's probably what we talked about. NAS is probably one of the guys. Yeah, those are probably two of the guys.

I think there's an appetite around the league for some of their bigger forwards. I just don't think they're in the mood to want to move those. You know, Jeff, when you were doing this a long time ago, Cliff Fletcher used to have a theory all of time, and they had such an amazing scouting staff in Calgary. Calgary wouldn't draft players under six feet tall. There are only two that they did. One was Theo Fleury. Yeah, Flurry.

And the other guy was Peter Lapin. Everybody else was over six feet tall. They didn't want anybody small. And you remember, they were no fun to play again. You think about Joel Lotton, you think about Colin Patterson, you start looking at all the big guys, Gary Roberts, like Joe Newendike. People forget Joe Newndyke's a big guy. He's not a small guy.

Yeah. There's a, the other thing about Calgary, too, Cook Diversion, when you look, I mean, they're going up against, you know, the Edmonton leaders in the Smite division every year. And here comes Grotsky and here comes Curry and here comes coffee and fear. And, you know, the traveling all stars, Messier, Anderson, keep going. and they were a really good, hardworking, competitive team, but they couldn't wait for some of their prospects to ripen.

So as you well know, they got ahead of the curb and started signing college free agents. And they were like, now it's the big race at the end of every year to grab as many college free agents as you can. Calgary was first in on that. Calgary was first in on that. They did a really good job. They had a scout by the name of Louis Raycroft, who was really good. He used to be the coach at Cornell University. actually when Joe Nguendai played there, and he came out and Louis helped them a lot on the college front.

And the thing that I remember, Ian McKenzie was always out there working hard for Calgary back in those days. They had a very interesting step. And this is a good one for the fans in Calgary that are watching you. Calgary used to be a big budget team, as you know. Oh, yeah. And they were one of the only teams when you'd go to Europe scouting, their scouts would be sitting in business class and all the rest of us would be sitting in business class. Oh, those were the days.

Calgary also, like, they spent a lot of time with international hockey, too, specifically in the 80s. Like, you look at all of those, like, tours. Remember there was caps and flames one-on-one, but Washington, or Calgary was always going over. Always going over. And they always had good players from overseas, too. They weren't afraid to take players from overseas.

One of the best ones they had, I know they didn't take them, but Kenton-Hilson, I mean, Kentor was a heck of a player, man. I'll tell you that right now. I'm telling you, Hall of Fame, skill, Kent Nelson. I'm telling you. I'm with you 100%. Okay. The letter from Chris Dr. from Chris on Friday, we'll get to some of the other issues here. I do want to park some time and talk about Dallas. But the cascading effect after that came out has been interesting. One, we got the information about Artemmy Panarin that, you know, as his contract expires, he will no longer

be wanted on the voyage, as they say. And there have been other players who have no move clause. who have decided not to waive them, they will stay, whether it's Fox or J.T. Miller or Scherkerkin, some of the obvious candidates here. But given the reality of there are players with no moves that are going to stay, we know our Temi Panera, if he waves and finds the right situation. Listen, if he waves to go to Dallas, he gets a raise. No tax state. That's got to be interesting there.

Ditto for Florida. How deep do you think this, as Drury mentions it, retool can go? I think they've got to do some cleansing with the room. I think there's some really hard feelings. And so when you have hard feelings in the room from the players towards management, you probably have to wash the room as much as you can. There are a lot of things that went into this. The way they treated Barclay Goodrow, I don't think was appreciated by the players.

The way they treated Jacob Trubo wasn't appreciated by the players. Some of the leakage that went on last year, especially about Zabanajad, wasn't appreciated by the players. The negotiation on Chasturkin wasn't appreciated. by the players, you know, some of the mumbling about Chris Kreider, who was a very popular New York Ranger, wasn't very appreciated. He's run through a whack of coaches. Chris Durie has since he's been there. It was almost a powerless coup, how he took over the team from Jeff Gordon and John Davidson. So there's a lot of moving parts here, and I think there's got to be

some fencemen that goes on, and maybe that's why I think there'll be more guys out than we'll stay. Okay, so this just happening now. This is just breaking. Kiefer Sherwood has been traded to the San Jose sharks. Cole Clayton goes the other way he's an undrafted defenseman played medicine hat and two second round picks in

26 and 27. So off to the San Jose Sharks. So I wonder if this is from Mike Greer the message to the room that you've overperformed, you've earned a trade. Yeah, this is almost like a bonus. This is their Christmas bonus.

Absolutely. That's exactly. That's smart. Managing, too. I know Dougie Waite's involved with this out there. That's a veteran type of front office move. You want to give your players a reward for playing well and staying relevant over the courts of the season. I don't think that payoff, I should say, to Vancouver is extremely high. I know there were a lot of people thought there'd be a first-round pick at least involved in that. So they get two firsts in a minor league prospect. I mean. Well, that, okay, let me let me back up to that too, because trade.

Deadlines not until March. And I say to myself, even if the market says no to a first round pick right now, why the rush? Why the rush to do this if you do the Vancouver Canucks? And you think, because there will be injuries between here and trade deadline. And teams are, oh, this is too rich. I'm not going to give them two seconds. All of a sudden, you're one key injury and your owner is saying, we got to not just make the playoffs, but do some damage here. All of a sudden you say, you know what?

It wasn't worth a first round pick in January, but now it is. or the other thing that I wondered, did the injury scare Vancouver? I was just going to say there's another part to this too. Maybe they're worried about Keeper sure would being hurt. That's number one. And number two, I think they're worried about there's some problems in their marketplace right now. And the longer you have stuff lingering, the harder it is to get out and take care of business. And they got some stuff lingering there right now.

And, you know, whether it's Pedersen, who everybody's talking about, whether it's, you know, Kiefer Sherwood that people are talking about. Obviously, the injury to Thatcher Demco doesn't make it easy. We've already seen Quinn Hughes traded out of there. You know, J.T. Miller was moved out. I mean, there's a lot that's bothering the marketplace there right now. So I think that I can understand why they'd want to move on. So they ask you then the same question I asked about the Calgary Flames.

Does this begin the Domino's with the Vancouver Canucks? We all know the names. We all know the names. Yeah, no, I think so in Vancouver. And the biggest reason why is, you know, last year they won an American League championship, a Calder trophy, or a Collar Cup, I should say, excuse me, in Abbotsford. Now Abbotsford is one of the worst teams in the American Hockey League. So their prospect pools kind of dried up.

Their NHL teams right at the bottom of the list, and they know they got to turn it over and they got to fix it. So now you just go and swing for the fence and try to fix it a lot like what Calgary is trying to do. Okay, so more on this one as the day progresses. Make sure to stay tuned to our socials and also daily faceoff.com. if you're just dropping in here on the program, Kiefer Sherwood is now a member of the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Cole Clayton, right-shot defenseman playing in the minors,

and two second round picks, one in 26 and one in 27. I wonder, too, as much as this might be a reward for the San Jose Sharks, is it a not-so-s subtle, okay, we're helping you out for the playoffs. Now the expectation is you get to the playoffs. Because they've been skating without expectation to, right?

He's a young team. It's going to play. Well, that one guy they got, I think he wears number 71. Yeah, Hart Trophy. How do you say his name? That Celebrini kid's something else. He's good. And obviously, they've got a lot more coming along.

And I had a chance to talk to Ryan Worsowski, Jeff, probably around 10 days ago, two weeks ago. He's a fascinating guy. And I think he's done a fantastic job. And they've got a brilliant young assistant there by the name of Brian Wiseman, who for a long time was coaching in Edmonton. He's a disciple of Dave Tippett. He played for Dave in Houston when it was the old IHL and then worked with Dave. And I can tell you one thing, that coach and staff is really underrated. They've done some very, very good things with those players. And here's the difference. We were talking about the Rangers before, talking about San Jose now. Why have the Rangers

struggle in teams like San Jose get better? Nobody gets better playing for the New York Rangers. They haven't in the last five years. Nobody gets better. Braden Schneider's Exhibit A. exhibit A hadn't gotten better. Look at all the Rangers players that haven't gotten better. Look at all the San Jose Shark players that are getting better every day. And so I give that to the coaching staff

and I have a lot of respect for what they're doing out there in San Jose. Quick note on Wiseman 2. Controls the power play and played for Red Barents at Michigan. I can't help but think that that isn't going to help Brian Wiseman and his day-to-the-life

as an assistant coach with the San Jose Sharks and probably somewhere down the road, Wiseman's going to be a head coach. I think he would have to assume. He was one of the great chat of Mick-Macks. I saw him play. On his team was a kid named Steve Shields. Remember Steve Shields?

Great gold tend, oh, yeah. 99. He was awesome, yeah. He went to Michigan. Yep. Brian Wiseman was a great chat of micmac. He was down to St. Lawrence University and the University of Michigan,

and he didn't pick us. He picked Michigan. I could understand. He's looking at Red Barrington every day. Red would make that short drive from Ann Arbor. I'd take the seven-hour drive from Kent, New York. You mentioned the Rangers. Sorry, when the news broke about Sherwood,

I wanted to make sure we got that on as quickly as possible. But let's swing back to that one here now. So now the question becomes, what happens? And Panarin seems to be the obvious one. There's a few teams. Like I've wondered about, and specifically going back to Chris Patrick talking about,

looking for a high-impact winger for the Washington capitals. I do wonder about Washington. I would wonder about, you know, I would wonder about Panarin going to Washington, maybe doing a two to three-year extension, and perhaps he becomes the Ovechkin replacement on the left side, and the caps all of a sudden get a new look after Ovechkin sails off into the sunset.

I think Dallas, if you look at the Dallas stars right now, like they're two wins in their last 12, and all of a sudden the goal scoring has vanished for this team. They need something there, and it's another go-for-it-year for the Dallas Stars. Carolina, I would imagine they're always in the mix. I think we wonder about Colorado once upon a time they were in the mix. I believe they offered, I think it was a three- or a five-year deal when he was finished with Columbus, but he had his heart set on going to the New York Rangers

of Florida Panthers. Could be an option as well. when you're when you look at the landscape for our Tammy Panarin, which team jumped to mind for you, Pierre? I'm going to throw one at you, the Detroit Red Wings. I think what they've done so far with this team and with Todd McLean there, I think they've amped it up. You know, I look at that Marie Tider and Simon Edvinson tandem. That's a ready-built defensive tandem for playoff hockey. You look at the quick strike capability of a guy like Lucas Raymond.

You look at the brinkets goal yesterday against Ottawa in overtime in the way he shot the puck. You look at the speed and the creativity of Lark and Patrick Kane seems like he's having fun again. Detroit's got to make the playoffs, Jeff. You know what I know. They're a really important franchise in the league. And I look at what's going on in Grand Rapids now. They're shredding it. Grand Rapids is playing unbelievable hockey.

They got a plet with Chris Draper and Sean Horcough and then an entire scouting staff, Hock and Anderson, all those guys. They've done a great job bringing in young players. Turn some of those young players into a guy like Panarin. I think that's the perfect fit. But what do I know? Well, you're right. You use them as resources. You either use them as players or resources to get players.

And we just had a conversation five minutes ago about the Vegas Golden Knights. And that's their model. Everything is a resource. So wait a minute. So are you suggesting that putting Panarin and Pat Kane back together again? That's why I brought it up. It's juicy. You know the great Panarin story?

I got to tell you this one. True. So Chicago's recruiting Panarin, like a lot of NHL teams, were recruiting them undrafted player and they bring them into the united center in chicago and if you've ever been in the united center this is for the fans i know you have above the rink there's a number 72 and that number 72 is for the amount of wins the chicago bulls had in one season panarin said look my number's already retired he did not he thought the black Hawks had put that 72 up there because of him.

It was actually for the Chicago Bulls, but eventually he signed with Chicago. It's a great story about Nikolai Borchewski when he first came over from Russia and the wives took his wife out to go food shopping and gave her the grocery cart and said like, go shop and I'll meet you at the front to pay for all of it. And she loaded up her grocery cart and it was all meat. It was steaks and chops and it was all meat. And they said like, what are you doing? You're just getting meat?

She goes, oh, the meat was out. It's meat day because I suppose in Russia. There's one day where all the meat comes out. So she just stuffed it in. The other wives were like, no, no, no. Like you have, you can come back tomorrow and there'll still be more meat that you can buy furthering the conversation about Panera and thinking 72 meant that his number was retired. And Nicolaevershevsky's wife thought that it was meat day. This was the one day they put out meat.

You know, here's one. I was talking to Bruce Boudreau this morning on the Monday podcast that him and I do. and he brought up a point. I asked him about the letter, and he said, you know, Drury really needs to be the one to answer to this, because right now it's going to be the coach who gets asked about it, and it's going to be the players who get asked about it.

And, you know, that was very much out there after the letter was released, that, you know what, put it out, and that's fine, but then be the one to answer for it. Because right now, and I'm just putting myself in a player slash coach, shoes. This was an organizational decision that they'll all get asked about. The coach will get asked about as well, but the manager won't. That's a tough spot for coaches and players. That's a tough spot. It's terribly difficult, very difficult. Look at, I've known the jury family a long time. Had Teddy in Hartford and in Ottawa and Teddy's and Chris's brother, it's phenomenal guy. I know, you know Teddy's son Jack, who very well, who's now playing obviously with college. Colorado, but started in Carolina. But when he played at Harvard, I saw him practice all the time. He was a tremendous player there.

Not for a long time, but he was really good while he lasted. But my point is that I like what Chris did there. Like, be original. That letter, that letter came from Jeff Gordon, you know, a bunch of years ago before he got fired. And Jeff really came up with that. And I don't even see them acknowledging that. And it's kind of like playing an old song that's kind of lost. it's beat. Be creative. Do something else. Again, I think there's been a lot of ill will,

and I don't think Mike Sullivan, and I'm not going to speak on Mike's behalf, but I'm going to say what I think. I don't think Mike Sullivan signed up to do a rebuild in New York. I don't. You don't leave Pittsburgh the way he left and expect, you know, and by the way, look at the Pittsburgh Penguins compared to the New York Rangers right now. Anybody before the season started thought that that would be the case that Pittsburgh would be ahead of the New York Rangers, not a chance. There's a lot of stuff failing. the New York Rangers, and some people have to look in the mirror and face the music. Okay.

I wanted to get to something from the weekend. There are a couple of things. A banger of an interview by Jake Sanderson. And what makes this, like I'll tell you, nothing that he says is wrong here. But what strikes me is, and I never lose sight of this, he's a second generation player. Sometimes when you don't grow up in a hockey family and you get to the NHL, you don't necessarily understand all the protocols or how to speak about. whom at different times, but you can't say that about Jake. But this is Jake Sanderson speaking from the heart.

We're going to get to the Habs fans answer here in a second. But there was no disputing how Jake Sanderson felt about Marilyn and after the comeback victory by the Montreal Canadiens at Canadian Tire Center on Saturday. Here's the evidence, Pierre. How did you feel about your team's goal tend to us? Yeah, I think, you know, Levy made some. some good saves, but, you know, I think at the end of the day, you got to make more than 10 saves to win the game.

Square five goals, you should win. We're just, like I said, he's not wrong. I'll keep coming back to this point. He is not wrong. We're just not used to hearing that from one player, specifically to their goaltender. You have a thought on that? I do.

First of all, I was there when we took Jake out of North Dakota and put him into Ottawa, with number one. Number two, I had the honor of coaching his father for two years. And his dad had 40 plus goals of two years that I was fortunate enough to be around. His dad was a real good player. And his dad got pushed and prodded. I can tell you that. And his dad became better because he was receptive to that. I can tell you that right now. So I have a lot of admiration for the Sanderson family, Jake in particular. I had no problem with what he said. It's part of the competitive nature of pro sports.

Levy's been good in certain instances. He hasn't been as good in other situation. He needs to be more consistent with his play. I like the fact they brought in Rimer now to try to help him out, especially as long as old Mark's not there because he's had a pretty heavy workload. But there were a lot of plays in that game that had to be stopped. Timely goaltending matters. And those were not really difficult save opportunities. And so I felt bad.

But I have no problem with what Jake said. And this reminds me of a story. I'm going to do the reverse. There was a goal center back in 1973 who played for the Montreal Canaanian's think Ken Dryden. Yep. And Lake Ken Dryden said some stuff that wasn't very good about three guys on the defense. Robinson Savard and the point.

He basically threw him on the Bauer. The Hall of Fame guys. The Hall of Famers. Yeah, all of them. The big three. And Toe Blake happened to hear it. Toe Blake happened to hear it. And he was a consultant for the team and Scotty Bowman was coaching.

They were in the Stanley Cup final against Chicago. And Toll Blake went to Sky. He says, you're going to have a problem here. And Scotty said, why? And he told him the story. And Scottie said, well, we should talk to Ken, don't you think? And Scotty said, could you do it? And Toe talked to Ken and Scotty talked to Ken.

And eventually they sorted it all out. But had there not been a veteran presence around there, who knows what would have happened in the dress room afterwards? But it happens at every era is my point. It happens in this era. It happened in that era. And in this era, everything gets blown up because we've got 24-hour sports talk. We've got podcasts all over. People care more about the league than ever before

because there's so many teams. Yeah. So I don't really have a problem with what he said. I really don't. He, again, like, he's not wrong. And those conversations happen all the time. But normally those, that type of comment is, is more under the umbrella of that happens during the players only meeting. Yeah, true. Like, guy, you know what? We need more than 12, 10 saves. It was actually. 13 but splitting hairs here. We need more than that. That's where it's like you close the door and everything's on the table and guys go at each other and then by the end it's all out. And everybody's emptied the tank and then you go out as a team.

But I don't think that that's unique to hockey or has ever been unique to hockey. We just never hear it in front of a microphone. I'll never discourage someone from speaking honestly. and he was speaking honestly. He's right. He didn't make it personally. He just said, we've got to get some saves. You know, it's funny.

I did a playoff series. I won't tell you the teams or the coaches or the players, but I did a playoff series that was pretty heated. And one of the leaders of this one team during a TV timeout, it was really quiet in the building. He said it very loud, are we ever going to get a save from this guy? And he looked at the end of the bench

where that guy he was talking about was drinking water. And the coach and all the players looked. at them like they were embarrassed and the goal he goes yeah i got it i'll wake up now it's kind of like to your point it was in the middle of a team thing it wasn't in the media and i didn't report it because i didn't want to break the confidentiality that of hearing that conversation because if the building would have been louder i wouldn't have heard it it's it's like the classic uh oh it was 86 larry robinson patrick wa sauna story or the guys were all in the sonnet larry walks in, Patrick actually wrote about this in his book.

Larry walks in, everybody leaves, and it's the legend sitting next to Patrick Wa. And at that time, like, Patrick was great goal to, but every game there was like that one bad goal that, and even Red Fisher would write about it. And so Larry sat right next to Patrick, really uncomfortable moment in the sauna, two men and towels. No more bad effing goals. And stood up and left the sauna. And you're like, rookie Patrick Wa sitting there by yourself. like, okay, I get it. Okay, I get it.

I understand. But doesn't leadership matter? Oh, yeah, I think leadership matters a lot. Jake was a real good leader at Dakota. Jake's been, I think he's going to be a huge, hugely important player for Team USA at the Olympics. You can argue he's one of the top five defensemen of the league. I just think he's just a little bit behind, you know, the guy out in Colorado, Camacar. And that's not a knock on any of it, like Werenski special.

Hugh, you know, Hugh the special Hudson, but they're all good. Cider. But the, yes, cider is another one. Edvinson's scratching at the door. But this guy, something else. Sanderson, something else. Played 26 minutes last night in Detroit. They got in at 2 o'clock in the morning.

They played at 5 o'clock last night in Detroit. They played 26 minutes. And he was really good. He was really good. Come on, the guy's really a good player. He's excellent. Before we get to the next clip, and this is about Montreal fans, at the CTC.

You mentioned that draft, and so Ottawa has two picks in the top five, Stutzelah, and then Sanderson. All season long, we kept hearing the noise about Yaroslava Scaroff. Was there legit talk in the organization

about using one of those picks, probably the fifth, to take a scar off? You're asking me that? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But I would tell you one thing right now, The big question marketing for a lot of teams, is it Drysdale or is it Sanderson? That was what it turned into, yes.

Which is what it turned into. So I think that was probably a bigger question than a scat-off because at the time, I don't think Ottawa was really that concern about goal-tending. At that time, I think eventually they're starting to become more concerned about it, but that's what led to Steve Stales going out and getting Linus Olmark. The previous general manager had gone out and brought in Jonas Corpusalo. People conveniently forget that. And he signed him to a $25 million contract.

That one didn't work out. And so Steyo said, we're just going to flip the contract. And he moved him to Boston and brought in Olmark. But, yeah, I think the bigger question was in that draft, who is going to go for Sanders Dreisdale? No DAC or Erie. No DAC or Erie. Okay, let's get to this last Jake Sanderson clip from Saturday.

So as we've seen before, this is not unique to Ottawa. We see it in Buffalo when Toronto visits, for example. And season ticket holders know they can recoup a lot of their money by selling those tickets. And so it feels like a Maple Leaf home game when you go to Key Bank. This happens sometimes in Ottawa with Toronto as well. It happens in Ottawa with the Montreal Canadiens, enough that Jake Sanderson would comment on it on Saturday. How was it going up against this majority of comedians cry? Yeah, we're used to it.

Playing an away game at home. It happens quite often, so, you know, it is what it is. Does not look thrilled. I know players don't like it. Your home rink should sound and feel and smell like a home rink, and sometimes it doesn't, and you can see the frustration on Jake Sanderson's face. So I coached in Hartford, and we used to have the Rangers come in and dominate our building. We used to have the Islanders come in, and they would dominate our building,

and we'd have the Bruins come in, and we didn't have fans when the Bruins came in. It was really hard. And so our players would take that personally, too. And I don't know whether if Jeff Sanderson talked to Jake about it or not, but I can tell you, the trial and tribulation of having your own rink overrun by the visiting fan base is it's kind of shattering. But I understand that. I think there's a high level of frustration

with the upper echelon players in Ottawa. They want to win. They want to take a step forward from where they were last year. Their penalty killing hasn't been good enough this year. They're not deep enough on the right side of their defense. They haven't been getting a lot of key saves at key times. And I think the biggest thing is the injuries.

When Pinto went down, he was in Fuego, that hurt them, that set them back. And then not having Brady to start most of the year, really set them back. But they're starting to come. I think one of the best things that's happened for them, Jake found out how good he can really be because he had to log so many minutes. And, you know, Stutzl is a superstar. Timmy Stutz is a superstar player.

So those are things that are buy products that have happened, even though there was some bad, there's still been a lot of good there, a lot of good. Okay. Off the Ottawa page to the Dallas Stars, whom we've already sort of already talked about, but something interesting just happened. And whenever I see Agent Switch,

I think somebody wants something to happen. CAA is one of the most respected groups in the entire industry. And certainly Papriese on his top of that list. Jason Robertson has switched to Octagon and Andy Scott. I think his brother might have done the same thing as well. I think they both might be represented by Andy Scott now. But nonetheless, take us inside the sort of functioning of like the inside guts of hockey here. because whenever I see that, I say to myself,

this player wants something to happen. And we know this is a contract here, albeit he's restricted. I look at this and I say, Robertson wants something. He either wants the number he wants or he wants a trade. I don't know how to read this one. How do you read it?

When there's a change, it's like, okay, they want something to happen. Or there's another one. Guys in the dressing room are really good at referring agents that represent them. And I think in the case of this, there's a bunch of them down in Dallas that are actually part of the Octagon family. So I can just tell you this. One of the guys I really had unbelievable respect for in this business is Steve Bartlett. He's based in Rochester, New York. Steve's been a legendary agent forever. And I know you remember Jeff back in

the day where a lot of people thought he would replace Bob Goodnow. Yes. You know, there was a lot of talk about Steve doing that. That's how Revereity once was amongst the players at that time. And one of the ways Steve got a lot of his clients back in those days, now it's changed a lot because his son, Brian's joined in with him and he's very active recruiting and their business still flourishes was referral business. And I think back in the day, especially, there were a lot of referral business propositions where players would say to another player, hey, you know, my agent's not paying as much attention to me. What do you think of your guy? And then they say, well my guy's great and he also does your taxes too and he can help invest your money.

So, you know, I think there might have been some referral stuff that went on in this whole transaction with Robertson. We'll see how it plays out, but that's kind of how I think this one might have played out more. Interesting. We'll see how this one goes because as the Dallas Star is now very much in the market for help, we do wonder what the future of Jason Robertson is with the Dallas Stars. Like just as an aside, I think that if he wants the Harley contract, it's there. forum. Like, go ahead.

I just don't think he wants the Harley contract. It was like, closer to the rant and it cut. Rant and a contract is what it feels like. I read somewhere where he's looking at 12 plus and I'm like, I don't know if that's going to work. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. We'll see. Really quick. PWHL, attendance record in Washington yesterday, 17,000.

I was a 17,000, 422. Nonetheless, a new record here. New York beats Montreal 2 to 1, particularly rough game. with essentially a line brawl at the end, which everyone at Capital One arena adored. And this is a league that is still in expansion mode, right? Like as we just watched, Zach just playing some of the clips, like these hits were for keeps,

and the punches at the end were for keeps. And, you know, the hatred between these two teams is very much for keeps as well. PWHL still very much in expansion mode. We believe that they're looking to get to 12 teams and then seek a television deal, at which point they will start selling these teams. I would imagine the model would probably be sell them to NHL teams in that market.

But when you see 17,000 at Capital One for a new record, the previous record held by Seattle for the home opener, what goes through your mind? Here's the brawl at the end and, you know, everyone got misconducts, et cetera. And crowd was going crazy and it's like, you know, this ain't this ain't your grandma's women's hockey anymore. No, but I think back to the trailblazers. You know, I think back to the ladies that really started it all that played in those initial women's world championships.

I think about, you know, whether it's Cammy Granato-Farriar or I think about Cassie Campbell, Pascal, think about Angela Regeril, think about Haley Wickenheiser. You know, every Winter Olympics since 2002, I've had a chance to do the women's games as well as the men's. That's a lot of Olympic hockey. I also did the 2005 Women's World Championships in Linxiaoping, Sweden. Canada ended up losing that tournament to the U.S., and it was really one of the first times you could see that the United States was starting to really jump and be maybe equal or better, even though they won in 98 in Nagano. So I'm kind of excited for the women's game.

I think it's really one of the great growth opportunities for the sport. The more women to play, the more people are going to want to be involved. and won with 10 NHL games. I spent a lot of time in Europe at the beginning of September and October going to different things, trying to help the pro game for the women and the men there. I was really fascinated by the commitment. I didn't experience that commitment level probably 15 or 20 years ago for the women. Now there's a vehicle to help grow the women's game, and I'm really excited for it.

I think it's going to be positive. The belief that I've always carried with me is the more women, and girls that pick up hockey sticks, the more the sport overall grows, and that means stronger manufacturers, that means more jobs for trainers and everything else, like all those skills coaches, all those types of things,

and more arenas built as well. I think it benefits everybody at every single level in the game if more women pick up hockey sticks. Okay, something we wanted to get to here with you specifically because I know you can speak with more authority about this person than I can. Hungry for Hockey History, a presentation of our friends at Uber Eats. Uber Eats is enabling fans to maximize their fandom all season long with exclusive game day deals on the app. From game day eats to paper plates and napkins if you're hosting to all the ingredients you need

to make your favorite game day dip before, during, and after the game. Uber Eats is assisting every fan's hockey experience all season long. Zach, do you want to present this one? Yeah, today is not necessarily a today in history, but more so remembering Phil Goyette from October 31st, 1933, passed on January 17th, 2026. In his 16-year NHL career, Phil played 941 games and accumulated 674 points. That's 207 goals, 467 assists. Phil won the Stanley Cup four consecutive times with the Montreal Canadians from 1957 to 1960. he also added a Lady Bing trophy in 1970 to his collection.

Yeah, with St. Louis Blues. I know that you knew Phil Goiette. Do you have a thought or two on the late, on the late Smallish Center, who was one of the most, and I'm glad that he got the Lady Bing in acknowledgement of it, one of the most gentlemanly players ever. Just celebrate his life, 92 years of age.

Yesterday afternoon, I got a call from Scotty Bowman here as I was getting ready to watch the Ottawa game. And he said, here and just calling to tell you that Phil Goyette passed away. And he started talking about different scenarios between him and Phil over the years and how much respect and admiration he had for him. And what was really interesting, he said, you know, I brought Phil to St. Louis when I was there with Lynn Patrick. And we had good teams. And he just didn't want to stay in the Midwest. And that's why he ended up leaving and going, you know, in New York. And he was talking about, he was

tying about the relationship that Phil had with players like John Belaville, and all and players. like Jacques Plan and players like Charlie Hodge and players like boom boom Jeffrey now I got to know Phil during the summertime in Montreal when I was working for the canians during the games in the media and it was just an amazing array of star power you know you had you had Jean-Gie Talbot you had you had Phil Goyette had Gump Worsley all the the late pocket rocket Richard they would all be at these golf events in the summer and I would have the opportunity to be with them and golf with them and have post-golfed

beverages with them. And Phil was an amazing gentleman, amazing gentleman, but he had this unbelievable passion for hockey. He really talked, he would ask me, why is the guy doing this? And why is the guy? Like, he asked questions. I'd be like, I think you probably know the answer better than me. But that whole group of legendary Canadians were part of those 50s teams and some that carried over into the 60s, those guys were amazing, man. Just amazing, amazing, man. He was part of the Gump Wars. trade. That was at Montreal, New York,

and Gumpur was a big part of it. Also, the first ever coach, the New York Island. Al Arbor was third, but he was the first one. I think Earl Earl, Earl Engerfield was second. Yes. Halfway through the season. Halfway through the season.

Earl was great. He used to see Earl on the road all the time back and he scouted, he owned the West. Earl Ingerfield owned the West. He was so good at that after he stopped coaching. He just dominated the scouting part. You know, I will,

there was, there's a couple of rivalries in the NHL that have been lost over the years. Montreal, Detroit is one. And the other, which just like dominated the NHL in the late 60s,

early 70s, was the Boston Bruins and the New York Rangers. I still maintain that that Rangers team goes down as the best team to never win the Stanley Cup. Like they're just, one with the gag line. Oh yeah,

the goal of game line. They were just reminded that, that, that, that, that team should have won at least one Stanley Cup. But there was an incident between the Bruins and the Rangers where Ted Green, okay,

terrible Ted Green, speared Phil Goyette. And it just sparked off, as you know, at the time. The game probably took four hours after that. And just, and,

and Bill Jennings, who was the president of the New York Rangers at the time. Now, keep in mind, the Jennings' trophy is named after Bill of Jannings. Put a bounty on the head of Ted Green for spearing Phil Goyettes.

You can't put a bounty on the man. I just did. But it was one of like the great rivalries in the history of the NHL, much like you know, whether it was Gordy Gordy versus Rocket, like those Montreal Detroit games in the

50s, they were they were the same way. And like that's like the Richard Riot was a Montreal all Detroit game. But Bruins and Rangers were special. I do remember that. And I talked to Amel, Mr. Francis, about that a lot when I had a chance to work with Amel because he was obviously really involved in those. There was one. I remember it was a little boy growing up in Montreal, Chicago, Montreal

was pretty nasty because they played the final in 71. They played the final in 73. But one, I can tell you on a Saturday night, I remember like it was yesterday. And I worked for Fergie, John Ferguson, Sr. Oh, boy. He got in a fight with Bobby Hall in Montreal at the form. I'm just telling you, I don't think Bobby Hull lost too many fights, but he lost this one. And Furgy did a number on him. It was scary to see. As a young kid, you know, you watch that and you're like, whoa, this is, that guy could get killed. But it was really scary. People talk about these fights today, and I agree, these guys are trained professionals. John Ferguson, senior, was as tough as I was. And that, that Chicago, Montreal thing, that took on a life of its

own. It really did. The first cop on the beat, as they say, John Ferguson was. Pierre, always a delight to be joined by you. It covered a lot of ground. And then to finish with a couple of nice stories about the late Phil Goyate. I just love it. Always appreciate it. When you hop on here, it's always a great time.

And I learn a ton to. And so does everybody watching and listening. Thanks, as always, for stopping by one of me. You are the man. Thanks for being a great friend. I love doing this with you, Jeff. Thanks a lot. Continued success.

You're the best. Thanks, pal. The great Pierre McGuire, who stops buying a frequent basis here on the program. And on a really newsy day like today, Zach, which is the thing that's caught your attention the most? I'm curious here. Or is it just that, you know,

the Maple Leafs beat the Winnipeg Jets on Saturday night? Yeah, that's all I'm thinking about. I'm watching Skollon. Scallon, do this to the Jets fans. I'm watching a loop. No, I'm stuck on one thing, and I know you guys talked about it. When the trade broke,

I did kind of go into producer mode, way more than listening mode, and started trying to get a clip-up. So I'm sorry if you already went through this, but let me ask something. Do you not feel like this was just, I don't want to say panic, but a rush move by Vancouver? Like, I feel like he hit peak value, Sherwood did, and then he got injured, and then they were kind of like, let's get off of this now. I know that you talked about at the deadline. Maybe you could have got that as well, but it just kind of felt like they did it in the middle when it was like a lull and a quiet period on Sherwood.

I felt this a weird timing on it. I was saying this on Securison Price last week. Right now, the market is saying no to a first round pick. But trade deadline is not January 19th. I do wonder about how much injuries do scare teams. Like, uh-oh, if we wait too long, we're not going to get anything. And if this guy gets injured again, like once you've made the decision to move on someone or move off of someone, as in this case with Vancouver and Kiefer Sherwood,

I know that Rutherford Alvin had a price that, like if someone, one would have said, like first round pick plus prospect two weeks ago. The deal's done. Like, I firmly believe that. But the market said no to a first round draft pick. But you get closer to deadline. Other injuries happen. He becomes the obvious replacement. Oh, we know the third lines wins Stanley Cups. He'd be great on our third line for insert team here. We didn't get the other guy that we wanted. Maybe Kiefer Sherwood. Yeah, maybe we're willing to spend a first round pick on it, even though he is a rental. I just don't know. what the rush was because I don't believe that and listen Dave Panyoda is always on with us saying

you know this is the price that they want this is what they're hoping to get just because you don't get it on January 19th I don't think is unless you're spooked by the injury a reason to settle for a hand-drawn facsimile of what you actually want because the return does seem and I know second round picks listen Buffalo Washington capitals turned Beck Malinthian into a second round pick and you know that's now Cole Hudson. So I know second round picks can really, really bear fruit. But I don't know, man. And especially if you look at the timeline that Rutherford has put forward, like,

oh, two to three years, this whole thing is going to turn around. You just traded Kiefer Sherwood for a pick in the next two, a second round pick in the next two years. I got news for you. I ain't planning in the next three years. Newsflow. Yeah, that's kind of the point that I'm, like, that's what I'm hung up on. I'm like, does that actually achieve the goal of what you were?

trying to do when we all were under the impression that the guy could bring back a hole? No, it doesn't. So I don't know. I just feel like they did it in a weird, mushy middle area in the key for sure would value of this season. But hey, man, it's way easier for me to do it from my chair in my pajama pants than it is to do in a GM office. I get it. But all you can do is just, you know, look at it as it's been presented. First of all, the contracts of bargain.

That's not going to sting the San Jose sharks at all. Yeah. And now they've got someone that if they, you know, if they make it to the playoffs. And I think we'd all like to see Zanosia sharks in the playoffs. If they can make it to the playoffs now, all of a sudden, like they have someone where you look at and you say, man, playoffs are built for this guy. Or this guy's built for the playoffs. It is very, very low risk. Here's the actual.

Here's the deal. Cole Clayton, by the way, as I mentioned, is a depth defenseman's undrafted player. Two second round picks in 26 and 27. Go to the Vancouver Canucks. in exchange for Kiefer Sherwood. It's amazing how a player like Kiefer Sherwood. I know this was true of Anaheim. I know this is true of Nashville,

and I'm pretty sure it's going to be true of Vancouver. The minute you let someone like Kiefer-Shirwood go, your next job is trying to find another key for Sherwood. And I know that, listen, he wasn't probably coming back to the Vancouver Canucks, and that seems obvious. But I don't know. The return to me seems underwhelming.

And I don't get, unless you're spooked by the injury, I don't get the rush to do it. I thought that was one that was going to be done. deadline. Also from the other side, because I just dumped on Vancouver a little bit there, love this move for San Jose. You touch on everything about what it does for them, but like, also the other piece of it is you've got a lot of young guys. You've got a lot of draft picks. You've got a lot of kids coming through. Like, okay, here's the second round picks this year. And the year after that, that, as you just pointed out, do they help you in the next two to three years? No. So, okay, why not

Get Celebrini and Smith help while they're here, and Dickinson and Mesa and name all the other young guys they've got coming through. Get them some pieces. Who cares? What is? Like you can't just bail on all the picks, but like, all right,

let's start to move this thing forward and not go crazy on these high risk moves. It's a pretty, pretty reasonable trade for San Jose. And they've got another real pro in the room. You got someone that's like 24-7, completely dedicated, like right down to the tiniest detail. You know, I was talking to one coach who had him and is like, you will not believe like how this guy prepares and how like to the T,

like cross the T dot the I, this guy is about his career and hockey. And I just can't help with that. For all those kids have Kiefer Sherwood in that room and for the price you paid and for how much you have to pay him, slam dunk, home run. Yep. I like this trip. For San Jose. San Jose. Okay.

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Yeah. All right. Actually, and today's is themed entirely around Matthew Kichuk. No. He returns. And Matthew Kachukh shakes the Rustov. Matthew Kachuk, Brian Rust, Kareil Kaprizoff, all to score tonight.

This one's not good. That's good. I could see it too. $5.00 will play 79. Yeah. Kachuk shakes the Rust off. Rustoff. He's that Russian winger, right?

Kachuk, Russ, and Karel Kaprizov. I love that one. That's continue with these. Zach, you're getting, I actually really, I don't, as I try not to cringe at anything anybody does, I'm trying to get cringe out of my life and not feel cringy about things. This one's really good. This one's excellent.

Thank you. This one's excellent. Bravo. Take the rest of the week off, Zach. Right. Just have vacation Vic fill in. Vic. Yeah.

If Vic's watching right now, which I think he is, his brain is exploding hearing you say that. Vic, let's go. Go on the bullpen. Go on the bullpen. Um, let's go. I'm glad you liked that one. I was a good one. I was a good one.

$5.7.79.63 cents for people as well. So there you go. Chat seemed to like that one as well. That didn't get the immediate, oh my God, what the hell is this guy doing reaction like I normally do? So I'll take that. Yeah, okay, good.

All right, chat loves you. Getting some love from the chat. Okay, listen, thanks so much for today. Zach, great job, as always. A big thanks to Pierre. We covered a lot of different things today. Went over a lot of things on the program, whether it was the passing of Phil Goyette,

whether it was the Calgary Vegas trade with Rasmus. Anderson, whether it was comments from Jake Sanderson, please hockey players, don't ever stop being honest. And then the jury situation. And I thought that was a really interesting, you know, Pierre saying that he didn't like the nature of the note and wanted him to be more creative about it. My main thing, and I'll agree with Boudreau on this one, is if you're putting out a

note like that, maybe don't just piece out, you know, check me out on Facebook. do the conference, do the conference, because right now it's your players that are getting asked and your coaches that are getting asked, and that is a manager issue. Nonetheless, we will see now what happens with the trade market. Now that Razmas Anderson is a member of the Vegas Golden Knights, and for other teams around the NHL,

and I would imagine Dallas would be one of them. I think they've looked at Raz Anderson for a couple of years now. Teams go to Plan B, and we'll see where that heads. In the meantime, thanks so much for joining me today, either live here on YouTube or by way of podcast or an archive on YouTube. If you can find it in your heart, subscribe, please, please, please. Do all the likes, do all the reviews, do all the fun things that we ask

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