The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Battle of Florida Boils Over ft. Brian Burke & David Pagnotta

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Jeff Marek hosts a loaded edition of The Sheet as he’s joined by Brian Burke to unpack one of the biggest stories in the NHL, breaking down the Artemi Panarin trade and what it means for the league as teams head into the Olympic break. Marek and Burke also dive into the chaos surrounding the Florida Panthers and Tampa Bay Lightning rivalry, discuss the timing and impact of the upcoming Olympic pause, react to Ryan Miller’s recent comments about Burke, and answer listener questions on everything from roster construction to front-office decision-making. Later in the show, David Pagnotta joins Jeff Marek to take a wide-angle look at the NHL landscape as the Olympic break officially begins, examining where teams truly stand in the standings, who’s buying and who’s selling, and what kind of trade activity could be on deck once play resumes and the march toward the NHL trade deadline begins.Leave a voicemail: https://www.speakpipe.com/TheSheetEmail us: [e-mail] TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoffReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!#TheSheet #JeffMarek #BrianBurke #DavidPagnotta #NHL #NHLTradeDeadline #TradeRumors #ArtemiPanarin #FloridaPanthers #TampaBayLightning #OlympicBreak #HockeyPodcast #NHLDebate #DailyFaceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Okay, wrapping up the week here today on The Sheik. Glad to have you aboard. Jeff Merrick along with you, as I am each and every day. 1 o'clock Eastern here on our daily face-off YouTube channel. A lot of news to get to. A pretty spicy game between the Florida Panthers and the Tampa Bay Lightning. As I was mentioning with Johnny Lazarus this morning on that morning cup. That was probably the Florida Panthers saying,

yeah, you know what? We're probably not going to see you guys in the playoffs. No playoffs for us. And we won't see you for the remainder of the regular season. There's no more meetings between the Panthers. and the bolts. But this is one of those games where we're just going to remind you who we are. And don't put us too far in the rear view mirror. We will be back. More on that game coming up in a couple of moments.

And Brian Burke coming up in a couple of moments as well, who makes a rare and very welcome Friday afternoon appearance here on the show. And now, of course, all eyes are starting to turn from the NHL to Italy and the Milan Games. And so we're going to get there coming up in a couple of moments. Meanwhile, here's what's coming up on the program today. The Blueprint is powered by Fandul. Download the app today and play your game on Fandual. Here's what we got coming up.

In a couple of moments, you will hear from Brian Burke. He is standing by patiently with plenty to say. We'll talk about the Battle of Florida, which raged again yesterday. We got some listener questions for Berkey. We also have a video of Ryan Miller talking about Brian Burke. We'll play that for him here coming up. in a couple of moments. DFO insider, Dave Panyoda stops by.

We'll talk about the fallout or the cascade from the, Artemey-Panarin trade from the Rangers to the Los Angeles Kings and other things going on around the NHL. Even though we're in a trade freeze right now, it's not like managers aren't talking to one another. In the meantime, let's get right to our first guest. He is, of course, well, someone who's normally with us on Wednesdays, making a rare Friday appearance is Brian Burke, who joins me now.

Burkey, how are you today? Good, Jeff. I'm doing this outside. It was very quiet when I sat down, but it's noisy all of a sudden. Okay. So far, it sounds great. As long as we have you here and you can hear and see everything that we have for you because we have a couple of things that we want you to watch, then we'll be great. But I want to start off with this.

So this morning I was filling in for Colby Cohen on the morning show here, Morning Cup of Hockey. And our guests were Max Gershberg and Jake Rogel, who were the producers and directors of making a miracle, the new Netflix documentary about 1980 and The Miracle on Ice. I don't know that I've ever really talked to you about 1980, now that we have eyes to Italy next week and the Olympic Games and hockey. And we all know what the effects were of 1980 and that team

and the win against the Soviets, you know, as Patrick Kane becomes the highest scoring American-born player in the history of the game, you can cascade that all the way back. to 1980. What memories do you have of the Miracle on Ice? Well, I remember it's odd because I played college hockey against most of the guys, probably 13 or 14 of the guys that played in the Olympics.

I played summer hockey with the rest, the total of 14. So maybe like BU, like Urugioni, Sil, and all that group are playing against the Providence. And I played summer hockey with Philber, Foda, Buzzy Schneider, bunch of the Western guys played summer hockey with them. So I knew a lot of them, played against a lot of them. I was my second year of lossful and they won the gold. I remember my roommate came to me and said,

you want to know who won? Because remember, it was on tape to light. That's right. It's on tape to light. So he said to me, do you want to know who won? I said, no, don't tell me. I'm going to go watch the game later. What was, like, what was your reaction?

Like, at a certain point, you have to realize, like, hold on, like, holy smokes, like, US is right in this thing? Can they actually pull it off? Like, what do you remember from actually watching that game, you know, hearing, you know, Al Michaels and Ken Dryden calling it? Do you have any memories of when you finally saw it?

Yeah, I remember when Arunani scored, I was elated like everyone else, but I remember thinking there's no way they can do this. It was truly a miracle. There's no way that team should have won that game. It says it hurt Brooks and the players. what you know see in this documentary and i i encourage everybody to watch this thing just when i thought

that like honestly burkey that i had read everything about 80 and that i had seen everything about 1980 and i couldn't clean anything more there was a couple of new things in there that i never really knew and a lot of them revolved around herb brooks and they have some great audio of herb and they interview as kids uh and it's a wonderful experience but would i say the name H. Brooks. We generally tend to think of, you know, the angry coach that got the most out of a, you know, a rag-tag bunch of college players and that had a, you know, then coached in the NHL as well and the University of Minnesota. When I say Herb Brooks, what comes to your mind? Competitor. I'll tell you a story to tell you all I need to know about Herb Brooks.

We played summer hockey. They used to put all the teams together. So like three or four golfers to be on each of the four team. When you're probably all eight in the good in the evening team, packed with the roster and win by the whole thing. He beat the anyway.

And afterwards, I said to Herb Brooks. I said, Herb, who packs a roster for a summer league game? Who does that? Put his arm around me. He said, Berkey, always take you heads. Classic Herb Brooks. He would bet

he would bet on a card game. He was better at a game of jacks if he were playing. Unbelievable guy, competitive, but a great coach and a great person. I'm really glad he's one of those guys. He died way too young. He's one of those guys, I'm glad I got to know. You know, it's interesting because, you know, here was, you know, and even though it wasn't the gold medal game,

the big game was, of course, against the Soviet Union. In the documentary, they show old training videos of Anatoly Tarasov, you know, leading the players through various workouts and kettlebell drills and aerobic training and cardio, like all these types of things. And they show what Herb wanted to do with this team and turn the team into more of a passing team. That was always a calling card to the Soviets. A team that was in like top physical condition. We all know about, you know, how Herb ran his guys into the ice if they weren't competing and they weren't in the best.

possible condition. I look at 1980, and I say to myself, the way the Americans played and how in shape they were, they kind of beat the Soviet Union at their own game, where a lot of other coaches would have been like, we've got to do something different. Herb was actually pretty bold. He's going to beat the Soviets the way the Soviets played hockey. Yeah, that's what was truly revolutionary. It was 1960.

The Olympics were wanted by the U.S. in the Squaw Valley. They won a gold medal. So that was not that distant future. So he wasn't that far away, but it seemed like the world had progressed as hockey people way above the U.S. So for him to say, we're going to beat them at their game, was truly radical, revolutionary, not just innovative, was radical. Yeah, it really was. Okay, which leads us to another U.S. Olympian in Ryan Miller. Now, he sat down with Johnny Lazarus this past week, so John's done a number of,

interviews with ex-American Olympians and Ryan Miller is one of them. And as you're about to see here, Berkey, Ryan Miller talks about you. Here's Ryan Miller with Johnny Lazarus. Do you feel like the 2010 team almost set the tone for the 2014 team? Like, you know, I've heard some guys talk about how you felt confident going to 2010, but you weren't sure if you get as far as you did. And because you did that in 2010, maybe the expectations were much higher in 2040. 2014.

Yeah, I think there's, when you look back at the way the team was built, I just think in 2010, you know, I give Brian Burke some credit here. Like he's really good at talking, as we all know. I think he's also had a really good idea about planting seeds. You know, he wanted to make sure we believed we could win. I think he was out there telling everybody we're not sure, right? Like he's bringing it down so that there's not a ton of pressure, and he's really managing that really well.

But it kind of was the same thing. We had a belief, and we thought if we got hot, we could do something special. But at the same time, there was that lightness of, like, let's just see how this is going to go and just build that confidence up. And I think it played really well for the group we had. All right, Berkey, Ryan Miller talking about Brian Burke planting seeds. in 2010, true or false? True, but Ryan Miller's being

very gracious to me. Ryan Miller was the reason we were in the gold medal game. He was awesome. He was great. And our goal training was a real plus for us. Downcing quick and Ryan Miller, awesome. And they were ready to roll

even though he didn't play much. But I think the group we were picked to finish six. That's what people don't remember about that. I don't think tournament. We were picked to finish six. No one thought we'd win it. So for us, they had into the gold medal game and losing overtime was quite a finish. Was Ryan Miller accurate in that, you know, publicly pumping the guys up, we're going to win gold, but also making sure that,

you know, outside of the team expectations were lowered and the pressure wasn't on the guys at all times. Well, yeah, a little bit. But what bothered me was we went three and all in the pool around. So the first three games we played, we went three and O. I felt our team was getting cocky. My son Patrick ironically said to me, that your guys are getting really full of themselves. And so I called in the senior management group and told them, I said, we haven't beaten anyone yet. We haven't beaten anyone yet. This is just a preliminary round. What are we doing? And I went publicly in challenge him. I said, we need more than a gold tender to win a medal. And the guys are responded really well.

As we look forward to next week, you know, the next time we're talking after, after this conversation is going to be, you know, when the games are getting going here. How do you handicap this tournament? How do you look at this tournament? I think everybody, well, certainly in North America, have their fingers crossed for a Canada-U.S. final, just coming off of the great hockey that we saw last year at Four nations to say nothing of, you know, the great games we've seen in the past. you look at this field, when you look at the pools, when you look at the teams, you look at the injuries,

you look at the replacement. Seth Jarvis is in for Braden Point. What goes through Brian Burke's mind? Well, I think there's a lot to be made, a lot being made about these substitutions and replacements that have no bearing on how it's going to play out. Don't tell me

Seth Jarvis doesn't belong to be on that team. We had a bunch of felons in Vancouver as well in the Olympics that. We had four guys come in and fill in, and and did really well. So I don't think it's going to come down to that. I can come down to goaltending and special teams.

I'm nervous about goaltending on both the USA and Canada, although I really predict it won't be a factor in either tournament. I worry about Hullivok and how he's playing. I worry about Biddington and how he's played. You mentioned Seth Jarvis there and, look, that was the yesterday edition. You feel horrible for Braden Point. You feel horrible for anybody who misses the Olympics.

I'll tell you what, that game between Florida and Boston, I watched the other night when Charlie McAvoy got hit, I automatically thought the worst, like, ugh, I just hope it doesn't cost this young man is shot of playing in the Olympics. But Seth Jarvis specifically is interesting because when I think of Seth Jarvis, one, I think of someone that because of the way he uses the ice,

like the way he uses the space, he really forces defenders to make decisions and make decisions they don't want to make. He's like that shifty and that. shifty and that tenacious. Also, he's a really aggressive penalty killer. That's the thing that I really have the inching, because they replaced

Braden Point with someone who's calling cards. Sure, he can play offense. He plays on the top line with Aho and Svetnikov in Carolina, but he's just a great penalty killer, Berkey. They are jobs. They are not players. They are jobs. You're replacing

for Doug Armstrong for Billy Garagher. You're replacing the guy who does that job. So it cracks me up. They say, oh, this guy gets hurt. Oh, Zach Simon's going to be in. They're going to replace that job. That's what they're going to do.

They're going to say, what job did he do on this team? He said, read it in my book. It's all those jobs that's a script of how to win a championship team. Someone gets hurt, you don't say, okay, let's bring the next guy in. You say to yourself, let's bring in the next guy that does that job. They can block shots, kill penalty. Emily. Let's bring in Seth Jarvis because he does that job. Cracks not when people say, oh, Zach Hyman's in now, that this guy's out,

that's out, that's really. They replace that job. That's how it works. Wake up people. The book that Brookie is talking about, Burke's Law, a life in hockey, which, by the way, when you look at, you know, hockey people that have the home studios, I always look to the bookshelves. Everybody's got that book on there, too. This is like a really, really loved book, and one that I encourage everyone to pay. pick up and have a and have a glance at. Okay. So I thought of you last night.

What game do you think I was watching? Florida. Yep. It's watching Tampa and Florida. And here's what I was thinking. I'm going to tell you a story here. Marty McSorley told me this story. Who, by the way, you never suspended for the biting incident with Eric Landross.

And he thanks you to this day. I'm going to get, actually, I get you to tell that story. a second. So Marty, Marty tells me the story. He goes from Pittsburgh to Edmonton, okay? And Dave Samank goes there, King of the Jungle, right? And Marty's a young gun slinger. He wants to fight every night. And Dave's like, nope, no, we're not fighting tonight, Marty. No, we're not fighting tonight. Marty. No, Marty, we're not doing this every day. And Marty says, after about three or four games, he comes into the room and Dave's taping up his wrists. And he says to Marty, Marty, every now and then, we must remind them. And tonight, we're going to remind them.

And Marty's like, all right, finally, Dave, we get to do it. And I can't help with thinking, whether it was the way that Matthew Kuchuk went after Nikita Kucherov that led to the Brandon Hagel fight, and then Gustav Forsling and J.J. Mosier, the whole time I'm thinking, these two teams don't play each other again in the regular season, and it's a long shot for the Florida Panthers to make the playoffs. all I'm thinking is, is this the Florida Panthers saying, we're doing this to remind you of who we are.

Hasn't gone well for us this season, but we're not going anywhere, and we'll be right back here next year. Do you think that was Florida reminding Tampa that we're not going anywhere? I think it was either that or a last ditch. Let's see if we can figure something out, some way out to get back in this. I think it stuck out to me the most last night.

was forsling in that fight. He did not want to fight Moza. He gave him about eight chances to walk away, and he said, screw it and beat the snout of him. So I like that far. I like the part that he said, I don't think this kid knows who he's doing. I'm going to give him a break.

Then he had enough and said, okay, let's go and smack them. I like it. Did you, okay, so in that Forsling Mosier fight, though, there was one thing, like, I don't know, and you're like, we're just look at the left side of the screen. Like, Moser's going at Forestling, and Forrestling's like, no, no, no,

stop it, get away, and then finally Forrestling says, all right, you've kind of bitten off more than you can chew here. And by the end, Mosures down on the ice. And normally that's where a fight ends. You're watching us on YouTube right now. You can see it. And Forzling keeps going. Now, in the 70s, that was a common occurrence.

And I think of Daryl Sittler and Gary Howard, who started the fight standing, went down to their knees, still through punches, and then got back up. But is that not a... a rule within a rule, a code that when a guy's down, you stop? More of a guideline. It's like Pirates of the Caribbean. Not the Pirates Code. It's like

more of a guideline. I think you keep throwing bunches in that kid. Fortunately, you just had enough. He gave the kid four chances to walk away. And the guy kept coming and finding, he said, well, now you're going to pay. I don't care if there's no linesman right here.

What's, just as an aside here, before we sort of go through some of the the other news bits from the weekend. We got a really interesting voicemail for you, too. Florida and Tampa, we've marveled at this rivalry now for a few years. And the Florida Panthers have come out on top, went back-to-back Stanley Cups, probably not going to make the playoffs this year.

How do you explain the rise of the Tampa Bay Lightning here? Normally when a team sort of crests and wins their Stanley Cup, it begins that downturn. how have the Tampa Bay Lightning been able to do this? And now you look around the Eastern Conference, like sure, Carolina's a tough out too, but for a lot of people, like Tampa's top dog. Is there a sales tax in Florida?

No, sir. Five percent difference right there. So that's part of it. That helps those teams. But it's all the two GMs involved, Steve Eisen and then his successor. Julian Brisewa. Julian Briswai.

And then Philly Zito. So those two guys have done a magnificent job of keeping up with the Joneses. It was like that when L.A. took over. Dean Lombardy took over in L.A. We won our cup. And Dean said, well, not so fast. The same thing. He said, we're not going to get embarrassed by the ducks.

Same thing happened here. Julian Breiswold embarrassed to Bill Zito. Bill Zito said, no, that's enough. It's been great for hockey. It's fantastic. But make no mistake about it. their ability to melt the salaries, the big part of it.

Yeah, as long, when you're a competitive team, I think a lot of it too, because like, like Seattle doesn't have state tax either, but still, I think the first thing, you have a competitive team,

then all of a sudden, and Brad Marchand talked about this too, then the no state tax becomes a significant advantage and magnet for a lot of, a lot of high-end players too. You mentioned L.A. So they were the big newsmaker this week, making the trade for Artemie Panarin. Ken Holland pulls the trigger with Chris Truary and he gets Panarin.

It's Liam Green Tree and a couple of picks, one of which could turn into a second round pick. First of all, what did you think of this entire process? And what did you think about, what do you think now of Artemian on the Los Angeles Kings? And if you saw the game last night against Vegas, you're probably saying to yourself, They need more than just Artemey Panarin. But we'll get your thoughts first on the deal. I don't like this deal for L.A. for New York.

I'm a big Chris Dury fan. He played for me. I like him. I respect him. I don't think they got enough here. I think Panarin clearly the best player to retain half his salary. Is that right? Correct.

Got back a player I like but don't love. A couple of middle picks. Nah. Nah. But was this not? Okay. I remember you've done this a couple of times, but it's not with someone of the stature of Artemmy Pinaran.

Considering that was the only place he was going to waive four, are you not better off getting something than letting him play out the remainder of the season, if indeed they were going to play him at all, and have him walk away for nothing in a dead year for the Rangers? Yes, there's no question he did the best he could with the facts. But he seemed to rush it. you're sitting there sit them out and then say

I'm going to meet that first trade deadline not the second one. They're taking this time and done a little better, I think. No, I'm not saying it was a terrible deal because you don't have any hammer. The agent has told that there's got to be one team, you have no hammer. There's a couple of teams every year,

whether it's, you know, All-Star break or in this case, Olympic break, where they don't want to stop playing. The Buffalo Sabres have kind of had a little little bit of a speed wobble lately, but they've been real good in going into this week. This was probably a team that was like, we don't want to stop playing. We're rolling. We want to keep on going, but this week hasn't been kind to them.

But the team that really doesn't want to stop playing now, can you explain Columbus? Holy smokes, Brian Burke. This looks like it's not apples and oranges. It's chalk and cheese. How different this team looks now that are the beginning of the year. Well, this is a lesson here. it's bad to fire your coach is generally the role

means your team is really struggling usually has a dead cat bounce doesn't have a big impact on your team just a dead cat bounce but in this case now teams are saying maybe we should change coaches sooner and more often which is a bad lesson for our owners to learn

a bad bad lesson but good for them good for Columbus it's been great for the market place can they do this can they get there like a part of me wants to believe in in magic and then my head says like Jeff like magic is as a con don't believe in magic so can they really do this

can buffalo get in yes in Clemiston in I'd say no but I'm starting to doubt that my own beliefs that they cannot and maybe they can't everyone's hoping they do it's a great marketplace fans are great the ownership's good everything's solid about it

I'm hoping they can do it but I say no still one of the things through all of it though and I think you should probably get more Norris love than he already does listen Kilmokar has had a great season we understand that but should we be paying way more attention

like Norris trophy attention to Zach Werenski yes and let's get into the conversation let's say Zach Werenzky does not win the Norris trophy this year let's at least get him in the conversation because that's a prelude prelude to a guy winning it.

You have to be in the conversation for at least a year before the voters find you out. But yes, he's been magnificent. On a not very good team, he is a great player this year. He always has been. He's really stepped up this year. It's amazing. They put

Damon Severson with him and he's struggled in the last couple of years and now all of a sudden, Damon Severson's having one of his best seasons. Let's get to a voicemail here. This one from our good friend in the chat, General Sornis. Hey, Berkey, General Sornis here. As we near the transaction freeze for the Olympic break and head towards the trading deadline after the Olympics, I was wondering if you could please share with us your thought process on how you evaluated your teams when you were in management as to whether you were going to take the approach of being buyers or sellers at the trading deadline.

Thanks, Berkey. In Vancouver, we're almost always a buyer. In Toronto, we're almost always a seller. But basically, the analysis doesn't change for me. You say, what's our biggest need, one, two, three, our three biggest needs, and then you break them out. Say, number one, let's say we need a scoring winner. Then my job, well, at that point was to go get to not get this point.

player. We need to get Phil Kessel, we'd say, Phil Kessel, then Brian Berkman, Diff, Merritt, and the price tag would drop with each one. I would get the first one of those three that I could get at a reasonable price tag. Second need of a buck-moving defense, put down the top three, go after them in sequence and price. Not wait. I think it's a real foolish thing to wait until the end of the season or the trade deadline to get a player.

We're looking for a player type. So then that becomes, it's funny, we just had the conversation about the Columbus Blue Jackets. And I'll think about a team like the St. Louis Blues. Like you've seen Doug Armstrong close to the playoffs or maybe like right there in the playoffs at trade deadline and decide we don't have the team for this. And next thing you know, Dave Backus is traded. Next thing you know, Stastnys in Winnipeg. So we've seen that as well. If you're close, and I guess this would go team to team to team.

if you're close to a playoff spot at trade deadline, is that where the owner wants to get a hand on the wheel? It was not a problem for me generally because I told my owner, I interviewed for the job. I said, look, there's two hands on the goddamn steering wheel. They're both mine. If I ever looked down, there's three hands on the steering wheel, you'd have a problem.

They all took the job on that basis, so they hired me on that basis, and largely protected that freedom. authority. So it wasn't a big problem. Yeah, that's a real, there's no question that you get impatient. So looking over your shoulder a little bit. Hey, are we supposed to stop here? Are we supposed to get up? Birky, one thing I wanted to mention, it was really nice to see at that Columbus game, they beat the Hawks for Cobb and seeing Zach Wrenzki come out with the American flag for all the

all the fans at nationwide arena was a really, really great touch, getting everybody excited for the Olympics. I haven't really asked you, we've asked you about stories and replacement players and team composition and all that. What do you expect at the Olympics next week? Like, what are you looking for? Are there any dark horses? You've talked, you know, going back 15 years about, you know, Germany and now all of a

sudden it's Dreisdel and Sider and Stutzla and Petrka. It's like, what are you looking for at this year's tournament? that. Well, I think everyone's focused on two teams. I think that's a big mistake. Canada and the U.S. are clearly the two best. I'm nervous about Sweden. I'm nervous about the two North American teams because the goaltending is a very great right now. Now, my prediction is, goaltending will not be an issue for either North American team. I don't care what they say right now, and neither one is going to have a problem with their bulletting. If I had to pick a team to worry about, it would be sweet.

Because their goalpennings have been fantastic. They've got depth. They've got scoring. We've got special teams. I like them a lot. We shall see. Final word. Barry Trots,

who's, as we all know, legendary in Nashville, announces this week that he is retiring. He is staying on pending a search for his successor as general manager. By the way, Caps fans yesterday and during that Washington Capitals game, the video tribute to Barry Trots,

who brought the Washington Capitals to a Stanley Cup in 2018. Good on the fans for that standing ovation for Barry Trots in D.C. yesterday. Yeah, it was good on them. I agree. And David Boyle and Barry Trots, what a pair. The guy that Francis for so long with such patience, just keep getting better and better. They didn't want in Nashville, but they finally won it for it.

Barry in Washington. Good for Barry Trout. If he's retired to enjoy his life a little bit, he's earned it. Good for him. Sure has. And you've earned it too. Earned your weekend. And next time we talk, we'll be talking about the Olympics. And we're all looking forward to our.

Berkey, thanks for taking it outside today. Thanks. Worked out great. Brian Burke. We'll be back on Wednesday here on the program. Always appreciate Berkey coming on. and that be his book, Berkslaw, A Life in Hockey, Brian Burke with Stephen Brunt.

Highly recommend. It's on every shelf. All your favorite hockey personalities always have that. You have a bookshelf. A couple of things here. Standing by for Dave Pan Yota, just connecting now.

So we'll get to Dave about a couple of things, like the fallout from the Artemie Panarin trade to the Los Angeles Kings. And that, so a couple of things from there. When you're a team that strikes out on the player who's number one on your list, that normally you turn to number two. You don't stop looking. So I really do wonder, and I think we all do,

for teams that lost out on our Tammy Panarin, where did they turn now? We just talked about the Washington Capitals with Brian Berg. They're a team that I think we look at and go like, okay, I don't think that Chris Patrick is just going to put his pen down now, or turn his phone off. There are other squads, San Jose Sharks, Carolina Hurricane, Cains, at least the Tampa Bay Lightning, if not, you know, two Florida teams here.

But that's just, it was just some of the questions revolving around the Artemey-Ponarine trade, the Whopper, as we're calling it. Dave Panyoda stops by and joins me now from DFO Rundown Insider Edition. Dave Panyota from the fourth period joins me. Now, Dave, how are you today, pal? I'm good. I'm good. Geared up for the Olympics.

Are you? I guess the action gets in a minute tonight. Yeah. Well, see, the thing about you're right on top of all the Artemi Panera stuff and I want to get to that too. How much other groundwork do you think gets laid for subsequent moves?

And also we should say, like, you're still allowed to sign contract extensions during this trade freeze. You can still do that kind of business. How much business do you think gets done in the next couple of weeks while the players are out and some guys are in Cabo? Yeah.

I think this first week is going to be relatively quiet, talking to a few kind of GMs out there and a few others around the league that they anticipate this first week, let the guys go do their thing, let them get away, whoever's not in the Olympics, everybody take a breather, management, and everyone will be doing their thing in terms of, you know, mapping out their plans. But let the players go do their thing. And then when everybody comes back or close to it next weekend, everyone's back on the 17th, then have those conversations with your pending restricted and unrestricted for your agents. And a lot of teams, I think Seattle, Columbus, Toronto, a number of them,

want to have those discussions with their pending free agents during this time to determine whether or not it's realistic for them to sign them. And, you know, Boone Jenner, for example, in Columbus, I'd be a little bit surprised if they can't figure something out there. But is Charlie Coyle going to want to have, you know, a deal in place with Columbus or is he looking at the free agent market? And if that's the case, they're going to have a decision to make, just speaking hypothetically using these two guys.

as examples. But, you know, we may see some players become more available in the next couple of weeks based on how some of these discussions go. We know Seattle is going to have it with their guys, whether it's Alexiak, Eberley, Tolvenin, and Schwartz. Those are four guys that are important. Seattle's an interesting team and, you know, one of the surprise entrance in the, in the Panarin sweepstakes, I'm offering up. Boatloads of money. I want to get there. But how much, this is, This is a good one for you. How much do you think this Columbus winning streak has thrown a wrench into the market? Because a lot of us thought that by now, like they're going to continue to lose and it will fall out of it.

And, you know, like you and I talked about, you know, either Boone Jenner or Charlie Coyle off to the Edmonton Oilers and, you know, helping to make a third line, which Stan Bowman is, of course, we would assume trying to put together there with the oilers. How much of this winning streak complicating everything right now, did? Dave. It does and it doesn't because, like, from the dozen side, Waddell and company, they thought this was the team, I mean, not to this level, not to how well they've done with bonus behind the bench. That's not sustainable. But they thought they were a hell of a better team than they had shown in the first bit

of the season. And they believe that what they had on paper was going to be reflecting their overall performance wasn't the case. And they needed to make a change. and with bones coming in, it's a looser room. There's more communication. There was some talk that maybe the players started to tune Evanston out, and that's why they ultimately went in this direction,

but things have definitely shifted. They feel they're a playoff contending team, but at the same time, if they can't get Cabranson and Jenner and Coil signed or at least don't feel confident or there's a risk of them going to free agency, then I think Waddell is going to look at the market and see what's available to them.

whether it's Edmonton or, you know, L.A. is looking for a center. Do they go the coal direction? There are other teams that want to benefit, you know, the rest of their club, reward their club, I should say, by adding to it. So whether it's the Dallas or Columbus or, excuse me, Colorado's, Carolina in the east, other teams, Tampa, Montreal, et cetera, there are a lot of teams that are going to be looking to make moves and they want to be, they're curious to see, hey, is coil available?

Is general available? can we go in this direction? So I think Columbus, again, they feel this is the team that they've put together that can compete for a playoff spot. So they're comfortable with that. But at the same time, can they get these guys signed? Mason Marchman, another one. It is interesting.

You know, in no surprise. You know, Rick Bonas comes in, seven games. They've only surrendered 13 goals. Like, we kind of should have seen this one coming that right away, defensively, this team was going to tighten up. I'll be really curious to see what Columbus does. Like, if they get in, like, we're going to talk about Temi Panarin here in a second. It's the same thing that happened to Panarin in Columbus too, and Bobrovsky.

You know, like they just treat them like their own rentals. It's important for the organization, get over the home playoffs, et cetera. And it worked in that first round against Tampa Bay Lightning for sure. But then ultimately those guys ended up going for nothing. Okay. Our Temi Panarin. What surprised you along the way? Because this was, like this was a cruise ship, right?

Everybody got on for the ride. By the time we got back to port, what surprised you? Well, not the destination, because L.A. was, you know, part of this from the start. Yeah. It was more, honestly, it was the contract. Two years. You know, I guess the other surprise was Seattle offering up over 14 million a year to try to lure him over. over there. I know Carolina had, I think it was a four years, four years around 12 million on the table. And then they, I believe they went back with a fifth year, more overall money, but lowered the

AAV. Again, didn't make a difference. He wanted L.A. when push came to shove at the end of it. So I'm a little bit surprised on, well, very surprised with Seattle, how aggressive they were, but a little bit surprised on the fact that he's only getting a two-year extension at 11 million AAV. That one surprised me. Not so much the return. I know some people are questioning the overall return, but at the end of it, when that was the only option on Wednesday, you take the best package you can. And I know the Rangers seem very high and were very high on Green Tree from the start. So we'll see kind of how he develops for that club. But those are probably the two ones that surprised me the most. The ultimate deal with L.A. and the fact that Seattle was just so ridiculously aggressive in trying

to get them. Okay, so let me read you something. This is from someone from another team about Panarin because it seems as left, he was sort of, he wanted to go to the sun, right? Like, he wanted to go where it was warm. And so one person sent me this text. He wanted to go to Florida or Tampa, winning cultures and no taxes, requested kings, losing culture, and high tax. did he just want to go somewhere warm? Is that all the matter? Maybe.

Because it was a no to Utah. It was a note of Detroit. It was a note of Washington. I think over the weekend is when some of those teams, like the Caps and Detroit, at least from what I was told, was that's when things started to narrow down when those teams were being told that he wasn't interested in signing with those clubs.

Yeah, Florida and Tampa were right there. They weren't able to make things happen. I think Tampa was trying, but they just weren't able to make the money work in terms of an extension or a willingness to do it. And they've got their own guys that they don't want to go over even with the market shifting. So that effectively nullified the two Florida clubs. And, yeah, L.A. I think, or at least it seemed to me like Carolina and L.A. were the two leading into Wednesday,

and then when they figured things out, it was like, okay, no, we just want to focus on Los Angeles, and that's the team. And he made it known yesterday as well that this is the team he wanted to be with. So I think it's situational based on how this all played out,

but he's happy with his decision in L.A., and certainly the Kings are happy as well. I believe they tried to poke on Trocheck, but that wasn't going to happen. He wants to stay east. So they're going to, I don't expect the Kings to be done. I mentioned earlier, Coil, I think they're going to look at the center position. And it seems like that's a priority.

For sure. And interestingly, yesterday with, you know, Kenny mentioning Fogel's name, just because they have so many guys on that roster, I'm curious to see how they play this out leading into the deadline. I was going to say if our Tammy Panarin watched the game last night against the Vegas Golden Knights, he knows that his general manager still has some work to do. So what is the fallout from all of this?

Because none of us think that this means like, okay, well, you know, Jason Botterill took a swing and then that's it, he's keeping his bat on his shoulders. No one thinks that Chris Patrick's keeping the bat on the shoulders or Eric Tulski is keeping the bat on the shoulders. Steve Eisenman, you see where I'm going here. What happens now? Is it all of a sudden now everyone just turns their attention to St. Louis?

I think it's St. Louis. I think it's Nashville. I think it's Calgary. There are going to be some, I'd imagine some interesting conversations once things re-engage, or reignite, I should say, with a lot of these clubs.

Like Nashville, I heard that they had two deals on the table. I have no idea what they were, but they had two deals that they were working on that didn't happen before the freeze. They've been active. We know that they're willing to listen on Stamcoast and Marsha So. We know that they're willing to an extent,

stent to listen on on Ryan O'Reilly. And definitely they're pending unrestricted free agents. So bunting and Hala and McCarron and so on. I expect them to be pretty aggressive. I think the way that the West has shaped out, despite L.A. losing back to back, going into the break, I think it's nine teams now in the Western Conference

that are going to be battling for those eight spots. Might be too little too late for some of the other ones. But we'll, I mean, we'll see. But I include Nashville in that mix. And then you have St. Louis. You mentioned Seattle taking that big swing. They took a big swing or tried to anyway with trying to get Jordan Cairo in the summer.

And that didn't work. You know, maybe they pivot back. Maybe they look in a different direction. It's clear that Seattle wants a top line talent. And, you know, as we reported a couple weeks ago, Shane Wright's out there. And they're using him as that carrot to dangle to package up in order to get a piece that's going to fit them on that first line.

So, you know, Seattle's going to look. And again, they have to do some housekeeping, as I mentioned earlier. They got to figure out their free agent situation. But, you know, maybe they utilize some of those assets that they acquire if they do move these guys out and package that up for that's on that first line that they're looking for at least one piece. So, you know, Seattle's going to be selling and situationally buying if they can for a guy with term. You know, some of the other, like Carolina, I think looks back at the Rangers, excuse me, and looks of any Trocheque again.

Maybe that's the fit for them if they can't bring in a top winger or top six winger, I should say, look at the center position and see if you can get somebody responsible at the dot that contribute offensively. And for this situation, there's familiarity there because he played there. So I think a lot of these different teams are going to pivot a little bit. Dallas, I still think, is just breathing down Craig Conroy's neck to see if they can make something work for Cairo. Excuse me. Cadre, Cadre, I should say. For sure.

Or Coleman, because there's definite interest there. And I believe, you know, Coleman would, wouldn't bat an eye at going over to Dallas and playing there. So I think a lot of these different teams are going to start to reshift their focus. I'm sure they've already started to see where things go. You mentioned the Washington Capitals, another top six guy that they're looking for. And they want, so like a lot of these teams, because of how the cap is going, they want to know, or I guess it makes things a little bit easier for them to know that they can bring in somebody with term. and it's not going to hinder their ability to spend money next season

and the season after that. You see, caps are interesting now. They went after Nikolai Euler's Carolina offered the extra year. We've talked about this and he goes to Carolina. In honor, Timmy Panarin, he chooses the Los Angeles Kings. That's why I think we can look at the caps and say,

okay, so looking for a winger. Okay, so looking for a winger with some skill and some speed. And that's why I don't know what is. I keep coming back to Jordan, You know, it's a team that's not fast. It's a team that wants wingers. And what do we know about Jordan Kairu? He's fast and he's a winger.

And probably could use a change of environment. And I'm pretty sure that St. Louis would only be too happy to afford that to him. That one just makes too much sense to me, which means it probably won't happen. Yeah. Well, look, I think Kyru's, the sentiments are the same from his side as well, that he's open to that move, open to that change of scenery. I haven't gotten the sense. It's a direct request, but I think both sides understand where things are at. So whether it happens ahead of the deadline or around draft time, I think that's a real significant possibility.

Speaking of guys with term, just cycling back to Calgary for a quick second, their veteran group is a pretty tight-knit group. And Raspis Anderson's out. It looks like Coleman is very likely to be moved ahead of the deadline. Cadre, I wouldn't put him to that percentage, that high. But there's a good chance as well. I think very good chance for Coleman, good chance for Cadry. You know, Hubey's done for this season with his injury. If I'm McKenzie Wigger, I'm looking at this.

It's a great question. That's a great question. Why am I here for another five years? Like that hasn't happened yet. They haven't approached him about his no trade. He has a full no trade, not a no move, full no trade. And there's already some reports of Ottawa and whatnot. But there are other teams.

And the Sends have been kicked. the tires on Weger for the last couple of seasons. I, hang on there, just pause on Weger. I'm pretty sure that Dorian had something with Weiger. Yes. On the draft floor at Montreal. Do you recall that one? Because there were a number of moves.

There were a number of moves. Because he made the De Brinket move and we're all waiting for Dorian to do one more. And I'm pretty sure that it was Weiger. Now, again, different owner, different manager. I get it. But that just sort of, when you said Ottawa and Weager, I'm like, hmm, it wouldn't be the first time. I can't remember.

I can't remember if it was that draft or maybe the Vegas draft, which would have been after. But where they cycled back and Josh Norris's name had been popping up for Calgary. This is obviously before last season when they traded them for cousins. But I think like Ottawa's interest goes back exactly to that period. Local guy, I think he'd be open to it based on where the, you know, the team is heading or at least the direction that they want to be going in. Yep.

But it hasn't circled back to him or his agent yet. But that's the one that I'm really curious about. If we see something that's kind of like, whoa, oh, that's interesting. We know there's heat around Coleman and Cadre and Ryan Lomburg and, you know, probably a couple others. But Uighur is the one that I'm wondering, if all these guys are out, what's the point of keeping and when you can get a pretty good haul for him? and I think it'd be open to it based on the situation, I should say. Okay, a couple more Canadian teams will let you get on with the weekend here.

Edmonton, Toronto having conversations? Yeah, there was some word out at Edmonton that leading up to this freeze, that they have been having discussions with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I don't know the specifics of where they're going. I'm going to speculate a little bit. And it wasn't Bobby McMahon. I know there was a lot of attention and a lot of speculation surrounding Bobby McMahon. going into the week, I know they hadn't spoken, about McMahon.

But it sounds like maybe it's a Niccois, maybe it's an Oliver Ekman-Larsin, those are two that I would not be shocked if they've poked on, but I was told by a couple people that the Oilers and Leafs had conversations leading up to the deadline, the freeze, Deadline Jr., and that might be something to keep an eye on going out of the break and closer to actual D-Day. Timu trade deadline, we'll just call it. Timu trade deadlines.

We'll call this one. And last one, listen, no surprise, Montraud, Canadian, still frisky in the marketplace. What happens here? There was all the talk of the center, center, center, need a two C, need a two C. That has dissipated. At least the urgency to do it has

because of the performance of Oliver Capitan. That second line has been great for the haves. with Demadov and Slavkovsky's really been driving that one, which if you're a Habs fan, you're like, finally, good. He's been, yeah, taking a little bit of time. And maybe it's just the progress. It really hasn't been that long. He's not that old.

But great second line unit for the Canadians. The need now seems to have shifted to that first line right side. You have Caulfield, you have Suzuki, and they've been intertwining guys. Docs seen time there, Texier seem time there. I'm curious what they do with Linae as well. But it looks like that's where they're going. As if in a perfect world, that's where they want to go.

I'm wondering, do they circle back again for like the fourth time to St. Louis about Cairo, who we talked about earlier? Do they go in that direction? Do they look somewhere else? And then what do they do with Lining? They've got too many bodies on this roster. And there's not enough room. Similar to L.A. to a certain extent.

They've got too many bodies there for what they're trying to do. And Kenny Holland, maybe he slipped. I don't know why specifically mentioned Fogel, but that's now everybody's looking at that. I think from the Canadian side, they've got, again, too many guys on this roster. New Hook's hurt. He's coming back. They've got to fill some spots for some of these guys.

So I wouldn't be shocked if that's the direction the Canadians go. That being said, they're not pushing this. They're not forcing this. If it happens for them now, great. if they don't do something along those lines ahead of the deadline, every indication I've been given is Kent Hughes is totally fine with just being like, look, we like this team. So we're going to sit back and maybe it's a summer.

If we can do something around draft like they've done before last year, Bull Duke and Dobson, maybe that's where they focus on if they can't pull something off. Now they're comfortable with this roster moving forward, but it seems like at least the immediate need, or I should say want more than anything, it's a want, not necessarily a need. It's not too C.

it's that right side on that first line. Let me close on, let me close on this one. A player of Leon Dreisdell's stature, when he says something about getting saves and coaches, that gets taken really, really seriously. Now, the Olympic break might just brush everything under the rug here. But do you see that having any effect on what Stan Bowman does?

Like there's all kinds of talk about Mark Stewart and who heads up the defense side of the bench for Chris Nalblock. The goaltending has been an issue. But like, look, like if the goaltending was an issue with Stuart Skinner and the goaltending is still an issue with Tristan Jari, it's like the old joke. You know, there's one jerk at every party, but I don't believe it because I've never seen the guy. It's like, well, maybe the prime, maybe the movie's you, right? It's like I can't help but think. If every goal that comes in is the wrong goaltender. maybe the problem is not the goalie.

I'm what I mean? I've been saying this for all season, because I was told in the offseason, that the concern for this team going into this year was defense and not exclusive to the decor, just overall team defense. It's been lagging, and it's been lacking. And it's a big reason, in my opinion,

why they have struggled in their zone and why it looks like the goaltending at times looks awful. When they've been healthier, they really got things going. They played a more structured game. When they had Jari come in, everybody was clicking on all cylinders. And then eventually that shifted

because it didn't seem to be sustainable and clearly it's not. I think Stan Bowman, I know there's a lot of talk of top six guy and top six guy, I think they're more focused on bringing in a body on that back end that has at home capabilities from yesterday year. Since he had that surgery, he's still very reliable defenseman, but he's not the same type of player he was that made him so beneficial

and so worthy on that high worth. The actual words escaping me. But valuable is effectively it. They need somebody as a shutdown type of defenseman that I wouldn't be surprised if they look to add ahead of the deadline, and then somebody in that mid-six that can play a strong two-way style that can help. Now, obviously, they don't have cap space.

So moving Manjapani is going to be one of them. I'm very curious as to how they go about this. Maybe that center is the Niqua in Toronto that perhaps are looking for or another piece elsewhere. But I think it's more focused on the defensive style of hockey versus having to add any more offense and fire to that roster because click you know a switch and leon and connor just handle everything themselves i'm surprised that the banji apony thing has gone on as long as it has i'll be honest

to the deal i thought i thought this would have been dealt with weeks weeks ago um and for whatever reason it's it's still there for the uh edmonton list that's why they continue to be one of the most interesting teams to cover all right uh the weekend is yours now what are you doing this weekend in advance of olympics what are you going to do like no games to watch this weekend or sort of just sitting around what do you do you do? What do you got up going up your sleeve? Unwinding a little bit. There is some hockey, not just at the NHL action.

So I'll be, the Marleys are playing Springfield tomorrow in Toronto afternoon game. So I'm actually going to go check that out. Nice. See that game. And then Super Bowl Sunday. So Monday might be slow, but we'll see how this one goes. I could care less who wins this thing, to be honest with you. But I'll be watching and beverageing as well.

and to hockey parents, psycho hockey parents out there, you know what you can get on Super Bowl Sunday? Cheap ice. Everybody cancels their sheets, man. You want your kids to go skate? Super Bowl Sunday, cheap ice, baby.

All right, you'd be good, Dave. We'll talk in seven days. All right, you too, buddy. Take her. Great stuff from Dave Panyoda. As always, here on a Friday afternoon here on the sheet. Always appreciate Dave stopping by the program. Follow them on social media. listen to the show with our fan Gaffar Wednesdays at 3 o'clock Eastern DFO Rundown Insiders edition.

It is must listen to. Okay. Zach, how's it going? It's great. It's been a good show today. I've enjoyed this. Yeah, we've hit the Olympic break. So we've hit the Olympic mark.

So here we go. Olympics on the horizon. We'll start to get goofy about it next week. But you have a final thought on the season. so far, because this was like the benchmark, right? Like, get to the Olympics. It's going to split the season, even though it's not the exact

halfway point, but let me get back in its trade deadline. Anything that you've been able to glean from the season surprising or otherwise? That this is a very, very, very weird year, which I know is

not like anything profound, but I was looking at yesterday the standings at the conclusion of the games yesterday and David Alter and made a point of it as well like you're currently sitting here watching the first and the second place teams in the Pacific have the same number of wins as the Toronto Maple Leafs who it's not just like the media I don't want to say the media like Leaves fans everybody's declared the Maple Leafs dead they have the same wins as those teams they are ahead of the Oilers in points percentage and we're talking about making trades back and forth because

the oilers are a contender and the maple leaves are dead so we've got to I'm just I just and I'm just picking that one example sorry I'm picking that one example but it's everybody we talked about Columbus and the heater they're on Buffalo could they cool down now is this the wrong time it's like the one year where just it feels like everyone has life and it's kind of made everything about this season that much more exciting because on any given night somebody loses somebody else wins and the whole picture shift. So it's been a lot more entertaining than years past whereby all-star break, you know what the first-round matchups are.

Yep. No, it's true. It's been in any season where the defending Stanley Cup champions are probably not going to make the playoffs, and then you wonder who that opens the door for. That's always a massive, massive story. And it looks like the cats are there. Man, did they get the barn doors blown off for them last night by Tampa?

Yeah. That game has been coming for a while. That exact game has been coming for a while, and Florida did not like it. Yeah, I was watching yesterday. I had it on one screen, and I was finishing up a video that's going to come out on Daily Faceoff tomorrow on another. So make sure to subscribe here to the channel for everybody. But it will drop tomorrow. I'm finishing that, and I've got the audio kind of just playing on the game, so I'm keeping tabs on it.

And all I hear is, like, Goalhorn, okay, they line up at center, and then shortly after Goalhorn and my girlfriend and goes, did they score again? Yes, they did. The same team? Like, yes, they did. Yes, they did. Over and over. Yeah, that one,

it was exciting. The good thing about that is, even though it was a blowout, there was no dull moment. Basically, the dull moment came after the 10-minute break, trying to figure out, who all the penalties were handed to. It's like, oh, can we just please do this?

Like, that's the one. What is he called? Thunderbug, he's handing the chair over? Like, he is like, all right, even that provided some entertainment. I'm so glad you mentioned that. In a lot of ways, I'm not a huge fan, although I can be talked into it about having the eyes in the sky, the official that, like, has the horn that he or she can blow to stop play

because the officials on the ice miss something. There's one area of the game where I want the eyes in the sky to be sorting out and sorting out quickly, and they can, a lot more than the people on the ice. We don't need to wait 10 minutes to sort out penalties. No, we don't. It's just brain numb. It's just so draining.

Like if you can have like two officials on video watching it again, maybe have quick input from the referee. I don't know, but like, oh, man. That's why I like when the officials just say, okay, everybody's got a 10. Go. Yeah. There's one thing, one thing.

And I'm sure you'll partly agree with this. that would change it. If they played the audio live from their conversation sorting out the penalties, it would make it much more interesting. Because we, I mean, we've been on the ice. People who,

anybody who's played or refs, people who've reft or anything who's been around it knows what those conversations could potentially be like where they're like, I saw this guy do that. I saw this happen here. I'm this, he deserves this penalty for that. And then hearing them break those things down in that moment would be cool

to have going live. but I kind of also feel like if they put a mic on them, it would get turned down a little bit from what would make it actually entertaining. But it would still be fun to hear them actually try to sort it. That would be way more interesting to me than having a mic on players just saying, let's f and go, boys. Here we go, boys. Let's up and go, boys.

Okay. That's, wow, awesome. No, give me the discussion amongst the officials. That's the goal. gold and them there. That's the candy. That's where the candy is. Put the mics on the officials.

Well, when I was at, I think it was the first year I was there in the OHL, we did OHL games. They had the mics hot between the officials and the war room upstairs on calls. That was really good. It was odd. This is the coolest feature I've ever seen in hockey.

And it got killed. Yeah. But the conversation was great. No, I like that. That would be cool, yeah. Yeah, that was awesome. Okay. You got one for today?

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please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2,600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. Shine on you, Crazy Diamond, Zach. So I think it's, I think I've said this before. I have one of my best friends. He plays pro hockey over in Sweden. He used to play in Switzerland, and he always would tell us, you know, you got to come visit. You got to see what this place has to offer. And it's a little difficult for me because I can't go while he's playing.

I can never be able to go because I'm always working. You know, I cover the Leafs and now we're doing the sheet. So it's been difficult to get over there to Switzerland. And the one other thing that I was thought about. Is this Jonathan Ang, by the way? Is this Jonathan Ang, you're talking about, by the way? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

Well, Markham Waxer, Jonathan Aang, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Second round traffic of the Florida Panthers, Jonathan Aang, is that they have the same? Correct. Okay, I'll continue, continue. Well, the one thing that I've always kind of had a hard time with, you know, is like, oh, my girlfriend wants to go to Italy

and Portugal and these places, and it's like, oh, man, they have things that Canada just can't offer. And, you know, Switzerland is beautiful, and it would be amazing to see, but I always think the scenery, they've got that, and then cheese and chocolate, It's great, but what's always separated Canada from the rest in Switzerland in particular is the Poutine. Marie-Philippe, Daryl, Wattz, and Canada.

I love it. I love it. One and a half tomorrow against Switzerland and the woman's hockey for everybody. I did have a look at the fan duel and I'm like, oh man, I'm going to have a hard time. You're at a little panic. Here's your homework. I want to see Aaron Ambrose on one of these. Oh, I try.

I was thinking about how I could do this. I'm going to have her in at one point. Okay, you got to get Ambrose in on this. All right. Marie-Philippe Palland, Daryl Watts, and Canada, $10 wins 2446. Yeah, the odds of Marie-Philippe plan finding the back of the nets. More likely to happen than not. No insane that is for NHL.

I know. for hockey players in general. I know. Yeah. But she's the clutches clutch player that ever clutched. Male, female. Animal vegetables, we like to say. All right, great stuff.

And one more final thing. First of all, thoughts are with Colby Cohen right now. Filled in for Colby this morning with Johnny Lazarus. Had a great time talk to the producers of the new Netflix documentary about 1980 and The Miracle on Ice. Just when you think you've finally. seen everything about 1980. Along comes a documentary like this one and you learn

more. So A, if you get a chance, I asked the bad questions. Johnny asked the good ones. Go and listen to this morning's morning cup of hockey for that interview specifically. And two, check out that documentary because it's fantastic. If you're looking for something else hockey to do this weekend,

check out that doc. And it's a New York hockey night. Presented by Perasso. Thursday, February 19th, join daily faceoff alongside hockey guests at the atrium inside Ideal Glass Studios in New York City for a night of live podcasts, activations, and giveaways. In partnership with Parasso, Morning Cup of Hockey and Tri-State Hockey Pod will be on location for a night of candid conversation, big laughs, and unapologetic hockey talk. Doors open at 6.30. Tri-State Hockey Pod gets going with a live show at 7.30. Thursday,

February 19th at the atrium inside ideal glass studios 21 and over because people will be drinking, maybe even Zach, if we make it there. Secure your spot, RSVP at nationgear.ca. Johnny was doing the show from his parents' house today, which is where you and I might have to be staying if we end up going. I haven't broken out to John's mom yet, but I'm sure she'll be able to have us. I'm sure she'll be fired up to have us there. Yeah, here we go, boys.

Yeah, fired up. Yeah, here come those two dorks from Canada. Great. Yeah. She'll love it. She'll just love it. Well, yeah, Johnny doing it from his mom's house or his parents' house. That's where I will be in about a month from now from my parents' house doing the show.

That's right. Is you guys, you guys got a new pad? So we're going to get a new look for your background? Yeah, I can't wait for everybody. Oh, I can wait because I don't worry. really want everybody to see it, but I can't wait for the reaction when everybody sees it for the first time. So let me guess.

It's going to be like Matt Sundeen jerseys, Tidomi jerseys, Gary Roberts, jerseys, Al-Miglney jerseys, Brian McKay, Thomas Caberley, Eddie Belford jersey. No, I got to double check. I know one of them is an Alan Stanley jersey. What? Yeah. You have an absolute. Alan Stanley jersey?

Yes, I did. It's taking you so long to tell me this. Oh, you'll see, you'll see. I got... You have an Alan Stanley jersey. That is like the coolest thing I've ever heard out of you. Yeah, it'll be right behind me, and it's autographed to Zach from... Where did you meet Alan Stanley?

My dad got it. So my dad got to, used to go to these golf tournaments through work, you know, the ones that, like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuff would go to be a part of. So he got to do a bunch of cool stuff with some of the players, yeah, and got a bunch of them for me. Yeah, I have a mini baby jersey with all the captains autographs on it as well. So it has former captains, yeah.

So Alan Stanley amongst the history of Toronto Maple Leaf defensemen, what did he do better than any other defensemen in the history of the Toronto Maple Leafs? One face-offs. He won face-offs. Punch would put him at the dot. You know that famous? It's not actually the game winner because that was scored by Jim Pappen. If you go to the 67 video that everybody sees at George Armstrong Empty Net,

the face-off is in the Maple Leaf Zone. I think it's Belvoir that he beats. Look who's taking the face off to win it, the leads to the empty-net goal. Trying to protect the one-goal lead. Who's taking the face off? Alan Stanley. Alan Stanley. You're a guy.

Autographed to Zach. Alan Stanley. Yes. Faceoff. Defenseman taken faceoff sack. He used to happen in the NHL Zach. Ray Bork used to do this sack. But Alan Stanley was the best made belief of winning face off sack.

There you go. That's my gift to you. Now when you go to your parents' rights, you look at Alan Stanley, Jersey, and you go like face off. Newfound respect. Faceoffs. Beat Bellevote. Leaves up 2 to 1. Armstrong gets the empty netter.

Stanley wins a draw. Now you're going to do that. I'm going to have to check out what's there. Just like a smug prick like I just did. Yeah, I'll do exactly that. I got to see what's there. There's another one that's a Leafs jersey. I can't remember right now.

I think you'd be proud of it too, though. I just can't remember which one's on display. So I'll have to ask my dad. We'll figure it out. And then I got a bunch of other cool stuff, a lot of autographed stuff in there. I have like a picture of me when I was like five, six years old.

Me and Wade Belak that's autographed and stuff. Oh, Wade. Yeah. I like many of us in media, we all had great relationships. with Wade Belak. He was, I'll tell a quick

Wade Beelack story for you. I, you remember when Trevor kid played with the Maple Leafs? And Trevor

wasn't exactly the best goaltender, the Maple Leafs ever had. Hard to hit is the saying we like to use

around these parts. So I was playing on a, on a roller hockey team with Michael Landsberg coached it and Corey, his son was on it.

And I remember Belak was on off the record. I was writing for the record at that point. Belak was on one of the shows and it's like, oh, I always wanted to try roller hockey, but I want to go on net. And we're like, dude, we've got to turn him at this weekend.

Why don't you come on? He's like, awesome. I'll be there. I was like, part of us, like, there's no way he's coming. Like, there's no chance. But sure enough, our first game was at 9. I can't remember what rink it was. I think it was in the east end or maybe central Toronto.

I remember what the rink it was. And it was in the summer. And so we're all getting get up. And sure enough, Wade Belak walks in. And he's got Trevor, and he's got Trevor Kids gear. And I'm like, is that Trevor Kids equipment? He's like, yeah, I went by our Canada Center on my way over here to get the equipment.

He's never going to wear it again here. Because he wore it in a roller hockey game. We got, A, we got Wade B. Lack and net. And B, he's wearing Trevor Kids equipment. That's on your go. Wade was the best. Wade was the best.

Honestly, the best guy in the world, man, the world is poorer with his absence. What a guy. You honestly, Zach, you would have loved Wade Belak. He was like, everybody loved him. Everybody loved him. Just a tremendous guy. Anyhow, on that lovely note, you have a great weekend. You too.

Enjoy doing whatever you're doing. You know, reacquaint yourself, perhaps, with your significant other. She's probably there every night, too. Now you just finally notice and get your eyes away from the television. Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, it's kind of funny. Dave said he's going to the Marley's game tomorrow. I suggested we go to the Marley's game tomorrow afternoon.

So, we'll see. Can you like have like any kind of like romantic weekend like or is just got to be like. Yeah, Valentine's his next weekend. Is hockey foreplay for you essentially is what I'm asking. You got to find, I just got to get in the right mood. I've got to find the right game. You know, do we go to, do we go to see the generals play down the street? Do we take her somewhere, maybe we go as far as Kitchener,

go see the Rangers, or do we just stay local with the Marleys? What do we? Some more to life to hockey than hockey. Yeah. Right? Yeah. How about, hey, Zach, how about this? Why don't you ask her what she wants to do?

Well, we're going to the Horseshoe Tavern tonight. Oh, you guys go to the shoe? Horseshoe Tavern. One of the oldest, one of the oldest bars in all of Toronto, one of the greatest. I've seen so many great concerts there. It's an awesome spot. I remember asking my father, who passed away a number of years ago, he went to UFT engineering. And I remember I asked him once, I said, like, what did you used to do when you were at University of Toronto?

Like when you went out with your buddies, he was an engineer. And he goes, yeah, we go out every now and then. We always end up at the horseshoe. There was this guy there with a guitar and a piece of wood, stomped at Ron or something like that. I'm like, you used to see Stomp and Tom at the horse. He was like, yeah, that's it. Stomp and Tom, Tom, that doofus, or something like that. And I'm like, yeah, you know, I hate that hockey song, Daddy goes, yeah, I hate that.

Yeah, I was going to say your favorite song. That was a really bonding moment between me and my late father. Stomp and Ron? That'd a boy, Dad. Stomp and Ron. Miss you, Dad. Miss you, Dad. We can both get together and hate on the hockey song together.

I can't do that anymore, but miss you, dad. On that, we'll wrap things up here for the program. Enjoy the horseshoe tonight on Queen Street, legendary tavern. Hope you enjoyed the show today. Hope you enjoyed the shows this week. Glad to have you aboard. Next week we're talking and going like full off the like, you know, 15 meter tower, diving right into the Olympics.

So that's going to be the focus of a lot of the shows. And as Wachinsky mentioned yesterday, the program here at, you know, 1 o'clock start is kind of nestled nicely in between a lot of games. So watch hockey. Check out the sheet and then go right back to watching more hockey. and ironing the couch with your ass because that's what Olympic hockey is all about. Just sit and watch, dummy.

We'll talk to the next Monday. The sheet back on the air right here. Daily Faceoff YouTube channel wherever you're listening to your podcast right now at 1 o'clock Easter. Have a great week.