The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Canada Stays On Top ft. Brian Burke

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

Brian Burke joins Jeff Marek to recap last night's Canada vs USA game, discuss the success of the 4 Nations Face-Off, the first PWHL fight, and much more...Shout out to our sponsors!👍🏼Fan Duel: ...https://www.fanduel.com/Reach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Learn more at Fizz.ca. Switch to Fizz. So this show is not going to be a trolling show. We saw a lot on social media last night. Canadians had a good time, whether it was Premier Trump, a lot of 51st state nonsense that went around. It was a whole bunch of, well, I guess we have a new province in Canada. We saw it all. Brandon Hagel with a great Instagram post as well. We saw it all, but I said to myself, self, today,
Starting point is 00:01:30 don't do that show. It's far enough removed from the event that all the trolling should be done. But you gotta let me get one in. Zach? This is your time. Their time is done. It's over. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team, the Soviets have screw. This is your time. to hear about what a great hockey team the Soviets have. Screw them. This is your time.
Starting point is 00:02:10 There's a reason why the Americans play that clip before a game against Canada and don't save it until later. Welcome to the sheet. I had to get one in, right? I couldn't, like, I had my little fun last night. 23 people have left the chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tarifical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very cute man. I had to get one in. Can I tell you one more? I swear it's not going to be that show. But I got a text last night from an NHL manager, hold on, because like everybody's invested in this thing.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Everybody's watching this thing. So this manager sends me this text last night. Huh, 51st state beat the original 50. The original 50, Zach Phillips. 51st state beat the original 50. I like that one. That's good. The expansion team.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah. Yeah. Canada's the expansion team here. The 51st state just beat the original 50. That was very clever. One day I hope to have that manager on this program. Yeah, it's a very good one. The original 50.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I got a good chuckle out of that one. Anyway, welcome to the program. If you're watching on YouTube, if you're in the chat, hello, hello, hello. If you're listening on your favorite podcatcher, glad to have you aboard. As a way to send you into the weekend, Brian Burke's gonna be joining us here
Starting point is 00:03:53 in a couple of moments. So before we get to Burke, and Burke is a staple here on Friday, a couple of things that we should go over. Just to sort of recap what we saw yesterday, how much of this, let me couch it this way, Zach. There are moments in your life where you have those where were you when moments,
Starting point is 00:04:11 and you remember exactly where you were when something happened. For this generation, it's probably Sidney Crosby's Golden Goal. We talked about this yesterday. You remember exactly where you were when that happened. Do you think that for Canadians it's gonna be the same with this Connor McDavid goal? Like right away you knew
Starting point is 00:04:30 like when Crosby scored that thing it's the Olympics, it's in Canada, you know it's gonna be a big deal. Everyone's gonna have the where were you when moments. Do you think this is gonna be the same or similar? Yeah I do actually. I did actually think about that last night like when it happened was like will this be something that we look back on? I think it will. It's McDavid's first like takeover moment on the international stage regardless of four nations in a you know meaningless tournament we'll never see this again it doesn't matter you know we tournament will never see this again. It doesn't matter. You know, we're going to remember Him stepping up wearing the Canada uniform in
Starting point is 00:05:11 America against the states with all this surrounding it, you know leading in we we've had our made our jokes and everything about it but it made the game much more important I think for both sides and For a guy like that to step up, like, it's the name factor in it as well. Maybe it wouldn't have had it and it's like if Sorelli scores the goal or, you know, Hagel, maybe it's not the same or De'Von Taves even. Maybe it's not the same. Maybe it matters, but not the same. It's Conor McDavid. That, I think, puts it in its own, you know, tier just by sheer nature of who it was. It's so interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:05:48 87, Mario Lemieux, 76, Daryl Sittler, Leif's Morning Takehead, had Sittler on the show today. The Golden Goal, 2010, Sidney Crosby. You're right. There is something kind of poetic about this one that you go from like Sittler to Lemieux to Crosby to McDavid here. First of all, before we get to the Canadian side of things, and we'll get more into this with Brian Burke in a couple of seconds, if you're an American hockey fan, I know it's a drag, I know that you didn't win, but you're one shot away from this thing.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Like, I don't know if you're an American hockey fan that you're coming away from this one saying like, sure, it stinks that you lost, but like, holy smokes, what a tournament by the USA, right? And now, like if more than anything else, I know Canadians will, and I count myself as one too, like we'll play the, oh yeah, there's another, there's another international trophy, another international title, another international title.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Just go put it over there with the others. Just make sure no one trips on it. But like what a great tournament for the Americans and what a great tournament for a number of players. Front and center for me is Jacob Slavin, who was for my money the best. Slavin and Larkin and probably Slavin for me, butlaven and Larkin to me were the two best American players in the entire tournament for Team Canada. I mean, holy smokes me. Nathan McKinnon was outstanding. McDavid was at times certainly really frustrated but it seemed as if when John Cooper put him with Braden Point everything changed and that line with Mark Stone. Mitch Marner by the end and this is good for your Leafies. Had a really nice tournament towards the end there when they bumped him up. So it was an interesting tournament for a number of players. I'll tell you what, I was talking to someone this morning who said there is going to be, and the exact phrase that this person used was cattle auction
Starting point is 00:07:45 There is going to be a cattle auction For Sam Bennett when he hits free agency on July 1st Like I don't know that Marner gets that far. We'll see that's gonna be a contract situation I think we'll all follow closely and I'll have very level heads about it, but Sam Bennett hits on July 1st. Cattle auction is the phrase that I was given. Also got to mention too because I went pretty much every single day here on this show going over the bad goals that Jordan Bennington had allowed and I don't know about you but as you're watching that game are you saying okay here comes the bad
Starting point is 00:08:21 goal here comes the bad goal here comes the bad goal The bad goal never came as a matter of fact Yeah, some great goal tending from Jordan Binnington no save bigger for me And I'm sure you as well and our viewers slash listeners the blockers save on Austin Matthews and overtime Was yep many feet Yeah, I mean first of all Mitch Murray looked really good passing the puck to Sam Bennett there. If they want to do that outside of international hockey, I'm not going to be opposed to that. Oh, is that right, eh?
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. So what, Benny's going to re-sign with Florida and that's where Marner's going to go? Nice tax-free state. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Oh, you're saying he goes to Toronto. Oh, because he played on the Marlies with Conor McDavid. And that means Conor McDavid is going to Toronto too.
Starting point is 00:09:08 We're connecting dots here, Jeff. Come on. Putting this one together. Yeah, Bennington was unbelievable. The other thing I want to kind of give a shout out to is Carter Hutton. It was every program that he went on, he kept talking about between the ears and Bennington. And he did it in game seven in that building when he was playing for the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And he kind of seemed like he was able to reach back into that period of time and pull that out and find a way here last night. But it was also what Hudson said when I thought it was a good point because I was watching it last night going, wow, it's playing out right in front of us here is, and I heard Colby talking about it this morning, how frustrating it was to see,
Starting point is 00:09:50 not see the Americans change, but they couldn't implement the forecheck the same way they did on Saturday night because every time the puck went down there, Jordan Bennington picked it off, turned it back, made a play in transition. That was so, so key for the Canadians last night not letting them spend so much time in the in their own zone. And that's what John Cooper kept saying you know outside of being a good goaltender we want someone that can handle the puck well take a lot of that pressure off. Okay a lot to get to today so let's get right into it here Brian Burke's gonna join us here in a couple
Starting point is 00:10:18 of moments Daily Outlines presented by our friends and partners at FanDuel and North America's number one sports book app provider. And we're gonna talk a lot about USA and Canada. Brian Burks coming up, he's here every Friday. He will have some thoughts on this one, I'm sure. Some very strong opinions on what we just saw between Canada and the USA, which I would have to imagine now are still the favorites
Starting point is 00:10:40 for the Olympic gold next year in Italy. It's like 300, was it 355 days away or something like that we are until the Olympics. We'll do a Four Nations recap and probably you know might be a good idea to go through some of the players. Some of the players that you know help raise their stock throughout this tournament and spoiler if you're the Dallas Stars, you're feeling really good about one, an acquisition, and two, someone who, you know, is no longer a prospect but has arrived, and I'm talking about Thomas Harley. Things are looking good in Dallas, surprise, surprise. And even though they called it double roughing, in our first PWHL fight last night, and one of,
Starting point is 00:11:27 at our first PWHL fight last night and one of, by the way, one of the combatants in this one recorded what they would call in the NHL a Gordie Howe hat trick. I would call it in the PWHL the Angela James hat trick. We had our first PWHL fight and also Elliott Friedman. I remember him vaguely. Elliot Friedman talking about Miko Ranton and could he be available as a rental come trade deadline? The drama builds there. We'll see what happens. Okay so a couple more things from last night before we bring on Berkey. We should probably actually talk to Berkey about the PWHL fight as well, which was outstanding. Best player in the tournament. So this ends up going to Nathan McKinnon. I think you could have made the argument it should, even though USA didn't win,
Starting point is 00:12:19 it should have, slash could have, gone to Jacob Slaven. Every single game he was phenomenal. And I don't know, you know, Shana Goldman was making this point last night online somewhere where she said something along the lines of we don't need a separate trophy for defensive defensemen. We just need a better way and a better consensus to evaluate what defensemen do and what Jacob Slaven does should be seen on par as to what someone like Quinn Hughes or Adam Fox or Kale McCarr do as well. We just need to have a come up with a better way to evaluate the value of what Jacob Slaven brings, essentially. Anyhow, Slaven was outstanding for USA.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Binnington was great, Nathan McKinnon was awesome, but the big star of all of this is Connor McDavid. And you know, it was interesting on that final play, on the final goal. Let me grab, so I was texting with a defenseman, an NHL defenseman last night and I said like what do you what do you see in that play like give me your eyes on that play and one of the things that I found really interesting that he said, let me grab the text here, he was talking about how Mike Sullivan you know wanted to do the overload on Mitch Marner in the corner. And the best part about the play in some ways was Kale McCarr's hard rim to Mitch Marner,
Starting point is 00:13:56 which caused the confusion because essentially the puck changed sides. And then there's that scramble. Did you notice they did that a few times, by the way? 100%. I just want to point that out. Yes. Yeah, that was set. They had done it a couple times with McDavid getting into the high slot.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And when it paid off, it's nice, but yeah. Puck changed sides, so a lot changes in the defense zone. But I thought this was really interesting because there's a lot of confusion on that play, right? There's a lot of confusion on that one. I know Matthews is taking a beating for this one, but under that Mike Sullivan system, he's gotta go two on one on Mitch Marner in the corner.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Oh, by the way, 2010 to 2025, Canada wins gold, play from the corner out in front, Mitch Marner in the Jerome McGinley slot, and the position, anyway, so here's what he said with that was an interesting point. He said, somewhere Rod Brindamore is saying this, see no confusion if you play man on man, guys may get beats but we
Starting point is 00:15:01 won't lose on a misread. I thought that was an interesting point. Somewhere Rod Rendemore goes, see that's what can happen if you don't play man on man in the defensive zone. You ever thought about that? I thought Fox took a weird path to that one as well especially given that we had seen Canada do that. You know he was standing in the net front and he tried to go around the net on the short side, which would have been the far side to Marner, which just makes it a longer path to get across. And then it makes him a step or two behind getting over to Marner in the corner. The man-on-man comment is pretty funny though.
Starting point is 00:15:41 It's like everyone in the world wants to put their, put some type of comments out about it right away. Oh, Matthew's a bad play there. You know, he's the one who leaves this guy forgets about it. I mean, this is one of the best players in the world and he's also one of the best defensive players in the world. Like I don't think he just had a brain fart in overtime to leave I I think that that was designed you know and unfortunately for them Mitch Marner makes them pay and Connor McDavid gets
Starting point is 00:16:13 an open enough but yeah man-on-man in that situation probably eliminates that Jeff. Somewhere Rod Brindiborris says, see? See? Yeah. You dummies, you go man to man in the defensive zone. You know, one of the things about this one too, I'm thinking in overtime, like Matthew Kachuck is out of the game. Matthew Kachuck cannot play.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Matthew Kachuck cannot skate. And I can't help but wondering, listen, we all admire the Kachucks. And what the Kachaks did on Saturday capturing the spirit of the thing and understanding the moment was incredible. But as much as we want to reward bravery and going out there and against all the odds and leave it on the ice and you know the you know the groin is a long way from the heart, son. Like all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Okay, Herbie. This can't help but think, and I know, right, I get it, my Herbie. This can't help but think. It might be more brave to pull yourself out of the game beforehand. So you know what, I'm not 100%. It's one thing if I was playing in the NHL and like 50% of Matthew Kachak is still better
Starting point is 00:17:22 than a lot of players in the league, but you're playing against some of the best players in the world. Maybe, maybe Cal Conner should have been in there. So I'm watching it over time. He is a one and only Brian Burke and he joins us here on the sheet. Burke, how are you today my friend? There we go. Burke, can you hear us?
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, can you hear me? Yep, I got you all good. First of all, thanks as always for popping by. And two, wide brush thoughts on what you saw last night in Boston. What's going to pop for you? Well, I thought the right team won the game. I thought the U.S. had three great scoring chances and Bennington stopped them all. Canada hit two posts, I think, maybe three.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But they didn't score on those three great opportunities. Austin Matthews had two, Brady Kachuk had one, Benner came through and then they came down and scored bad coverage on the third goal ball coverage. I don't know if man-to-man would have worked on that, I overheard you a little bit. Yeah. But certainly there were three guys out of position there. So, um, I think the right team won. You know, it was, it was a fascinating game and it was a different game than Saturday and actually before we get into last night, just considering that no
Starting point is 00:18:56 matter how you feel about this tournament and how you feel about Canada winning. Um, one of the main things we're all going to take away from this tournament is that nine seconds of glory from Saturday in Montreal. Before we get to last night, because I haven't had a chance to talk to you about this, your thoughts on what we saw from mainly the Kachaks, although JT Miller was trying to get at anybody on the ice as the Kachaks were as well, they ran into Colton Pereyko, uh, unfortunately for, for, for, for his fancies, but do you have a thought on what we saw that really in a lot of ways
Starting point is 00:19:26 galvanized not just the hockey community, but the entire sports community. I mean football's done, the NBA is going through a lazy all-star weekend, and here's the Kachuk boys firing everybody up and everybody is tuning into hockey and it went, Berkey as you know, right into this week. Well, J.C. Miller gave him credit for taking on Colton Freycold, but it wasn't very smart. He was so anxious to get in the fight, he picked a guy out of his weight class. He's lucky he wasn't hurt worse. But I loved it. You know, in my view, we predicted on the show that there would be fights in the eight. And we got that right., and So it was, so it was Colton. So I loved it. I thought it was great. Great way to start a game.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Great emotion. Wonderful. I loved it. You know, a lot is going to be made and rightfully so about this idea of, you know, passing the torch when we go to, and we'll just focus on Canada here for a second, Berkey, when we look at international hockey, you know, there's a line that you can draw from Paul Henderson in 72, Daryl Sittler in 76, to Mario Lemieux in 87, to Sidney Crosby in 2010. And even though those were different tournaments
Starting point is 00:20:52 than this one, it extends now to Connor McDavid. Your thoughts on, I said, McDavid didn't have the entire tournament that he wanted, but boy was he ever good last night. And boy was he ever good against Finland too. Like it seemed like the moment they put him with Braden Point, someone who could kind of think like him and keep up with him, he just had a whole new level that he hit. Bricky your thoughts on Connor McDavid.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Well I think Connor McDavid is the best player in the league by a mile. I don't think it's even close. We've got a lot of great players. You say by a mile, that's really disrespectful to some extent. Say what about Nathan McKinnon? Well we've got a lot of great players. They say by a mile, that's really disrespectful to some extent. Say, what about Nathan McKinnon? Well, we've got a lot of great players, but I think Connor is the best player in the league by a mile. I thought it was appropriate that he passed the torch to Sydney Crosby a scored the goal in 2010.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Now it's Connor's turn. Um, but I look at the evolution of USA hockey and the fact that they can compete at the level they've competed at is remarkable. USA hockey has done a great job. But it was an unfair contest for many of those years because Canada had better teams. Now the World Cup team in what, 96, was a watershed moment for USA hockey because that was their greatest generation, the best group of US foreign players until now that ever played. They came through and won the World Cup in 96. Because other than that, it's been steady domination by Canada
Starting point is 00:22:19 and it continues today. Until this last tournament again, it continues. We've narrowed the gap as the US, as a country. We've produced a lot of great players. We've produced more than we ever had before. But we still, like I said last week, two things. One, Canada still has an arrogance, a good way, a cockiness in a good way that they're going answer the bell in big games. They still have that Second it's really hard to beat a team twice in a tournament They same thing happened to us in Vancouver We beat Canada five to three or five to four and we lost the gold medal game to beat a team twice The same tournament is almost impossible
Starting point is 00:23:02 Let me let me get more on the US page here I was mentioning off the top before he came on that I would be quite comfortable. I know that Nathan McKinnon won tournament MVP and that's fine. I would be quite comfortable if we had kind of an out of the box pick and said, you know what, best player at this tournament, game in, game out, at least for me, Berkey, was Jacob Slaven. this tournament, game in, game out, at least for me, Burkey, was Jacob Slavin. Jacob Slavin, like you can't put pucks under his stick. Defensively he's incredible. The play that he made in front of the net when he did the 180 and smacked the puck off, I can't remember whose stick it was, might have been
Starting point is 00:23:39 McDavid or Nathan McKinnon, was just brilliant and like there's so much like defensive subtlety to his game. Like listen, Larkin was great too, and I'll put him right up there as well. But as far as I'm concerned, the best player I think I saw at the tournament was Jacob Slavin.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Who was the best that you saw? Defensive play is perspiration and offensive play is inspiration. The old cliche that they taught us in high school. Jacob Slavin is a real good hockey player, to Shea of Slaven is a great player. Supposed to be a great kid too. But the tickets are purchased by people that sell tickets, that grab you in, draw you in, not defensive specialists. So I would dispute that.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I gave it to Nate McKinnon, MVP of the tournament, I was fine with that. I'm glad you brought up or mentioned Larkin there a second ago. I wanna read a quote to you. Oh, okay. I'm glad I mentioned Dylan Larkin and used you as a prop to make another point here about Dylan Larkin, Berkey, but here I go. Okay, so this is Dylan Larkin talking about,
Starting point is 00:25:01 this is a tweet from Ryan Clark, talking about how he hopes the foreign nations makes Americans who have skipped the World Championships reconsider. I know this is a special one for you. So this is Dylan Larkin. He said, you know what I think it does? I think we've had a tough time with USA Hockey getting guys to play in the World Championships. I think guys are at home watching this and I hope they're wanting a piece of this talking about this tournament. They got to go to the World Championships, improve themselves and play for their country. We got to start winning that tournament. I think that's where Canada, those guys go and
Starting point is 00:25:35 they play. That's where it starts. Pride for your country, pride for your flag, putting that crest on and going out for games is an unbelievable feeling. This game, the, this grew the game really well, but I hope this pushes guys to want a piece of this. And then the next generation that got to watch this, they're going to watch the Olympics next year. And hopefully there's a different outcome for our country that I feel we deserve. Dylan Larkin, stumping for more Americans to go to the World Championships. Berkey, I'll submit the floor to you on that one. It's great that Dylan said that. It's a real problem for us as a country to get
Starting point is 00:26:15 people to go. I've had people, I begged people to go, I've threatened people, that if they don't go, they'll never be asked again. I was involved with nine national teams. The only reason I haven't added it up myself, but JJ, late, and You want to be on the Olympic team, you got to come. And they still don't come. There's not enough national pride in that tournament. The problem is it's so late. So the season ends, you wait two and a half, three weeks. They ask you to come over to Europe and play. Now you've shut down for three weeks and if you're not in shape or you're nursing an agging injury, you're beat up.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Everyone is at the end of the year. And they say, no, I'm not going. And it's not like they're in great location sometimes. and It's a tough sell and I've, trust me, I've put that team together nine times with David Boyle, Dale Talon, and it's really hard to get people to go. So, Dale is gonna unmute. What do you think the effects of this tournament will be? Like, this thing grabbed the attention of not just hockey fans, but sports fans. Sports fans in general.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Tom Brady is making comments about this. It's on all the highlight shows. Like the political undertones certainly put more attention on it for the obvious reasons. But the games themselves really distinguished themselves in the sports market. And that's why, you know, you mentioned 1996, a second ago, Berkey, and that was, you know, those were the players that were inspired by 1980, right? Those were the guys that I looked at that said that watched a miracle on ice and went was, those were the players that were inspired by 1980. Those were the guys that I looked at that said that watched a miracle on ice and went like, I'm playing hockey. This is so cool. I want to do this.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And the effects of that we saw in 1996. What do you think the effects of this tournament will be? I'm focusing on specifically in the United States. What do you think? Is there any kind of cascading effect that happens coming off of the success that was this tournament and the success of USA? I think first off, we're just gonna build hockey all over the planet.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like the beauty here is we need to keep reinforcing Canadian kids playing the game too. It's getting more difficult to play, more expensive to play. So the fact that Canada could put their stamp on this, that's a huge thing. And at the same time, it helped grow the game in the US, Sweden, Finland, and other countries. I think the overall effect of a popular tournament that's compelling stories, that gets people to watch, that drives all of
Starting point is 00:30:07 and and And we're closer than we've ever been, but good for the Canadians. They, they won that tournament fair and square last night. Okay. Let me ask you, Ann. I thought it should have been a call. Like I was happy how the officials really put the whistles away last night. They, there was one call that they had to make, but it's almost seemed as if the referees went out of their way not to make a call, but it's almost seemed as if the referees went out of their way not to make a call, but Berkey, the blown too many men on the ice call. Like was that too many men on the ice?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Because it wasn't just one. Like I looked at that and I'm like, Canada got away with one there. Agree, disagree. Agree. But I also think that's, and it should have been called, everyone knows it should have been called, everyone that's rational will agree it should have been called. That being said, you dissect, the one thing about officiating, you go back and question two or three or four calls in the course of a game and say that one, that's the number
Starting point is 00:31:01 one agreed, this one is too many men men but there's a hope they let go. To me that just destroys the game. There's no guarantee it would square on that power play, no guarantee it affects the outcome of the game. And then the referees will tell you if you talk to them privately and then I was their boss for five years so there was I would talk to the referees and they'd say yes I let that let that call go, I should have called it, but four minutes after that, four and a half minutes, four minutes and 22 seconds later, they remember. And the encyclopedia, the memories of them, they'll say four minutes later,
Starting point is 00:31:35 I let an identical call go. So for the other side, so I don't think a fish shave was a factor, yes, they should have called that penalty, let's not nitpick this to death. It's my job, Berkey. It's what I do for a living. How long you know me here, Bryant? To me, it's the below the tournament to say, well, they didn't call three men and that's why they lost the game. I mean, come on. Okay, how about the how about the icing that Jack Hughes really beat out at the end there, too? Come on, Jack Hughes won that race. Come on, Berkey All right, we're not going to, we're not going to
Starting point is 00:32:05 nick, nitpick this thing to death here. Um, but I am going to ask you about Jordan Bennington. Now I have, I'll throw up the mayor culpa, but I think it's legitimate. Like whether it's the Essel and El goal, um, whether it's the, uh, geez, who are the other two? Uh, Adrian Kempe goal.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Um, like he, he's like every single, every single game, the Jake Gensel goal, every game there was one goal that Bennington let in that we all said, ugh, he's got to have that. He can't let that one in and when you're playing in a tournament as quick as this and you're playing in a one and done at the end, you can't afford any bad goals. Not only did he not allow any bad goals, there were some 10-bell saves. And the blocker save on Austin Matthews in overtime
Starting point is 00:32:51 was the one that did it for me. Many were saying like, look, he's used to playing big games in Boston. Game seven, 2019, he wins the Stanley Cup for the St. Louis Blues. Do you have a thought on Jordan Bennington through all this? And complimenting that, John Cooper's belief in him, like he did not waver. Aiden Hill was not going in this tournament. It was Jordan Bennington, period. Do you have a thought on all of that?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah, I really believe I said this on the show last week, I think. If not, I said it to a number of other people. I said that I pray there be no goaltending issues for Canada in this tournament whether they went with Aiden Hill or stay with Jordan Minnington I thought it was crazy to talk about switching goaltenders because I thought yeah a couple soft goals but some big games and big overtime saves in these games like this is a big money guy I believe in him and I think he's a half and the faith in the guy like you do. It's nice to see when the player rewards you. So John Cooper said, Hey kid, we're going with you all the way. You're the guy. And Jordan, Vin can respond with a great performance.
Starting point is 00:34:31 That's how it's supposed to work. The guy's supposed to ride out with the beautiful girl on the white horse. Listen, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Patrick one 98 for team Canada. That didn't work out, but Rogie Vacheron, 1976 Canada cup. I mean, there's little Rogie Pipsqueak goaltender who's standing on his head, best goaltender in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:34:50 He was fantastic. Uh, and he didn't waver and played all the games was tremendous. Um, a couple of questions from the chat for you and one that I'm really interested in your answer on this one, this one from Eddie Valleux, he says, uh, Berkey, if you, Brian, were part of Team USA and you knew that Matthew Kachuck would only play a few minutes, would you have dressed someone else,
Starting point is 00:35:16 i.e. Kyle Connor? Like, I admire how gutsy Matthew Kachuck was, Berkey, but at the same time, like you're hurting your team here and you got a 50 goal scorer in a suit. You gotta go, you gotta go realize how these decisions are made. You don't go and say, I might be able to finish the game. You go to the player, I've done this before. Instead of the player, I don't need a hero. I need someone who can play 60 minutes. So if you can only play 10 minutes or 20 minutes, then don't dress. I get 60 minutes out of a guy. Maybe he's not as good as you, but 60 minutes out of a guy is better than 30 minutes
Starting point is 00:35:55 out of you. So don't be a hero. Do not play this game unless he hinders you. And they would have had that discussion, that very exact discussion with Matthew Kachuk And he would have said I think I can go obviously something went wrong He got hit where he pulled something something went wrong We'll find out down the road what it was, but they didn't say oh, we don't care if you finish the game They would have said to him don't go out don't start the game unless you can finish the game And yeah, I'm sure they had an extra guy skating a warm-up. And so now he can't finish the game and Jeff says, hurry to interrupt. But Andrew Castle's one night we were playing in Atlanta. Andrew Castle said he was sick. And I took him aside and said, Andrew, and Cass is a great kid.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Great guy. I said, Cass, you, I don't need a hero here. Don't tell me you can go unless you go. We got an extra forward dress. You take the warm up. You tell me, if you tell me you can go, you got to go 60 minutes. He played one or two shifts. So they can't go.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I was so mad. I'm a yell out in front of the whole team. I said, that's not smart Said I can't cope. I was so mad I'm gonna yell at him in front of the whole team. I said that's not smart. That's not brave. It's stupid. Stupid. And so don't be here. I don't need heroes. I need hockey players. That's a great line. I don't need heroes. I need hockey players. You know there's um in boxing or in UFC when a fighter wants to throw in the towel, but doesn't want to actually say, I quit, there's kind of a, there's a, there's a code that they use. Have you heard this one before, Berkey? So at the end of a round, they'll sit there and if they're getting like mashed
Starting point is 00:37:41 up, the doctor will come over and say like, are you all right to continue? And if the fighter doesn't, the fighter can say, I'll be fine. I just can't see right now. Just let me get my vision back. And the minute a doctor is here in a fight I can't see, the fight's over. Like the fight is, that's code for I want to quit, but I don't want to say that I want to quit, but I don't want to say that I want to quit. Have you been in a situation with a player who essentially wanted to say, I can't go, but because of pride, because of ego, because of toughness, whatever,
Starting point is 00:38:16 the player didn't want to say, I mean, you kind of mentioned a little bit with Andrew Castles, but like that, that really didn't want to say, but was trying to tell you that they couldn't go. You what I mean? Yeah but the doctor makes the final call so the trainer goes out on the ice and he says I can't go he says I really want to finish the game and the trainer or we have a discussion in between periods but the player doesn't get to make that call the doctor says I used to say to my doctors I can I get a witness to testify to this if you want, Jeff, I used to say the last test, I'd say, okay, he passed this test, he passed this test. The last
Starting point is 00:38:53 test I would say to the doctor is, okay, if this were your son, would you let him go on the ice? And if you say no, then he's not going. So we had a test, a divine test, if you will, higher than the medical test going that were your kid Would you let him play that's how stringent it was in my teams and so the docker made the final call and all that stuff I'm not gonna be a doctor. I'm not gonna let a guy be a hero He says look I have serious doubts that this player could finish the game. He ain't playing hmm Okay from Vepsis, question for Berkey.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Who were his standout players from this tournament who elevated their game to represent their country? Before you answer that, can I bring up a name? Sure. Sam Bennett. So, I talked to someone this morning and this was a quote that someone, that someone gave me about Sam Bennett come July 1st. They said even before this tournament but also aided by this tournament there is going to be a cattle auction for Sam Bennett come July
Starting point is 00:40:00 1st. Would Sam Bennett be one of your players that elevated? Yeah, so I would say Sam Bennett, say Dylan Larkin, I'd say Jacob Slavin. I think the usual suspects. The beautiful thing about international hockey is there's always a handful of players that elevate their game. Guys you knew about, like you knew Sid was great, but then he plays like that and say he's even better than I thought. Then there's always some unknowns or little known guys to elevate their play. Tim Gleason was one of those guys for us in the night in 2010. He was a penalty filling defenseman.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Everyone laughed at us for bringing him. He ended up being a really important part of that team. Chris Jury, same thing. So in this tournament, I'd say Dylan Larkin, Sam Bennett. I think Sam Reinhardt at Spots too. He's such a good player. He does all the little things well. His details are awesome.
Starting point is 00:40:54 There is one more name here I want to throw into the conversation because Dallas needs more great players. Thomas Harley looked really good, man. Thomas Harley came in and looked fantastic, Berkey. He really was great. That's asking a lot of a guy to make the team. Yes. Come in as a sub.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Twice. Probably book the holidays, probably go on a cattle or some place. Comes in twice, thrown in, no prior experience, hasn't played with those guys before. So he's got a lot of strange moving parts. The disorientation of flying in, new building, all that stuff. He was excellent considering the circumstances. He was excellent.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I thought he was real good. This may sound weird to some people, but should we throw Brady Kachuk into this mix? Like, Matthew Kachuk is known across the NHL, mainly because of playoffs and you go to the Stanley Cup final of the following season you end up winning the Stanley Cup and we all know about the injuries that he's played with etc. Like the Matthew Kachuk story in a lot of ways has been told but was this
Starting point is 00:41:57 the moment for Brady Kachuk? Big goal, big celebration last night, the fight last Saturday against Sam Bennett in Montreal. He's never found a microphone that he hasn't loved. Like in some ways, this is no disrespect to Ottawa, but he's playing with the Ottawa Senators. He's not playing with like the New York Rangers or the Chicago Blackhawks. Like he's not in one of the massive US markets. In some ways was this a coming out party for Brady Kachuk? I would say no just because I watch out so close to Stevie Stass, Dave Pullman, Dave Pullman, these are guys I really respect. To me Dave Pullman worked for me. But to me
Starting point is 00:42:38 I watched him a lot and Brady Kachuk is a bit of a unicorn for me. So it was not a revelation at all. He's big. He can skate. He's mean. He can make plays. He's a real force every night. And he's, uh, to me, anyone who says, well, you just said, Jeff, there's a coming off party really probably hasn't watched Brady as closely as I have, because this guy is a force every night.
Starting point is 00:43:01 He's a force in nature. And I don't use that term very lightly or very often. You know, when I think about the Ottawa Senators, you know, post a four nations face off here, I keep bringing up the point about net mining and you know what Linus Olimarck has to do, etc., etc., etc. I wonder how much, you know, now with this type of wind at Brady Kachuk's sales, But you know, now with this type of wind at Brady Kachuck's sails, now that he's had this experience with these players in this style of game and in one of the most emotionally laden and charged games we've seen in quite some time in professional hockey in North America, I wonder what this does for Brady Kachuck when he goes back to the Sens and
Starting point is 00:43:44 what this does for Brady Kachak when he goes back to the Sens and what this does for the Sens. Well, I think it's going to elevate his play even more because I think you got to understand when you play on the big stage, it's frightening. A lot of people can't do it and they play well, but not great. A lot of people embrace it. The average player. So people say, did you want the puck in five seconds after the game? Did you want the puck? No, I didn't want the puck. I was smarter than that. I wanted to get the puck to someone who could do something better with it than I could. The average fan, average player, doesn't want the puck. He wants to get the puck to Sid and watch Sid do something special. So for these guys that are willing to grab that moment and say, I want to take that shot, and over you. It's really hurt. Well, to me, I think Braden or Brady is played at that level.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I think he'll elevate his play though, because it's a great boost in the arm when you go in and play with the best players in the world and play at a high level, it gives you a boost. You know, I was having a conversation with someone this morning and we were talking about the Olympics. And I think we look at, you know, the way the games are played at the Olympics isn't like what we just saw at the Four Nations. The way the game are played at the Olympics Isn't like what we just saw at the four nations the way the game is called at the Olympics is not Like we just saw at the four nations. That's why I think we'll see a much better performance by the Swedes for example I do wonder about This and this sort of now gets to the conversation about roster selection, roster composition.
Starting point is 00:45:25 This is something you've always been involved in. Considering the American team had such great success playing what we look at and say is kind of like an old school Canadian game, like it's a bruising game. It's like we're leaving dents on the other team. And that doesn't work at the Olympics. I do wonder if, you know, USA hockey, I can make the same, I could ask the same question about Canadian hockey as well,
Starting point is 00:45:53 looks at the success that USA hockey had at this tournament and says, okay, that's our formula. But, Berky, you've been to millions of these things. You know the way that it's called and the way that it's played in the Olympics is different than the NHL or at an NHL fabricated tournament. How much of that is a consideration now for USA hockey
Starting point is 00:46:17 when it comes to picking the next team? Well, with Nagano, the biggest fight we had about putting the Olympic Games together for Nagano was officiating because I insisted, and Gary Benham backed me up on this, God bless him, I insisted that the NHL referees were the only ones who could work in that tournament. And the IHF fought me on that for months, months and months. It was one of the last fights we were able to win. I said, no, we are not going to have your standard of officiating with your officials. We're going to have NHL referees and linesmen and that's that. And that
Starting point is 00:46:51 continued up until the last couple of years. There were a lot of few Europeans then, but the standard has been NHL. So I don't worry about that so much. I would still take a team that had physical play, that liked to bang, liked to work hard. They don't get the same officiating standard in Europe as they do in the NHL games in Europe. Um, this is the one and done tournament. Uh, don't expect it back. I mean, listen, the evidence that I always point out to people is like, you know, this, the, the, this tournament is not coming back. They don't even have a name for the trophy. It's just, here's the Four Nations trophy. Like this thing is not coming back. Like it's done, the trophy is gonna go into a box
Starting point is 00:47:30 at the Hockey Hall of Fame Resource Center. But now, there will be a consistent and robust international schedule. Like right now, it seems very apparent to everybody that there is a major appetite from hockey fans for a consistent international competition. I mean, and this goes back to the 0405 lockout where it was first discussed.
Starting point is 00:48:00 There's gonna be a robust schedule, et cetera, et cetera. And there've been Olympics here and a World Cup there, but nothing on a consistent basis. What do you think has taken so long? Like when you look back, I mean, you were very involved in 04, 05, obviously, during the lockout, but, and leading up to here, like what sort of kept international hockey at bay? Like I would imagine that the NHL has always realized that the potential gold mine here, what have been the hurdles along the way?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Well first off, anytime you stop a tournament, stop a season in the middle for a tournament, you introduce compression in the schedule. We're going to see that now, between now and the end of the season. The Four Nations or the Olympics, whatever, it introduces compression into the schedule, which is already too compressed. Another pet peeve of mine. So that's number one. And that's the beauty of the Canada Cup was when they first started playing these tournaments, it didn't compress the schedule. They played in September. So that's some consideration. The basketball, the Olympics and basketball are played in the summer. That was always a winter sport.
Starting point is 00:49:05 As I recall, they moved it over for the dream team because they wanted to play in the offseason. I'm pretty sure I'm right on that. So they could always say, we're going to play that tournament in the Olympics. We're not going to play during the Winter Olympics. We're going to play in September. I think they can make that stick if they want to. I know the Olympics are showcased, part of the Winter Olympics. I know people are shaking their heads, but
Starting point is 00:49:30 I think you can make that stick if you wanted to. They're not going to do that, which I don't think they will. Then you have compression in the schedule and you have injuries. So I think there is a one and done, but if they can't get a World Cup, if Russia doesn't come around on this and they can't get a true World Cup, I say keep going with this. Okay, before I let you go, yesterday was a 3-2 overtime final. Team Canada beats Team USA,
Starting point is 00:49:59 but it wasn't the only 3-2 game with an overtime final last night. PWHL, Boston over Ottawa only 3-2 game with an overtime final last night. PWHL, Boston over Ottawa, 3-2. And in the process, Brian, we wondered where and when we'd see the first PWHL fight. We saw it last night. I don't know if you have a monitor there,
Starting point is 00:50:19 but Zach, if you can roll a Teresa Vanisova of Ottawa, Jill Sonnier of Boston in this game. Little push in, little shoving, sticks come down, they have cages so they keep the gloves on. Even though technically they were only given double minors, like Bricky, that's the first fight we've seen in the PWHL. Now also, Vanisova also recorded a goal and an assist. I don't know that we'll call it
Starting point is 00:50:45 the Gordie Howe hat-trick. Maybe the Angela James hat-trick. There's a legendary fight that she had in the NWHL years ago with Donalyn Rosa who was an absolute beast. They still talk about that fight to this day, but do you have a thought on Vanisova and Sulnay throwing down the first fight in the PWHL yesterday? Yeah, well it wasn't really a fight. They kept their gloves on, they kept their masks on. It's pretty hard to want to fight with someone with a mask on.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I know I'm playing high school football, we were told. It's pretty stupid to fight the other cage, people still do I guess. So it wasn't technically a fight. We have players that would like to, the a book to allow fighting like that, like throwing punches. I'm not in favor of it. I'll defer to the players at the end of the day. I think we have too many young girls in our game, so we don't want them to see that. And they'll say, what a hypocrite. He loves fighting in the men's game. Yeah, I do. But I don't think we need it in the women's game. I don't wanna say it.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I do wonder, you know, I've asked various women this. I remember having this conversation with Erin Ambrose not too long ago. I'm like, if you put it to a vote, you know, how many players would wanna go to the quarter visor as opposed to the full cage? And she's like, we're not stupid. We're keeping the cages on.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Not like you dummies playing men's hockey. We're keeping these cages on. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, I told the women this. I told some of the women this several times already since the last two years. This is my second year with the union. I told them, I said, I don't want you to look like me when you're 50.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I've had a hundred stitches in my face. I have broken noses. I had both knees replaced, both shoulders. I don't want my players to look like I do now, hobbling around. Let's keep some sensibility here. Anyhow, so two big three to two games last night, one of the four nations, one of the PWHL.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Bricky, you're the best. Always thanks for stopping by on this Friday. Enjoy your weekend. Final thought on this one, guys are playing tomorrow. Like if anybody, like I don't think anybody would look at Conor McDavid and say like, you know what, we expect you to play against Philadelphia tomorrow afternoon.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I'll be shocked. The guys that show up for the first game, there will be people. They're totally gonna take a day off or two. Yeah. There will be a number of players would show up and play. After the game starts, I'm going to Buffalo on Sunday to see the women play at 4 o'clock and I can't wait to see that again.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Awesome. Love it. All right, Berkey, enjoy the game tomorrow. We'll talk in seven days. Thank you. There he is, the great Brian Burke who joins us here on Fridays on the Sheet. Vaneshoven and Solny. Nice little throw down last night there, Zach. Yeah, not what I had expected.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I woke up and saw that one. First fight in the PWHL. They were throwing them actually. They were throwing them too. I don't think that there's... What's that? I was going to say I wonder if our friend Aaron Ambrose would be in favor of some fighting. I think most of them would. I think most of the athletes would be 100% down with that one. And I don't think that there's video. I did reference the Angela James, Donna Lynn Rose fight from like a million years ago, but that was the one that was legendary.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I don't think that there is any video of that anywhere. But apparently from I remember talking to anywhere. But apparently from, I remember talking to Cassie about it years ago and she was just like that was and they were both so strong, such beasts, that was like a legendary, a legendary throw down the NWHL. Anyhow, congratulations first fight in the PWHL. What I have not asked you about yet is Greta but before we get there, 14 games on the go around the NHL tomorrow it begins in the afternoon I want to remind you that our friends and partners at FanDuel are proud to connect fans to the major sports moments that
Starting point is 00:54:54 matter to them I don't think that anybody would have issue with anybody from Canada or the United States taken tomorrow off. Like you have a look at the Edmonton Oilers at 1 o'clock Eastern they're facing off against the Philadelphia Flyers. Hey Connor, if you want the day take it. You know the Detroit Red Wings are facing off against the Minnesota Wild. Dylan Larkin, Brock Faber like if you need if you need a day if you need to take a day go for it you know your Maple Leafs have a back-to-back they face off against Carolina tomorrow for Carolina, Jacob Slaven, Seth Jarvis yeah
Starting point is 00:55:35 you know what take it easy for your Leafies Austin Matthews who almost ended it was almost a hero and then Mitch Barner playing the role of Jerome McGinley from 2010 with the feed from the corner maybe take the day off we'll see how many guys and end up playing in these games tomorrow but what I wanted to ask you about because I was getting texts and over refreshed pictures from you guys last night how How was Greta? It was a lot of fun. This is the second one, second event that we've had there for the Leafs Nation. This is something we've done across the Nation network, whether it's the Edmonton boys or Vancouver, whoever it is, doing watch alongs and that kind of stuff,
Starting point is 00:56:18 getting everybody together. But it was a lot of fun. I texted you, told you that the bosses were there as well. I was giving them some crap. Did that keep you on your best behavior or were you wearing the lampshade? I'm always on my best behavior. Oh yeah, very good. Yes, yes. Just like a mediocre man is always at his best. Yes, very good. I was giving Jay some crap too. I'm like, where's McDavid being? Where is this guy through 60 like half jokingly?
Starting point is 00:56:49 He's a ghost. Where's 97? The ghost of 97? Where'd he go? Of course. Of course. But yeah, it was a lot of fun. Pretty decent turnout there.
Starting point is 00:57:00 A lot of people from the company, from the network that were there as well. Our friend Steven Ellis was there writing articles and stuff throughout the game as well. So it was a lot of fun. It company from the network that were there as well our friend Stephen Ellis was there writing articles and stuff throughout the game as well so it was a lot of fun it was good event last thing we've got more coming up here in the next couple of months for the Toronto people more Greta parties hang on we just launched was March 8th that was the one that was just put out there yeah so here's the one here's the question that everybody wants to know. Whether it's you, whether it's Alburga, whether it's Stephen Ellis, whether it's producer Vic, speaking of ghosts, who was the one-man conga line last night?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Huh. I don't know, maybe it was me. Yeah, that's maybe it was me. You know the old saying they go they say you know they say there's one asshole at every party but I don't believe them because I've never seen the guy. Yeah. So maybe it was you Zach. Maybe it was you. I think Nick and I had we're probably around the same pace there. I just I was worried that I was going to have lost my voice for today. I was going nuts, Jeff, when that goal went in. The excitement was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:58:13 So there's two things that I never tire of. Crowd reactions in bars of big goals and the Celine Dion Titanic send ups. Yeah, you watched that one today. I'll never get sick of them. They're all, I don't care like what game it is, even what goal, it's never not funny. It's never. I got one of those morning when I woke up.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Every time it's come up today, I've watched it. Yeah, it's so good. It's so good. It was fantastic. Like, look, I was, I'm only too happy to be, have been wrong about the tournament. You know, like I was one of those people like, and I, again, like I'll be consistent about one thing.
Starting point is 00:58:54 The tournaments are one and done. Like as far as Michael Farber said, like it has no history, it has no future. Like, and again, like I'll say the same thing to you and everyone listening and watching right now that I said the Berkey. The trophy doesn't even have a name. Like it's just, and here's the trophy.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And I think, actually, I think it was someone from Belleville that made it. I think it's a Bellevillian who made the trophy anyhow. But it was great. It was awesome. Like I know like Vegas isn't thrilled about having an injured defender you know I'm sure the Florida Panthers Shay Theodore right I'm sure that no I know I'm talking about he
Starting point is 00:59:35 plays defense. I was gonna make a joke but I was gonna make a joke. Are you gonna do an LTIR joke? Yeah I realize I was. Oh sure, he's injured. Yeah. So sometime in April. I stopped myself, but I got too far into being, like getting ready to make the joke. And then I was like, ah, whoops. Preparing yourself to take a swipe at the Vegas Golden Knights. And all right, I'm sure Florida's not thrilled
Starting point is 01:00:03 about Matthew Kachuck, obviously, but these guys went for it. They didn't hold back. Bravo to all of them. There were fights, there were big hits, there was nastiness, all of it. Good on the whole crew. Good on everybody who ended up making this. And again, especially, especially said this wish yesterday.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I talked to Wish this morning by the way, Wish, Greg is fine. Greg is okay everybody, Greg's just having a tough day today but don't worry the the sun came up where he was. But like the Kachak brothers completely understanding and seizing the moment that was Saturday because coming out of this tournament sure everyone's gonna, you know talk about you know, oh Canada wins again blah blah blah blah blah, but If you're the NHL, thank you Kichuk brothers Thank you to all the players who went for it And you know even like Ryan Getzloff on Leafs morning take the other day was saying like we didn't even know if they were gonna If this is gonna they're gonna play it like it was gonna be an all-star game So it's like everybody and he works for the NHL and the Department of Player Safety
Starting point is 01:01:05 We're all wondering about it, but good on the players for going for it. I was only too happy to have been wrong about this one. Only too happy to have been wrong. And we got a great tournament, got some injuries, that's just the reality of hockey. There've never been a tournament, an international hockey tournament
Starting point is 01:01:23 where there hasn't been injuries. There was no reason to believe that they're going to play like this, that there wouldn't be injuries coming out of it. And here we are. The political undertones were the elephant in the room through the entire tournament. And they were clearly there yesterday. They were there with all the trolling on social media yesterday. I think it is called Gulf of Canada now, right? Like, the way you had that, right? Like that is- Yeah, we won that one. Yeah, we won that one, we get the Gulf of Canada.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Like that was legit, right? Like Google Maps is, like we get that now. But it was undeniable through the entire tournament. And it's here to stay. Like, I don't know what you're going to look at and say, like, what was the moment where the animosity between these two countries got ratcheted up to a level where it can never cool off? This was probably it. You know, 2010 was a big one, right? Even Sochi, that one-0 game, was big. And there have been junior hockey eruptions.
Starting point is 01:02:27 We talked about what happened in Ottawa this year in the back-to-back for USA. We talked a couple of different times about the John Carlson goal in Saskatoon. But as far as intense international, lovable hockey hatred, if we can say that, between these two countries and these two teams. This is it. Like I really do have a feeling that... Well, we saw Brock Faber, right?
Starting point is 01:02:51 He was asked about it. What would your 14-year-old self tell your 22-year-old self that you're playing for Team USA against Canada? And he said, he would tell me, you hate Canada. That's what he said on TV. You hate Canada. You hate Canada. You hate Canada. That's what he said on TV. You hate Canada. Hate is the wrong word because they don't think you hate, but it is hate. From a rivalry perspective when it comes to hockey,
Starting point is 01:03:15 yeah, there's international hate there. It was an awesome term. Even in the chat, it's like 11th province, Gulf of Sheed heads. I did that tweet you last night. Oh did you? Did you get the 11th province? Who by the way followed through, yeah I did the 11th province tweet. But Little Willie followed through,
Starting point is 01:03:32 changed his name because we won the bet there. The bet was if US won the tournament, I would have to wear an American hat on the show. Right. And if Canada won he had to change his name from Big Willie styles to Little Willie Styles, which he's followed through with. I see that.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Attaboy Little Willie. Yes. Attaboy Little Willie. Oh, I get a bag of dill pickle chips too, by the way, from Shannon Goldman. Nice. There you go. I'm going to text it right away. So I'm, thanks to Conor McDavid, I'm one bag of dill pickle chips up on the world today.
Starting point is 01:04:04 There you go. Also I saw in the chat here there's people asking like why is this tournament have no future? I'm not sure if they just missed it. I just want to clarify because there's a couple people out who asked. There's quite literally not going to be another Four Nations face off. Like this was determined that they're going to do Olympics two years. The World Cup of hockey correct? That's what it was being called.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah. So although you know what for fact. You know what though? Like how do you ever go after what we just saw? How do you go back to a freaking all-star game or an all-star weekend? I understand that it's important for fans, for kids, for sponsors, like the people that keep the lights on, like all these things are really important. But dude, after seeing that, how do you go back? And here we go, get excited Los Angeles, here comes the NHL All-Stars. Okay. How do you go back?
Starting point is 01:05:03 I'm going to get a little ridiculous. Okay. I'm going to get a little ridiculous. Okay. What if you lose that a bit from the business side of things, but this was so good and so successful for everyone involved and for people becoming hockey fans, people who were already hockey fans, whatever. What if you just get rid of the All-Star game? Okay? Okay. You announce the All-Stars and then every year, because Berkey talked about it with the scheduling, every year that you have these international events, just move the season like two weeks sooner. So that you don't have the insane compressed schedule.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Like I mean I do the Leafs after dark show. I forgot what it was like to have this happen. I swear I'm talking every day and it's like oh there's a game tomorrow and the day after that. I'm like oh my god there's too many. But you know, expand it out a little bit. Give a little bit of a breather. Maybe it helps the regular season in these years
Starting point is 01:06:09 where everything isn't just so compact and the players can be a little bit more refreshed. Maybe the regular season hockey is better. And then on that year where you were supposed to have the All-Star game, it's just a break. And in everybody's schedule, there's just like a built-in break for everybody where it's like four or five days because that's kind of what the players most of these
Starting point is 01:06:27 players get anyways like we're talking about guys going to Cabo and wherever else they're going maybe each team has their own little bye week or just five make it and that's it make it an all-star cruise and it's just like the stars of the NHL and sponsors and people that want to pay exorbitant amounts of money to go on a cruise with the NHL All-Stars for a week down south. There you go. There you go. Don't eat sticks.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Because you're right though. It's going to be a let down. Yeah, totally. It's totally going to be a let down. Let's see who's got the hardest shot. Kuturov passing. We're going to go from the best hockey I've maybe ever watched. The 9 seconds on Saturday to the 9 seconds of Kuturov passing at Skuchapet Arena last year.
Starting point is 01:07:19 One of the biggest atrocities I've ever seen. How do we not do that? We're so stupid, Zach. How did we not do that on this show? The frick is wrong with us? It's such an obvious one. I know, I know. That was, that passing is... We might have to do that on Monday's show. This is a breakdown of that. Versus the nine seconds of glory that was Saturday. What would you rather watch, hockey fans?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Make a choice. So All-Star Games, All-Star Weekends coming back. Oh, God. All right, some great stuff in the chat again. I say bring back the Canada Cup from Sid and keep the all-star game for the kids yeah mr. public plane cooch was all don't give a shit it's epic yeah oh that would give a shit meter low see like that's the thing that it's hard because it's for the kids, but then you see
Starting point is 01:08:26 something like that and it's like, no, what are we doing? Like, this isn't good for anybody. All right. We should wrap it up. Let people get to their weekend. They've had enough hockey. Listen, Four Nations to the players, the organizers, everybody involved. Congratulations. That was, I know it's always awkward getting there sometimes and it's difficult and challenging and a lot of frustration certainly. When you
Starting point is 01:08:54 have an event like that, Zach, one thing that you realize pretty quickly is how hard people have to work to make things go as smooth as they are. There are a lot of things in an event like that that just go smoothly and you take for granted that really like they were basically like fist fights over. Like to get them to go smoothly. And this tournament is no different. I heard from plenty of people like, oh, I hate this person.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Oh, I hate the supervisor. I hate that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just to make things happen. And it came off great. It was wonderful television. It was one of the best hockey experiences We've had in a long time Bravo to the NHL and the Players Association for putting it all together and again Bravo to the players
Starting point is 01:09:33 Without that buy-in without that level of competition That that level of give a shit like none of that none of this is possible. None of this is possible Bravo to all of them and like You get another chance next year America. You know another trophy? Just put it over there. I only have one complaint with how they did everything. What do you got a complaint about? What do you got to grouse about? Montreal. Saturday night. Celine Dion singing the Canadian anthem. Only one thing that would have blown the roof off the place.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Like the roof was rattling, Celine Dion, it probably would have come off. That's the only one. That would have been really good, or Celine Dion singing the Titanic theme live. Conor McDavid. No that would be like what we did at the beginning of the show. Or you do things before. Why do the Americans always play that Herb Brooks it's our time before the games and not save it for later. No trolling, no trolling, no trolling.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Yeah, no none of that. Have a great weekend everybody. Zach and I will be back Monday at 3 o'clock Eastern for the Sheet. Enjoy your weekend. Don't forget Monday morning, Morning Cup of Hockey with Laz and Colby. DFO Live at noon Eastern and then our little act, me, Zach and the chimp. Right there, right there. There we go. That guy. It's kind of like our mascot around these places. Him and Joe Melosh.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah. Okay. That's it. Have a great weekend. Sheet returns Monday, three o'clock Eastern. Until then have a great weekend. NHL is back tomorrow, 14 games, enjoy. Talk to you. Lost all ambitions day to day Guess you can call it a ride I went to the dark man He tried to give me a little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine I'm right against those methods but no
Starting point is 01:11:57 It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixing my mind I do wanna break it I turned on the music I do want to break it I turn on the music It's turned up, up, out of control Sometimes you're on the edge Helping on the things that went wrong
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