The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Cooley and Harley Locked Up ft. Brian Burke & Jonny Lazarus

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Jeff Marek hosts another jam-packed edition of The Sheet, joined first by Brian Burke to break down everything from the Maple Leafs’ tight win over the Calgary Flames to the latest around the NHL. The two dissect Toronto’s early-season identity shift without Mitch Marner, how Craig Berube is adjusting the lineup, and whether the Leafs are finally showing signs of chemistry. Burke also gives his candid thoughts on Nazem Kadri’s play in Calgary, the Flames’ direction under Craig Conroy, and the delicate balance between “retool” and “rebuild” with a new arena on the horizon. The conversation then turns nostalgic as Jeff and Brian revisit Today in NHL History, swapping classic stories about Jaromir Jagr, the Hartford Whalers, and how front-office dynamics have evolved over the decades.Then Jonny Lazarus from Morning Cuppa Hockey joins the show to dive into Logan Cooley’s massive eight-year, $80-million extension with the Utah Mammoth, Thomas Harley’s long-term deal in Dallas, and what those signings signal about both franchises’ futures. The pair also touch on Matthew Schaefer’s dominant start on Long Island, the Rangers’ early offensive struggles, Jason Robertson’s next contract, and why Connor Bedard’s play in Chicago continues to climb another level. It’s a full-ice discussion spanning the past, present, and future of the NHL — only on The Sheet with Jeff Marek.SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Shark Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So I asked this question after Frank Nazar signed his extension with the Chicago Blackhawks. And I'll ask this same question now that Logan Cooley has signed his extension with the Utah Mammoth. What does Connor Bedard's next deal look like? I thought it was 10. Is it more now? Is it more now? Pay attention class. Is it more now for Connor Badar, beautiful hat-trick last night for the Chicago Blackhawk Center? More on these issues coming up in a couple of moments.

Really quickly, the way that I look at the Logan Cooley situation is this. First of all, great deal for the Utah Mammoth, wonderful deal for the player. Walk out of your entry-level deal and bam, $80 million drops on your lap. That's lovely. Here's why I like it for the team. You got your superstar franchise player, and he is quickly becoming that. that for the Utah Mammoth at under 10% of the salary cap. And secondly, and I think we're all on the same page about this by this time,

there is probably no way barring a major colossal collapse that the Utah Mammoth are going to draft high enough that they're going to have to pay someone more than Logan Cooley earns now. We're going to get more into this in a couple of moments with Brian Burke. We'll talk more about that deal. We'll talk about the Thomas Harley deal. We'll talk about issues around the NHL. We'll talk about the Calgary Flames and the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Brian, after all, was at that game. So here it is, the blueprint for the show today. Powered by Fanduel, as always. Download the app today and play your game at Fanduel. And coming up on the program, it's Wednesday. That means the one and only Brian Burke, who joins me each and every midweek program, Johnny Lazarus, from Morning Cup of Hot. you will stop by as well.

We'll get into the Leafs and the Flames. And if you're Craig Conroy, what are you thinking now? And if you're thinking Rebuild, how do you go about it? Again, more conversation about Logan Cooley and Thomas Harley and their extensions. We'll get into some conversation about Matthew Schaefer with Johnny Lazz a little bit later on. And again, I will continue to ask the question. If that's Cooley's deal, what will Brian, Connor Bedard's, Brian Barrard's, what will Connor Bredard's deal look like.

With that, we'll bring aboard the one and only Brian Burke, who joins me each and every Wednesday here on the broadcast. Brian, how are you today? I'm good, Jeff. How are you? Good. I have Hartford Whalers still on my mind, and so I was happy when I see the shot to see the 92-93 team over your right-hand shoulder. I know a team that's near

and dear to your heart. We talked about the whalers last week and the throwback jerseys and playing the Carolina, playing the Colorado Avalanche and the Nords and all that, etc. And we'll see it again in the year. But nonetheless, before we get to the game last night, you went to the Calgary Toronto game. I wanted to get your thoughts on the two big deals that we saw. Most specifically, Logan Cooley,

this one, this one breaking this morning, this one coming to fruition this morning. Eight years, $80 million for the franchise center for the Utah mammoth. I like it because you got your franchise guy at under 10% of the contract and you're probably not going to draft high enough to ever have to worry about someone going over Logan Cooley's number, at least in the short term. What did you make a Bill Armstrong's deal here? I agree with exactly what you said, Jeff. I think that this player has not earned this money yet, but he's going to. If he's a prospective deal, so that we're going to pan out well for the team.

But I think he's overpaid right now for what he's done. But that doesn't mean it's not going to be overpaid very long. I like it. Yeah, he's a special player. And, you know, with Dylan Gunther and J.J. Paterka, it's kind of, they've kind of formed this line that you look at and you say to yourself, like, this has the potential to be one of the dominant lines in the NHL for a long time. And I'm curious just your thoughts. Because I love talking to you about other general managers. You know, one of my favorite hockey books is behind the moves, the Jason Ferris book.

And you're a big part of that. And I'll bemoan to you the fact that, you know, GMs don't talk about, you know, what happens in their day to day lives. and you seldom hear general managers talk about other general managers. Do you have a quick thought on Bill Armstrong here? I mean, in the offseason, it was the J.J. Pertrka deal, and now it's the Logan Cooley deal. Do you have a thought on how Bill Armstrong operates in Utah? Well, he had to navigate through real rough waters in Arizona.

He had a over that was really not in place at all. Didn't say anything really that made sense to me. and so he was flying without clear ownership direction and got that now in Utah. So it seems it moving the right way. They're an exciting team. They're fun to watch. And they won eight to row, I think,

or seven in a row before last night. Seven, yeah. It's an impressive group. And Bill Armstrong, very quiet, diligent guy, real good guy. It's got to feel great, too, if you're Bill Armstrong.

I mean, listen, we all know the situation that was in Arizona, specifically with the last owners and how frustrating that must be as a manager to try to, as you point out, navigate those waters. And you're feeling you're trying to put a team together in your handcuff. We have one arm tied behind your back. And now we get to Utah and everything you see from Ryan and Ashley Smith, we need a, you know, we need a practice facility. Bam, in one year they have a practice facility. It's like I talked to Bill on the show here on Monday and he talked about his job.

job as manager, removing all the excuses. Like every excuse you could have as a player, it's his job to get rid of. That must be a nice environment for Bill Armstrong to walk into after the Arizona experience. It's a great environment for him to walk into, and he's enjoying it very much. I can tell you that. That will get old soon. Apparently, you can turn to the owner and say, can he fix this? It's returning to making deals now.

But for now, it's great. He's a great guy. And the owner seems like a real good guy, too. And he's a massive fan at the end of the day, too. Okay, so Logan Cooley is in at $10 million. I'm just going to run down some of the other key pieces of the future here that have already been locked up by Utah. So Mikkel Cirgachev is in at eight and a half.

J.J. Petrka, the deal with the Buffalo Sabres, and it's 7.7. Clayton Keller, who was done in Arizona, and is still one of the most underrated players in the NHL at 7.15. Dylan Gunther at 7.14, Karel Vemelka, the netminder at 4.75. If you believe in the philosophy of, you know, identify your core and lock them up for as long as you can, and I'm curious if you believe in that philosophy, Berkey, they've done it. Like, that's their core.

And there's other guys that are like, T. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. is going to come in and he's going to be a really good NHLor for a long time. Demetri Simashev is already there. If you believe in identifying the Corps and locking them up for a long time, in Utah, they've done it, Berkey. Yeah, you better be right, though, because those long-term deals age very poorly when they're not right. You've got too much money locked up. The term is what kills you.

The money never kills you. It's the term that kills you. So I think these are all safe deals. I think they'll age well. I think the caps can continue to go up for at least two more years. So I think it's the percentage of cap they work. I don't think they'll like as well, but for now, everything's going right. And the other thing about Utah as well as both the Minnesota Wild and the St. Louis Blues,

excuse me, as the Minnesota Wild and the St. Louis Blues kind of take themselves out early, specifically St. Louis, who just seem like right now rudderless, they've just called up Dallabor Divorsky, Jim Montgomery saying, you know, not only is he going right into the lineup, he's going to be on the power play tomorrow. Like they're trying everything to jumpstart the St. Louis Blues team. And as those two teams struggle out of the gate, there's Utah, saying if you're leaving these points out there, we'll take them.

Like, this has been an impressive performance so far from Utah to kick off the season, Brian. It has been. The coach is a good coach, too. He never gets talked about for the house. He's a really good coach. He's doing a really good job. They got a good team. They drafted well and traded well.

It's a good group. I'm not sure they're ready for prime time yet, but I think they're ready for the playoffs for sure. Yeah, I don't know how far, how deep they get. But as far as like getting some playing time in for a full season and into the playoffs, it seems like Utah is right there. Thomas Harley, a key piece of that blue line for the Dallas stars. In a lot of ways, for a lot of people outside of Dallas, Berkey, he kind of had his coming out party at the Four Nations last year, where he was one of Team Canada's top

defenders. And everybody turned their head and said, wow, Dallas has got another great one here. People in the OHL in Mrs. Saga, James Richmond coached there. They've known about him for the longest time. But he signs an extension. It's an interesting one. It's an eight-year deal. 10.587. And the nuance on this one is he is making more money than Miro Haskinen.

But when Miro Haskinen signed his deal, it was for 10.4% of the cap. Harley's deal comes in at 10.18. So the percentage, as he signs it, is a little. a little less than Mero Hayskin. And even though he's taking home more money. Is this how managers talk? Yeah, it is. It changed about eight, ten years ago.

They started talking about percentage of the cap. And that is the key. The key is not their concrete dollars. It's percentage of the cap. That's how the agents stock. That's how the GM stock. That's the language we all use. Percentage of the cap.

So Harley Steel makes sense, even though it might not to some people. Yeah. It's just to have a, a thought on the player. He's become like really quickly. And again, like last year, the debutante's ball was at four nations, but really quickly

he's distinguished himself as not just one of the top defenders on Dallas, but one of the top defenders in that conference slash NHL. Yeah, I think I want to see more. I haven't sold that this player's as good as he played right away. He was really good. And sometimes that's not

followed up with the same level of performance. I want to see more, but I like this guy a lot. I wonder how he kept one of their wraps. Well, I'll tell you what, it's a good thing you're at the Toronto Calgary game last night because you would not want to watch that

Dallas-Washington game. There was, you've seen this before, Brian. What happens if you go to a hockey game and nothing happens? That was the nothing happens. There was a stretch, Berkey, for 20, I think it was like 23 minutes where the Dallas stars

didn't register a single shot on net and Washington wasn't much better at all. The lone goal in this one was a deflection off Martin Farivari's stick on a centering pass on the corner from Tyler Sagan. As a manager, when you're watching games like that, there's low event and then there's no event. That was a no event game on both sides. Like, what goes through your mind as a manager when you're watching this?

What goes through your mind as you say yourself? I'm sure glad we got their money on the way in. and then fortunately our game we don't have many clunkers they don't have any really bad but when we do we have some really bad games that's where you pray a player will do something a lot of to start a fight or run the goalie do something to get some life in the building there was nothing but for the dallas stars fans they had the one nothing lead that they that they sat on and that was it it was um yeah there's uh that was uh that was um an old brown shoe of a game, as

one commentator is known to say. The Toronto Maple Leafs and the Calgary Flames. Now, before the game, you're on a panel, Ryan Leslie anchoring with Mayday. And I thought you had the line of the night when I think Mayday

said, like, oh yeah, you gave me away like three times two, Brian. You said, like, I gave you the two best moments of your career, Brad May, specifically the Stanley Cup in 2007. What was it like getting back together with Mayday? Oh, he's awesome. What a great kid.

I call him a kid. He's not a kid. We're a great kid. We're a great young man. I had him three different times. He's a key player on all three times I have. I was there for a South of the NHL game in Toronto. Was there for a Stanley Cup?

Great guy. Yeah, he really is. What did you make of the game itself? Like Toronto, Toronto squeaks out a win. Max Domey with a couple of goals. The Maple Leaf still aren't getting any faster as a team. Calgary was close, but no. Gar, Nazim Kadri was good in this one, specifically early.

What did you take away from watching the flames and the Maple Leafs last night? It's Coach Bank. I don't think Toronto has shown any speed as it. I think they have speed, but they're not playing fast hockey. They were a little better the last two games, but they don't demonstrate their foot speed, which they have. They have to dump the puck in differently to produce more puck battles. But I thought Ty Domey had a nice game, a couple of you. One goal was kind of quirky.

And the giveaway for the winning goal for Toronto was a horrible giveaway. And he just stayed to see a team lose a point. It's three to three. They cop the fuck up and then lose the game in regulation. So they caught up a point at a time where Calgary's going to need those points. But I thought old teams played well at times. I thought Calgary's power play looked like a February power play, very quick in the puck around, moving the puck around.

Usually you see fluid movement like that later in the year. What do you think of Nazam? I mean, there's a player that you drafted for the Toronto Maple Leafs back when you're running the whole operation. I thought he, doesn't, I think he's like one player that competes hard every night. Specifically, he has, albeit mainly in losing causes this year for Calgary. But I thought Cadre was really good last night. Yeah, he competes. He likes playing against, he likes the big stage.

He likes playing in Toronto. And he played there before, obviously. He drafted there. Familiar with the big stage, likes the big stage. I thought he competed hard and played well. That video that's made the rounds for so many years about you on the draft floor talking to Brian Murray about trading the pick and you said you're taking cadre, you're not moving it. Murray went and took Jared Cowan, the big defenseman from the Western Hockey League. Can you take us back to that conversation?

Was there like any more from that? Was there like a lead up in the days and weeks before or that just with that conversation? and just sort of drop on you on the draft floor? Well, we wanted to take Madison, but we knew they picked right after us. Ottawa picked. I think we took Nazat 7 and Ottawa was picking 8. Someone else was close behind that was in on us too.

But we came to the floor, and Brian Murray, I felt badly. Once Brian Murray passed, I apologize beforehand, before he passed, and he said, no problem. You didn't even remember hardly. But I thought it was very dismissive and rude to a guy really respected a lot. He said, what about? cabinets. Now we're taking them and kind of sloughed them off. And it turned away and went towards the draft floor. So I thought it was rude to Brian Murray, which I'd never be. I really

thought the world of him. But we were bent on taking awesome. We really liked everything about it. It was a compete level, skill level, character, everything. We had to straighten them out a little bit to get him to play, but we really like them. Incredibly talented player, plays hard. He's one that teams have, you know, called about for a couple of years, at least one year, maybe two, to Craig Conroy with the Calgary Flames. Look, Calgary's in a tough spot this year. They're closer to the bottom than a playoff position. We wonder about Nazim Khadri. We wonder about Blake Coleman, Rasmus Anderson, you know, fill in the blank on veteran players here. I think Nazim Khadri is going to be

a real target for a lot of teams. I've mentioned Dallas, I believe, that there's, that that's that that's a real fit, but it doesn't end with Dallas. There'll be a number of teams, look at me. Listen, his old team, the Colorado Avalanche could be one as well. At this point in his career, based on what you've seen, if the Calgary Flames do move cadre, what are they getting at this point in his career? Well, I think he's still on number of two, center. He can play in the three-hole.

He's good enough, he's competitive enough, he can play in the three-hole. He gives you some jam. That's something that all teams value. He gives you a playoff experience. it gives you an offensive ability. Can you run a power play? I can get a very valuable asset, and I was with a cabbie.

He's got lots of runway left. Yeah. If you're Craig Conray right now, the last week was a tough one. A pair of losses to the Winnipeg Jets, a loss against the Montreal Canadians kicking off this week with a loss against the Toronto Maple Leafs

in, you know, in tough fashion, as you point out, if you're Craig Conroy, A, what are you thinking right now? And B, if you're thinking rebuild, how do you do this? Well, I don't sure. Murray Edwards was the owner I worked for.

I'm not sure that word rebuilds something that's in this vocabulary. I don't think Murray likes that word. I never used it with them, so I don't know specifically. But we were never in a rebuild when I was there. I don't think he's going to have the patience sore the stomach for that. I don't think you will.

So I think it's more, let's see we can do the fix this and keep it going. A lot of teams have managed to avoid the big rebuild as they got better. Yeah. The one mitigating factor here, and maybe I'm overstating this. But I just look at the Detroit Red Wings and that rink, which I don't even think we can call it a new rink anymore. It's a new old rink, how we describe it. It's just a rink that hasn't seen the playoffs.

Calgary has a new rink coming in two years. Is that a mitigating factor here? Like, is the thinking in Calgary, to the best of your knowledge, when we open this rink, we need to be a competitive hockey team? team. We can't be in, you know, year two or year three of a complete tear down. We need to be a competitive squad when we show off the new rank. Well, I've never discussed it with Connie. I never talked to Murray about it. My guess is yes. Any team coming in the new building does not want to be at the bottom. So if you're going to take some steps, we've got two years to do it and take them now so you're a competitor coming out of the gate. It's my guess. But I never talked to Murray

about that. I don't think Murray would be big on doing a total rebuild at all. Mm-hmm. Interesting time. While you were there, it's interesting because we've talked a lot about, you know, what happens with Calgary here? They've never drafted in the top three. They've never been in that position. The flames drafted when you were there drafted four and took Sam Bennett. That would have been the Philadelphia draft. I think it would surprise a lot of hockey fans.

Like this is a team that came over from Atlanta in 1980, and they've never had a top three draft pick, which to me is, astounding, Berkey. Well, it's astounding, but it's astounding in a good way. It means they've always been competitive. I never wanted to have high picks. I told my team, people think, oh, they're tanking. I told my teams when we're eliminated, I said, okay, we've got 11 games left, 12 years left, whatever. Let's try and run the table, win them all.

Let's try and mess up everyone else's playoff hopes. Let's try to knock a couple teams out. Let's change the seeding rankings for a couple. let's be a factor in the playoffs here, but we won't beat. Let's make it hurt for the other teams. Brian, I want to ask you about one of your previous teams as well, and that is the Pittsburgh Penguins. Tough not to cheer for Sidney Crosby,

and now all of a sudden you have Guinea-Malkin. He's heated up. Listen, last year in the first five games, he had 11 points as well. So he kind of does have this in his background, and that is hot starts off the beginning of a season. Last night, a big game against the Philadelphia Flyers, Keystone State rivalry. When you look at what's happening with Pittsburgh right now,

and they find themselves early on in a playoff position, and you look at where Crosby is in the scoring, and you look at where Malkin is in the scoring, what are you thinking? You know these guys, you know this organization. Well, I think the coaching change has really helped. I'm not knocking Mike Sullivan. I'm just saying, I think they respond to the new coach.

They seem to like what he's doing. and he's getting new life out of the old guys. Not to sit and tanger or not just sit and mocking, but tanger too. Russell Tan looks great. He looks like he turned back the clock. So they're playing really well. I could see them standing in there and making a playoff spot again for sure. Really, eh?

Damien is an underrated coach. Yeah. The one thing we wonder about too is, I was using the quote yesterday. It's an old LBJ quote. Plans are useless, but planning is everything. You go into a season and you have a plan and then different things happen throughout the season. So you've got to throw that plan out because plans essentially are useless

and you need to sort of go along with where the season is carrying you. If you're the penguins, if you're Kyle Dubus and the penguins actually find themselves in and around a playoff spot, could we actually see this team adding? Oh, it's way too early to say that, but for sure. The answer is yes, although it's way too early. First off, you're talking about older players. They usually get banged up a little bit. Yep.

So they could calm down a little bit. But, if any, Malkin looks like he lost 15 pounds. I don't know if he did, but he looks like he looks great. It's feeder light, go on well, looks happy. And being happy is a big part of things for, you know, for her to do well. So I can see that for sure. You know what's, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Malkin because that line, and he may be the smallest on it, Anthony Mantha and Justin,

Brazo and Malkin, like, they get out there, and they look like, you know, the Philadelphia Flyers or your main Mariners back in the American Hockey League in the mid to late 70s. They're massive out there, Brian. Yeah, it's good size. I hate big teams. I really hate them. Yeah, you've never been a fan. Never been a fan of four-hour games either. Yeah, we know that about you.

A quick thought before I wrap up with you on a couple of issues. One, there is very much something happening in Montreal, and we've talked about plenty. But the one story that's not getting a ton of attention, as much as everyone is in love with Demidov and Kolkofil with another overtime winner yesterday, and Nick Suzuki with three points, and he's got a point streak going there. Throughout all of this, as much as we thought that Samuel Montembo was going to be a massive story for them this year, if they're going to have success. Jacob Dobish, the netminder,

has been tremendous. I mean, he has played some previous, but for casual hockey fans, that's not a name that just rolls off the tongue. This is like introducing Jacob Dobish. And you throw him into this entire mix with the Montreal Canadians, and you say, something weird is happening here.

How do you see the habs? Well, the future of goalfending is scrambles. It's a signed a bunch of Thai, have tall guys who can play and see who works out. Vegas did, other teams who are down in Colorado, he plays both their goaltenders in one month. I mean, it's unreal. So the Akkadolish is a great story.

And it's a surprise, but it probably shouldn't be because he's big of athletic. He's worked his way up. So now they've got two goaltenders. That's a lovely problem to have. So many problems for Kent and Jeff there. Let me close on this one. A very important win last night for the ball.

Boston Bruins. Morgan Geeky with his eighth goal. He's been a nice surprise for the Boston Bruins. This season, they beat the Islanders five to two. But this is a team that has struggled and has had its issues. If you're the Boston Bruins, at what point are you making the decision? Like, we're in or we're out? Like, do you wait, I think, do you wait 20 games if you're, if you're the Boston Bruins until you start saying, you know what? There's not a lot of there. there, we need to start moving on to see what this second edition looks like, or much like you're talking about with Calgary, do you just say, screw it, we're the Boston Bruins, we don't rebuild here? Well, first of all, I think there's a lot of the second thing. Screw it, we're the Boston Bruins, we don't rebuild here. Second, it's too early to make that call or to get proper value on guys you would move.

You have to move the season along a little farther so teams can properly identify their needs and pay appropriate prices. Right now you won't get appropriate prices. right now you won't get appropriate prices on anyone until the race is solidify a little bit so I'd say wait 20 games U.S. Thanksgiving is always a popular landmark Yeah, they go with that and see what's going on.

Was it for you? Were you always a U.S. Thanksgiving? I watched football in the U.S. Thanksgiving. Yeah, I guess a little bit. Like, no. I just always worried more about how my team was playing at that time. we were fighting well and losing you can live with that for a short period of time I always based my moves on how I thought we were playing as a team

most impressive team to you right now we'll close on that one like we mentioned Utah they've been they've been fantastic the penguins I think are surprising a lot of people here is there a team that either impresses you or you just like watching right now that you look at and you say yeah you know what that's that's my style of team well Utah's fun to watch and they dress a heavy one which I love. But Montreal is the most fun to watch right now for me.

Montreal, they got so many good young players and they play so hard. They're fun to watch. I'm not sure they can keep this up. It has been fun. Let me close with this. Because there's one thing that we do on this show, this hockey history segment. It's a sponsored feature with Uber Eats. And you would be the perfect person for one of these history facts.

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2013 this day in hockey history. I want to ask Berkey about someone. Yep, 2013. Yarmir Yager recorded his 119th career game-winning goal, moving in past Phil Esposito, who had 118 for the most since the 1967 NHL expansion. Awesome. Bricky, I want to ask you a question about Yarmour Yager. When you're with the Vancouver Canucks and you were interviewing, you know, Nolan

and Primo and Ritchie and Sador and Hatcher, all these other players for the draft, what do you remember about talking to Yager? Oh, we got your volume. Hang on, oh, there we go ahead. We got your volume back. Go ahead, sorry. Okay, he played in Prague. He was playing in Claddenham, I think.

He was in Prague for a game, and I took him for an interview at a hotel room. And I said to him, The Army, have you ever been a captain? That's one of the questions that we asked the player. If you're a star player, never been a captain, that's a major red flag. No. And the translator says, he says no.

And I said, I heard him say, no. You don't have to translate that. Why not? Because I've always played with players who are two years older than I am. I thought that's the only good answer to that question ever, ever. As a follow up, were you a fan of him during, he's still playing, by the way. He's still paying. He's never going to make it to the Hall of Fame while he's alive

because he won't stop playing hockey. But did you have a thought on Yager, the player? Well, I haven't in the Calgary at the end. It wasn't a perfect setup for him or us, but he's had a great career. He's a wonderful international player. But one of the greatest players ever, no question. Yeah, he's a horse, and what a skilled player.

Burkey, thanks for giving us a peek of your heart for Wheeler's picture. Love it. And we will talk to you in seven days. You see the Navy sweaters? Yeah, I know. You love those. I know. That's the,

that's the, the Berkey signature, right? Yeah, you got rid of that after I left, too, the Brasmaneves of both. Yeah, but that was on the Anaheim general manager. That wasn't you.

We're not letting you, we're not letting you dive on the grenade for that one, Brian. Thanks, pal. Thanks. There he is, Brian Burke. It joins us every Wednesday

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of Face Off. Download the app or go to Prime Video.com. Someone who also reads that. So our good and Johnny Lazarus from Morning Cup of Hockey, who joins me now. Laz, how are you today? A great job this morning, pivoting with the breaking news of Logan Cooley's contract extension and getting, as you call him Pags, Dave Panyote on the program to break it down. When you first heard it, what were your thoughts on this one? Good for team, good for player, good for both. Where did you land?

Well, let me get my marat glasses on here to talk smart. Talk smart with you. Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on. Can I give you a little tip? I always taught this early in my career. If you want to make someone look smart on TV, put glasses on them and put books behind them. Well, the books I don't have, my girlfriend's artwork. Oh, nice.

Big Willie did say it was dumb take Wednesday this morning on our show, so I thought it's sparting up for your show. Nice. Appreciate it. With the Logan Cooley News, though, I was surprised at the number, like $10 million for a forward for someone who's on their entry-level contracts sounded like a lot. Obviously, I think Logan Cooley will be worth that. But I don't know.

It just, I'm still adjusting to the number, right? Because obviously this day and age has changed. And for someone who hasn't really been around that long, $10 million just sounds like a lot of money, which it is. It is a lot of money. Yeah. But I think the biggest thing too, and, you know, I'm sure there's rumblings out there. I feel like Logan Cooley was a guy who's been very vocal about like how much he loves

Pittsburgh, right? And, you know, how much he'd one day want to go back and play in his hometown. And, you know, I think that was probably something that Utah wanted to make sure they gave him his money's worth. So that question or that thought is kind of off the table at some point, right? Or at least for the next eight years. So, you know, I think Logan Cooley is one of the more younger talented players, obviously on that line right now with Gunther. You know, I and Peraturka, Like those three are clicking really well. And Maddie McConnell came on our show yesterday, obviously, and said, you know, they're one of the most entertaining lines in hockey right now.

So for the mammoth to have, you know, I think six important players on their roster now locked in for the long term, obviously, that's a great direction for their organization. Okay. Let me play lawyer with you for a second. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to try to lead the witness here. Okay.

Is Logan Cooley, the franchise center for the Utah Mammoth? Right now. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like I was like we're all on the same page. If you're a general manager, would you like to get your franchise player locked up at under 10% of the salary cap? See, where that's the question, though. Is he the franchise player?

You know, for me, for me, he is. Over Keller, really. Yes. More of a power position. I think Keller's the better player right now. But I think over the course of this. this deal, Logan Cooley is going to distinguish himself as not just the best player on the Utah mammoth, but one of the best players in the NHL. That's how Halle you think about Logan Cooley.

Yeah, that's my praise. The other part about this one is what Bill Armstrong has done here is he's created a ceiling now. Okay. And here's how it's going to get, here's how it gets reinforced. Do you think the Utah mammoth under this eight-year deal for Logan's, Logan Cooley are ever going to, are ever going to be in a position to draft high enough that they would have to pay someone more than Logan Cooley. What I'm saying is the days of drafting like second overall and third overall, they're done. They're done for Utah.

And what Armstrong has done now is set a bar at under 10% for his franchise center. And that's going to keep getting lower and lower and lower and lower. That's a great point. And he's set that bar now for everybody. And look, Tiji Gendl is going to show up and he's going to be really good for a long time for this team. But they're not going to be in a position. We're like, hey, look, we got Gavin McKenna. Now we're going to have to pay him more out of his entry level than Logan Cooley.

Because, you know, I hate to break the news to Utah fans. He ain't getting Gavin McKenna. You know, so I look at it's like, this is like they've identified the core and they've set their bar. And you know what? If someone pops, what a great problem to happen. half. Yeah. Like if someone does pop, like if Simashev turns himself like one of the best defensemen in the NHL, then wow, what a great problem to have. Wow, we got to pay someone because he's awesome now. Wow, tough problem there, Bill Armstrong. I was just going to say

Simishav's probably the next man up, but like their defensemen are even locked in pretty long term as well, right? I think, and what's their blue line right now? Circuit Shav's locked in for at least four more years. I think after this year, Jersey's got a couple more years on his deal from what I I'm looking at now on my screen to my right. He's got two more years after this year. Marino's up after next year. But Mata and Schmidt are there for another two years too. So their blue line is pretty much steady over the next three, four seasons.

So assuming Simashev, let's say, does thrive and excel, like I think everyone thinks he will. You know, then you're looking at probably that 9 to 10 million, even, you know, whatever range. I still do wonder if Bill Armstrong goes out looking for another right shot D. I know first pairing right shot Ds are like good luck Good luck finding one of these But I like I've mentioned before I thought that if Aaron Eckblad got to market Utah would have been one of the teams

Yeah And then you could have Aaron Eckblatt And Mikkel Sergachev is your top pair Detroit would probably have something to say about that But like think about it right But that's the position they're in now Right now they put themselves in a spot where everybody's locked up They're set for the future and Armstrong can say

I got one target And I'm going to wait to pull the trigger on it and it's a right shot and it's a great point you definitely have changed my track of thinking on it again like

I let the witness no but your point about like they're not going to be drafting top five for hopefully in the next eight years like it's a great it's a great thought yeah I didn't even consider that

there's not going to be anyone that shows up that's like bam out of out of nowhere here you're a better player than Logan Cooley anyhow Thomas Harley The Harley deal is interesting Because this is one where I think you look at Again, you look at percentage of cap

And I just mentioning this with Berkey And he's like, yeah, this is how managers talk And he was saying that, you know, Miro Haskinen is kind of a bar right now for players For defensemen anyhow, specifically. When he signed his deal, it was 10.4% of the cap. Now, Harley's deal is more money, but his percentage of the cap

is 10.18. So you make the argument that Harley, even though he's taking home more money, still signed as far as percentage goes, less than Haskinen. And when you're dealing with something like a rising salary cap as a manager, this is where Jim Nell is brilliant and really one of the smartest GMs. This is how you have to think. Sure, we're giving him more, but we're not getting killed in the percentages, because he's still getting less of a percentage than Mera Haskinen is or was when he signed his deal. That's where Dallas is at on this one. And then we wonder about the Jason Robertson question.

Yeah. I also think of how many people praised the Noah Dobson, Lane Hudson, like one, two combo in their contracts. And I kind of think similarly with how I feel about Haskinen and Harley. Because they're both considered number one defenseman, right? Like Thomas Harley can go to, let's say, 20 other NHL teams and be the number one guy. Do you agree with that?

100%. 100%. And I think people do feel the same way about Lane and no adoption. So having those two guys locked up as well for the amount of time that those guys are locked up, the term is, again, like we talked about it this morning, I think Dallas and this like 2020 to 2030, let's say a window, if they don't get one cup, massive failure, massive disappointment with how their team's been built. I think a lot of GMs and even people like us, Jeff, you know,

I think the last three years we've predicted, or at least I've predicted Dallas to be in the Stanley Cup finals, if not Stanley Cup champions, Jake O'Doncher to be a Bezna trophy winner, Mary Askin and to be a Norris trophy winner. I think everyone has been saying this now for years. So it's about time that they do it. And they've been to obviously, you know, three straight Western Conference finals. Like I said this morning, they were in that cup final in 2020 in the bubble. Like the time is now for the Dallas Stars.

And a lot of the members in our chat were saying that it's very similar to 2010 to 2020, let's say, San Jose Sharks, like that decade of the San Jose Sharks where they were always knocking on the door. So that's what this feels like. But again, they've done a really good job at maintaining this older core of players in Ben Sagan and bringing in Duchenne, but also allowing their younger guys to flourish as well. And I think that's where a lot of teams, or at least the team that I watch the most, goes wrong, you know, because you don't allow the younger players to overtake those positions

from the older guys, although it is also on the younger players to. to go and grab it. Like, Wyatt Johnson has grabbed it. Thomas Harley has grabbed it. These young kids have come in and they've played well and they've performed. And that's why they're given these sort of contracts that Harley has received. So what do you make of the Jason Robertson situation then? Because that's not done yet.

Now he's a restricted free agent. Yeah. I don't know that the Dallas Stars won. it to get that far. I don't think in Jason Robertson's situation specifically you want to go to arbitration with him. So it's kind of incumbent on Dallas

to to either get this deal done or make a decision on what you're doing with Jason Robertson. And I'm pretty sure that they don't want his number to go higher than Miko Rantan or be at

Miko Rantan. I don't think it even You should. Who would argue that it should? I wonder about the Robertson Camp. Yeah. If the Robertson Camp is looking at like crazy numbers flying around, specifically in Minnesota, which I'm sure they're looking at and say,

well, hold on a second here. Have a look at our guy. You probably want either equal to or more than Miko Ranton. I just don't know that Jim Nell is going to do that. Yeah. And it's funny. Like, Colby and I were talking about this today too. And sorry to keep referencing our show.

Okay. but he talks about like how thank you he's talked about how he always feels more comfortable in buying goals versus buying points heard that and with jason robinson you are buying goals like he's he's a prolific at least 30 goal score i know he's put up the 240 goal seasons um you know there's been a bit of a drop off the last two years and granted he had a slow start to the playoffs last year but i know he was also hurt but come crunch time like this guy finds a way to put the puck in the that at least in the early stages of his career like he's still a young guy i mean i think he's what 24 years old uh 26 26 26 excuse me 26 26 yeah um but even with 26 years old versus 24 years old like

it's still a guy who is probably just now or should be just now entering his prime years right like i think we'd all agree on that um but i i don't know because dallas is in this weird window where you need some sort of positive return for a guy like jason robinson but you don't want this situation to get ugly and then end up coming away with nothing. And you would know better than me with these situations like arbitration and whatnot is not something that I have certainly learned a lot about over the years or something. He's got great numbers. He's got great numbers for arbitration. I think that's what would worry the Dallas stars. You never want to put your salary cap structure in an arbitrator's hands, right? And all of a sudden, that's why I mean,

every team, we saw what happened with, you know, Anaheim and Troy Terry is it was a great one. Like they were like, as I understand it, like turning the knob on the door to like open the door to begin the and all of a sudden, bam, the tri-tary contract appears because as an organization, you never want to throw or never let an arbitrator decide what your salary cap situation. Look at Montreal with P.K. Suban. They went in there. They had the hearing. The next day the contract appeared because they're like, oh, oh, that didn't go the way we thought. this could this could really this could really crush us and and Robertson because of what you're talking about about goals and to Colby's point how expensive goals are he he would have a great case for a massive number I don't think Dallas wants to go there I think there's a number they're really comfortable at and I think the mitigating factor is it's a no tax state so if you know if Jason Robertson is looking at ten million dollars a year times eight and he wants 12 million dollars a year but that 12 million dollars a year but that 12 million dollars is in anaheim or new york that 12 million dollars is not 12 million dollars it's that's an interesting point though too jep because i feel like the name that's been talked about a lot and not just by like us by you know people i've seen online is Alex tuck right and they're saying

Alex tuck is now in today's world becoming like that 10 10 and a half million dollar forward and tuck's a guy who again has put up like you know a couple 30 goal seasons but robertson you know this guy has a 109 point year. Granted, that's like somewhat of an outlier because he's more in that like, you know, 80 mid-80s range. But those are all goals. Like, so if, if Tuck we're saying is 10 and a half, then Robertson's number at least starts with an 11, at least.

Depends where it is. Yeah. Depends on where it is. Like, Dallas, like $10 million in Dallas is worth a lot more on your jeans than $10 million in Buffalo. Yeah. It just is. It just is.

That's a mitigating. Tuck's an interesting one, too. because, A, he still hasn't re-signed with the Buffalo Sabres. And his wife is from Western Canada. You know, I do, again, like, I wonder about if he, if he gets to market in July, I wonder about him playing with the Oilers. Really? Wow. Could you not see Alex Tuck playing on the Edmond's?

That'd be scary. Oh, yeah. Like, you could, you could see that. But, again, there's still a lot of hockey and a lot of discussions to happen before. that, but to me, Tuck's one of the more fascinating guys on a day when another, you know, the other Bart, one of the other Bartlett's other clients gets signed in Logan Gully, we're still wondering about Alex Tuck too. There's a few interesting ones out there. Like, what happens with Martin Natchez, what happens with Adrian Kempay? Like Kempay's number keeps going up, up, up, up, up here with the Los Angeles Kings. And is Marty

Natchez, the one guy that says, you know, I'm looking at July 1st and everybody's a cap space, everybody's got money and there's no one to spend it on spend it on me i'll take all of the money that's what i would do if i were him you know again like like there's there's so many teams that are who who were to chicago has seven million 17 million dollars in cap space you know okay okay okay okay here's the question i asked off the top of the show then if frankie nazar is the number that he's at and logan coolly is the number that he's at what's Connor Bedard's number? What is Connor, like, out of all of this, like, they get the first overall pick.

You saw the hat trick last night. Like, they're building the whole organization around Connor Bedard in Chicago. They have all this cap space. I used to, I used to just look at this and say, oh, yeah, he's going to be $10 million easy. I don't say that anymore. I think north. I think north of that coming out of his entry level. Is it crazy again?

Maybe I'll take the glasses off for this one. Doesn't it be stupid? Oh, it's romance time for Johnny. No, this might be stupid. Okay. Would it be crazy to say, if we're saying that Connor Bredd is this franchise piece, you want him to be in Chicago for 15 plus years, spent his whole career there, would you not just give him that like 12 and a half that Connor McDavid got in Edmonton

and like let him be on par with McDavid? you know I like could you be comfortable doing that even though McDavid's is a bargain while Bedard's would not be in the same breath yes that's so that's that's glass a glasses on take I think I honestly I think so remember having this conversation of the combine with someone we were talking about like what the next Bedard deal is going to look like you know he's you know he's coming on coming off his entry level they're building a whole thing around him he's one of the top performers in his eight bracket and he's he's only going to be and he's only getting better and this year you know I know he started off

slow with the goals but there's the hat trick last night and you saw how he scored them specifically that third goal which was an absolute thing of beauty the rush is the rush but like how he how he's able to toe drag that and and shoot it between the defender's legs with accuracy in the NHL level while there's bodies all around him like I'm sorry man yeah like and the shift in attitude what's that and like the shift in attitude that he's brought this year like you know he's not taking any crap like I don't know this is just a different the different version of Connor Bardard that we're seeing and And I'm surprised I haven't seen the conversation yet today.

It's like Celebrini and Bedard's era of the NHL is like forming right before our eyes, right? Because these two in the last week have been lights out. I look at the, I'm curious how you look at both of them. So I look at right now Bedard's, like what drops your job about Bardard is the offense. Spectacular. Like he hits the blue line. Like he gets in the offensive zone, look out. Whereas Macklin Celebrini, even though, you know, we're talking about like, you know, hat tricks here and hat tricks there.

To me, he's a more offensively minded Jonathan Taves. He's great in all three zones, both ends of the ice, defending, scoring, all of it. And he's really smart. And he's a natural-born leader as well. That's how I look at Celebrini. He's that kind of player. So I always sort of fall short of like, let's do the comparison between Celebrity and But they're two different guys. they're two different guys.

Yeah. They're two different players. Just because they play the same position, doesn't mean, and they're similar in age, it doesn't mean that necessarily they're more similar than they are different. They're more different than they are similar.

How do you feel about those two? Yeah, no, I completely agree. You know, with Macklin, there's just like that different sense of hunger, right? Like, he never is out of a play. Not that Badard, like, really is, but, you know, Macklin could score 30 goals around the blue paint.

He could score him one-timing a puck on his strong side flank on his off side plank like he can score from anywhere on the ice where Bardard again like I'm not trying to take away anything from him it just looks different

it's almost like that that Eichel McDavid right like where they get the same things done again no one is in McDavid's league but it just looks different even though the result is almost similar if that makes sense like there's more

flashiness and quickness to Macklin than there is just like grace to Baderd. Like, the way Badaard moves up the ice, just like, it seems effortless where Macklin looks like he's working 110%. Maclin looks like that difference. So, Bedard is fast, but Maclin is sudden. Everything he does is it's a sudden move. Like, you look at that breakaway, the overtime game against Minnesota on Sunday. Like, the minute that puck turns over, that's the first time San Jose touches

the puck the whole overtime. And it's a sudden burst. And that's I see from Sellebrini. Everything is sudden. It's not fast. I mean, it is fast, but it's not, it's not, you can't describe it as fast. It's sudden because it just catches you how quick. It's like, yeah, how just how fast it's like move.

Elusive, I guess, too, yeah. And then he scored that, that triangle goal that, on the, on the shot, like to have the wherewithal to hit that triangle while you're moving, like the Zuccarello goal, like, holy jeez, man. Like, what a supreme player, this young guy. Okay, so one of the reasons why I went almost out of time here, give me like a hot minute or a minute and a half on what you saw from the Rangers last night.

And I've told you before, like Sam Carrick's family is like pretty much right in my backyard. What did you think of Sam Carrick? My neighbors hit yesterday on Connor Garland. Yeah, again, like this is definitely going to sound biased. I know how I sound. You know, like similar to the Wilson. Hedel where like the puck is moved. Garland takes a stride and like in between his second stride, he gets hit.

But like for Garland, it seemed like it was a straight line path where Heidel was like branching off to the left and that's when Wilson got him. So I think that's the difference there. And I'm not trying to get into this conversation again. But Sam Carrick has been, you know, one of the most consistent forwards to the Rangers all year long, you know, has really stepped up and is probably if you talk about worth their dollar or above their dollar, like best contract in the NHL for what he's giving the Rangers at a million dollars.

But the Rangers last night, you know, I thought they were much better defensively. They didn't really allow any high danger chances for Vancouver. And again, like, we're talking about a Canucks team that is now missing Garland, missing for a lot of that game last night. Eight players. Yeah, like it was a depleted Canucks team. So I do want to give the Rangers credit, but I also don't want to take away context here from what the Canucks threw out on the ice last night.

But that said, the Rangers needed a way to win. They needed to find a way to win, and they did. And, you know, that's really positive. but this team right now when it comes to goal scoring, they are lost. And I think a lot of it has to do with their power play. Their power plays four for 28 on the year. And this is something that was their bread and butter for the past couple years. So until they figure out this power play, their offensive woes are going to continue, I think.

Did the penguins win the coach trade? No. It's a good question, actually. It's a good question. They're supposed to say, oh, it's too early, Merrick. It's too early to tell. we still a lot of hockey to play the the penguins probably just needed some sort of change um that's true you know a different feel in the room and the rangers needed someone to tighten

tighten up their defensive structure which they have like they've they've had four really bad games out of 11 games yeah and the rest they've played well they just haven't gotten the result so like i think mike solvin has done a fine job so far they're just not seeing pucks go in but as far as they like the defensive schemes and structure and all that like when they're playing their game they're playing well so we'll see okay last one what do you think of the reception for j t miller last night uh you the perfect reception you boom every time he has the puck then they give them the tribute and you you applaud you say thank you for your time and we really appreciated what you did here but you're now no longer at our team so when you have the puck we're gonna boo you

and it's the perfect reception you can ask for and your thoughts on the picture of him adam foot and Quinn Hughes having lunch and a beer together? What's wrong with that? That's amazing. Old friends catching up. I had no problem with it. I'm happy to see Quinn Hughes out, having a good time. All right.

Very good. I was trying to get into some conspiracy. Talk it on the grassy and all here with Johnny Lazarus. Great job putting on the glasses and sounding smart. Now you know all my old tricks. After that, I got nothing. Not even good looks or shallow charisma. I got none of it.

So you take all of it. Thanks, Johnny. Great job again this morning. That was really good. The way you guys pivoted for the Utah story. It was awesome. And I'll apologize. I have completely stolen Steph Rosner from you.

I know you had him on today and you always have him. But like that guy's the best. Yeah, I love Steph. Thank you for your time. Zach, go J's. Jeff, go Jays. I don't care about baseball, but I'm happy to see you guys happy. Are you just happy to see the Dodgers lose?

Because a lot of people aren't fans of Jays, but just like want to see the Dodgers lose. I genuinely don't know more than two players on the Jays or the Dodgers. so I don't really care about baseball, I'll be honest. But Vick's in a much better mood in the mornings when the Jays win. So for my own professional reasons, for Vic to be in a good mood, I'm happy to see the Jays win, and I want the Leafs to lose every game.

So that's kind of where I'm out. Your morning mental health is tied into the Blue Jays winning, essentially is what you're getting at. All right. Correct. We'll let you get back to your girlfriend's very tastefully decorated apartment. Thank you. And we'll talk to you soon. Continue to success.

I'll be good. Thanks, guys. You too. There is Johnny Lazarus, the one of the one of the, only from the Morning Cup of Hockey, which you should be watching and listening every single day. And today, Steph Rosner, who covers in New York Islanders and does an amazing newsletter called The El Monters, was on, talking about Matthew Schaefer and the Islanders and the goaltending situation with Sorokin and how that relates to Patricua and what would it be like playing

for Patrick Wa as a goaltender, a fascinating conversation. Encourage you to go and watch if you haven't, or if you didn't watch live or listen to it, if you already haven't. And two, a great job breaking down the signing of Logan Cooley this morning with Dave Panyoda, who you will hear in just over an hour if you're watching us live here on DFO Rundown Insiders Edition alongside Erfhan Gaffar. No shortage of things for Dave and Earth to talk about today. Speaking of things to talk about, we got one more thing. We got one more thing, Zacharoo, and that is the sheet is powered by Fandul.

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he kind of like a handsome brother in those yeah a little bit I have to take them off because I'm wearing my contacts you know when you're like a little kid and you put someone's glasses on oh yeah don't do that you're going to feel sick yep yeah so I'm wearing double so I got to take it off but I thought

what if you what if you did like put the glasses on and then took like a big haul of those smelling salts you love so much would that be enough to induce sickness yeah probably it probably would So we're just going to steer clear of that. And that's something you can probably see on the after dark show tonight.

But we're going to avoid that for now because I've got to get to the after dark show. That's important. Right. Gotcha. We got the one game tonight. We're going to get into a second leaf some blue jackets. But before that, it was looking good for you early last night. When I saw Nazim Khadry buzzing in the Leaf Zone, I'm like, this was a creative parlay by Zach.

I bet he's going to hit this thing. But Stamcoast didn't come through. J.T. Miller didn't come through. and for early on, Nazim Khadri didn't come through either. But look good in the game. Yeah, he did. And as soon as he hit the post in the first period, he was around the net. I was like, okay, we've got a shot here.

I feel good about this thing. And then once he didn't score, I was like, okay, I hope nobody scores. Stamcoast took care of that one pretty easily. Look, we've had the conversation a couple times. I might just stay away from that. I might stay real clear of that. Moving forward, respectfully, Stammer, don't think I can be doing that. But yeah, I felt pretty good about it.

Some other people chimed in and were like, okay, yeah, I like this one. Unfortunately, four for three. Nonetheless, I have another creative one for you tonight, too, eh? Oh yeah, what do you got? So you got one game on. Last night, it was 16. Today, one. Yes.

One game. Also, just got to say, I like the idea of the Frozen Frenzy, and it's not like my opinion really matters. that much but i do feel like some other people will agree with me on this one if the frozen frenzy is great needs to be on a saturday or sunday not on a wednesday it disrupts the scheduling i'm again i'm not the schedule maker but it disrupts the scheduling of monday wednesday because i think we had two on monday one on wednesday now and then the other thing which i'll say personal complaint it's harder to watch all of the games when it's 15 minutes apart like i i have the three tv set

up yeah it's 30 minutes is a little bit easier i think because the 15 is like i've got all three games going but now i've got six games on it once and i'm bouncing between and i'm not really getting as much of everything yeah it's like a little difficult so i'd rather the saturday or the sunday i think it makes it easier that's just my personal opinion i don't know if people agree with that but that's kind of my takeaway from yesterday i can ask um steve hatsapetros at the league, the schedule maker, that before they release the schedule, they call you to make sure the schedule is working for your schedule, both your professional and personal schedule.

You know what, that leaf game on a Friday night, not my girlfriend and I are going out to dinner. We've had long time reservations. We're going to have to move that. Thank you. Just to make sure that it just works for your schedule. Thank you. Appreciate that.

No, but I don't know. I mean, I know it's a personal. I would love it. I would love it. I would love it on a weekend, too, just because it's tough to watch all those games. Like, we do it professionally. You know, like, I always get joked out. Like, your job is to watch hockey games, loser.

Like, nice job. But, like, it's my job to watch hockey games. It's hard for people to watch as much as it can. I don't think the idea is that everybody's watching everything. I think it's more like, okay, like, you've gone to the buffet. And you're going to try something you normally wouldn't try or have a look at. But, hey, you're at the buffet and you just paid your 15 or 20. 20 bucks, you can have a little bit of sample of everything.

That's kind of how I look at Frozen Frenzy, whereas normally you might not stay up to watch, you know, the San Jose Sharks and Los Angeles Kings, eh, you find yourself up and I'm going to dip in as part of the whole experience of the night. Or I'm not going to, yeah, I get a chance to watch a 6 o'clock Eastern game. I'll watch Keystone State rivalry here. Or I'll watch the Calgary Flames and the Toronto Maple Leafs

and then all the games in between. Except that Dallas-Washington game. Holy smokes. Nothing happened. I was saying like OV's sitting 899 It's got nothing happened Zero That was one of the games I would tune into

And I was like Okay Still nothing Back to the other game Oh fair of already Tipped in his own goal Okay that's great So the only goal in the game

Really wasn't a goal It was a shot to the pass In front of the net that was tipped Again I digressed The majority of hockey that I saw yesterday and we all saw it was excellent it was really fantastic and I love

you know me I'm a loser to geek that way like I love nights like that it's so much fun but I will pick up what you're putting down about putting it on the weekends that's fun I just think it's a look I know that there's a competing schedule here with NFL and college football and the NHL does not want to go

head to head with that and I completely get that I have no issue like don't do it now wait until I think it was SJ Sharks in the chat not to be confused with the San Jose Sharks official account pointed out that you could wait until like the Saturday before the Super Bowl nothing is happening it's February now I don't think that works this year because I think that's Olympic break but you know the concept of it no college football

everyone sitting around waiting like yeah and then all of a sudden February Saturday bang put all the games on you sit down from noon let's say that's probably most realistic for it to start and then goes all day. That would be nice. Is that when they're doing, is that when they're doing hockey day in Canada? Is that the Saturday they're doing hockey day in Canada? I don't,

I don't know. No, because that's the Olympic breaks. Super Bowl is usually the second week of February. The Olympic break, I think, begins February 5th, and they come back February 24th, think is the dates. so I'm assuming they've had to change this year. Okay. That's our preamble for what you got for me here.

I know how we got on the Hockey Day in Canada, but here we go. Yeah, I don't know. It's also a guess on my behalf. Coldest I ever was was at a hockey day in Canada. I was working at CBC. Winkler, Manitoba. Loved Winkler, home of the Flyers. Great.

Awesome town. Didn't you do one in your own backyard? No, that was during COVID. Was that something else? Yeah, Ron came out. He wanted to shoot a promo for Hockey Day. So Ron came out on the backyard rank With my two kids, TJ and Brody

And skied around and shot it We shot it That was a prom on a Wednesday night hockey show That was kind of cool I was at work and McLean was at my house Yeah That was fun Okay

You ready for this? You remember that? It was only the one game Hockey fan Oh yeah I remember that Vividly yeah This is I'm gonna take a shot here

You know like when a basketball player Or a pitcher even if they get hit early and something doesn't go right and they miss a couple of them and they're like, I'm feeling it, I've got the hot hand. That's what I feel tonight. So this is the parlay I've got for you. I'm taking a shot on one game.

Oh, okay. So I'm getting creative. This is called the I want to play for your team parlay. Chinikov anytime goal, Nick Robertson, anytime goal. Hey God, what are you calling it? The I want to play. for your team parlay. Wow.

So this is Chinikov trying to get to the Tron of Maple Leafs. And this is Nick Robertson trying to get to the Columbus Blue Jackets? Yes. This is Chinikov getting on the Leafs plane after this one. And Robertson getting into a hotel room after this. Chinikov scored 10. Chinikov scored last night against the Sabres. Opened up the scoring in the game.

Second goal of the game. Him and Dean Evanston love each other now. Watch me heat up. and I am an asset you want. I'm a piece you need. Yeah, this one, $10 on this, pays 303. I'm taking a swing. It only needs two guys.

It's the same game. I just, I mean, in all honesty. And Nick Roth, listen, he can fire it. He can, who's in tonight for Columbus tonight, right? Jack Reed's got the game last night against the sword's winning. They won that one in overtime or shootout. All right. I like your themes.

I want to play for your team parlay. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And they also, like, they've been rumored in the summer. It kicked back up the other day. Obviously, there's more pieces that would be involved. I don't even know that this works.

But both guys are looking for a new team, a new spot. They both score here tonight. Don Waddell tree living. They walked down the hallway and they're like, huh, maybe. They get traded after a warm-up. And then they both score for the other team. Against the old team. Hang on, would Fanduel take that?

That would be generational wealth, I think. If I bet Nick Robertson any time goal for Columbus for tonight. Fan do you be like, oh, thanks. Thanks, Philly. Yeah. Thanks, Philly. We've taken all of a dough. Wow, they get traded before the game after warm-up

and they each score for their new team. Why not? We should have thought of this before the show. You love drama, I love drama. Your mic is off, by the way. My mic is off. No, your mic is off. This is the same thing that happened this morning with Steph Rosner.

I don't know. My mic is good for mine. You look funny. I think it might just be you not hearing me. You're talking. You're not making any sounds, at least not in my ears. So why we just wrap up the show? That was a great idea by Zach.

I like that one. I want to play on your team. What would the odds be? Would the line be on them getting traded before the game and then each scoring on their former team? God, that would be hilarious. With that, we will do the thank yous. Starting with you for listening or watching the program.

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