The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Crunch Time for Panarin ft. Peter Baugh & Chris Mason

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Jeff Marek sets the table on today’s episode of The Sheet as the NHL heads into the trade freeze on February 4 at 3:00 p.m. ET, breaking down what it means for teams navigating deadline strategy with the Olympic break looming. Jeff and Peter Baugh dig into the growing buzz around Artemi Panarin and whether a blockbuster move is realistic, which teams could be the best fits, and what other notable players might be in motion as the market tightens. The show also recaps the final slate of NHL games before the pause, spotlighting urgency, momentum, and teams trying to bank points before Milan. Later, former NHL goaltender Chris Mason joins the conversation to unpack the latest out of Nashville following the news that Barry Trotz will step down as general manager of the Nashville Predators. Mason also offers a league-wide look at goaltending trends, performance swings, and what to watch as the season resumes after the break.Leave a voicemail: https://www.speakpipe.com/TheSheetEmail us: [e-mail] TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoffReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We are live on Panarin Watch. I'm trying to think a way to sexy this one up, Zacharoo. I kind of feel, I kind of feel weird because on a show like this where the big story is what's going to happen with Artemi Panarin. And it might be a situation where nothing happens with Artemi Panarin. And if nothing happens with our Temi Panarin, then something has happened with Artemian, which means they haven't traded them. And the discussion continues. And then we'll have the discussion about how long. you're going to hold this guy out, et cetera, et cetera.

But by the time, like, unless you're watching live right now or you're listening to the podcast before three o'clock Eastern or rewatching this on YouTube before three o'clock Eastern, you know what's happened with Pernarne. Yeah. It's a weird show today. So it's a little bit of a little bit of a different kind of show today, knowing that at least the first part may only stand up here for a couple,

of hours. We'll try to blow it out a little bit more. Peter Boss is going to be stopping by here in a second. We're going to blow it out a little bit more. So we're not just talking about the here and now and the right away. Here we go for our Tammy Panarin. But still, like, that's what we're all wondering about here. Um, anyhow. Well, I got some ideas if you want here of what we could, if you want to like make this more than Panarin watch. You are, by the way, you're the star of Daily Face Off this week, not only with after. dark, but morning cup of hockey as well. Others Nation every day, I believe you're on as well.

Like every time I flip on a DFO property, you appear. You're becoming that guy that, you know, if you open the fridge because the light turns on, Zach appears. You know, this morning, I swore, I swore like I put a piece of bread in the toaster and when it popped up, you popped up. I'm like, I thought I had toast. No, it's Zach, because Zach is everywhere. He's in my toaster.

He's in my fridge. He's on my monitor. He's on every screen. You are the star of DFO this week. It's a real big moment. Well, I'm glad that other people want to have me on. I really appreciate that. It's a lot of fun to be able to do these other shows.

But I think that there is a hint of like every time somebody turns on after dark or sees my Twitter account or whatever it is, they're like, that guy's emotionally unstable. We need to get him in front of a camera. And that's where some of this plays into is the Leafs fall off. I'm declaring them dead. The Seattle game, I was just like at peace with it last week. And then they went three in a row and it's like, well, now they're back.

Let's get them on the show. It's ups and downs, the roller coaster of the last couple of weeks. So I think that that's part of what's gone into me being on all these shows. I get it. Listen, first of all, I think it's great for you. I think it's awesome. I'm really proud of you and I'm happy for you. But I want to get back on the Maple Leafs conversation.

Now that they've won three in a row, and again, they're measuring bridges with the flow. fits underneath. You have some ideas about Panarin. What do you write about Panarin? Well, I think we can just call this one because it's percolating, right? Something could happen. We could have a result here by three. The timer is set.

The buns in the oven. The breadman, Panarin, the clocks on. The buns in the oven. Man, you've taken your closing segment of the show to all. whole new level here. You really, really have. And if he doesn't get traded, we have stale bread.

Krusty bread. Well, he's just going to harden up over the Olympic break. By the way, Vince McCogliano from the Athletic, with this tweet, a half an hour ago if you're watching and listening live,

with less than three hours ago until the roster freeze, that's 3 o'clock Eastern this afternoon for those watching or listening live, a word that's come up a few times is, quote, misdirection. It sounds like multiple teams still believe they're in it with Panarin's camp,

hoping someone will blank and up their contract offer. If that doesn't happen, will they take what's on the table, accept the rental option, or wait until after the break, TikTok from Vince McCogliano. So we shall wait and see what happens here. In the meantime,

we'll let you know what's going on on the program today, and that is the blueprint. And the blueprint, as always, is powered by fan do. Download the app today and play your game with Fanduel. And speaking of Fanduel, stay tuned for Zach's Parlay segment coming up at the end of the program, which is quickly turning into the most interesting part of the show. I'll just be blunt.

Coming up on the program today, it is a trade freeze day around the NHL, so at 3 o'clock Eastern, here to talk about everything Panarin. I will be Peter Boff from The Athletic. And we should probably, speaking of blowing things out a little bit more, not just talk about Panarin, but also the Rangers. and also the neighboring New Jersey Devils who are in a bad... Like if I told you the beginning of the season

that it was going to be a disaster for the devils, a disaster for the Rangers, and the Shining Star, Tri-State style, were going to be the New York Islanders. You would have done what? Well, here we are. And also we'll talk to Chris Mason, former NHL goaltender, now analyst with the National Predators.

We'll talk about the fallout and the cascade from the Barry Trots announcement at the beginning of this week. and we should probably park some time with Mace and talk about goalies around the NHL, focusing on a couple of our favorite Russian goalies, maybe specifically Sergey Bobroski with the Florida Panthers. But you know what? You know what the goalie story was last night?

Everybody in Edmonton who watched that Pittsburgh game and said, that's the guy. That's the guy we remember. Not the best of all possible efforts by Stuart Skinner last night with the Pittsburgh Penguins. But nonetheless, really quick, a couple of thoughts here for you. Before we get to Peter and the New York Rangers and Artemie Panarin, what did you see last night that Maple Leafs Oilers game? Anything jump out at you?

I mean, I thought you got a really good goaltending performance from Anthony Stolars, which helped. It's just, it's weird to me to watch because you got tempo and you got pace from the Maple. leaves in that game. And from an oiler side of things, you're not really getting much outside of your top guys. I watched Andrew Mangiopani, who's very clearly not one of Chris Nablos' favorite players to ever put on a pair of skates quickly get banished from the ice in last night's game after he turned one over that led to a leave school. And Trent Frederick, just not producing Yenmark, not producing, it's all on the big boys. And they didn't produce last night. And not to say that they didn't try or didn't look good, but Leon Dreisdell and Connor McDavid held off the score sheet and it's

kind of like, yeah, if you're not getting the goals from those guys, who's it coming from? And the answer right now is nobody. So the Leaves did a pretty good job of shutting down the big boys, credit to some guys who stepped up from the defensive side and Jake McCabe, O'EL, and taking on those matchups. But outside of that, it was pretty much just like you nullified the top guys and you took advantage elsewhere wherever you could. I think you need to change things up. I really do.

Whenever I go on Olders Nation every day and I'm going to go on this afternoon as well, you know, the idea of balancing out the scoring, I know lowering ice time for the big boys has become a huge conversation in Edmondson and we'll get to that, but I do wonder about the pairs and specifically the performance of Jake Wallman.

I've always liked Jake Wallman. I was shocked that Detroit let him go. I was surprised at San Jose did the same and I thought it was one of the more undercover great moves of the deadline a couple of years ago. But Jake Walman looks really slow. Jake Walman like gets beat a lot out there. And I wonder about changing up pairs.

And I wonder, I really wonder about like, I look at Evan Bouchard on the Oilers Blue Line and say to myself, he can play with anyone. Like it doesn't matter who you play with Bouchard. Like Bouchard can play with anybody, right? Like you look at last year in the playoffs, like playing with Brett Kulak, right? Really good.

Evan Bouchard is a really, really, again, you've heard me go on about him so many different times. I know everyone will isolate a turnover here or there or a bad play where he gets, you know, turnstiled against the Minnesota Wild. But Bouchard can play with anybody. I'd do wonder if it's time to mix up the forward group and if it's time to mix up the D-pairs with the oilers. and I don't know that Chris Knoblock wants to do that. Clearly he doesn't, but I do wonder, you know, you have like, you know, three power play forwards,

two of them are penalty killing as well. Are you tiring guys out? Are you burning guys out? Is it time to change things up front to make the, you're scoring a little bit more balanced, right? Like normally I don't really concern myself about Edmonton because we've seen it before. Regular season struggle, that's fine.

They'll turn it on in the playoffs. This one's different, man. Because it's been two years a trip to the final game. You know, two years has been a trip to the final. And you wonder when fatigue really sets in. Well, that's part of what I was thinking about watching last night's game. And not to make this, like, a Leaf's thing. But, you know, after last night's win, you beat Eminton in Ragh.

You're one point behind them in the NHL standings. Now, positionally, it's different because where they're at in the Pacific. So, hey, it's two separate instances. No problem there. But there is an issue taking place. right now and it doesn't feel like the one where it's like, ah, we'll turn it on. Like there are problems throughout the lineup,

whether it's depth that way, if it's goal tending and not getting the stop right now, if it's depth on the forwards, it's just not something that I'm really trusting the same. And we all talked about Florida. Yeah, Florida, they got the, they went on the cup runs, they're tired. Edmonton also was there.

They just didn't hoist the Stanley Cup at the end. So a couple of things in the chat here about some of the comments. Josh D. Penns, I'm good with Stu, still working as a tandem with Artie Shilovs. No one's panicking about Stuart Skinner. It's been a couple of bad games in a row. He's come out and admitted it too, so it's not as if he's bearing his head in the stands. David D. Rosca, 805.9.

Artemey Panarin to the Anaheim Ducks would be a great fit. Listen, there's a Joel Quinville Association there. I don't think he ultimately ends up with Anaheim. Good change, of course. preference, of course, being to one of the Florida-based teams. Here's an interesting one. I want to get to, we'll get to Peter here in a second. Tampa has to pay Darren Radish still.

That's going to be interesting in the era of what JJ Moser just got. Can Darren Radish get the same? You know, this is the first year for his big, maybe his only chance at the big payday in his career here. And he's switched agents too. So that is going to be. a very interesting one to pay attention to. In the meantime, let's get back on the Artemey-Pan-Situation beat, and who better than to bring aboard Peter Baugh from the

athletic to talk all things Panarin and all things Rangers as well. First of all, thanks so much for, are you on the train right now? I am. I'm on the train back from practice. Last time you got me at Marlins Park, and today you did train. I effing love it. I just love it, Peter. Always making yourself available no matter where you're going. Plains trains in automobiles. I really do adore it. So what is the latest on Panarin watch here? As best you can glean, I know that information is tightly sealed, but what's your spidey

sense tell you about Panarin? Yeah, I think it's a big question of what he wants. He holds all the cards here. If there's no laws, he can really pinpoint a team that he wants to go to. And if the Rangers don't make that happen, then Panar and he doesn't. doesn't have to, there's no movement clause. So the question to me is, what does he want? Does he want this done by the Olympic break?

If so, maybe it gets done. If not, then maybe this drags out a little longer, and we'll have a lot of clarity in the next couple hours because the roster is freeze up three. Yeah, this is, like I was saying at the beginning of the program today, like if you're listening or watching this show, after 3 o'clock, you already know what's happened with Artemi Panarin, and maybe nothing is happening with Artemi Panarin,

as I think Peter's Frozen's will have to get Peter back here on board. as he travels back home after practice on the train, which I wish had better Wi-Fi right away. Oh, there we go. We got you back. Like, is there, like, how legitimate a chance is there here that three o'clock comes and goes and nothing happens with Panarin, considering both sides really want a deal to happen here?

Like, it's in the Rangers' best interest, and it's in the player's best interest, too. Yeah, I mean, I think there's definitely a chance. The fact that there hasn't been one yet means it's certainly possible. And it's not like this is the steadfast deadline. Like they'll be able to continue negotiating with teams over the Olympic break and kind of further get a sense of things and then finalize things potentially. So there's no real reason that it has to get done now.

I'm sure, like you said, it's everyone's preference to get some clarity on this. And the Rangers were holding them out of games with, they weren't doing that with the intention of this lingering. But these things are complicated, especially when you get into wanting extensions negotiated in to part of this. because there's almost two negotiations that has to happen. And Aaron has to figure out his team, whether that's the, with an extension or as a rental,

our reporting has indicated that he's preferred an extension. We'll see if that changes based on the options, but that has to be negotiated, and then the trade itself has to be negotiated after that. It does very much feel like in some ways, this is Panarin and his camp. The agent here is Paul Theo Fannis, um,

working towards, a favorable extension for Artemi Panarin, and they don't really have a motivation other than the player wants to get to his new market as soon as possible to acclimatize himself. But if you're Paul Theophanis, it makes sense to wait to see if anyone's going to bite as 115 turns into 130. Eastern turns into 2 o'clock, turns into 230. The question that I wonder about is, I always wonder about things like this, If you're Chris Drury, do you already have contingency trades made with all interested parties, whether it's Florida, Tampa, Washington, San Jose, go right down the list of all the interesting parties?

Or do you think Chris Drury is, I don't want to say starting from zero because I don't believe that? But let's say Panarin comes to an agreement with the Florida Panthers on an extension, how quickly can Chris Drury pull an appropriate trade together and get it filed with the NHL? Or are all these trades essentially already done? And now it's just up to our Tammy Panarin to pick the team based on the deal that he gets. Yeah, that's the question I think everyone wonders.

And I mean, I think Drury has to have an idea of what he wants from all of these teams that are potentially interested in Panarin. But I also think he might not have a ton of luck. leverage here. If Panarin picks a team, he can say, this is where I'm going. Now, jury's one leverage, a bit of leverage that he has right now is time. He can say, well, then I'm not going to do it. I'm going to wait. But you have to think that as the deadline, the actual trade deadline, not the roster freeze deadline, gets closer and closer. He's not going to want Artemmy Panarin walking out the

door for nothing. And the team that's negotiating with him probably knows that too. So it's going to be interesting to see how diminished the return is by Pan Aaron's control over the matter because it seems more like he's, I guess, picking a team than giving the Rangers multiple teams he's interested in. It's free agency for him. He's not playing, but he's still getting paid and he's choosing his team. It's February the 4th and he's a free...

It's like it really is one of the most unique situations that we've seen in the NHL, Peter. Yeah, it's very... interesting. It's funny. I was, I talked to Vladislav Galbrakov a little bit because he was in a somewhat similar situation and that he sat eight games while the Blue Jackets

held him out for roster management before they traded into the Kings. But I can't remember a ton of other examples of this extending too long. I think the NHL generally prefers these things to be have, I guess some, they want them to be imminent

if a guy's going to be held out of the lineup. Yeah. Well, and that's one of the things that wonder about here. Like, okay, let's say 3 o'clock Eastern comes and goes and there's no deal for Artami Panarin. Do they hold them out against the Carolina hurricanes on Thursday as well? And at what point does the Players Association get involved and say, hold on a second here. Peter, to your point, I can understand holding someone out if a deal is imminent. I think we all understand that. But this is getting a little bit long in the day. You know, like the fires are burning out. You're getting cold and you still have a long walk home. Like at a certain point, the PA has got to

say like what are we doing here? Well, that's an interesting point. I think he will sit out tomorrow against the hurricanes. That's been every indication from the Rangers is that this will extend at least until the Olympic break. What's an interesting question for me is like if you're a team that's acquiring him and maybe they don't care too much, but this is a long time without him practicing. If this goes until after the Olympics, that's a long time without him even like practicing

with teammates and stuff. So does he rejoin the Rangers for practice during the Olympic break? There's all sorts of unanswered questions. I think when something's imminent, it makes sense for him to not be around the team. But is he going to want to skate on his own for another full three, four weeks, or however long it'll take until post-Olympics, or will he want to be in games? Will the PA get involved? It gets interesting to long as drags out.

You know, interesting in this one, too. again, it's a unique dynamic where the agent has been given, you know, permission to help facilitate a deal here and a contract extension for the client. If you're Artemi Panarin and you want to go to a team that's a contender, now you know all the offers here. You know who's interested in you. Is it not perhaps in your best interests just to sign? Knowing full well that, you know what, Bill Zito's prepared to offer me this? I have this in my hip pocket. I can join a competitive team

and it's not going to be a team that has to surrender a lot to get me if I go on July 1st. I'm not going to surrender anything other than just the available cap space and we'll still be a competitive team. You know what I mean? Like it's not as if,

like, if the deal, I just make this up, if the deal for the Florida Panthers is like Anton Lundell for Artemmy Pernaran. If you're Atmipanaranan, you say to yourself, well, I don't want to go to a team that's just hurt themselves

to try to get me when I can go on July 1st and we can still be a force. Do what I mean? Like he's in a position here to know what all the offers are, know what's available to him, and keep that team strong. If he looks at all of them and says, thanks, but no thanks, check me out on July 1st. That makes sense. But I think with respect to, I mean, one, I don't know if Lundal might have to be in the deal, but like Green and or Evan Rodriguez or someone like that, with respect to those players,

like Panera wants to go to Florida to play with Barkham and Kacham. Chuck and all those. And I think maybe the, I don't know if it's in his best interest to have this drag out all the way through the end of the regular season. I mean, that's just uncomfortable when you know that your team,

the Rangers, has already made clear they're trying to train you. Damn trains. We'll get Peter back on here for a couple more moments and then we'll get to Chris Mason. We'll talk about the Brad Trots and the National Predators and what that situation is like. But it is like one of the most unique situations here.

Sorry, just finish your thought. out here. The train Wi-Fi is not being our friend. Yeah, I'm so sorry about this. This might have been a bit of a bit of a bit, but I thought I could make a word. I think that one of the things is that Panarin probably is going to want to have some sort of finality and doesn't want to let this linger

for the rest of the regular season. I mean, once a team makes its direction as clear as the Rangers have, you'd think he would kind of want to get Sinclair I'm playing here. Sorry. No, that's okay. Let me ask you one more thing, and then we'll let you let you make you way back home here after practice. Outside of the Panarin situation, which is dominated the headlines in New York, obviously.

What are the other major issues on Chris Drury's desk right now? Yeah, I think the biggest thing is what do you do with Vincent Shrek. That's a guy you could get you a really significant return. Similarly, Braden Schneider could get. you a good return, do you start kind of pulling the trigger on some of these guys with term on their deals? You don't send out the letter he sent out to only trade away your pending UFAs. Like this is probably something bigger. So Trocheck to me is the most interesting because he's in his, he's nearing his mid-30s. It makes a lot of sense for a team to want him and for

him to not fit the Rangers window of contention. So he's the big thing I'm watching. coming out of the Olympic break, but also Braden Schneider and some of those other guys would turn. Schneider, Schneider to Vancouver, Trocheque to Minnesota. Does that sound right to you? I mean, it's certainly possible. I know, I believe Vancouver's had interest in Schneider in the past. I don't know exactly what the trade package would look like going back, but it's going to be interesting. It's crazy times in the world of the Rangers. They haven't won a game at home in regulation since late November, so it's not been smooth sailing. Not at all.

I love the fact that you wanted to do this on the train, and I appreciate it because it looks so cool. Thanks so much, as always, for stopping by, pal. We'll talk soon. We'll follow Panarin Watch here, right to the 3 o'clock hour. Thanks for stopping by today to share your expertise with us. Yeah, I appreciate you having me, and I'll make sure to have better Wi-Fi next time. Talk to the train company.

Thanks so much for doing this as always. Peter Baugh from the Athletic joining us here on the program today. You know, speaking of trades, I cannot, and maybe there's an obvious one. Zach, you might be able to help me out. People in chat might be able to help me out as well. Can you think of a trade that's been more of a disaster for both teams than the J.T. Miller trade to the New York Rangers?

Miller's not having a good year. The Rangers are a disaster. They've already had to put out a letter. They're getting rid of bodies. The Vancouver Canucks story is well told. The key piece going back the other way, Philip Peel can't stay healthy. And now there's another situation with migraines.

I don't know if that's part and parcel of various concussion issues or neck issues coming off of hits to the head for him. And Vancouver is obviously in a position where their season has been lost and they're looking for the best possible draft position. I'm trying to rack my brain the last couple days. to try to figure out a trade that has been so miserable for both sides. And, you know, if you thought that it was going to juice Elias Pedersen, well, guess again, that hasn't happened.

And J.T. Miller gets named captain of the New York Rangers. That has done nothing to galvanize that group as well. I don't know. I can't think of one that I can't think of a trade that's had this negative and effect on both sides of the deal. Usually one side will come out ahead and, you know, one side of like, yeah, you know, this one really worked for us too bad about what happened on the other side of this deal. But both sides of this trade, both teams in the basement. Yeah, I can't think of one that would be as to make it overly dramatic here for, but catastrophic as what this has done for both teams, both organizations.

I'm going to read some to you that were sent in the chat because people are responding. And if you haven't yet, keep sending them in. But, okay, so let's start with this one. Manta for Verona. That one comes up from Dragon Warrior. That was a surprise deal. That was the one at Deadline. It's funny because I always go back to that one.

Because you know who saw that one coming? Nobody. There's always like that trade at deadline that nobody saw coming. mantha for verana and i know it didn't really work out at all but that was the one that shocked everybody no one saw that one coming it was kind of like that uh tomash hurdle san jose to vegas that no one saw coming and bam yeah that one that one just lands the big bob mackenzie scoop bob mcanez he's like he's like he's like he's like the phantom of the opera right he's like mr invisible all season long shows up a trade deadline and boom drops uh hurdle to the vegas golden

I, peace out. Hey, watch this. Yeah, that wasn't. He watched this. Just out of nowhere, the deal is one for one, Larson Hall. Yeah. And no, the other one that's brought up here is Tage fans says a van der Kaine to Buffalo.

You'd have to refresh my memory. I don't remember what went back the other day, so I'm just bringing up. Yeah, but I don't remember what was in the deal. So I don't know if it was as catastrophic. That one I'm just reading there. Nerland Tubes. says Neil for Luchich.

That one was three. Oh, man. That was a great one because that happened just after the Vancouver draft. And I remember asking someone from Calgary, I said, I hear it's Neil for Luchech. And I got one of those. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. And then like a week later, a week later it happened. So the Winnipeg, the Kane deal was Vander Cain, Zach Bogosian, Jason Kasdor, for the Buffalo Sabres for Drew Stafford, Tyler,

Myers. You all are me, or Brendan Lemieux, our first round pick. That turned into Jack Roslick. Okay. That was after like the dust and buffalo and the track suit in the shower and all that. Stuff in Winnipeg. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

Remember that? I forgot. I forgot. Oh, my God. Some of these things being reminded of is just like, wow, that really happens. I'll throw two more quick ones at you here.

Okay. and get to Chris Mason. So these ones are sent in the chat. This one comes in from Josh D. Penns. He said, Brassard to Pitt, Reeves to Vigi, Vegas, sends get Ian Cole and Gustafson. So that one. I don't know if you have a thought on that. And then Jim the Swede, Ulf Dahlin for Ed Belfort, basically led to nothing for both teams.

Yeah. As I always point out with Ulf Dahlin, he was the first guy that I ever saw skate like this. that all the kids do, the 10 and 2, the Mohawk, the whatever, the Crosby. The Crosby, Jeff Skinner would have, of course, done it. Drafted by the Carolina Hurricanes did that with the Kitchen Rangers. But Ulfie was the first. I remember watching with the stars going like, am I seeing this correctly? How is this guy skating?

It's like the coolest thing that I ever saw in the world. And now everybody does it, especially some. Who's that? Antonio Strangis. Oh, God, I'm going deep. Do you know that name? Antonio Strangis? So he is a Dallas Star's prospect.

play with the London Knights. I'm convinced he's never taken a forward stride. Go watch him skate because that's how he's, it's incredible. And like all over the ice. Like honestly, just like do yourself a favor. Just type in like Antonio Strand just skating. It's like that's all he does. It's, it looks amazing.

And he picks up speed fast. Like I'm being facetious. Of course, he's taking a forward stride. But when I think of someone that's like taking what Alfie did and, uh, and take it to the next level. And Tony Strangis is the guy. Okay, I got one more. Sorry.

All right. I take one more to beat the deadline here before we go to Chris. This one comes in. You tell me who you think sent this one. Okay. Matt Hunwick for Colby Cohen. Who do you think submitted that for worst trades? Colby Cohen.

No, that would be. Johnny Lazarus. Yes, there you go. Uh, that's fine. Hi, Lazz. How you doing, Lazz? Lazz a busy guy. Do we have Maye standing by?

Yes, you do. Oh, okay. Well, let's get right to him, man. Instead of what's going on about old trades, it didn't work out for either side. Chris Faison, Nashville Predators analyst on the heels of the Barry Trots announcement joins us. Now, Mace, just before we get into all things Nashville, we were just sort of talking a little bit about Temi Panera and that bled into what's happened with the Rangers. and I don't know that I can think of, I know I'm putting you on the spot here,

I don't know that I can think of a trade that worked out as poorly for both sides as the J.T. Miller deal with Vancouver and the New York Rangers had. Like inside of a year, both teams are in the basement. Rangers have already written a letter to their fans. The Vancouver Canucks are selling everything that isn't nailed down.

Can you think of any deal where it's like both sides want the read or it's like, you know what, both sides are just like, oh, man, why do we make this deal? Anything jump to mind on that one? I don't, again, putting you on the spot here. No, I don't know. You guys are, you guys are bringing some trades. I'm like, oh, I forgot about that one.

I forgot about that one, too. But no, you think, like, with the J.T. Miller trade, you thought he was the way that he was playing in Vancouver, going back to, you know, a team that he'd played with and is established there had a lot of good friendships and everything, that that would have been a great fit. And, you know, maybe the guy that kind of, you know, change the culture and the way that they play, you know, the way that they wanted to, especially with, you know, the coaching change and everything, it almost seemed like it was a perfect fit. And for whatever reason, it's been, it was a nightmare. And I think in the beginning of the season, you know, what, they go, seven games, winless at the garden. And they got shut out like five times.

And it has, it has been an absolute disaster there. And no, I can't think of one that's been that bad with, you know, two. teams that you think were, you know, ready to win or at least compete and be competitive in the playoff mix that just completely tanked. And, you know, you look at Vancouver, maybe it's a, maybe it's a blessing or it's going to hurry up and, you know, change the direction of their franchise. But for the Rangers, it's, yeah, it was, it's shocking to see what, what happened this year for sure. Absolutely. Okay. Let's get to the Preds. I did not see this coming with Barry Trots. You're a lot closer to it than I am. Did you see anything?

coming like this, any whispers in any? Because this one is like the proverbial like Joe Frazier, left hook that that, that Ali never saw come and bam. And next thing you know, you're counting the lights. I did not see this one coming at all. Did not see this coming at all.

Like, in fact, we were just hanging out with Barry in the lobby in New York, before we're going to play the Islanders. And, or maybe it was Jersey. Anyway, we're having a good chat with him and nothing. You know, he went walking around Manhattan had a great day and we're just, you know, chatting about all things hockey, how crazy the schedule was and all this. And then we come back from that road trip and, you know, got out on social media and obviously

the press conference and everybody was just jaws to the floor. It was something that was not spoken of. Nobody had any insight information. And apparently, you know, they've been talking about this for some time. so this has been, you know, kind of in the works, maybe how they want to handle it. And, you know, the predators are a team that, you know, and Barry, as you guys know, he's very open and transparent.

You know, he kind of wears his heart on his sleeve and you'll tell you anything. And, you know, I'm not surprised that they came out with it, but nobody, nobody saw this coming. So then the question becomes, what now? And maybe complicating everything is, you know, Nashville's playing a lot better than they did at the beginning of the season.

And now they're a few points out of a, out of a playoff spot. And they've won a couple of games in a row. So, and now here comes the Olympic break. What happens now for the Nashville Predators? Well, this is, it really, I was thinking about that too, as everybody was, because, you know, they're obviously back in the mix. I don't know if that's going to change plans at the trade deadline, but you think if you're going to get a new general manager,

this could be one of the biggest trade deadlines in the history of the franchise. Agreed. Depending on what they do. Because they've got, when you look at the players that will be of interest to a lot of teams, I don't know if there's been a season where there's more teams that'll be buying. I mean, you have teams just out in the West, young teams like Anaheim, San Jose, Utah, who have a lot of good young NHL talent prospects in their system, draft high draft picks, you know, that are going to be buyers too, I believe.

the deadline. And then you have everybody else who will be, you know, everyone's got to think they have a chance to win the Cup this season. And you have, you know, if you go down the list of the National Predators, Ryan O'Reilly, Stephen Stamcoast, who has completely, you know, reinvigorated his career. I mean, he's scoring at the same rate as Connor McDavid right now in the last, you know, 30-odd games. You know, you have Michael Bunting, who's having an unbelievable year. Eric Halle, who teams would love to add a sentiment that does the things that he does. You have Michael McCarron, who is a, you know, a valuable fourth-line centaurin who penalty kills at a low cap number.

You have all these guys, Nick Purbix, who's on a reasonable deal, right-hand shot, defensemen, have all of these players who I know Barry will be getting a lot of calls on, and it just, what direction they're going to go? I don't know because they've fought hard to put themselves back in the race. But do you let that impact, you know, what could be, you know, a one-time opportunity at a trade deadline? I don't know. The one thing too complicated things, I know like around, you know, when the Quinn Hughes situation was going on and everyone was wondering about the New Jersey Devils specifically and then we wondered about, you know, no trade clauses and teams and their salary cap getting sort of all pretzeled up.

The one thing that I wonder about, and this is not exclusive to Nashville. This is Dallas. This is Tampa. This is all the no state tax teams. when you're a player that has a no trade like take us inside the mind of a player here Mace you play obviously played in the NHL inside the mind of a hockey player here

if you're a player on the Nashville Predators who has a no trade clause who has a no move clause and you're asked to move it to go somewhere else in your mind are you thinking if I'm even going to consider waving this no trade

it can only be to another no-tax state. Otherwise, if I agree to waive my no move, I'm agreeing to take less money than I negotiated. That is a very tough question. Do they think that way? I think it's becoming more and more as a tool that general managers use that players think about signing contracts and taking a little bit off of the AAV

for their contracts to go to a no-state tax. So it's very individual. And I would say if, you know, if I'm a player that has a no move clause and, you know, you're considering waiving it, that would probably be one of the considerations a guy would have, or if you're going to a true contender. You know, you get guys that have played, you know, a lot of years like Stephen Stamco's, he's made a lot of money, he's done well, he wants to win, you know. So I think, you know, that would be one of the caveats in that decision as if, hey,

let's say it's, you know, Colorado or somebody like that at Dallas, Obviously, Dallas is a no state tax. But, you know, some of the other teams, and if they've got a good chance to win, I think that would be, you know, that would probably supersede the no state tax, especially for a guy who's, you know, made a good living in his career. But I definitely think it is part of the equation because it's such an advantage, I think, for those teams and players that play in the own markets. Yeah, you know, if Barry Trots here at trade deadline,

and I wonder about the veteran guys that have been there for a long time. So, like, I wonder about Philip Forbesburg. I wonder about Roman Yossi, wonder about UC Saros. Would Barry Trots, do you think go to them and say, like, look, we're going to, we're going to take a step backwards? Like, I've always maintained. Like, this is true. Like, I read a lot of military history. And the idea of taking a step backwards sometimes can be an offensive position.

It's a reload position before you advance. So I do understand that. But if you're Barry Trots and like, do you go to the veterans and say, look, this is going to be a few years here, while we try to put everything together again so we can move this forward. And by then, you know, Brady Martin will be here and Tanner Mollandike will be here and David Edstrom will be here, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. What do you want to do? Like, would he go to Romanozzi and have that conversation?

Would he go to Forsberg? Would he go to Soros and have those conversations? I think 100% that he would. I think one of the things about Barry is he's very inclusive to the place. players in a lot of the decision making and direction. Ultimately, you know, he's got the, he's the one making the decisions and I think everybody knows that. But in that situation, if you were going to, you know, move a bunch of these guys that we talked about, I think he would, you know, he would meet with those players and say, hey, look, this is what we're doing.

You know, I know it's not necessarily what we wanted to do two years ago, but this is where we are. If you want to stick through it and be part of this, obviously we'd love to have you, you know, retire as a Nashville predator and all. all these type of things. Or, you know, if you, if this isn't something that you want to do, we'll try to find you another situation, you know, that would make you happy. I almost positive Barry would have those conversations with those guys if they end up doing something like that.

I mean, he's treating, you know, he said, and you guys have probably heard, you know, Ryan O'Reilly has no trade protection, but he promised him, you know, he'd be in the decision-making process about it and kind of treating it like he did have some sort of trade protection. So he is very, I think it's important to him to have that communication with players and keep them in a loopware. As we know, a lot of people don't do that in this business and teach their own. But Barry is one of those guys that I think the communication with those guys would be a lot about all that kind of stuff of, you know, if they want to stay on board, if they want to stay here and if they don't, if they want to go in a different direction, he'd do everything in this power to, you know, make their position the way that they wanted it. A couple more questions here. Then I want to ask you about sort of very Trots' legacy in Nashville,

which is a deep and rich one, as we all know. Let me ask you this, Chris. There's a lot of players now that when they retire, settle in Nashville. Like, great place to live. It's awesome, family-friendly, like all of it. We've all heard about how great Nashville is. Ryan Getslap, George Peros.

those are two that come to mind right away. And I think those are two that we look at and say somewhere down the road, they will be, if they want it, managers in the NHL. Like they will have the big chair. Do you see those names popping up here as this search goes through with CAA? Ryan Getslaff and George Perros. Like personally, I wonder about Rob Blake, like Rob Blake coming in in a combination with Brendan Janahan.

Shanahan is president and Rob Blake as general manager. That one to me would make a lot of sense. But then I do wonder, and people are, hey, Ryan Gessloff lives in Nashville. George Perros lives in Nashville. Do you think that's a factor at all? I don't know. I don't think that would be a factor. I think, you know, the one thing they did by announcing this as early as they did is they can take their time with this.

And there's been a lot of names. And one of the things that actually surprised me in the press conference was, you know, they mentioned there's a possibility. It could be somebody that's outside of hockey, which I find hard to believe. But it just tells me that they're really going to take time. They're really going to interview. And if that were the case,

obviously rely on the support around them with, Scott Nichols done a great job. Jeff Kelty is a guy that's been gut and buzzed and maybe ready to take a step. Brian Poyle. They've got a good team that can kind of handle the hockey op stuff. But I think to me, and I don't know, and you know, somebody I would think that has experience. and that's kind of been there, done that, has the relationships.

You talk about these trade deadlines, that's a tall order, you know, for someone to, you know, come into an organization and completely do a rehaul or put their own stamp on it. So there is a lot of good young, you know, you're Langdonburner, Kevin Adams was a guy. There's so many names out there right now, like great qualified people. And I think they're going to, you know, there's going to be no stone unturned in this, in this search is the thing. And I like the fact that they've, you know, open it up so early because they won't be rushed, you know,

to do this and, you know, come June 30th and get into free agency. They're going to have a lot of time to make the right choice. You know, we had the conversation about Kevin Adams yesterday. I remember it was a day before on the program. I can't recall they all sort of run together. I'm glad you mentioned that name because does it not feel to you, Chris? Like every win the Buffalo Sabres get is another, another push for Kevin Adams next. job.

Like at the end of it, full compliment, like Guillermo Kekyllian is the guy on the stage taking the bows. We get it, but it's Kevin Adams team. And every win that they get, you're Kevin, normally, like, we all know how it works.

Normally, you get fired from a team, like, I want those guys to go into the ditch. If you're Kevin Adams, go make the playoffs, go win a couple of rounds because it's only good for Kevin Adams. You know what I mean?

I agree. And I think, you know, with Buffalo with this team and those players, I think everybody maybe expected it to happen a bit sooner. And I feel like now they kind of got like the right guys in there,

Zooker and all the, the right mix of the veterans and the younger players kind of coming of age and understanding how to win, how hard it is to win, the commitment to the way that you have to play. And then you listen to these guys now and they're, you know, they're speaking, it's not a fluke. This is a good hockey team. They've got

great goaltending, unbelievable, young defensemen. They've got a great balanced forward group. And as you mentioned, all, these are all Kevin Adams guys, you know, and it's just finally coming to fruition the way that I think maybe is a year or two later than everybody expected, but this is going to be a team that's, they're going to be, they're going to be a top team here for likely the next decade because of all the, you know, the players that Kevin Adams was able to bring into that, into that team. So he's a guy that I'm sure will be looked at as Shannon and all the

other guys, but it's going to be, it's a tough, tough choice, but Kevin Adams is a guy that should be, you know, definitely under consideration. So fascinating. Okay, last one. The legacy of Barry Trots in Nashville. You know, I think back, you know, I'm old enough to remember you this raw bone fire hydrant of a defenseman for the Regina Pats, tough as nails. Like that's like what I think of like Barry Trots, the player, I think of like that tough, rugged, smaller size. But like, give no quarter kind of defenseman playing for Regina in the Western League.

And then through a marvelous career coaching in the NHL, won a Stanley Cup, of course, with the Washington. and capitals. But focus on Nashville here. I'll let you go on this one. What's his legacy in Nashville? I think his legacy to me, and I was there right from the beginning, and I played in Milwaukee for four years

and obviously got my start with Nashville, and there may be no more important person to me in my career than Barry Trots and Mitch Korn, who was the goalie coach there. And, you know, that was a day and age, and I'm sure you remember this. It was a hard nose, tough. Oh, yeah.

Coaching was very, you know, borderline abuse of the way that people coach. And that was fine. That's just the way it was. But I remember, you know, interacting with Barry Trots and we're an expansion team in the National Hockey League. And he had this innate ability to connect with players on a human level and really, you know, caring about your family,

asking, you know, about these things that I'd never really been asked about by any coach before. And he got, I found that he was able to get so much out of his team with very little. I mean, you look at back in the days and you look at some rosters when they started making the playoffs. And it was because of Barry Trots. And the other thing that he was really, I thought was so impressive about him is he always gives the surrounding and supporting staff around him credit. His assistant coach, if our penalty kill was going well, he'd, you know, he'd be saying first, Brent Peterson did a great job on this adjustment and he's got the penalty kill going. And I just think to me his legacy will be obviously one of Stanley Cup and he's one of the most

winningest coaches in the history of the National Hockey League. But to me, his legacy will be Barry Trots the person. Anyone that's interviewed him has spent any time on or off camera or Mike, he gets everyone the time of the day. He's just an incredible, incredible, authentic human being. And I think to me, that's ultimately going to be his legacy. Aside from all the success that he's had on and off the ice, I think to me it'll be Barry Trots the person. You know, I remember Chris having a conversation with you about Peca Reneh

with Barry Trots. And the one point that you stressed, and normally, you know, head coach, it was a leave the goalie decisions to the goalie coach, etc. But you talked about how much Barry Trots' style made it easy for Peca Rennay to play because René liked to have a lot of shots warm up the puck, right? And then Trots gets fired and Peter Lavillette comes in. And all of a sudden it's shot suppression and where Pecker-Rene was used to like 15 shots in the first period to warm up.

Now he's getting six. And remember you mentioned to me like, this is going to be, this is a fight now for Peca Rene. I don't know if it was sort of deliberate to help the goaltender, but maybe close on what Barry Trots meant to goalie. in Nashville. Well, I think, you know, he's always, he started with, you know, a defense first mentality. And I think that was out of necessity back in the, you know, expansion days when you didn't have much offensive firepower that was your only

chance to win. But you look at, you know, that mentality and what he took, you know, into Washington. It was tough at first. And finally, I think he was able to connect with a player like Alexander Ovechkin. So you're a great player, one of the greatest of all time. But if you want to win a Stanley Cup, And if you want to have a legacy of being a champion, you have to buy in to this. And he was able to get, you know, him to change his game and understand that that is just

as important as scoring, you know, 900 and some odd goals or whatever it is. But if you want to win and be a winner that you have to play a certain way, and I think for goaltenders, you know, when you have a team in front of you, that's dedicated. And obviously a defensive hockey team doesn't mean you just have good defensemen. You have to have forwards that are committed to playing that way. And I think that, you know, same thing when he went to the island. You know, their goaltenders had incredible numbers. And it gave him a chance.

And they had two Eastern Conference, you know, championship final losses to Tampa. But it was his ability to get everybody on the team to buy in because I think a lot of coaches say the same thing. And whether you get to buy in or not, I think that's up to, you know, the coach to have the impact and the effect and the believability and the trust to be able to get those players to play that way. And he did. No matter where he was, he got the buy-in from all of his players. He sure did. Okay, we look forward to seeing what's next for the Preds.

Chris, thanks so much for joining me here today. I really appreciate it. Great insights, as always. Enjoy the, are you doing anything for the Olympic break? I'm going to mostly catch up with all the kids stuff. It's been a crazy schedule.

But I am going to Touloum for four days. So I'm going to Mexico for four days. Nice. Do all the yoga. Yeah. That's great. Breathing exercise. Yeah.

So I'm going to have a good, good little wellness four-day trip. I love it. Oh, man. Great breath work. Live to 200, bud. Live to 200. Just breathe, breathe, breathe.

Thanks for joining me here today. It's really good. I feel calm already, even thinking about it. There you go. Thanks, Chris. You'll be good. We'll talk soon. Thanks, Jeff.

Take care of right. There is. Great Chris Mason. Oh, wow, that's so cool. I'm like getting right into that now, like different kinds of breathwork, yoga breathwork. Oh, yeah.

One day when you get older, Zach, all these things will be important to you. All the basics of life about breathing, for example, and how you can heal yourself through breath and how you can sleep better through breathwork and all these types of things that us olds have to worry about that you youngs just take for granted. Anyway, thanks to Chris Mason for stopping by. Always good talking to Mason. Always good talking to him.

It's breathing is probably something I could work on, especially if you watch me watch Leafs games, not even if you just watch the Leafs games. Not even if you just watch the Leafs games with me. If you watch me watch them, I could probably work on my breathing for sure. That would be a good show. I'd like to have like a secondary screen on just to watch you watch a game. Like there's a difference though. My girlfriend found out between having me do a watch along where I know like I got a chat and we're entertaining.

We're talking to people and I have guests and everything versus me just watching a game. I usually don't really say anything unless things are going really poorly. it's mostly just fuck Are you kidding me What is that? Do you react to Do you react to goals?

In the playoffs Yeah Not really as much In the regular season I don't think More just like watching Pretty even keel Throughout the course of the game

But playoffs yeah I was going nuts Especially last year Yeah Yeah Well that was the one thing I'm going to just say is when you guys went to Florida, there was a piece of me that was like, if I go and I have to sit in this press box, or I don't want to say have to do.

If I get to sit in the press box, which would be an awesome opportunity, but you can't celebrate it. And like, I was thinking about that, and I'm like, I am going to have a tough time. I couldn't imagine how producer Vic managed his way through it, but I don't know. That would have been a hard one for me. One of my favorite lines ever. It was an Edmonton, Calgary series. I'm not going to say who the media person was, but this person got a whole lot of effus right away from the Edmonton Oilers media when he said this. I can't remember which game was, but Calgary went up like 3-0 over the Edmonton Oilers. And this one media member, long-time media member and very influential media member,

who's now a very, very close friend. Very loudly as he walked by the Oilers. section in one of the great lines that once you hear it you will never forget he said loudly wow the Calgary Flames sure took the Oilers media out of this one and

fear point about no cheering in the press box oh it was a different time no but like I know that it is it is very much frowned upon and I'm sure you've heard the cliche no cheering in the press box yeah yeah I mean I think I would be a professional

about it, but I still, like, I care and I'm a fan of the team, so I want these, I want them to win and happen, those things to happen. So, like, that Florida series, the more it went on, the more intense each goal got, and the more I gave a shit every time they scored or a goal was scored against. But for the most part, I think, especially during the regular season, I am just taking it as a bigger picture thing and just evaluating what I'm seeing. But playoffs, actually, you know what, last night, the one that, I did. Oh, here we go.

Celebrate. It wasn't a goal, though. It wasn't a goal. Oh, okay. It was Anthony Stolars. Again, apologies. People watching who were like, oh, I thought this is a clean cut show.

I'm about to swear. So just cover your young ones years. I exclaimed so loudly when he made that save. And it was more so admiring the save by Stollars on Drysettle backdoor. My girlfriend goes, what the hell are you doing? Because I stood up and went, what a fucking save? And she's like, what are you doing?

I'm like, I don't know. And I just sat back down in my living room. Like, never mind, just get on with it. Is she a hockey fan? Wasn't. Not that she disliked it, but she just had no idea. So now she is, she dumbed jumped into the deep end with me. You didn't.

You didn't make her leave. Yeah. You did, eh? Well, I think she's more like, yeah, I'm a Leafs fan, but it's more she cares about me and not so much the Leafs. Oh, yeah. She cares about her. But she watches every game.

She doesn't want to date a psychopath. So she's actually concerned about your health and the state of your brain. Yeah. For that matter. By the way, here's what I want. I'm going to give you some homework today as a Maple East fan. I want you because this was for my money. I don't know if you're like this.

I always wonder about like the best goal ever scored at a rink, the best fight ever at a rink, the best save ever. the best save ever at a rink. Now, in my mind, maybe it's because I think I was like 12 years old when it happened. But for me, the reggae save on Cavalini, Toronto, St. Louis at Maple Leaf Gardens is the best save I ever saw at Maple Leaf Gardens. Maybe the best goal is Pete Mahavlich in game two of the Summit series, the short-handed goal. The best fight to me is a toss-up between Orlin, Curtin Bach, and Terry Harper, which was actually two fights. because Harper got back up and wanted some more, then Curtinback knocked him down again

in a fight with John Ferguson tried to get a Bobby Bond or the Wendell Clarkwick-Tocket fight. But I want you to go, and it's available online, just type in Cavalini Regget Save Maple Leaf Gardens. And let me know if you've seen a better Maple Leafs save ever than that one. In the meantime, the sheet is powered by Fanduel.

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I see you hurrying it up. with every other show. Oh, man. Come on. You're so invested in this show. I am trying to make sure that you and I, outside of hockey, can share some common grounds and bond and get closer. And, you know, I was never a fan of the WWE when I was a kid, but I did always love

the Stone Cold Stunner. And I figured out that with how close we work now, the least I could do is entertain how geeky you get about the wrestling. in the history of things. So I decided to do some research about some wrestling moves. And I found out that Chris Masters, a.k.a. the masterpiece. He was the wrestler in WWE who popularized the full Nelson.

But Jeff, unfortunately, I don't know how much I can keep this up and do all this studying because it really wears me down. The Stone Cold Stunner. Morgan Geeky. The full Nelson. And it grabs me down. Mark Stone, Morgan Geeky, Brock Nelson, Zach Werenski.

That's really good. I wonder who came up with the full Nelson, probably like Frank Gotts or something, Carl Gotch, something like that. But anyway, so Mark Stone. The Full Nelson was actually in the 1800s. The move was invented. I couldn't figure out who named it.

Was it George Hackenshmet? There's like numerous people associated with the naming of it. Oh, okay. Okay, never mind, man. Yeah. Never mind. No, no, my. Mark Stone, Morgan Geeky, Brock Nelson, Zach Werensky.

Love the Stone Cold Center, but wanted to get geeky and learn more about the full Nelson, but studying really wears you down. Yeah, well, where? I was trying. No, no, no, no, no. It's good. And for putting up with that and you slap down five bucks, you go home $283.60. Yes.

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That's like the ancient map makers. Brian Brick and I, so Berkey, when he had his place in downtown, I remember the first time I went over there and looking at his walls. Bricky loves maps, right? He loves,

and he loves ancient maps as well. So like in his house, like all these frame maps. I'm sure in Wainfleet, he's got the same thing with like frame maps all over the place. And one of the things that I've always sort of marveled at,

and I can't remember whether actually Berkey has one of these maps. But if you look at old ancient maps before the world was all discovered and mapped out as correctly as it can be as we have now, when there were areas they didn't know where things were or what existed in those areas, ancient map makers would write on the maps. Do you know this? What they would write on the maps? There be dragons.

If you had an area, you didn't know where it was, there be dragons. Which I always thought would be an awesome name for a podcast. Thereby Dragons, which is just a name for a show that you don't know what's going to happen. There are some shows that we do like that, which is another There Be Dragons show. Because we had no idea. A lot of those shows are with Shinsky shows and maybe we'll do that again tomorrow. The There Be Dragons special. no idea what's going to happen on the show

or no idea what actually exists there. But I always found that cool that ancient map makers would write there to be dragons in an area of the world that they didn't know. Maybe that'll be the title of tomorrow show. There be dragons? Yeah. Maybe I should...

By the way, just... Yeah, I should mention that with Berkey. By the way, Berkey was supposed to be on today. Brick's going to be on Friday. Again, scheduling, scheduling, scheduling, scheduling. So Bricky's going to be on Friday with us. Me'll bring up there to be dragons. I just want to clarify.

I'm the full Nelson. So it is credited originally to Admiral Horatio Nelson. Nelson. And then it is popularized by Ruffy Silverstein, as well as modernized by Chris Masters and Bobby Lashley. Those are the ones that it is associated to here. Couldn't really narrow that one down. Wrestling historian on the business card now, eh?

I see Zach. Spreading your wings. Man of many hats No, no, that's impressive Including, Jack of all trades, Master of None Master of None. What is your hat, by the way?

What's Huaygo House? I don't know. What is it? I don't know. My girlfriend got it for me for Christmas, so, yeah. And you didn't bother to say, what's this?

What am I putting on my head? Nice hat, thank you. And then moved on with my day. Amazing hat, thank you. This is so thoughtful. This is an amazing gift. I'm going to wear it every day. I'll be wearing it.

on my shows for everybody to see how amazing this hat is that you got me. Thank you. You're awesome, babe. I love you, babe. I want to spend the rest of my life with you tonight. And show. Yeah, and show. Okay, there we go.

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