The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Day Before Free Agency ft. Hart Levine & Cam Robinson

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

On this episode of The Sheet, host Jeff Marek is joined by Hart Levine from PuckPedia to break down everything you need to know heading into NHL Free Agency, which opens tomorrow. From cap space proje...ctions to key players to watch, they cover all the major storylines as the market gets set to open. Then, Cam Robinson from Elite Prospects joins the show to recap the NHL Draft, which took place over the weekend. Cam shares his biggest surprises, standout picks, and thoughts on which teams came out on top after a wild few days at the draft#NHLFreeAgency #NHLDraft #TheSheet #JeffMarek #PuckPedia #EliteProspects #NHL #HockeyTalk #FreeAgency #NHLDraftRecap #NHLRumors #NHLNewsShout out to our sponsors!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Ninja Kitchen Canada: https://www.ninjakitchen.ca/products/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system-zidFN101CGY?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=olv&utm_campaign=25Q2-Crispi&utm_content=en👍🏼Budweiser: https://www.budweiser.ca/ca_enReach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of The Sheet is sponsored by the OCS Summer Pre-Roll Sale. Sometimes when you roll your own joint, things can turn out a little differently than what you expected. Maybe it's a little too loose, maybe it's a little too flimsy. There's a million ways to roll a joint wrong, but there's one roll that's always perfect. The Pre-Roll. Shop the Summer Pre-Roll and Infused Pre--roll sale today at OCS.CA and participating retailers. I wanna start. It's the day before free agency. All kinds of rumors, all kinds of talk. Players hitting, players signing. Players shopping for offer sheets.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I've been told there's two, at least two, that are looking for offer sheets right now. Where to go, what to get to today. We have a lot to get to today. A lot of it's gonna revolve around what we're gonna see tomorrow, and do not forget tomorrow is our free agent special at our daily face-off YouTube page that is right here where you're watching this show. Tyler Yeremchuk, Hart Levine, who's
Starting point is 00:01:13 going to be on the program today. He is the curator and genius behind Puckpedia. Carter Hutton, Matthew Barnaby, Johnny Lazarus, Colby Cohen, Stephen Ellis, Matt Larkin, cast of thousands on the program tomorrow. Hope you can join us starting at 11 a.m. Eastern and going right now it says we're gonna go to 2.30 but who's kidding here? We're just gonna like breeze through the afternoon. Until things stop, I would imagine. Anyhow, hope you can join us tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So we have rumors of tampering charges. We have Sam Bennett signing. We have the Anaheim Ducks trading John Gibson to the Detroit Red Wings. Then we see the Anaheim Ducks re-signing with Villi Husso. Hey by the way Zach, just as a quick note here. There were, I kind of had to laugh, there were 40 games, okay, with the St. Louis Blues where Villi Husso was a 919 goaltender. That was his save percentage, his average for those 40 games. Since
Starting point is 00:02:11 then, he's always been sub 900 in the three years he was with the Detroit Red Wings, maybe four. Had four games with the Anaheim Ducks last year, he was a 925. That's very small, of course, that's four games. But he's always been a sub 900% goaltender. $21 million. It's awesome. There's the game of hockey. There's the game of hockey and then there's the real game of hockey. Villegasso is winning the real game of hockey.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And there's going to be a lot of players that win the real game of hockey tomorrow and that is set yourself up get yourself paid secure the bag what are the kids say these days secure the bag was the last one that I secure there is there something a little more hip a little more modern a little more current that I should be aware of Zach Phillips I think it's still secure the bag I think that's the most current one that's going. But also like I'm getting older now, so maybe I'm behind the curve. Like I'm gonna find out, I'm gonna have my little cousins tell me like,
Starting point is 00:03:13 no, you're missing this. But secure the bag, that's the one that I know. All right, so what else do we have here today? We're waiting on a lot of players here, certainly. And we'll find out a lot tomorrow, although the NHL at the beginning of this year really sent out a strongly worded and stern memo reminding teams of the consequences of tampering. What? Gambling here at Casablanca? Yes, we all know that it happens, but I think the NHL is kind of like, yeah we know it happens, but if we catch you the punishment is going to be swift
Starting point is 00:03:53 and severe. But nonetheless, we wonder about Nick Ehlers of the Winnipeg Jets, and I wonder if there's a sign and trade on offer for Nick Ehlers of the Winnipeg Jets We shall see where that goes. We wonder about Brad Marchand. We wonder about Aaron Ekblad. We wonder about Vladislav Gavrikov We wonder about John Klingberg, Nate Schmidt, Ivan Provera We wonder about Pat Kane, Michael Grandlin, Jonathan Troy, Andrei Kuzmenko and Corey Perry. Perry's an interesting name Corey Perry's an interesting name I Perry's an interesting name. Corey Perry's an interesting name. I wonder if Corey Perry was thinking that there was a market out there maybe for something in the neighborhood of $3 million.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And there might be, we'll see what happens tomorrow. But if Edmonton can't bring him back, and Edmonton's right up against it, and Edmonton still has business to do as well, if Edmonton can't bring him back, and Edmonton's right up against it, and Edmonton still has business to do as well. If Edmonton can't bring him back, and I'm still, and maybe naively, I'm still of the belief that that's where Corey Perry wants to go and Corey Perry wants to return to the Oilers.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I just don't know whether they can meet a price for them. And it's the Oilers, and they're so so close and they're right there but they have like scraps for cap space and they have business to do to try to bring in a new netminder. By the way I have not been told that their goaltending coach Dustin Schwartz has been extended or not so I don't know whether that is going to be one of the moves we hear announced but everybody's pretty quiet around around that issue right now. We'll see what happens in the next 24 hours. But if Corey Perry does go to market, a couple of teams that I wonder about, and I threw this out on Twitter X today, now that Glenn Gullison
Starting point is 00:05:37 is in Texas with the Dallas Stars, I wonder about a return there. I also wonder about him going to the Los Angeles Kings. Let's not forget that it was Ken Holland originally who brought Corey Perry to Edmonton in the first place. I do imagine he would stay in the Western Conference. Although him going to the Florida Panthers sure would be juicy. But we'll see. It's one of the more intriguing names. Like these are all the things that are going to get batted around and discussed and chewed and debated tomorrow 11 o'clock Eastern on our daily face off free agent special
Starting point is 00:06:15 hosted by Tyler Ermchuk tomorrow. Who are you most curious about and why is it Mitch Barner? Bob. I mean watching this unfold over the weekend of like there's a trade on the table there's something being developed here and then all of a sudden it was like someone that you know put out on their podcast that talking about the tampering stuff that was going on and And then it was like, whoa. All of a sudden it was quiet over in that front everything that was going on.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It was like, oh, what happened there? I don't know. I do think it would be interesting because we all know that everybody's. Okay, well, let me rephrase this. We all believe that everybody is speaking to each other already. I find it, I just find it hard to believe. It's always just so interesting that like at 1201 there's like
Starting point is 00:07:14 eight million dollar deals being announced. Well, I used to always laugh. Remember when the Charra deal was done, like one of the most sophisticated contracts of the day, really sophisticated, big money, big ticket deal with the Boston 1201 1201 that like but there's there's plenty more like long gone of the days where at 1201 Eastern there are three players on a stage already there with their new jerseys and their new contracts the NHL knows how much of a bad look that is now another thing we should point out too oh you know what or you know what, let's get into what's happening on the program today, because I wanna mention
Starting point is 00:07:47 one more thing. Wanna mention one more thing about that discussion week the NHL used to have, and how teams used to quote unquote use slash abuse it. Anyway, welcome to the program today on the all new daily face-off. Glad to have you aboard. Daily Outline is powered by FanDuel.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Make every moment more with North America's number one sports book, Our Friends at FanDuel. I very much look forward to the end of the program where Zach comes up with something creative that he's found on FanDuel as there are no games to discuss. Um, mention Hart Levine coming up. He is the the founder and the brains behind and the network that never sleeps behind Puckpedia. He'll be joining us tomorrow at 11 a.m. Eastern for our daily face-off free agent special and he'll be joining us here in about two or three minutes on the sheet. Cam Robinson of Elite Prospects will stop by. We'll talk about the draft. I don't want to spend too much time treating the
Starting point is 00:08:41 whole event like a pinata because NHL was handed a tough bill of goods by some owners and a majority of general managers who wanted it that way. We should spend a little bit of time talking about that and we'll discuss the teams who did well and the prospects who now find themselves with brand new squads. We'll talk about free agency, we'll talk about the draft recap with Cam Robertson and we'll talk about trades, trades, trades and we are expecting and it might happen at any moment here Zach. It might happen any moment here between the Vegas Golden Knights and the Toronto Maple Leafs over
Starting point is 00:09:15 Mitch Marner. Do I have time to talk about the discussion week? I got Hart set up here. Okay give me two seconds here. Hart standby gonna be with in a couple of seconds here. Heart Levine from Puckpedia, the co-founder of the Brain Child. So here's how it worked. And I like this idea to sort of get around the idea of the T word tampering. Soft tampering or real hard tampering? Hard tampering, gentle tampering, passive tampering,
Starting point is 00:09:46 lowercase T, tampering, however you want to phrase it. They had that week we allowed to talk to the impending free agents. And what we found was teams were using it just to gather information. And listen, if I were a manager, I would have done the same thing. I would have talked to every single free agent and just talked about, so what's this guy
Starting point is 00:10:07 like? What do you know about that guy? What's this team like? What kind of systems does this play? What's this guy like on and off the ice? I would have done the exact same thing. I just would have used it as an information gathering exercise and that's kind of what this thing turned into.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Nonetheless, teams have been reminded, tampering bad. Puckpedia, good. You want to talk about a great resource that we all use and listen, Puckpedia is near and dear to my heart. That's something that is, that's a tab that is always open. Like I'm not sure about you, like that is one that we all have open 24-7 and someone that keeps that thing powered and fueled and updated is Heart Levine. The genius, the brains behind Pacpedia. Heart joins me now. How's that for an introduction? Did I hit all the bullet points here? The creator, the nerve center, the nucleus, the driver.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I need some color correction. I'm turning to red. I'm turning to red. You gotta touch, fix the color. Wow. Thank you so much. Don't worry. We'll start to knock. You gotta touch, fix the color. Wow. Thank you so much. Don't worry. We'll start to knock you down to peg. Bring you back down now. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:10 This guy doesn't know a wrist shot from a wristwatch. I don't know what he's doing on this program. He's got a fancy logo. Listen, thanks so much for stopping by. Very much looking forward to working with you tomorrow. As we all say here, we've and everybody in the industry has admired your work for a long time. You have a lot to be proud of with Pacpedia.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You know, I started the show off by saying, you know, we're looking at free agents, we're looking at trades, we're looking at offer sheets, we're looking at sign and trades, like all kinds of things that you keep track of on Pacpedia. As we head into the official day of negotiations with free agents, clear throat again for effect.
Starting point is 00:11:48 What are you most curious about? Hart, you've done this plenty of times now. That's a good question. Again, thank you so much for the kind words. I'm really curious to see if the deals will maybe trickle out a little later than when the bell opens on July 1st last year.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I think what prompted the memo was, it was just like boom, boom, boom. There were a lot of deals known that were out within the first couple of minutes. I wonder if people are a little more careful and it comes out a little slower. That'll be one thing. Another thing that I'm really interested in, maybe not around tampering, but guys looking at extensions, we usually see a bunch of extensions on July 1st. This year though is really interesting. So players that have one year left on their contract, this, they have the, it's a really unique time. They can sign for eight years with their team, or if they
Starting point is 00:12:39 wait till next summer and go to market, they're only signing for six years with the new team. So it's the first time, it's really like a two-year difference for those players that have a year left on their contract. So that's really something I'm interested in seeing. Like are we gonna see a bunch of those eight year deals which we would often see? Or maybe there'll be less of them, more of them? That's something for me to watch. It's an interesting wrinkle and coming off the draft, like listen a lot of us had questions about all the information that's trickled out about what's gonna to be in the in the new CBA
Starting point is 00:13:06 and just as a quick detour here, I knew we were gonna get here in this conversation so let's have it now. It seems as if and you know outside a dress code I'm trying to find a place where the players actually won something in this. You know one veteran of the CBA wars said to me this weekend as he sort of perused all the information that is contained, and still more info was trickling out, he said, this is a CBA done by chat GPT. He's like, I don't see anything in here, and I certainly don't see anything here from the NHL Players Association. And one of the things too is like everything is, it seems that the system now, Hart, is becoming more and more restrictive,
Starting point is 00:13:50 is ruling more and more on the owner's side of things. Like I don't know where all this is headed, and this is gonna be a four year extension, which will take us of five year labor and ownership piece here. But just as a quick aside, when you looked at some of the details, does it seem to you as if, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:08 you're taking a breath and the Python is squeezing that much more every time you exhale on this thing? Yeah, I agree with that sentiment. And that's definitely agents are feeling the same thing. The most common thing I heard is, what did we get out of this? They did get some wins. They got some of the,
Starting point is 00:14:25 the like employer taxes that anyone has a paycheck employers pay. And in the way that the CBA is working now, those actually came out of the players share. So that's now not going to be in the players share, but when you add up the math, it's like less than 0.1% of the revenue pie. So you could say maybe they were really at 49.9% before and now they're at 50.0.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So it's something, it's small. And then the playoff bonus pool, it seems like a big number, several million more, but when you break it down like by a guy, a guy that wins the cup is maybe getting an extra $100,000, which, hey, I'll take that, but when you're making millions, that's probably not a life changer.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And then to your point, there's a lot of things that I think that the owners or league won in terms of that was on their wish list. The term limits at one point was a hill to dial in for Bill Daly, right? So they got that reduced. And then you get some in the bucket of who the hell even wanted that which was like to me that the stopping the double retention I can't find one person that knows who wanted that why did anybody want that like what what is the benefit of having less trade deadline action it spurs movement it spurs excitement in the league if there's a lot of people that follow
Starting point is 00:15:41 sports that don't even watch the games they just like the transaction aspect of it right and so why are we gonna reduce that the LTR piece also is going to There's a lot of people that follow sports that don't even watch the games. They just like the transaction aspect of it, right? And so why are we going to reduce that? The LTAR piece also is going to reduce some deadline transactions. I understand why we needed something there. We could talk about like, was this the best way? But getting rid of the double retention at the same time, it's really hard to understand what the benefit of that is.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I've never heard anyone complain about it on either side. It's something that I've never heard anyone grouse about. The rare lose-lose in a negotiation piece. I mean everyone seems fine with it. Teams seem fine with it. Players have no problem with it. That one is... Now one thing I want before we... and I don't know if we can revisit CBA talk. I tend to hear people sort of glaze over when you get too deep in the CBA. Take it to the beach, folks. When it gets published, take the CBA to the beach. You really want to be a party of one? Take the collective bargaining agreement to
Starting point is 00:16:36 the beach and enjoy yourself. Bob McKenzie, who when he does come back, drops bombs, see hurdle deal, Vegas golden nights. Uh, Bob McKenzie reporting all signs point to Aaron Echblad and Florida making progress on a longterm deal that assuming it's finalized would take the veteran defenseman out of free agency. Now, um, that's what, that's a whopper. You know, Bill Zito has said there is a way for us to
Starting point is 00:17:09 resign the big three. They did ban it eight times eight according to Bob McKenzie looks like Aaron Ekblad and the Panthers are making progress here. We wonder about Brad Marchand of course course, through all of it. But I can see a lot of teams that if Aaron Echblad is off the market, I can see Utah saying, damn. I could see the Los Angeles Kings saying, damn. I could see the little Columbus Blue Jackets who are trying to find someone desperately finding a right-hand shot to play with Danton Matejchuk saying, damn. I could also see Vladislav Gavrkoff saying, ooh, this is juicy now for me. I was like a Matt Grizzly. Matt Grizzly, 40 points, highest scoring defenseman out there.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah, yeah. It's a thin market for D. You take one off and all of a sudden, oh, a lot of other players become juicy. What do you make of the Bob McKenzie report with Aaron Echblad if he indeed is going off market? That's interesting. It was already a thin D market, like I mentioned. I mean, Matt Grislick, probably the most offensive player out there, and then, you know, I wonder if an Orlov or Provrov, I don't an Orlov or Proverov, I don't think the doors are closed on either of those players resigning with their teams.
Starting point is 00:18:28 So that could also reduce the market. Brent Burns at a ripe age of 40, I think he's definitely getting a contract and he's looking more and more attractive to teams, right? And how about even a guy like a Nick Perbyx, coming from the Lightning, certainly wasn't on anybody's like top target list, but he's like, really, I'm looking, he's one of the only guys under 30 for scoring defenseman, like
Starting point is 00:18:50 him and Ryan Lindgren, but he's got a little bit, um, you know, maybe a touch more offense. Um, yeah. So that, that'll be interesting to see on the D market, um, how the dominoes fall. The first thing I thought of when you mentioned that is what does that mean for Marchand? Like, are they going to be able to get all three or it always seemed like that would be tough and one one person is going to be squeezed out. We all assumed it was Eklad so now Marshann,
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Starting point is 00:20:39 That's an interesting one here. Again, this is going to test everything that Bill Zito has. I'll be really curious to see where the decimal point is on the Aernach Platte if they can get it done. You know, interesting note, you mentioned Ivan Provov. I think that he wants to go back to Columbus. I really do. I think that he likes it there. I mentioned earlier they're looking for someone to play with, Danton Matejchuk.
Starting point is 00:21:00 It seems as if one of the issues with the Blue Jackets is, you know, what do they do with that Damon Severson contract, which right now is really holding up a lot of things that that Don Waddell wants to do with that back end. Would that be fair? That be 30? Yeah, I think they I mean, when they went for Severson, remember, that was a sign in trade as well. They wanted to add to their D, you um, they added Proverall, but it
Starting point is 00:21:25 didn't, it doesn't seem like it quite worked out. So yeah, they want to add to it. And at some point you might have to subtract. I mean, the one thing is they, like I'm looking right now, they have 28 and a half million of cap space, plenty of room. And so, you know, I guess it doesn't hurt to bump a guy like a Christiansen down, you know, out of your depth chart, but yeah, I think that they're players.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They definitely seem to recognize that you build from the D out, and they'd locked out Fabro too, which I think he would have had quite a bit of interest on the market. So definitely a team to watch at D. So I threw out there the Corey Perry this afternoon on TwitterX, and you know,
Starting point is 00:22:02 a couple of things that I wonder about here. One, as much as he might wanna go go back and as much as Edmonton might want him to go back I'm not sure that they have bluntly I don't think that not sure they have the money to bring them back they're right up against the salary cap and they have business to do with their their net mining situation as I said too I still don't have any clarity if Dustin Schwartz is coming back as the as a goalie coach of the Edmonton Oilers. That may be one piece of the goalie puzzle with the Edmonton Oilers. But nonetheless, back to Corey Perry. You know
Starting point is 00:22:33 with Glenn Gullitzen in Dallas, Edmonton coach, one of his Edmonton coaches, and with Ken Holland in Los Angeles who brought Corey Perry to LA in the first place. I wonder if Corey Perry does make it to to market tomorrow. Those would be a couple of potential landing spots. I mean how much how much how much brainpower have you used on Corey Perry in the last 24 hours, Hart? I've used some yeah. I think what's interesting like a guy like Corey Perry. I mean you if you take his age away I mean the guy had a really age away, I mean, the guy had a really good playoffs, and he had 19 goals, 30 points in the regular season. And then he's probably looking at
Starting point is 00:23:10 contracts, you know, for like, Jamie Ben, even like a Claude Giroud, and thinking, hey, like, why do I need to sign for just a million bucks with like, last year, he was I think, 1.15 and 250,000 of bonuses, like, why do I have to settle for that? The other the flip side of that is he is 40, he's a hundred million plus career earnings. And so should you be picking the place where you're gonna enjoy the hockey the most,
Starting point is 00:23:34 have the best chance to win and really like, when you made a hundred million, it doesn't matter if you get paid one million, two million, three million, four million this year. It's, you know, it's easy for us to tell Corey Perry what to add to his bank account this season. So I see from a market standpoint, he can get more from other places.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Like you mentioned Dallas, I think there's some other Western teams that would be quite interested in him. So that'll be the trick. And I think for the Oilers, yeah, it's trying to bring the band back together at discounts and knowing that there's a robust market. I think Connor Brown, there's some long offers waiting for him on July 1st, probably
Starting point is 00:24:09 more term and more dollars than he could get from Edmonton. So, you know, like that's another one. He seems like a great fit in the locker room. If you follow a little bit on the social, you see, he seems at all the weddings and parties with the, with the teams and very well liked, um, you know, he, he was overpaid two years ago, probably underpaid this last year. And so yeah, where does he wanna be? Does he wanna get some security in? So that'll be another one to see,
Starting point is 00:24:32 does he go to the market? And then that also, if he leaves, Corey Perry leaves, maybe that does open up Edmonton to bringing someone else. You know, I don't know if we're talking big name player, but potentially, you know, more guys in that couple million dollar range. Okay, so we'll follow the wedding theme. So Proverov was at Patrick Lainey's wedding last week so that means Proverov is going to Montreal then.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Is that my reading this right clearly? But then Zach Wierenski's wedding is coming up so maybe that means he's staying with Columbus. I'm so confused about this one, I don't know how to read the wedding tea leaves that we're players are going to sign. That's a whole beat, we read the wedding tea leaves. That's a whole beat. We need a wedding tea leaves beat. Wedding insider.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Hockey wedding insider. Who's at whose wedding and where does that mean they're going? So listen, last summer it was Broberg and Holloway and the St. Louis Blues making the big splash with the two offer sheets. You know, again, I wondered off the top of the show. It sounds like there's at least a couple of players that are in the offer sheet market right now. I'm not exactly sure who they are,
Starting point is 00:25:32 but I'm told there's a couple, which shouldn't surprise anybody. Do you think it's gonna be a frisky offer sheet market this year, maybe more so than subsequent years where the salary cap is really going to go up and teams, you know, are gonna be comfortable saying, go ahead, offer sheet my guy. I got the cap space to do, to match.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I think we're now going forward, we're in at least a state where agents can use it as a credible threat and use that to drive the price up. I mean, I think before, you know, teams, agents would threaten them and teams would kind of laugh like, sure. Like there's also a chance that a meteor is gonna hit the building today, right? Like it just didn't really happen.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And now it's far more credible. I think we're seeing it, you know, some of the RFAs that have already signed, you see that there's a little bit more pressure on them to do it. I think, you know, actually teams will be happy when some guys file for arbitration, which takes them off the board for offer sheets.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Maybe we even see some team elected arbitration again to take them off the board for offer sheets. So there's definitely a threat of it. Will we see some of them happen? You know, it's tough. I would, my over under, I'd say there's probably going to be one just because, you know, it's there's a good chance we'll see at least one. But I had quite a few guys on my potential list that are off the board, like a Maverick Borkard,
Starting point is 00:26:47 that would be a nice sneaky one. I think like a Jack Quinn maybe. And obviously we'd heard the Paterka rumblings. And again, you don't know, did they leverage that threat to get a deal? Even with NICE, it didn't seem like he wanted to leave, but did he leverage that threat and pressure, deadlines and pressure spurs on deals, does that drive
Starting point is 00:27:06 to a deal? I think like with Edmonton, there was probably some complacency last year thinking, hey, there's no rush. We have to training camp. Let's squeeze these guys and get them down as close to a million or a million and a half as possible. It didn't really occur to them that, hey, there's an offer sheet threat. And so now I just think teams won't have that, um, that mentality and, and, and something
Starting point is 00:27:25 to think about. And then you look at like in New Jersey, Luke Hughes, who's not offer sheet eligible because, um, he's what's called in the cap role, the 10 two C he didn't play enough, but doesn't have enough experience to actually be an official RFA. He doesn't, um, he's not eligible for an offer sheet. And maybe that contract, just when we look at it at the end of the off season, does the Luke Hughes contract seem a little more Team friendly than like maybe a Matthew Nyes contract just knowing that there's that extra pressure or not having that pressure
Starting point is 00:27:52 Eight times six point one for Ekblat according to Elliot Haircut a haircut to stay in Florida because he was where six seven point five before right? Yeah, he was seven? 7.5 before right? Yeah. He was 7.5, 7.6 with the Florida Panthers? He was at 7.5, yep. 7.5. He was 8 times 7.5 before. So he takes a haircut.
Starting point is 00:28:15 So at 29 taking a haircut, yep. What do you think the market would have been for him? Again, I keep looking at Utah but... We looked at some of the D available like I think if you can put a guy in your top four maybe you could squint and see him as a top parent guy. I mean that's to me 70 million all day. You think he's got more upside maybe you get closer to nine like we're gonna see a big number I think on Gabbercov for for example, you know, I think, uh, Provarov is not going to sign for, for too little.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So I think if he went to market, you're looking, you know, in the sevens, probably. Um, something to keep in mind though, we, how would it affect them? The market is he did have that PD suspension right at the end of the season. And the team teams discount for an injury, do they discount for, uh, coming off a PD suspension? So I guess we won't see or we won't find that out now. And Florida obviously had more inside knowledge into that situation than any other team would. So, but I think, yeah, the, the, that sound you hear are the agents for
Starting point is 00:29:14 the other UFA defensemen going cha-ching, cha-ching now that there's another guy off the board. Wow. I'll tell you, Gavrikov looking better and better here. Now it's always, you know, Brian Burke would always tell me, you know, there's two times where managers always overpay. You know, I'll say, oh, we're idiots. There's two times of the year we always overpay for defensemen. One, trade deadline. And then we really shoot ourselves in the foot with defensemen on July 1st. Boy, we spent, this is my bad Brian Burke impression here. He always talks about how they always spend too much money on July 1st on defensemen and I'm guessing considering how everybody needs it, no one's got it
Starting point is 00:29:55 seemingly, we're gonna see a lot of overpays here for D starting tomorrow. I think it's like supply and demand. I think the other place we're gonna see what feels like overpays is on the goalie market. Like you look at the UFA goalies, only two out of 900 say percent is Jake Allen and Anton Forsberg. I think we're going to see guys that we're not quite sure if they're like number two, maybe number three goalies getting a couple million plus.
Starting point is 00:30:18 There's just so few goalies available. So that's the other area where yeah, there's some scarcity and prices drive up just like you know just like the Toronto housing market right like it's all supply and demand. Nice to slide that one in there. Okay so of the names that are available and we'll see what happens with with Aaron Echblad. Looks like he's staying with the Florida Panthers so maybe they didn't need Seth Jones Aaron Echblad insurance after all. This wasn't like Justin Falk with Alex Patrangelo insurance, which St. Louis ended up needing after all. How do you see the Mitch Marner situation right now? And there's the sidebar, of course, of tampering. I had a governor text me over the weekend saying, don't expect this one to go away
Starting point is 00:31:00 anytime soon. What do you think? Well, I mean, I'd been hearing just like you, that Vegas seemed like the front runner for the last week or two. And there was still like a lot of talk that Dallas was sort of on Varner's list and there was some interest on that side as well. So I kept hearing those are the teams, those California teams, I think really want to get in the mix, just never really seemed like there was a lot of buzz or traction, you know, as a, as a mutual fit or that they were going to really be in the running. So but it also been hearing he won a short term. So when you hear a sign in trade, obviously the reason to do a sign in trade other than
Starting point is 00:31:37 to jump the market is to potentially get the eight years from Toronto. So maybe he's had a change of thought there and wants a long-term deal. But it's interesting to see that whenever there's a big person on the market, we always put Vegas down just automatically and they're back at the plate swinging away again, right? Obviously, Patrangelo, 8.8 probably on LTR Island for the rest of his career. Um, you know, that always seems to work out like, again, these teams that always seem tight, how are they going to make it work? Um, it, it always works out. And I think now we're also seeing there's so much cap space in the market.
Starting point is 00:32:13 There's so many teams that want to get better that that contracts that you used to have to pay a premium to move, I think are much, uh, easily, much easier to move out now. I think we'll see a lot of that. I think we'll even see like a Kerry Price contract potentially move before training camp. He's got a September 1st bonus and then he's only at a $2 million salary after that. I mean, there's teams that need to get to the floor or at least need to have a more respectable looking cap number.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And if either they just do it for that or they get a small asset from Montreal, yeah, I think contracts are a lot more movable now. Kerry Price, you were San Jose shark. Congratulations. I think so. Chicago, San Jose, I'd put those on the list for sure. How do you see them? I mean, listen, they're not major players and they're still going to be, they're still going to be bad teams for a while here. We all know about the prospects, but it takes a while for these guys to all of course and we just went through the draft and there's more. But how do you see teams like San Jose and the Chicago Blackhawks fitting into what we're going to see in the next few days? Just by way of you know what
Starting point is 00:33:16 we'll take your bad contract sure but you got to send us some our way. Yeah I think they're going to be active I I mean, they have money they have to spend. I mean, like San Jose is only at 44 million cap it right now. Right. So that they got a lot of money to spend just to get to the floor. And so do they want to do it? You know, the model like we saw with Chicago was overpaying on one and two year deals for veteran guys to add some money. San Jose didn't really go that route.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I mean, they signed to Foley to a decent deal, but it was four years. I think what these teams will have to be cognizant is at some point they do want to be good and make a step. And if you have these long term commitments that makes it difficult. I mean, the obvious example people point to is Toronto when they signed Tavares. And at the time, it seemed like they had plenty of room. And then it obviously, you know, complicated things as as their star players came off their entry level deals and needed to get paid real money. So I think like San Jose in particular, they've got, you know, it's celebrating is going to get a huge deal. You need to watch for that. Chicago, it seems like, you know, maybe that Bidart contracts not going to be quite as big as initially thought,
Starting point is 00:34:18 but they also have probably more, more volume of guys that seem like they have potential to really hit. So these teams have to be careful. Like they, they need to spend to get to the floor. They need to spend to put a competitive team, but you know, they don't necessarily want to hamstring themselves going forward. Um, especially if they, it's a good problem to have, but if they have three, four guys that are going to be, you know, in the 10 plus million dollar range in a
Starting point is 00:34:39 couple of years, you got to start factoring that in already. You know, I was having a conversation with someone at the combine who said like look I don't think that Bedard's going to do his deal right now, probably do the extension sometimes during the season but he said like look I expect it to be a 10 million dollar AAV. They're building this whole thing around him. Do you agree with that Hart? I think so. I mean if he's not going to get that like why sign long-term, I mean, from his perspective, I certainly think play out your contract and see if you coming off a better season. And yeah, I mean, I think also we have, we're going to have to get used to like $10 million isn't what it used to be. Right. You know, like looking to a Dobson,
Starting point is 00:35:20 there's a lot of sticker shock, nine and a half million. But just a few years ago, like, I don't know how they make ends meet at $10 million. How can you make ends meet? Just a few years ago, like 9.5 million was like 7.5 million, right? So like, you know, 15 million in a couple of years will be the new 10 million, you know? So it's just the way that the cap is increasing.
Starting point is 00:35:37 We've been in a state where basically five years it's flat. You get used to everything kind of feeling equivalent and you don't have to factor that in. And it's gonna really change. So if you can get Badaar for like, you know Ten million to me that's not an eight-year number for him. That's probably a little bit shorter Um, I yeah, I think you rush and you sign that right away before he changes his mind. This has been great Very much looking forward to working with you tomorrow Harlevin the the curator the brain trust the nucleus the, all of it's of the great Puckpedia.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Thanks pal, look forward to talking to you tomorrow morning. You're getting up early for it. Thanks so much. Very early, yeah, looking forward to it, thanks. You have the coffee on for Heart Levine from Puckpedia. I hope you enjoyed that, I'll be very much looking forward to working with Heart tomorrow.
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Starting point is 00:36:49 on hockey when it's hockey time. It's go time. Please welcome to the program someone I've wanted on for a while to recap what we just saw. The good, the bad, the ugly, the tacky at times, the cringy at times, Los Angeles. Oh boy, hey Cam Robinson from Elite Prospects. How you doing today? I'm doing well, pal. How you doing? I'm doing good. I really don't like to just treat something like a pinata, especially after everybody's had a whack at it.
Starting point is 00:37:18 The candies are gone, the parents have come home to pick up the kids, the poppin' chips are all done, and I don't want to just keep beating on what we saw on Friday. But it's not as if the commissioner didn't warn them all. This is clearly something that Gary Bettman and the NHL was not in favor of, and they tried. I feel bad for Steve Merrick, because I think he really gave it a shot to try to make it entertaining. But given the limitations, it was going, it was something that was probably
Starting point is 00:37:48 doomed, Cam, from the outset. Agree or disagree? I agree and like you said is that you got to feel for Steve Merrick because you know from his side of things, he sets up all the NHL events for people who don't know, is that it was well set up especially for the media. So for my work, maybe one of the best setups, you know, we had. The internet worked. We had great sight lines.
Starting point is 00:38:09 We had to walk half a step to get to the players for their interviews afterwards. All that was really smooth. That was, that was really great. Um, but they were up against it without all the teams being there. You know, normally the draft takes over an entire city. You know, the whole hockey community, it descends upon Nashville or Montreal or Las Vegas. And even, you know, in a place like Las Vegas, you know, it maybe doesn't take over the entire city,
Starting point is 00:38:33 but much of it. This one, you know, the NHL kind of took over LA live, this little concrete jungle in downtown LA, right around crypto.com. And outside of that, nobody really knew. And you didn't have the opportunities to meet and mingle. And I know that the team, some of them really enjoyed having that quiet space to make their decisions in during the time.
Starting point is 00:38:50 But I know that they felt the loss of that social aspect as well. And not just the Scouts going out for pops afterwards, but actually like the GMs and everyone working together and being able to facilitate things. And what are you hearing? This is what I'm hearing. This is what I have going on. So that was all lost. And then, of of course the awkwardness the technical difficulties I think like you said you know Gary has not been shy at saying this was not a league decision this was we told you we warned you and
Starting point is 00:39:15 you know he might not have been overly disappointed with how difficult it was so that he could be like and did I I tell you so? His line that I will take away from the weekend was we're here to serve. This is what they wanted. We're here to serve. Um, this was, um, this was a, a home run for the New York Islanders and, and not just with Matthew Schaefer, but let's start there. It's great a player as he is. And I remember you and I talking about this in like November, uh, maybe even before cam.
Starting point is 00:39:48 August. Was it August? Yeah. Uh, so like the, the, the, the, like head and shoulders above everybody else in this draft. And that's only part of it. The Islanders are getting someone that they're going to be really proud to wear their sweater for
Starting point is 00:40:03 as long as he's going to play in the NHL. Like they got a great player. They got an even better person. Not a dry eye, not a dry eye anywhere. You know, not a not a cold heart anywhere when he kissed the breast cancer ribbon on the Islanders jersey. And by the way, kudos to the Islanders for doing that in the first place. It was a sublime moment for a sublime player. Your thoughts, Cam Robinson.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, that was and I put this out there right afterwards and not something that I've really spoken about publicly at all. But I lost my mom this year. And that moment and I know I, you know, I talked to Matthew about it through the year a little bit we talked about it. But that moment like I was choked up, you know, I had to hold back some emotion myself during that. And I think that a lot of people felt that way because it was such a raw and human moment, right? Where you get to see, and these are, these are still just 17, 18 year old kids trying to reach their dream, something that they have committed
Starting point is 00:40:58 their entire worlds to up to this point. And so that, that just flow of emotion coming out of him and it just, it just shows again, he's, he's a spectacular human being and there's always brightness coming from him. And there's positivity emanating from him, despite the things that he's had to go through. And I think you're absolutely right that the Islanders have a supremely gifted hockey player, but an even better human being and someone that's going to represent their franchise extremely well. Someone who I could envision wearing the Captain C, you know, for years and years there too. And so that was, that was definitely the pinnacle of the entire weekend, which would have, I think even been amplified further if it was centralized and it was the traditional way. But you know, they also,
Starting point is 00:41:38 they also did very, very well with the rest of their picks too. And I think a lot of that they were fortunate. They didn't expect it. And Matthew Darge said that we did not expect to have Kaishan H and Victor Eklund sitting there at 16 and 17. And when they looked to move those picks to get up to get James Haggins, they didn't think that that type of player would be available for them.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And so to get those two players as well in the first round and then to mine the talent that they got on day two with Procroft and Romano, you know, Lorelia, like they did very, very well. A plus, A plus. They won the draft for sure. Oh yeah. They, they, they, they nailed it. I know they're, we all know they're trying to move up to get James Higgins.
Starting point is 00:42:15 They were, yeah. Kind of happened, didn't happen, but we're not talking about like a plan B. At Clinton and Atchison, like that's, that's really strong. And by, and by the way, Cam, welcome to the world's loneliest club. I joined when I was 16 years old. I joined when I was 16 years old. I know it and everyone here offers condolences. Who else did it for you?
Starting point is 00:42:37 And by the way, did you see that note online that popped up from a gentleman by the name of Kevin Ferguson about Pat Faloon and the Philadelphia Flyers. No, I did not. So the Philadelphia Flyers took Porter Martone, sixth overall. When Pat Faloon was traded to the
Starting point is 00:42:59 Philadelphia Flyers in 1995. Okay. The picks that went the other way turned into Daniel Brier and Mike Martone, Porter Martone's father. Nice, nice, very nice. Wild one, eh? Just throw that little spice, little flavor puck in there for you. Anyway, Flyers went, like, if we can get on the flyers page here really quickly, like, let me, I got this down here. So, uh, six foot three, two, oh eight, six foot four, one eighty three, six foot six, two thirty two, six foot one, one ninety eight, six foot six, two twelve, six foot five, one ninety five. And I think they were looking at Simon Wang if they hadn't have made that trade with the Penguins with the 31st pick.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I think they were taking the big defenseman from Oshawa. Philadelphia flyers went size. Cam, the Flyers are back, baby. Broad Street bullies, hey, the Redux. They definitely had a type coming into this class and they stuck with it. You know, I'm a huge Porter Martone fan. I think that that was excellent at pick six.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I think that anywhere, and I talked to Porter about this afterwards, you know, is that basically from four till seven, those four guys in that zone, they didn't, they didn't really know where they're going to end up, but they knew they were going to probably fall in line and somewhere in that. And so from our tone at six, I think great value. I think that they, I think they left a little meat on the bone jumping up to get Jack Nesbitt when they could have maybe sat back.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And if he was there, just taking them if not going to skill play there, but obviously they like the power, they like the size, they like the potential. And then like you said, I am a co at 38, huge person, you know, shame that sag. I think it, I think he is a first round talent that they got at 48. Um, you know, I think he has a lot of power forward elements that's going to allow him to play like an energy line role on a third line. That's going to be a playoff type of guy. And then Jack Murtaugh, not the biggest player, but he's, you know, he's got pace, he's got IQ, he's a battler too. So I think Philly did, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:48 mind a lot of value on day two, and they're coming out with a much deeper prospect pool than they came in with. Brady Martin is someone that really rose throughout the year. You and I talked about him at the, what were we, Combine. You and I were talking about Brady Martin,
Starting point is 00:45:03 we were just gonna end up now. I was firmly convinced he was going to Utah. All the signs were, he was going to Utah at the, what are we, Combine. You and I were talking about Brady Martin, we were just gonna end up now. I was firmly convinced he was going to Utah. All the signs were he was going to Utah at four, he ended up going five, Utah took Caleb Dane YA. Utah, interestingly enough, was the only team that visited the farm. Like I would have thought that there would have been more teams.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I would have thought that Nashville and Philly and Boston, like all those teams around there, if you're really looking at Porter Martone considering How much it is part of his story and his background and his makeup? I was shocked that Utah was the only team that visited the he was there for the draft He didn't go up. No, I got stuff to do with the farm I'm here at the farm will set up the big screen and sit on the tractor and watch this thing. But Yusau was the only team that actually went
Starting point is 00:45:47 to visit the farm in Elora. That one surprised you. Yeah, and that was part of the reason why, you know, there was, you know, we had had Intel going back a little bit that not only did he just wow everybody, including Utah at the combine with his interviews and you know, having GMs and stitches in the whole room, you know, Cacklin, is that he impressed them again as like the hardworking individual, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:07 well respected all that, that Utah was really dialed in on him too. Right before the draft, I just got a little nugget of information with how they kind of communicated their last thing where it had more of like a good luck to Brady versus, you know, looking forward to see him on Sunday, which led me down that this is gonna be Caleb De Noye. And I think that they just wanted a little more two-way guy, someone that could fit into their lineup that they're perceiving in the next three to five years where they, I think they really, really liked Brady Martin.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I think that that would have been their second choice if Caleb De Noye wasn't there, but for Nashville. You know, this is a highly, highly competitive player. And you know, like the farm is, like you said, it's such a big part of his world is that, you know, this is a, this is a highly, highly competitive player. And, and you know, like the farm is, like you said, it's such a big part of his world is that, you know, I was told that teams, NCAA teams had come knocking, you know, can we get this guy? Can we recruit him? And basically Brady's like, you know, I'm either going to be a hockey player or I'm going to be a farmer or I'm going to be both. And it's that's, those are the options, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And so, you know, he is highly, highly committed to that, that part of his life. Yeah, and so, you know, he is highly, highly committed to that part of his life. It's funny too, because I thought Nashville was going to take Dane Wye mainly because Barry Trotz at the Memorial Cup was all, and Gordon McDougal laughed about this when we talked to him Friday, me and Pierre during our draft show. Barry Trotz was all over Moncton and all over Dane YA. And that's why, you know, maybe, you know, Utah grabs and was like, ah, that was a guy that that very trots really wanted here. Michael Mesa goes second to the San Jose Sharks to which Cam Robinson says. Amazing, terrific, terrific pick.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I think obviously Matthew Schaeffer would have been the perfect pick for their organization if they had stayed at the pole position there because it just, it would have knocked Sam Dickinson down to a number two role, which I think he's going to be better served long-term. He has so many great tools. Physical package, everything's there for him, but I don't know if he's going to be that true number one guy who's going to eat up 28 minutes. And he might, because he took another step forward this year for London. And we're going to see him in the NHL next year. Schaeffer would have been perfect, but if you can't have Schaeffer having,
Starting point is 00:48:05 having being able to stack Macklin, sell the bringing and Michael Misa down the middle, being able to move Will Smith over to the wing and have him play make off to the side of celebrating all those pieces fit just beautifully into a puzzle for the sharks. And I think that they are, they're nearing the point now, and it won't be this summer, but perhaps next summer that they start to say, okay, now it's time that we overspend on a highly impactful free agent,
Starting point is 00:48:29 maybe a Capri Zof perhaps, or we go out and we spend some of all of this, all these young assets we've accrued now to purchase, that guy, when Chicago went out and got Marion Hosa, right? Where you spend a little more than you should, but you get that piece that can start to push you over the top. And I think San Jose is gonna start to get into that zone,
Starting point is 00:48:48 similar to what Columbus is looking to do right now. Jake O'Brien goes eight to Seattle. I really like this player, highly skilled, has room to grow into his large frame as well. Gary Roberts was hired by the Bulldogs, the Banford Bulldogs as the director of player development. So you know that, well, not just O'Brien, but everybody on the Bulldogs is gonna be on point
Starting point is 00:49:12 when it comes to things like nutrition and their training. So I don't worry about him not getting to NHL size. And now that he's gone to the Bulldogs, I kind of think he's gonna get there early. And he likes fishing, so it's perfect that he goes to Seattle for crying out loud. Let me close on this one.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Quick thought on Jake O'Brien. I was kind of surprised that he was still there at eight, to be honest with you. He was a wild card. I think he had that disruptor potential. I think, again, a lot of teams did like him. I think that he was even considered up as high as two, that it was consideration up that high
Starting point is 00:49:43 up on the board as well. So he's one of these players, and I've made the comparison a few times, Elias Pettersson, that wiry frame, the creative and electric handling ability. He has a pretty good shot. He just doesn't use it enough. Now I found out something interesting about O'Brien too.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So he weighs about 170 pounds right now. Kind of looks like he's got sticks coming out of his shirt sleeves, right? He has put on 25 pounds of muscle in the last two off seasons combined. So that alone, you know, coming in at 145 into the Ontario Hockey League, and he's played big minutes the entire time, his size hasn't been an issue whatsoever. And he's been able to stack on that much weight. I don't think, you know, I don't think that's going to be an issue for him to get up and play at 185 or 190 when he's when he's in his prime of his career. And when you add all the skills that he has, I
Starting point is 00:50:27 think it's a home run for Seattle who needs a genuine superstar and not to say that he's going to 100% get to that level. But I think that of the players remaining on the board there that he 100% had the highest ceiling to make it and to be a true impact player for the Kraken. You know, and then afterwards, you know, the Kraken rattled off four defensemen right away. It's like, OK, we need D. We've got like, Beniers and Wright and Catten. Now we've got now we've got O'Brien. Let's start to address the positional need here.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, for sure. And like Blake Fiddler in the second round, I think that, you know, a right shot defense at six foot four, you know, he was he was in my first round. And I think that probably a few teams had him right around there and it just didn't work out. So getting him at 36 was really good. Even a guy like Carl Hanborn at 205, I think has NHL potential. So they were, they're mining talent.
Starting point is 00:51:14 But like you said, is that, you know, they're pretty stacked up upfront now. And again, some of those names you mentioned, Berkcat and then someone's going to have to move over to the wing longterm. And I imagine it's going to be Catten. So now you've got a Catten playmaking off one side, you've got an O'Brien probably playmaking the middle on a different line and you've got all sorts of talent down the middle to supplement
Starting point is 00:51:31 them too. So now you get a little more size on those wings too and they should be cooking. In the Bauderil era. Cam has been great and long overdue. Great work as always on Elite Prospects. Look forward to catching up again. You be good. Appreciate it. You too, pal. There is Cam Robinson from Elite Prospects, which is, you know, as much as we talk about always having Puckpedia up, and we do, keeping that tab open. EP is the same for me as we're trying to get Cam's shot off here. I think it might be locked on, it might be locked on you here, Cam. Oh, there we go, there's the two shots.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Not getting rid of me now, hey? There we go, what's, Zach just went out for a smoke. That's fine. You gotta switch bands of cigarettes, by the way, Zach. Those are making you cough. All right, Cam, thanks so much for stopping by, as always, it'll be good to have you. Take care, pal.
Starting point is 00:52:24 There he is, Cam Robinson from Elite Prospects. Coming up still on the program, we have something from, there we go, back to the one shot. How you doing there, pal? Zach, you with us today? Zach's too busy in the chat. Is Zach around? No, maybe.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Yes, Zach, this is your segment as we're gonna wrap up the program here. This is what we need. You there, Zach? This is one of the issues where you do shows remotely. Oh, hang on. Am I off? I might be.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Alright, I think we're good. You got me back? Yep, I got you now. What happened? You turned around and there I was, gone? I was the one that somehow got lost this time. I had to get some support to help us get some cameras. Nick Carolli? Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I don't know what the hell happened there. We're calling the reserves, you called Nick. That's what we all do. Oh shit, Carl, call Carolli. Okay, crap, I don't know what to do. Call Carolli. Call Carolli, better call Carolli. I don't know how that happened, why that happened,
Starting point is 00:53:42 but it looked like my internet dropped there. So you were still going, show was good. Well. But I was gone. You know what they say, Zach. You know what they say, Zach. You know what they say, Zach. You know what they say?
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yes, there's nothing like a well-produced show. There's nothing like a well-produced show. A mediocre man is always at his best. Oh, OK. A mediocre man is always at his best okay okay okay man is always at his best whoo that was a pure panic there for a couple of minutes I just I just lost lose the computer I just felt in everything I'm like oh I have an issue I just felt bad for cam because I just signed off signed off with Cam and then we still have the two-shot and he oh no it's actually a one-shot on Cam and he's
Starting point is 00:54:29 just got to sit there doing dog face for like 10 or 15. I know I know I know. Jeez sorry Cam. That's alright it's good prep for him. Again, the meaning of my life is to serve as a warning to others. Alright, let's finish up the program here. We have one more segment here. And by the way, I want to remind you tomorrow, really looking forward to it, you heard Hart, by the way, Hart was awesome. That's the first time we've had Hart Levine on the program here
Starting point is 00:55:02 and I thought Hart was tremendous and he's going to be a large part of our coverage tomorrow of free agent day. In the meantime as we like to remind you at this point of the show the sheet is powered by FanDuel. Home of the same game parlay make every moment more on FanDuel. FanDuel proud to connect fans to the major sports moments that matter to them. What is a major sports moment that matters to us today? Zacharu. So the reason I bring this one up is because the Corey Perry conversation was going on. Yeah. So I'm looking at this from like.
Starting point is 00:55:38 A conspiracy tinfoil hat type of lens here. Oh, geez. OK. To advance to the Stanley Cup finals oh geez out of the Western Conference Jeff here are your odds the Edmonton Oilers top Colorado Avalanche why why is Colorado still there I don't know actually it's a good question I don't sit since they won the cup and then flamed against Seattle the year after in the first round, like again, hasn't the story been the flame out? Why is Colorado, I get it, like Nathan
Starting point is 00:56:14 McKinnon, Kale McCarron, and that's wonderful. But why is Colorado still there? Are they like the new sharks that everyone's going to bite on every single year? Like I used to every single, oh, it's their year, it's their year. And I've been on the avalanche every single year. It's their year, it's their year. Why is Colorado still in that mix? It kind of gives me that same feeling of what you just said about San Jose and like also what happens at the Leafs where like each year it's like, ah, they're not going to.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And then it's like, yeah, yeah, they'll do it. They'll do it. They'll do it. This is the year that it happens this year they take a step and then you if you look and something I've done a lot where you look at the betting odds in the markets it's like they just get respect because they kind of get talked about a lot I feel like it becomes a public yeah and it just becomes like a public thing that's like okay yeah we'll get behind this and then it moves up and up and up. So I
Starting point is 00:57:05 feel like that maybe but the ones I think are not getting enough attention here. Los Angeles Kings plus 1000. I mean, if they land Corey Perry, they're going to the they're going to the finals, right? Like that's what he does. That's the rule. That's the rule. So what are we doing? Pay attention. Tampa, you want to get back, like, I don't know. Bring Corey Perry back. Just bring Corey Perry in.
Starting point is 00:57:27 So I think that we should be, for the advance of the cup finals market, we should just be keeping an eye on where does Corey Perry go. It's not to win the Stanley Cup. We're not betting on to win the Stanley Cup. We're betting on who goes there. And it's whoever has Corey Perry.
Starting point is 00:57:41 So that's where I think we need to be looking. And if it's Stanley Kings. I hope that, and yeah, if Corey Perry so that's where I hope to be looking and if it's a la Kings and I hope that and yeah if Corey Perry ends up signing with the Los Angeles Kings tomorrow or on the second or whenever all of a sudden like they got a they got a flip with Colorado because they have the Corey Perry factor here's what I hope yeah seems like Corey Perry wants to play forever seems like Corey Perry wants to be the last man standing from the 2003 draft, and that's cool. What I hope is that Corey Perry plays hockey long enough,
Starting point is 00:58:13 I can still play long enough for Anaheim to be good again and win the Stanley Cup with Corey Perry. And then he can end his career. And then he goes to center ice and he takes his skates off. Oh my heart. Oh yes. Oh now he's up in the crowd somewhere. And Timo Solani and the eight drunk fins that traveled around the Anaheim Ducks in 2007
Starting point is 00:58:42 is all buckled. Ryan Gloff, who's the general manager of a team by then has left the NHL department of player safety is there. He's in the hockey hall of fame by then. He's like, Corey, what's taking you so long, man? I just got in the hall of fame and you're still effing around playing hockey. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Same draft, but what are you doing? I'm already in the hall. Where you got an NHL draft? Into the darkness, yeah. Yeah. wrong with you. We're in the same draft, but what are you doing? I'm already in the hall. I'm already in any shell trap. Into the darkness, yeah. Yeah. Good thought, Zach. That's a perfect way to go out. Well done, good thought.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Okay, listen, once again, I wanna remind you tomorrow, please join us at our daily Face Off YouTube channel that is right here where you're watching now. If you're listening on Spotify, on Apple pods, if you can find some time tomorrow, I'd love to have you aboard. It's our daily face-off free agent special starting at 11 o'clock Eastern tomorrow and on the program tomorrow we'll include but not exclusive to yours truly I'll be on a panel with Johnny Lazarus and Colby Cohen. Expect Ranger talk.
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