The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Get Ready to Rumble ft. Greg Wyshynski

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Live from Sunrise, Florida, The Sheet with Jeff Marek and co-host Greg Wyshynski wraps up a wild week of MvsW. The guys react to the breaking news of Chris Kreider being traded from the New York Range...rs to the Anaheim Ducks and what it means for both franchises. Also digging into potential trades for Lafreniere and K'Andre Miller, if the Rangers are rebuilding, and more on NYC. Wyshynski also pitches an interesting idea for Lady Byng voting and the NHL Awards process in general... Plus, with Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final on deck, they dive into what each team needs to do as the series hits a critical point#NHL #StanleyCupFinal #TheSheet #MvsW #JeffMarek #GregWyshynski #ChrisKreider #AnaheimDucks #NewYorkRangers #NHLTrade #Game4 #FloridaPanthers #EdmontonOilers #HockeyTalk #NHLPlayoffs #NHLNews #StanleyCup2025Shout out to our sponsors!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Ninja Kitchen Canada: https://www.ninjakitchen.ca/products/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system-zidFN101CGY?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=olv&utm_campaign=25Q2-Crispi&utm_content=en👍🏼Budweiser: https://www.budweiser.ca/ca_enReach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 The Baptist Health Rink. The practice facility for the Florida Panthers. Can I tell a quick tale out of school? Go ahead. Something you just whispered to me before you went on the air. You had a two cigar night. I did. Right in a row.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Your mother and I are very concerned about you. I had one at the cigar bar and then I bought one at the cigar bar to have outside of our hotel. Can I tell you something out of school? Of course! I saw a Godzilla-sized lizard climb up a tree outside of the practice rink here in Florida. So I go for long walks here. Yeah. I just love it.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Yeah. And are they geckos? They keep running all over my feet? They're little little tiny lizard geckos, but this thing was like a full-fledged like Gila monster I think is a Gila monster and it was just like stalking around and climbing up trees and doing all these things and it was a little disconcerting for me as a city boy that's again as a city boy we see big rats we don't see tiny tiny dinosaurs that's the difference how big was this thing is I try to get Pat's attention to get my... I would say it was the size of a large submarine sandwich from Jersey Mike's.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Whoa, whoa, whoa. They sliced the meat for you. Well, it's been fun. It's been fun. We're seeing dragon-sized creatures, which is good. And that's wonderful. We have a game for tonight. It's interesting doing this program live every day at 3, because the lion's share of people that are going to listen to it We'll have already of course known the outcome of tonight's game We won't talk about it, but it's gonna be pretty dated material only really relevant for a few hours
Starting point is 00:03:56 So what I want to do today before we get to all of our Promotions and mention all of our fantastic sponsors and by the way you're a bud guy again today. I am a bud guy. I'd like to say something before we start the fact that in our last show here in Florida apparently I've decided to cosplay as your lawyer well you've decided to cosplay as someone who was picked up for a misdemeanor with your with your with your hoodie and your t-shirt and such. There is there is that it just that this rink is really cold. Like that's all it is. I tried to dress it up and class it up a little bit earlier
Starting point is 00:04:30 on in the week here at the practice facility. It's chilly, man. Smack your ass and catch it when it pops out. It is not warm in here. And maybe that's why the ice is so good, because it's nice and freezing in here. In the practice facility, it's good. In the other rink, they've been complaining about it.
Starting point is 00:04:43 But here, it's good. Yeah, I mean, the ice seemsink, they've been complaining about it, but here it's good. Yeah, I mean, the ice seems good. I mean, it's really chilly here. I know the ice they're complaining about at Amarin Bank Arena, but that rink's cold, man. I know. When people get into the facility, I know the temperature warms up a little bit,
Starting point is 00:05:00 but walking into that rink yesterday, woo hoo. If you're somebody who thinks that the ice isn't good in the Stanley Cup final I've got bad news for you. It's always going to be bad. None of these teams pay estate income tax, they're all gonna be good for a very long time. It is Dallas, Vegas, the two Florida teams, Nashville in perpetuity. The ice is never gonna be good again. Can I mention something here real quickly about ice? But as someone pointed out to me a while ago, and I'm always reminded about this
Starting point is 00:05:31 the ice in the NHL The NHL rinks will never be as good as the practice facilities. Every rink is multi-use Yeah And there's always the fight over the thermometer in the NHL where the general manager and the coach and the players, they want the rank cold because they want the quality of ice really high. But the president of the team would like to keep their season ticket holders happy. Thank you very much. And they don't want people wearing large coats and boots.
Starting point is 00:06:02 They want to be comfortable while they spend as much money as possible. Mrs Vanderbilt has spent $25,000 for these tickets and she does not want to have to wear her fur to the games. There's a fight over the thermometer and where the proper temperature should be. Yeah. The GM and the coach want one, the players want one, and then the president and the people that are concerned with people that, know I say lights on in Florida they should let the customer be right because honestly the more the ice is a slurpee yeah the better it is for the
Starting point is 00:06:32 Panthers considering who they're playing against don't you think yeah yeah you really want to slow down Edmonton yeah that really wasn't a factor a couple how do you feel about about stadium and arena chicanery one of my favorite things ever was at the Meadowlands a a giant stadium, they would open or close the giant doors to the outside to create wind or shut off wind depending on who was kicking in what direction during Giants and Jets games. See if I'm running a league I hate it but if I'm like the local fan base I love it and for someone like me who doesn't have dogs in any of these fights I love it. And for someone like me who doesn't have dogs in any of these fights, I love it. I love like, like decidedly giving yourself home field or in this case home ice
Starting point is 00:07:09 advantage. Let me ask you this then. I've told this story countless times. Doug McLean would tell me when he was running the Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh Penguins, when he was running the Florida Panthers, when Pittsburgh, there was that great series that the Florida Panthers had against the Pittsburgh Penguins and I was like, how did you slow them down? He goes, I just had the Zamboni driver dump extra water on the ice. So I'm talking about turn into a slushie we would dump extra water and slow everything down.
Starting point is 00:07:32 This is what I'm talking about and Mario's like this is a local pool league or a garage league. I think it was Scotty Bowman who would always paint the visitor dressing room when the new team came to town. Right. Oh, we're so happy to have the Detroit Red Wings here in Montreal. We just hated your dressing room and everyone walk in knocked out by paint. Well, hept up on goofballs for the game. Can we ask you this? Is there different heights?
Starting point is 00:07:58 I was thinking about the green monster in Boston recently. The big wall at Fenway Park. Yes. Don't you think in all sports we should have more specially designed stadia? I'm guessing that was grandfathered in, but shouldn't there be a rink somewhere in the NHL where the boards are like five times the height? You could just play the puck off the boards like it's the green monster. There are, listen, there used to be, as as you well know it was Chicago, Boston and Buffalo whose rink surfaces were smaller than the 200 by 85. Now all rinks are all the same and it's all standard 200 by 85 but I like
Starting point is 00:08:36 that because how you constructed your team was different based on the rate that you had and that was real home ice advantage. Yeah it's like it's like how in Yankee Stadium they have this short porch in left field or right field rather so you want to get a bunch of left-handed hitters that could take advantage of it. I love it. I love that. Or like the only example that I can raise although I think there's some examples in college hockey too in Peterborough in the OHL the boards are really tight the corners yeah so it's it's they're not they're rounded, but they're more square than they are rounded.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So if you do a hard rim dump in, the thing's squirting back out in front of the net. Right. Home ice advantage. Yeah. Hear me out. I like, I love stuff like that. In Vegas, they have it timed where sharp spikes shoot out from the boards every five minutes. They do not have snow. No, I'm saying they should do that.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Oh, they should do that. Yeah, and that would be a distinct home ice advantage where you're a little bit afraid going to the corners if in fact it's the timer going off and these spikes shoot out from the boards. Once upon a time, boy, we're really reaching back here. There was a home ice advantage with penalty boxes. Yeah? Where the penalty box, there would be one penalty box
Starting point is 00:09:48 on one side of the ice and another on the other side of the ice. And so the home team, when they exited the penalty box, would be right beside their bench for a change and the other team had to skate across. Now the idea behind that was we don't want guys in the penalty box both coming out and fighting. But then they realized, oh wait a minute,
Starting point is 00:10:03 that's a real distinct advantage for one team. but if we're gonna play the home ice advantage game why not have like the home penalty box right beside the bench yeah and the visitors like far off in a corner right or hear me out the visitors penalty box always has a giant bucket of ice water ready to pour down on the man inside the penalty box sponsored by the Sony and that's just part of the arena They couldn't figure out how to build the arena without the ice bucket above the visitors penalty box There's actually a dunk tank in the That's the standard that pay a premium that's the spirit dunk that I love it for charity
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Starting point is 00:11:00 More on the Chris Kreider deal to Anaheim. Man, it looks jarring seeing him in orange. And smiling. And being happy about it. And perhaps more from the New York Rangers on the horizon. We'll talk about the Lady Bing, and you've isolated one player who we're wondering how he got any Lady Bing votes. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:11:41 you think about rock-ribbed American originals. That's you. Well, outside of the rock-ribbed part. Budweiser is encouraging buds to make time for playoffs not excuses. Every goal, every check, every win is better enjoyed with your buds. Phone a bud, text a bud, ping a bud and call out their excuses for bailing on the playoffs. After all the playoffs are the most wonderful time of the year. Make them count. when it's springtime it's go time. By the way I was really happy when I entered the rink here today because you know my happy
Starting point is 00:12:13 place is watching kids skate. Yes. I got the end of it yesterday at the end of the program. There was a full sheet of probably 30 kids out here. Yeah. As I came in like had a long day. It's been a lot of running around today. I got a really really flight tomorrow. It's back up. it's phone calls, it's radio and TV hits, and then I came into the rink and I saw the kids skating and everything in my life was good. That's beautiful. Now, one thing I did want to mention, I want to have a conversation with you about Paul Maurice and the phenomenon of the philosopher coach.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yes. Okay, before we get to Criator, I want to have a sort of extended convo here about Paul Maurice. Now, full disclosure, when I was doing color for the Toronto Marlies... That's an American Hockey League franchise. American Hockey League of the Year. Over from St. John's and Maple Leafs to Toronto to play at the then Rico now Coca-Cola Coliseum and and Paul Maurice was the coach and so I got to know I got to know Paul there didn't really know him in the OHL that well but got to know him in the American League and in 2000 and would have been seven I
Starting point is 00:13:20 think okay so I was we're as it was a pregame show that I was doing. So I was doing the Leaps Lent Show with Bill Waters. So it was a two hour daily radio show, Samwellcast on Leaps TV. And Bill was, Bill was pivotal to my career. He introduced me to tons of people, most notably agents. He was a former agent himself. And just sort of introduced me to the industry. And that's why to this day I owed that of gratitude to Bill Waters. And then I got this offer in early fall to leave that property and go to Hockey Night in Canada, which you would think is just like a no-brainer. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:57 It's a big step up. Hockey Night in Canada, dude. You get to go from talking about the Leafs on Leafs Lunch to talking about the Leafs on Hockey Night in Canada. Hey, listen man, you look at Leafs on Hockey Night in Canada. Hey, listen man, you look at the viewership numbers, you understand why. But I was really torn about it. And I was really loyal to Bill and I knew that he wouldn't like it and he probably would
Starting point is 00:14:15 be pissed off at me. And he's a guy that helped really get me my start in this industry. And I was really torn. And we were doing a show downtown at a convention center Paul Maurice was coming in to be our guest and I was just talking to Paul before the show and I said hey can I ask your opinion on something and he's like sure I'm like you know keep it on the DL here I haven't told Bill yet but I got an offer to go to hockey night in Canada but I'm really split because I'm really loyal to Bill and I know like
Starting point is 00:14:45 This is this is hockey night, right? It's both from doing ringside and doing the old hockey name Canada radio show on serious And but I'm really loyal to bill and I'm sort of torn here. Like what should I do? And he gave me like this What the hell are you? You have to go Like they stop this What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:15:06 Right. And that was the moment where I made my final decision. Paul Maurice gave you the encouragement you needed to go and begin your career. This is the same in every single position in hockey. And broadcasting is no different. You have an opportunity to take a step up the rung of the ladder. You have to do it. And that was the last one for me.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And I've always remembered that conversation with Paul. And now Maurice has turned into the philosopher king. Philosopher king, yeah. Now, I may be biased, but I really, every press conference, every interview, all of it, I'm addicted to watching all of them. Because whether it's you learn something, or you're just like, for me anyway,
Starting point is 00:15:43 the way he uses the language and his turn of phrase, I'm addicted to all of it. You could tell he's got a writer's brain because even in the moments in which he is repeating some tropes that as someone who's now covered the Panthers for multiple rounds, I might've heard in previous press conferences, he remixes them like a good writer would he he puts them into new places and Repurposes them to help make his points better now the one thing that I find interesting about Maurice. I was talking to Anton Lindell of the Panthers
Starting point is 00:16:16 I'm like, alright, so in Finnish or in English in English. Okay, by the way, Chris Johnston unleashed one of the greatest This is what the Finnish language sounds like impressions that I've ever heard last night. Oh yeah? It's, I, it was in tears. Do you want to share it? No, I'm not going to do it. You can't do it? I can't do it justice.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Alright. So I'm talking to Lindell and I'm like, alright, you've had Paul now for three years. Has the message stayed fresh? Like has anything gotten a little old? Having the same coach for three years? And Alondale's like, look, you guys know him. He's always got new quotes. And I said to myself,
Starting point is 00:16:53 that might be one of the real tricks to Maurice's success, is that, you know, coaches at some point have used up all of their AIM material for motivation or for teaching or for what have you. I kind of feel like he can just keep going. I kind of feel like that's a bottomless well of references and stories and jokes and what have you. And the other thing about Maurice that I really love too is he's very open about the fact that his job is to be the guy that gives the speech.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And he stresses about giving the speech. And there are times when he'll come to us in the media and say, I gave the wrong speech, which he did a couple times in the final last year. And I really appreciate the fact that he, as much as he's stressing about what the game plan is gonna be, he's like the president in Independence Day.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I gotta, Pullman's gotta give the speech or else they can't blow up the mothership. It's the same principle here with Maurice. He's gotta give the right speech or else they can't close up the mothership. It's the same principle here with Maurice. He's got to give the right speech or else they can't close out the series and win the cup. I appreciate that about him. I just love that there's this really gritty, aggressive, old school looking, although still analytically driven hockey team that isn't shy about blending skill and violence,
Starting point is 00:18:08 not unlike what the Philadelphia Flyers did in the 70s, what the Islanders did later in the 80s. And that at the end of it, at the end of all of it, the voice of the team is this philosopher through all of it. Like, here's a collection of, with all due respect, Matthew Kachak, it's a bunch of cavemen, right? Probably highly skilled cavemen, but it's a bunch of cavemen out there that are kind of doing like cavemen things out there. And overseeing all of it is the philosopher king of the NHL, Paul Maurice.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Now, I understand the idea of dressing up the same message over and over again in different words. I was saying this to someone last night out at dinner. My entire career, I started 1995, my entire career and I'll do it again here today, I've only asked one question. I have one question that I always ask but I just ask it in different ways you know what that question is what's that how does this work yeah that's it I've honestly I've asked no other question other than that one right and I leave every show going again I just asked one
Starting point is 00:19:17 question it's dressed up in different ways it's dressed up in different ways for different people but essentially it's the same question how does this work I do want to just give a little bit of a shout out to the people that hear you say what you say about Paul Maurice as the philosopher king overseeing the Warriors and just think he's full of shit there are some people like we're stuck because you know why now that he's been you hang around long enough it's the old David Lee Rothfine you stick your head up above a crowd eventually someone's gonna throw a rock.
Starting point is 00:19:48 But like I put on Twitter the other day that Paul told us that he goes back, whoever wins the cup every year, he goes back and watches every single game of that team's run to the championship to understand how they did it. And I think that's fabulous and I think that the more you learn about the success of others, you can become more successful. But I noticed that there was a little bit of a turn in the reaction to that story of, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:15 like people just being like, this man is so far up his own ass that he's gonna need to hire a group of Sherpas to rescue him from the crevice. I appreciate that too. I think there is a certain amount of, and I think it's to his credit, there's a certain amount of media showmanship to Paul where if you hit him with a question, you can rely on the fact that it's not going to be a one word answer.
Starting point is 00:20:41 You can rely on the fact that no matter what you throw at you, he will mold and shape it into a philosophical response. And the thing that makes him great to speak to the haters is that there are coaches that do that. Damn, Bilesma. And they, people leave the room being like, this guy just needs to be the smartest guy in the room, but all the time I don't like him. When Maurice does it, it's a different vibe. It's like, well, that's a very thoughtful man. But he's trying to give you a good answer. Yeah. And you know the one thing that Maurice is bad at? But I don't think he comes off as a dick for doing that either. I think people think he comes off as a dick, but I don't think he does.
Starting point is 00:21:13 No, because there's enough self-depreciation in what he says. That's a good point too. There's a lot of self-deprecation in that. He really, deprecation, there he goes. Yeah. I used the wrong phrase. Bad broadcaster. Self-depreciation is what we're seeing from John Klingberg the series The asset the asset is depreciating it's too bad cuz we're saying like the same clean We're switching that Vegas series. Yeah, you know, it's like really clean hard passes out. Yeah in the line again He's getting shots through the stride is back Yeah, this guy really have double hip surgery Did he go to lords to bathe in holy water and come back healthy?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Like oh, it's a different John Klingberg. Yeah, and then he met the Florida the only thing that I mean It's not good when you're the highlight of your game is holding Matthew Kachuck's arms So someone can punch him which I guess in some ways is virtuous, but in other ways Jake Walton definitely appreciated it. Anyway for Maurice you're saying deprecation No, but that too, but you know what? The other thing that he's really mastered is... Silence. You know, a lot of press,
Starting point is 00:22:12 I always tell this to young broadcasters, once you make silence your friend, then you can really begin to do this job. It draws you in. It draws you in and allows your points to hit. And what Paul does is he pauses better than anybody and really does draw you in. And I'm doing this right now for a fact
Starting point is 00:22:34 to show you how silence can be your friend. And that's what Paul does. He does, he does it really well. Like he's a great orator. Like there's been some great coaches before that like Fred Schiro was always the bastard with the quotes, you know, take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor.
Starting point is 00:22:52 You can see Paul Maurice saying that about the Florida Panthers. So let me get your, we'll get to the game. When today we'll walk together forever, that's another great one. We'll get to the game in a second, but I am curious, like I was reminiscing with some people about him being, when he was hired.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And none of us were really blown away. None of us were like, oh, that's the key to unlock the Panthers potential. I don't think any of us were really like, wow, that's the guy. So what was it about this fit? Right guy at the time when the talent level exponentially increased? What is it about him and this team that's given him the greatest success of his career, along with the greatest success of the Panthers franchise's history? I'll be honest with you. It's something that we don't like to talk about.
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's something that we never really talk about yeah a lot yes it's Scientology oh no it's not a side it was I told you the whole time cruising Scientology as a matter of he measured the feet and count of Matthew Kachuck and what is it it's a it's a horrible answer it's especially a horrible sports talk radio answer and it's luck. The one thing we don't ever like to talk about is luck. So luck in the context of what here? This position became available and we didn't know that this coach was gonna resonate with this group of people until we actually brought him here. Why does it work here where it didn't, although he got to the
Starting point is 00:24:21 final before, work with Carolina or Toronto or Winnipeg. Why? You just don't know until you try it. It's the spirit of we think this guy will resonate with this team. It makes a lot of sense. He interviewed well. But do you ever really know when a coach is going to quote-unquote work with the team? No, you don't. The coach, it's so because you're dealing with so many different personalities and the coach himself has a personality Especially someone that's that's bringing with him years of experience years It's like Hartford whaler years of experience like OHL experience
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah, you're right and like youngest coach and all those types of things for this way. I remember talking to Paul and all those types of things. I'll put it this way. I remember talking to Paul when he was coaching the Marlies, and I said, what was your welcome to the NHL moment? What's the one thing that you remember where you said like, oh man, I'm in the NHL? And he said it was his first practice,
Starting point is 00:25:17 blew the whistle, guys gather around. He said, all right, two hard laps and blew the whistle again. And he said, Sammy Kapanen took off and skated faster than I've ever seen anyone skate in my life. And I was like, that was his welcome to the NHL moment. He's coaching against Sammy Kapanen's son in the Stanley Cup final.
Starting point is 00:25:39 So that's the history that Paul Maurice brings to this position. Dude, I'm telling you, it's luck like I know we always want to be this is People that do what we do for a living we have to have a reason or explanation for everything So we don't like to say it's luck a lot of the Florida Panthers a lot of the Vegas Golden Knights a lot of like Whomever's won the Stanley Cup the thing we don't want to talk about is Lock right coach right time right coach right time, but you don't know it Ruby and st. Louis right coach right time right coach right time but you don't know it like you Ruby in st. Louis right coach right time yep yep I mean a 100% them them sticking with trots in Washington yeah coach right time I mean it there's
Starting point is 00:26:15 a certain amount of luck inherent in that because they they mean they wanted Cassidy here and they didn't get him and then they were think they wanted to bore maybe and I don't know what his contractual situation was at that point if that was The summary he was hired in Dallas or not, but they ended up with Maurice and I remember I remember when he was hired Talking to Bill Zito and Zito being like he just walked in and impressed everybody They blew us away with the Paul Maurice routine and that's how he got the gig And now he's a couple wins away from being a multiple time Stanley Cup champion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And you know the one thing I keep coming back to? What's that? Is how different is everything if Brad Marchand scores on Sergei Bobrovsky? Yeah. That breakaway. Sliding doors moment. That breakaway. Is Paul even here? Is Bobrovsky even here?
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Starting point is 00:28:18 your first purchase. That's bombas.ca slash the sheet and use the sheet at checkout. Quick couple of thoughts here on game four because not a lot of this is going to stand other than the next couple of hours for whoever listens to it. Some lineup changes. I don't know why I am irrationally happy about this, but Jeff Skinner is playing tonight. Jeff Skinner is in, Victor Arvidsson's out. I don't understand the Arvidsson move. I don't know what. I mean I think he's better than Skinner. He's contributed. He scored a goal in game one. I mean I feel like that's probably a change for changes sake. The Stetcher-Klingberg thing's obvious. This one's a little bit weirder for me. I don't
Starting point is 00:29:01 quite get the logic there. Or is it an of that they're putting more of the accent on skill I guess I mean he's a he's a better finisher than Arvidsson overall and maybe that's that's a lap shot in game one sir and maybe that's I mean I don't know but I mean that's the sense I get is that skinner is a better finisher now that the other skinner is the more interesting one is the fact that he they stuck with Stu and I want to I want to note this about Stuart Skinner. Mr. Game Four. We'll see whether or not that label still sticks
Starting point is 00:29:29 by the time you listen to this. He was, two things about Skinner. He talked to the media in what was the only room in the entire facility that was warm. He had showered, he was in his suit to go to the bus. And let me tell you, this man was the Bellagio Fountains. I have never seen anybody sweatier and continuing to sweat in a full suit, mind you. He's sweating through his suit until it had to be acknowledged. I think it was Ryan Rashog who said, hey Stu, put in some extra time today. And Skinner
Starting point is 00:30:04 is like literally waterfalls It was incredible. Yeah, second thing. He said one of the most interesting things I've ever heard a starting goalie say today What's that someone asked him? Hey Stu, you know How worried were you about starting game four? Like how did you think they might give Calvin the start? You know what Skinner said? He said, oh, I wasn't concerned about it. I don't think it's quite, quite time for panic yet.
Starting point is 00:30:33 The indication being that putting in Calvin Bickard, 6-0 in the playoffs, the guy who basically cleaned up Stu's mess in the first round against the LA Kings would be a sign of panic. I was blown away when he said that. If it's two nothing early. Yeah, that is panic. A couple of things in the chat. Here's another one. JKR devil, how different is everything if Pittsburgh beat Chicago in the last week of the 2023 season? There it is. Like there's so much of this. JKR knows what's up. Everywhere. Yep. And Singzy adds, we need to be doing this in a bar with beers, Jeff and Wish,
Starting point is 00:31:11 this whole crew. No, no, I think it's much better to do it here. You probably can't see it within the frame here, but there are a lot of children around. A lot of delightful children around. They're on the ice. They're over here. it's during summer camp here at the Panthers practice facility, and the children have become closer and closer to where we are. So when Uncle Greg says things like shit and balls, it makes him nervous that these impressionable young kids can hear it. I like to only do that to my own children and tell them eventually not to say those words, but to other people's children, I'm afraid of the legalities of sharing my
Starting point is 00:31:47 particular vernacular with these young impressionables. It's not the kids. I got news for you. It's the parents. That's right. Those ones that are like right over there, over your right shoulder. That's right.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Who are listening to you. That's great. Fantastic. Oh, thanks, guys. But yeah, no, we should definitely, we should, oh, I'm good. Thank you so much. We should definitely do this at a bar at some point. We've had some great meetups. We've had some great live shows. Oh, yeah, no, we should definitely we should um good. Thank you so much We should definitely do that do this at a bar at some point. We've had some great meetups
Starting point is 00:32:06 But we've had some great live shows Oh, yeah Do you ever the live show we did in Toronto where we had the Sweden Finland Summit? By having the journalists from Sweden Finland on stage together to work out their their nonsense you you know my favorite What's that was New York? You know why why I've never seen you a happier than when you got to meet Joe Sarella Oh my god, New Jersey Devil Joe's right. That's right. You know why? Why? I've never seen you happier than when you got to meet Joe Cerella. Oh my god. New Jersey Devil Joe Cerella.
Starting point is 00:32:27 That's right. Kyle Dubas is there. And Foley's. Yeah, Kyle Dubas was there. Joe Cerella's here? I was so excited. Yeah. That was very cool.
Starting point is 00:32:35 RIP Foley's. Yeah, RIP. That was a great spot. Did you ever get one of the balls? Did you get the MVSW ball? I don't know where it is. I think it's in storage. I think it's in storage somewhere.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But yeah, it's, we'll get it. We'll find storage. Ah. I think it's in storage somewhere. But yeah, it's, uh, we'll get it. We'll find it. OK. Um, the other big news story, like the game tonight is going to play itself out and what's going to happen is what's going to happen. We'll chat about it on the program tomorrow. By the way, tomorrow this program is at the CHL awards.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Oh, wow. More on that later on. Yeah, I know, right? I know it's, uh. Exciting. I'm a junior hockey geek. I am. I, I, I, any awards?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Are you going to be doing the red carpet? Who are you wearing? No, you know what? I'm not doing anything other than like getting off a plane I know it's a hamming hot. I am. I am. Hey, any awards? Are you going to be doing the red carpet? Who are you wearing? No, you know what? I'm not doing anything other than like getting off a plane and like getting in an Uber and getting right there. Maybe like dressing in putting my suit on in the what is the what is the peak prize? What is the best picture?
Starting point is 00:33:18 Oscar Oscar of the CHL Awards player of the year. Do we know who's going to win it? I'm going to guess Gavin McKenna, but I have no idea. Oh, yeah He's pretty good. He's he's all right. It's not bad. You may have heard of him a couple times You know my theory about McKenna by the way, you've got theory on Gavin McKenna. Yeah. Well about his draft year I think that the NHL changed the way they do the lottery drawing this year as a test run knowing that McKenna's draft next year is going to be the next like, McDavid draft.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Like I feel like they wanted to do the live drawing to see if they could do it in preparation of what's going to be like an extremely well, high viewership event next year. There's a few that are coming, like Maddox Schultz a couple years away, Land DuPont all these guys are coming from the Western hockey league But McKenna's the guy We've got enough big teams that suck right now that the lottery next year the lottery drawing next year could be a major television event
Starting point is 00:34:19 For McKenna that way Mario wants to buy the penguins Sorry, Mario wants to get back there. Everything he's told us to do again. Yeah, McKenna, hey? Yeah, Mario's like, oh Gary, I'd love to help you out. I wish there was something you could do for me if I could keep this team in Pittsburgh. All right, the trade, the Rangers. The Rangers West. Yep. The Anaheim Docs. So the Chris Crider deal is done. Kerry Terrence, by the way, the prospect who's going. I went to see I only went to see Erie once this year and it was mainly to go watch Matthew Schaefer. My kid was playing in the tournament there. They're playing
Starting point is 00:34:58 against your favorite junior hockey team. The Sarnia Sting. Sarnia Sting. That's right. Two-way player. This is the Scouting Report. I've only watched him play at the Royal Juniors where he may or may not have won back-to-back gold medals. I'm a little foggy on those memories. Two-way player, great captain, kids love him. I don't know where he's going to project into the NHL, but people say this guy's going to
Starting point is 00:35:23 play in the NHL. Yeah. I don't think he's gonna be your top six guy, probably your bottom six guy, hard worker, north south skater. Great. New York guy too. Here's the thing I'm trying to wrap my brain around on this Cryder stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:36 The New York Rangers have blown up their core because they didn't feel as though the core of their team was built to contend in the playoffs. The Anaheim Ducks have acquired two parts of that core at the very least in an effort to figure out how to contend in the playoffs. Something's not connecting here for me. Again, it goes back to our last conversation. You never know how players are going to gel and vibe and mix. Yeah. Everyone's everyone's taking guesses here. One, Cryder to me screams playoff or a power play. Completely.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Like that like. Yeah, if he called out and he gets he could play short handed too. He's a good he's a good penalty killer. 100 100 percent and totally needed a change of scenery. That was obvious. Like there's a lot of accumulated baggage. Yeah. With Chris Cryder at this point with the New York Rangers. And I guess they had been upfront with them since the season ended that this is what we are going to do.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Now the Rangers have some flexibility. We'll get more on that in a couple of moments. But again, like I said yesterday on the show, like I looked at, if you're watching us on YouTube, look at that. So happy. Crider. Look at that. With the Anaheim. He's got a duck. I love it. I got my little ducky on my chest
Starting point is 00:36:45 I'm so happy He was out of all the players in the Rangers locker room He was the one that was most upset with the way that they treated Truba and the way that they treated Barclay good row Like he was extremely I mean I I'd go as far as to say that he felt that it was a betrayal the way that Chris Drury handled those situations. So obviously it's in the best interest of both teams to get Kreider out of there, give him a reset, they get his cap space, they get to continue to reshape the core into the
Starting point is 00:37:18 image of JT Miller. And you know, for the Ducks, we talked about it yesterday. I'm intrigued to see where the Dominoes fall in their lineup with Krider now on left wing. But that's a place that needed some- Their left wing is stacked. Yeah, they needed some other adults in the room and I don't hate it. I don't hate it at all for them. Again, like I was mentioning yesterday, Anaheim's going to be one of the most interesting teams to follow in this offseason.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So is Utah, so is Dallas, but Anaheim is right up there. Now I had a source tell me when the Criter trade went down that part of the reason the Rangers wanted the financial flexibility was for potential offer sheets. Yeah. And I think I misinterpreted what that meant. I thought that meant they were gonna go on offense, but I'm not sure they have the picks to do so. I think it's more about if you're coming for Will Cooley or coming for Keandre Miller,
Starting point is 00:38:09 we'll be ready now. We have the space to handle that. The question now becomes, because no one thinks for a second that Chris Churi is done with the Rangers. Right. Keandre Miller. They're trading him. Alexi Lafreniere.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I think he stays. Based Based on that I don't I'm not convinced that he is as Tradeable an asset as people believe he is so do you think that with that contract I Think they might be stuck with him for a little bit there becomes a certain Colby Cohen always makes this point I'm warning Cup of hockey and I think he's right about it There becomes a certain point in your career where you're no longer the player that was drafted at a certain position right there's only so long you can say oh you're trading a first overall pick yeah or yeah you're getting a first overall pick there comes a certain point in a
Starting point is 00:38:59 player's career and it's probably that when you change from potential to actual, right, and this is like really you. So the pick itself no longer matters whatsoever. I'm guessing you feel that we're there with Alexi. We are like at certain points, we've seen the best that he will ever be. They overcompensated him. They overcompensated him for what they projected he could do. Yeah. And other teams may not necessarily agree with the math on that.
Starting point is 00:39:31 By the way, your draft position does matter when you score 14 goals in the playoffs and everyone's like, and people forget Sam Bennett was the fourth overall pick. You know what I mean? Like all of a sudden it's like, oh my God, remember? Remember the skill inherent in this player? Guys never hurt 30 goals in the regular season, but look what he's done. That's skill befitting of the fourth overall pick. It was just a matter of time.
Starting point is 00:39:53 It was just a matter of time. It didn't matter that he couldn't do a chin up at combine. Fourth overall pick. I completely forgot that was Bennett. I wrote about Bennett this week, about his time in Calgary and all of it, and I had memory hold the fact that he was the guy that A couldn't do a chin-up and then did a TV spot with either Sportsnet or TSN where he did like four of them just to show that he could do them.
Starting point is 00:40:20 But like the idea that the ultimate playoff warrior, the big bushy-beard bastard who's knocking out goalies and scoring goals is probably gonna win the cons might was the guy who couldn't do a pull-up It's a scouting combine. I cannot believe we've come this far with Sam Bennett I was having a long what I watched when I was at the combine have a long conversation with someone talking about how What the sweet spot is for players of that age, like the draft eligible guys. Yeah. How many games should they actually play versus how much gym time should they have? Like college kids get a ton of gym time.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Right. Like a ton and they're physically stronger and they go and they, they, they mash the combine because of it where junior kids in the CHL 68 games interesting and a lot of why is that a lot of time on the bus because the the the philosophy in the CHL has always been try as much as you can to replicate an NHL season yeah Then this hasn't changed in years. Now perhaps with the realities of the new relationship with with Division 1 schools and players ability to go from CHL to college that may change. But there is a feel, I'll tell
Starting point is 00:41:35 you, a lot of conversations that I had in Buffalo last week revolved around the idea that not only, like two things. One, there may be too many games a year in the CHL. And two, not enough college games. That college needs to come up a bit and CHL needs to come down. And I wonder how you get more games in college. Christmas break's too long. Tournaments and such?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Christmas break is too long. Yeah. And just book games. You go down a level into like high school basketball let's say the holiday break is populated by tournaments like the athletes were still on the clock during the holiday break when you go down a level so it makes sense that maybe maybe you put together a little a little a little little Christmas tournament of some sort in the NCAA it is interesting though though because kids don't get it, especially kids that go deep in their playoffs or in their Memorial Cup.
Starting point is 00:42:31 A lot of the guys, I can't remember that year, the London Knights, that was Mitch Marner, Dvorak, Kachak, Ole Olevi, like that year. Those guys at the combine, they didn't work it? I'm not going to do any of it. I'm not gonna not gonna do any I'm gonna be honest with you like I think this is all very salient and I and I and you obviously learned it at the combine but my Canadian exceptionalism alarm is going off a little bit on the CHL kids know how to hockey because they play more and so I'm not saying no our heads you don't know how to hockey no no what
Starting point is 00:43:03 what the feeling with what the feeling is now is they play too many games in the CHL and it actually hurts them. Wow. That you should spend, at that age, you should spend more time in the gym, less time playing games, and less time on long bus trips. You know where they should spend the most time?
Starting point is 00:43:21 Where? In the classroom, ladies and gentlemen. In the classroom, ladies and gentlemen. In the classroom. Learning about the world through science and math. Don't you think so? In a perfect world? Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:36 They should. Right. But in hockey? Do that. They will not ever. So you don't think the anyone thinks the Rangers are done here? Somehow. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I don't know. No one thinks the New York Rangers are done. Now, the question I have though, Merrick, is are they done? Are they done for this year with an eye towards next year? Because here's the thing about the Rangers, right? Like they've got a lot of effing work to do okay their back end if they trade country Miller and don't get a defenseman commiserate back for him is atrocious they have nobody to play with Fox if they trade Miller so I think I
Starting point is 00:44:18 think this is a multi-year multi-step process to get this team where it wants to go. And so when we see things like the Criders cap space open up, I'm not convinced it's in service of doing some, it's not in service necessarily of signing Nick Ehlers, let's say. Yeah. The problem is, and you see this with all the big markets, sometime the right thing to do is not spend all of your money.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Yeah. Because you're just, but the pressures of being New York, Toronto, those are the two biggies, and not using all of your cap space, your fans turn around, look at their ticket price, and also say like, what are we, the Buffalo Sabres? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:02 10 million under every year? Well, the unspoken- But sometimes it's the right thing to do. The unspoken part about this, and I'll speak it, as of right now, we don't know if the Rangers have to keep their powder dry for a max contract in two summers. Jack Eichel?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Or C. McD? C. McD. But no, but Eichel- But that can't be a plan. Yes it can. How do you- you can't put yourself in a financial bind if Connor McDavid's potentially available. You gotta be ready for it.
Starting point is 00:45:31 But that's the key. Potentially. Yeah. So you're gonna scotch this season based on McDavid and Eichel might be available in a year. I'm saying you scotch the season because I don't think they're gonna be all that good. Give the kids a chance to play,
Starting point is 00:45:44 start to incrementally turn the ship towards where you want to go. If they go all in and do a bunch of dumbass contracts with this kind of space, it's not the summer to do that. That's a good point. It's not the summer to do that. In search of something that's not there, like that's not, that's malfeasance. They got to be patient with this and the patience is knowing that two of the biggest star centers, including the best one we've had since Mario, could be available next summer. You got to be prepared for that.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And I think that's part of their math. What's the reaction if the Rangers don't spend to the cap? What's the reaction in New York? It depends on what they tell Larry. What they tell Larry to say about their mindset and the other ambassadors that they have in the New York media. Like if they communicate their plan well enough,
Starting point is 00:46:31 Ranger fans will buy into it. You can't rebuild the New York, but you can send a letter to your season ticket holders. They rebuild, they send a letter, they said they were rebuilding. That's what I'm saying, that wasn't a rebuild though. So that's what I'm saying. You can't tear it all down if you're the Rangers, ever.
Starting point is 00:46:45 You just can't. And James Dolan will never let them do that. But you can communicate to your customer base, look, we know we want to try hard, we're trying to win a cup, we're gonna step back for a little bit, and then next year take a giant leap forward. You can sell that to them.
Starting point is 00:47:14 A couple of more things here before we get to game four. Anjay Kopitar and the Lady Bing trophy. Yeah. I've thought one of your better points has always been that the officials should vote on this. Absolutely. points has always been that the officials should vote on absolutely that with all due respect to the professional hockey writers of which you are a very proud and card-carrying member you should not vote it should be the officials that should be stripped from you yeah because you lost your car give it up what's that we'll just give it up like I the professional hockey writers Association has turned the lady Bing voting into who has
Starting point is 00:47:46 the most points and the fewest penalty minutes. We don't know how to assess gentlemanly play on the ice. We know who is nice to us in the locker room after the game, but we sure as shit don't know who is nice on the ice. The only people that do are the players who simply can't be bothered with having to vote on awards Because they'll just vote for their buddies or the on ice officials who should vote for something that assesses gentlemanly play on the ice I completely if I were P.h.w.a president which I won't be I would give up the lady being voting immediately because we are You can you do that? I would give up the Lady Bing voting immediately because we are uniquely unqualified.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And on top of that, we're also unqualified because we're not gentlemen. We don't know the meaning of the word. We're a bunch of slovenly profane drunks that do this job, are blessed to do this job. But we are unqualified to say who is gentlemanly in any sense of the word. Could you, okay, let's say you're the head of the professional hockey writers. Yes. Could you go to the NHL and say, effective immediately, we are not voting on this award? No, because-
Starting point is 00:48:53 What's the process of that? We would have to, if in my mind's eye, we would go to the NHL and say, hey, can you set up a meeting with Steve Walcom, we want to talk about the potential of the officials taking over the Lady Bane and maybe they do and maybe they don't I mean that might my concern in doing this the right way which is having them vote is that those guys want to be agnostic those guys don't they never talk to us we never get an interview with them they don't want any any indications of bias to be on the record and inherently if they're saying Anjay, Copa tar nicest guy on the ice and then he doesn't like get a call
Starting point is 00:49:34 The next game or whatever that's gonna say what's it? What's it down? I'm thinking downside. What does Stephen? Walkum say to you and you say We think you guys should vote on he. He probably says no but again that to me that's the downside it's like if they give the lady being to Anze Kovatar, game one next year LA Kings Vegas Golden Knights, Anze Kovatar gives a two-hander to Jack Eichel over the wrists and doesn't get called for it. Jack Eichel's like oh no shit they all think he's nice like he's of course not getting not getting a call. I mean, I think that's probably the danger. That's an interesting one. Okay, so was there a Roman Yosi on the Lady Bing this year?
Starting point is 00:50:12 Let's just go over who he saw. I was despondent about no Roman Yosi. I know, you're very upset about it. I don't think I saw Roman Yosi on this list. I'll give you the top five real quick. The NHL is now the land that forgot about Roman Yosi. Roman has crumbled. Roman has crumbled. The last days of the Roman Empire. Andrzej Kopitar, Braden Point, Jack Michael, Jacob Slave, and Nick Suzuki are your top five.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I didn't have Suzuki in there. I had Makar who finished sixth. And by the way, Mark-Andre Andre Fleury 16 first place votes finished seventh I like that I thought that this would have been a great send-off for Mark Andre Fleury given the most gentlemanly player of the year I thought it was awesome and it would have been it would have been now you and I were going through the list before to find out what the funniest vote was I think think it might be Lowry. And we both landed on Adam Lowry of the nearly 30 penalty minutes. And I would say
Starting point is 00:51:10 game that does not translate to the word gentlemanly. I don't know. I've seen some scrums. I can't read lips, but I got a pretty good idea. I know he's not saying gentlemanly things. Oh, me and the waifu. How dare you, sir. I went to barbecue this weekend. You know know we all tried very hard in this play but I believe that you may have been in the
Starting point is 00:51:27 wrong so this award and the selkie have always been interesting I've always been interesting for me yeah because again for this one no no clue you're right like low PIMS I guess you're a good guy. Who knows, right? But who knows if like, I remember talking to Paul Stewart once about Chris Gratton, and he's like, oh yeah, he's just spit on my skates at the draw. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:51:55 Oh yeah. I had one coach tell me, when I put forward that if you are a defenseman who doesn't have a lot of penalty minutes, that means that you're playing right, and then he said no, it means you're playing wrong. No, it's the opposite. Although, the presence of Jacob Slaven. I know, Slaven's the exception to a lot of penalty minutes that mean that you're playing right. And he said, no, it's no, it's the opposite. Although the presence of Jacob Slavin, I know, I Slavin's really accepting a lot of rules.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But yeah, I didn't go to tell me, no, that tells me that you're playing wrong. But something's a weird one because I've always I always fought with it. Are you voting for the best two way player? Are you voting for the best defensive forward? Here here's well, we're all defend the professional hockey writers Association when I first started voting for awards when I was at Yahoo, I Don't think they knew how to vote for the selkie. I think it was very much most points best face-off percentage Put them together you got Your self you want to take away
Starting point is 00:52:42 I think I think the voters have become a lot more educated about what good defense actually looks like. I think the emergence of sites like Natural Statric and Evolving Hockey have given us a lot of information on how to better evaluate defensive play by forwards. And I think that, for the most part, even if it's still a little reputation-y for my liking, I think that the voters get the selkie right.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Should offense factor in whatsoever when you're arguing for a defensive... And is the logic behind that, that the best way to defend is to not have the puck in your own zone? Yes. If you have a ton of five on five points That tells me that I mean, it's not all in it may be some of its in transition which speaks to how good you are Defensively. Yeah, I think I think we've seen that with with the Panthers in this series where you know as the coaches were saying early in The series it's actually been a pretty good defensive series outside of game three Yeah, because like a lot of the offense they were creating was come, like if you get three breakaways in game two for the Panthers, that's transition.
Starting point is 00:53:48 That's good defense leading offense. Yeah. So I do think that the points part of it can be part of the argument for best defensive forward because it shows you A, you're not in your own zone, and B, a lot of that offense does come from transition. And so it should be the default setting, but it should definitely factor into it.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Okay, a couple of things here. JT Miller in the chat, if that is indeed you, JT. What? Jeff needs more stickers on his laptop. Are you like me? If your daughter puts anything on, anything that you own, you can't take it off? I have a salt shaker and a cucumber.
Starting point is 00:54:21 She get, my oldest daughter daughter when she was a little kid gave me an action figure. I don't know what line it's from. It was somewhere randomly in my parents' house. And she gave it to me to take on the road. And it's been in my suitcase for about 13 years. I don't know where it came from, but here it is. And yeah, when your kid gives you something,
Starting point is 00:54:43 you gotta keep it. Now, my laptop I don't have out, but I my my sticker covering up the Apple logo is is the David Bowie Aladdin saying oh no way yeah, I love that up. That's dope Anything else on awards well there tonight. Yeah, I know but I mean heart Um I don't like who do you think it wins the heart you think it's hella buck I'll note that the Vezina and the heart are both being given away on this program tonight Yeah, which might be a little winky winky. Here's what the other is gonna deal for me. It would be both He would get both. I think I voted him for the heart. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case again
Starting point is 00:55:18 this is what makes it so difficult though because like you didn't have the strongest postseason but Should should matter they were as good as they were. Should matter. Yeah. Should matter. OK, really quickly here, we got a game for it tonight. So that means we have some particularly salient points,
Starting point is 00:55:36 I am sure. It's too bad. I really enjoyed the two days off between games. A lot of writers with some upper body injuries walking around today at practice. Yeah, the throat's a little scratchy today. A lot of Raiders with some upper body injuries Today at practice a little scratchy today The sheet is powered by fan duel home of the same game parlay make every moment more on fan duel fan duel
Starting point is 00:55:59 Proud to connect fans to the major sports moments that matter to them Zack in master control This condo what do you have for us today kept it simple here today boys just went with the odds for tonight's game uh and this one i wanted to note the last game game three the Florida Panthers were favored at minus 142 today when we made the graphic, when I made the graphic that is, so this could entirely be on me, is at minus 152 for the Panthers. So they have grown more in favor to win this game here tonight. Heads in favor, so I had a tonight's game.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Zach, that'd be the Stuart Skinner effect, I believe. Stuart Skinner's announcing starting goaltender. Oh, everyone a fan duel. Emergency, emergency! I would agree with that, yes. I'm on the path or the Panthers tonight I I think that they they've really they really D up Connor and Leon well here in Sunrise and I think that look it's it's a normie take
Starting point is 00:56:57 because basically everybody kind of believes the same thing right now but like they win four Oilers win five Panthers wrap it up in six is kind of for those of us who believe flart is gonna win the series It's kind of how we see it playing out. I think what say you? Well, you know what the thing about this series I think I said this to you before like this is like my heart says one thing in my heart I'm sorry my heart feels one thing in my head says another my head says four to Panthers and my heart says Edmonton Well, yeah, and I feel that way about every single game I really want Edmonton to do this and I really want Connor McDavid to want to stand again
Starting point is 00:57:31 there's so many things trending away from them right now the depth that they had has turned into a pumpkin against this Panthers team which truly has depth yeah I think Bob is playing well again the one thing I'll say about game four, and by the time you listen to this, maybe it's come to fruition or not, like there is something to be said for Mr. Game Four. Skinner is 6-0. Two shutouts, GAA under two. And the one thing that Chris Noblock said that is absolutely true, and I don't know why it is, but you can look back over his history and see it, he gets better as series get later.
Starting point is 00:58:10 It's just how he plays. So, I mean, the pivot point for last year's final was game four. They beat Florida eight to one. But the key point in that score is one. If he plays well, they win. If he doesn't, it's three-1 going back to Edmonton. Alright, one thing I want to let you know as well, we're gonna start doing this
Starting point is 00:58:31 and eventually I'm gonna start probably when we get back from Florida hopping into it. Let us know in the comments here on YouTube after the program today once the show goes off the air on our daily face-off YouTube channel. If tonight's game is quote-unquote must win for the Oilers. Leave your comment in the comment section. Also the sheet tomorrow coming to you from as we mentioned earlier the CHL awards. Wow. And note the one o'clock start time which is gonna be tricky for your boy Jeffy. When are you flying from Florida to Canada? So I leave tomorrow morning, my flight leaves at 5.30.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Oh my God. So I got a 5.30 flight to Atlanta, and then I'm getting in to Kanukastan at 10, I think it's 10.45. Wow. And then on the air at one, because traffic's easy in Toronto. You know, I know some guys here in South Florida Wow. And then on the air at one. Because traffic's easy in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:59:26 You know, I know some guys here in South Florida that could probably get you through the night. We shall see. CHL awards for us tomorrow. But it's been a lot of fun. We did four days of VSW together. That was really, I had so much fun. Thanks for everybody who checked out the live stream But also all the people I got deluged by people nice on social media
Starting point is 00:59:51 Saying that they listen to the pod and it got weepy and nostalgic about me you and me and you and they're in their ears Again, the og pod the og hockey pod. Yeah, the og pocky pod With apologies to fuck fuck podcasts. Sorry puckers. They're still going to aren't they? Still going I think there is the best man and like thanks to the Panthers for letting us chill in there their practice rank Chill is right whoo. I know and It was a ton of fun everybody the chat. Thank you once again for being so At times sweet and at times belligerent to me. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But on the whole pretty sweet, I'd say. CMC like the good old days, Bill Beck, this has been a blast, our boy Singzy, great show boys. Thanks, crew. You guys are the best. Thank you so much for tuning into the program, whether you're watching live
Starting point is 01:00:44 on our daily face-off YouTube channel. Do all the subscribe, all the like, all those fun things that people like us would like you to do or listening on your favorite podcast platform we appreciate it. Enjoy game for tonight. We will join you tomorrow in Toronto if your boy gets there one o'clock. What's the fan, what does FanDuel, what does FanDuel have on that one Zach? I got a I got a 5 and boy gets there one o'clock. What's the fan? What is fan dual? What does fan dual have on that one, Zach? I got a, I got a five and change flight at night from here to Toronto. Yeah. And then onto Edmonton where I will roll in at around like one 30 or two in the morning, which is exactly where you want to be in downtown Edmonton. Oh boy. Two o'clock in the morning. Oh
Starting point is 01:01:21 boy. What a dream that'll be. And your suitcase. I better drive to my hotel in the Pope Mobile. Alright, thanks crew. Program returns tomorrow. Wish is back on next week. Enjoy the game. This week, every day, this month I can't get out my head Lost all ambitions day to day Guess I can call it a rut I went to the dark man He tried to give me a little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine
Starting point is 01:01:59 I'm not against those methods but no It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixing my mind I do wanna break it I turned on the music I do wanna break it I turned on the music It's enough, help, I don't get you sometimes losing Helping on the days that went wrong You

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