The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Getting Wild ft. DJ Bean & Erin Ambrose

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

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get the most drama and you get lead changes and you get amazing games you get surprises You get twists and turns you get Karilla Capri's off Making incredible passes to Matt Boldy Again, I'm telling you I know it was late last night. I get it in the East. That's an 11 o'clock start. I get it Minnesota Vegas make the best games They really do. The Toronto Maple Leafs and the Ottawa Senators go into over dog. Max Domi scores as father Ty is in the stands sitting in his seats.

This buddy's all high fiving him. Overtime winner. The biggest goal he's maybe scored in his career for Max Domi? Hasn't been the best of all possible seasons offensively for Max. Biggest goal he's scored OT winner, but I don't think anyone thinks for one second that that series is done. Maybe, Zach, we'll get your thoughts on this, maybe the only series that we look at and say, yeah you know what this thing is probably already over and may have already been over in game one.

It's Carolina and New Jersey. Yeah. Might be the only one that might be. I know you were busy last night. I know you had your festivities at Greta bar last night. I'm sure the crowd was rocking. Uh, I hope that neither you nor Vic, uh, were over-served last night, but if you were, you probably deserved it considering it was an OT thriller for your Toronto Maple Leafs.

Minnesota ties it up against the Vegas Golden Knights and the Florida Panthers, as we like to say, reminded everybody. Can I tell a quick story about the word reminded? Yes, please do. I have permission? Yes. Marty McSorley told me this story when I used to work with Marty. And he said when he first joined the Oilers, he was there with Dave Semenko. Dave Semenko was like the king of the jungle.

One of the toughest ever to do it and nobody messed with Dave. And Dave had like this deep voice and he was very quiet and was very reserved and Marty was just like young gunslinger wanted to fight every night and so he gets there and some ankles like nope we're not gonna do it tonight Marty nope we're not gonna do it tonight a couple games go by nope we're not gonna do it tonight and then Marty says one day he walked into the Oilers dressing room and he saw Dave taping up his wrists and Marty said to him, said, Dave, what are you doing? He goes, Marty, every now and then we must remind them.

And tonight we will remind them. You have to have known Dave Semenko. It is such as Dave Semenko line. Tonight we will remind them. You have to have known Dave Semenko. It is such a Dave Semenko line. Tonight we will remind them. The Florida Panthers last night reminded everybody just how good they are. I know down the stretch Tampa was the new hotness. Oh look at this they're doing it again. All of a sudden the Florida Panthers are firing balloons past the net minder, Andre Vasilevsky, who last time I checked is probably going to the Hockey Hall of Fame. Can you chuck two goals, one assist?

Was it annoyance all night? A botched goalie interference call by John Cooper, who himself said, I own it, I own it. That was a pretty impressive game last night by Florida. That was the Florida Panthers reminding everybody who they are defending Stanley Cup champions. Count them out. Count them out if you wish. A wise person won't sleep on them. Anyway, your thoughts on last night? Yeah, I caught Carolina, New Jersey a lot of the beginning of that one. My attention then directed to Toronto, Ottawa.

Mm-hmm. And then I got the end slash mid to end of Minnesota, Vegas. So that was kind of how my night broke down. The one that I like, look, as a Leafs fan, I would like to say and be able to say that this thing is over. I think last night is a, regardless of how the Leafs fan. I would like to say and be able to say that this thing is over I think last night is a regardless of how the Leafs played I think is a positive sign for Leafs fans to be or The Leafs in that room to be like hey, we didn't play our best game We walked away with the win. We're up to nothing in this series. Yada. Yada. Yada

I think all of us know Especially who they are. It's never over until it's over given especially who they are. It's never over until it's over. That Carolina New Jersey one, look, I'm sorry, New Jersey, but that one feels over. It felt over before it started. Last night was probably the best outfit that they had. How about Brent Burns headbutting Timo Meyer?

We had stuff last night, man. So I saw the headline of it, cause I missed it live, and I saw the headline and the social media going around, and it was like head butted. Okay. Do you think he like head butted, head butted him? No, this isn't, no hang on. First of all- I think he put his head forward. I don't think he head butted him. He put his head forward probably trying to push him back.

But it's a head butt. Here's the thing, head buts used to exist in the NHL regularly and you know what also used to exist in the NHL? Hair pulling before they put helmets on everybody. If you go back and you look at fights in the 70s, Gary Howitt, there's a actually there's a hilarious, oh my god, there's a hilarious, like I mean hilarious clip of Dave Schultz, the Hammer Schultz from the Philadelphia Flyers and who used to go at it with everybody on the Islanders and one day he shows up to a game before before the game facing off against the Islanders and all of a sudden his long hair is all cut off and he tells a reporter outside Nassau Coliseum, I have my Gary Howitt haircut now he can't pull my hair when we fight anymore.

This used to be NHL, everybody. My Gary Howitt haircut has just chopped it up. Anyway, but headbutting, like in fights, that used to be a thing too. Headbutting, hair pulling, eye gouging, all of it. The 70s, half the league should have been in prison. Anyhow, I don't know that he headbutted him in our traditional sense.

I think it was more, he put his head down and wanted to push Timo Meyer, but his head hit Timo Meyer's head. We just don't see it anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I just saw it and I was like, oh, head-butting. Like, what did Brent Burns do? And then I watched it and I was like, ah, come on. I know. That's not head-butting. He went head-to-head, but he didn't head-butt him, I don't think. Not in the traditional sense, but kudos to Timo Meyer there Jeff did his best Ridley Gregg impression, the head snap back and all that. I'm gonna get my licks in where I can. I'm gonna get my licks in where I can. Come on.

Do you have I ever told you my theory about snapping heads back? No. Think about this for one second. I know when we see it we all go like, oh, stick didn't even touch him, didn't even come close to him, look at him snapping the head back off, turn this into soccer. Think about yourself for a second. You're walking down the street and all of a sudden like something appears right in front of your face. What's your instinct? Yeah, yeah, you're gonna move your head, you're gonna react.

It's not exclusive to hockey, folks. Like just think about it in your own life. All of a sudden something's in your face, you're like whoa. And yeah, nothing's touched yet, but the same thing happens in hockey. But we look at it and we mock it. Meanwhile, if the same thing happened to us,

like walking through our kitchen and one of our kids threw a ball at us, we would do the exact same thing. Now I'm catching it. Anthony Stolarz was good, eh? Last night. I know we're bouncing all over here stole ours was awesome Yeah, and you know I listened to Colby and talk about it after game one, and I think he was right

He took a lot of heat for it. I don't really know why I like if we've since watched that game one I mean he was Rebound control was tough making saves, but right, the rebounds weren't there. Last night, he was dialed in like I thought he was making great say yeah, I thought he was all over it. That second third period for the Maple Leafs like they were not dialed in there. You know, you only gave up that one shot in the third period. And it ends up being the tying goal. Like that's the first shot that you gave up in that third period, but he was locked in last night, Jeff. That's not something they've traditionally got in the playoffs, is just that above and beyond goal tending. A lot of times you can get average, but not that above and beyond.

General Soreness, by the way, bless you for knowing this one. Dave the Hammer Schultz pulled Dale Rolfe's hair in the playoff. Dale Rolfe's a fenceman for the New York Rangers, then punched him about 75 times. Yes, I remember that one. You can find that one on YouTube. That is a... that was a nasty fight and maybe one of the worst parts about it was the referee did not allow the linesman to get in to break it up as Dale Rolfe was absorbing the beating of a lifetime. Simon Benoit all of a sudden is a household name and but I don't even I don't even think was just because of the rush and the screen like his rush all of a sudden that lane opens and it's like oh my god Benoit skating with the puck down the right side there's no one near him

this is awesome drop pass which was great to Max Domi. And then as perfect a screen cascading by Lena Solmark, as you can make Drake Batherson on the fly by, I want to think about stopping on that puck, it happens. I know Batherson right away, as soon as Domi scores, he feels like, oh, I got the goat horns on. But at the same time, I hate being right about something. You ever have something in your life that you really hate being right about? I hate being right about something. You ever have something in your life that you really hate being right about?

I hate being right about this. What is this one? Lena Salmark. Ah. What have I said all season long? I want him to be really good and shake off this reputation of not being there for big pressure moments. So far?

He can do that next year, Jeff. I don't care. Wait another couple games, buddy. That's where I'm at. Top 10 skill. I don't think the last thing was that bad though. I don't think the last thing was that bad. If Sens fans are blaming Alina Solmark for last night, if that's how they're going to shake that down, I think they're looking for the wrong spot. Three goals on 21 shots.

Three goals on 21 shots. I know, but... I know, but... The one goal is Max Domi shooting through three guys. It's Shabat, it was, forgive me, I'm forgetting the other defender, but it's Benoit there as well as the second layer. And then whoever it was that was the other

defenseman for Ottawa. It was three guys lined up directly in front of him. That's hard to fight through. He could get there. But the game one was the one that I looked at and was like, tough night for all Mark there. Last night, not necessarily the one that I looked at and was like, tough night for all marked there. Last night, not necessarily the one that I would have put so much blame on him for.

Listen, you can always explain away goals, right? There's a great, oh geez, Doug McLean used to tell me the story when he was in Columbus and Rick Walmsley was his goalie coach. And they would go and then they would do video with their goaltenders. And they would go and then they would do video with their goaltenders. And they would run through goal after goal after goal and Wamsley would say, oh, that was tipped.

Oh, that was tipped. Oh, that was tipped. Oh, that one was a tip. That one was a deflection. And Doug after a while he told me, he goes, I finally just lost. And I said, Wammer, does every effing deflection have to go in?

Does every tip have to, does every tip have to go in? Like is that like the blanket, like all of a sudden you get like complete clemency just because it was tipped. Like can he stop one? Does every tip have to go in? That's my only thing about Allmark. He can explain away all the goals. Bad coverage, point blank shots, screen, this.

Like there's always reasons why goals are going in. Geez, it's a tough one. It's tough, man. It's tough. All right. Time now for Daily Outlines, presented by FanDuel North America's number one sportsbook app provider. We love them. Here's what we got coming up on the program today. We got a couple of really special guests. We got some off-ice news as well. Our special guest DJ Bean who is standing by, Aaron Ambrose from Team Canada, and the Montreal Victoire shall stop by.

It is expansion day in the PWHL, by the way, Vancouver. The first expansion market expects Seattle soon. We had an interesting press conference from the Bruins. We'll probably start there with Bean, Edmonton and the Los Angeles Kings, and we'll talk more about the playoffs as well. And with that, let us bring aboard the man of the beginning of the program. You love him from What's Chaos and you're gonna love him here now as well. We'll bring him

aboard. There he is smiling with the beautiful hat on. That's a great lid. By the way, who does all the graphics for you guys and what's chaos? Because it's fantastic. Oh amazing. The graphics is a guy, like all of the logos and everything were made by a guy called Blaze. Basically what I did was I walked around my apartment and I looked at like you see concert posters behind me. Yeah. And I found ones that I liked, looked up who did them, and then just reached out to all the people who made cool art. And that's how I found like various people.

And yeah, got a guy blazed to make this, which is amazing. The hats and the merch is Dishon, if you know of them out of Buffalo, they're a hockey like lifestyle company and they make the coolest stuff. They collab with a lot of players and yeah, yeah, we, since we don't sound good and we don't individually look good,

we make sure that our stuff looks good. That's right. If you're not gonna bring anything to the table, at least polish it up real nice. That's always been, that's always been my motto for my career. It's got me as far as this program. Let me jump in before we get to the playoffs from last night.

Did you catch much of the Bruins presser today? Neely, Jacobs, Sweeney? And if so, did anything really jump out at you? I mean, we had Jacobs defending, raising ticket prices. We had Cam Neely opining about things like the 2015 draft and then you always wonder like what's going through Sweeney's head when Neely's there sitting there saying things like, yeah, maybe we will, maybe we won't extend on, we haven't made our decision yet. Anything jump out at you from that presser today? Yeah. So in a past life, I was a Bruins beat writer.

So I, that day, the breakup, the post breakup day, uh, press conference with leadership was like the super bowl because you'd get the breakup day, the normal day where the players and a coach would give their stuff. And then the week later it was really the, okay, now let's bring in the big dogs and famously only one team wins a year, so chances are we're going to be discussing why did it go wrong? And Cam Neely has never had an appetite for that, doesn't like having that conversation, clearly has been combative a few times in those.

So my initial takeaway as I'm watching it is him being so combative about the drafting and as my partner Pete Blackburn pointed out, when he asked Kevin Paul DuPont to elaborate on what he meant about the drafting and developing, that's the first time anybody has needed to explain anything about the drafting and developing of the Bruins being bad. So that's initially what I honed in on because that had the most fireworks. But ultimately, what I left with was the hierarchy and the structure as it currently sits because we knew that heads weren't going to roll for this season. Even if we disagreed with it, we knew that that's the way it was going to be. But as stuff was hitting the fan this

season, the question was, will Sweeney stick around? But also, will Neely stick around? Will this leadership as we know it and as has existed since, I mean, Neely goes back to 2010 when he took over as the president. Neely's been GM since 2015. Will this be shaken up? And so much of the tone coming from this press conference was this United Front from Jacobs and Neely saying, for now we still trust Don. And I like Cam Neely, but I kind of look at that and I'm like, shouldn't this be Jacobs saying I still trust Cam and Don? Because I would think that the, and I don't, not to be graphic, but like there should be multiple necks

in the guillotine here, no? I go back and forth on that because the Boston Bruins have enjoyed, like this is Virgin territory here, right? Like we haven't seen this from the Boston Bruins. I don't know that we're asking guys to walk up 15 stairs here and put their heads in a noose for the first time that they have a season where they don't qualify for the playoffs. You know what I mean? Like I know it hasn't been Stanley Cup after Stanley Cup, but you know there

was a Stanley Cup and there were some Stanley Cup final appearances and the team has always been competitive. Now all of the sudden we're in a situation where now the Boston Bruins are on the outside looking in, but it's not as if this has been like three or four years of squalor or five or six years or Detroit or Buffalo. This is one year of not making the playoffs and all of a sudden we're asking players to walk up a flight of asking managers to walk up a flight of stairs. I don't know about that. So I agree with that sentiment,

but I do always go back to the fact that Don Sweeney has led a very charmed life as Bruins general manager. It was shocking to me that Cam Neely said, well, you got to remember, this guy was hired right before the draft, so then all of a sudden he had to make draft picks. What was his last job? He was assistant general manager for a number of years

So he should have known that draft but when I say a charmed life I mean that he inherited Bergeron Kraychi Chara Rask Oh, I mean Chara kind of aging out of his prime But a lot of those guys in their prime Brad Marshawn in his prime the team had selected David Posternak the year before so this was a team in very good position. And the question with Sweeney wasn't, can you get these guys back to the playoffs after everybody? And I do mean pretty much everybody on that 2014-15 team had like shockingly low shooting percentages and just really everything that could go wrong in that season did go wrong.

And the question wasn't, can you get them back to the postseason, which it actually took them two years to do, which was kind of confusing. It was, will you get more cups out of this group? Because the team was unsatisfied with only getting one cup out of that regime to that point. So they say, okay, we'll make a change now that we've made the playoffs.

And they got there one more time, but I'll look at 2019 as one of the great failures by a team that lost in the Stanley Cup final because the path was laid out for them and the blues for all the I love their center depth and I love their top four defensemen. But boy, oh boy, was that a pretty not great team to win a Stanley Cup. So I look at that as more a failure on the Bruins. So I do not think of it as though Sweeney has been killing it on all this time.

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and those three picks in a row. What order was it? Was it Sedition first? They had 14 and then they traded for... Was it Sedition, Zaboral, and then Debrusque? It went Zaboral at 13, Debrusque at 14, and then Sedition at 15. And that was the one that, I mean, if you know that,

is it McMahon, the meme where he's just like increasingly making kind of crazy faces? Yes, yeah. Zaboral was chalk, but he was considered the best person in like the second tier of defensemen. You remember the defensemen in that draft were awesome. There was Hanifin, there was Wawrinski, there was a Provarov, a lot of really good defensemen.

Provarov, yeah. And then, so Senishchen, you're like, okay, fine, you needed a defenseman, you just traded Dougie Hamilton. Debrusk, well, that's a little high for Debrusk, but maybe they know something we don't. Goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals. He shot the lights out in Swift current.

And for Senechen, they wanted speed. And like, that's what they got. Like, they wanted the dimension of speed, and so they got it. But there's a couple of other, like, key draft moments for the Boston Bruins for me That I will that I always point out and say you know what they they got it. They got it right at the table So there was the year that they took Pasternak and the big the big debate there From pretty much anyone who was in in that sort of vicinity to draft these players

The big debate was who's going to be better. David Pasternak or Jacob Verrana. And then the other one was the Charlie McAvoy draft where they took McAvoy and, and, and, and I don't know how, I don't know if they were split like 50 50, but the other guy that a lot of people in that, in that room wanted, and eventually obviously McAvoy won out that, that

debate, um, was Dante Fabvoy won out that that debate was Dante Fabro. Yeah, yeah. And it was Dante Fabro and they went like there's no way we're not taking McAvoy. They went to BU. That was the one that won out. Yeah. They went to BU and were like we're thinking McAvoy but which one is our guy here and BU

kind of gave them the you're probably thinking the right way and no disrespect to Dante Fabro. But yeah, that was a good decision in that group's second year. Posternak was, I mean, I'm a Shirelli Bobo, so I say that that was Shirelli's last year, but that was also more kind of Gretzky before he departed. But yes, they made the right call there. And you remember the risk they took with Pternach because they'd gotten themselves into such a cap bind that they had to essentially give away Johnny Boychuk. They couldn't re-sign Jerome McGinley after he scored 30 goals for them.

And they're like, you know what? Let's, I think we have to replace him with the broken kid from Czech and just see if that works. And he's falling down in training camp. But I mean, the kid could play and a grand slam. The issue is though, six picks in the first two rounds in 2015, it wasn't just the three in a row and that they'd gone off the board and that they missed. Like, Jacob Forsbacke Carlson, I apologize.

They kind of pressured to leave school a little early and that may have derailed his career a bit because they just needed to show that like, hey, they're doing this. So missteps, certainly, but you can be bad at drafting if you're good at other things. And I think the thing that this team has been good at is getting players to stay. Brad Marshawn, and this is going back a number of years now, eight, resigned on a team-friendly deal. Okay, was that Brad Marshawn losing a negotiation, or is that Brad Marshawn saying, I love it here, my family's here, this is the guy, I wanna stick around here. A lot of the great signings that they made,

the team-friendly ones, those also happened in the previous regime. Patrice Bergeron, David Creechie, those guys did the same thing. So, Boston, I think, made those signings more so than shrewd negotiating. Too simplistic, I know, made those signings more so than Shrewd negotiating. Too simplistic, I know, but I just don't think it's a team that's gotten over Bergeron and Krejci, calling it a career. No.

You don't get over that. You don't. No. Bergeron's one of the best to ever do it. Krejci, one of the more underrated players in the history of the game. I always, you know, was he a slow skater? Yeah. One of the most creative guys. Like I always look at David Krejachi and say like, you know, there's the bullet and that's the game. And then there's that vacuum right behind the bullet. And no one played in that vacuum behind the bullet better than David Criachi.

Like maybe in this entire generation, that was David Criachi's game right there. And sure, they had the dead cat bounce afterwards and had the great season. But long term, like you don't recover from that. Yeah, the worst and best, the best and worst things that ever happened to David Kraitu is he was on the same team as Patrice Bergeron, because if Patrice Bergeron wasn't there, Boston fans would have had the appetite to revere him the way that they do Patrice Bergeron in that, oh yeah, our guy can score a bunch of goals and our guy can make a bunch of plays, but you know what? It's his two-way game that will really get you. This guy could do a lot more offensively if he wanted to,

but he cares about winning. The problem is the guy playing on the line ahead of him, and the only reason he wasn't a first-line center throughout his career was that they had a perfect version of that, and Bergeron was a perfect player. David Craici was, while like an elite, elite, elite player, a perfect player in terms of what's his weakness. He's slow. Yeah, cool. Patrice Bergeron is slow too. You can be slow if, as you said, you're so cerebral and you think

it's so well. If you take advantage of kind of slowing the game down because you're slow to begin with. That's the great players do though. Like they stay completely slow the game down because you're slow to begin with. That's the great players do though. Like they completely slow the game down. And we saw it this year with Adam Fantilly, not that I'm comparing Bergeron to Fantilly, but like Fantilly for the longest time when he started to finally do this, he had one speed and it was all like,

everything's super fast, super fast, super fast. And it wasn't until like Evison got to him and is finally using his speed, distributing the puck, not challenging, not using his speed in every single situation, all of a sudden you become a much more dynamic player. Let me get to the thoughts on playoffs here. I'm spending so much on the Boston Bruins,

but man, when you have a presser like that, you gotta dig in. So Karel Kaprizov for me has been the most impressive player so far a couple of games in. Same for you or do you have another one to offer up? No, it's got to be Kirill Kaprizov. I mean that I'm a dry sidle honk. So I had to make sure today on the show to say to use that is the second best pass that has been made all trailing only that one word dry sidles spun around behind his own goal line and sprung. Zach Hyman backhanded on a breakaway. But really, like, Kirill Kaprizov's, the saucer pass last night was unbelievable, but you

watch him and you watch The Wild, and you know what? God bless The Wild making this a series. I still don't know if it's going to be, but every word that you've heard about Kirill Kaprizov the last couple of years, which is, if you're not watching The Wild, you don't know enough about Kirill Kaprizov and you don't see the impact this guy has. And yes, they're eventually going to surround him with a lot of good players once that dead money comes off the books. And maybe that begins to happen this summer.

He is unbelievable. And yeah, he puts The Wild in a position where it's like as Kirill Kaprizov goes, the wild go, but look at how he's going. They're 1-1 with the Golden Knights, a Golden Knights team that I think has been so under discussed with how they can run over everybody. Now it's a 1-1 series in large part due to Kaprizov. The thing that I like about him, I like this about every now and then you get a sort of glimpse, because you know what that pass was? It was a beer league pass.

You do that in beer league because there's some guys who just have more skill than everybody else. It's like, watch this. Like there'll be like that one guy that comes out and plays with you, who played division one, you know, and like you're a bunch of scrubs and like C division and all of a sudden you like making these ridiculous plays. I looked at Kaprizov making that play and I'm like, that's the ringer at Beer League. Like you can do that, someone be able to, if you're able to do that in the NHL, like kind of like saying like, you know what,

here, watch this Beer League play. And I know I'm sort of minimizing it, but still like he made it look like the NHL is my Beer League. Watch me do this. And it was flawless and it was perfect and it was simple. And boldies off to the races. You're right about Minnesota, man. Like this is the year where it's like,

eh, whatever happens happens next year. When we have all of our cap space, next year when we can bring in players, that's when you're gonna see the Minnesota one. That's when they get out of jail, salary cap jail, that's when they're gonna do something. Minnesota one. That's when they get out of jail, salary cab jail. That's when they're going to do something. What did you make of the Florida Panthers last night? I was saying like, that was the Florida Panthers

reminding everybody. Let's just remind everybody, you know? Yeah, there were three teams going into this post season, Jeff, where I thought, you know what? We talk and we figure out what could happen and we try to guess and what might surprise us. And maybe sometimes we're given an extra day or two before the playoffs begin because we just come up with too many ideas and come up with too many theories.

There were three teams that I thought have the chance to make us all look stupid for wondering what might happen with them. One of them was the Washington Capitals because they were screwing around so much to the point where they seemed unaware that they were losing games late in the season. They're just having so much fun. So I worried is their head totally in the game. One of them is the Oilers because we just hadn't seen what they would look like and they always start off horribly in the postseason.

But maybe they just come out and they roll. And the last one is the Florida Panthers. They have a little bit of the Oilers thing where you haven't totally seen what they're going to be, but you sort of have. It's just they've been, like Matthew Kachuck hasn't been there for a little while and Aaron Echblad's been suspended. Always looming, and I love the lightning, was this idea that they were going to come out and be like, at what point over the last two years have we given you any reason to question us? So good on them. I thought that it was fascinating that John Cooper challenged that Schmit goal in the

second period. I wonder if it's because officiating has been so wonky and because Florida in a 3-1 game maybe is already sowing it up, that Cooper's throwing that Hail Mary saying, you know what, if I lose this challenge, we probably lose the game. But there have been enough bad calls this postseason that maybe they'll break one off for me. I thought that that was maybe a commentary on the officiating, but also maybe a commentary that in game one, John Cooper's like, man, we might need any bounce we can get.

You know what's interesting about that? This is the one year that I think they've got the goalie interference call almost right every single time. Like I think goalie interference has been called more correctly than like high sticking or tripping or elbowing. I think honestly, it has been the most consistent call this year. I know I always get torn apart

about the goalie interference calls. I think this year is the one year out of all of them that pretty much all of them have been right. Yeah, I mean, that one that they got last night was kind of a layup, but maybe it's honestly just fishing, like I said, to see will we get that? And God, as I'm thinking about it, I'm like, what's he doing?

He's going against the Florida Panthers. If you don't remember the second round last year, anything goalie interference related with the Panthers went the Panthers way last year. So maybe that was a fool's errand on Cooper's part. You mentioned Dry Settle a couple of seconds ago. I got like five minutes left with you here. I want to get more thoughts on Edmonton and LA. So I walk away from game one, like I was asking Zach this on the show.

I walk away from game one and I'm like okay so LA won the game but I don't know who really won the game. You know what I mean? Like sure the Kings are up one nothing but did they win like the bigger picture game or did the Oilers win that game? Again we think of all the scenarios that can happen and Pete made the point of like, everything is on the table with the Oilers. Every weird combination of whatever, if the Oilers are involved, throw in whatever combination you want. And I came out of that game saying, on what chaos, I'll clean it up. We put teams on a whole watch and the Kings are the only team that has gotten the combination of a great win and then been put on a whole watch because this game left Kings fans thinking,

Oh my God, it's happening again. Oh my God. Carter McDavid. They got that. I talked to Kings fans. I talked to people that were in the building and I was, it was weird. I'm an Oilers fan and I wasn't particularly worried after the game. Really I just wanted to know from Kings fans, like tell me, you were horrified, weren't you? And they were like, absolutely. That's all I need. I can go to bed now.

And that's kind of what resulted from that game. The Kings got out of that one and Pete and I were streaming during it in the third period and The Kings were up two goals and I said this sounds stupid But the Kings need to be up two more goals they need to win by four goals if they want to feel that they dominated this game the way that they did because like I tip my cap to the Kings for how they Sort of neutralized McDavid for the first two periods of that game. And Pete was saying, oh, like, no, what, like, there's the, who cares about moral victories with this?

The Kings win and the Kings will win. And then we saw what happened. And it's like a moral loss for LA. Yeah, they won the game, but lost the war. You know, it's because I don't believe in momentum between games and the playoffs. I think every, like, these are like seven one-game series. Like, I don't think, I don't think that momentum carries. Um, except in this case, I kind of do. Like if I'm, if I'm Edmonton, I'm walking in there tonight at crypto.com just the same way at the Florida Panthers walked

into Emily arena yesterday and said, you know, we're, we're, we're the big boys here now. We have, we have the Stanley cup. We don't care that we're in your barn. we're the big boys here now. We have the Stanley Cup. We don't care that we're in your barn. We're the big boys here. That's kind of true like Edmondson. Noblock's been going pedal to the metal. Tyler Yerumchuk, our mutual friend who is the absolute best, made such a great point

because I was getting on him for sending Bouchard and the big guns out when it was tied late because clearly he was going for the jugular and I hated that. And Tyler brought up the point of the Oilers almost should have wanted to get to overtime instead of winning in regulation because you make it that much worse for the Kings. You give them that intermission where they are thinking, oh my God. And that sort of feeling is going to last the rest of the series when Edmonton inevitably wins. But they're doing it again, like loading up, going with Dry Saddle and McDavid together, which I

generally don't like doing. And I think that it's kind of a panic move in a way, but also it's not a bad way to continue to scare LA if they are feeling any sort of way coming out of that one. In case of emergency break glass, you know, Quenville did that with Taves and Kane. They're always separated until they needed something and then they put it together, they would put those two together and it was that in case of emergency break glass move and I agree like it's it make no but they're to better like it's a panic move like you put those two together when okay we got

to manufacture something here and it's really got to happen. You know, it is really interesting You know psychologically being a team and overtime and coming back that way. I do think is just like so deflating the only thing I can relate it to we've had the big conversation who's the best goal scorer of all time and Alexander of actually scored the most goals and Wengretzky this and and Mike Bossy always comes up the goals per game is always the biggest. What I always point to with Bossy and Kelly Rudy told me this story so like Bossy would shoot after practice at the middle of the net buckets of pucks middle of it not corners not bar down not tightens right in the middle of the net from all different different areas in front of the net and Kelly said

why are you doing that? And he said Kelly I different areas in front of the net and Kelly said, why are you doing that? And he said, Kelly, I don't want to be the guy that scores over a goalie shoulder. I don't want to be the guy that goes like bar down. I want to be like in the post and in because a goalie can say, well, it's just a perfect shot. I want it to go between his legs. I want it psychologically. I want the goalie to feel like I put the puck through him because it fucks with his head. That's what I want. I want to mess with a goalie's head. And hearing you talk about sitting in the dressing room over time on the horizon, and we've just squandered four,

messing with someone's head, right? It's like Slap Shot, got him in the mind. Got him in the mind, got him right in the mind. And you know, Zach texted me today and said, how you feeling? And I was like, I can't say this on my show because it just sounds so obnoxious, but I'm like, like they can lose two nothing

and it'll be okay. And I don't know if you saw the, just because they, it's terrible behavior. It's terrible behavior, but this just is what this team is. I don't know if you saw the stat that Stoff put out, which is games one through three since 2022 for the Oilers, 10 and 18, well below 500, well below 400 in fact, games four through seven, 19 and seven, 730.

So you want a team that is willing to play with their food. I'll caution and everyone has said it, this Kings team is better than the past ones. And I trust Kemper more than I've trusted any of these past goaltenders. And I think especially if you're going to do the sort of lineup maneuvers that Edmonton is tonight, where they really are sort of loading up that first line,

you're asking for trouble and asking for Quinton Byfield to continue to feast. But man, it's just, there is one team in the league like this that it doesn't matter if they are in a 4-0 hole or if they're in a 3-0 series hole. So that's why they play them I suppose. Don't change it. Oh, they're down four Cobb in the third.

Oh, what else? Don't, don't do it. Don't do it. An oversh're down four Cobb in the third. Oh, what else? Don't, don't do it. Don't do it. An overshare, I was watching with my girlfriend and after two periods, she was like, you know, it's really late. East Coast, I said, I know, go to bed. And she said, wake me up.

Wake me up if it gets interesting. And as they're coming back, I'm like, it technically is interesting, but I don't think they're winning this game. And then eventually I had to barge out, break down the door and yell, McDavid score. They tied it. I'm going to live forever. And she, I run back in cause I'm doing the stream with Pete and Sean and she

comes back in and the game's over and she's like, what, what, what, what, what, what happened at the end of the Northern experience? Philip to no happen as a lazy back check from 29 and 97. Not Stu's fault. Everyone makes everything about Stu and they benched the wrong Skinner tonight. How about that, eh? I hate it. I was wearing my Jeff Skinner Sabre shirt today.

I hate it. I don't know what that man did to Chris Knobloch, but. He gets one game. Your streak is over. Enjoy. Now put your suit and tie on. He gets one game. Your streak is over, enjoy. Now put your suit and tie on. With all these coaching maneuvers, Knobloch didn't give the hottest line in hockey one game.

Skinner, McDavid, and Brown were nails when McDavid came back, and yeah, we can guess why, but that line was really good and really successful, really productive. I'm surprised they didn't do that, but I line was really good and really successful, really productive. I'm surprised they didn't do that, but I guess we cannot, we should not sleep on the apparent hatred that won Chris Knoblok, who I quite like holds for our dear friend, Jeff Skinner.

I do love him, love him going back to the, you know, it's funny, I, people don't believe me when I say this, but when he, again, I'm gonna turn to that guy being, when he played junior with the Kitchen Rangers in the playoffs, they're like, honestly, there was like this Brad Marchand quality he had. Like he was like angry, bored, not even bored, angry, dirty, like faster than everybody, but he was that guy. And I remember talking to someone at Carolina, like in the organization when they drafted him, like, what are we getting from this guy? I'm like,

you're getting like the new Pat Ver Beak. Like you're getting a better skating Pat for Beak. Like that was that guy in junior hockey. Like you had that nastiness to him. It was, he would go crazy when they would be losing. I loved, I loved watching him as a junior. He was great. A dirty player that, of whom I am very fond said that really only went off on one guy and talking about how dirty a player he was and that slew foots people all the time.

And the player being described was Jeff Skinner. And the person speaking the words was Brad Marshand. Jeff Skinner is who Brad Marshand calls dirty. Okay? And that's why, and we were talking before the series trying to come up with line combinations, and Sean was saying, why don't you do Skinner with Perry? Why don't you like a Skinner-Perry Frederick thing and try to awaken the you-know-what that Jeff Skinner could once be just just a miserable to play against Dude continue success. We will we will check back soon and often all the best to Pete and Sean and continue the success that is what chaos really appreciate you stopping by today pal. Thank you

My friend, you know that we're the biggest fans. So we really appreciate it. You said that just as I wrote it Look at that. All right, you read scripts. Good. That's fine. All right. Thanks, bud. You said that just as I wrote it. Look at that. All right, you read scripts good, that's fine. All right, thanks bud. We'll talk soon. There is the great DJ Bean from the What Chaos Show along with Pete Blackburn. Wanna remind you here as we're bringing on Aaron Ambrose from the Montreal Victoire,

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RV easy, rent your RV, make money easy. With that we'll bring our board from the Montreal Victoire. The the league woke up this morning and had six teams and the league goes to bed tonight and there are seven. We're talking about the PWHL and we're talking with Aaron Ambrose. First of all, love the CCM shirt. Thank you sir. Is that the Ambrose line? This is the EA23 line version one. Version two will be coming out shortly. Oh do you have a tease for us? Maybe something you can put up in the background there, yeah, E. Ambrose?

I don't yet. I don't have it in my hands yet. Once I do, I'm sure I'll get it out there. Excellent. Well, first of all, I don't even know how to say this, but like, do you congratulate someone on a silver medal? Because I know that athletes at the time don't feel like it's an achievement,

but then years later you look back and you go, that was still something really special. And it was a wonderful game. And again, here we go, Canada, US, going into overtime because nobody wants to make it easy. Congratulations. And I mean that sincerely. I know you do and thank you.

I think maybe 10 years ago, I probably wouldn't have actually said thank you. And I told you, I would have told you to just shut up. But it is, it's like that now. I mean, it always has been since I've been in the program. I think of the gold medal games that I've gone to in world championships, all but one have gone into overtime. Yeah, it is something so unique about this rivalry. And I'm sure you've thought of it often, like you're one of and now finally,

the men's side is caught up to the women. You're part of one of the best rivalries in the history of hockey. Like does that like that? Is that the size of that ever sort of dawn on you or he's sort of oblivious to it because you've always been swimming in that water? I think a little bit oblivious to it. Uh, honestly with the four nations and that event and how heated Canada, U S was at that, like everybody talked about it and was like, look at this rivalry.

And it was like, you're a little late. This has been going on for a very long time on our side. But I think somebody had asked me before the tournament if I thought our rivalry with the US was going to get even more intense because of what it was like at Foreign Nations. And I was like, I don't think it can. I don't think it actually can get any more than it already is. Nothing's adding fuel to the fire other than

us losing now in this year's gold medal game. Like that adds fuel to the fire for the next time we see them. But like other than internal things, like I don't think there's there's things that can add to it. You know this one of the things that people wondered about was with the creation of the PWHL, what was that going to mean to the Canada US rivalry, given that now all of a sudden, someone that you've hated playing against for years and years and years, you're now sharing a room and you're sharing, you know, that person is your D partner or that person is your left winger. But it doesn't seem as if that is actually a thing. Or is it? Like, does it feel different now? A little bit. Like, I think my first World Championship was 2017, and the only person I ever, and I don't even know if I had much of a conversation

with her at the tournament, but the only person on the States that I ever would have talked to would have been Megan Duggan because she had been my coach at college. But then she was also captain of the US team and it was like, oh, no, definitely not. But it was kind of nice. I'm not going to lie at this world's like it was just us and Czechia in a hotel together. So like, I'm not kidding you when I say like, I did not see the Americans or any other team

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Chequia had a great tournament. Chequia was really good. Yep, they've got a lot of skill. And we see again, listen, a lot of it's playing for Ottawa as well, and also considering the coaching situation there too. Last one on the world championships. I'm always curious, what was unique about this one? I know they're all different. What was unique about this tournament? The venue, whether it was playing where you were,

I'm sure you had plenty of walks down cobblestone streets. What was it about this tournament? It's funny you say that because our first game day, Nersi and I were both in heels, walking down the cobblestone street with Jenner to go get coffee. I never wore heels again the rest of the tournament. That's because they were faking.

Nersi did, but Nersi actually ended up wearing running shoes the one day to get coffee and then switched into her heels. What was different? I think it was incredible. The fan support like they truly embraced us and not just check you like everybody came to every single game. Didn't matter who it was.

If it was Group B teams, like there were fans in the building the whole time. And that was really, really exciting. And they were loud and they were fun. I think that other than a crowd at the Bell Center, nothing quite compares to European crowds. They're just a different vibe. Yeah. That's so true. That is so true.

And even a Bell Center vibe is not, like those fans are not the same as European vibes. Like they have a party and it's fun to see. And then I would just say it was learned a lot about Easter traditions in Czechia. Yeah. Yeah. So there was like some creepy masks that they would wear when they did things throughout the day.

We learned a lot. Any stories? They just, I never got to sleep in because it was like every four hours they used these, they were almost like carts and they would push them and they would make a whooshing noise and it was loud and then they'd do it to a beat of a drum um i guess it's this keep away the evil spirits so learned a lot that's good that's good okay so back home uh you know nobody has any idea how this is all going to sort itself

out you know the pwhl here and who's in and and and who's out it's uh kind of been a wild ride so far this season in the PWHL. But I want to ask you about what, and I'm glad we have you on right now and that the announcement was made earlier so I can ask you officially about it. I still think Seattle's on the horizon,

climate pledge arena, we'll see what goes on there. Anyway, Vancouver, the first expansion market announced by the PWHL. Now you were part of the tour and you've played there and you know what those fans are like. I don't know if you watched the press conference today at all, but Tessa did a tremendous job, no surprise. Just your thoughts on Vancouver.

I like for Pooh. What's that? Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, she, as she should, when she dropped it, yeah, Sid did score the golden goal, but Poo had too. I was just like, gotta beat Tess. I'll bet that. Look, she's the clutchiest player that ever clutched, like in the history of clutch.

We all know that by now. But Vancouver joins the fold for the PWHL to which Aaron Ambrose says what? Very excited. Um, first and foremost, like the city of Vancouver, I think truly deserves it. Um, we did, I guess Seattle, Vancouver and Denver were our three stops and then Quebec city. Um, but we did those three all in a row and not knocking Denver or Seattle cause they

were both great, but Seattle or, but Vancouver was the most well attended and not even just well attended, just like so engaged. I think around the city there was a lot of hype and it's a beautiful place. Like I think of just BC and I'm excited that there is a team, an expansion team in Canada. Because I think like we all, we all had questions as to where we obviously we knew that there was a lot of possibility that expansion was going to happen. So I'm glad that a team and I don't know if there is another team. I can't say one way or another. I have no confirmation. But to know that a Canadian expansion team is here is really, really exciting.

I think if you look at all three markets in Canada, the fan bases in each one of those markets has, I think far exceeded expectations. So to know that Vancouver obviously showed up for our game against Toronto there and now has their own team. They deserve it. I'm excited for them and I'm really excited for the league to kind of take another step in growth and opportunities. 23 new jobs. Plus. Plus, right? Plus with this manager. They have to fill out an entire team, obviously. But when you think 23 new jobs here,

like what goes through your mind? I mean, you've seen, like it's hard to play in the, it's hard to make it to the PWHL. We all know that. And there are a lot of players that are knocking on the door. When you hear 23 new jobs, you say like, okay, finally now she can play.

Now finally there's a door, there's a path for her to get into the PWHL. Yeah. I think like looking at the draft class that's coming out and it's hard because I feel like the further out of college I get, the less I know the players coming out of college, I just don't have the amount of time to really watch and, and the connection to watching the draftees, I guess. But I do know that this is a very, very strong draft class. So

to sit there and think that if Vancouver wasn't happening, the amount of players that were coming in, it was like, okay, wow, like, are the top draft picks this year, I think are truly gonna push a lot of people down in lineups, which is a great thing. But I also think it was gonna knock people out that are already here that are doing such a good job. So that 23 player roster that, who knows what's gonna happen with our reserves, but like 25, 28 players, like that's

huge for this league. I think to keep people involved, to bring in more Europeans, we're starting to see a shift I think in the international game and the skill that is coming out of college, that is coming in from European countries is only going to better our game and better our teams. And I think that it's something that's really exciting for our game and for this league in general. I'm glad you mentioned the European countries because, you know, I look at, I look at a country like, like Finland.

And one of the things that someone told me not too long ago was like, you know, if the PWHL is going to expand, they need to do it ASAP because countries like Finland are locking up their athletes. Like they're, they're locking them up. So they, so they don't go. Do you think this is part of the motivation that, you know, do you think it's part of the motivation now that here we are heading into season three

of the PWHL and already there's the first stage of expansion? I think it's a reflection of trying to loosen up some of those players from Europe to make the jump and not get locked up. Finland's the obvious one. That's a tough one because we got a bunch of the top players last year. I think the players that we did get over to the PWHL from Sweden, Finland, like Czechia, like those three countries I think are the three that are very close and I don't know kind of if

People are shy to come like a little bit nervous to come which I mean rightfully so moving across the world I think brings that which is very valid, but I don't know what it's gonna be like. I don't know how many are gonna come over this year I don't know who's gonna come over. I haven't really been hearing a lot, but I'm sure I can talk to Lina Jungblom and find out who else will be coming over from Sweden. And it's an exciting thing. And I think that the best part is that, and I think this is the biggest thing for us is there's a lot of goaltenders right now that are starters in different countries, um, that are, are not in starting positions in the PWHL.

Um, and I think that those are opportunities that with the expansion is going to bring, um, great results for them, I should say. That's an excellent point. Um, before I let you go, I have to ask about, uh, the Stanley Cup playoffs and your team, the Toronto Maple Leafs. Yes, my team. Did you watch last night? I did watch last night.

I even watched two periods of game one, um, which might I add started at 1am in Czechia, so I did watch two of the periods. Committed Leafs fan. I get it. The Leafs are up to nothing heading to Ottawa. This show is heading to Ottawa. We're gonna do the show for the next couple of days in the nation's capital. I don't know that anyone thinks... I'm heading to Ottawa for a game. Hold on, time out. When are you in Ottawa? I'm driving right after today. When I'm gonna be there Thursday, Friday. When are you going? We play on Saturday in Ottawa. I gotta go go to Niagara. My kids got a tournament.

Why do you keep doing this? Anywho. Come meet me in Ottawa. Listen, like 401 or whenever, when the show's over, I'm hopping in the car and driving to Ottawa. I'll meet you in Canada at 930. 930, 10 o'clock. I'll meet you in Canada. Come on, Ambrose. Hop in the Batmobile. Continue with my Leafs. Okay, let me ask you this then. Closing question. Do you think this series is over? Absolutely not. Anybody who thinks the series is over, one, is not a true Leafs fan. You can't ever think of a series. Or knowledgeable Leafs fan.

is not a true Leafs fan. You can't ever think of a series- Or knowledgeable Leafs fan. Exactly, until four games have been won. Two, I'm an athlete and I know that no series is ever over until you win that fourth game. Like, you can joke about being a Leafs fan and different trauma that we have and different things that have gone on, but-

Hockey scars, Aaron, hockey scars. Yes, but I think even just as an athlete, like if you think You're supposed to win at home. Everybody always says yeah It doesn't nothing changes the series doesn't start until somebody loses at home. So least did their job They won their first two games. They did their job now. They're gonna go into Which we're hearing is gonna be a little bit of a hostile environment. I don't know if we'll see how many, how many of yours get in Ambrose. That's really interesting.

So, um, but you're going to Ottawa and honestly, I think that the sends are just starting to figure it all out too. Um, like I think there is, I don't think Drake Batherson or Dylan Cousins misses a hit in game three after missing that on Domi's overtime winner. I think everything's gonna be bumped up another notch. Do you have a, let me focus on that one. I'm curious your thoughts as a player here.

That's a tough one for Drake Batherson. I, as soon as that went in, my first thought is like, oh, Batherson with the flyby and it's overtime and you can't do it. Like, how did you read that entire play from Benoit's rush, the drop to Domi, the cut to the middle, which used to be like, you never, no one cut to the middle like that. You don't do it. But then, and then the Batherson flyby and a great screen, a great jumping screen by, by Simon Benoit on that play. How did you see that as a player? Honestly, I was a little bit nervous when Ottawa was coming down the other way and it was a great

read. I think Biaxa was talking about it last night during the broadcast, like an if you play to make for Batherson on his backhand of the middle of the ice, but I wouldn't have pegged Benoit to be a guy that would jump that pass. Usually he'll just accept the rush and kind of defend it quietly, I would say is the right way to put it. And then to move his feet out of it. Honestly, I didn't like Benoit's drop to max. I thought it was telegraphed. I thought it was slow and I thought that that was getting turned over. Ottawa didn't gap up well enough on the rush to begin with. I don't know who it was if I don't know who the D were but Max makes a skilled play. He actually makes two skilled plays when he picks up that puck.

And then you mentioned it that flash screen by Benoit I think actually was huge. He doesn't just make the drop pass and kind of fade into the corner and stay on the outside. He goes to the net and, um, Max isn't scoring that if Benoit doesn't flash screen. You know what Harry Neil used to say about drop passes? It's one of my favorite lines. Aaron, there's two places you should never make drop passes.

At home and on the road. Everywhere else you can make drop passes. Just not at home and not on the road. Wisdom from one of the greats, Harry Neal. Welcome back. Good luck against Ottawa. Even though you're not gonna go early to see your buddy, Jeffy.

That's fine. I get in on Friday. You make the effort. I leave on Friday. I got to go to Niagara. My kid's got a tournament. Get in early. Commitment is lacking Jeff Merrick. I'm going to be bored on my drive and I'm calling you. And you can entertain me for the five hour drive. In the meantime, we'll bid you good afternoon and congratulate you again.

And good luck the rest of the way this season with the PWHL. Congratulations to you to league on expansion as well. It looks great three years in and the league is already expanding. Erin, thanks as always. You be well. Thank you, Jeff. Have a good weekend. There she is Erin Ambrose, a defender for the Montreal victor of the PWHL and team Canada, winning silver in the most recent World Championships in Czechia.

Now then, some orders of business before we bid you good afternoon. Again, like I'll remind you, tomorrow this show is on a one o'clock Eastern. We'll put out some promos for it to remind you, but we're changing times for the next couple of days. We'll be in Ottawa for game three. So the show goes one o'clock Thursday Eastern, one Eastern Thursday, one Eastern Friday as well. In the meantime, J.P. Weiser's, need some line combinations here folks.

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of Canadian celebrations, bringing people together to raise a glass to the passion and pride that fuel Canada's game. And Zach, what are we looking at today as far as interesting line combinations for the games that we have this evening? The one that I was picking out was courtesy of our friends over on Daily Face Off where I check lineups every day and trying to see what's going on with the Leafs out of

each game day but today was Oilers specific and more so about the second line there we're looking at a Vander Kane slotting into the second line. Leon Dreisetta bumped up to the first line. DJ talked about that there as well, loading up the first line, but it's that a Vander Kane name that was sticking out to me. I pulled it up. I mean, like I shouldn't have been surprised, Jeff, cause we knew right like we knew

But I saw it and I went well It's happening. You know we heard that the league was not really happy with all the LTL TIR stuff And maybe the whalers you know under the behind the scenes are like oh, yeah, you can't go game one Well, he's ready for game two, but I saw him jump back there and I was like, alright, so it begins Let me let me pick up on that conversation quickly. I've always been I've always been of the mind that There are managers that will grumble about what's happened with LTI are Whether it's Tampa with Kuturov Chicago with Kane like I Know there are people that always grumble about it, but I thought when push came to shove,

that nothing was gonna be done about it. Because it's like, how else are you gonna do it? Like what other mechanisms are we going to create here? Like put it this way, is the juice worth the squeeze for this one? Like is it worth making a new rule or a combination of new rules to avoid a Kuturov situation? Or a Pat Kane situation? Is it worth it? But now it does very much seem like the NHL wants to do something about it.

And maybe even do something about it before this CBA expires. I always thought it was gonna be like a negotiating point in the next CBA discussion. I don't think that way anymore. I think that there's enough smoke here that makes me believe that they might just deal with this before the CBA is up.

My beef with them, I have no issue if they want to revisit this in the summer. Like I get that and I get them being frustrated with what, with like the way that this has gone down the last couple of years, whatever, and they want to fix this, change it, whatever. I was really annoyed, maybe, I don't know, maybe it's just I'm agitated because there I'm on edge is the better way to put it because if I'm dealing with Leafs playoffs And that never really puts me in the right mood at this time like it's just ups and downs at all time and anything could Have have you ready to swing but I'm hearing like oh, you know that the leaks are not happy with the LTI are and like That's what's going on. You know, it's not confirmed, it's just grumblings and stuff. I'm like, well, you can control this in a way. You set these rules out in place and teams are taking it.

But teams are taking advantage of what's going on. That's a negotiation with the Players Association too. But my point is you've allowed this to be the case and they're just taking what's happening. That's a negotiation with the players association too. That's not just arbitrarily. But my point is you've allowed this to be the case and they're just taking what's happening. Like you're allowed to do this is my point. Yeah. You're allowed to do this. So, so...

Well, no, hang on. What are we slapping you guys on the wrist for? Technically, no, hang on. Technically you're not. You're not allowed to do this if the player's not injured. I think a lot of people are like, the policing around this needs to be different. And if the policing around it isn't going to be different, then do they need to step in and say, okay, if you don't play game 82, you can't play game 83.

And then you can go on from there. Okay, right. Or you do like the some GMs have proposed like you have to have a salary cap compliant lineup for every single game. So then my question, which, cause I actually don't know, and maybe you can help myself and other people in the chat here then is, is the league not involved in the, in the, um, monitoring of the injuries? Yes. Like I was under the impression that they had to know yes, so yes

What are what are we talking about here? Then if the guys injured or not like isn't the league supposed to be at least shouldn't they have somebody who's more involved in that? Process then who says no Matthew Kuchak can play and should play in game 79 80 and not waiting till the playoffs here or you know Kuturov could have actually played in game 65 of the year and not wait till the playoffs like isn't there a guy who's around or a person sorry who's around? You know what the interesting thing about it is though too when you consider like the nature of hockey I just assume that everybody's hurt always. Yeah I know. So like if you're on LTIR for example and you want to fudge the system, like everybody's hurt. You can make a case for a lot of players that probably shouldn't be out there.

Like I look at the Dallas Stars right now and this has been true of the Dallas Stars for a couple of years. Like don't tell me they're not banged up. Don't tell me like you look at the Dallas Stars, don't tell me they're not banged up. Don't tell me that you look at the Dallas Stars, but don't tell me that that team is not significantly banged up. Like more so than just like Hayskinen's not in the lineup or Jason Robertson's not in the lineup. Like I look at the whole roster and say yeah this team's big and that's why like man it's gonna be really tough tough chore against Colorado because they're all dinged up they're all they're all bashed in.

Make case for so many different players for being on LTIR and have, you know, someone from the league come and check on them and is this guy hurt? Well, yeah. Everybody's hurt. Where does it hurt? Whole body every day. It's hockey. You know, we're 65, 70 games into this. Everything, everywhere, always. Yeah, it all hurts. It's like the great Chris Bada press release about Rick DiPietro will not be playing tonight due to General Body Soreness.

Like, that's everybody. General Soreness in chat. General Soreness in the chat, yeah. That's right, that must be, that must be, that might be, that might just be Chris Bada's burner right there. I could just be like Chris Bada behind that handle on the chat.

General Soreness if that is indeed your real name. Anyhow, yeah, that's an interesting one, but it does very much feel to me like the league is very much serious about this, and by that I mean like a lot of the general managers are and they do want something done about this. I don't know. I got one more lineup for you.

I'm gonna pop it up on the screen. What do you got? Sure, what's up? You're gonna like it. Oh yeah. Oh, it's so good. Like you wanna talk about making my day? They call him out of half a inch.

Gabriel Landisgog, your boys' favorite player. Yeah. Still in their third line. I really do think, by the way, that that was not just a let's get him through a day in game two and see how he feels I think that they I think that they really thought that he was that he was gonna go in I Know I might be in the minority on that one. I get it I understand but I really thought that did they there was there was the strong consideration that he was going into that game and

That wasn't just a let's walk him through the routine for the day but Gabriel andkog is back. Honestly, when Gabe Landeskog hits the ice, how loud is ball arena going to be? Like let's get there now. The sheet is powered by FanDuel. Let's go through the games too. The sheet is powered by FanDuel, home of the same game Parlay. Make every moment more on FanDuel. FanDuel, proud to connect fans to the major sports moments that matter to them. Now St. Louis and Winnipeg have an off day today, so we got three. We've got Montreal and Washington caps up 1-0. We got Edmonton, Los Angeles at Crypto.com.

I don't know who won the first game. I really can't tell you who won that first game. I know it says that Los Angeles is leading the series 1-0, but again, did they really win that game? But! I have a different opinion on it than you do, by the way. Okay, what's your opinion? Maybe, maybe I'm just a little bit more cynical of it, and because I've been doubting the Saddmonton team a bit this year already but I look at it from the side of LA where that feels like a positive and I know you're talking about momentum going

through but that feels like a positive for LA where in years past it's felt like they couldn't outscore some of the issues that they've had in these series against Saddmonton when stuff has come up So I look at it from the other side where I'm like, yeah, you let them come back. It was sketchy It wasn't it was not fun in that third period for the LA Kings and like our Boss both of ours yours now to Alma last night. We were talking about the Leafs at the end of the third period They were like almost said they were like the boxer, you know against Leafs at the end of the third period. They were like, almost said they were like the boxer, you know, against the ropes at the end of the fight.

That's kind of what LA was doing in that third period until finally they landed the knockout punch with 40 left. It kind of felt like to me at least LA can walk away and be like, that was gross. That was ugly. We didn't like it, but we can do it. And you could score, you could get it done. Kemper's not, I don't think Kemper's going to play that again, I think he's gonna have a better game, like I just feel like they had a lot of positives to take away that were like we didn't do

this before, we couldn't do this before, but we could do it now. Or did they use up all their goals? Hey, can I- Well, I mean that's the other side, yeah. Can I be a real hockey geek for a second? You know, another thing that I wanted to mention this the other day, I didn't get the other side. Can I be a real hockey geek for a second? You know, another thing that I wanted to mention this the other day, and I didn't get a chance to. You know what I really love that game?

I have, as a Canadian, I have a real soft spot in my heart for 6-5. To me that is Team Canada's score. 6-5. 1972, Game 8, 6-5. 1987, Canada Cup, all three games, Canada versus Soviet Union. 6-5, 6-5, 6-5. So when I see 6-5, I'm always like, the Canadian score. That's it. There's no context other than that's the Canadian score. That's it. There's no context other than like that's the Canadian score. I have no point. I just smile.

When I see 6-5. Because historically that's the Canadian score. 6-5. Still close. Exciting game. Could go either way. Lot of goals. 6-5. You have a score. You have a score of the... Lot of goals six five yeah Yeah, I don't have

Yeah for one even bored you weren't even born when these games happen If you were asking me if there's a score that sticks out in my mind and gives me the for one some Mental association yeah, it's for one. Yeah, it's four one. It gives you the heat. Nightmares. The sweats. For four to one. All right, I'm hoppin' in the Batmobile and goin' to Ottawa. So tomorrow, the show is at one o'clock Eastern.

Ditto for Friday. Heading to Ottawa for game three and I'll count the Maple Leafs fans for ya. And I'll report back. Are you at credit tomorrow? You'll probably have an easier time counting the Sens fans. Well, we'll see.

It's gonna be fascinating to see who the home team is for game three. See how many actually get in. But yes, we'll be at Greta. Producer Vic and I will be at Maple Leafs Square leading up to game time. We're gonna be doing some on the street content and then we'll be back at Greta to watch the game. Watch along, come join us there and

post game at Greta tomorrow again. That and Saturday too. Point out as well. 590 King Street West, downtown Toronto. Love it. Awesome. You have a good time. Send my best to producer Vic. Make sure he doesn't wear the lampshade because he has a show to produce in the morning. Thank you very much. There he goes. The one and only Zach Phillips. Thanks to Aaron Ambrose from the Montreal Victoire of the PWHL. Big news today coming out of that league. They expand initially by one. There should be another one on the horizon. Seattle coming next. But Vancouver becomes team number seven in the PWHL, soon to be

eight as well. Thanks to DJ Bean from What Chaos for stopping by also. Enjoy the game tonight, three of them. We'll be back again tomorrow. I think this show is a Canadian Tire Center. Like we'll be in the rink tomorrow for the next couple of days. So that'll be a lot of fun. Guests to be announced. In the meantime, enjoy the game tonight. They're always good. Man, the playoffs have been fantastic so far. Hope you're enjoying them as much as I have been. We'll talk to you again tomorrow. Have a great day. Lost all ambitions day to day Guess you can call it a ride I went to the dark man He tried to give me a little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine

I'm not against those methods but I knew It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixed in my mind I do want a record I turned on the music Thanks for watching!