The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Hurricanes Hot Start, Retro Jerseys, & Oilers Struggles ft. Cory Lavalette & Devan Dubnyk

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

It’s another loaded episode of The Sheet, hosted by Jeff Marek, as he dives into some of the NHL’s biggest storylines. Jeff opens the show reacting to the Colorado Avalanche’s stunning announcem...ent that they’ll be breaking out their Quebec Nordiques throwbacks when they face the Carolina Hurricanes — who will be wearing their own Hartford Whalers uniforms — in a nostalgic clash of two relocated franchises. Then, Jeff welcomes Cory Lavalette to break down the Hurricanes’ hot start to the season, how new additions are fitting in, what’s still missing from the lineup, and how Carolina continues to evolve under Rod Brind’Amour. Later, Devan Dubnyk joins the show to analyze the Edmonton Oilers’ early-season struggles, from their lack of scoring and defensive lapses to the increased pressure on Evan Bouchard and Stuart Skinner as the team searches for answers in the Pacific Division.#TheSheet #NHL #Hockey #JeffMarek #CarolinaHurricanes #HartfordWhalers #ColoradoAvalanche #QuebecNordiques #EdmontonOilers #DevanDubnyk #EvanBouchard #StuartSkinner #RodBrindAmour #CoryLavaletteSHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Shark Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey there, it's Jeff Merrick here. You know, my wife and I both have countless memories from spending time discovering Canada. Well, I always come back to the summer of 2005. We were staying at a cottage on Lake Joseph here in Muscoca, watching the Live 8 music festival in Barry on television. My buddy Jeremy Taggart, former drummer from Our Lady Peace, dropped by after his band's set and stayed the rest of the weekend at the cottage after the band's set and told some incredible backstage stories about some amazing Canadian music icons. I will never forget that.
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Starting point is 00:01:28 All right, start the show off today with a quick shout-out. Three people in Pacific, as we say in the Atlantic. George Alves, Nick Roy, Patrick Buds, first stars of the last two weeks. You know why, Zach? You know why those three gentlemen are the first stars of the last two weeks? I genuinely do not have a clue. Those are three of the equipment managers for the Carolina Hurricanes, who have been lugging around Hartford Whalers gear on a two-week road trip for said Carolina Hurricanes.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Waiting for this announcement today, that's Thursday. It'll be the Colorado Avalanche wearing their Quebec Nordiques uniforms, facing off against the Carolina Hurricanes who will be in their whalers unies. So the equipment guys never get enough of a shoutout at all or recognition. But congratulations, gentlemen. You are the first star of the last two weeks in the NHL
Starting point is 00:02:42 for lugging all this extra stuff around as a hurricanes were on this roadie. Good job, guys. That's something I never thought about is having to carry all the sets of the uniforms and everything on the road with them as they go. It's like, here's more. The gear is one thing.
Starting point is 00:02:55 but yeah yeah okay so we're going on the road you're going to take this with you yeah and oh by the way we have this secret launch of a new uniform that we're bringing this year because we're going to do this awesome quite frankly match up yeah uniform matchup but uh yeah you keep this one under wraps and can you carry that around with you do you mind is that all good uh no no not do you mind it's this is what you're doing yeah yeah this is this is what's going on here's here's something extra that you guys can lug around. Anyhow, well done, gentlemen. Well done.
Starting point is 00:03:28 So that's going to look like a lot of fun on Thursday. Again, like, I don't think the NHL or NHL teams should spend a lot of time programming to the olds, like me, because this just like tickles me under the chin, old WHA fan. But I always think it's good every now and then to have at least one little nod to history. Like, I don't think the NHL should get, or teams should get. get, you know, flooded by history or should get, spend too much of their time winking at the past. I think it's more important for organizations to look forward, but every now and then with things like this, it's just too juicy and too delicious to do.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I think it's a good idea to do it. Now, do you want to hear an idea, which would piss off a lot of people? I do. I do. Okay. So Carolina is wearing the Carolina's wearing the Hartford Whalers gear, right? Against the Colorado Avalanche
Starting point is 00:04:28 who are wearing the Quebec Nordiques gear. Every year the Carolina Hurricanes do like Hartford Whalers Heritage Night and you know what they're going to wear their Hartford Whaler gear Do you know who they're playing that night?
Starting point is 00:04:55 No, who are they playing? Utah. Or maybe for one night they're playing the Jets. Another WHA team. Do you think there's any way, anyhow, in this universe or any other universe that Utah? Or the NHL would allow the Utah Mammoth to wear the Winnipeg Jets uniform. That is their history after all. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Fun. I'm going to say hard no. Hard no. Not even an inkling of a percentage that they would say yes. For me, I don't think so. Funny, though, fair. Good point. So this is Utah wearing Winnipeg's gear?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Winnipeg is in the league. No, but you don't understand. There was a team called the Atlanta Thrashers, and then Winnipeg and Ed Olchuk made the big speech, and they went to the coyotes, and then they had this ownership group that completely drove this entire thing into the ground and were hated by everybody in Arizona,
Starting point is 00:06:07 and they ended up at the last minute pulling up stakes and going to Utah. You got to see this guy, Ryan Smith. He's a new owner, and you can look the other way on him glass-banging because he owns the team so he can do whatever he wants. Maybe for one night. They could go back to being the Jets on a retro night. Or would that be too much to ask?
Starting point is 00:06:25 There's somebody in the league office right now who saw this. And just saying, fuck, Jeff. Oh, yeah, yeah. We just shut up, man. Just like, you got, look, you got the Nordigues and the Whalers. Like, calm down. Calm down, cowboy. Like, that's all we're going to give you.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That's what you're going to get. Greedy, greedy, greedy, greedy. Anywho, Thursday, we will see the first installment. We do wonder about the home-and-home on the third. Although in the Nord-Eaks, in the Avalanche promo calendar, they did put that it's Colorado, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, Nordiques versus Whalers. Yeah, but I don't think, I don't, anyhow, here's, here's what I'm getting at. That's really interesting and it's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I think the league should spend, and they do, spend more time looking forward than looking backward. That's why I think it's important to have stars that are in the game right now be involved in all of your commercial endeavors. You know, like, you know, the enterprise commercial with Marty Breder, all those enterprise commercials, like, that's great and all that. But could it not be like Connor Hallibuck or somebody else, like someone who's like in the game now? Like, oh, it's fun and it's great and all that. By the way, Brian always at Bricky, and we'll have Bricky on again tomorrow, always has a problem with using the Stanley Cup as a sort of commercial prop for things like that. Remind me to get Berkey going on using the Stanley Cup in commercials.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, he really doesn't like it. There's a lot of things he doesn't like. I'm also told, I was having a conversation with someone in Washington at the Vancouver Caps game. On Sunday, we got into a conversation about room temperature at Rinks. And I remember Brian being very passionate about that in a. Anaheim specifically, what the temperature should be at. You know, the team president wants it to be nice and warm so the season ticket holders can take their jackets off.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Meanwhile, Brian wants to turn it into essentially a place where you can hang lamb in the corner to keep everything chilled. We're going to get Brian going on that one. Anyhow, welcome to the program, the sheet for this Tuesday, October 21st, and on the horizon, you're going to hear us gush and gushing, gush, and go on about it. We'll see the Rieks and the Hartford Whalers for one more time. In the meantime, let's have a look, we have on the show today. The blueprint is powered by Fanduel. Download the app today and play
Starting point is 00:08:46 your game. And coming up on today's edition of the sheet, we'll talk to a couple of different guests. We'll talk in moments here to Corey Lavalettes, who covers the Carolina Hurricanes. You've seen and heard him here before. We'll talk about the game last night where their five-game winning street came to the end at the hands of the Vegas Golden Knights. We'll talk about the return once again of the Hartford Whalers, this time playing the Quebec Nordiques and all things hurricane in the process. Devin Dubnick stops by. We'll talk about oilers issues. Where have the goals gone for this team? We'll talk about the canes. We'll talk about retro jerseys. Plenty about the oilers. And we should probably mention as well, Jonathan Taves, gets his first
Starting point is 00:09:24 goal as a member of the Winnipeg Jets last night. As the Winnipeg Jets beat the Calgary Flames, and I think now as we look at the calendar, specifically this week, the Calgary Flames find themselves last place in the NHL. They have a game against Montreal, then another game against the Winnipeg Jets. Could they take themselves out of the playoff picture in October? Already next week, it's Rangers and Maple Leafs and then Ottawa. Anywho, that's what's coming up on the program today.
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Starting point is 00:10:43 and the new season of Face Off, download the app or go to Prime Video.com. With that, we'll bring aboard Corey Lavalette. No stranger to this and other programs covering the Carolina Hurricanes. Corey, how are you, my friend? And first of all, before we get into what we saw last night in the game against Vegas, I'm an old guy. I was a WHA fan growing up. I remember going to Toronto's games as a kid with my dad.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Love the Hartford Whalers. We all did. Love the New England Whalers before that. And certainly the Quebec Nordiques as well. And we're going to see it once, twice, and we'll see the Hartford Willers a third time as well against the Utah mammoth. I put this out to start the show today.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Should the Utah mammoth in that heritage game against the Carolina Hurricanes slash Hartford Whalers wear Winnipeg Jets uniforms Let's do it I'm all for it Tom Dundins got some stroke in this league
Starting point is 00:11:41 Make it happen As long as it's the throwbacks Right I always I've still not not in love With the Jets not not going back You know I know they use them on occasion As a third jersey But I'd love for them to go back to the old logo
Starting point is 00:11:54 But yeah I'm all for it Have a portrait of the queen Up in the corner just like the old sale It would be wouldn't be fantastic Okay, just a quick thought on the Hartford Whalers facing off against the Quebec Nord-Aigs. Whenever this happens, like I understand the reaction in Quebec City. That logo, the Florida Lee, all of it is very sacred, certainly to that culture and that province, that hockey team, etc. And we all know about Hartford Whalers fans and how passionate they are.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Oh, and by the way, you know, it would be great if just for one day, The Carolina Hurricanes had their heritage classic night, the Whalers' Classic Night, the Whalers Heritage Night, against the Anaheim Ducks, just because Pat Verbeek was the guy that got Brian Burke to stop playing the Brass Bananza. And then after every hurricane's goal with Pat Verbeek in the arena, they could play Brass Bonanza once again. Anyhow, I digress. Just your thoughts on, you know, using these uniforms that are, you know, from a different era, from a different fan base, from a different tradition, albeit it still remains with the lineage of this team.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I'm sure you've thought about this. Do you have a thought on it? Yeah, sure. Yeah, I mean, my first NHL game was at the mall in Hartford. I grew up, you know, near Springfield, Mass. So I wasn't all that far from Hartford. So, you know, you want to sympathize with the people who lost their team. I was in Montreal this weekend and everybody's still wearing Expos hats.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's insane. They're selling Expos hats in the bell center, all that stuff. So you understand it. At the same time, it's fun, right? There's, you know, as far as logos and uniforms go, are there two that are any better than these two, really, especially the way they're going to contrast. And so, I mean, I love it. I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I, you know, have a little place in my heart for the whalers from back in the day. So I think it's great. But, I mean, you understand when a town loses a team and all that. It's tough, right? I mean, but it's the realities of business. I mean, there's not much you can say. I don't think looking back, I mean, the hurricanes have been in Carolina longer than they were the Whalers now. So, you know, still, it's hard to say it's an open wound anymore, I would say.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I still have scars. I'm sure, you know, I could put some therapist on the map earn he or she an international reputation, you know, tracing all the troubles in my life back to when the Toronto's moved to Birmingham. to become the Bulls. I think that set me up for a lifetime of disappointment and psychological wounds. But we'll not talk about that now. Okay, so the winning street comes to an end in Vegas yesterday and some pretty big moments.
Starting point is 00:14:42 The Dorothea goal was gorgeous. What Ivan Barbachev did to K. Andre Miller with a stick tap was something as well. What did, first of all, what did you take away from last night's game before we drill down on the canes so far this season? What were your takeaways from last night? I mean, the first thing that stands out to me is these are two really good teams that each didn't have two really good players. So we, you know, like I said, I was in Montreal, I went to Canadians Rangers. And while the Canadians are fun to watch, you know, you can, there's a level that teams like Vegas and Carolina are at that, you know, those teams are not at.
Starting point is 00:15:22 You can see it already this early in the season that there's a, there's a talent disparity and a, you know, just a team disparity. So the fact that these two teams played at such a high level, kind of a playoff style game, it was pretty tight the whole way, not a whole lot of, you know, back and forth,
Starting point is 00:15:41 except for maybe in the beginning of the game. The fact that they did that without Noah Hanofin, without Mark Stone, without Jacob Slavin, without Shane Gostas Bear, you know, really, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:54 really impressive. Even, you know, you know, Vegas being down to Akira Schmidt and net early in the game. The way he stepped in was really impressive. And that's a guy that got shelled by Carolina in the playoffs a couple years ago. So the fact that he was able to step in, be composed and win that game.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I thought it was a fun game even if it wasn't maybe the most exciting game we've seen this year. It's interesting to see how, you know, the level those two teams are at and the depth both teams have. It's the first time I've seen anybody, you know, really kind of match with Carolina's fourth line. depth-wise, the depth that Carolina has, you know, Vegas has it too. Vegas is scary up front. The stone injury really hurts. And obviously, you know, Petrangelo not available for minimum this season. And we wonder about the career. I mean, that's a, that's a crush or two. You don't, you don't replace that defender for the season and you don't have anyone
Starting point is 00:16:48 that can step in and be Mark Stone. But as for Carolina, I'm having a conversation with someone over the weekend. And we're talking about the history of Carolina, the recent. in history. We're not talking about like 10 years ago, but like the last couple of years of Carolina Hurricanes defensemen and what Carolina does with their defensemen. I was making the point that, you know, what, like Carolina Hurricanes really, really shine their defense and up really well. You know, Brady Shea, you know, cash is in big time after starring on that blue line. Brett Pesci does same with New Jersey Devils. And this person said something to me,
Starting point is 00:17:23 it's really, really got me thinking. So you said, it's not so much a matter of Carolina shining up their defensemen. It's more that Eric Tulski and before him Don Waddell will only go out there and get players that fit what Carolina is doing so naturally they're going to look better. Like if you're a big tough defender
Starting point is 00:17:47 that's used to, you know, cross-checks from hell every night in front of the net, you're not going to look good with Carolina. But if you're a little bit smaller and you can move your feet and you're athletic and you can think quickly, you're going to do great. So which one do you think it is?
Starting point is 00:18:03 They polish them up or are they only select the right bunch from the vine that can fit what Carolina is doing? How do you lean on that one? I mean, I think they kind of polish up anybody. I mean, you look at the guys they had the last couple years. You know, Dmitri Orloff and Brent Burns don't really fill kind of that bucket you mentioned, right. Kandre Miller is more
Starting point is 00:18:27 Jacob Slaven-like in his size and skating and length than a smaller guy. And they got, you know, you lose Brent Burns and Dimitri Orloff
Starting point is 00:18:38 and you're thinking, oh, they're going to get small because Orloff might not be a tall guy, but that's a thick, thick guy. But Keandre Miller,
Starting point is 00:18:47 really big, really long. Alexander Nikitian already looks like a man out there. A couple of mistakes last night, a couple of mistake against L.A. that almost cost him the game there, but really, really good upside there.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And then you see the way Sean Walker jumped in, and he's been, you know, great from the minute he got there. You know, he doesn't get a ton of ink except for maybe for me, because I've really noticed how well he's played and fit in and transitioned to playing. But, yeah, I mean, it's a shame that Shane Ghos Despair got hurt because he was having a great start to the season for the second year in a row. and obviously anytime you're missing Jacob Slaven is tough but the fact that they are where they are
Starting point is 00:19:27 you know last year they played almost the entire season with the same 3D pairings they were very fortunate not to have injuries this year they haven't had those pairings together really at all that they plan to have to start the season so that's made it a little you know a little tougher how good can Logan Stancoven be with this team yeah I think how good can can Centerman
Starting point is 00:19:52 Logan Stankhoven be with this team? Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing for Rod, Brenda Moore, right, is do you have the heart and will to go battle? And there's no doubt that that guy's got the heart and will to battle. We saw it in the playoffs last year. He gets into a scrum with Tom Wilson, maybe not the best business decision in the world. But he's scrappy.
Starting point is 00:20:15 He's shifty. He plays tough. He obviously can shoot the puck really well. That line has been really good. You know, it started off with Andre Setschnikoff, and then Taylor Hall had his good start to the year, and he moved opposite of Jackson Blake, and they've really, really dominated territorially. The goals maybe have, you know, the points and goals haven't really been there yet. You know, I think Jackson Blake's got four points.
Starting point is 00:20:40 So, you know, Taylor Hall's got four points, but nothing outrageous yet. But even last night, I mean, if your concern is, can Logan Stankhoven handle playing against bigger centers. I mean, how much hurdles a moose. And, you know, they had a good night last night, despite the end result. I thought they were, you know, they were pretty effective. Even if you don't get on the scoreboard, if you can tilt the ice your team's way, you know, you set yourself up for good opportunities. You know, there's a, there's a name out there that I keep thinking about with this Hurricanes team.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Now, the one thing that I think we should all get used to if we're not used to it already is Eric Tolski, taking swings, right? And this is another go-for-a-year for the Carolina Hurricanes. We're going to have a number of go-for-it years, as we all know. The one, and, I mean, so many teams are looking for centers at this point. Calgary Flames were in a bad way. They've really started out poorly. I don't think
Starting point is 00:21:36 it's going to get any better this week with games against Montreal and Winnipeg, and then it's the Rangers that Maple Leafs, the Ottawa Senators next week. They may find themselves outside of the playoff picture as we move to November, but I digress. Carolina is one of those teams that's again looking for another center
Starting point is 00:21:53 do you think that as we describe and think about players that can play with Rod Brindamore's system and how he wants to play Stanley Cup experience as well do you think that Nazim Kadri would fit on the Carolina Hurricanes well I mean I think he would bring
Starting point is 00:22:11 a little something that the hurricanes lack right they're not the feistyest team in the league They got a little bit of it. You know, when Will Carey is healthy, he's an absolute handful to deal with. And he's been really good to start the year. But, you know, for all the things that Logan Stankhoven does well, he's not the kind of guy who's going to get in there and push guys around in the postseason, right? I mean, he's not the, he's not blessed with the size to do that. So, yeah, I mean, and it's not like you can't move Logan Stankhoven back to the wing.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And, you know, they're really loaded up. front right now, right? I mean, Mark Jankowski should probably be playing. You know, it's surprising they can have a guy like that as their 13th forward. You know, when you have Andre Svechnikoff and Yes, Barry Coak and Yemi playing on your fourth line, and Eric Robinson, I should mention him too, although he's maybe more of a, you know, traditional fourth line player. He's been really good, too. I mean, they are, they're so deep up front and, you know, adding another forward. The question is, is what what does you know what does calgary want back you know if bradling the doke couldn't make this team out of camp who are who are you pushing out for a nassan cadre obviously you know
Starting point is 00:23:25 obviously you can scratch eric robinson but you know there's there's identity stuff that rod brindamore really buys into whether it's penalty killing or even strength play and they love what somebody like him does so if you're going to come and fit in you have to you know we saw it would miko ranting it didn't he didn't really fit in right um you know i'm sure they would have still loved to sign him we saw what he did in the playoffs and everything but um you know i think there has to be a fit with identity too but yeah that's a guy who's um you know a proven stanley cup champion and uh can get a little feisty and can put points on the board okay last one for you um the answer to this for me is kevin denine i'm curious what your answer is your
Starting point is 00:24:09 favorite Carolina or sorry your favorite Hartford Whaler ever oh man I mean that's a tough one Jeff Sanderson was a was a fun one to watch for me really uh yeah speedy guy uh he was fun to watch uh for the young people that's Jake Sanderson's dad right yeah right let's let's on date ourselves too bad um so yeah he was always a a fun guy i mean kevin denine obviously uh that's great absolute moose ron francis is you know a legend and you know you feel fortunate that his career was able to move past just being a great player on a mediocre team uh and then zarlie zalapski might be the you know top three best name in hockey history so going going away him and bob beers you got a bob beers are like zalapski man the old names are the
Starting point is 00:25:06 best. Epson Canootson, all those. Oh, geez, Columbus Blue Jacket, great. Epson Canutson. Oh, man, I haven't heard that name in years. Oh, Corey, you just made my day. Had my day made a few different times here. The announcement this morning, the Nord's versus the whalers,
Starting point is 00:25:20 and now we've got an Epson Canootson drop on the program. Life's good. Corey, continued success. You're the man. We want to know about the Keynes we call you. Thanks for doing this every time. Absolutely. Hey, yeah, good job shot out those equipment guys,
Starting point is 00:25:33 because, I mean, these days they're taking taking logos off helmets and switching numbers style. I mean, they're doing all sorts of stuff. They've got a back-to-back coming up where I think they have to change the style of the numbers on the back of the helmet on an overnight flight across the country. So I could just picture them on the plane with them all laid out, just scraping off stickers. So good on you to mention, you know, George Alves and Patrick Buds and Nick Roy and all those guys that all good guys
Starting point is 00:26:05 who are working their tails off to make sure the teams look good. You always look after the people that look after you. Whenever I go on to a set, Corey, I do the same thing. I go and I think and shake the hands of all the camera operators. And then after, you go to the control room. Or if you're on the road, you go
Starting point is 00:26:21 to the truck right away as as soon as you're done, because those people can make you look great or they can completely bury you. So always take care of your equipment managers, hockey players. Yes, sir. Take care of the people behind the microphone,
Starting point is 00:26:36 except for Zach, my producer. That guy doesn't know his ass from page six. Anyway, all right, thanks, Corey. We'll talk soon, pal. Enjoying those uniforms tomorrow, or Thursday, rather. It'll be fun. It'll be a good time.
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Starting point is 00:29:15 We were staying at a cottage on Lake Joseph here in Muscoca, watching the Live 8 music festival in Barry on television. My buddy Jeremy Taggart, former drummer from Our Lady Peace, dropped by after his band's set and stayed the rest of the weekend at the cottage after the band's set and talked. told some incredible backstage stories about some amazing Canadian music icons. I will never forget that. And fast forward to today, I'm a hockey parent, and I feel like I'm always on the road with my family, whether that means traveling across southern Ontario hockey ranks during the week or overnight at tournaments on select weekends.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But what makes our hockey experience even more special is booking a place on Airbnb when we're on the road for overnight tournaments. All of this traveling got me to thinking, my home's just sitting empty when I could be hosting it on Airbnb instead. I'd simply put up my house on Airbnb, pre-select dates that I want to host, bam, it's practical, easy to manage, and it enables people like me to make some money while they're not at home. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca slash host. A couple of things there. I'm trying to choose which player I'm going to tell. So, Corey mentioned Jeff Sanderson.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Hey, Zach. I was just kidding about all that stuff. You're great. You want to, even though it doesn't know his ass from page six. You want to hear a good Jeff Sanderson story? Of course you do. This is Jake Sanderson's dad. You might like this as a hockey player.
Starting point is 00:30:59 So Jeff Sanderson is a story. story goes, use three different hockey sticks in every game. Do I know why? If I tell you a hockey player, use three different sticks in a game, and I said, tell me why he did that. What would you say?
Starting point is 00:31:18 Well, now is different than what I'm assuming your answer is going to be. Now I know a lot of these guys, it's like the crispness of the stick and whether or not they feel fresh or whatever. But I cannot imagine that's the reason why he was doing that. No, no. So he would use a regular length stick for the first period.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And then as this is back in the days when like fatigue was a thing in the NHL, fatigue doesn't exist in the NHL anymore. You're as fresh at the end as you are at the beginning. That's for another conversation. How do we introduce more fatigue in the game? He would use a regular length stick in the first period. And then as he would get more tired, he'd use a little bit smaller of a stick in the second. And then an even smaller stick in the third because that would force him to
Starting point is 00:32:01 bend his knees in the third period and not just straight leg it later in the game his stick would progressively get smaller all game long do you zach phillips have a thought on that i think that's hilarious but i think that i i can't i mean i can't believe that that was a thing like i get it i get the logic of it i understand where he's coming from it's hilarious to think that that was a real thing that was happening with NHL players player, an NHL player. Like, we're watching,
Starting point is 00:32:40 you just thinking about like we're watching this game, the speed, the pace, the intricacies of the game itself. And here's a guy who is like cutting his stick shorter between periods. No, he would have three different lengths of stick. I know, I know. Oh, yeah, I'll be right there, coach, chopping down his stick between the second and third period.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But like going, he's going from one. to the next to the next as the game goes on. Yeah. That's hilarious. Force himself to bend his knees. Guys doing that now. On that, I mean, just a brief, like, side note on that, you see McKinnon, he said he uses about 400 sticks a year.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's, I know. Okay, let me ask you this question. If they had to pay for their own sticks, how many sticks a year do you think the guys would be using? well I mean I think those guys like a guy like McKinnon would probably still use about the same because if you do the math on it I think it's like around like I did it the other day so it's approximately $160,000 a year I assuming a stick comes in at about 400 for these guys like retail price so I think McKinnon is still going to do that you know it's the whole concept of like LeBron James he says he spends $3 million a year on his body I'm thinking McKinman Ken and still doing it. Now, do I think that Pontus Holmberg or, you know. What do you have to pick on Pontus for?
Starting point is 00:34:08 You have a pick on poor Pontus Homeberg. There's the first one that came to my mind. He was the first thing that came to my mind. Yeah, because when I think of Nathan McKin, I right away also think about Pontus Holmberg. Well, I'm going to the opposite end. I know, I know. You think the direct opposite. Salary, salary.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Oh, okay. All right, all right, all right. Salary, salary. Okay. I'm trying to think the number financially, Jeff, is what I'm going at. not player quality. I'm thinking financials. He's not going to be doing that.
Starting point is 00:34:34 This is what gives the NHL its equilibrium and its balance. You know, I once was told, I don't know if this is true. So I'm just going to put it out there. And someone's smarter than me, he's going to tell me whether it's true or not. Thinking about balancing things out, everything in the universe has its own smell, its own scent. Okay. And it's usually produced by two offsetting scents that give it that equilibrium that makes something smell the way that it does. I was told years and years ago
Starting point is 00:35:00 that the offsetting scent for the smell of death is cinnamon. Cinnamon. And now every time I smell cinnamon, I think of death. This was told me like my early 20s at university.
Starting point is 00:35:19 It's one of my profs. I don't know, but every time I say like, we'll do like, you know what I'm talking about, right? Like two different scents offset each other, that the offsetting scent for death offsetting scent for death is cinnamon. I'm just putting it out there
Starting point is 00:35:31 because I think someone's going to probably tell me whether I'm on base or off base on this one or not. So when my dad kills Volz in the backyard and then accidentally leaves them in the garage in the green bin for like a week of cinnamon in the garage? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Balances out the scent. I'm telling you. That's what this podcast is just going to turn into. Shit that Merrick was told that he believes. It would be pretty entertaining. for a bit at least It's like Did you ever used to watch MythBusters?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Oh God, yeah. Nothing about Hogg. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're just testing that except we have no, no, nobody to push back on it
Starting point is 00:36:12 other than the chat who's probably like, oh, that sounds good. You know what? I pitched at the old place. I pitched for years. Maybe I'll do it here. Find some time.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Everybody else. there don't take this idea she's a trade market you know what I always want it to do hockey myth busters a hockey myth busters segment of all the stuff that we've been lied to about all the things that are wrong like you know I were just talking about the uh the Gordy Howe Hatrick before the before the show first ever Gordy Howe Hatrick wasn't Gordy Howe I assure you was Harry Cameron 1917 right for your Toronto team by the way you should know that it's a Toronto fan Paras for you don't. Yeah, so you go out of the box, you feel ashamed.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I always wanted to do a hockey mythfusser segment. So just basically taking like these things that we believe to be true. Lies, you can, no, you can call them what they are. Yeah, lies. Lies that we've been told about hockey for a lot. Original six is another great one. What? Unless you're part of their marketing division, you should not be using that term.
Starting point is 00:37:23 What did, what did, I texted you about that the other day. the Rangers and the Leafs played And you said original six I treat you like a worker Paul Morris's voice Yes yes A love Love Paul Morris's voice
Starting point is 00:37:36 Do it every time Two Not the original six So I typed Two Montreal teams One of them had the rink burn down So they just stopped playing Toronto and Ottawa
Starting point is 00:37:47 I typed original six Yeah deleted it And then it was like Are you serious And I rewrote original six Just to piss me off. Why don't you send along, like, the lyrics from the hockey song while you're at it?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Hello out there. Oh, fuck. Seriously. If you really wanted to have a... This is what Zach does. He has a couple of drinks and he starts texting me just to piss me off. No, no, no, no, no. Because I was working.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Because I'm easy that way. I was very serious. One thing in the sort of spirit of hockey history here today, the Pavolder, if you have goal last night against the Carolina Hurricanes is, gorgeous. And as Colby Cohen mentioned on Morning Cup of Hockey this morning, making it even more difficult to play is that he's got a player draped all over him. I want to get to Devin Dubinic here, but can we show this really quickly? So show me the Pavel Dorofiev goal from last night. And it's the goal that we sort of all agree to call the Forsberg. Even though, much in the same
Starting point is 00:38:50 spirit of Harry Cameron was the first I have the Gordie Howe Hattrick, it wasn't invented by Peter Forsberg. Now, he did it against Corey Hirsch at the Olympics, and that's what made it, you know, popular, but he wasn't the first to do it. The first to do it was one of my favorite hockey players, a Swede, who played for both, well, he's named, Devin Dubnix coming on a second, played for the Oilers, got chopped by Ron Hexol in 87, played with the Calgary Flames.
Starting point is 00:39:17 He's one of the best skilled players of all times. He scored in 1989, the World Hockey Championships, Sweden versus USA and have a look at this beauty by the Magic Man, Kent Nilsson. This is 1989. And there it is, what we now call the Forzburg. But that was 1989. Can we not please call it the Kenta or the Magic Man or something like that? Look at this beauty.
Starting point is 00:39:46 John Van Biesburg, no idea what to do on that call. Just bites hard. Kent Nilsson, making it look easy. gloves at all breaking like breaking a stick the white gloves i love oh no the white gloves you you know what i dare you man take white gloves out to beer league tonight and then come back and show me your wrists no shot that is not happening i will not be doing that i did wear white gloves one year but i think that was a i believe that was a team decision to do that i can't remember why but we wore white gloves or a lot of us um
Starting point is 00:40:23 Okay. Well, excellent with that. With that, let's bring aboard Devin Dubnick. Now Euler's analyst, former NHL goaltender. Actually, I do want to open up by asking Devin about the Foresburg or the Kent Nilsson. Devin Dubin joins me here on the sheet. Devin, first of all, thanks so much for being patient and let me show the Forzburg move there once with Pavl Dorofiev and then with Kent Nilsson on John Van Biesburg back in 1989. Do you remember the first time anyone tried that on you? Oh, geez, I can't remember the first time anyone tried it on me.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's a great move. It doesn't look great when it doesn't work. Yes. So you got to sell to the glove side. And Dorothea does actually an unbelievable job. When you watch the slow motion replay, how far he gets out to the glove side. And the goalie has no choice but to go and for him to be able to bring it back. That's really the key to the move is selling the forehand that you're going that way and being able to bring it back without getting caught up in the goalie sticker.
Starting point is 00:41:21 equipment. It's a very, very dangerous move if you can execute it properly, but it takes a lot of skill to do it, especially at speed. At speed, you got to get in real tight and you see Van Beesbrook go up for the poke shack and Nelson pulls the puck away. You know, I remember when UC Yokinen was scoring a bazillion goals doing that, and I always said to myself, does it have to be a smaller goaltender that it works on because a larger goaltender can seal up everything low really fast? Was I just naive enough to think that he's only doing it with small goalies? No, I mean, it gives us an advantage, obviously, with the legs. It just means you've got to sell it more.
Starting point is 00:41:56 You have to make the goalie commit. If the goalie doesn't fully commit to the move to the forehand, it's easier for them to then obviously stretch and get the far side. So it will be more difficult on a taller goalie, but it can be done. I mean, Freddie Anderson's a big boy. Yes, he is. Beautiful goal by him.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yes, night. Okay, so here becomes the question. In Edmonton, I'm scratching my head. I was on with Jason Greger on DFO rundown on Sunday night, and we were having this discussion, and I was having a talk with someone who said, you know, one of the issues with Edmonton, he thinks that this guy I was talking to.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I think that they shoot too much from the points. They have three defensemen that are top 15 and shots per 60. You can understand Evan Bouchard being there. That's one of his calling cards, but there's no reason for Matthias Ekholm to be shooting as much as he is. There's no reason for Darnell Nurse to be shooting as much as he is. Do you have a theory? on where the goals have gone for the Edmonton Oilers?
Starting point is 00:42:54 No, I think, I mean, if there was a magic answer, then I'd be in a different position. But, you know, I think sometimes when teams are struggling, scoring, you can see where they'll start to just hammer pox of the net. You know, they want to get greasy ones. They want to get it off a shin pad. Just kind of create havoc and maybe get a couple ugly goals and get the ball rolling.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And I think, you know, in the Oilers case, it can have a neck. negative effect because they have so much talent up front and the creativity in the offense and that's where they create goals. Obviously, goals can come from the point, but when you start to have that driving the offense,
Starting point is 00:43:32 you know, it can take away because you got, you know, your dry sidels and Hopkins and McDavid, those guys aren't grind, get to the front of the net, get hit by slap shots from the point and tip puck's in and greasy rebounds. Of course, they'll get them, but that's not
Starting point is 00:43:48 where the offense comes from. So, So it can, you know, especially when you got a shot like Bouchard, you want to use that when it's available, but it can't be driving your offense when really the skill up front is what's going to drive your offense. So I think when goals are hard to come by, you can see that trend. Will they'll start to shoot more from the blue line. But in the Oilers case, you certainly don't want to be, you know, no knocks on Eckholm or nurse, but those point shots are not nearly as effective as having the big.
Starting point is 00:44:19 big boys handle it down low. And I don't know where this changed, but it seems as if, you know, more and more defensemen aren't, they're not, they're not shooting to score. They're shooting for tips or they're shooting for rebounds. Do you find that that is very much a thing now in the NHL? Like very few, there's very few of the, the Shea Weber's of the world that, you know, you could rely on just to blast in a couple of dozen goals every year, just hammering it from the point.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Whereas now guys are just trying to get it through just for a tip or just to create a a rebound in front. Yeah, and it's a skill. You don't see that as much. I mean, Bouchard's one of those guys that could hammer one in from the point. But I think there's a combination, too, of, you know, you add speed and skill into the game, which obviously has happened. And guys are quick to get in shot lanes.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And so they'll get in front and they'll get in the way and they're quick to get there. So it's a skill to create a shot lane. And you see the best defenseman, Mikhail McCarves, Quinn Hughes, these guys. where, you know, they're sifting them through. They're finding the lanes. They're moving how they need to move. And then their ability to get good pace on the shot, maybe off balance a little bit. You know, that's hard to do too.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I don't know if you've ever grabbed a puck at the blue line and tried to move with your body open and wrist one to the net. You know, I know mine's not getting there in the air. So it's a difficult thing to do. And the best guys do it. But they just kind of find those lanes. And sometimes they just make their way all the way in. You can see some of the great shots. They'll just find a way through.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But really, they're just trying to find a lane for that park to get to the net and see what happened. You know, what happened. to the summer of 2005. We were staying at a cottage on Lake Joseph here in Muscoca watching the Live 8 Music Festival in Barry on television. My buddy Jeremy Taggart, former drummer from Our Lady Peace,
Starting point is 00:46:33 dropped by after his band's set and stayed the rest of the weekend at the cottage after the band set and told some incredible backstage stories about some amazing Canadian music icons. I will never forget that. And fast forward to today, I'm a hockey parent.
Starting point is 00:46:49 and I feel like I'm always on the road with my family, whether that means traveling across southern Ontario hockey ranks during the week or overnight at tournaments on select weekends. But what makes our hockey experience even more special is booking a place on Airbnb when we're on the road for overnight tournaments. All of this traveling got me to thinking, my home's just sitting empty when I could be hosting it on Airbnb instead. I'd simply put up my house on Airbnb, pre-select dates that I want to host, bam.
Starting point is 00:47:22 It's practical, easy to manage, and it enables people like me to make some money while they're not at home. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca slash host. Am I overthinking this with the Oilers trying to reach for all these reasons, why they don't look like that same team that normally we see, you know, as the calendar flips. And maybe this is just Occam's razor. And I just need to say to myself, you know, there's two teams that go to the Stanley Cup
Starting point is 00:47:57 final. We only talk about the Stanley Cup hangover with the team that won. You know, you win the Stanley Cup. One team goes to the bar. The other goes to therapy. But they've still played in the Stanley Cup final. I think it might just be fatigue at the end of it. These guys put a lot of games in the last two years.
Starting point is 00:48:13 It can be for sure. and it's two years in a row of a lot of games. And, you know, look at the Florida Panthers. Obviously, they've got injury issues big time, but they're struggling a little bit right now too. So everybody's human, and there's no, you can try all you want, you can talk about it. It's very hard to get that level of urgency up when you've been to the highest level of urgency
Starting point is 00:48:38 two years in a row all the way into June to just get it up at the start of the year. and then, you know, the road trips and the back-to-back games and just trying to feel that importance of these games at the start is a difficult thing to do for a group that has mostly been all the way for two years in a row. So, you know, in saying that, they've got to find a way to do it, but it's a real thing that these guys, you know, when things, if things start off well in the season, it's easier to free flowing. but when things, you know, they're struggling offensively and defensively like this, you're going to have to find that urgency sooner rather than later. They will get reinforcements eventually here. Zach Hyman, you know, we talk about, you know, greasy goals and two-foot goals. You know, that's his bailiwick.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Like, that's where he lives, Matiasianmark on the horizon as well. With Hyman, you've seen this before. You've been on teams like this when you're in a slump and you're having a hard time scoring goals. It's generally not going to be like the 60-foot. laser beam wrist shot that starts to get you out of your funk. It's just tapping in raccoon goals around the net. Phil Esposito, Tim Kerr, Dino Cicerelli, Thomas Holstrom, tell me when to stop, those style of goals.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And look, man, that's where Zach Heimann lives. And those are his kind of goals. Is it just a matter of time until things turn around? They just need, like, they just, essentially what I'm saying is, do you think they just really miss Zach Heimann? Well, they do. They did when he was out in the playoffs last year as well. It was a noticeable change because he just,
Starting point is 00:50:08 He brings those intangibles to the game. You know, he has skill to do, to score incredible goals, but he's going to go out there and he's going to lay the body and he's going to go to the net. He's going to grind. He's going to create chaos. And when you add a piece like that to the lineup, it has a trickle-down effect kind of throughout the lineup.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Guys slot into different places. And it can certainly free things up. It can free up other guys, skill guys. it just can create more room on the ice if you've got a guy rolling out there all the time, crashing the neck, causing havoc, kind of opening things up. It can actually open things up for other lines as well. So certainly it's going to be a very welcome addition when Zach Hyman comes back. Quick thought on Jake Wallman.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I mean, I love this guy. I love him. Yeah, I think he showed his worth last year in the playoffs. Not only, you know, he brings offense with him, but he's also, he's an energy guy. and he plays hard defensively and he blocks shots and he's he's got a great two-way game and I think the speed element of his game and his mobility fits right in with how the Oilers play and you know that's a that's a big part of it is moving pucks up the ice but also the ability to skate up the ice as a defenseman and move around the zone is a big part of emity you got
Starting point is 00:51:30 you got to be able to play with that speed of the guys up front hey last question for you I'm curious just in your own history I just rattle off a bunch of names of you know guys that lived in front of goaltenders who did you hate to try to fight a screen through like who did you just like oh this i got to fight through a screen this guy's here like who is the worst for you who did you just hate standing in front of you oh uh i'm gonna go i'm gonna go off script here a little bit there was one two guys i could think of that weren't necessarily guys all the time but um one guy that always threw me off because i being as tall i am i used always look over everybody so you know a guy would stand in front of me
Starting point is 00:52:07 it would matter. I'd stand behind him. I can look over a shoulder. And I played point shots basically very upright. And Martin Hansel would stand in front of me. And he was the same height as me. And I would kind of be looking and being like, oh, I can't see anything. And so I had to because his shoulders were at my eye level. And I had to change the way I played point shots. He would stand in front of the net in Arizona on the power play. And I had to start getting low and looking around because the way I did things wasn't working with him in front. So he was always a little difficult. But my first year in the league, actually, Keith Kachukh, Walt was in front of me.
Starting point is 00:52:45 And I used to, you know, my dad taught me growing up, like, a guy wants to stand in front of you, make him pay for it, give him wax, push him out of the way, push him in the back. And my first game in St. Louis, Kuch was standing in front of me. And I went to give him a real good shove in the back, throw him off balance, get him out of the way. And, I mean, it was like pushing a wall. I didn't, I might as well have put my hands into a brick wall and push backwards. There was just no movement on the skates, no nothing. He was there.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And it was in my head, it was kind of like, all right, Mr. Kachuk, this is your ice. I'll work around you from here. Thank you, sir. Can I get anything for you? Is you dry cleaning ready? Can I go pick that up? Anything you need, Mr. Kachuk. Yeah, don't mind me.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I'll be back here doing my thing, but you just stay right there. Yeah, yeah, don't worry. Nice and comfy for you. I'll bring you out a pillow, just set up camp there, no problem. You're fine. This has been great. Devin, thanks so much for sharing your expertise. Well, have another look at the Oilers tonight. I mean, it's another big game for the Edmonton Oilers this evening,
Starting point is 00:53:43 facing off against the Ottawa Center as a team that has their own issues, keeping pucks out of the net and getting to the back of the other teams outside of Shane Pinto. Devin, thanks for this. Much appreciated. We'll check back soon. All right. Thanks so much. All right, there is Devin Dubnick, analyst for the Edmonton. There's that segment, by the way, a presentation of Bauer and the Brower Pro-Sharp Advent Edge. at-home sharpener gives you ability to sharpen your skates with pro-level precision at the touch of a button. Leveraged by decades of progressive innovation, this machine is designed to be as
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Starting point is 00:55:04 you kind of have this a little bit of it when you play like men's league and stuff every now and then but like when i was younger i was really small like i was a very small player did not weigh very much i was on the uh four meals a day five protein shake kind of tight and still couldn't put it on let's get the weight on and it would be like nice i've done this every day i feel sick every day and i've gained one pound in the last three weeks kind of stuff but um when you're trying to box out a big guy and you go to push him and all of a sudden you're like oh you're not going anywhere like I had I played against like Sean Day and at that point I think I was probably oh and he was massive then too he was massive when he was 13 corner battle you go to like push the guy over to
Starting point is 00:55:51 get positioning and you're like okay I'll see what I can do with my stick now oh I can't lift his stick up either oh he's like gordie how with this thing or Pavel that's like oh wonderful yeah oh that's just great Do you think I can slide under there? Is that a way? Can I get in there that way? No, he's like Povalov. You're not going to get that.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Frustrating. Like, you're just not going to be able to get in there, do anything. And you're like, okay, well, I've got to find a different way now. I'm just going to paint myself orange and stand here. Yeah, exactly. What's the difference? What's the difference between Zach Phillips and a pylon? Oh, the pylon doesn't bite on the toe drag.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Boom. Hockey jokes here on the program here today on this Tuesday, October the 21st. Glad to have you aboard today. A couple things I want to go over from last night. Anything from last night, really catch right. We'll play that Pavl Dorofiev goal, which was an absolute thing of beauty. The Barbashev goal was brilliant, too. Man, that guy is.
Starting point is 00:56:50 We talked about strong hockey players. What Barboshev did yesterday, the Kay Andre Miller was just brute. I mean, it was smart and just like Brutes, How you knock Kandre Miller down like that with a stick-tap? I'm at a loss for words because Miller is a big strong defenseman. Jonathan Taves with his first goal as a member of the Winnipeg Jets. That was real special. Calgary Flames lose another one.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Like, are you with me? I was on with Tyler and Hutz on the noon show. And we were talking about, you know, what teams to just say screw it, we're going for Gavin McKenna? to me the answer is the Calgary Flames. They may get their own answer this week in these next couple of games, but I look at this Calgary Flames team
Starting point is 00:57:37 and we're reminded that this is a team that came from Atlanta in 1980 and the highest they've ever picked in the NHL draft is fourth. And that was Sam Bennett in 2012. They've never had a top three pick. And there's Gavin McKenna sitting there. Like, give yourself the best chance for Gavin McKenna. Like, this is a team that right now and for the foreseeable future, they cannot score.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And the last thing you want it to be chasing wins now and then not really begin any type of significant rebuild until the new rink is open. And we've seen what's happened with it at Tred Red Wings every year. The new ring's open and no one's going after April 7th or 8th because the season's done. and the rank just sits there. That's not what you want. Yeah, I'm on the same page as you, by the way, here with Calgary for sure. It's also, if you are given these signs this early,
Starting point is 00:58:41 like last year there was at least the, you know, the magic wand that was waved over them where it was like, okay, it looks better than what it is kind of thing, and it's a little bit more fun, it's competitive, whatever, like let's give them a chance. And you can give some of your young guys an opportunity to kind of have that experience of the competitive hockey. You have, used as an example, Nazim Kadri and Rasmus Anderson,
Starting point is 00:59:04 those are the two that stand out, obviously, right? There's probably some other pieces. Blake Coleman as well throw in there. But those pieces are the ones that are the obvious ones. And last year they kind of hung on, you can get rid of them, get them in a trade now and get rid of them. it's not maybe the right way to put it
Starting point is 00:59:26 you can use them in a trade now yeah i i view it maybe it's not the same way out there you tell me if i'm wrong but i view it as a positive where it's a win-win for the teams where the team that gets them now gets an extended period of time with the player to adapt to the team the system the coached the players that are around rather than tossing it in we know sometimes that doesn't work
Starting point is 00:59:46 when a guy gets moved out of trade deadline yeah uh on the other side if you're calgary you don't have to worry about a cadre or an Anderson or Coleman giving you wins that you do not want there are times where I feel like there's an Asim Kadri just by a sheer competitive nature of who he is where he's never going to show up and take a night off he might just accidentally will you to a win
Starting point is 01:00:16 and you're sitting there in the GM's office and you're like you know you're the front office like we maybe we didn't need that overtime loss and just picking up that point for no reason you know late in the third the goalie made uh that save yeah we really don't need that we could have done without that one tonight but i i think it kind of like helps you with that and you know maybe then you also can get a little bit more of a package coming back because cadre with an extra 40 games or 25 games maybe even to just not be as generous with them maybe that brings you a little bit more in return which is just everybody wins like we're all happy here we're all shake hands and say thank you and everybody yeah keep it moving
Starting point is 01:01:09 anyway that is the uh that's the flames tough schedule around the horizon montreal and then win a peg again this week um we shall see ucapec Lucan, by the way, as we've been discussing here over the past couple of weeks on the program, conditioning stint with Rochester of the American Hockey League. Why is that significant? Why is that significant? Because now the Buffalo Sabres have three goaltenders, each on one-way contracts in the American Hockey League. if you're my if you're if you're if you're if you're if you're the
Starting point is 01:01:47 the coach there is um it's actually he's a really good coach michael leone is is the coach there i i really feel for him because now he's got levi he's got yorgiev and now he's got ukapakalukinen on a conditioning stint. Here you go. He's looking around going,
Starting point is 01:02:16 what hell do you want me to do with this? And I'll tell you, I'll see looking around going, what am I, what's going on here is Devin Levi. And we've talked about that too, but the co-tending situation continues. He gets the text that UPL's coming
Starting point is 01:02:32 and he calls Kevin and says, are there two nets? How many pucks are we playing with? Are there more than one net as a game changed here? Anywho, so there's that situation. By the way, file this under the category of you didn't need to do this. Ryan Worsowski, the head coach of the San Jose Sharks, apologizing for his comment about,
Starting point is 01:02:54 I'd trade my kids for a win. Yeah. No one thought you were serious. You don't need to apologize. You don't need to apologize for that. Yeah. I get the frustration. level like you don't know
Starting point is 01:03:08 no one thought really you're surrendering children for a win in the NHL look if you're somebody who was upset by him saying that go outside problems you good breath touch grass
Starting point is 01:03:22 touch some grass butt look at the sky go for a walk go for a walk yeah like you're stop watching it'll be okay it'll be okay it'll be your laptop go for a walk
Starting point is 01:03:33 touch some grass have a drink of water get early night's sleep like that's ridiculous the fact that he felt the need to apologize for that it's like you're okay man it's all good it's tough sledding there it's tough sled I feel bad for Huska in Calgary
Starting point is 01:03:55 I feel bad for Rossovsky in San Jose anything from last night for you before I move on to tonight Tonight we got some juicy stuff. Tonight we're right back into 10 games. Here we go. Don't leave. Don't leave.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Watch hockey only. I wish that I could give you some real answer about the games that I watch. Like normally I am watching all of them. I was at the JAS game last night. So that took up most of my night. I watched highlights. I tried to catch up on everything. Like I never want to go into the next day blind.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I get it. You hit the main touch point. points of things I saw. Okay. Barbishev, Dorofaev, Taves, you checked the boxes. Like, I, that's it for me. Okay, so let me ask you a question that many, many probably in the chat and, and many watching slash listening are wondering about right now, too.
Starting point is 01:04:51 When did the swelling go down after the end of the game? At what point did the swelling go down? No, no, no. I, uh, I, I, I didn't drink during the game. Uh, and then I actually just went out for drinks, like, some celebratory beers with my buddies after it was not like a crazy night Tyler and Hutz were there No I didn't end up seeing them I actually I had I would have gone and seen them
Starting point is 01:05:13 But the reason that I ended up going to the game Is one of my buddies from New York Flew in just for the game Oh yeah And so we went out with him and his friend who came And like some of my Some of my friends that were here in town as well Going to the game so I ended up sticking around with them
Starting point is 01:05:31 But yes I did text them during the game as well yeah i'm glad you got that experience that must have been a lot of fun i've never ever in my life experienced something like that uh in person i've had experiences watching you know the bautice the bat flip and the incarnation walk off with friends which is obviously very cool but like that i'm going to remember that for the rest of my life like of course nuts nuts the sound in there when that happened it was you couldn't hear yourself think it was insane we we got to sit luckily my buddy got us some great tickets jeff so we got to sit on some really cool seats it was mayhem everybody was basically running around the aisles jumping up and down grabbing each other
Starting point is 01:06:26 like crazy crazy super cool or you could do what i did and watch like the wild and the rangers and the Habs and the Swords and Seattle, Philadelphia, that you won't remember. Which I also enjoyed doing. I don't know if I'm going to remember last night, like for the rest of my life, watching Berkeley Caton get his first assist in the NHL. I'm going to think fondly about that for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 01:06:50 That or a George Springer blast. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Watching the Dorofi of goal against Carolina, you know. Yeah, it's pretty much had similar nights. pretty much had similar nights. I just couldn't pass that up.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I get it. I get it. Amazing opportunity. So, yeah. Glad you had that experience. I think that's life, man. Just go have great sports experience. Just go have fun.
Starting point is 01:07:17 That's awesome. You got to be part of that. And I was glad that Carter and Tyler could both be part of that too from our group here. So that's wonderful. Even though they're maybe still a little bit banged up at DIA and DFO alive here today is. I have one of those like wake up and bite the dog back mornings. just level yourself out for the rest of the day. Well, part of what I was thinking, I was like, A, I had to work.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I was up early this morning working, so that was part of it. But also, I was like, I want to remember every single part of this. Like, not that I was just going to go there and be not able to see anymore. You know, I'm not getting myself to that point. But I wanted to just, like, soak in the entire moment and have every single part of it, like something I would remember. forever, which mission accomplished. It wasn't one of those
Starting point is 01:08:06 call up your wife and say, send the kids to the neighbors. Daddy's coming home drunk. Was it one of those nights? Okay, good. No. All right. Very, very good. Glad you were curious yet well behaved. Well done, Zach. Well done. The sheet, back to hockey.
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Starting point is 01:09:18 because there was more brilliance at a Brad Marchand yesterday. Yeah. So I actually ended up going and finding some cool stuff that they have on Fanduel for today, especially with 10 games, because I thought it was going to be, It's an interesting way to do it with this many games on the board. Fandals posted Puck Drop Specials. This is player with the most shots on goal for the day. I had no idea that they had this.
Starting point is 01:09:49 So these are just five of the guys that were at the top of the board. There's more on there. But Matthews, Forsberg, McKinnon, Hughes, and Pasternac is the top five. Matthews leading plus 1,200, and it goes down. I just thought these were fun. And I never knew that they posted them. I came across them here today. Puck drop specials.
Starting point is 01:10:07 They've also got some other stuff on here, Jeff, which I'll just point out, which I also wanted to kind of add because I know where you're going and I had a very similar thought. But they have the lowest team scoring and the highest team scoring for the day. They have any player to score a hat trick, any player to score four plus goals. They have these where it's just open up to all of the games. It's not specific to one individual game or player or whatever. I just thought that that was pretty cool because I was kind of trying to look for a way for, like, the Panthers to score the most goals tonight or the Bruin, like something to do in that game. And I kind of stumbled across this by looking for that.
Starting point is 01:10:51 That's pretty cool. What the? Where did this come from? That's really cool. So I thought that was cool. Well, put it this way. If Jack Hughes ends up with the most is probably a bad night for your team. But if Austin Matthews rips it up, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:11:05 we can stop talking about how good New Jersey is right now because they look pretty good. Yes. Those are good. They do look pretty good. Yeah. Devils are pretty good. I don't know what you mean my team. My team's in the World Series.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Oh, this is going to be nonstop, just insufferable. Everything you've always wanted to know about Max Scherzer, but we're afraid to ask, courtesy of Philly. That's going to be, just going to be insufferable. That's the last time I'm going to do that. I don't know. No, man. Listen, I'm glad you had the experience. I think that's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I was at the game when George Bell hit the home run off Bruce Keeson after Keeson, no, Ernie Witt, rather, hit the home run off Bruce Keeson after the George Bell incident. And that exhibition, before there was a skydome, son, there was exhibition stadium. Let me tell you about that. And that place erupted when Ernie went down on one knee to hit the Grand Slam. God, that was good. Okay, so here's what I want to focus on real quick, wrapping up the program today. Relatively on time.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Not bad of the timing today, Merrick. although I blame you when in doubt blame the producer for going off the rails Bruins and Panthers Brad Marchand yesterday
Starting point is 01:12:08 asked what his favorite thing is about Boston asked about what he misses about Boston I'm paraphrasing what the question was his answer
Starting point is 01:12:17 oh just a Picasso from Brad Marchand the fans translation don't boo me don't make this miserable for me could have been like you passed all the guys that I fought with back then
Starting point is 01:12:33 yeah in the trenches together organization taking care of me the Jacobs family the fans the fans that guy is so good you know what he is you know what he is
Starting point is 01:12:43 you ever see the movie Glenn Gary Glenn Ross no okay first of all that's your homework tonight because you're not going to get this reference until you watch this movie tonight you need to watch that movie by the way
Starting point is 01:12:55 always be closing ABC always be closing that's Brad Marchand he is always closing he gets it so I know he's not the most I know he's not over Rasmus Dahline's not a big fan of his right now or Peyton Krebs had to surrender his helmet for Rasmus Dalline for the power play because Brad Marchant tore off the earloops of Dahlene's on Saturday afternoon but that guy is all business Brad Marchand is always closing and that was such a perfect answer I miss the fans. Oh, do I... Good job.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Well done. Sometimes you paint a barn, sometimes you paint a Picasso. That's what's a Picasso, painted by Brad Marchand. And that's what we got for you today? You want any closing thoughts out of you, Blue Jays fan? You want to talk about George Springer
Starting point is 01:13:41 and it's a good thing you were wearing dark pants when that ball left the yard. You want to get any of that kind of stuff? You want to go over? No, no, no, no. No, the Marchand Plus 175 to score was the other thing I was looking at tonight. like that's the other it's going to that's the other area it's going to happen yeah i know what
Starting point is 01:14:01 is he what do you think he does blow a kiss no i don't know yeah but to his teammates not the fans you know it's it's it's it's interesting hey like if brad marshand scores do they give him an ovation no there's still Boston sports fans. I get it. And the reason I've got this in my brain is, you know, we started the season off this year by losing three goaltenders, Ken Dryden, Bernie Perron, and Ed Jockeman. And one of the greatest moments in the history of the game, here it goes Merrick with
Starting point is 01:14:40 the history shit. And the greatest moment of the game is when the Rangers put Jockeman on waivers, was claimed by the Detroit Red Wings. Two days later, the Red Wings are in New York to play the Rangers, and Eddie is starting, and he gets a standing ovation, and they're chanting his name. against the New York Rangers. To me, it was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in hockey.
Starting point is 01:14:59 There's a great photo of him of Eddie, like, fighting back tears in the crease. He never wanted to leave. But I really, I'm curious to see what the Boston Bruins fans do with Brad Marchand if he scores tonight. I'm really curious. Look, my thought on Boston and their approach to tonight would be not booing
Starting point is 01:15:20 would be the greatest sign of respect. cheering would be too far just in general not booing and heckling that would be like the ultimate respect it's just like when Marner comes back
Starting point is 01:15:33 and he gets a standing ovation from Maple Leafs fans right right yes that will happen I just want to stand back from a microphone on that one uh sharks Islanders
Starting point is 01:15:44 Schaefer versus Mesa Schaefer versus Celebrini first overall picks going up against each other the Vancouver Canucks coming off that big win against the Washington Capitals on Sunday afternoon, face off against the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Still no news on Philip Heedle. The last time I checked about an hour and a half ago, a lot of good games tonight. It's one of those nights where, you know, kick it off. Like start at 7 and finish with your 10 o'clock starts in the eastern time zone and adjust accordingly in all the other time zones. You're going to finish off with the Colorado Avalanche and the Utah Mammoth, who for one day against the Carolina Hurricane
Starting point is 01:16:22 Hartford Whalers. Could maybe please be the Winnipeg Jets? I know, Merrick. As we say in French, Toureve en Couloor. You dream in color. May you dream in color. Thanks for the buns.
Starting point is 01:16:37 And the use of the hall, tip your Zen morning driver on the way out. Thanks to Devin Dubnick for stopping by. Thanks to Corey Lavalette for stopping by. Thanks to you. And no, I'm not saying it in like the Brad Marchang go into business for yourself. Thanks so much for the downloads. Thanks for the attention.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Thanks for watching slash listening. the sheet returns tomorrow. Brian Burke is back on. So we'll talk to Berkey. And then on Thursday, Pierre McGuire, returns as well. So lots to get to this week. Hope to have you aboard for all of it. You know what to do as far as helping us out here in the process?
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Starting point is 01:17:18 Really face off live. DFO Live. We'll see if the boys have sobered up. Mix it in a water, boys. Talk to you more. I said 16 hours last night, every day this week, every day this month. I can't get out my head,
Starting point is 01:17:39 lost all ambitions day to day, because I can call it all right. I went to the dark man. You tried to give me a little medicine. I'm like, no, and that's fine. I'm not against those methods but new. It's me and myself and how this is going to be fixing my mind. I didn't want to back it.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I turned on the music. I do want to back. I turn on the music. It's going to melt up and I don't get you sometimes losing. Have been on the days that we're wrong. Hey there, it's Jeff Merrick here. You know, my wife and I both have countless memories from spending time discovering Canada. Well, I always come back to the summer of 2005. We were staying at a cottage on Lake Joseph here in Muscoca
Starting point is 01:18:43 watching the Live 8 music festival in Barry on television. My buddy Jeremy Taggart, former drummer from Our Lady Peace, dropped by after his band set and stayed the rest of the weekend at the cottage after the band set and told some incredible backstage stories about some amazing Canadian music icons. I will never forget that. And fast forward to today, I'm a hockey parent and I feel like I'm always on the road with my family, whether that means traveling across southern Ontario hockey ranks during the week or overnight at tournaments on select weekends. But what makes our hockey experience even more special, is booking a place on Airbnb when we're on the road for overnight tournament.
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