The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Lack Of Trust ft. Greg Wyshynski

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

On this episode of The Sheet, Jeff Marek is joined by ESPN’s Greg Wyshynski to break down the Arturs Silovs trade to the Penguins, Ryan Reaves with some parting words for the Maple Leafs, the best remaining UFAs in an already thin market, and the de-centralized draft. The two also dive into the opening night schedule, including the defending champion Florida Panthers taking on the Chicago Blackhawks, and a revenge game to start for Mike Sullivan.#NHL #Hockey #ArtursSilovs #PittsburghPenguins #RyanReaves #TorontoMapleLeafs #NHLTrade #UFAs #NHLDraft #DecentralizedDraft #FloridaPanthers #ChicagoBlackhawks #MikeSullivan #NHLNews #HockeyPodcast #TheSheet #JeffMarek #GregWyshynski #ESPNHockey #NHL2025Shout out to our sponsors! 👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/ Reach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us! If you liked this, check out: 🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow 🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401 🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom 🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army 🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation 🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting ____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Gonna keep the feed hot here all summer. Don't wanna be away for too long. Got a couple of things to do, going out of town for a few days here and there. So it's gonna be a little more of a laid back show. But then we just had the weekend that we had. And so we wanna get right to it. So normally right now,

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scoreless bartenders across north america near nhl r wish? I'm good, you know, for all the talk about shirts, I want to point out that Merrick appears to be the bassist for a goth band that does Jimmy Buffett covers. You know why? Because this is so me. I've discovered things like really, really late. And while they're actually happening, I don't really have a lot of time for them.

You know what I've been ODing on going for my runs these days that I've just suddenly discovered like to me. They're a new band You're gonna laugh the cure It's gonna be the cure and if this is a bad you've just discovered yeah, they're really good Robert Smith is like 95 years old I don't know what the same Edward Scissorhands hair that he had back in the 1980s But no sir have just discovered the cure to me. He's 25 to me He's 25 years old and this is so cool. And now wow, he's wearing a hockey jersey on stage Yeah, I've just discovered the cure and I'm OD on the cure during my runs

I that's that's funny because I've I've rediscovered a band too. So now I when I was in college It was during the Britpop invasion. So we're talking Blur, Oasis, Elastica. Are you living in a Champagne Supernova now? Are you going to say Oasis? One day you will find me. One might say I'm constantly, I mean orbit around a Champagne Supernova at all times. So I listened to all those bands, but the one band that wasn't necessarily on my radar

was a band called Pulp. And they're the ones who did Common, Jarvis Cocker. They did Common People, which I think is probably one of the best songs in the last 30 years. But they put out a new album recently called More. And the first two singles really caught me. I'm like, well shit, did I sleep on Pulp? And it turns out I very much slept on pulp.

That is an amazing band. So I've gone back and revisited all of the albums that they put out there in the Britpop invasion. The new album is really good. Jarvis Cocker is the best. Jarvis Cocker you may know as the guy who, I believe mooned the camera and made fart motions with his hands during a

Michael Jackson performance at the British Music Awards once it was like arrested for it which is kind of amazing so you know it's all Jarvis Jarvis Cocker maybe the most stylish man in the history of music I remember reading an interview God what magazine was it? I can't remember, British GQ perhaps. And this line always stuck with me and it is perfect Jarvis Cocker. He said, I don't own any casual clothes because you never know.

Well, and he's also stylish. He wears all like earth tones. Which I think is also very important. Like he's stylish in the way that an English professor at a very hoity-toity college might be stylish. So I always appreciate that. Yeah, PULP, the new album is really fantastic. And it deals not only is it good music, but it also deals with something that I can relate to which is a content creator aging into a new phase of life. Oh there you see like was like being rejected by being rejected by girls in high school which they surfed on for and university for about oh they surfed on that for a long time. A dozen albums are being you know sexually frustrated uh frosh yeah but 12 albums at a

pulp for that motif. Um yeah how are we gonna dovetail to talk about the decentralized draft coming off of that? How about this? How about we play a clip so on leafs morning take today bill Armstrong the general manager of the Utah Mammoth Was was interviewed and one of the questions asked was about the vote to keep the draft Decentralized Greg. Greg, lend your ears, lend your ears. Did you vote in favor of decentralizing the draft or keeping it that way? Can you disclose that and maybe the thought process behind all that?

I can't really disclose it. Some of that stuff set a higher pay grade than mine. So I tend to want to stay out of that. Okay. How do I talk to- So there's only two higher pay grades than Bill Armstrong with the Utah Mammoth. And one is Chris Armstrong, the CEO of the team. And above him is Ryan Smith, the owner of the team. the CEO of the team and above him is Ryan Smith, the owner of the team. And Ashley Smith, the owner of the team. This is what we heard the entire time about this decentralized draft. For all of the talk about, oh, we can get our war room together and it'll be

quieter and less distractions and this, that, the other thing, logistic, logistic, logistic, it all came down to the money. I tried to tell people the whole time when they were talking about the pros and cons of this thing. It's all about will it cost less to have all of our scouts and all of our people in-house, on-site, doing this thing from like the facilities, then to fly them out and buy them all hotel rooms and buy them all dinners and buy them all flights at whatever city the NHL decides to put the draft in. And people would say, well, aren't the scouts flying to the facility? And I'm like, that is absolutely correct. But the GMs are there and the hockey ops are there. And also, let's not forget the PR people are there and the social people are there

and all the other structure that you have to put on the road for the draft. By the way, the draft is a very big deal for these teams, and you have to have everybody on site to deliver content back to your fans, and also make huge decisions that will influence the future of your franchise for the next decade. And all of that costs money to move,

and at the end of the day, I guess they looked at the bottom line, Merrick, and they said, Wow, I can't believe how much money we saved doing this shit on site. Forget about the draft. Yeah. But again, that's... See, I look at that and I say to myself, you know, micro versus macro, penny wise, pound foolish, and say to myself, like, not only does the draft act as, well, hey, we're picking players and setting the course of our franchise as you point out for the next 10 years but the draft is an event where the whole like the hockey world all comes together like it's one event where everybody goes and there's there's meetings and people get together we used to always when we were doing the MVSW podcast we would always do we'd always do shows we would

always do meetups and people do that and there's coaches conferences and just like, it's just an event where the whole industry can get together. And when you do it this way, the whole industry can't get together and then you don't have that on your calendar whatsoever. That doesn't become part, like there's no one moment where everybody sort of reminds themselves like, oh yeah, we're all kind of doing this one thing and not to get like

overly maudlin about it, but like it's a sort of celebration of hockey crap that you always hear but the celebration of the game and like I'm the first guy to Knock that to play whack-a-mole with that sentiment, but it's true It's the one time where everybody gets together from so many different levels and And I'll tell you what, you know where it's valuable too? For people that are looking for either entry level jobs in the industry or wanna get a chance to network and wanna get a chance to take their career to the next step and just meet a bunch of new people as well

and get more ingrained. How many times have you had someone ask you, like, how do I get involved? How do I get in? It's like, you get in like in any other industry. You put your hand up for every crummy job and you start to meet people. And then you just network your way all the way through.

There's no secret. And now that you don't have this, I think as much as we keep hearing, good, it's good, it's good of the game, good of the game. We gotta do what's right for the game. We gotta do this for the good of the game. This is not good for the game This is like I'm gonna save a couple of bucks so everybody stay put and now we can't have this any look NHL doesn't

I think I think NHL that the NHL doesn't want it the players don't want it like this They won't admit it, but the players don't want it like this agents don't want it like this broadcasters don't want it like this the fans, you know the people that have the nerve to Open up their wallets for this industry. Don't want to like this the fans, you know the people that have the nerve to Open up their wallets for this industry don't want to like this The only people that want to like this are the guys that have to write the checks That's it Are you saying that we might have more than three people two of them? potential draft picks in the building for day two of the draft if

There was a reason for people to be there, because that was the crowd for day two of the draft Los Angeles. I think I've told the story before, but I'll tell it again. The first NHL event I ever covered as a journalist was the draft where Patrick Kane went first overall. It was the first time I ever covered anything. I was writing for AOL Fan House, RIP,

home to some of your favorite writers, James Myrtle being one of them. Oh, nice. And I paid my own way on a bus from Washington, DC to go to the draft. I believe that was Columbus, right? Where Patrick Kane went first. I'm not mixing up my years, I don't think.

And it was the end of the Stamp Coast year. So I'm on a bus, it was a bunch of freaks. I left at like midnight, it was an over night bus. It was a bunch of freaks. I left at like midnight. It was an overnighter. There was a woman in the front seat, I remember, who was cutting her hair with a straight razor blade, which I thought was a little odd, but that's bus for you.

And then, you know, you go there as a young reporter and you meet all of these, like you said, you meet all these people the first time. I'll never forget walking across a crosswalk and bumping into Cam Neely. At the time, as a young writer, my relationship with Cam Neely... And there you were wearing an Ulf Samuelson Pittsburgh jersey. You thought, oh, bad timing by me.

Bad call by me to pull Ulfie's jersey out. He scored a bunch of goals against the Devils when I was growing up, and I loved him in Dumb and Dumber. And here he is, you know? And so, one of the things that we'll miss to your point is not only young people networking, but also like, you go to the draft and you see more random website journalists than you do at any other NHL event during the season. They have auxiliary seating. Everybody can get in a credential basically. You cut your teeth there, you meet people. It's a huge, you know, when you talk about

like the next generations of hockey writers coming up, it's a very, very important event for that very purpose. But the other thing, what you said could be summed up like this. It's also like the end of Cannonball run, when all of the different teams are are at the finish line, and they're popping champagne because the race is over. That's also the NHL draft. It's also the end the last thing we do in the season before we're all remote and doing free agency and all this other stuff.

And it's a chance to just kind of like, you know, wear shorts on day two if you're Ken Campbell of the Hockey News, you know what I mean? It's like a very casual sendoff to what has been a marathon season. You know what I always love about the draft is watching the kids in the first, I remember sitting next to Dylan Strong wear their jerseys back to back to the hotel

And you just know like they're wearing that thing all night long All night long now. I love that now. So the two go ahead Can I just say the two things that obviously are going to change from this year's decentralized draft to next year's? one The onstage presentation will be different. I believe we will not have people onstage getting drafted and then being in a situation where they feel like they're being fired over Zoom.

We'll probably get rid of that. And the other thing I think will be different, and I'm hoping at least to be different, the one huge gripe people like Bill Armstrong had, not Bill in particular, but GMs around the league, had about the decentralized draft was the reason we didn't see a lot of trades. They said not being in the same room with your peers

was hurting the facilitating of transactions during the draft. And I wonder if that they just need a year to get used to it or if this is just going to be how it is going forward but you can't just walk over to somebody's table and have a chat but I know the onstage presentation will be better next year. I'm hoping that we get more trades now that they kind of know how things work. So a couple of things there.

My, and I threw this in the blog this morning that I put up sort of a couple of tongue in cheek ideas and I want to bounce a Tim Murray one off you in a second. But my thought is, it's like, okay, if you don't wanna be there, no camera time for you. Like just make it about the kids. Like we're gonna get rid of the draft house idea where you mentioned like, you feel like you're being either interviewed or being fired over Zoom.

Like you don't wanna be here, that's fine. No one from your team is gonna be there. You don't have the general manager on video. You don't have any of that. It is just about the kids getting drafted. You have a bunch of vignettes ready to roll as soon as they get drafted, telling everybody from that new fan base

why they should be excited about this player. It is all about the player who A, paid their own freight to get there, and two, and are the stars of the show and as as one agent mentioned to me on the weekend Which other TV show can you think of? Where the where the stars of the show don't get paid at all and as a matter of fact have to pay their way To get to the set but I'll I'll park that conversation for another another day But yeah, like just make it about the kids, that's it,

and no general managers on screen whatsoever. They could submit their pick, and then they get announced by someone, I'll tell you in a second. They get announced, and then a vignette rolls, they put it on the jersey, and that's it, and you move things along quickly. Sorry to all the GMs out there.

You don't wanna to be here. That's fine. No camera time. Yeah, no, I, I, I wouldn't have the GMs involved at all. I mean, unless it is submit the pack in a journalistic capacity later in the program. What I would love to see is sort of a marriage of the draft broadcast. and this is if it's us or whoever doing it, and by us I mean ESPN, and kind of mold and shape it into a here's the draft, but here is also a gateway to the off season. And so if you're having a GM on,

it should be a function of, tell us about the person you drafted, but also tell us about the next three or four weeks for you and what that means and what your team is looking for and what could happen in free agency. Like I would love to see it pivot because honestly there is a ceiling on the number of NHL fans that will watch the NHL draft if it is simply about the kids being drafted. But you increase that ceiling I think if you make it more about the NHL offseason in the same way that the NBA draft is about the offseason in many, and I think the NFL draft is more about the

players than anything else, but I do think the NBA is a lot more here's the offseason versus just here the kids getting drafted. The problem is time. Yeah. Oh, I agree. 32 picks and 32 interviews with the kids and 32 interviews with general managers about the off season. But do we need 32 interviews with the kids? Couldn't we do an interview with all the kids and put them online digitally and just show the good ones? Like, you know, like we have 32 interviews. No, you have to do them live because the kid's got to talk about how excited he is to go online digitally and just show the good ones. Like, like, you know, you have to do the live because the kids got to talk about how excited he is to go to.

They're all right. They're all live. But then you pick the ones that are good. You know, it's like it's like what you're doing, man. Oh, I see. I see what you mean. Yeah, you've done that. Yeah, you interview 20 people and maybe six of them are interesting. It's the same thing as the draft. That's you take the six that are interesting. It's the same thing as the draft. That's fair. See, you take the six that are interesting and you interview. Here, our reporter just

recently spoke to Latvian kid and if Latvian kid's funny, then he makes the show. And if he doesn't, then he's, congratulations, you're on YouTube. Congratulations, you're an ESPN plus exclusive. Like we don't have to put every kid on the TV. We could spend that time talking about off season stuff and making the show more about general topics fans might be interested in besides like, congratulations to the Blue Jackets for drafting Latvian kid 16th. Latvian kid.

You know. Okay, so here's- If he's from Denmark, that's at least a novel TV's from Denmark. If he's from Latvia, yeah, we've had Latvians afford the league Love lab. Yeah, I've told you before best hockey fans Here's who needs to do the announcements for all of them, okay blast from the past bring him back

Nobody understands the principle of economy and no bullshit like Tim Murray former general Jack I call and Jack I call if if if if the Stanley Cup, Buffalo Sabres takes Sam Reinhardt. Now, I remember at a CHL and HL top prospects game,

talking, and this would have been at the Meridian Center in Niagara, I went up to Tim and we're having a conversation and said, like, look, I loved what you did last year in Philadelphia, when you took Sam Reinhardt, just like, no BS, just walked up there, announced the pick and that was it, no BS, And we're having a laugh about it. And he says, uh, he says, do you know what I wanted to do? Uh, I said, no, he goes, here's what I really want to do.

I want to break the record and set the record for fewest words said on stage while making a pick. And I'm like, well, how much less can you get than the Buffalo Sabres take Sam Reinhart? He goes, here's my idea, but they won't let me do it. I want to walk up on stage, point to who I want and walk off stage, not not say a thing. When that would that try to have been the Ikel draft the sunrise Florida draft. So Tim Ray just walks up points to check like another kid stands up and oh no no no no no no.

Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Five guys in the suits all stand up going me me me. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Him. Yeah. Yeah, five guys in the suits all standing going me me me me no no oh you him yeah Come on. That's a pretty funny story. I bring to bring Tim Murray back bring Tim Murray back I missed just roll the droll Tim Murray announcements, but look man like I I Hate I hate the decentralized draft. I do I mean I think that for all the reasons we spoke about,

the celebratory aspect of it, the transactional aspect of it, the chance for us in the media to speak to all these GMs on site and then have content to provide for the next month because of it, all of the things that happen around the draft that are a celebration of hockey community, we lose all that.

We lose all that with a decentralized draft. But I'm open-minded about why this is happening and there are ways to maybe make it work. I'll use the Islanders as an example. I thought what the Islanders did for their draft party was incredible. I thought it was really cool. They had a little carnival inside of UBS arena. They made it a really big deal They were booing picks or I'm sorry. They were cheering picks when it wasn't James Hagan, you know

It was it was a cool atmosphere and and my only like positive thought before we actually had the decentralized draft was What if every market had their own little like get together. So instead of everybody converging on an arena somewhere in the US or Canada to do the draft, now we've got 32 of these things happening and wouldn't that be fun. So if we can make it more of a let's all get together and celebrate our season and look forward to the future

in 32 individual markets, then we've got something But I just don't think that'll manifest itself in the way that I hope that does And at the end, I think we lose too much with the decentralized draft to really be happy about it repeating it for another year So what what you're asking for is is is is 32 fan fests? Yeah, pretty much Like if we got there that'd be great and then and then you could you know you can zoom in or FaceTime in the pics and stuff. The Islanders night was really fun. I mean, for a lot of different reasons,

it helps me have the first overall pic in the Hagens drama. But that was, in my mind's eye, Merrick, when I said to myself, how do we make this really shitty decision okay? It would be that format But there but obviously like, you know, like we said the owners the CEOs they read the receipts They compared it to last year year over year How much does that send to send all these people to Montreal and then they said we can easily just do this again

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a perfect segue to talk about Shilovs. Vic, we have other things to talk about, but now we'll talk about Shilovs. Okay, so the Vancouver Pittsburgh trade. Now my own personal theory about why Jim Mutherford always deals with Pittsburgh is twofold. One, he knows the organization. He's quite comfortable dealing with the Pittsburgh Penguins and that's the obvious one.

My other thought, and this is especially true of Arthur Shilov's, I think Jim has that old school, never trade within the division mentality and he is very comfortable sending his players to a place where they are rebuilding and are of no threat to his hockey team, the Vancouver Canucks. could have offered more than a fourth round pick and someone that's the equivalent of Chase Stillman, but that could come back to haunt the Vancouver Canucks. Why would I try to help a conference rival when we're both competing for a playoff spot? So you can argue the Oilers are competing for a cup, not a playoff spot.

You think that's true before we get into the nuts and bolts of the deal? They're just, he's just comfortable doing it and that's an easy phone call for him. Yeah, but I think that's true for every GM. I mean, where did John Gibson go? No, I know, he went, but the thing is like, I think that that's the most that he could have gotten

for John Gibson. I think he was just looking for someone to take full retention, like to take all the money. And Steve just said, yeah, we'll take it. I think, I mean, I don't think you're incorrect, but I also don't think that Pat Verbeek's given John Gibson to the Oilers. I mean, if don't think you're incorrect, but I also don't think that Pat Verbeek's given John Gibson to the Oilers. I mean, if you're an ascendant team, if you're a team that believes they could be maybe a

playoff contender this year, with, with, with, with Cuenville as your head coach, do you really want to trade John Gibson to a team you're going to see in the first round as a potential wild card? If the Oilers would have hit the once upon a time price of two first round picks. You don't think Pat Forbeek would have sent John Gibson to the Edmonton Oilers for two first rounders? I don't know. If anybody else ante that up that wasn't in your division, I think he probably sends it to somebody outside of the division. Why would you want to help the Oilers if it's the Ducks? John Gibson is going to be around for multiple seasons.

I understand all that, but they're in different places and they're like, if they're, if it's a team that's closest to your position in the winning cycle, then you say, yeah, no, we're not gonna do that. But the Oilers are talking about the Stanley Cup. The Anaheim Docs are talking about the playoffs. Different places in the winning cycle. Yeah, and at some point, you have to stop

being everybody's farm system for players and start transitioning to being a contender. And so if you're gonna do that, then you would much rather potentially have a first round playoff series against a team that's trotting out Sturt Skinner and Calvin Pickard than John Gibson. I mean, I think that has everything to do

with Rubik's decision. I think Pat Rubik, competitively he is, is gonna be like, oh, let's help out a division rival. I don't think so at this point. I think he thinks that team is ascendant, especially with who the coach is these days. Just as a quick aside, I mentioned this on Oli's Nation

a couple of seconds ago, with Tality, Remtruck and Liam. And I wanna get it on here to make sure that we have this conversation. There's another Shilov situation happening in the NHL right now. Do you know where that is? Where is that? That is in Boston. With Michael DiPietro. Michael DiPietro once upon a time could have been taxi squatted out of the NHL. Remember when Vancouver had him on the taxi squad during COVID?

And we all thought like, what's happening with this kid's development? He's not getting any games. Like he's not playing. To say nothing of that disastrous first start where they rushed him into the NHL because of an emergency and he got lit up by the San Jose Sharks, just destroying his confidence.

All of a sudden now, Michael DiPietro has turned the career around, had a really good season year before and then had a really good season last year with the Boston Bruins, Providence Bruins. He re-upped with the organization and last time I checked, Jeremy Swainman wasn't going anywhere. You know, Scarpa Sala wasn't going anywhere, which means do you really think you can sneak Michael DiPietro through waivers to get him back to Providence? Michael DiPietro through waivers to get him back to Providence. Vancouver looked at Shilovs and said, no way. And I'm guessing the Boston Bruins are saying, I hope no podcast pick up on the fact that we have our own Shilovs situation here now.

But Michael DiPietro might just be the new Arthur Shilovs. I just want to lob that out there for Oilers fans out there that, you know what, you may not have got your art to she loves but you may get a Michael D Pietro not Latvian And we would have gotten away with it too. Who wasn't for that pesky podcast pesky podcast had led told us about waivers and did Michael D Pietro didn't use Was it you or was it someone else that thought that Jari could be the guy who ends up in Edmonton? I think if the penguins retain half I think that there's a shot. Yeah, I don't think I don't think I mean I think he's headed somewhere because they're obviously tank. They're in a full tank. So like I know I know people's feelings on Jari

Or are what they are But he played pretty well down the stretch and I think that they are More positioned to do what they want to do this season if he's off the roster Well now the reason that Nadelkovich is in San Jose now. Look, Blomquist is getting a lot more action next year. We know that. Shilafs is probably going to be the backup next year.

And Jari is going to be the odd man out. I think the only question is which team, like can Dubas move Tristan Jari without retention? Probably not. But which team is going to ask him to retain the least and maximize his return. And the other thing is too. Do you think, go ahead. Do you think he's better than either Skinner or Pickard?

Who Tristan Jarre? Yeah. He showed a time. As a playoff goaltender, as a playoff goaltender. I don't know. But I don't know about that because we honestly, I know that everyone's- Yeah, that's a part of it too. I can't give you any sort of accurate frame of reference for it.

Like, we don't really know. I'll tell you that he looked great when he played for the Edmonton Oil Kings of the Western Hockey League in the playoffs, but that doesn't mean a lot. Neither of us are Kevin Woodley, neither of us are Steven Valakett, obviously. But when I think about what the Oilers need,

then I think about what he's done in the playoffs. I'm like, egh, maybe not the guy that you wanna pursue. But I think he's probably better than Pickard and maybe on the same level as Skinner at this point in his career. If you make the move for Tristan Jarre and you're the Edmonton Oilers, you say to yourself, we hope that the most recent numbers

are just reflective of playing behind a bad defense. And playing on a bad game. He would scare the shit out of me in the playoffs. He would scare the living shit out of me in the playoffs. But here's the thing about it. Here's the thing about it. Shishturkin, Sorokin, Vasilevsky, like the Russian goalie all-star team,

like none of them are walking through that door. Any goaltender that Edmonton gets is gonna have some question marks beside them. So it doesn't matter who you get, there's gonna be that, geez, I don't know. Yeah, but you're not getting Prime Marty Prador. You're not getting Buffalo Sabre Dominic Hashiak.

You're not. First of all, few of those goaltenders even exist anymore. And second of all, teams that have them aren't letting them go. They're not. Your opportunity to acquire them passed, not only because teams aren't letting them go, but also because your asset pool is now a puddle.

And the time in which you'd be able to aggressively pursue one of them goaltenders before your asset pool became a puddle and before your cap situation became what it is right now. I mean, that was probably like, what, two years ago? So it's like we're talking about the Marner trade. When was the right time to trade martyr well two years before you had to I mean it's the same thing with Edmonton and

goaltending like they cast their lot with two guys and now they're kind of stuck with them because the opportunity to improve the position past two years ago the thing is Edmonton Edmonton doesn't need Sergey Bobrovsky right the the Oilers don't need like a goaltender that's going into the Hall of Fame. Like they got there with Stuart Skinner. They didn't win. They don't know. No, they didn't win.

That's what I'm saying. They need an improvement. What they don't need is a first team All-Star. They just need improvement. I'm not saying they have to trade for Siroken. I completely agree with you on that. They need that beat that beats your guy. I don't think either Skinner or picker beats your guy

I think I think it's an abject embarrassment to be in game six of the stanley cup final and not know who's playing for you Like like that's the bar like clear that bar know who's playing in game six of the stanley cup final there There's there's your there's your homework stan bowman. See if you can complete the assignment um You gotta thought on Sid these days I keep telling people that this is all gonna be by his hand and it's gonna be loyalty or competitiveness May the may the may the may the stronger emotion win Let's talk about Sid last time we were together. I think we talked about Sid. Yes I think every time we've been together this year. We've talked about Sid. Yeah, so

So I and I've used the same line over and over again, because I know it to be true, which is that Sid is gonna be in Pittsburgh as long as Gino's in Pittsburgh. Now, I've said that for the last year, and then in the last week or so, I will make now a- Uh-oh, an amendment? I will make an amendment. I will make now a... Uh oh, an amendment?

I will make an amendment. I will make an amendment. I will make an informed guess. Someone had a conversation with somebody this year. Somebody had a conversation with somebody about Crosby. I'm not saying I've had a conversation with anybody. What am I gonna do? What am I gonna do?

Sit down with Sid and we're watching the History Channel together and he's telling me what he's gonna do next season? Come on. I think if the Penguins get off to the start that we assume they're all gonna get off to, which is like disastrous, like we are nose down to the ground and trying to get Gavin McKenna,

I think he moves on before the end of the season. That's my prediction. If they're not, if they are nowhere, even within sniffing distance of a playoff position this year, you know, early on or midway through the season, what have you, I think he's gonna move on. I truly kind of, what have you. I think he's gonna move on. I truly kind of, well, I believe it. I think he'll move on if they're not

in playoff contention this year. So this would not be initiated by Dubas-Petzl. This would be initiated by Crosby-Bresson. This would, yeah, I get the sense that like We've we've gotten to a point with the penguins where it's very clear what the next steps are and and That's part of this the other part of it too. Is that you know? when you go and represent your country in the Olympics and then you come back and then the rest of your year is

spent watching your draft lottery odds increase versus playing in the Stanley Cup playoffs, it's kind of a bummer. I get it. And so I kind of think, you know, inkling speculation informed what happened. Okay. That if it's not a Penguin scene, it looks like it's gonna be relevant. He's not gonna be on the Penguins after the trade deadline. Can I go conspiracy theory with you? Go ahead. That the reason that Sidney Crosby came in light on his last contract was to make himself more movable. That's interesting.

That's very good. I like that conspiracy theory. Taking one for the team, but also taking one for- Taking one for my longevity and my competitiveness. Taking one for my longevity? Yeah. What do you think? Now I don't know about the other part of this, which is like, is it Colorado?

Is it Montreal? Like that's another thing we've talked about ad nauseam on this. Your Montreal comment got some, got some legs, man. That thing, that thing, that thing went from crawling to running. I know Montreal Reddit got a hold of that and it's like, boo. I'm not, I'm not like, you know, Magellan on this one. Like I'm not the first one to mention that, to mention that Sidney Crosby in Montreal may end up being the manifest destiny for the end of his career.

But I will say that like, it's obvious like wherever he moves it's gonna be a team that is guaranteed to play in the playoffs. So if that's Colorado, that's Montreal, I don't know. But again, this is just kind of, it's kind of whether I think the wind's blowing now. And I'm sure this will not go over well with my friends in Pittsburgh who believe that he'll be re-tored as a penguin.

And I'm not discounting that. I don't think that that should be discounted. The idea that this guy is brand loyal to the end and we'll see 87 of the rafters before we see him ever wear another jersey. But I will say that I think at this point in his career, at this point in the Penguin's trajectory, that if the wheels come off this team, like we assume it will this year,

because there's a lottery to win, and you're the Penguins, that I think he'll be playing elsewhere. Okay, so to all of our media friends in Pittsburgh, the headline should read like this, Wyszynski accuses Crosby of having loyalty issues. Accuses Crosby of disloyalty. Listen, man, I would love nothing more for him

to spend the rest of his career in Pittsburgh. I just don't know if it's trending that way anymore. Interesting. You ever thought on the Shilof's whole situation? I mean the one thing for the Vancouver Canucks, they addressed it early. They didn't let this one, they didn't let this one linger. They got this one out of the way. Now there's another one on the horizon with Linus Carlson who also needs waivers and had a great season in Abbotsford and an outstanding playoffs as well.

I don't know that there's a spot for him on the roster right now. Waivers is as much a timing game as anything else, but they may have another situation on their hands here with Linus Carlsen. They've already lost Arthur Shilofs because of this. Now could they lose someone else like Linus Carlsen? When's the last time we had a team

that was not a playoff squad have this many, we have too many good players, we can't get through waivers issue. Sheeloffs is one, Carlson's another, and there's like no playoffs and you're the owner and you're pulling your hair out. It's kind of wild. I mean, welcome to Pittsburgh by the way. No it is it is it is it is wacky

how how that seems to have happened with this roster considering their success or lack thereof last season but all right that's why the waiver situation is always specious you can always take your chances on it or or you know get get ahead of it. So do you think DiPietro gets traded before camp from Boston? Listen, Shelops was an obvious one because he was the MVP of the playoffs. He was great and it was a massive, massive story. People in hockey know, right?

Like put it this way, you and I are talking about this on July 14th. Everybody in the NHL knows that Michael DiPietro just had a great season and you know you're looking around the goaltending market and you're saying what's wrong with getting one of the best goaltenders in the American Hockey League you can make the argument it's harder to be a goalie in the AHL than it is in the NHL because not everything is perfect in the American Hockey League and there's a lot more shots coming from unexpected areas and more broken plays in front of you

It's harder to be a goalie in the American League than the NHL where everything is. Well, let's face it. Perfect Put it this way if I'm Stan Bowman, I'm I'm calling on a regular basis Let me ask you about a waiver you put them on waivers taking them for nothing, or do you want to make a deal now? Did you know socks are one of the most requested clothing items by organizations addressing homelessness? Bombas also makes incredibly comfy underwear and t-shirts, which by no coincidence are also some of the most requested clothing items by homeless shelters. So far Bombas has donated over

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and B, the idea of goalies playing 60, 70 games are gone, that you wanna have as much insurance as you can. I think there'd be a couple of interested teams out there. Vegas? I don't know. They have Schmeed, right, I think, out there. And Sam Sonoff's a free agent still, I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

So, we'll see. Vegas is a weird team, man. We talked about the fact that they have a forward group that is gonna be the envy of the West but a defense that you're just like and the Weird thing about it was the the defense is why they won the cup Even yeah, Jonathan Marsh's top one that Con Smythe was a defense that won the Stanley Cup. They were incredible This is best. I like the best blue lines we've ever seen. I like their top four. I mean their top four, their top four would look a lot better if it was

all of them down a peg behind like an Alex Petrangelo on the top pairing. That's the killer. But I mean their top four is solid. I just don't, I don't think that they have a third pairing right now. But like, but they're an interesting team. The thing about Vegas now is like every second forward is a selkie candidate. It's a Marner, Eichel, Stone, Carlson. This is like Datsuk Zetterberg all over again. Like what do you want us to do? Defense? Score? Just tell us coach we'll do whatever you want. That's what makes Vegas so fascinating to me. Okay I want to make sure we had some-

Oh, speak- Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead, sorry. I was gonna say speaking of Vegas, we should talk about the Reeves thing, right? That's where I wanted to go next, yeah. First of all, great way of announcing it. Oh, by the way, they're really not gonna like me

in a second when they find out that it just got traded to San Jose. That is now a great lost rival. Do you remember how much those two cities hated each other? Like it was a blood feud. It was great. And it wasn't that long ago that Vegas and San Jose were just ugly, ugly games and beautiful.

I covered the Pavelski five minute major game when the sharks rallied. That was one of my favorite playoff games to cover. For sure. For a very, very long time. Yeah, those two teams had a real heat. When Vegas first came in, it was the Kings they had real heat with

and then very, very quickly, it became the Sharks or it became like a blood rivalry. And it was funny, I knew we were gonna talk about this, so I went back and listened to Reeves, get to know you with the San Jose writers. Yeah. And like every question was basically like, how does it feel to be in San Jose where everybody hates you?

And he's like, ah, you know, by God's, he by God's, I'll protect Celebrene now, you know, it's really funny how this sport works. But yeah, the comments about Toronto, what struck you most about the comments about Toronto? That the fans were too hard on Marner. Yes. And also he got into something that we've talked about for years about this, this market, which is that they are, they have the same psychosis that the Washington capitals used to have pre Stanley Cup, which is when things are going right

in the playoffs, it was like wind in your sails, man. It was a party. It was amazing. The minute things turned, it became a mortuary. It became a tension convention. And Reeves kind of spoke to that, this idea that like, it's incredible how quickly things turn in the playoffs when all of a sudden the emotions shift and it's emo, it goes to extremes. And I thought it's always interesting when a player acknowledges that because we see it and we feel it,

but when they can say that they see it and feel it, then it's like, oh, the atmosphere of these games completely affects the way that these players are performing. Here's the issue though. And I've always felt this way about places like Toronto and New York and Montreal. This is the closest that you see to the NFL in the NHL. Like these are the fans. This is what they expect. This is the pressure.

You know, you can make the argument that, yeah, they can call Leafs fans crazy and Habs fans crazy in two languages. But at the same time, like that means that that market is a success. And you want every single market to behave that way because your fans are ATMs at that point. And it's great and everyone loves it and everyone's crazy about it and there's immense pressure on the players and they're not just invisible citizens when they leave the rink.

They might as well be wearing their name bar wherever they go because everybody knows who they are. Like that kind of, when you have that kind of pressure that means you're successful That means that that organization has has hit its stride now remember a line I've talked about this before it's always stuck with me Bob Ganey Once I think this is when he was running the North Stars. He had a great line He said if you're a general manager, and you don't have a headache that means your team sucks That means you have a bad team because if you have good teams you have constant headaches because having great players

Can give you headaches like they're they're difficult to manage. There's difficult situations that come along with it He said the worst thing I'm paraphrasing Bob Ganey here, but the spirit I think I'm hitting, he said you know the the worst thing is for a general manager to have a good night's sleep because that means your team is awful, right? Like oh it's bad but there's no problem, it's great, it's easy to go to work. Like when you're set when you're a team like the Leafs and the Habs, like you tell me that like Kent Hughes has peaceful sleeps? Brad Shul living has peaceful sleeps? Not Chris Drury has peaceful sleeps. Not a chance.

There's no way. There's no way. But that comes along. And then you can also say that's what the money is for. That comes along with that type of success. It's the closest thing the NHL has to an NFL market. I think Kent Hughes has been sleeping pretty good during what's essentially been a rebuild for the last couple of years.

I think it ebbs and flows. By the way, Crazy in French is- But now there's expectation. Now there's expectation. There is. Crazy in French is Follet, which I should have known because of the Joker, the Joker sequel, Follet a Do. Howie?

With him and Harley. So dumb. Terrible movie. No, there's definitely expectations now when there's expectations that's when the insomnia kicks in. You know what's tough? Yeah, so what struck you about, we didn't talk about his Marner comments.

What struck you about his Marner comments? I mean, he's still in protect mode, right? Like that's like classic Ryan Reeves, I'm protecting the hive and I'm protecting my guy. I don't know that like honestly, Marner was such a divisive player, but I think that- No. Yeah, no, shocking.

I think that the online community, first of all, is not reality and by and large and Overwhelmingly and especially with a younger demographic fans loved him fans adored Mitch Marner, I don't know that he was treated Unfairly other than he was treated unfairly from a segment a loud segment of people online hmm, I was treated unfairly from a segment, a loud segment of people online.

I don't know, man, but here's the thing. I know. I know. I know what you're saying. Like, I don't think the common fans can go to them. Let me let me. I don't think they did. Let me add one thing to that, too. Leafs fans want every center to be Dougie and want every winger to be Wendell. That's what they want. Even though Dougie and Wendell never got further than the conference final, that's the

expectation. You play like those two guys. I mean, Marner clearly wanted to be Dougie too. Wanda 93. We're all the way through playing Don Mills and Von King. I think where you're wrong is that I do think that the common Leafs fans not terminally online were still very pissed off about the contract negotiation and the number they ultimately settled on. Like I think even the common fan understands when you look at what like happened in Pittsburgh and what happened in other places with regard to, you know, the money they took or didn't take. And then look how Marner operated in that negotiation. I think that's kind of even for

the common fan, that was a bit of a tipping point. I don't know if the common fan really scapegoats Marner in the same way that an online fan would, or in many cases, an ex player on a podcast would because that's also a community that felt that Marner played to to the periphery and didn't compete hard enough and would you know call out moments during playoff games in which you didn't hustle. But I think overall his Q rating was quite high amongst Leafs fans. To the point about the contract and I don't know like maybe you do. Hang on here. Was his percentage higher than what Crosby signed for when he signed his deal before this one

with the Pittsburgh Penguins? It's a good question. Because I always think that we fall, and I'm guilty of this too, of just looking at the number as opposed to the percentage of contract Because we all look back at Sid and how well that contract age and we said oh look how selfless Crosby was But when he signed that contract at 8.7 AAV What was the percentage of cap at the same time and was it that dissimilar to what?

Marner signed for? I don't have that handy. Again, I don't know. But I know we always look at the number, go like, look how selfless Sid was. But the thing is, again, no one can predict a pandemic and those contracts age poorly because the cap flattened. All of that was predicated on the cap going up.

But eventually, yeah, you know what, they look bad in the first couple of years, but then it's all gonna even out. And you're gonna look back and go like, yeah, you know what, got me at in the first couple of years, but then it's all gonna even out. And you're gonna look back and go like, yeah, you know what, got me at the beginning of by the end of the contract here, it looks like a valuable deal for the Toronto Maple Leafs. I mean, he still took 10.893 and then $31 million

in the first two years of the contract. But here's the thing that I can't, I know that we're all educated now to like, every extra dollar a player takes that's one less dollar that the manager can spend on another player but I've never I've never understood fans that get really mad at players for doing the exact same thing that they would do if they were in that situation. You think every fan, you think every fan would, would just go for the max.

Cause everybody who's not an NHL player is an inherently greedy SOB that doesn't understand the value and taking a little less so your team can get a defenseman. I think it's, I still think that it's stunning that Brad Richards is the only player that's taken the 20%. Like you would think that by now, like there'd be someone else that goes like, I want all the money. I, I, I feel like I deserve 20%. And if you agree, pay me. If not, I'm going to go find someone else that will pay me the 20%.

Yeah. I'm still stunned that it's only happened once. Listen, I'm inherently a player's guy, right? And so get whatever you can. The sport is a meat grinder and you're best, you could be in this sport for five to six years, depending on what your injury curve is, or what the GMs think of you,

or else you could be out in Midegorsk by the end of it. That being said though, I also am somebody who understands that when you get yours, like you just said, someone else isn't getting theirs and the team might not get what they want in a capped environment. And so I don't begrudge players getting their, they're securing their bag, but I also don't begrudge fans for having an issue when they do because there is another domino that falls

if you get paid. But here's the thing. Which is that your team can't maybe be as good as it could be if you had taken a million dollars less. I get it. Let me get to one more point here because we're getting heavy on time here. The one further point on Ryan Reeves going to San Jose, I get there's a, there was a lot of talk after Reeves' comments, uh, and make please fans,

fans saying like, he only fought once last year and it was because they made an issue of it. And finally he had to fight Mathieu Olivier. There's one class of player that really doesn't VA, there's one class of player that really doesn't like to be traded. And that's a tough guy. You know why? Hmm. Why? When you go to a new market, you have to prove it all over again. It's true.

When you're like, if you just stay with the team, like Ty Dohme was a great example. Like Ty Dohme, at the time he settled into Toronto, he established the reputation, and he could surf on the reputation. He didn't have to fight 20 times a year, right? Because he had that rep. And then you get later into your career, and that's where Ryan Reeves is right now. And you're Ryan Reeves and you're going to a new market, you're going to San Jose. And what are San Jose Sharks fans thinking about Ryan Reeves? We've heard all these great things about this guy about how tough he is. Let's see and Now he's got to prove it all over again And if you basically have you basically have to fight in your first game against Vegas if you're Ryan Reeves, don't you?

Yes, I know you have to do that. Yes for her. Yes for aesthetics and also for for aesthetics and also for the internals. Yes, probably correct on that one, yes. You're probably right, you have to break the bond, for sure, if you're Ryan Reeves, you probably have to. But I always think about that, when tough guys get traded, it's gotta be so tough because you're going to a situation where it's like, I gotta go show everybody that I can do this.

This is really hard and this really sucks. And all the sleepless nights and the broken knuckles that I'm gonna have to go through all over again. Not only that, you gotta get on a text chain with the boys and then apologize to the one guy you beat the shit out of last year. It's kind of like a Sam Bennett, Brad Marshand situation large when you're Ryan Rees.

Remember when I kept hitting you and yelling, stay down, stay down? Yeah, really sorry about that. It's part of the job, you know. At least it didn't happen on a golf course in Canada. Sorry about your orbital bone. Yeah, I'm sorry about that one. Nick Tarnasso.

I wanted to ask you, I know we're up against time, but I wanted to ask you one thing about the CBA. Okay. So the players can endorse booze, I wanted to ask you, I know we're up against time, but I wanted to ask you one thing about the CBA. Okay. So the players can endorse booze, but they can't endorse weed, your thoughts? Because weed isn't legal everywhere, I get it. I understand that one. I don't like it, but.

Shouldn't it be like location by location? Kind of like, you know, the gambling stuff? I don't disagree, but then you're discount, but then aren't you like discounting other certain players from participating in financial activity to others are shut out from by way of their CBA. Listen, I'm not a lawyer. I just play one on a podcast. I'm sure there's a lawyer that says like, you know, probably

best just to leave that out that whole category out until it's legal everywhere. So now I agree with you just Just trust. Yeah. Dude, you know me. Trust me. I agree with you. 100%. Now we're so just so I'm clear. Now we're legislating geographic advantages financially for players with the weed issues when we do it.

Nothing else. That's it. I can't go there. Weed's not legal. I wonder how many players would have that. How can we? How can you turn down this team? Okay, you wouldn't wave, you know trade weeds illegal. That's right. I just want to say that That's why the Panthers keep winning their weed league. I don't even think weed is legal. It's not there a weed legal state Never my tax-free state what there I'm only going to a weed legal state. I want a player to come out and say that It's now the greatest recruitment recruitment line for the Rangers and Islanders. to a weed legal state. I want a player to come out and say that. It's now the greatest recruitment line

for the Rangers and Islanders. We're weed legal here in New York. Come join us. Natural painkiller. I'm happy about the, I'm very happy about the booze thing, by the way, which means, because I think that brings us the closest we've ever been to the 1980s Miller beer

aesthetics of having NHL players throwing chairs at each other in commercials and Channing less on Davidson. Let's really taste great. Yeah, like that's Davidson Is one of the best in the hockey commercials of all time? Oh, yeah You you want you want it you want to see the personalities of players put up in beer commercials Then you will see the personalities of players John the John Davidson Miller Commercialist that with all the goaltenders, they don't recognize each other until they put the masks on hey Tony Tony has this that one is one of my favorite hockey I'm talking about of all time keeping that all day. Well, what's one a time players?

They're like how many times have you I've seen I've got somewhere here in this stash of old hockey crap You know like Charlie Gardner advertising like cigarette companies. Go look at any old any old hockey magazines and you see players advertising booze and cigarettes and all kinds of stuff. I have a an old magazine advertisement in my house framed, which was it was from a magazine. It was an Olympic skier that was advertising cigarettes and being like, when I'm hurdling downhill, I know what I need for peak performances.

Yes. Lucky strike. When I hit that finish line, folks. When I'm darting down the hill, I need my darts. And don't forget kids, secondhand smoke is secondhand cool. Secondhand smoke is secondhand cool. Okay, that's our time to wrap. You sir have a good rest of your week and we will catch up soon.

I'm not sure when. Yeah, I'll see you in a couple weeks. The schedule is pretty infrequent right now. It's gonna be a little vacay time for your boy. Me too. So we obviously didn't talk about this before the podcast, so I'll just tell you this now. I'll probably see everybody in the great month of August, the way that things are trending vacation-wise for this tired young man. young in context, but tired.

Keep digging, keep digging, keep digging. I'm not gonna talk, you just keep digging. You just keep digging. All right, wish. All right, love you everybody, bye. There he is, the great Greg Wyshinski from ESPN and espn.com. Holy smokes, Vic, you're supposed to like rein us in a little bit, we're just going Broadway there.

It's four o'clock and I got to go get kids from hockey. But that's okay. It's part of the art commercials. Yeah. Dude, I'm sure you've seen all those old ads of guys like advertising cigarettes and beer and all that. I wish Gump Worsley were still alive. The original biz nasty Gump Worsley.

Recommend they call me Gump to everyone. It's still the best hockey book of all time He would advertise everything and he would drink all of it Come for Slee presented by a simply spiked. That's right. Count me in. Okay, we got to finish up here And thank everybody for for joining us either YouTube, on podcast or in the chat. The sheet is powered by FanDuel, home of the same game Parlay. Make every moment more on FanDuel.

FanDuel, proud to connect fans to the major sports moments that matter to them. Vic, what should we be paying attention to today? All right. Well, I got a bit of a different one here from Fandl. So these are the bubble teams for the 25-26 playoffs. All right. So Fandl has a list of everything that will make the playoffs. I picked the ones right on the bubble. Montreal on the bubble, eh? Yeah.

And see, it's funny because you mentioned a trade between Edmonton and Anaheim not happening. Or sorry, not Edmonton and Anaheim. What was the team you mentioned? Sorry, that's on the cusp with Vancouver. Vancouver, Vancouver, making a trade. But the Islanders gave the Montreal Canadians as you see on the screen there, the two bubble teams, they give them no adoption. So how do you feel about that?

Are those teams anywhere in the same boat right now for you? That's why, listen, that's one of the things that I really admire about Matthew Darsh. He's like, this is the best offer I can get. We're taking it. We're not worrying about anybody around us right now. We're not making trades based on what is this team gonna do

because he has enough confidence in himself as a manager, albeit a rookie manager to say, I don't care what other teams are doing, I'm making the best possible deal for us because I am building this team. And I'm gonna build it the way that I see fit. And if that means I gotta send a player like a good, like a first pairing D

to a team that I might be competing for for a playoff spot, that's fine because I'm building something for the longterm here, just as Montreal are building something for the longterm. It's not working out with no adoption. He's gotta move along, I'm taking my best deal. I'm taking my best deal. I love it, and I wish more general managers

would work in the same way, because I feel like the Toronto Maple Leafs get the short end of the stick a lot, because if we can't send them to Toronto, he'll make us look bad. I feel like that happens a lot. I mean, again, Revo thinks I'm crazy. We can't send him to Toronto because he has every Canadian team on his do not trade list. That's fair too. That's more like it. All right. One day I'll have to ask you what your no trade list would be, but we'll get to that in the next one. In the NHL? You know what? Okay, we're back on the air tomorrow. Let me think about that. That's a really great question I'm gonna give you a five team no trade. Okay, so it's not I got a five team no trade. Yeah

That's good All right, that's really good. Let's open the show. Can I do a shameless plug before we wrap here? Yeah, I'll have Zeve Booey Morning Cup of Hockey this week. So, uh, look out for that. So, is it going to be Demidov or Zeev Boyam for the Rookie of the Year next year? I think it's Demidov. I think Demidov is just going to take, I mean, Zeev Boyam is so good. I know, but do they get as much love back out in Minnesota? I feel like the hype train is just going to run wild with Demidov. And it pains me to say it, but they look really, really good on paper right now.

Hmm. All right. Well, we'll stay tuned for that tomorrow morning. Kapahaki, Ziv Boyam. We'll stop by the Star from the University of Denver, the pioneer now, of course, with the Minnesota Wild. Thanks so much for stopping by today. from the University of Denver, the pioneer, now of course with the Minnesota Wild. Thanks so much for stopping by today.

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