The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Let's Get Excited ft. Greg Wyshynski
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Sometimes you feel like you want to do roll call in the chat.
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Welcome to the program.
Glad to have you aboard today.
Still waiting for it to happen.
I'll be honest with you.
I thought by now it would have happened.
I would have got that little tickle like, get excited, Jeffy.
This is international hockey.
You've always loved this.
As a kid, your eyes were opened wide.
Ruggy, fancy, and you were always like, I'm going to win.
I'm going to win.
I'm going to win.
I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to happened. I would have got that little tickle like get excited Jeffy. This is international hockey
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Still no, I don't know. I don't think it's that I've
fallen out of love for international hockey either. It's
just, it's kind of where I'm at Zach Phillips, if that is
indeed your real name. It's kind of where I'm at. Still, are
you getting warmer to it? Are you getting the soap and warm
water feeling now? You getting all excited? Here we go.
Jordan Bennington's starting for Canada.
I can't wait.
I was holding on to this all day.
I started it this morning.
I was watching the morning cup of hockey and all of a sudden it was like, you know what?
I'm starting to feel it.
Maybe it's because I've got bats or maybe it's because I'm hearing it from people in
the US who are like, oh, you know I I'm other ego people in the u.s. Who are like
Oh, you know big Willie in the chat all the time. You're talking about it. I'm listening to the boys on the morning show and I'm like
You know what? Yeah, I'm in I'm in I want the kid. I wanted to kick the shit out of the u.s.
And I'm all the way in like I
Kind of care now. Okay, I'm excited tomorrow's gonna come around and I'm like, I'm not missing this game.
I've got to watch it.
Make no mistake about it.
I'm gonna watch all of it.
I'm gonna watch every single minute of every single game.
I just don't have that international hockey tingle that I normally get.
Maybe the problem is me Zach.
Maybe this is an issue for me and my therapist
Maybe it's not something that should be hanging out here in front of everybody every day
Grossing about how I can't get excited. I can't get excited about international hockey. It's like international hockey impotence
I just can't do it anymore doctor. I don't know what it is. The problem is I don't know what's wrong
anymore doctor I don't know what it is the problem is I don't know what's wrong it's gonna we're gonna have wish on for like an hour here today and maybe he can
poke and prod at you enough to get something fired all right well let's
get to that but first we'll get to the the daily outlines daily outlines
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as my international hockey therapy continues. I do have an update on the two officials that were assaulted in Seattle over the weekend. I'm going to bring that to you in a couple of moments. I
tweeted it out and I have a couple of more things to update as well. Greg Wyshinski for a good
friend from ESPN. It is Tuesday and that means MVSW reduux for all you old school MVSWers.
Four Nations Therapy, Four Nations Cheer Club,
Four Nations Light Some Kind of Fire Under Your Boy Here about this
four team international tournament.
Did you see the news about Jordan Bennington? And funny
videos. We put this out yesterday. This is after Jamie Benz's eighth goal
as Dallas beats the San Jose Sharks on Saturday and it's something that I'm
still laughing at. I'll still watch it Zach. I'll still watch Jamie Benz score on
a very lazy wrist shot, skate to the bench, no training down the down down the bench nothing and just sit his ass down. I'm still laughing about it
I know it's two days in a row here
Yeah, but I still find it really funny quick update before we get to wish the Seattle Kraken
Will be reaching out if they haven't already to the the two officials the two young officials the 13 and 14 year old who were
assaulted
Over the weekend in Seattle. They will be inviting them and their families to a game.
It sounds like they're going to do something really special for them.
I don't know, let them officiate.
That's what one person suggested to me.
But it sounds like some good is coming out of this that those two young gentlemen who
had the nerve to try to officiate a 12-U house league game. They will be going to a Seattle Kraken game
and you know Seattle it's a class organization they'll do something really
special for those kids as well. Not sure about the officials association the NHL
official association but I would imagine that they'll be reaching out if they
haven't already as well. So Seattle Seattle Kraken, major stick taps. As we say in French,
commandie en français, first star, la première étoile today, the Seattle Kraken. Let's bring
aboard Greg Wyshinski. Well, we got to wait for Wysh one second. We do? What's he doing? He was
just on like a second ago. He just texted me and said. So before the show starts, like he gets all
cued up, he's sitting there all cozy, ready to go, ready to spout off and insult people and provide us great clips that get people really
angry and then we want to throw to them.
Really angry.
So I turned around and there he was, gone.
Greg Wyshinski.
I even got all dressed up for him too today.
Thanks Wyshinski.
I knew.
Thanks buddy.
I've gotten more used to it now like working with you for
as this short period of time here I know when you're gonna like start to throw
and then you do right before then I'm like I get a text from wish gotta
reconnect real quick like oh no okay so he's just coming back or something
will be fine no no no we'll be fine but he's reconnect, no. We'll be fine. But he's reconnecting.
He's all vapid.
Can I ask you something?
He's all vapid.
Yeah, shoot.
You don't care about the Four Nations yet.
Or not excited about the Four Nations.
Again, I'm gonna watch all of it.
I'm gonna watch every minute.
I'm not gonna miss a second of it.
But, meh.
Well, I will get there.
As I think Wish is reconnecting here. And we can get to him on this one and maybe he has
some thoughts on this as well here, Jeff.
But I'm curious, have you looked at these goalie masks and dug into that?
They look great.
Do these excite you?
Yes, yes.
Those do.
I don't need the tournament.
I can just look at the masks.
I can just drive down the 404 and I can get to Young in Front Street and I don't need the tournament. I could just look at the masks. I could just, you know, drive down the 404 and I can get to to Young in Front Street and I can go to
the Hockey Hall of Fame and I can see some really cool masks there too. Yeah,
fair enough. Like 20 minutes away from me. I can go any time, maybe 30. I can go
anytime. I'm gonna try. But yeah, now that I'm excited, I'm going to try to drag you.
You're going to try to drag me in?
I'm going to try to get in.
All right. Like I can go, like I'm excited about the masks.
The masks look really good. Masks look good.
I've seen some of the goalie kits. They look good.
The nationalistic goalie kits, they look really fantastic.
And that's all fine.
But like it's a four country, again, like I was saying yesterday,
just, you know what I'd be excited about?
Canada versus US, five games, go.
Yeah.
That's what I would be excited about.
He's good?
Yeah, he's good.
All right.
Hey, Wish.
What's up?
That was not like a connection issue, right?
Like, what was it?
Like quick bong hit. What's up? That was not like a connection issue, right? Like what was it like?
Quick bong hit.
So apparently, apparently my Disney.
Whiskey soda.
What was it?
My Disney corporate overlords have set my browser to occasionally have to be restarted
and I had 40 minutes left on the browser before it automatically restarted.
So I can either do it right before I hop on or I'm gonna be like mid thought
and then it just like kills it.
I don't, I mean, listen, I like you struggled a little bit
in getting excited for this tournament,
but I gotta admit.
Are you there?
I gotta admit that hearing Jordan Bennington
as a starting goaltender for Canada
was like a wheelbarrow full of Cialis being poured
down my throat I am I am like a Titan rocket right now thinking about Canadian
goaltending in this tournament Wow he barely has a he barely has enough loose
skin to blink right now because Jordan he just found out that Jordan Bennington is
the starting netminder
for Team Canada against Sweden. Blink to make sure, okay, you can blink so you're not fully erect yet.
Let me put you on the couch for a moment. I'll play Dr. Floyd for you.
Get me excited about this, doctor. I'm just not there yet. I don't know.
So you're not excited because it's a fake tournament, correct? That's the reason why you're not excited?
Two things. One, it's a fake tournament. Two? That's the reason why you're not excited? Two things, one, it's a fake tournament.
Two, I mentioned this on the show ad nauseam yesterday.
In the spirit of just give the people what they want,
you know what I'd be excited about?
Yeah.
Canada versus US, best of five.
Give me that, and I'm, forget it, I got,
Stanley Cup, who cares?
Like just give me Canada, US, best of five.
I don't disagree with you that for me and you
and for everybody listening to the pod,
most of the people listening to the pod,
that's the most exciting thing that could happen.
If you really wanna get us excited about the Olympics,
give us five games, three to five games
of this generation of young players
representing Canada, representing the US,
and going toe to toe.
And then you kind of eliminate the,
for lack of a better example, USA Finland of it all,
which is a game that has to happen in this tournament.
And that none of us really know how it will be played,
what it will look like, how many
people will be in the stands for it.
It would get, it would cut to the chase.
Now the good thing about Four Nations is that we're guaranteed to cut to the chase once.
Saturday is going to be one of the greatest days in recent hockey history.
For us.
Well, hang on.
Or one of the worst.
No, I disagree.
Finland and Sweden don't know how to play a game that's not nasty and Sweden. Hang on, or one of the worst. No, I disagree. Finland and Sweden don't know how to play a game
that's not nasty and competitive.
I believe that.
And the fact that game is on in prime time
in Sweden and Finland,
even if those guys don't care at all about this tournament,
and after talking to some Swedes, I don't think they do.
Like they care more about like worlds than this tournament,
which is really saying something.
But that game's gonna matter
because they know their friends are watching back home.
And we obviously know that the USA Canada game
is gonna matter because it's gonna be Bell Center,
20,000 Canadian fans waving little flags.
They're gonna boo the anthem.
The USA kids wanna beat the Canadian kids and vice versa.
Crosby, McDavid, the Kachucks, Eichel,
they don't know how to play a game
that's not nasty and competitive when it's in this environment.
Like that's gonna be worth the price of admission.
And then you could take or leave the rest of this event
for two weeks.
Bill Beck in the chat with the early candidate
for line of the chat today.
Greg is planning on shampooing a family of baby bears.
That's true.
Call Werner Herzog, I'm gonna be grizzly man.
Yeah, oh man, one of my favorite documentaries. That's true. Call Werner Herzog. I'm gonna be Grizzly Man. Yeah.
Oh man, one of my favorite documentaries.
Oh, oh, the most, one of the most psycho documentaries I've ever seen in my life.
Shout out Timothy Treadwell.
I know the late, spoiler, the late Timothy Treadwell.
Spoiler, he's hanging out with a lot of grizzly bears.
Spoiler, he doesn't make it to the end of the documentary.
No, but here's the thing.
You've gotta be excited about Saturday, right?
I'm interested in Saturday.
You're interested.
No, because I just can't get excited.
You think that game's not gonna be competitive?
No, I think it'll be a competitive game.
Trust me, by the time Saturday rolls around, I'll probably be into this.
Like, I'm gonna watch every... it's not like, oh, I'm gonna tune out, like, oh, Canada, Sweden, like, I'm not gonna...
Of course I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch all of it. Like, I'm not gonna miss a single minute of this tournament.
But this isn't... I can't compare this to any of the old Canada Cups, World Cups, Olympics, any of it.
And you know, I'll tell you what, like the kind of the Malays for me kind of started in 2016.
Well, really, there have been a couple, like some real bummer moments in international hockey.
And the biggest bummer moment was 2004.
Like that was the biggest bummer tournament in the history of international hockey.
You know why, Greg?
And I'm going to tell you why.
Because we all knew 24 hours after that tournament ended, what was going to happen?
NHL players were getting locked out.
They went from Canada wins and then 24 hours later, there's Gary Batman at the podium announcing
a lockout, which ended up scrubbing a season and it was like this is the last hockey we're gonna see for a long time
here like we all know this one was gonna be a lengthy lengthy lockout so that was
a bummer and then 2016 was it was really interesting because it gave us Team
North America which was super cool and that game and I was so glad that I was in the stands.
Actually, you know who I was sitting next to
watching that North America-Sweden game,
which in this generation is one of the best hockey games
ever, Cynics at Tallardello.
Just on a random, it's like a Tuesday afternoon,
Wednesday after, whenever it was, an afternoon game.
And I was working at doing Facebook live shows
with Colby Armstrong and Ryan Whitney, and I was just like, okay, I got some time.
I'm going to watch North America in Sweden, which was maybe the best.
Well, I shouldn't say maybe it was the best game of the tournament.
It was phenomenal. Great, great hockey. It was a, no, it was a low bar.
But if you put that, that exact game in any international tournament, Greg,
aren't you saying like, that's a tremendous game. It's a phenomenal game. But it was also tremendous because it was the chance to see all those U-23
kids together. They all cared. And so this is this is the part that has me excited. Like,
I'm genuinely excited to see McDavid on Team Canada and McCarr on Team Canada. We've not seen
it before. I'm generally excited to see Michael Matthews, the Kachucks, Jack Hughes, all these guys
represent the US for the first time in their careers in a best-of-best tournament.
We really mean an NHL-endorsed tournament, right, is what we kind of mean.
So to see that, remember the old itch the All-star game used to scratch, dude, you know, where the joy of the all-star game was, are you telling me that Wayne Gretzky will skate in the same game on the same side as Jeremy Roenick?
That kind of thing used to be the reason you watched. And that was kind of itch that this will scratch for me.
I just I want to see it first. I need to see it first.
I need to see it first.
I need to see it again.
Like the runway for this one is not there for me this time around.
Maybe again, like I was saying off the top of the show, this is all me.
Am I just becoming like old jaded grumpy guy about international hockey?
Because this is my favorite love.
Like international hockey is like my favorite thing in the world.
But I love seeing,
like I love it when the NHL goes overseas to see how that culture treats hockey,
how that country treats hockey. You get in the, the, the,
the trolley tracks here in North America of this is the way we present hockey.
This is the way we play hockey. This is how the fans behave. This is the merchandise.
This is, this is all of it that goes, this is the commentary, etc.
And then you go and you see hockey in Europe and you're like, well, there are other ways
to enjoy and consume and present this wonderful sport.
Like I still love international hockey.
It's just this one isn't there at all for me.
Again, it may all change tomorrow when Canada faces off against
Sweden and loses four to three and
everybody gets nervous. Right? And
Biddington's pulled in the first.
Someone's injured. Someone's injured.
Oh god, here we go. But you know
what, I was having this
conversation with someone yesterday
that for Team Canada,
I was mentioning something on the show yesterday.
Let me do anything about this one.
I believe between Canada and the United States,
whoever loses this tournament actually wins.
And here's why.
Okay.
Hang on. Work with me on this one.
Work with me on this one. And trust me, hang on.
And Canada just went through this with the juniors.
Define lose, though. Losing the championship or not make the championship?
Either way.
Either way. Don't win.
There's going to be three losers here.
Okay?
Okay.
If Canada doesn't win, the United States doesn't win, they actually win.
And here's why.
The real prize is the Olympics.
The real prize is what happens next year.
Okay?
That's the real prize.
And I've seen it too many times and I've seen it too many times
You've seen it too many times
Canada gets ridiculed for it too many times most recently five minutes ago on Ottawa the world juniors
They get lulled into making really bad
emotional decisions based on things like loyalty to the program when it comes to selecting their team. If Canada destroys this tournament, is there not gonna be an
element of, well even though Brad Marchand is 38 years old, you know, he was
really good at the Four Nations and you sort of have seen it before. Hockey Canada can
get lulled into making decisions based on well they won last time let's keep
the band together with the same philosophy and not worry about who's
actually playing well and what might work in the Olympics because these guys
just won the Four Nations face-off. Shout out to Doughty. Yeah. Again, yeah, remember like, oh, Drew, like,
awesome Vancouver 2010. He was like the seventh defense, but next thing you know, he's like,
or anchoring our power play. Like, yes, I know, but like this has been a long time here now and
might be time to say goodbye to some of these guys. And I think it's a lot easier to do it.
If your eyes on the prize for the Olympics Olympics if Canada doesn't do well at this tournament
What do you think of that? I?
think two things first of all
The unsaid thing here for you, and it's something that I always have to point out as the American speaking on Canadian media
Is that essentially what you're doing is setting up
another bullshit Canadian underdog story.
That's why Vancouver felt so good
is because you guys lost in the prelims to the US.
And so then when you won,
it wasn't just winning the gold medal on home ice.
It was also overcoming the odds.
You guys love it when you can pretend to be the underdog.
And this would just help reestablish that.
Reestablish, you know, you guys against the evil empire of the US.
It's like you were against the evil empire of the Soviets and all this other nonsense.
I don't know. No, no, no. I don't look at it like that.
You guys love being the underdog, even though you have the greatest hockey talent in the world every single tournament.
You see, this is where I differ and this is what makes me horribly unpopular amongst a
lot of people.
Because I think what you're talking about is 1972, right?
And Canada setting it's, oh, it's a great comeback against the evil empire and, oh,
look at these guys.
What did they feed?
Oh, it's the Soviet training. They vanished to the black sea for two months
and they come back and you can't even lift up their sticks.
Hand out the Dixie cups.
We don't like all that crap, right?
So, so I'm of the, I'm of the belief that when it came to 1972,
Canada thinks the most important game was game eight when Henderson scored.
I think the most important game in that tournament was game number one at the forum when the
Soviets dismantled Canada and all of a sudden everything changed.
Everything that's been like that moment in the forum in Montreal, game one, when Canada lost, there were a lot of people that maintained and I'm one of them.
That was the actual birth of international hockey.
Because there was always that idea that, oh well, we don't send the pros to the world championships, oh we don't send the NHLers, they are so much for far superior.
When Canada lost in game one, everything changed. Everything
changed and that began true international hockey. And what happened afterwards? There was Canada
Cup 76 and that was a really successful turn and etc. etc. And we can go on and then the rise of
the World Junior Hockey Championships and in through now and there's been, you know,
come here, go away, come here, go away with the Olympics.
But hopefully that can, we can have a robust
international schedule, which is not just Olympic
participation, but also a World Cup of Hockey
every four years as well.
So, you know, you get your two years of international
and your two years of All-Star and those year breaks
every year for the guys.
I just, I don't look at it as if I need my country to set up, um, to set up this Davian Goliath type metaphor.
I really don't. Because at the end of it, I don't care. Like, I'm a Canadian that's happy that other countries are really good.
Because my entire life, my entire life, I've always said,
like, this is such a great game.
Why don't other countries understand that?
And now they're under other countries understand that specifically the United
States and they're getting better than Canadians at it.
All of a sudden, my country said, whoa, whoa, whoa, we wanted you to like this
and get good at it, but not so good that you would beat us.
I've always found that really annoying. We've exported, helped export this
wonderful game. Americans have paid attention, love it and are getting better
at it, if not already better at it than we are. So I don't care about Canada
winning or anybody winning. I just care about the game getting more popular and
more people picking up sticks. I'm intrigued to see what happens if the US
wins because you know we've worn the underdog uniform since 1980 maybe even
before that. It's been our nature to believe that we enter these tournaments.
Congratulations you beat up a bunch of hungover Russians.
Well done, kids.
And we design our teams like in Sochi to try to beat Canada one nothing because we simply
could not, could not stand toe to toe with the Canadian offensive machine.
We had to bring Ryan Callahan to the Olympics.
We had to do all of these things
because we inherently couldn't be as good
as Canada or the Soviets.
Oh, we are.
And so I'm intrigued to see what happens
if the US wins this tournament.
I'm intrigued to see what happens
if they beat Canada in Bell Center
and then they end up winning what was a very dirty trophy. I don't know why they couldn't shine that bad boy up before
CJ took a picture of it before. You can find it on Twitter. It's very, it's very, I touched
the bathroom mirror too many times. And I'm intrigued to see what that is. Is there swagger
inherent to American hockey? Because there's swagger inherent to America and World Juniors now.
Like we don't want to believe that we don't belong.
We go to World Juniors expecting to win as we've done three out of five times.
So if they run through this tournament and it's Eichel and Matthews and the Kachaks and Hughes
and all these guys playing to their abilities and skating the Canadians out of the rink
and winning the gold medal of the rink and winning
the gold medal.
What does that mean psychologically to 2026?
Does that mean we no longer enter the Olympics thinking, well, we've got to uphold the virtues
of 1980 and somehow overcome the odds?
Or do we walk into the Italian Olympics with the theme song from Shaft playing in our minds?
Because that's how much swagger we have at this point.
Ooh, that's really good.
Can I ask you a frivolous question?
Always.
Cup or plate?
What do you prefer as an award?
When it comes to hockey, we award things
that we put on the dinner table, either cups or plates.
I don't know what it is about hockey,
but it's a cup that you win at the end of the year
at the NHL.
Now, you know, the world juniors is a cup.
I like, personally, I miss the era of plates, whether to hand out the
championship plate. Do you have a preference handing out a cup or a plate?
Should your trophy be something you drink from or eat off of? I can't believe
you didn't include paperweight from the Fortress of Solitude gift drop like we
had at the World Cup. Why wasn't that one of the choices?
You know what?
Paperweight was the 2004 one as well.
I remember watching Mario look at that thing and like, I have to, I have to hold this.
What do I, what do I smoke out of it?
What is this thing?
I've always found it interesting the way that hockey's all just about eating and drinking.
We celebrate it with our awards.
Here's a plate.
I'll be honest. Here's a plate. Here's a cup.
I'll be honest with you, I'm a cup guy.
I actually think the only plate in sports
that I really like is Wimbledon.
Wimbledon?
Like to see someone win at Wimbledon
and then hold up the big plate
is always one of my favorite things.
I always think of like Serena holding up the big plate.
But give me a cup all the time in hockey.
I mean, we're a drinking sport.
There it is.
Again, is it just the way the metal is or whatever?
Because that thing looks dirty.
Yeah.
It looks like one of your uncles all bowling trophies
in the back of the living room.
I don't know what's going on here with the trophy.
Where's that gonna go in the Hall of Fame Resource Center?
Cause could you pop that one up there one more time, Zach,
for all of our viewers on YouTube?
That's a one and done.
Like that trophy is made for one event.
There's not gonna be like multiple-
It literally has the year on the bottom, yeah.
Like this is the only time you're gonna do this.
And maybe that's part of why I'm just not there yet.
Cause I just know that there's not gonna,
this isn't like, this isn't gonna be on any calendar.
There's not gonna be another four nations face off.
And even the NHL was, like, I gotta give them credit
because even the NHL was like, ah, we had to do something.
You know, it's like, remember when Crosby was beacons
about the Olympics, like, ah, give the baby his bottle.
Like, we gotta do something here.
We gotta do some kind of something.
Okay, here's four nations face off.
Like that's gonna go from whoever wins it
to the Hockey Hall of Fame Resource Center,
not the Hall of Fame.
Well, it might be up for a little bit in the Hall of Fame.
And then it's gonna stick it in the Resource Center
and it's gonna sit there gathering dust.
And it's gonna be a collector's item.
Yeah, but they get gold, they get gold medals too,
which is pretty cool.
Every young hockey player likes a gold medal.
Do you think part of your issue with this, and by the way, I just want to say before
I say this, I respect that you're honest with your, with your feelings.
I think we have some colleagues that are constantly begging for more international hockey.
They get this tournament and they treat the thing like it's the Olympics.
It's not they're they're they're giving it import and coverage that goes beyond
What it actually is hang on which is the midseason replacement for the all-star game that has at least a modicum more relevance
How many tweets did you see today announcing Jordan Bennington?
starting for team Canada
This is what I'm talking about
And also lines of practice and everything.
I mean, it's just, you know, it's too much.
But listen, I will say, so that's, I want to, I want to celebrate your contrarianism
to that regard.
I'm not being contrarian.
I'm honestly, I feel like this way legitimate.
Like there are some moments in your career where you take a adversarial stance on an
issue just because
it's going to produce good conversation. But no, really, I'm just not there. I'm just not there.
No, no, no, we've both done it. Do you think part of the problem is that you've gotten to see,
you've gotten to see the movie after reading all the spoilers? Like, you know why this tournament
exists. It exists. They couldn't find a way to put Russia in a world cuppy thing because then Sweden and Finland wouldn't participate.
Do you feel like you know too much about history of how we got here to really respect this as anything other than a real gimmicky affair?
I don't know that I've thought about it that much. I don't know that I've actually tried to intellectualize why I've done this. This is just, I'm just, I'm just spilling.
I'm just like on this show, I'm just like,
cause I just like, I'm at a point in my career
where I just don't care.
So it's like, this is how I feel about things.
This is how I feel like no BS.
Like this is, I just, I can't.
Oh, and you were always so demure and reserved
in your opinions.
No, but no, but like you weren't for a rights holder.
It's gotta be like, all right, everybody, here we go.
This is the Olympic. I can't, I can't, I can't do it. I can't do it. Anyhow, you know, we like, alright everybody, here we go, this is the Olympic.
I can't, I can't do it.
I can't do it.
Anyhow, you know, we're spending a lot on this.
We're spending a lot.
Can I just say something though?
Yeah.
Can I just say something though?
I think where I am, I'll put a bow around it.
Like, I'm much more optimistic than you are that this is gonna be good.
I think Saturday is gonna be great.
Like, I think we're gonna be talking about Saturday and Saturday night for a very long time. And then if they, we have the good fortune of
seeing the USA and Canada again in Boston for the championship, oh, Katie bar the door, we're going
to have a hell of a good time. Can we put that in Philly by the way? Yeah, if, just can we call it
one off? Can we just, just for the nastiness factor, Boston's nasty, but if you want like the
nasty factor, ratchet it up.
If that's the final, can we have it in Philadelphia? Sure, or put it in Buffalo so we can have a split
house. How dope would that be? Uh, we're all agree with you as this. I have a real, I can't get over
calling it a best on best tournament. Like I'm going to try to refer to this thing going on going forward as an NHL tournament
because best on best without the Russians,
without Pasternak, without Drisital, without the Swiss.
That's hard, man.
It's hard to really like kayfabe a best on best.
The first time we're seeing Austin Matthews
in a best on best
Although Nikita Kuturov isn't there like it's coming. Is this is part of me that can't do it
Is this that is this the part of you that's like I can't go along with?
WrestleMania 3. Oh look at Andre finally got body slammed when a quick check on YouTube
Show whether it's Harley Race or Kinect or whomever.
Take your pick.
This is the part of me, this is three degrees away from the part of me that's like, can
you really call it the World Series if no teams from Japan are in it?
Like there's a part of me that believes that too.
Hang on, is this true that the reason it's called the World Series is because it was originally sponsored by the World Newspaper
out of Chicago, and even though that newspaper no longer exists,
maybe it's because of sports arrogance, they just kept the
term the World Series, but it really was a sponsorship from the
World Newspaper. Is that true? I don't know, I always assumed it was American
hubris, and speaking of that, we talked about in the show about the political undercurrent for
this tournament and how it's very hard for me to do the usual Greg Wyshinski is a jingoistic
patriot act. And I know when real world events have made it very difficult. That being said,
I have again, this show is nothing if not. Greggy and Jeff are very honest with everybody.
And I will be honest with you,
there was a moment this morning,
and I don't want it to ever happen again,
but there was a moment this morning
when I briefly thought to myself,
if they did become the 51st state,
that means we'd have access to McDavid,
McCarr, and McKinnon in perpetuity.
And no one would ever beat us at anything.
Yes.
And that was, I shut it off.
I don't wanna think that way
because it would be horrible
and I hate everything that's happening right now.
But there was a part of me that briefly thought
McDavid and Kajux, that'd be something, wouldn't it?
Weird on this one too, is we all know what's going to happen when the U.S. Anthem is played.
Oh yes, we do. But the dynamic is like, and I can just speak for myself. Like I understand it. I think we all do, but it's not as if bluntly,
it's not as if Canadians hate Americans or hate America.
No, right?
Like at all.
Like I've spent countless hours lately,
obviously talking to my American friends and there's been a
whole lot of like, oh I can't believe this. Like and on both sides. It's very
embarrassing. It's awful and I know what's gonna happen on Saturday,
but I don't think, like it's a weird dynamic because I don't think that
anyone's just venting on this as like, now all of a sudden I hate my buddy Greg in New York like no I don't.
You don't. Right? Like it's not like that. It's about one very specific issue and I just yeah I
just hope that that doesn't get turned into something other than what it is. Put it this way
it's a very Canadian way it's a very Canadian way to feel and I understand that like my Canadian is showing here
I don't want him. I don't want like my American friends to think that this is our comment on them
This is about a very specific
issue
That not all of our friends are lined up in agreement with. I think you know what I'm trying to say here, Greg.
Like I don't, I just don't want it to be,
I just don't want it to turn into something that it's not.
And this isn't, well now Canadians hate Americans
because that's not true.
It's about one very specific thing
that has nothing to do with that.
Like, I hope not.
I hope not. I hope it doesn't. But it will though.
Like it, I mean, that's just kind of how it works, right? It's building up the adversarial
relationship through certain media outlets. I mean, that's just how it is. Look, I think
Americans by and large, for the most part, kind of see this thing as, you know, having that friend
you've got to apologize for. You know, everybody's got that friend. You kind of like this thing as having that friend you've got to apologize for. Everybody's got that friend.
You kind of walk out of the bar.
Oh, he's here.
The friend has already staggered back out to the pickup truck.
And you turn around to the bartender and you're just like, I'm sorry.
We don't.
We have to.
We do this a lot now.
This is something that just happens.
And here's 20 bucks for the glass that he broke and, you know, and we kind of just are living our lives knowing that there's
somebody in our lives that is breaking a lot of glasses and ruining a lot of experiences
at bars for us right now, if you know what I'm saying.
So that's kind of how we're going through life right now.
Okay, let's park the World Cup stuff or World Cup, Four Nation stuff right now.
Anything else you want to add to this one?
Because we've done a lot on something
that I'm not really that interested in.
But it's good to talk it, it's good for me to talk it out.
We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Again, I will watch everything.
I just, meh.
I know, of course we will all.
I feel really, I feel kind of shocked
by how many guys are playing in it, to be honest with you.
Like there are certain players that are.
Did you think it was gonna be a domino
after Alex Patrangelo?
He did.
I thought it was gonna be, or around the Queen Hughes thing.
Like I really thought there'd be more guys
taking the break.
Okay, here's a question.
And with the NHL not having there be any punishment
for opting out, I really thought more players
would.
But maybe it's indicative of how excited they are.
Oh, there is one thing I wanted to say, which is that if you are looking for this to be
an appetizer to 2026, you have to acknowledge that there is something on the line for like
half the roster for the U.S. and Canada, which is that, you know, we know who is going to
be there.
But there's also a lot of players
that are playing for their spots. Seth Jarvis is playing for a spot. And some of the guys that
are in the bottom six in the US are playing for a spot in the Olympics because they're looking
over their shoulder and seeing Clayton Keller and Tage Thompson and Cole Caulfield and a bunch of
other guys that didn't make the cut ready to hop in if they don't perform. So I do think that there
is something interesting about this tournament vis-a-vis what we'll see in 2026 if they don't perform. So I do think that there is something interesting
about this tournament vis-a-vis what we'll see in 2026.
I don't know how much the USA brain trust,
for example, will look at this and say,
well, this guy went over in three games
and we obviously can't have him
on the Olympic team or whatever.
But I do think that these guys are approaching it
as in some cases, like
Brock Nelson, for example, like this is my audition to make sure that they know that
they I'm important to a to a to a win in in Italy.
If this was the Olympics and not the four nations are Quinn Hughes and Alex Patrangelo
playing yes, Quinn Quinn Hughes is playing for the Canucks this week if they were Canucks.
Rick Tuckett said as much.
Yeah.
I mean, Rick Tuckett said as much.
Okay.
So yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
So, um, Jay Rock.
So Jeff Hates International play.
Oh my God, you don't know me at all.
Like I love international hockey.
It's like, it's my first love.
Um, but good.
Um, okay. A few things. Okay, a few things.
A little bit, the sounds of my youth died.
Can I tell you about Paul Morris?
Please.
So Paul Morris was the voice of Maple Leaf Gardens.
I don't know if you have like these attractions
to like voices from your past.
I've told you before about my love for Ted Darling,
who I will always, with all due respect
to the late Rick Jenneret and Dan Dunleavy,
who I think is a very underrated play caller.
The voice to me of the Buffalo Sabres is always Ted Darling.
That's the one I grew up on.
And the voice that I grew up on going to Maple Leaf Gardens
was Paul Morris, who passed away yesterday.
It's like the voices, I don't know why,
I don't even know that I have a point here,
other than I just want to make mention that
Paul Morris and anyone that went to Maple Leaf Gardens, he had like a very measured tone. It didn't matter what happened
He wasn't rising there with the audience or falling with the audience on a sad moment
It was that old school very much my voice can't editorialize
Which is gone now, right? Like everything and I understand why, like everything is like editorialize, editorialize with your voice, raise and lower.
Paul Morris was just that one constant voice, which actually made big moments bigger.
Because when the place would go nuts, he wouldn't rise to it to add a log to the fire.
The place would rise to a level,
like Gilmore scores the wraparound goal
and the place goes nuts, but the announcement is here.
The announcement is much lower and much more measured
and not editorial, and that makes the reaction
that much more pronounced.
That's missed now in the NHL.
I just wanna make mention of Paul Moore's passing away. That's all, a voice ofL. I just want to make mention of Paul Morris passing away.
That's all. A voice of my youth, Craig. Voice of my youth. The voice of my youth was the opposite of
that. It was shot by Crosby, save Brunard, rebound, Malkin, save Brunard, waffle, farted away and play
has stopped. No, but that's a play. No, but that's Doc,. But that's Doc, he's the play-by-play voice.
I'm talking about the in-house announcer, Paul Morris.
Like, Paul was like, goal scored by number 27,
Darrell Sittler assists number 21, Boria Salome.
Like that was-
You're saying less about editorial than him being,
having like the fact that announcers are all hype people
now inside of the arena.
They're part of the entertainment.
They're part of the entertainment.
They're part of the entertainment.
And I get it.
They're part of hockey operations. That of the I get it the part of operation
That's what people operate. That's what people want and that's cool. I just think that yeah, there's there's still room in my hockey world for the
right down the middle
non editorializing
Announce the goal I kind of I kind of like would be curious to see what that would sound like in the modern NHL
So do I.
Having a PA announcer who when there's a power play simply says,
it's now time for a power play.
Yes, yes. 100%.
It's time for the energy.com power play.
Yes, 100%. I do want to hear that. I do miss it.
I understand where, you know, we all understand how the game is presented now and everything's part of the entertainment and get the crowd revved and all that kind of stuff.
But I do want to hear what that would sound like in today's day and age. Because you go back and listen, like it really, more than anything else, it really pronounces how big a moment is by underselling it
with the goal announcement,
because the crowd just carries it.
You just allow the crowd to carry it.
You don't be part of the river going downstream.
You just let that crowd carry it.
Anyway, Paul Maurice has passed away.
Paul Morris, rather.
Paul Maurice, no, Paul Maurice still very much alive.
I just killed Paul Maurice.
Sorry, Paul, apologize.
Sorry about that, buddy. Paul Morris. Morris Paul Maurice that's speaking for 45 minutes straight about how someone said he died
Quick someone tweet that America now sing on the sheet. Can you my quiz for you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, please
We're just sort of rambling along today, by the way, on the program, everybody here.
So, did you see who retired?
I want to let everyone know that one of us
tried to be organized.
I asked Zach,
hey, is there a rundown? And then both Zach and Merrick
laughed at me. They laughed at me.
They physically
guffawed at me for
inferring that there should be some level of organization for this show.
No. SpinFrog, by the way, thanks for the heart attack, Jeff. Spin. I was kidding. I just
stepped on my tongue. I just bought a new tongue yesterday and I'm breaking it in with Greg.
Give me, got me a little slack here.
Okay. So I did prepare something.
I've prepared something, Greg.
Justify your paycheck, Merrick.
So did you see who passed away?
Did you see who retired yesterday?
Who?
Oh, Louie Erickson.
Yeah, I'm glad you got excited.
Yeah.
So why do we always talk about Louie Erickson?
Louie Erickson is the greatest example.
So Louie Erickson? Louie Erickson is the greatest example.
So, Louie Erickson, for about eight years straight,
was the most underrated player in the NHL.
And Merrick and I would always be like,
how many years does it take before you're rated?
At the very least rated. Not overrated, just rated.
Like, by year five of of winning most underrated players
At that point correct, it's great. It's so good
So Louie Erickson Louie Erickson retires
Louie Erickson played
1050 NHL games
Okay, it's a really good player and concussions caught up to him.. Eventually he was a sort of shell of himself by time he got to Vancouver.
Uh, wonderful player with the Dallas stars part of the Tyler Sagan trade. I thought he played really well in Boston too.
Um, until the conkeys and then slowly, but surely year after year, it just
wasn't there for Louie Erickson, but he scored 613 points in his career. He was part of
the 2003 draft. Maybe not the best draft of all time but top five. Top five draft
of all time 2003. What'd you say? Make everybody got players? Okay I'm gonna
give you some... Except for one. What's that? Except for one, isn't that? Oh yeah, was that Dylan McElrath?
No, not Dylan McElrath.
No, no, no, Hugh Jessamyn.
Huge specimen, that's right.
Was that 2003?
Yeah, huge specimen, yeah.
Huge specimen, yes.
Ranges, ranges.
So I'm gonna ask you,
I'm gonna give you a player's name from the 2003 draft.
Just a few, just a little bit of spice on the show today.
So, did this player score more points than Louis Erickson?
Louis had 613, you said?
Correct.
Okay.
Did this player have more or less points than Louis Erickson?
Starting with Ryan Kessler.
Ooh.
He had, he, I'm gonna say less.
You are correct.
Yeah, injuries.
Less points, Kessler has 573 and played 50 less games.
That's good.
Yeah, injuries.
Probably had more points than in the playoffs though.
My God, Kessler was such a warrior in the playoffs.
Okay, Dustin Brown.
More points or less points than Louie Eriksen?
Had to be more points.
He had first line minutes with Kopitar.
Gonna go more points.
Dustin Brown, more points Dustin Brown more points
712 almost exactly a hundred more points. Well, you done you don't know the statue of the man if he had fewer points than
That's the bar in Los Angeles. Did he have more points to Louie Erickson? Give that man a frickin statue
Shay Weber. Oh
Let's see defenseman but a power play specialist.
I'll say, I'll say fewer points.
You're right.
You're three for three on this one.
You're like me last week with Ovechkin.
I, I, I study the-
You know you're Louie Erikson.
I study the teachings of Louie Erikson.
The way of Lou.
The way of Lou. The way of Lou. The way of Lou.
The way of Lou.
Okay, Ryan Suter.
Speaking of Shea Weber's old partner with Nashville,
Ryan Suter.
Yeah, and he looks a lesser offensive defenseman
than Weber, played for a really long time.
Like more than Weber.
Still playing.
6'13, I think he might, I think he got over the hump. Like, more than Weber. Still playing. 613...
I...
I think he might... I think he got over the hump. I think... I'm gonna say more than Ericsson.
You're amazing.
This is one of your best performances.
Is that right?
Yeah, you're 4 for 4.
Oh, brilliant.
I'm gonna give you two more.
How long is his total?
What's his total?
So far, Ryan Suter is at 691 points.
Yeah, that's... He's a compiler.
I mean, let's be honest. Well, I mean, he's a compiler. I mean, let's be honest.
Well, I mean, yeah, 1500 games. Yeah.
That's a lot of games, dude.
That's a lot of games, man. I like hockey, but I don't like hockey that much.
1500 games. Holy smokes, jeez.
What games can you play, bud?
Jeff hates hockey and international hockey.
Jeff just hates everything today.
Oh man.
Okay.
David Backus.
Oh wow.
All right.
Had some decent offensive years for St. Louis.
Sure did.
Did not have the longevity thing
and it wasn't really good early on offensively.
So I'm gonna say less than.
You're right.
You're five for five. Okay, one more. Yeah. One. So I'm gonna say less than you're right. You're five for five
Okay, one more. Yeah one more. I'm gonna make this a good one. I'm gonna make this a good one. Oh
I go
Mike Richards
All right, it's top line minutes in Philly less than top line minutes in LA
613 Mike Richards, injuries, some good years.
I'm gonna say more than.
Less than.
Oh, you were right there.
Ah, damn it.
You were building the case to say less.
Yeah, I thought me.
Why did you do that?
Hang on, wait, hang on.
Let's get a, let's get a, hang on. Let's get a peek. Open up
your skull for a second. You just built the case for why he was going to have less and
then completely doubted yourself and said more. What's going up with your mind tank?
I thought that maybe he had some really good offensive years in Philly before he went to
the Philippines. He did. But you built the case properly and then you totally didn't believe yourself.
You know, but putting me on the couch,
like is there anything you wanna share with the group now,
Greg?
You know what it's like, it's like Merrick,
it's like driving all the way to the Canadian border
and then you just get stopped
because you have something in your car.
That's how that whole quiz felt like.
Is that how that all works out?
Well, you were close.
You were close.
You were right there.
And by the way, do you know who the leading score
from that 2003 draft is in that 2003 NHL draft?
One of the best drafts of all time.
Eric Stahl, Patrice Bergeron, Ryan Getslap,
Corey Perry, Zachary.
It has to be Stahl, right?
He's got more points than Getslaff, right?
He does.
He's not number one.
Who has more than both of them?
Joe Pavelski, seventh round.
Yeah, that'll do it.
Joe Pavelski.
I remember that draft.
Remember we looked at that draft and like,
man, this is gonna be like the best draft class of all time,
like all these Hall of Famers and blah, blah, blah.
Joe seventh round Pavelski, who finishes with 1068 points.
San Jose Sharks never recovered for letting him go.
That's a man that'll be watching the four nations face off.
Let me tell you what, Joe Pavelski.
That is a cut him and he bleeds red, white and blue.
Okay.
A couple of more things before we wrap things up here with you, Greg Wyshinski, and
we get on with our day.
Did you see, what did I want to get to with you here today?
I know what I wanted to get to with you today.
Did you see the incident in Seattle with the two young officials on the weekend?
Yeah, it was terrible.
And I missed your update that the Kraken's gonna try to do something for them and their
family.
They're gonna at least take them to a game and they're gonna do what's described to me
as something special for the kids 13 and 14 years old look man
like just the whole thing is disgusting the whole thing is gross I'm not sure if
you read the police report about what his the alleged assailants you know
reason for for hitting the ice was but it's it's completely ridiculous yeah one
of the things that,
one of the things, and maybe I'm just like sensitive to this
because I have kids playing minor hockey, youth hockey.
One of the things that I've always believed was
in order to get better officials,
you need to create an environment
where people actually want to do this.
This is the opposite of that.
Like this is one of those moments that like sends the chill through every parent when
their kid comes up to them and says, I want to be a referee.
And as a parent, you say to yourself, I don't want my kids subjected to this.
Like not a fricking chance.
No way.
It's like how Canadians feel about when their kid comes up to them and says, I want to play
net.
I want to go like that's part of the problem that we have here in Canada is because, you
know, our parents are to blame for bad Canadian goaltending, but I digress. So I think it
should be mandatory that as part of your registration for youth hockey, that twice,
maybe three times a game, your son or daughter have to officiate a game at a lower level.
Just so they can get a sense of what it's like to do it and moreover so parents can sit in the stands while their kid officiates a game and listens to all the other parents talk about their kid.
Good idea, bad idea.
It's a great idea because I actually think that could probably help. It gives you a better understanding of what these guys do and what these officials do, what they go through. I also, again, like you have through the years
have seen the numbers drop at all levels of hockey for people that want to become officials.
A lot of it has to do with the abuse and having to deal with all this stuff for little to
no compensation. Obviously like there's a lot
of emotions that are tied up in seeing a video like that,
but that was one of them was,
oh, this is why we're struggling.
This is why official associations are,
have been sounding the alarm for multiple seasons now
on how they can get more people involved
because they're being scared away by the behavior
of psychotic parents at different levels of hockey.
You know, one of the things, Dave Jackson was on,
I love Dave, you love Dave, like he's being rules analyst.
He's fantastic.
One of the things that he brought up
was that was really interesting as well is,
and I never really consider this, but of course,
and now I'm gonna keep it in the front of my mind
when I go to my kids' games.
You know, these officials are there without a supervisor.
There's no supervisors at these games
that try to help the officials, protect the officials,
encourage the, like none of it.
It's like the end of the game,
they just go to their, just go to the ref's room
and that's it.
Like there's, and I know this would be an added cost
and parents, I'm a hockey parent,
here's added costs and goes like,
oh, we already paid too much for hockey.
But we're at a place now where we just had a 13 and a 14 year old assaulted on the ice.
And I'm thinking to myself, like, I'll pay the added expense to make sure that there's
supervision for officials.
Like, again, like, I think a lot of this can be done in concert between hockey Canada and USA hockey,
whether it's like the program that I mentioned off the top here with you about encouraging,
not encouraging, but essentially forcing kids to officiate or try, you know, try to work the
lines for a game to see, can see how difficult it is.
I think it's a moment where both hockey Canada and USA hockey can get together and say look we got a real problem here
With officials in volume and in quality. Let's try to work together to make sure that there's an environment
We're qualified people really want to do this and there's a road where they can do this and not get abused and not
Assaulted on the ice and not followed into the parking lot and not chased home by crazy parents
Is there a certain amount of self-policing that can happen
too with with with parents involved? There is. There is. You know what? There is. There is.
And I'll tell you what, you know what? It can be done by the coaches. And the one thing the coaches
can decide whether a player is on the team or off the team and can also decide when a player plays or doesn't play.
Yeah. I think that there should be there again, like you hate to like the kids are going to suffer
for the actions of parents. I know what you're saying, but that's the only way the parents are
going to understand. Coaches are going to, first of all, I like it when I see officials give a
team a penalty based on the behavior in the stands. I've seen that plenty of times. I like it when I see officials give a team a penalty based on the behavior in the stands.
I've seen that plenty of times.
I like it.
It's a great way to curb the abuse.
But I do think that parents or coaches should be able to say like, we want you to leave
or you're not allowed to come to the game.
Like to two parents.
And if you come to the game, your kid's not playing.
Harsh.
But yeah, we are.
But that's how you have to communicate.
If you have somebody who misguidedly believes
what they're doing is for the betterment of their kid
or their kid's team, and it's not,
and it's abusive and horrible, well, the only language
they're going to understand is here
is how your behavior is costing your kid and costing their team.
And it's harsh, and it sucks, and it
puts the kids in a really
terrible situation because of their parents. But at the end of the day, that's a tough love you
need sometimes with these people. That's the only thing they'll understand. Don't disagree.
On that, Jordan Bennington starts for Canada on Wednesday. I'm not sure if you saw that news.
on Wednesday, I'm not sure if you saw that news. Oh my God.
It's the best news.
It's the best news.
Next time we speak, I'll be in Boston for Four Nations
next Tuesday. Great.
I'll be into it by then.
I'll be into it by then.
Not in Montreal for that.
I'll be into it.
But it'll be fun, man.
I'll be into it.
And then, oh, and then also keep in mind,
me and Arda are doing our official post game show
for ESPN on the NHL and ESPN YouTube and Facebook Live
after USA Canada on Saturday, which if you know Arda means the culmination of a bet we
made which means I will either be garbed in something Canadian or he will be garbed in
something American. And one of us will have to, apparently part of the bet is one of us
will have to read something flattering about the other country, which is gonna be tough.
Makes me root for the USA even harder.
Canada wins, I know what I'm tuning into.
I know what I'm tuning into on Sarriere.
All right, you be good.
We'll talk in seven days when you're in Beantown.
Thanks, pal.
Awesome, thanks for listening, everybody.
There he is, the great Greg Wyshinski from ESPN and ESPN.com.
Okay, tomorrow on the program,
we have me getting excited about Canada, Sweden,
but more importantly, we've got Zach Hyman.
So I recorded something with Zach earlier today,
gonna present a little sort of snippet
of what you can see and hear tomorrow.
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promoting games because we don't have any PWHL, we don't have any NHL games or
four-nation face-offs games to promote, wanted to play you part of the interview
that I did with Zach Hyman earlier on today. The full interview on tomorrow's
edition of The Sheet. Enjoy, Zach. We're back in a moment.
Whenever I struggle, like I'd say the biggest struggle I've ever had was
when I went from junior A to college and leaving junior A I was a top prospect.
I won the junior player of the year and I went to college and I thought I was
gonna go into college and I thought I was gonna be lighted up and be an NHL
prospect right away and And I struggled.
I scored two goals in 40 games.
I had nine points my first year.
And then I had nine points my second year.
And I remember sitting in Red's office, we'll talk about Red Berenson again.
And he said, you know, Zach, you just have to keep working.
And if you're not scoring, you have to know, learn how to do something else to be effective
for our lineup.
And there he is. Zach Hyman of the Edmonton Oilers.
Maybe it should have been Zach Hyman of Team Canada.
That full interview.
How long did we go with him, Zach?
It was like 20, 25 minutes with Hyman today?
Yeah, we're, I think it's like 22 minutes, something runtime.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that one tomorrow, he's a big shot now.
President, governor, brand for Bulldogs, OHL,
and interestingly enough, never drafted in the OHL,
and now he owns an OHL team.
That family, by the way, I mentioned this in the interview,
the Hyman family have been trying to buy an OHL team,
no joke, for 20 years. There have been a few
times where they were close to purchasing certain organizations, but it
wasn't until Michael Anlauer put the Bulldogs up for sale that the Hyman
family was able to consummate the deal and finally get into the Ontario League.
They also do own an OJHL team and that is the Markham Royals
and they are not divesting of that. They're keeping it and they're running that program and running the Bulldogs program as well. So anyway we talk a little bit about that.
We talk a lot about his career, a lot of stuff about the Maple Leafs, a lot of stuff about the
Oilers and a lot of stuff about his story. So that is tomorrow on the sheet. Zach Hyman, we hope you enjoy that.
And hope you enjoy that as much as we enjoyed
doing today's show.
By the way, anything, every time I looked again
down at the chat, it was funny,
and I was getting roasted and that's always good.
Anything jump out at you today from the,
from the exchange with Wish that you wanna point out.
Or maybe even something good from the chat.
People are very much on either end
of the Four Nations discussion,
which is kind of expected, I guess.
There's people who think you're Scrooge
and people who think you're Bank On.
They're not wrong!
So like, yeah, it's kind of funny.
I just can't remember an international, I can't remember, and again, I use ironic quotation
marks when I say this about foreign nations, but an international tournament that I wasn't
excited to watch.
Again, this may all change tomorrow when the puck drops, but as of right now, eh, I'll
go start my sock drawer out.
Yeah, I don't know, like I started listening to I Set Out this morning show and Colby Armstrong comes on and he's talking about
McDavid and McKinnon and Crosby all playing on the same team and McCarr and Laz was bringing up how cool that is and stuff too
and I was like, that is cool. You know what, like and then that was when I started to bite and I was like, alright, I think I'm in.
So you're in.
I was, yeah and then now I think you're in. I was, yeah.
And then now I'm in.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
Reeled you in.
You're in.
Yeah, they got me.
They got me.
Okay.
Other note, by the way, you know, we should do lists.
Why not?
Like it's, you know, minimal prep that goes in.
We should do lists.
I was thinking about this and I want to know because yours are going to be different and
part of the reason and we can
get people from the chat much like what we're doing with people sending us these videos that
make you laugh which I think we should play throughout the week here and next week as well
but favorite goal calls because you guys are talking about announcers and sounds of your
childhood. I have a couple and some of it is because which I think you'll understand is like
what you used to say with your
friends or things that got brought up all the time so there's two that stick out to me okay one is
great save Luongo oh yeah Jim Houston oh and when you're like playing road hockey with your buddies
are in practice the attendee makes a good save and someone yells that I'll make her something for us for us
Okay, our generation was Palma tear
That was our like that
Yeah, and then the other one is the Sydney Crosby the Golden Goal that one is always like but that's probably Chris
Cousin, it's way more with Canadians. Yes, you see there
Believe in miracles is the great one from 1980. That's brilliant.
Am I a bad Canadian if I say this?
Foster Hewitt's call of Henderson in 72 is really bad.
That was an awful call of that humongous goal for Canada.
That's an awful call. You know
what's a really good call of that one? 72 Henderson? CBC radio. The television call is Foster Hewitt.
They dragged him out of retirement for that one. And it's an awful call. It's terrible.
Okay. But you know what was really good? The radio call it CBC. You know, did the radio call a very young
Bob Cole
His call of Henderson's goal in 72
Much better than Foster Hewitt like it's not even close. It's not yeah
My bad go listen to it Foster's call was awful
Am I a bad Canadian for saying that Foster's call was awful? I'll listen. It doesn't like stick out to me so I'm not, I can't definitively say whether I do work out or not.
Do you believe in miracles though is the best one for me?
Yeah.
Even as a Canadian I just say it and I'm just like, aha, tingles. Like that's perfect.
Okay, on that we're out. Thanks everyone in the chat as always.
Thanks to Greg Wysyshinski from ESPN
Thanks to Zach Phillips
who does a lot of legwork on this show and does a lot of things and puts together a lot of things on this program and
I just like drive through stop signs and
We end up the day going like oh we didn't do this we didn't do this we didn't do this and I go like
I'm sorry Zach bad host. You should have known that by now. Thanks. I had no sheet today for
bad host you should have known that by now thanks I had no sheet today for you like I every day I do but today it was like what am I putting on this sheet
you like got it you're like the foster Hugh at 72 on the Henderson call you're
terrible today all right foster all right thanks for watching on YouTube
thanks for listening on your preferred podcast platform,
or maybe both. Glad to have you aboard here on the program.
It's fun, right? Beats working for a living.
We'll talk to you tomorrow on the Sheet.
Three o'clock Eastern, don't forget, morning cup of hockey.
Tomorrow, nine o'clock Eastern.
I think daily face-off live is at noon tomorrow.
Should probably check on that. I know yesterday they did seven, today they did noon. Live from Montreal and then this little monkey act
that me and Zach do and that guy over my left shoulder. The champ. Let's get out of
the way. Star of the show right there. There he is.
Say good night.
Turn your mic around. Say goodnight
Signing off to the ship I can't get out my head, lost all ambitions day to day Guess you can call it a rut
I went to the dark man, he tried to give me a little medicine
I'm like, nah man, that's fine
I'm not against those methods, but I knew
It's me, myself and Alice gonna be fixing my mind Do you wanna break it?
I turned on the music
Do you wanna break it?
I turned on the music
It's turned up, up, out, and then just sometimes losing
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