The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Live From D.C. and What Chaos Joins ft. Spencer Carbery, DJ Bean, and Pete Blackburn

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Jeff Marek is live from the Monumental Sports Network studios in Washington, D.C. to kick off the week with a loaded episode of The Sheet. Jeff dives into the Tom Wilson hit that’s sparking debate across the NHL, Connor Bedard’s early-season surge and development, the Edmonton Oilers’ early struggles, and the Detroit Red Wings’ five-game winning streak that has them looking like a serious contender.At 1:15 ET, Washington Capitals head coach Spencer Carbery joins Jeff in person to discuss his third season behind the bench, what it was like coaching Alex Ovechkin as he broke Wayne Gretzky’s all-time goals record, the team’s mindset heading into another tough Metropolitan Division race, and how the Capitals are exceeding expectations early on.Then at 1:35 ET, Pete Blackburn and DJ Bean from What Chaos stop by the studio to make a major announcement and go around the league — reacting to breakout performances, big surprises, and the biggest headlines shaping the NHL right now.#TheSheet #JeffMarek #NHL #Hockey #WashingtonCapitals #AlexOvechkin #SpencerCarbery #TomWilson #ConnorBedard #DetroitRedWings #EdmontonOilers #PeteBlackburn #DJBean #WhatChaos #DailyFaceoff #MonumentalSportsNetworkSHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Shark Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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With hundreds of options for ages 0 to 12, it's the perfect gift they'll go back to again and again. Check it out at yotoplay.com. T-O-P-L-A-Y.com. Broadcasting live from the MedStar Capitals Ice Plect in Arlington, America along with you for the sheet for this Monday, October the 20th. And, Zach, I'm a big shot now, eh? Me and Bruce Boudreau, new podcasts coming up. Cut down with Alexander of Vegetable today.

Spencer Carberry is going to stop by here in a couple of moments. It's hitting home runs to kick off the week, bud, but, but it's hitting home runs. Yeah. You're out of Capitals games. You're out in Washington. You've got a nice setup behind you. These guys are rolling out the red carpet. I heard they've got a whole new set in front of you right now just for you, too.

Like a whole brand new set up mics and cameras and everything. Yeah. It's like literally it's podcast in a suitcase. You can take this. I can't explain any of any of this. But it looks fantastic. I'm scared to touch any of it because you know me. I'll touch one thing and mess up the entire show. I'm just going to hands off on this one here. But Huey, great job. And to everyone here, it's at Monumental. Thanks so much for the accommodations and for setting everything up. And we do have a big announcement coming up at the bottom of the hour. But before that,

Monumental, putting out the announcement that Gabby and I, Bruce Boudre and I will be doing a weekly video podcast. for Monumental and available wherever you get your podcast. And if you are wondering, it has no effect. Like, the sheet is still rocking five days a week. We're not half-mileers like that morning show. We don't do four. We do five here on the program. I hope Johnny and Kobe are listening right now.

Yeah, John Forsland got it. John Forsland got on this morning. You know, listen to that one. I'm going to the airport after this program today. He's suddenly like red-hot Seattle crack. and, by the way, to see the news about Berkeley Caton, Berkeley Caton, making his NHL debut for the Seattle Cracken against the Philadelphia Flyers. So that's an exciting story there.

We have a lot to get to on the program today, and a special guest will be here in about 10 minutes time. So we'll remind you once again and always do to kick off the program. The blueprint is powered by Fanduel. Download the app today and play your game. Thanks for our friends and partners at Fanduel. Coming up on the show today, you will hear from and see if you're watching on YouTube. Spencer Carberry, the head coach of the Washington Capitals defending Jack Adams' trophy winner. The What Chaos Crew will stop by at the bottom of the hour.

We will talk plenty about Tom Wilson and the hit yesterday on Philippeel. We'll talk about the Washington Capitals with Spencer Carberry coming up in a couple of seconds. An announcement at the bottom of the hour, and I don't know if you have a thought on this one yourself. What's going on with the offense and the Edmonton Oilers? This was supposed to be the high-flying oilers. We're never going to have an NHL that's like the 80s again with Edmonton where when you scored on the Edmonton Oilers in the 80s, they got personally offended that you would have the nerve to score on them.

Like that's always how I felt about that Oilers squad. You know, it's like a team would go up two pucks on Edmonton and they would be offended. Paul Coffey, Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Glenn Anderson, Yari Curry, murderers, they would be like, not angry, but like, they would be nothing but disdain. and then they put up a five spot and the game would be over. But right now, it's pop gun offense for the two-time Stanley Cup finalists here.

You know, one of the things we tend to forget is it's two teams that go to the final. You know, we always think, oh, the Florida Panthers have played so much hockey. Last time I checked, they played against the Edminton owners for two years. So a little bit of a hangover to kick off the next season probably shouldn't come as any surprise to anybody. but one thing I was having a conversation with someone about this over the past couple of days is we're all sort of scrambling and trying to figure out, you know, why this offense has fizzled out. You know, one person said something interesting to me to someone from another team who said,

you know, and you've heard me talk about this before, and he's wondering if the Edmonton Oilers defensemen take too many shots. And they have, because there's three Oilers defensemen, in the top 15 in the NHL in the shots per 60 stats. One of them is Evan Bouchard, but you expect it. I know, listen, by the way, on Evan Bouchard, we've seen this happen to players before, where they feel the weight of the massive contract

and the weight of expectation. I'm not going to throw a log on the fire of Evan Bouchard. This guy's too good and he's going to work himself out of it. But nonetheless, so he's in that top 15. there are no nurses in that top 15 and in a weird one so is Matthias Ekholm and I say to myself

should Matias Ekholm be shooting as much as Matias Ekholm is I don't have an answer for it I'm grabbing its straws here trying to figure out where it's gone I'm sure Chris Knoblox the same way I don't know if you have a thought on it like what's happened to the Edmonton

well it's to kick off this season but if you do I'm sure everybody in Edmonton would like to hear it Zach yeah i i mean this one i actually think people in emminton would like to hear and it's everybody take a breath like we are five six games into the season for most of these teams you watch and i'm experiencing it here in toronto with what happened on saturday night now granted i understand a lot of the reaction and i understand leaves fans acting the way that they are or people outside of edmonton pointing fingers and saying look ha ha we told you or look at the issues with

this guy or that guy, everybody take a second here. You know, and it's not to take a shot at the Red Wings or the Cracken, but are they the greatest teams to ever touch the ice? I'm going to go out on a limb, Jeff, and I'm going to say no, but they're on fire right now, and they've started this season hot. Are the Edmonton Oilers going to stink like? Stink is maybe a strong word, but are they going to play like this all the way through? Again, my answer is no.

And, you know, it's a cop out in a way to say that, but I think water's going to find its level here. whether it's Stu Skinner kind of picking things back up to being at least a regular season guy that we've seen him be or and just at least at an average or Evan Bouchard producing offensively and that team scoring at the rate that we've seen it's going to figure itself out maybe not as good as ever but again like I just can't press panic buttons six seven games into the season for some of these teams the barometer for me which again like I'm learning quickly pick up some of these media cliches American Thanksgiving giving, Jeff. We'll figure it out by then. But let's give it some time. Yeah, that does, and always kind of has served as an unofficial cut line for the NHL playoffs. And we'll get there in a second. You know, one of the hot button issues, I'm curious to see and hear Spencer Carberry's thoughts on it.

But the Tom Wilson hit on Philippeel yesterday, Vancouver Connects are not, Vancouver Connects fans are not going to want to hear it. but this was a clean hit, and this was the right call. I like how the officials handled it by making the call, reviewing the hit, and then allowing Tom Wilson to escape. First of all, you feel bad for the player. We all know about the concussion history for Philippeal. Not that Tom Wilson or anyone else on the ice needs to take that into account before delivering a hit like that.

Like, I've always been of the mind that even, you know, there's a concussion history with filipedal. If you're dressing, everyone on the other team has, like if you're putting a player in the lineup, you have to assume health, right? You can't assume that a player is injured and you can't look at a player's past and pull up. If the coach is putting that player on the ice,

you assume health. But the other part of this one, too, is, I mean, you really have to slice a fine hair to say that this one was late, right? this one was like it was point five point five of a second uh i think the the normal sort of barometer is point eight um look tom wilson is a big strong player who can hurt you last time i check you are still allowed to hit like that in the n hl the problem is as much as teams want that in their lineup it's really hard to find and when you do have it you hold on to it like it's

sacred, right? How many teams have called for Tom Wilson? Tons. Tons of teams have had. You know, I can, you know, Ryan Reeves with the great, you know the Ryan Reeves line when he was, when he was a free agent? I was being interviewed by a number of teams and he talked to New York. You know the line? No, what was that? So in his, in his discussions with New York, I think the, I don't know if it was an opening line, but at some part of the conversation, Ryan Reeves said to the New York Rangers, you have a Tom Wilson problem, and I am the solution to your Tom Wilson problem in one of the great lines from Ryan Reeves, who's got a career of delivering great lines. You have a Tom Wilson problem. Last night, the Vancouver Canucks had a Tom Wilson problem

with that hit on Heidel. He has been placed, by the way, on IR along with Jonathan Leckeramackie, who got tangled up with Matt Roy at the blue line. That one didn't look good. First of all, good on him for finishing his shift and getting the puck out because when he went down and he came and he came back up right away you're thinking okay is it shoulder is it collarbone is it a combination of both it didn't look good but he finished the playing and got the puck out of the zone nonetheless those two players are on i are right now for the vancouver conox you have a thought on the uh the tom wilson incident if we can even call it an incident from last night uh pretty much on the same page as you i would be a little bit more lenient to

calling it interference because i would say yeah it's like pretty much on the border of being um late i think the other thing we look at the point eight seconds the other one what is it's like two strides after the puck is gone i think that that was essentially met by heidel but to say it's anything beyond that i strongly disagree with it this is not a fine a suspension a five minute nothing i think no interference is where it's at i don't think like to give wilson the credit on this where this is where it's hard in real time it's a it's a fast-paced game like that's the inherent nature of hockey it's not predatory he's coming across to finish his hit could you say it was late i personally wouldn't disagree with somebody who says it is you sitting here telling me right

now you don't think it was i'm not really going to sit here and argue with you like it's just borderline and if a refs watching that in real time i got no issue with them calling it what they did and reviewing it. I think that's the right way. The only thing I wanted to point out here, there was a discussion this morning on Morning Cup of hockey between the guys. It was a, I don't know if you were able to, if you're going to be able to catch up on this one. It's a somewhat heated one. Surprise, surprise. You're going to listen on the airport. They were arguing the hit. I think that Laz made a good point. There is a very clean, there's a very big distinction between dirty and

a penalty. I think that that one could have been called a penalty. I think there is zero percent of that hit that is dirty. I think that they can be, they don't have to be the same. It's not a dirty hit, but it could have been a penalty. And I think that that's fair to say, but there was a long argument on that one this morning. Dirty versus penalty and why it wasn't called. I thought it was funny. You know, it's not talked about a lot around hits like that, just how hard they are to make. And because your margin for error is so slim. Like, does Wilson catch him in the head? No.

But, again, bodies moving in concert with one another, a game moving really fast. If Wilson doesn't hit him the way that he did, it could have been even more disastrous for Philippeal. Like, if anything, and man, or Vancouver County's fans not going to want to hear this one. If anything, Tom Wilson actually, once you're committed to the hit,

Tom Wilson Tom Wilson kind of took care of Hegel in some ways. There was nothing, because once upon a time, you know, there was a younger Tom Wilson that just would have blown him up. But he executed like a near perfect hit on Heidel last night

or yesterday afternoon. I don't know. I hope we all hope that he's okay. We don't know if it's a concussion. We all know the concussion history. He's on IR now. you know i was talking having a conversation with someone this morning who said if it is a concussion do you start to have the conversation about how long can you keep doing this like at what point because you know what it's like i mean you played like it's you're peeling the onion at and are

we at that point now for philippeal as awful as that sounds you hope he's okay you hope it's not a concussion but if it is is it time to have the big conversation i don't know yeah i hope not really talented player and we saw him start the season pretty strong here of Vancouver looked like he had a pretty good preseason there but there becomes a point you've seen it with not just head to head injuries and it happens a lot at football is one of the sports you see a lot of guys they'll play and they'll just go out at the top of their game like they are they are peaked but they're like if I want to have a normal life this is where I draw the line and I mean part it's just like you you want that best for the health but part of me

just hopes it's not for that point for Heidel because he is a very talented player and seems to have found a little bit of something there in Vancouver you know one of the things that I um and and again you see it every time that there's a there's a hit like this the conversation about how there's there's no respect in the game anymore I think it's more respect in hockey than there's ever been like there was a time in the the NHL in my lifetime where I'll be blunt, half the league should have been incarcerated. When you looked at what, when you looked at what happened in the league, half the league should have been in jail, Zach.

Like right now there is more respect. I think a lot of it comes to, you know, players in the players association and working out together in all pals and all these types of things. But I find that there's more respect now in the game than there has ever been. And again, as much as Canucks fans might not want to hear it, was it a devastating hit? Yeah. But I would also make the argument,

it's one of the hardest things to do and that was kind of respectful to if you could be committed to making that hit the way that Wilson was it could have been a disaster but Wilson it sounds tasteless

if you say took care of Heidel but really in some ways it could have been so much worse that was like if you committed to that hit that was as near perfect as you're going to get no I 100% understand what you're saying

to follow through everything just how we approached it it was that's the best way that he could have gone about that hit and on obviously crazy crazy considering where we're at with the reaction on this one and the fact that there's people who want him in jail for what he did but i do agree you in terms of it you know what it's for some it's a name bar hit right for some it's just it's just a name bar name bar hit but nonetheless um all right welcome in our first guest he is the uh defending and reigning Jack Adams Trophy winner. He is one of the top coaches in the NHL. He's a head coach of the Washington Capitals.

He is Spencer Carberry, who's going to snuggle up to the mic right there, and he joins me now. Spencer, good to see you again. You're well? Very good, thank you. Three guesses what we're talking about. Does it rhyme with or having number 43 involved with it? It might.

It might have been something that happened in the neutral zone that's got a certain market in Western Canada pretty hot. I was making the point before he came on about how I see more respect in the game now than ever before, where once upon a time this was like the NHL and hockey in general was the Wild Wild West. It's not that way anymore. But every now and then, we get a reminder that this is a tough game played by really strong men on skates. And there is still an element of danger. You never want to see a player go off the way that Heidel did yesterday.

But I'm curious, and there's a lot to get into from yesterday's game too. How did you see it? Point number one is exactly what you said is you never want to see a player being helped off. Yeah. And that situation. So that goes without saying whether it's an opposing coach, opposing player, Tom Wilson, like these guys are very, very competitive and out there in a physical sport. But no one, and I think more so than ever the players union and them looking after one another, no one wants to see someone get hurt. the hit to me is is clean and something you said um i remember talking to willie about

willie said this is changing willie a lot of times in games believe it or not uh and i've heard it multiple times we'll tell guys when he's coming i've heard that about him yeah yeah like he'll because of what he's gone through in his past and now like this guy in terms of a man that is just brute force strength built differently, Tom Wilson, that is, when you see him with his shirt off, you're just like, whoa, this is a massive, massive human. So anything that he hits, it, there's a lot of force there. Him evolving as a player and looking out for opposing players will tell them,

heads up, heads up, when he's coming at times during the year. And so to me, that was, it was a clean check, totally unfortunate. he'll just sort of isn't looking out of that side and he's sort of zoned in on just his right side of the ice where you yeah it's just unfortunate what do you tell your because hitting hitting is hitting is changed right like you guys can't chase it chase it anymore right yeah what do you tell your players about playing physical and somewhere along the way too we have this discussion somewhere down the road body checking has turned into hitting i don't know when it happened but like the idea that

that, you know, the idea is, you know, physical contact that, that produces a change of possession. That's gone now. It's just about crashing bodies. How do you talk to your team about hitting? So we make our players aware in the pre-scout of guys that are, I'll give you an example, like when we're going up against a team where there's a physical player on the other team that, Keeper Sherwood.

Yep. As led the league and hits multiple years. We make our players aware of Kiefer Sherwood. Make sure you're aware he's going to finish his checks on the four check. D, shoulder checks, communication, help each other out. I'll give me an example. So we played the New York Rangers two years ago in the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs. Matt Rempie is on the New York Rangers.

He was barreling down on a four check. Trevor Van Riemstike was going back on a puck. And he didn't look shoulder check out of his right side. He goes back on a puck and he takes a heavy, heavy hit from Matt Repie. Missed the rest, like was heard on the play. And I remember talking to Riemer about it. after and he was he was like upset with himself because he's like i don't know why i didn't shoulder check i knew rempe was on the ice i should have double shoulder checked i just didn't

look and he was and so those are i'm not given um i'm not trying to bring light of of a hard hit and trevor man reams like getting injured it's just there's physical players in the league that you just need to be aware of and you need to communicate it us as coaches need to lay it out and make sure our players are aware of those types of players and when they'll be on the ice. You know, it's such a, you know, I've been making this point for a while here on the show and elsewhere that in a league now where everybody can skate, everybody can shoot, everyone can play, make, coaches, managers, everybody is saying, what else can you give me? Yeah.

Like that, like, do you find that it's as much as hockey is, you know, progressing a certain way as it relates to skill, it's kind of going backwards, and we're almost in this, like, loop of going forwards and a little bit backwards at the same time? And you know what I think a lot of that has to do with is our league no different than a lot of different leagues is a copycat league. So when a team that's very physically... Panthers. Go ahead, say Panthers.

When a physically imposing team or teams, plural, have a lot of success, what do GMs do? What do do do? They go, I want to look like that. Yep. And they try to replicate that roster and they try to play the same way. So I think a lot of that is based on who's successful and trying to replicate that. Are you guilty of that? A little bit, yeah, no doubt.

And part of that, I mean, I genuinely to my core, I feel like that, you know, the physicality part of the game is what I believe in. I believe that that in the most difficult time of the year against the best teams in the league, that when everybody is skilled and that and the structure and the coaching and the players sort of match, that physicality can put you over the top. So I'm a believer in that. And so a lot of the things that the Florida Panthers of the world do, I'm a strong believer in too. And so building your roster that way and playing a similar style is something I believe in. When you look at your team, I'm always curious about coaches and their non-negotiables, right? Like what do you have for the Washington Capitals in practice, in game?

What is a non-negotiable for Spencer Carberry? There's a decent amount of them, but I would say the one maybe thing from an offensive forward standpoint is all of our players, from Dylan Strom to Alex Ovechkin, to Connor McMichael, you name it, has to be willing to go to the hard area of the ice, and that is right on top of the crease, and has to be willing to go there. You cannot be, I'm the perimeter guy for this shift or I don't go there because I'm 170 pounds. And so we talk about that, work on it. I always use, I love to use Connor McMichael as an example because he's not a very physically imposing player. He's not a heavy player. He's a light player. But his willingness to go there scored him 14 goals last year in the National Hockey League right at the net front.

And he's smart, but he's also willing to go there. and willing to, when it's his turn or when it's off the rush or in the offensive zone, he goes the inside. That is one that I, you know, pay quite attention to and I'm stressing that quite a bit. Fall is here and everybody's getting back from vacation, headed back to school. And you know what that means?

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museums that showcase the future, not just the past. Choose from 14 flights per week between Canada and Dubai. Book on emirates.ca today. One of my favorite players to talk about, and I almost said low-key, but I'm not really low-key about this one. I'm just trying to popularize support for a Selky trophy for one of your players. And that's Alexi Protis. And even yesterday's game, I think it was the first period, high ice and the offensive zone.

He makes two great defensive stick plays. He shrugged off of VanderCain to keep the puck hot in the offensive zone. I mean, he's got, I don't know, how many defensive touches every game. He can score. We saw that last year. He can move his feet. I know we don't give Selky trophies to wingers anymore in the NHL. But when you look at ProDist, do you see a Selky candidate?

I do. I do because of all the things you just mentioned. Now, I will say this, and Pro would agree with me. because yesterday was probably one of his not so good games, but he does every single game does things like you just described. His skating ability with his size, with his stick. You mentioned too, I love that you said that because that his stick is so good at not just because of his size and his length and his reach because of his brain.

He knows what good players are trying to do so he can read where the next play is. So you mentioned or referenced two plays that he isn't in the lane, but he gets there because he knows what's coming. So those little subtle plays, penalty kill. And the funny thing about him playing center, he actually grew up a centerman. And I've asked him multiple times, pro, do you ever want to go back to playing center? He goes, you know, he goes, I've had some successes wing.

I think it would be hard to go back. He's like, I'm happy being a winger. But to win a sulky trophy, I said, hey, you want to win a sulky kid. You got to be a center. That's the deal. And now he's playing power play as well. So now he's increased his minutes a little bit. Now he's playing in every situation for us.

Has anything changed this year? You know, he's always saying, you know, if you're not hungry, you won't eat. Alexander Ovetchen is still chasing 900, but he's like the greatest goal square of all time.

Yeah. He hit it. Is there anything different about him this year that you can sense? Or is it the same OV for you? It's the same OV. I think there's, he's the same. I think there's a different feeling around our team and around the chase because what we went through last year was so, it was just every day.

It was every day. It was as he inches closer, especially down the last two months of the season. It was just every single day. So that has sort of mellowed. But his approach day to day. has been very much the same. He still has that enthusiasm and energy every time he comes into the rink.

When he's sitting in meetings, when he's in the locker room, when he's on the bench, he's just that hasn't changed one iota. Even though he hasn't gotten off to the start he got off to last year, the thing that's been encouraging for me is he's still getting in good spots.

He's still getting pox in scoring areas. They're not going in for him right now. missing camp i think you know heard him a little bit of not being able to get as many game touches as he would have liked um but he'll get there he's getting into good spots he's getting opportunities they'll they'll start to go in for uh you know who i have a real soft spot in my heart for video coach because you should nobody like when they get a call quote unquote wrong on a review i can only imagine what's going how did you do you have our uh coaches were miced or bugged i'm just like oh man i feel and i'm and you called the video review

on the on the on the Myers goal um yesterday and i'm just saying to myself like when when the when the ruling came out i was like oh i know especially when we get scored on the penalty kill that uh yeah yeah that was a tough one because i i felt like in the moment we were struggling in the first period and so there's like multiple things that go into that there's we have some set calls that are even when it's a tough call they'll tell me that we have a few commands that they'll give me that they're not 100% sure but they err on the side of challenge or don't challenge okay and then it's on me to decide you know where we're at the game the score the flow um and yesterday I just felt like in the moment at two nothing with us really struggling with our guys trying to

grasp to something and you know pretty like can i can i help will this spark our group by getting this goal off the board and and staying at one nothing um it didn't go our way we need to get a penalty kill there and we didn't so we go down three nothing still fought our way back in the game liked our second and third but it turns out being a big moment in the game and um yeah those are not easy that the challenges are tough and i never put it on our video coaches like they I am never upset if they get it wrong or give me, you know, say, challenge it and we're wrong because I trust them. They do so much research and homework on what the rule is.

They watch all the reviews. They do a study in the summer. And so if we're wrong, I know it's coming from a place of being very, very educated with our decision-making process. And I'm not trying to get you a hot water with the officials here. I do want to ask one thing. You know, there's a sort of sing-song. rule that officials always, whenever I bring up goalie interference, they always remind me,

if you're in the blue, that's on you. Yeah. If you're in the blue, that's on you. If you're in the white, that's all right. I find that as much as, and media were guilty of it as well, too, as much as people look at goalie interferes and say, I don't even know what goalie interference is anymore. I find it to be one of the most consistently correct. calls that we have in the game right now. It's never going to be 100%. Yeah. But how do you see

goalie interference calls? Do you have a real handle on it? Um, I do with what you're describing where the gray gets is, um, for me is the force at which someone was pushed or that's where it gets, um, very dicey. So I'll give you an example. And this is the, the blue. The blue, blue in the paint is a great, great point that you make. So the other night, there was a goal scored by Florida. Jake Allen was in the crease. They, Paul Maurice challenges, they call it no goal in the ice. Paul Maurice challenges, they keep it at no goal.

And you watch that replay. And his butt is in that crease. And Jake Allen does a really good job. He comes out. That's his space. No goal. So by the letter of the law, I agree. I'm like, that's now here's where it gets a little bit weird.

our goalies play deeper than Jake Allen. So players can go right inside of there and Logan and Chuckian, this is what we've talked as a staff about him with our goalie coach is like, do we tell Logan and Chuck to play a different style? Yes. Can I pause? The master of what you're talking about, nobody did it better than Carrie Price. Of like going out.

Getting the position to get the call. Yeah. He was the final. So what I get pushed back. I don't try to, I think this is a goalie coach in their decision. When a head coach that has limited knowledge on the goalie position starts to tell them what to do in a game, I'm like, I'm walking a slippery slope. But what I say is exactly that. Like get out there, but what our department sort of challenges back is do you want our goalies to change their style that's gotten to them to where they are?

And I'm like, no, but, you know, can we find, well, what if they go out and challenge? and then it ends up being a backdoor pass and they get so it's but i i look at our guys and there's someone in the crease like we've been scored on a couple times this year with a guy in the crease where our goalie just doesn't go out and make contact he just plays back in the crease and they're like that's a good goal a guy was in the crease but he had no impact on the goal he playing his position that's um and then just the force thing that's the only time where it gets like did he push how hard was his stick pushing did the defenseman shove them in that's a very arbitrary you can't measure that by film well the one thing that we all have to understand is and you know i my last physics class was was great 11 but watching hockey i'm i'm learning now that gravity is heavier when you put blue paint on ice i don't know what it is but these big strong hockey players when their skate touches blue ice i i don't the gravity distress bags them down. And it's slippery in there. Do you have an explanation for this phenomenon?

It gets very slippery there too. People are falling, diving. Like, I don't know how that happens. I don't know how that happened. Big Strong hide. They stand up and fight checks. Put some blue paint on the ice. I want to ask you about the Jack Adams real quick. I only got a couple of minutes left here with you. Why do you think you? Oh, I still pinch myself every day. I don't know the answer to that I do not know um I mean what happened was was like remarkable like you must take some pride in that I know you don't want to yeah I was like it yourself but I it looked like it early and you wrote it all the way and it was this one was a yeah I I honestly like still to this day I will say it to the day I die um that was a special team and everything just seemed to click for our group last

year and whether it was goaltending or the new additions or pierre luke dubois or jacobo or ovi's chase like everything it just felt like one of those years so i know um it's it's a reflection on our staff and our organization but to win that award i just felt like our whole you go top everybody had it from our general manager to um all of our players just had really really successful years. So I, you know, earn an award as a product of that. I always think of whether it's awards and championships and these types of things. Rick Rubin, the legendary music producer would always say, no one achieves anything on the own. Everything is a collaboration. 100%. You might be the one there with your name on it. Yeah. But like it's a collaborate,

at least sitting on the shoulders of those that came before. I could not agree more. I could not agree more with that. I will be forever grateful. And I let them know frequently this summer. how grateful I was for every single person inside of our organization, because that's the reason that my name's on that trophy. Okay. Last one for you. How good is this team or how good can this team be? Metropolitan's a more competitive division.

Yeah. And don't look now, but Carolina looks like they're playing hockey in January. They have hit us stride early. Yeah. New York, I thought, looked really good. in the game we played against them. Phillies playing well. Pittsburgh's playing well.

Yeah, I honestly don't see it any. I know like it's the media's job to break down divisions who looks strong, who looks weak. Like I genuinely believe that this league every single night, it is hard to win in the national league. Like the parody has never in my opinion been at a higher level than it is now. And so whoever it is in your division, I would have. conference whether you're going to a non-playoff team like it is it is a difficult difficult night every night home road to get two points and so the the original like of us where are we i i

believe we have an opportunity and we have a team that can take that next step to become a true stanley cup contender i i do believe that um we need to get a little bit better like i think last year we took a really big step a lot of things went our way we shot at a high percentage we got comeback wins led the league 23 of them can you replicate that so i i know all the you know outside noise um losing in the second round you know carolina handled us pretty handedly so to me we need to take another step and if we do that we can get into that conversation of being a quote unquote true Stanley Cup contender, a team that can fight for it. Okay, last one I lied.

Who's the player we're all sleeping on in the media, where you look like, why aren't they talking more about that guy? Oh, and our team. Yep. I'm going to go to someone that you all know, but even at his age and where he's at in his career, I think he just flies under the radar and goes very, very underrated. and I was a little bit disappointed that he wasn't invited to the Team USA, John Carlson. John Carlson, just a guy that has done it for so long.

And now his role has evolved a little bit where he was known for so many years as the power play quarterback of the lethal Washington Capitals power play with Baxter Ovi, Osi, and Kuznetsoff. and now he's like this two-way can play against other teams' top lines at his age and first unit penalty kill for us. So he does a lot of things now that might not show up on the box score, but we appreciate as a team and see them every day. And we appreciate you for stopping by. Spencer, thanks so much. Continued success.

Anytime, thank you. Good luck on the challenges. Appreciate it. All right, there he is. Spencer Carberry, is the head coach of the Washington Capitals, one of the top teams again in the National Hockey League, just coming off for a game winning streak after dropping one yesterday, though, to the Vancouver Canucks here in Washington.

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who now join the mix here at Daily Faceoff slash TNN. Join me now. Gentlemen, who wants the honors of explaining the reasoning behind coming aboard? Ooh, I mean, it could be Pete, it could be Jay, it could be any of us. Like, we've just been mutual fans and friends forever. And honestly, you're a big part of it, too. Like, all of our favorite shows are on the nation network. So when we could go there, we're like, we have to.

It's the best. Yeah, it makes sense for us from like a, like we love, love the guys there, love the content. We believe in the vision. Like this, I feel like the nation and daily face off, like when you think about new media and where it's kind of heading and that's where we want to be, we love you guys, love you, love Jay, love everybody, Tyler, all those guys. So very, very excited.

It's, um, listen, we're thrilled to have you. I think I speak on behalf of, of everybody here when, uh, the sort of whispers started that this was, that this act, that this actually had a shot of happening. I think everyone got, got pretty pumped up about it. So Bean, here's my question. When do you move to Edmonton? Oh, I mean, we, Sean and Pete saw me. We were, uh, in Edmonton last year and my lovely girlfriend was with me.

and I was like, look at these houses. We could have a house here. Come on. And that's not to blame, not to make her the reason that I don't live in Edmonton right now. Honestly, this one's probably the reason why I don't live in Evanton right now

because we need to do the show from the same place. And I think Western Canada, I think people from Vancouver and Calgary would find their way over there and get their hands on Pied, and it would not be a good scene for him, particularly Vancouver.

You know what this is, this is going to, when a company makes moves like this it gives everybody a lift and it forces everybody to to take their game up to and speaking personally for me um i have someone else here now swimming in these waters and i need to up my tattoo game yeah you do and you've said uh like last season i think that you were thinking about getting the zamboni dog well we have a brand new zamboni dog logo it's actually i can't say that i can't say hockey truck hockey it is a uh it is a z it is a hockey truck dog that we are it's a brand new version so you can get that one it's good thing you didn't get the other one

the ogy you can get this one yeah that is decidedly not the z word hockey truck that is a totally different hockey truck it's please company stay away from us it's an ice resurfiser that's what it is it just rolls off the tongue i'm not sure if the other company that starts with an oh um maybe you want to just use that name instead of the the the z as we call it up here or or Z. State side. Okay, a couple of hockey issues here with you, with you gentlemen. And Bean, we just talked about the Edmonton Oilers. Where has the offense gone with Edmonton? Is this just a blip on the radar? Too many games last year, Stanley Cup hangover, etc.

Do you have an explanation for where or where has the offense gone? Well, it is October. And as our friends in Edmonton know, and our friends in L.A. are realizing now they have a roster full of Edmonton Oilers, you lose games in October. It's just what happens. As for where the offense has gone, I was joking before we jumped on with you guys. Heart Race right now,

Jack Eichel, number one, Jake Wallman, number two. They missed that guy so badly. He just got activated off injured reserve, so maybe that'll go a long way and getting back to what they looked like. But I don't know, like dry saddles had some moments.

I know that he's scored goals, but he's had some moments where you're like, oh, damn, he buries that last year. Obviously, at the end of the Detroit game on Sunday, where he flubs a breakaway, which you never see happening. Connor McDavid isn't scoring goals. Andrew Mangapani's looked really good, but a fun thing with the offense for the Oilers

is every time someone scores for them, it happened with Noah Phelp and it happened with Curtis Lazar. Every time someone scores, I'm going to steal the line from our friend Aaron Bordado with Oilers Nation. He gets the Jeff Skinner treatment and gets taken out of the lineup because Chris Knoblock is just taking out, like his, wherever they're getting offense,

okay, cool, you're out now. But in all seriousness, I think that it's, Some Edmonton Oilers' October hockey, which is usually pretty uneventful. God, they've been boring. And part of it is I think that Jake Wallman and his breakouts will be very, very welcome for this group. And he's on his way back, which is good news for Oilers fans. Pete, I want to ask you about Fool's Gold. What do you see right now?

That's a mirage. Maybe it's the Detroit Red Wings on top of their division. maybe it's Seattle undefeated in regulation, I don't know, pick your poison here. What are you seeing around the NHL as foolsfold? I feel like there's a lot of it. There's a lot of early season returns that you're like, this probably isn't super sustainable. But I mean, like Seattle, I don't truly, truly believe in as a team that can like punch heavy

the entire year. But I mean, another one too, I know they've lost four straight games, but like my Boston Bruins, it got off to a pretty good start. this season. And like I like what I've seen to a certain extent. But like the big thing is is that this is watchable hockey and it's enjoyable entertaining hockey that we are now getting for Marco Sturms, Boston Bruins. And I feel like at the very least the system and the culture is being like bought into and these guys are playing hard and playing with pride. They're probably going to lose a lot more games. But I'm at least happy with what I've seen. Although I like pretty

quickly adjusted my ceiling for the Bruins. And I was like, oh, this team might win the division with like a plus 10 goal differential. I don't think that's going to happen anymore, but like I still am, I'm buying into Marco Sturm's Boston Bruins. Not the best team wearing those colors, though, speaking of fools gold teams. He's not about the Pittsburgh Penguins. Yeah. So Pete is on board penguins, that is sustainable. He's not calling that fool's gold. The penguins are being carried by one player and his name is Justin Bresjo. Wrong. They're being carried by they're playing the sharks in the kings fair yeah the um you know they're just dying for a win in in san jose but pete i think you mentioned something like salient to all of this it's all a matter of expectations right all of all of not

just hockey but like all of life is managing expectations you've heard the cliche one man's ceiling is another man's floor um and that's why i look at the chicago black hawks and say to myself you know we're we're not in the we're not in the caring about wins business yet it feels like it's coming soon. It's more just, are the kids getting better? Like, are you guys on the same page about Chicago with me here that there's only one to us? Don't worry about the wins. Are the kids getting better? Yeah, we said ahead of the season, like, all that really mattered with the Blackhawks was progress. If you saw progress with the young kids and saw that like the vibes shifted a little bit more towards the clarity coming with the future, then that's a successful season for the

Blackhawks, right? Because last year, we constantly compared the Blackhawks and the sharks where it was like both teams were bad and they knew that they were going to be bad and they were young but san Jose they were having fun there and they were losing a bunch of games in chicago they were losing a ton of games and nobody seemed happy about it everybody seemed like they were having a bad time you constantly got the shots of conor bad on the bench looking sad like the black hawks now it feels like the vibes are better than the sharks and maybe that's because they're winning some games but i also think that's just because they have more more vision and clarity as to where they're headed.

And it's not just Bedard. It's a lot of young guys there that look good. Yeah, they're supposed to be farther along than the sharks are supposed to be right now. But as you said, like go back to last year how it seemed. It seemed horrible in Chicago. And it seemed amazing in San Jose with they're not winning anything and having slumber parties and getting to hang out with Cody C.C. That seemed amazing.

But we cautioned last year. We were like, and we talked about on the show today. Like when they traded Fabian Zetterland, who was 25 years old, we were like, be careful with how long you want to be that young and that bad, because eventually you're going to get used to losing and things aren't going to be fun there. And I don't know, like right now it's crazy. I look at what the Blackhawks are doing and I look at what the Sharks are doing. And I'm like, damn, wouldn't you rather be the Blackhawks right now?

Because there might not be as many like tippity top like one, two, three overall pick type players there. but they're a little further along and they've at least gotten to a point where they're like, we must improve. Game to game, night to night, season to season. And the sharks still, they're going to be a lot of fun at some point,

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how difficult scorched earth rebuilds are and how painful they are like agonizing through all of it and the the byproduct of it is you know not only your kids in a in a losing culture but they don't know what it feels like what a full game feels like like when you're on a team where the game's over by halfway through the second, you don't really get the feeling of what a real full game is. Or if you're out of the playoffs, you know, in late November, you don't get the real feeling of what a real season feels like. Like that's why, you know, whenever I hear fans talk about,

oh, my team's not going to make the playoffs, just tear the whole thing down, start up with all kids. I'm like, don't. It sounds like the easy default setting to lean back on. It's painful and it does a lot of damage. and you think what'll take three years could end up taking seven. And that's just to get to the playoffs.

Let's just get to the playoffs. That's not even a winning game. Right. Like, yeah, like when you arrive to the playoffs, it's like a few more years beyond that. Senators last year. You need to learn how to play playoff hockey and how to lose in the playoffs

before you learn how to win in the playoffs. It's just how it works. And when I look at the sharks, like this point was brought up by, I believe, a chatter on our show today. Like, the sharks have really nobody in their group that they're building around on defense, whereas Chicago has...

Dickinson. Oh, she's supposed. Yeah, but Chicago's got like a ton. Oh, yeah, right. And they're all like six foot seven. Yeah, huge. That we've ever seen. It's like the Philadelphia Flyers blue line from 1995.

It's just like massive back there. And the guys can really move too. And, you know, Sam Renzel is going to be a, you know, low-key candidate for the call. it's it's it's it's it's it's impressive um let me close on let me close on a positive note here uh what do you guys make i've i've described carolina as an acquired taste right like not everybody loves the way that they play i like it because when there are turnovers they play that man to man the minute you see a turnover all of a sudden ice appears we're so used to zone this zone this own this

that all the ice is clogged up when you play man to man and the puck turns over you could actually take a few strides out there. So I think that's kind of cool. But what do you make of the Carolina Hurricanes and their perfect start? I mean, I kind of wanted to go forever, but they're sort of where the Jets were last year, where you're like, okay, we think we've gotten the picture with what happens with you guys. We know what your story is. So we're going to watch you in the regular season and we're going to enjoy it, but we're not going to really make a grand statement until you do the thing you haven't been able to do in the playoffs which for the hurricanes it's unfair to compare

them to the jets because the hurricanes keep going almost all the way and then they run into a wall but this is the best served and best suited they are to make a run so like if they get the top seed in the Atlantic I mean

I'm kind of doing the math here based on where the standings are right now but you're going to have an easier road than you probably would have in years past because the world beaters right now like the the the panthers especially don't look like they're going to be the panthers so i think they've got an easier road and a better roster than they have the last couple of years so i'm totally a believer in them it it's funny that they made like the big trade

with dallas last year because i feel like carolina and dallas are kind of like the same same team in different conferences where it's they just keep hitting that wall in the conference final and like if you tell me they're going to they're tear up the league during the regular season 100% absolutely believe you i'm not shocked at all it's just will it matter like in the spring and like that's not to say that these teams don't show up in the spring it's just they keep running into this wall where they find a team that's better and so like that's i need to see something that really really convinces me that carolina has taken that massive step forward and is playing a little bit of a different way and i just don't know if we're going to see that in the regular season what i'll say though is

like, I wonder if last years, if last years Hurricanes team dealt with this year's Eastern Conference, like, do they maybe get to the Stanley Cup final? Like, like, maybe. And that shows how close it all is,

but through two weeks of the season, who in the Eastern conference is saying to you, like, well, that's going to be what shuts that, what shuts that down? I would say the Maple Leafs, but I don't know. And we could say the Canadians with how fun it is that they win all these games but at some point at some point they're going to lose a

bunch of close games so like there isn't a team right now and you could say it's detroit and i'd say maybe not quite yet i kind of think and i mean it all looks stupid for this but like i kind of think it might be as simple as the hurricanes are for sure the best team in the eastern conference Let me close on this. Brad Marchand, Rasmus Dahlane, the helmet in the penalty box, tearing off the ear loops. Was that Brad Marshan pissed off at Rasmus Dahlene or was that Brad Marshan and the Florida Panthers frustrated at what is happening to this team right now? Oh, that's great. I mean, historically when he does stuff like that, it is him pissed off at that one moment and he just sees red and he goes not.

So based on history, I'll say that. I don't think that's what he is. But damn, I mean, he did a good enough job. Like we had him on the show last year when he was at the Bruins. He did a good enough job keeping a poker face through the Bruins struggles. Obviously, his role there is a captain. So he's kind of got to be the spokesperson. But I didn't even consider it.

It's a good other possibility you bring up, which is like, oh boy, we could be in for a long season. Yeah, I mean, I think that it's a little bit of A, a little bit of B. Like, I don't think that Brad Marchand is probably the biggest fan of Rosmastaline, and it probably goes both ways. But, you know, I think that to see him lose it to that degree also. And, like, I think that maybe it's just him trying to light a spark under his team. And while they're losing to the Buffalo Sabres in the second period, like maybe just fire the boys up and see if that provides a spark.

But, yeah, it's, I bet that Marchand is probably not super thrilled with the way this thing is going right now. Most fun part about that, Merrick, if he got fine, $5,000, the maximum allowable under the collective bargaining agreement. If he got suspended for that, tomorrow's his homecoming against the Bruins. How perfect

would that have been if Brad Marshawn got himself suspended for his return to Boston? The same guy who got suspended the first time he was given an A and he cheap shot at Mark Borvietzky and got suspended for the Winter Classic. How perfectly Brad Marchand would that be to

miss his own party because he just got a little too pissed off at Rasmus Dahlia and had to take it out on the warrior lid. Love it. And they say this sport has no poetry. It would have been certainly wonderful. Listen, on that, we're going to let you guys go. Thanks so much, as always, for Stop-A-bye. Congratulations.

I know I speak on behalf of everybody here. Just thrilled to have what chaos. And the ice resurfacing dog logo as part of the Nation Network and Daily Faceoff Mix. Thanks, boys. Be good. We'll be calling often. Thank you. You're the best. Thanks, buddy.

There he is DJ Bean and Pete Blackburn. The power duo, not to be confused, the impact players, but the power duo that is the What Chaos program. Thrill to have them aboard, Zacharoo. Thrilled to have them aboard. Yeah, those guys I'm big fans of. I watched their show last year, especially all year, like leading into our show earlier in the day, basically bouncing from morning cup of hockey to leave some morning,

take to that one. It's something I've always got going on in the background as I'm prepping for our show. So to hear that they're coming over, it's awesome. Now, the only thing, and I forgot to text him about this. My brain broke when I, I was happy for Pete when I saw that he was in the Amazon Prime doc, but I was, like, there was part of me that wanted to, like, jump out of my skin when I knew it was a Bruins fan who was narrating the Leafs downfall. like that that was that was sickening that was sickening sorry suck it up man too bad but but very excited to have them part of the team

I love those guys I love their show yep uh every day at noon eastern uh it is it is appointment it is appointment video you got to watch those two guys are fantastic and I would imagine that's not the only content they'll be doing here at daily face off and I would imagine as well that every show will want to get themselves a piece of the What Chaos Guys. So hope you know you signed up for boys

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From Game Day Eats to paper plates and napkins if you're hosting to all the ingredients you need to make your favorite game day dip. Before, during, and after the game, Uber Eats is assisting every fan hockey experience all season long what do we have today and what's quickly become my favorite segment here yeah three here and we're going to throw this one back to the 60s into 71 jeff we've got starting in 1963 on october 20th phil goyette set a franchise record for the new york rangers

with four assists in one period. That one came against the Boston Bruins and a five to one victory. In 1971, the Minnesota North Stars set a team record with 57 shots on goal in a 7-0-0 win over Vancouver. Cesar Maniago records his 17th shutout. And in 1971, Bobby Orr scored a goal and added two assists to reach 400 career points

in his 3333NHL game in a 4-3 win over Detroit. I always talk about lost rivalries. Rivalries that have been lost to the annals of time. We think about the Detroit Red Wings and the Montreal Canadiens. I'll always cite the Rocket Richard Riots that was out of Detroit-Montreal game. We think famously of Patrick Waugh's final night in the forum where he was, to put it politely, he was hard to hit that night and just was just

they were, Detroit was just firing beach balls through Patrick Waugh that rivalry's been lost to history. The other great one that's been lost to history is Boston and New York to the point where and can quibble amongst yourselves whether the NHL

should have a trophy named after this person but here we go. The New York Rangers Boston Bruins rivalry was as intense as any rivalry was in the mid-60s to the early 70s. I've always maintained that that Rangers team is the best team to not win a Stanley Cup.

There should have been at least one cup for those Rangers teams. There were zero. But I think about this one. Would it surprise you, considering my previous point earlier on the show, about half the league should be in jail at certain times of hockey history, that would William Jennings, the president of the New York Rangers in that era, let's just call it for the sake of the segment, the Phil Goyette era, put a bounty on the head of Ted Green of the Boston Bruins, the president of the Rangers putting a bounty on the head of a, should the NHL have a trophy

named after someone who put a bounty on another man's head? I know we like to pride ourselves on being tough but bounty might be a line yeah the NFL seemed to be able to get over it I think of Sean not too long ago he got kicked out he did that then all of a sudden there's a movie made about him

he's welcome back into the league so I don't know what's like a what's the saying for you know when you move past something you forgive forgive and forget I don't know give him forget man yeah yeah who cares

Just keep it moving. It was a different time, as you said, everybody should have been in jail. So we move on. We embrace history in the NHL here. We embrace the history. Not here to judge anything that any player or in this case, any executive may have done. Yeah, that's all good. It's all good.

I just thought these are some fun ones. Trophy named after. Anyhow. All right, a couple of games on the go around the NHEL this evening. The sheet is powered by Fandul. play your game with Fandle. It's the NHL season and Fanduil is your home for

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We're looking Minnesota at the Rangers. The Cracken are playing against the Flyers tonight, savers against the Habs, and the Jets, Flames, and Hurricanes, Golden Knights. couple that stand out to me, which I think is starting the season, I wouldn't, yeah, that one I would have had circled. One of the ones that I wouldn't have that I am intrigued by tonight, Seattle, Philly, that one is interesting. Like, Seattle, they, I'm not going to say they look incredible, but they look good and I wasn't expecting this. I do think they regress a little bit, but they're kind of fun right now. Yanni Nevin, as he talked about the other day.

You bring up Berkeley Caton. Now you're all of a sudden looking at younger guys in there. How about it been years? How about what Shane Wright did you did to your Leafies on Saturday? I blocked that out of my mind. I went to the Jays game last night. I saw that one. I'm going to the Jays game tonight.

I have no idea what's happening in any other Toronto sports. It's just that's it. That's all that matters is the Blue Jays right now. Yeah. Well, I can assure you. I don't know what other... Shane Wright had a really good game against the team in the center of the hockey universe.

Let's just put it that way out. And you got the goaltender lipping off about it now. Anyhow, look for that. And I mentioned Berkeley Caton, first round draft pick. Seattle Cracken makes his debut in an NHL uniform tonight. And that Carolina Hurricanes, you know, a perfect five in order to kick off the season, put it on the line tonight against the Vegas Golden Knights who are down Mark Stone. I always look at the innocent-looking injury.

as the ones that are more severe. When you look at the Mark Stone injury, he just fell down, you know, and didn't look like much or, if anything, at all. And now is big question marks about Mark Stone who's just playing such good hockey on a line with Barbushchev and Jack Eichol. That sucks for them,

but no one's going to cry. They've got enough firepower, including the quietest 30-goal score in the NHL. Let's all see it together. Avaldorfiev. And that will wrap things up. Thanks so much for stopping by the show today.

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