The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Necas Extends and Nashville and Boston Spiralling ft. Greg Wyshynski & Pete Blackburn
Episode Date: October 30, 2025Jeff Marek and Greg Wyshynski return with another jam-packed episode of The Sheet, diving into the biggest storylines across the NHL. The guys open with a spirited debate about the future of league le...adership and Frozen Frenzy coverage before turning their attention to the breaking news of Martin Nečas’ massive extension with the Colorado Avalanche. Then, it’s all about the Nashville Predators — their early-season struggles, Juuse Saros’ workload, Steven Stamkos’ slow start, and whether it’s only a matter of time before Barry Trotz returns behind the bench. That leads perfectly into the Ninja Question of the Day: What’s the next move for the Nashville Predators?From there, Marek and Wyshynski welcome Pete Blackburn (What Chaos, DFO Network) to tackle the Boston Bruins’ woes, Pavel Zacha’s value, and the confusion around the team’s direction. The trio also reflect on Jonathan Toews’ return to Chicago, Montreal and Detroit’s hot starts, and how a sense of “unfinished business” continues to haunt Boston. They wrap with a lighthearted Hockey History segment presented by Uber Eats, including Jean Béliveau’s 1100th point, the Sutter brothers’ legendary game, and a look back at Steven Stamkos’ first career goals.#TheSheet #JeffMarek #GregWyshynski #PeteBlackburn #NashvillePredators #BostonBruins #MontrealCanadiens #DetroitRedWings #JonathanToews #ChicagoBlackhawks #NHL #Hockey #DailyFaceoffSHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Shark Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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So Greg Wosinski, it's a day where we will have 11 games on the board tonight.
So it's not a frozen frenzy, but I'm trying to come up with a cutesy name for the NHL tonight.
It's not quite a frenzy.
Is it a like a frozen fervor?
Is it a like a frozen agitation?
is it do we go like
Thursday tumult
like how do you want to do this
it's not frenzy like it's not that crazy
it's like it's not a fire
it's a contained fire like
how do we want to how do we want to pitch this one
tonight with only a love games
like a Thursday tussle
like tumult is pretty good
that's a good like
yeah thank you
five cent vocabulary test word
thank you
you know it's not enough games
where anonymous
NHL team executives will bitch to Pierre LeBron
about the start times.
Our season ticket holders don't appreciate
the 615 start.
The first people to complain
about a lack of revenue opportunities
in the National Hockey League
are then the first people to complain
whenever anybody, the NHL,
the rights holders,
anybody tries something.
a little bit different and adventurous and by the way
whenever I read something like that from anonymous team executives
complaining about like the start times confuse our fans or whatever
no one I always think back to the first winter classic
and I think to myself how many teams the NHL had to go through
before they got to Pittsburgh and Buffalo
to host the first winter classic and it was a
non insignificant number of them and I always think back to you know
it's a good thing they don't they don't they don't listen to some of these guys sometimes
because then the real adventurous stuff the league attempts would be squashed like a bug
because a bunch of rich old white guys are complaining about it do you think that is I want
to ask you about some frozen frenzy stuff sort of some behind the scenes from someone deep
inside ESPN as you are they're documenting all of it but do you think that that's like
we're going to go through a process here in, I don't know how long, but probably not long order
where there is a change within the NHL and there's, you know, a new commissioner and maybe
there's a new Coley Campbell.
Like if it's, let me give an example.
If the next Gary Betman is Bill Daly and the next Coley Campbell is Brendan Shanahan, how different do you think things are?
I agree.
And should be, yes.
How different are things?
That's an interesting question because I think that people don't recognize how active Gary is behind the scenes when it comes to the presentation of the game, not only in meetings with rights holders, but also in trying to push teams towards increasing access and pushing the game forward and making it more accessible for rights holders and other.
other people to bring their cameras into locker rooms and things like that so like i i don't i've
never had a conversation with bill about his vision for like media um but i imagine if if steve mayor
is still the guy who's in charge of the big events and and they still have many of the people in
the n hl that are there now there won't be too much change there i mean if you're talking about like
the game itself the the bigger change would be colin campbell to shanahan uh one
because I don't think he's got any relatives in the league at the moment.
And two, because I think Shanahan has showed himself to be someone who's very forward-thinking.
And in that capacity as sort of the NHL's rules are, if you will,
I think that he could get back to the Shanahan that we saw during the canceled season to really revamp the game.
It's the hockey guy beside the commissioner, right?
Here is, here is like the hockey guy who's had a number of different positions, not unlike Colin Campbell.
We're springing the commissioners here.
This is what we should do.
And listen, I've said it before.
You said it before.
Shanahan, to me, seems like an obvious pick.
Before we're getting way ahead of ourselves, that's a decision for somewhere.
Way down the road.
By the way, Martin Natchez, Elliot Friedman, breaking this one a second ago, has signed.
Oh, man, if you're Adrian Kempay right now, juicy, juicy, I might be the only one on the board at July 1st.
Avs and Martin ACHUS, eight-year contract, 11.5 on the AAV, front-loaded $60 million in signing bonuses, full no move in the first seven years of his new deal.
Wowza.
Let's get there in a couple of seconds here.
In the meantime, we'll kick out the program by letting you know what's on the program today.
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Coming up at the bottom of the hour, we're going to talk about the Boston Bruins.
and other NHL issues
and probably the Martin NACCH's contract extension
that Elliott just broke a couple of seconds ago.
Pete Blackburn from what chaos stops by.
We'll talk about the national predators.
Greg, I have a theory or an idea
or maybe just a hot take,
but I'm going to spill it all out here in a couple of seconds.
The Toronto Maple Leafs are spiraling,
and if anybody was paying attention to the game last night,
they may or may not have noticed
that a couple of jerseys hit the ice.
Meanwhile, Montreal and Detroit on fire.
That was once like the greatest,
that was once like the best rivalry in the NHL,
but I'm going back to the 50s.
Anyhow.
Jonathan Tavis faces off against the Chicago Blackhawks,
and as we mentioned out the top,
what is next in Boston?
But before we get to my thought on
or a question about the Nashville Predators,
because unlike how when I say things,
you don't go away and think about them,
I thought a lot about what you said
about the Preds on Tuesday.
And I want to share that with some of my thoughts off of it
in a couple of seconds here.
But anything you can share with us,
peek behind the curtain we talk about,
wrestling style, peek behind the curtain at Frozen Frenzy Night around ESPN.
Wish the floor is yours.
I mean, I just wanted to cut, like, listen, there's like a thousand things that I would
do to the frenzy to spice it up in the image of Greg Wachinsky.
I think the job that we do is tremendous insofar as, you know, dropping into games and,
and, you know, focusing on on the moments.
but like
would hang on
would there be a swipe at Mike
would there be a swipe at Mike Milbury
if it were up to you
would there be anything about Mike
Milbury in the broadcast
I would like it
if I had my druthers
yeah I would like it to be a little
less NFL red zone
and more
sampling the buffet
of 32 teams at the same time
early in the season
a real kind of get to know you
situation and maybe more of a focus
on things
Like, for example, J.T. Miller returning to Vancouver and the inherent drama there,
like I feel like that could be accentuated a bit more.
And some of those stories could be accentuated a bit more.
But, like, again, that's what I would want out of it.
I would also want out of it for it to be more like Monday Nitro in 1990s,
where you cut to a fan viewing party of the Frozen Frenzy and check in on.
Like, here we are at the mall.
it's hard to get hockey fans all on the same page like you know I think it happens for big
international events but it rarely happens during the NHL regular season and I think when people
gripe about the frozen frenzy they gripe about split screen stuff which is just whatever
I mean you can never know when things are going to happen in a game and I think they gripe
about it being where it is in October. But again, like, you know, you'd have this on a
Saturday getting absolutely shalacked by college football otherwise. Yeah. But I think it's also kind of
like we all want it to be a night where we sit around and go on social media and talk about
a shared experience. And I'm not sure if we're there with it yet. But again, I love it. I think
it's awesome. And I think that we can get there with it.
The way that we used to do it when we did ice surfing, which is similar in spirit,
the way that we would do it is, and we would do it every Tuesday, we would present it as sort
of one continuous game, but you're dropping, continuing to drop in on a lot of games,
but only the highlights of them.
And you give a quick little backstory, like for 10 seconds, that leads into it.
Now, I think one of the mistakes that we made doing it is, and again, this is like, sorry
producers, producers always want to make it a show and let's bring in guests and,
and let's have segments.
No, no, no.
The way that I would visualize doing this thing,
because to your point,
this is like we're going up to the buffet
and we're going to try things
that we've never tried before
because we're not going to look at the menu
and say, I'm not paying $18 for something
I don't know about.
But if it's one price for all,
I might put that on the side of my plate.
And that's kind of what you're doing here.
And the way we used to do it is when something happened,
let's say it was the first game.
Pittsburgh, Philadelphia.
Okay, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia is the first game on Tuesday night.
When a goal happened or a fight happened.
happened or something controversial happened.
Producers would flag it, say, hang on, 40 seconds, you're going to it.
And we would present, we'd throw to it and present it as if, now let's drop in on the Philadelphia
fires and the Pittsburgh Penguins.
And we'd present it as if it were live without ever putting on live on the screen.
But you knew that when we're going to a game, something was going to happen.
So essentially, what you're doing is you're taking, you know, in this case, 16 games
and making it all one single game,
but only the highlights from all of them.
A big goal, here's 30 seconds of a power play,
here's a fight, here's a controversial video review,
here's a crease crash, something like that.
That's how I would envision, again,
like if I ran the zoo,
I would try to put the premium only on the highlights of the game
and try to make it less of a show.
Because let's face it, guys like me would just get in the way.
I think that,
I think that's what they did for the most part.
I mean, I guess if you have a guest on,
my hope would be more like the Manning cast
where you're kind of like watching the games
and watching the highlights with the guest
versus kind of taking a sidebar.
But, you know, I think they did a lot of the things you mentioned.
I think the challenge is that people are so used to watching Red Zone
and on NFL Sunday.
And it's a constant stream of check-ins with games
where important shit's happening.
And the problem with hockey is that there's no Red Zone.
unless you're going to just show every power play in its entirety or every overtime.
It's hard to, I mean, you might go a good 15 minutes without there being anything happening
in any of these games.
And so that becomes kind of the challenge.
Okay.
So the big news of the day is the Martin Nature's contract extension with the Colorado Avalanche.
I honestly thought, Greg, that of all the players that we saw who were, you know,
McDavid is off the board and Eichel is off the board and Cali Conner is off the board,
the one guy that I thought would get to free agency figuring there was a lot of money that
was out there and the people to spend it on was getting fewer and fewer that it would be
Martin Natchez.
Is this just an example of Martin Natchez having a number and saying, if you hit this number,
I'm here.
If you don't hit this number, I'm gone.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that this number still comes in less than me
go ranting it well that was the whole reason they traded rantman well that's what i'm saying is that
they felt they they thought that they could find a way to find a cheaper model that had
commiserate production and in 41 games with the colorado avalanche martin hs has 41 points
so they're getting commiserate production and they're paying what uh what what has come out to
2.2 million A.AV less than what they probably would have to pay Brantan.
Wasn't he up to like 14 in that neighborhood?
It was something in that neighborhood, yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, like.
And with with with this one, they have money for, they have like they're healthy to sign.
We sign McCar.
That's, that's a big.
That's the whole point.
Like they, their argument was it was a financial consideration based on, you know, the work
they needed to do at the trade deadline to make the team back.
better and then also down the line from a car and then also and you know this may have been
said or unsaid they kind of felt like if you put another player with dynamic offensive skills
in the wing into that system with mckinon on that power play uh you could get commiserate results
and again like like randon was well over a point per game with the avalanche but natius is a point
for game player.
So, I mean, if you want to look at the nuts and bolts of why they made the decision
they made last year, you have to say, based on this contract, that they made the right call.
Okay, park that one for a second.
We'll get Blackburn's thoughts on this at the bottom of the hour.
I want to, I want to see your, I want to see your reaction to this one.
It has been said before in, in WWE circles, the, I remember Adam Copeland told me this, Edge.
he said that the vibe from up on high
the way that you make money is not your work rate
is not your body
the way you make money in wrestling
is with your face
your visuals
the way that you can emote
the way that you can connect with people
I'm curious to see your face when I say this
it's only a matter of time
before Barry Trots is coaching
the National Predators again right
like that's what that's like does it not feel like I thought about what you were saying
to the day a lot and this is the conclusion that I that I came to it's only a matter of time
before Barry Trots is coaching again and coaching the Preds what does that mean for his general
manager role I don't know Brian Poyle has been there going back to 2018 you know as you
know assistant general manager David Poyle's son
strong background with the National Predators.
Does it not feel like this is all going to end up
with Barry Trots coaching again?
Excellent coach.
Let's talk about.
Let's game this out.
Okay.
One of the reasons why people didn't believe
that Andrew Brunette was going to be fired before this season
is because of how much money they owe him.
He has a contract beyond this season.
And so you never want to pay a guy not to coach while paying another guy to coach.
Correct.
Now, if you're already paying a guy to general manage.
Correct.
And you just have to have to have now.
This is part of our conversation the other day.
Yes.
Right.
So now you're not, now you're not paying two coaches.
You're paying one coach not to coach.
And your general manager is already being paid.
And now he can coach along with managing.
generally.
So from that aspect, it's kind of a clever notion.
And obviously, like, for those, like, obviously, he's got so much cachet within that
organization and within that community, like the idea of how do you get people excited again
about a team that is wallowing would be to have the best coach in franchise history, you know,
come back behind the bench.
And when I say wallowing, I looked inside the numbers.
So they're 24th in five on five.
scoring and five-on-five expected goals.
They're 28th in five-on-five defense,
22nd in five-on-five expected goals against.
The real problem is that when you're not good at even strength,
you need to make up for it somewhere.
And they are not making up for it on the power play
where they are 30th.
Right.
UC Soros, good.
He's back, baby.
90-5 goalie.
He's a 905 goalie right now.
That's fine.
You're north of 900.
Yeah, positive side of expected.
Yeah, positive side of expect.
expected, expected goals, his goal saved above expected.
That's great.
But then there are other players, as we talked about the other day, Stephen Stamcoast,
that are not performing.
So, like, there's a lot of bad news.
Yeah.
And then there's a goalie who's basically kind of keeping them relevant at this point in the season.
Yeah.
And there's also a, what is it, like a $700 renovation on Bridgestone Arena as well.
That the Nashville Predators started to undertake in the, in the summer to,
you know, improve the fan experience there.
That's not lost on ownership, Bill Haslam,
a new owner with the Nashville Predators.
I don't think that's lost at all.
And a lot of that is going to be predicated on.
We're going to polish this thing up real nice,
and people are going to come here because we're going to have a good team.
The problem is the National Predators aren't a very good team at all.
And the one coach who's been able to make them go,
the one guy who's sitting there as a manager,
And we documented all the sort of, you know what,
you're making a trade here or you're signing as if you're still a coach
and not a general manager.
That guy's sitting right there.
And that's why I want.
And he's a Stanley Cup coach.
That's why I wonder, is it only a matter of time before Barry Trots is coaching this team.
And do you need to do it soon?
Do you need to do it soon before there's not even a point?
And you're just in the Gavin McKenna sweepstakes.
Well, you're asking, you're missing the bigger.
question, which is, does it matter?
That's not a playoff roster.
You get it's a playoff roster?
I don't think so, but we've seen teams before who aren't part of a playoff
rock. Look, one of the things we've been talking about, I know they play in an incredibly
difficult division as well.
It just got even harder now that Utah is a much improved team.
Yeah, exactly.
But at St. Louis and Minnesota are falling out of this thing, too.
If you're the national predators, you don't throw in the towel this early, you say, you know
what we still do have players here and we have a goaltender that's keeping our head afloat and if you'll
recall it wasn't too long ago that even though the national predators were out of the play it was like
five or six years ago when national was out of the playoff picture come all-star break u.sssarro said
that's it get on my back boys and took him to the playoffs i mean he has done this before
he's an older goalie now but to what but to what end to get to the playoffs to get to the playoffs
but you just mentioned you just said it yourself like the way the central sets up
assuming Utah is for real
these are going to have Colorado
Dallas Utah
or Winnipeg
right in that top three
your entry point is probably
the second wildcard
out of the central
and so congratulations
Barry Trots you've earned the right to get
your ass handed to you by Colorado or
Vegas like what is I want
you hang on a second hang on a house
I want I want you to think
like owners think for a second
because rebills have been presented, you know, to Vancouver ownership before.
That's a non-starter.
Every season, it's got to get into the playoffs.
Rebuilds have been, you know, presented to owners before.
No, thanks.
We're not going through that.
We want some playoff revenue or a shot at it.
Again, like this is a market that's been competitive for a lot of years.
This is a market that's starting to see the beginning of a significant, what could be
a significant dip here, and it's not as if their prospect pool is, you know, turning heads or
lighting the prospect followers on fire here.
I'm just, I'm just wondering, like, do you owe it to your team, your fans, to at least try
to salvage this season and is Barry Trots going behind the bench the first way to do that?
Or are you just saying, oh, you know what?
Call Montreal, see if they want Stamco's.
I think there's a chronic problem in sports and in the NHL in particular about team ownership, believing fans are complete morons.
And that market is mature enough where they would probably rather see the predators aggressively get younger and get deeper talent-wise with young players than wallowing mediocrity for five years, hoping to be.
to get a wild card and two games of playoff revenue.
Like, I think the market is mature enough to accept the rebuild
in a way that ownership probably doesn't believe in a payoff.
You know how long fan bases accept?
Because every fan base talks the same way.
Every fan, oh, yeah, we're prepared for a rebuild.
We can handle it.
Our team needs to do it.
We're prepared for a rebuild.
You know how long they say that?
One year.
Two years.
One.
You're wrong.
One.
One year.
And then they start to get squirly.
And then you start to see it affect your bottom line.
I think we're going to quibble about one year or two years.
Fine.
One year or two years.
That's a big difference because here's a thing.
In year one, it's a honeymoon.
You have celebrini.
You have Badaard.
You're all pretty happy about now we've got something to build around.
Then year two, it's like, okay, who are his friends?
Oh, here's Will Smith.
Here's Nazar.
Like, and then year three, it's like, all right, you got the guy.
We got his friends.
Maybe we can start winning some games now is how it happens.
I don't think it's after one year.
I think it's after two years.
I think the Chicago and San Jose most recent rebuilds have frightened teams.
Like San Jose's still not even close.
Like, they're going to challenge for a cup in 60, like four years.
There's no guarantee.
There's no guarantees.
They look good.
They absolutely look.
good now, but there's still, there's still no guarantees on that. As you look around it,
you know, the, every night's a costume party and everyone's dressed as an empty seat.
That terrifies owners.
Right.
That's what, that's what those, that's what rebuilds are. And owners don't generally, don't
have a stomach for it.
You know, it's funny. Like, I, San Jose in particular, Chicago is kind of a, a different market
because it's an original 16 and what have you. But like,
San Jose was so moribund after their run of like cup contention that really the only way to jumpstart this engine was to tank and to start fresh and to bring in a new crew of players.
Like you were never going to be able to do what you're suggesting with Nashville in San Jose because that market, I think, has a, and I'm not trying to insult Nashville fans here.
I think the San Jose market has a higher expectation for that franchise.
The ceiling is higher.
They've come to accept the kind of success that they had for 15 years with Thornton and Marlow there.
And if you don't hit that mark, I don't think they show up.
And so I think in that market, you had to tear it down to then get Celebrini and Smith
and all the guys that are going to be really good there in like two, maybe two, three years.
I think in Nashville's case, I just,
just think that they will settle for a rebuild before they'll settle for the mushy middle.
Okay, let's use this as a jump-off point before we get to Pete Blackburn here.
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What do we have for a QOD today?
Zach Phillips.
Yeah, today's QOD is on the theme of the Nashville Predators.
What's the next move for the Predators?
So I post it to the chat and people online.
Some of the responses we've got so far, Spencer Newton.
Nashville should quit while they're behind.
They are a bottom five team in the NHL,
keep sorrows and trade everyone else.
Both Ryans would be worth a lot.
Okay.
We also have a couple other Portuguese walrus said
the Preds need to tank so that the Wild
have somebody to feel superior to this season.
Oh, wow.
Oh, geez, shot at Garon Squad.
Donnie does dishes just says
Preds are slow like the Leafs.
Ryan B says, is firing trots an option?
And then the other one here, again, from Portuguese walrus is they're going to stay as they are as long as Barry is GM.
Might make a Hail Mary trade or two.
I just don't see things changing there.
Let me throw an option out.
I think is, I'm going to try to will this into existence this year.
Okay.
Is there a team, Jeff Merrick?
that is constantly in need of a playoff scoring hero.
Is there a team that has been maybe only a scant couple of goals away
from advancing from the conference final to the Stanley Cup final?
The Carolina Hurricanes of the Metropolitan Division, sir,
I believe you're referring to.
Are you suggesting Jonathan Marsha's so to the Carolina Hurricanes?
Oh, my.
Find a more perfect.
I've watched several seasons of Love is Blind.
There has never been a match on that show more perfect than the one I just made.
Jonathan Marcia So, who, by the way, I think completely fits the Carolina aesthetic as well as being a complete pain in the ass.
Send him to Carolina as the guy who gets you that one goal you've needed and be the playoff hero.
You know, you know, perfect trait.
Let me throw a sort of like hockey dad geeky sidebar to this.
One of the things, and I don't think, yeah, the more geeky, exactly.
the hockey dad, Morgan, geeky part of the conversation here.
One of the things that I understand is important to Jonathan Marcia,
so as it is to other players when choosing a market to go to is
what's the youth hockey program like?
Because a lot of these guys have kids that play and they want them to go to good programs.
That's why Nashville, who has actually two really good programs running beside each other,
chose Nashville.
That was one of the considerations.
You know who else has a great youth hockey program?
Raleigh.
Junior Cains are, that's an awesome program.
That's really done well, which is, and to Nashville's credit,
I remember when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, one of the main things that the Preds did was invest in youth hockey and youth hockey programs.
And I never put two and two together.
I just thought they're helping to create the marketplace.
That's actually a lure.
that's actually a draw for players because there's a place for their and let's face it
their high level kids to play hockey Carolina fits I hate to be the one to tell you this
but one market that certainly is growing in leaps and bounds and the quality of their youth hockey
would be Fort Lauderdale if you needed another thing to get mad about on top of the taxes
and the beaches right now all of those kids are going to be playing against the alumni of
of former Panthers.
They'll have that going for them as well.
Okay, very good.
With that, we'll bring aboard our guest for the program today.
He is no stranger, certainly to Daily Faceoff and the Nation Network,
where his program, what chaos, are now card-carrying members of DFO.
He is the one and only Pete Blackburn, who is here with his USA hockey hat designed specifically to offend me.
Pete, how are you?
Right.
I'm good.
I'm good.
Thanks for having me.
I was told that I have to make an immediate player comp that me being on this show is
McDavid, dry, sidle, Trent Frederick.
And I would be the Trent Frederick.
No, no, no.
You're a better F1.
Come on, knock that off.
That's ridiculous, Pete.
We do want to get in the best to win a face off.
Someone's got to win a face off.
Someone's going to win a board battle.
That's you, Pete, Blackburn.
Before we get into Boston.
The news that A. Martin Naches is off the board, you know, leaving the field open now for Adrian Kempay, should he get to July 1st?
Do you have a sort of nickel and dime or maybe, you know, dollar and cent thought on what we just saw out of Colorado today?
Yeah, we kind of reacted to it live on the show. And the feeling that we came away with was like they had to do it.
They kind of painted themselves into that corner a little bit, but don't love the number.
And there was a lot of assumptions on DJ's part. Well, like, well, if he's a 30 to 35,
goal score over the duration of this contract, it's going to be fine with the cap going up and all
that. And it's felt the need to remind him and everybody else, like, Martin H.S. has never
hit 30 goals. And right now, he's shooting 30%. Is that going to sustain? Like, I know that it
works with McKinnon, but I don't know. I don't love the number, but I feel like it's a deal they kind
of had to do. Wish, what do you think? I think it's good. Like I said before you hopped on, Pete,
like the the gambit was to not pay rantan in in order to use that money on other other players
and then the idea was that you could find another winger to produce on this on the wing of mckinon
like once it's been established that they have decent chemistry and i think it's been
established then i i think that this signing made a lot of sense um i am with merrick though
like he mentioned the idea that you know of all the players that were potential free agents
that Natchez made the most sense that he might hit the market just because of past pain-in-the-ass negotiations with Carolina.
So it is a little interesting to see him commit both in money and years to Colorado in the way that he has.
But I don't know, kudos to Christopher for figuring this thing out and at the end of the day getting the guy on a contract that's less than what they would have paid rent and then being able to use that cap space for other things.
But at the same time, too, from Martin Natchez's point of view, too, this is a situation where he's going to be on a team now that's competitive for a long time.
You can go and chase every last nickel and rock a big contract.
But if your team is miserable and you're not winning, you're going to be miserable.
You're going to be locked into a long-term contract and almost impossible to move.
And the example there is Jonathan Huberto, who didn't have to resign with Calgary.
But when someone presents you with that kind of money, how do you say no?
not that Hubert O is a sort of cautionary tale,
but I do wonder how much players look at and say like,
you know what,
I could chase an extra million dollars somewhere else,
but is it worth it if I'm miserable where I go?
Unless there's going to be like some Stanley Cup contending team
that has all this cap space available to sign me,
in which case, yeah, sure, sign me up for that.
But generally, it's not going to be a team
that's as close to the Stanley Cup as a Colorado avalanche.
Pete, does that make sense to you?
Yeah, I don't think there's,
any, like, question about whether or not this is a good fit for, for NACIS and, like,
whether or not this is where he should take the deal.
I think the bigger question to Greg's point earlier is, like, well, we finally have an
answer is to, like, does he want to be anywhere?
Like, I wasn't even sure that he was going to play in the NHL next year based off of the way
that we hear and complain about every situation that he's in in the way that he negotiates.
I do.
By the way, I've mentioned this to Greg before.
And this place might be a sign of me aging, but you know what I really love more?
and more and more and more and more every single day that I'm alive.
Grumpy people and grumpy hockey players.
Grumpy people amuse me and I love them more and more the older I get.
I want the hockey player that gets to the rink.
And the first thing they do before saying hello to anybody is complain about the coffee.
Sign me up for that guy.
I want to be around grumpy people for the rest of my life.
Give me a team.
And there it is, folks.
There it is, folks.
The only indication that Jeff Merrick is aging.
No, I got the salt and pepper beard, too.
That's a dead giveaway.
I mean, I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying, but like you're playing on Nathan McKinnon's wing.
Like, you've got to pick your spots about what you complain about.
And, like, Leon Drysiddle is perfect because Leon Drysiddle has, like, has this inner grumpiness to him.
But he never is a dick.
He is a dick when the moment calls for him to be a dick.
And he's so good at being a dick.
So, like, Leon Dryslaid, I think is the.
gold standard of being an A-Hole hockey player.
This is its own show, or at least its own segment.
But I want to detour into another statement that Greg and I were talking about before he came
on.
And again, I'll preface it.
We're going to get to the Bruins, I swear.
I wonder, Pete Blackburn, if eventually here, perhaps sooner than later, I don't know.
Barry Trots ends up coaching Nashville again.
That that's where that's where this is.
headed. Pick that up or put it down. What do you think? Trots coaching Nashville again.
I mean, it would be real sick of hours if he saw that team and was like, you know what,
I should get even closer to them and have my fingerprints even more all over them. That would be
a real choice on his part. And like, you mentioned like you get, the older you get, the more
you appreciate grumpy people. The older I get, the more I appreciate people,
doing less work and like just enjoying their life as much as they possibly can.
I don't think Trots is enjoying this, Pete.
I don't think Barry is enjoying any part of this.
If I saw Barry Trots take over the reins and be like, what are you doing?
I don't know.
As a devil's fan, it strikes me.
It's just it happens sometimes.
Here comes Lou.
Here comes Lou behind the bench.
Only I can fix this.
I will be the iron fist behind the bench to scare them into quality and success.
It would be a tremendous story.
I just wonder where all this right now is headed for Nashville.
I mean, everybody is underperforming outside of UC Soros.
We have no idea of this.
You know, the size of the cliff that Stephen's Damcoast has fallen off of is immense.
And so where is it go?
Normally you talk about, okay, they're going to dust the coach because it's hard to make trades.
But if you do get let go of Andrew Burnett, I don't think that Bill Haslam, the owner, has an appetite to pay.
Andrew Burnett not to coach
and to bring in another coach
when they've already got a coach
who's won a Stanley Cup
who's making all these deals
that have got the National Predators
into the place that they're at now.
I mean, when you put it like that,
I'm kind of into this idea
because it's more of a punishment
than Barry Trots
like rewarding himself.
I like the idea of it being a punishment.
I'll say that.
Okay. All right.
Wish you want to hop on some Bruins talk here?
Yeah, so Pete, I suggested that we get
at Bruins, someone who knows the Bruins a little bit on today because like, we've been talking
a lot about Pavel Zaka and how like Pavel Zaka is a bit of a canary and a coal mine about
the direction of the team. Everybody outside the Bruins is like, of course you trade
Pavlzaka. It makes total sense. You guys need a lot of shit on your roster. And then the
Bruins like, actually, he's the kind of guy you keep around for what we're building. And then the
rest of us are like, what are you building? What do you see as the plan in Boston? Can you explain
to me, like, what you see that team trying to accomplish in the next, like, two to three
years?
No, I can't.
I mean, it's a bad answer.
You pick the wrong guy.
I can't tell you what I see this team trying to accomplish because I got to be, I think
that's been, that's been the big, like, the big issue that I feel like we all have around
here with the Bruins is like, ownership's telling us one thing, or not ownership, front office
is telling us one thing.
Like, we're committed to contending, to retooling.
This is not a rebuild.
we know that we can contend in the next like two years or so.
That seems to be the messaging that we're getting.
And then you look at the roster that they have right now and you say,
well, where are the players coming from that are going to help you contend in the next few years?
Because the free agency class doesn't look amazing.
Your prospect pool doesn't look amazing.
There's not a ton of help on the way.
So like if you, if the commitment is to competing in the next few years, yeah, you're
going to want to hang on to guys like Pavel Zaka because he's one of the few guys that you
can recognize when you look at their daily faceoff lineup every day. So that's my answer. But if
you're trying to be the best that you can at asset management and position yourself to actually
revamp this roster, you'd be wise to trade Pavel Zaka this season while he still has max
value. First of all, I tried to tell Zach to book Cam nearly. Like I knew Cam would be the
and I could explain all this shit.
And we couldn't get him.
He wouldn't pick up his phone.
And then we had to bring on Pete who's like,
I don't know what's going on.
If there's anybody who wants to talk about the Bruins less in their current state than me,
it probably can nearly.
Maybe Don Sweeney.
You might want to throw him into the mix as well.
They might even go to Charlie or Jeremy Jacobs.
I'm fascinated with,
and it's always tough to isolate the sliding door moment for every team.
Like the moment where things began.
to unravel that you only understand with like historical context and it's years and years later
there's two things that I there's there's two moments in the recent history of the Boston Bruins
that I that I point to and go okay that was a sliding door moment one of them was of course
a Brad Marchand breakaway on Sergei Bobrovsky and the Bobrovsky right pad safe that's the one
that we all look at but there's another one and it's in the 2022 playoffs it's Boston and
Carolina and Andre Svetnikov, as Hampus Linnholm is coming out from around the net,
Svichnikov absolutely destroys him.
I don't know that he's ever recovered from that hit myself, but the Bruins end up losing
that series.
Bruce Cassidy gets fired.
And if Svichikov doesn't catch Lindholm there, maybe the Boston Bruins win that series,
Bruce Cassidy never gets fired and, end, and, and, and, and maybe Pete Dabor is still
the head coach of the Vegas School of the Knights at that point.
don't know.
Which one of you were more to?
Maybe it would have found some way to sewer his goaltender.
He wouldn't have that job more.
Perhaps.
Do either of those sort of scream at you, that, that, you know, was the sliding door
moment for the Boston Bruins is Svechnikov hit on Linholm?
Linholm's back, by the way, tonight, or the Brad Marsham breakaway on Bobrovsky.
I mean, I think the one that easily jumps to the front of mind is them just losing to Florida.
and, you know, after the record-breaking season.
So, like, yeah, I guess, like, if you're going to kind of dissect it,
the Marshan one makes a lot more sense to me than the Lindholm one,
mainly because, like, Lindholm, before he got hurt last year,
and maybe this is a bigger point to what you're trying to say,
is, like, Lindholm is so important to this team
and that has become so incredibly apparent over the past couple of years.
because even this year
when he fell out of the lineup
after the first couple of games,
they fell apart defensively
and that was considered to be the strength of this team
or one of the strengths of this team
and they've just been a disaster defensively.
So I do think that blue line
really, really needs Hampus Lindholm
to be what it is thought to be.
I think unfinished business
is a poisoning element
in the National Hockey League.
If the Bruins beat the Panthers in that series and then they go on to win the cup after the season that they had, I mean, it's the end of Infinity War.
It's Thanos hanging up the armor being like, my work here is done.
They could do all, you know, there's retirements, there's Marchand leading, all that stuff can happen with a sense of satisfaction that we did it again.
And we got another banner up there and this group accomplished what they said to accomplish.
I think if Edmonton had won either of the last two Stanley Cup finals,
McDavid's a free agent this summer.
I just think the sense of unfinished business,
the sense of what might have been
is something that that kind of poisons the mind
of players and executives in this league.
And I'm sure it's played into the sense of,
let's just try to dig our heels in
and not rebuild in Boston.
But at what point,
then the conversation becomes like,
at what point is there too much unfinished business
to where there shouldn't be business at all?
And like that's where a lot of Bruins fans are
with this front office is like they're the almost the entire definition and uh sort of vibe around
this front office is that they do business they never finish it they've gotten close so many
times and like the body of work is not unpalatable it's not bad all the time they were handed
the keys to a very nice car and it just has never really reached the destination and now things
look really bad and i don't know how much face
there is in this group being the one to turn it around, especially when the messaging is kind of
confusing. Do you think the math on their future would be different if they didn't sign
Pastronach to that extension? Like if they didn't want to squander having a player like that on the
roster, like if he wasn't there, would they be rebuilding right now? I think that there would definitely
be more clarity in that they need to rebuild. Like I think that when you have David Posternak,
Charlie McAvoy and Jeremy Swayman at three pillars on the front, back, and in net,
then you look at the team and you say, well, there is a path here to rebuilding something,
or there is a path here to the bones of this team being okay.
There's just nothing else really around them that makes you feel good about the direction,
and there's not a lot coming to make you feel good about the direction.
So that's where we are.
It's a confusing spot to be in.
It's going to lead to some very difficult decisions possibly in the next couple of years
where you might have to move off those guys because there's just really no path forward without wasting prime years.
I'm glad you mentioned Jeremy Swamen.
One of the things that Wish and I were talking about on Tuesday was this idea.
I've always sort of looked at goaltenders a very specific way.
When two goaltenders have similar save percentages like we see with Swainman and Corpus Sallow.
And listen, they could be, instead of being 886 and 870, they could be 921 and 919.
And I would say the same thing.
It's less about the goaltenders and it's more about something else, probably the defense.
Do you look at this tandem and Corpusallo goes tonight?
Do you look at Corpusallo and Swamen, Swamen at 886 and Corpusallo at 870?
Do you say, wow, these guys are really underperforming?
Or is the fact that their safe percentages are almost identical, tell you some.
something else about the Bruins.
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say that either one of them has been particularly good,
but I would say that neither one of them has been particularly the problem either,
like not even close.
So when you watch the Bruins and sort of what they've been recently,
especially during that skid,
they can't defend around the net whatsoever.
And it's been a disaster and it's been extremely unpalatable,
again,
because this was supposed to be one of the strengths of this team.
Like when you talk about a path forward,
for this team being competitive this year,
they've scored more than anybody is expected them to out of the gate.
What's been the problem is that the defense is just completely failing
and breaking down in front of the net,
and it's leading to a ton of goals against,
especially in spots where it immediately kills momentum
that has been generated by the forward group up front.
I want to ask you about your show for a second,
a proud member of the Nation Network, from what I understand.
True.
Zamponi Dog.
How does it make you feel when you see...
Yeah, indeed.
How does it make you feel when you see a player
wear a bright pink, what chaos hat?
I wish it was an NHL player,
but I'll take an NFL player.
It makes me feel great.
I mean, the fact that that happened
just rocked our worlds this week
to see a Buffalo Bills player
They're heading into the stadium on Sunday wearing What Chaos at.
Unbelievable stuff.
Very important to our producer is from Buffalo.
So this is the interesting thing.
I don't know.
Did anyone tell you that Tage Thompson was wearing one at the Player Media Tour?
No.
Tate Thompson was wearing.
No one told you this.
Nobody told me this.
I just assumed that they were becoming ubiquitous within the NHL community when I saw him wearing one.
I mean, that's unbelievable.
Thank you for telling me.
I wish that I had better friends directly around me
that would have relayed this to me.
This is great news.
Thank you.
I mean, I think, like, he's very tall.
So I'm pretty sure.
No one saw it.
I saw him wear one.
Yeah.
The underbrim looked a lot like your what chaos lids.
I think that it was one of those.
Okay, so now let's talk about what chaos fan tase Thompson.
Actually, I do want to ask you one thing about the Buffalo Sabres.
I don't know how big I want to make this moment,
but it does feel kind of like,
perhaps the beginning of the ending of something.
Alex Lyon starts tonight for the Buffalo Sabres.
He's been really good.
He's been really good.
He's playing good.
Ukepeka Lukanin is, just by way of contract,
is supposed to be their number one guy.
Right now they're rocking three goaltenders, Colton Ellis as well.
Devin Levi and Alexander Georgiev,
banging it out in Rochester right now.
all the goaltenders, they've got a goalie magnet in the Buffalo Sabres organization.
All the goleys go there right now.
How big a story is this for you guys that Alex Lyon has the spot over Uca Pecha-Pecanin?
It kind of feels like this could be, it's not the end.
I can't imagine Luken is thrilled, but do we say it's the beginning of the end?
Does it feel that way for Luken and Buffalo?
I mean, I'd say no, because just because like the goal-tending is always.
so fickle and like it can change
on the drop of a hat like
I mean think to where we were
a year ago we were talking about like
the best sabers might be locked into one of the
best goalie tammes in the league
for years to come with
Ukopekalukin and Devin Levi
and now we're talking about Alex
Lyon being the one in Buffalo
so things change
very quickly and if you're
all I'll say about this situation is that
UPL's
reaction to how
this all develops, we'll say a lot about UPL because if you're the Buffalo Sabres, if you're
any of the guys in the room in Buffalo, you have to understand the spot that the franchise is in
and the pressure that is on that team to finally arrive. I don't care if it's a guy off the street
playing net for the Buffalo Sabers. If he's giving them the best chance to win hockey games right
now and snap that drought, nobody in the room should have a single problem with the best
goaltender getting the net.
I'm pretty sure the guy off the street was Eric Kammery, if memory serves.
Eric was Alex Lai, was there a changing of the guard when Alex Lyon got the Panthers into
the playoffs that one year?
I mean, there wasn't.
It's just what he does.
He gets good.
He gets hot.
He got him there, but then they, they went to a half.
And then he's not.
That save on Marshawn that we just talked about 10 minutes ago.
Yeah, I mean, like history has shown us.
There is precedent.
There is precedent for Alex Lyon, essentially spearheading and being the engine for a modern-day dynasty.
So is it, I think I'm going to reposition your question, Merrick, to are we looking at the beginning of a modern-day dynasty with the Buffalo Sabres?
So instead of the Buffalo Sabres sending players to Florida to win the Stanley Cup, it's going to be the opposite now.
The Florida Panthers are reciprocating by sending back the Reinhards and the mentors to go and win Stanley Cups and Rodriguez's to go win Stanley Cups in Buffalo.
Well, okay, that's, I'm glad we got to this spot here.
I just, this was a podcast from 15 years ago.
I feel like Merrick's like, I don't know, Dina Macchi, what do you think, Vezna?
Like, these guys are back up always.
Like, they just go on hot streaks and they're good for like a month and a half.
And then we don't think of them anymore because they just aren't.
Did you not see what he did with the phantoms?
I mean, Calder Cup is tough, man.
Will you have someone like Nidemaki?
You hold him sacred like a newborn.
Greg, you of all people.
Once again, proud father should know this.
I am a very proud.
I want to say this, though.
Like, I think a backup like Ninnamecki or Alex Lyon or there are some others that we've seen in this league are actually some of the most valuable guys you can have.
like Jake Allen, for example,
like a guy that can kind of like push your starter
and make him feel uneasy about his struggles.
And, you know, I think having a quality backup like that,
not only to bail you out for a good, you know, six weeks,
but also to like at least challenge the other guy,
I think is an incredible asset to have in this league.
I mean, we've gone from talking about the NHL
as like a two-goly league recently to now I think like,
We're talking about a three goalie league at this point because you need a 1A, you need maybe a 1B, and then you need a stabilizer.
Like if you don't have that stabilizer in the third spot, your season can go off the rails so quickly.
The problem is that that guy doesn't get the play.
And usually that guy's going to be a young guy and look at, you know, we think back to the COVID taxi squad and how many goaltenders and Michael DiPietro's front of that list did that almost totally crush.
I get it.
It's tough.
No.
It's,
it,
it,
it's,
that,
that's a,
I know what you're trying,
I know what you're saying,
I get it.
I just don't know how,
I mean,
listen,
the,
the history of teams
trying to make
the three,
three headed monster
work is,
is long and it
usually ends up
in the exact same place.
And at least one,
sometimes two,
get major booboo face about it.
I'm not saying,
I'm not saying that you have to
keep three goalies on the roster.
I'm saying that,
like,
if you don't have a third goalie
in the organization,
in the system,
who can be a,
a stabilizer that you feel like can be a
stabilizer, your season could just be flushed down the drain
immediately. You know, it's funny, too, all
roads lead back to Colton Ellis. What do the St. Louis
Blues need right now? Any of Colton Ellis
back?
They need one save. It's just one singular
save at any point, please.
All right.
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and listen to our message.
Pete, you're the best.
Congratulations, once again, on the success.
Great to have you aboard as part of the family here.
And we'll catch up soon.
Say hi to Bean for us, okay?
We'll do.
Thank you, guys.
Love you.
There he is.
The great Pete Blackburn.
We kind of talked about Boston
and just danced all around
with everything else.
I don't know.
I think what Pete says is true,
which is that even like someone who's
a bit more, a bit closer
to the team than we are, has no clue
what they're trying to do either.
Like, it's confounding.
It's a confounding team, right?
It is. I got to hustle because I got to get on your M-Tracks show here
in a couple of seconds. But I want you aboard for a couple of segments here
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Zach, what is the Troika, the line that you've put together for us today and curated cleverly?
Yeah, I mean, first of all, I don't know what Wish is laughing at.
You and I put our heads together and thought long and hard about that creative name.
So I don't know what's so funny.
I am laughing because I'm trying to think about whether Uber Eats came to you with a hockey history, SponConnor.
Well, it was supposed to be about stats and then it involved into hockey history.
How quickly in that meeting, Merrick's like, what about hockey history?
I'm like, okay, buddy.
Give the baby his bottle.
Okay, Merrick, fine, real hockey history.
That's very, very clever.
I grabbed three for today back in 1969.
John Bellevaux picked up an assist
and a 2-2 tie against the Blues
for his 1,100 point
in his 1001st NHL game.
In 1983,
four brothers played in the same NHL game
for the first time ever.
That was the Sutter's,
Brian and Darrell for St. Louis,
and Dwayne and Brent for the Islanders.
And then, topical for today in 2008,
Stephen Stamcoe scored his first two goals
of his NHL career
as the lightning beat the Buffalo Sabres
5-2 and to this point
we don't know if he'll ever score again
wow he just misses the Eastern Conference
he just really
to the point about the
the Sutter is one of the funniest things
and I don't think any of them would be offended by this
because anytime I've ever talked to any of them
they've all said the same thing
I remember having a conversation
on someone about the Sutter family making the point
that you know what they may not
have 100 points a year and all that
they were like flashy players smooth skaters
and all that I said
but you'll always get like an honest day's effort out of the Sutter family,
you know, Viking Alberta, farm family, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
They, they work hard every single night, every single shift.
And this person was a long time hockey person turned to me and said,
you dummy, it looks like they're working hard because they can't skate.
Anyone who can't skate looks like they're working.
I remember I said that to Richie once we were working.
He had working together.
We had a really good, really good laugh about that.
But anyhow.
the setters the setters are
quantity over quality
the Hughes brothers are quality
over quantity that's that's the point of
demarcation yeah man but
I'll tell you what I really love
well first of all I think we're all on the same page
either Brian or Brent
were the best of the two
and then you can quibble about who is
who is the best between Brian or Brent
but though those two were the best
out of that family
and there was also a brother
who didn't make the NHL I'd like to be
that guy.
How would you like to be vest pocket rocket rocket?
Not rocket Richard.
They did have a brother call vest pocket rocket.
Never made it to the NHL.
That was his nickname.
That was his nickname,
Vest Pocket Rocket?
Yeah, here, I'll tell you his name.
Here.
Hang on.
Oh, my goodness.
You think I make this shit up?
The rocket, the pocket rocket.
And then your...
Claude Richard.
The back of the...
Dubbed the Vest Pock.
Yeah.
Yeah, Claude.
Claude Richard, vest pocket rocket.
There was rocket.
Vest pocket rocket.
Yeah.
And there was Henri Pocket Rocket.
And then there was vest pocket rocket.
How much smaller in your sort of Russian dolls do you have to get after vest pocket rocket?
By the way, you mentioned.
If I was Claude, if I was Claude, I'd be like, can you guys just call me like Shardie?
We're getting into some really, really embarrassing nickname territory here.
We don't have to go like, you know.
Inside your sock pocket, right?
Like, no, we don't need to do any of that.
You mentioned, you mentioned, oh, I mentioned your, your lobster mug, because I love it.
And so this is the one.
So as you guys can hear, rotate.
I'm still rocking a bit of the head cold.
I should have done this show.
If I, if I drop my voice like this, I sound like Alicobald.
I enjoy working with Sean Connery.
I thought that was, I thought that was your, your nickel and dime.
He has, since he has passed.
but he was one of the great.
I thought there was your Tom McVee impression.
Oh, man.
You talk about a lost art in the NHL.
The players coach and then the disciplinarian.
And Tommy McVee was always a disciplinarian.
So the one that Merrick loves is this name lobster mug that I got in Maine.
But the other one I've been drinking out of, this was a little espresso before the show,
is a skeleton smoking a cigarette.
I love that.
So I'm a double fisting during the ESW.
Underneath all of it.
Greg Wischinski reminds us.
Underneath all of it, we are all the same.
The person who gave me this, this old Seattle totems.
Seattle Totems.
Western Hockey League champions 59, 67, 68 is someone you know who used to go by the name at NHL Ties.
Patrick Manager.
Yeah, gave me this mugs.
This is my daily
It's a cool looking mug
I know and it matches the green
I just thought it looked cool
It was a nice little
Anyway shout out I miss NHL ties
Do you remember who was the
The James Bond of ties
Who was that
Drew Remenda
Oh that's right
Was the king of the towel
A good knot on that tie
I miss most things about old internet
For various and sundry reasons
NHL tie is one of my favorite
I remember how cool it was.
You were with me when we met him at our event in Toronto, right?
And we had dinner on Blur Street.
I'm like, you're NHL ties?
Pat manager, that's awesome.
Was he wearing it?
It wasn't even wearing a tie at that point.
I don't even know if he has a tie.
Although he gave me a tie that day.
Just like a t-shirt and jeans.
Just like hockey-loving dude.
Anyhow.
Do you think that he just looked jealously at others ties while never wearing one himself?
Looked longingly at other ties, I wish.
I wish, I wish.
Oh, I wish I could do a double Windsor like he could.
I'll tell you, man, I don't know how Drew,
because I work with Drew for years.
And he would show me how he would get the dimple.
I could never get the dimple on a tie.
I couldn't, no matter how.
I just assumed that guy rolled out of bed in a suit.
That's he was one of those guys.
It's just so good.
Rold out of bed in a suit.
Yeah, Drew's got his act together.
Okay.
And real tough, too, like double black belt and jujitsu and stuff.
I don't know if you know that about Drew.
Like, if you look at it.
Look at like the announcers.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
Have you never, oh, yeah.
You don't know this about Drew?
He's a secret killer.
Drew Remanda Sharks fans, if you took like every media member in, in the entire NHL and say
who would win a fight, Drew Remenda, every single time would destroy everybody and barely break
a sweat.
So he's an announcer for an NHL team.
Yeah.
That flies all around North America.
Yeah.
But he's also a contract killer.
He's doing hits.
Yeah.
And then he's putting on the headset an hour later, talk about the game.
I'll be right back to solve this crime.
But first, it's the sharks and the kings.
Yeah, man.
True Amanda.
Secret killer, I'm telling you.
It looks great doing it.
He's a hockey's, hockey's James Bond.
All right, you have a good rest of your day.
Rest that cold.
Rest those pipes.
We'll talk to you again on Tuesday.
I know.
There is everybody.
Thanks, pal.
There is the great Greg Rishinsky, stopping by Tuesdays and Thursday.
We are getting so heavy on the show today.
Oh, my God.
And I got to go do Oilers.
All right, what we got left?
We have, oh, I know we got a busy night around the NHL.
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I know we talked about the
goal-tending situation
with the Buffalo Sabres.
What else is spicing you right now?
I guess we really didn't talk
about Jonathan Taves
facing off against Chicago Blackhawks,
which when we woke up today
was going to be our big plan today.
Plans are useless,
but planning is everything.
LBJ.
Yes, I'm ready for whatever on this show.
Basically as soon as I started,
we started the show,
I was like, well, there's an H's 10 seconds in
and it's all gone to shit.
But it's all good.
That's what the people want.
That's what makes the show fun.
I'll do this quick here, Jeff.
The other day I showed you how they had the cool market came up of who gets most shots on goal.
I think that was last Thursday maybe.
I found that came across that one.
So I started digging more.
Tonight, 11 games, you can bet on on Fandual.
Who is the highest scoring team?
So you can bet on every team in there if you want to bet some big underdogs for this one.
But I took the top five, the Devils there, obviously playing against the sharks, the Hurricanes,
playing against the islanders here,
the Winnipeg Jets.
They are playing against,
uh,
sorry,
the Winnipeg Jets playing against Blackhawks.
Yeah,
I just,
I just talked about that like five seconds ago.
It blacked out in my brain as I was saying their name out loud.
Blue Jays on the mind.
I know,
you can't be bothered with hockey right now.
No, no,
it wasn't even that.
I knew that that's who they were playing.
And then as soon as I went to.
say it. It was like that moment of like, wait a minute, are we playing them tonight?
I was like, we just talked about this. They are. And then I started second guessing myself.
Who's starting for the sabers tonight? Who's in net for the swords today? Didn't anybody
we talk? But you can bet on a bunch of different stuff over there. I found this one today.
I thought that was pretty cool. If I had to take a pick of who was going to score the most today,
I'm in on the New Jersey Devils.
I kind of feel like we see just like this fast, fun game here tonight.
I know that they're the favorite of all the teams at Plus 1,000,
but that's the way that I would be looking for tonight.
I'm curious to see what chance we get for Jonathan Taves tonight.
Yeah, it's going to be a warm section here.
Jets fans are some of the best in the NHL.
He's ours now.
that's if we have a line on possible chance he's ours now or he's ours again i don't know
whatever you want to do with it um i got to get to uh olders nation every day here
with thaler and leum
probably best you want to take it off here how would you end this show why don't i let you
end the show i'm going to sit here like you and i want you to land the plane today right
one of the one of the great things about working with you as young broadcasters i get
to put you in situations that are really uncomfortable
for you. Okay, ready? I'm just going to sit here and do dogface, and you're going to land the plane.
Okay, coming up right after the program here over on Oilers Nation, 215 Eastern Time, you can catch Jeff Merrick alongside Tyler and Liam, teeing up what you can find later here on the daily face-off channel.
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Everything that you want to know about his career from his time and juniors all the way through the NHL.
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As we always know when you leave the show here today.
oh shit
what is the thing
tip your
zamponi driver
on the way out
I was trying to
go with the exact
and I'm like
the hole
the buns
the hall
it all started
getting in my head
I thought
was going to be
tip your zamponi driver
on the way out
I was like
I was gonna do
and then I
screwed up
went backwards
in my head
about which one you tip
I screwed up
which one you tip
tip the buns
in the hall
with the zambor
talk to everybody
talk to you to them more
Look, how do you make it through a day, Zach?
I see.
Talk to you tomorrow.
We'll talk to you.
I'll talk to you.
I've spent 16 hours last night every day this week, every day this month.
I can't get out my head, lost all ambitious day-to-day, because you can call it all right.
I went to the dark man.
He tried to give me a little medicine.
I'm like, no, and that's fine.
I'm not against those methods but new
It's me and myself
And how this is going to be fixing my mind
I do on the bracket
I turned on the music
I do on the music
It's an up and up and that you're sometimes losing
Have been on the days that we're wrong
In the dead dark night
