The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Necas Extends and Nashville and Boston Spiralling ft. Greg Wyshynski & Pete Blackburn

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Jeff Marek and Greg Wyshynski return with another jam-packed episode of The Sheet, diving into the biggest storylines across the NHL. The guys open with a spirited debate about the future of league le...adership and Frozen Frenzy coverage before turning their attention to the breaking news of Martin Nečas’ massive extension with the Colorado Avalanche. Then, it’s all about the Nashville Predators — their early-season struggles, Juuse Saros’ workload, Steven Stamkos’ slow start, and whether it’s only a matter of time before Barry Trotz returns behind the bench. That leads perfectly into the Ninja Question of the Day: What’s the next move for the Nashville Predators?From there, Marek and Wyshynski welcome Pete Blackburn (What Chaos, DFO Network) to tackle the Boston Bruins’ woes, Pavel Zacha’s value, and the confusion around the team’s direction. The trio also reflect on Jonathan Toews’ return to Chicago, Montreal and Detroit’s hot starts, and how a sense of “unfinished business” continues to haunt Boston. They wrap with a lighthearted Hockey History segment presented by Uber Eats, including Jean Béliveau’s 1100th point, the Sutter brothers’ legendary game, and a look back at Steven Stamkos’ first career goals.#TheSheet #JeffMarek #GregWyshynski #PeteBlackburn #NashvillePredators #BostonBruins #MontrealCanadiens #DetroitRedWings #JonathanToews #ChicagoBlackhawks #NHL #Hockey #DailyFaceoffSHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Shark Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So Greg Wosinski, it's a day where we will have 11 games on the board tonight. So it's not a frozen frenzy, but I'm trying to come up with a cutesy name for the NHL tonight. It's not quite a frenzy. Is it a like a frozen fervor? Is it a like a frozen agitation? is it do we go like Thursday tumult like how do you want to do this
Starting point is 00:00:34 it's not frenzy like it's not that crazy it's like it's not a fire it's a contained fire like how do we want to how do we want to pitch this one tonight with only a love games like a Thursday tussle like tumult is pretty good that's a good like
Starting point is 00:00:50 yeah thank you five cent vocabulary test word thank you you know it's not enough games where anonymous NHL team executives will bitch to Pierre LeBron about the start times. Our season ticket holders don't appreciate
Starting point is 00:01:09 the 615 start. The first people to complain about a lack of revenue opportunities in the National Hockey League are then the first people to complain whenever anybody, the NHL, the rights holders, anybody tries something.
Starting point is 00:01:27 a little bit different and adventurous and by the way whenever I read something like that from anonymous team executives complaining about like the start times confuse our fans or whatever no one I always think back to the first winter classic and I think to myself how many teams the NHL had to go through before they got to Pittsburgh and Buffalo to host the first winter classic and it was a non insignificant number of them and I always think back to you know
Starting point is 00:01:57 it's a good thing they don't they don't they don't listen to some of these guys sometimes because then the real adventurous stuff the league attempts would be squashed like a bug because a bunch of rich old white guys are complaining about it do you think that is I want to ask you about some frozen frenzy stuff sort of some behind the scenes from someone deep inside ESPN as you are they're documenting all of it but do you think that that's like we're going to go through a process here in, I don't know how long, but probably not long order where there is a change within the NHL and there's, you know, a new commissioner and maybe there's a new Coley Campbell.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Like if it's, let me give an example. If the next Gary Betman is Bill Daly and the next Coley Campbell is Brendan Shanahan, how different do you think things are? I agree. And should be, yes. How different are things? That's an interesting question because I think that people don't recognize how active Gary is behind the scenes when it comes to the presentation of the game, not only in meetings with rights holders, but also in trying to push teams towards increasing access and pushing the game forward and making it more accessible for rights holders and other. other people to bring their cameras into locker rooms and things like that so like i i don't i've never had a conversation with bill about his vision for like media um but i imagine if if steve mayor
Starting point is 00:03:40 is still the guy who's in charge of the big events and and they still have many of the people in the n hl that are there now there won't be too much change there i mean if you're talking about like the game itself the the bigger change would be colin campbell to shanahan uh one because I don't think he's got any relatives in the league at the moment. And two, because I think Shanahan has showed himself to be someone who's very forward-thinking. And in that capacity as sort of the NHL's rules are, if you will, I think that he could get back to the Shanahan that we saw during the canceled season to really revamp the game. It's the hockey guy beside the commissioner, right?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Here is, here is like the hockey guy who's had a number of different positions, not unlike Colin Campbell. We're springing the commissioners here. This is what we should do. And listen, I've said it before. You said it before. Shanahan, to me, seems like an obvious pick. Before we're getting way ahead of ourselves, that's a decision for somewhere. Way down the road.
Starting point is 00:04:44 By the way, Martin Natchez, Elliot Friedman, breaking this one a second ago, has signed. Oh, man, if you're Adrian Kempay right now, juicy, juicy, I might be the only one on the board at July 1st. Avs and Martin ACHUS, eight-year contract, 11.5 on the AAV, front-loaded $60 million in signing bonuses, full no move in the first seven years of his new deal. Wowza. Let's get there in a couple of seconds here. In the meantime, we'll kick out the program by letting you know what's on the program today. The blueprint is, as always, powered by our friends at Fanduel. Download the app today and play your game with Fanduel.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Coming up at the bottom of the hour, we're going to talk about the Boston Bruins. and other NHL issues and probably the Martin NACCH's contract extension that Elliott just broke a couple of seconds ago. Pete Blackburn from what chaos stops by. We'll talk about the national predators. Greg, I have a theory or an idea or maybe just a hot take,
Starting point is 00:05:38 but I'm going to spill it all out here in a couple of seconds. The Toronto Maple Leafs are spiraling, and if anybody was paying attention to the game last night, they may or may not have noticed that a couple of jerseys hit the ice. Meanwhile, Montreal and Detroit on fire. That was once like the greatest, that was once like the best rivalry in the NHL,
Starting point is 00:05:55 but I'm going back to the 50s. Anyhow. Jonathan Tavis faces off against the Chicago Blackhawks, and as we mentioned out the top, what is next in Boston? But before we get to my thought on or a question about the Nashville Predators, because unlike how when I say things,
Starting point is 00:06:12 you don't go away and think about them, I thought a lot about what you said about the Preds on Tuesday. And I want to share that with some of my thoughts off of it in a couple of seconds here. But anything you can share with us, peek behind the curtain we talk about, wrestling style, peek behind the curtain at Frozen Frenzy Night around ESPN.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Wish the floor is yours. I mean, I just wanted to cut, like, listen, there's like a thousand things that I would do to the frenzy to spice it up in the image of Greg Wachinsky. I think the job that we do is tremendous insofar as, you know, dropping into games and, and, you know, focusing on on the moments. but like would hang on would there be a swipe at Mike
Starting point is 00:06:58 would there be a swipe at Mike Milbury if it were up to you would there be anything about Mike Milbury in the broadcast I would like it if I had my druthers yeah I would like it to be a little less NFL red zone
Starting point is 00:07:11 and more sampling the buffet of 32 teams at the same time early in the season a real kind of get to know you situation and maybe more of a focus on things Like, for example, J.T. Miller returning to Vancouver and the inherent drama there,
Starting point is 00:07:28 like I feel like that could be accentuated a bit more. And some of those stories could be accentuated a bit more. But, like, again, that's what I would want out of it. I would also want out of it for it to be more like Monday Nitro in 1990s, where you cut to a fan viewing party of the Frozen Frenzy and check in on. Like, here we are at the mall. it's hard to get hockey fans all on the same page like you know I think it happens for big international events but it rarely happens during the NHL regular season and I think when people
Starting point is 00:08:08 gripe about the frozen frenzy they gripe about split screen stuff which is just whatever I mean you can never know when things are going to happen in a game and I think they gripe about it being where it is in October. But again, like, you know, you'd have this on a Saturday getting absolutely shalacked by college football otherwise. Yeah. But I think it's also kind of like we all want it to be a night where we sit around and go on social media and talk about a shared experience. And I'm not sure if we're there with it yet. But again, I love it. I think it's awesome. And I think that we can get there with it. The way that we used to do it when we did ice surfing, which is similar in spirit,
Starting point is 00:08:53 the way that we would do it is, and we would do it every Tuesday, we would present it as sort of one continuous game, but you're dropping, continuing to drop in on a lot of games, but only the highlights of them. And you give a quick little backstory, like for 10 seconds, that leads into it. Now, I think one of the mistakes that we made doing it is, and again, this is like, sorry producers, producers always want to make it a show and let's bring in guests and, and let's have segments. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:09:19 The way that I would visualize doing this thing, because to your point, this is like we're going up to the buffet and we're going to try things that we've never tried before because we're not going to look at the menu and say, I'm not paying $18 for something I don't know about.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But if it's one price for all, I might put that on the side of my plate. And that's kind of what you're doing here. And the way we used to do it is when something happened, let's say it was the first game. Pittsburgh, Philadelphia. Okay, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia is the first game on Tuesday night. When a goal happened or a fight happened.
Starting point is 00:09:47 happened or something controversial happened. Producers would flag it, say, hang on, 40 seconds, you're going to it. And we would present, we'd throw to it and present it as if, now let's drop in on the Philadelphia fires and the Pittsburgh Penguins. And we'd present it as if it were live without ever putting on live on the screen. But you knew that when we're going to a game, something was going to happen. So essentially, what you're doing is you're taking, you know, in this case, 16 games and making it all one single game,
Starting point is 00:10:18 but only the highlights from all of them. A big goal, here's 30 seconds of a power play, here's a fight, here's a controversial video review, here's a crease crash, something like that. That's how I would envision, again, like if I ran the zoo, I would try to put the premium only on the highlights of the game and try to make it less of a show.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Because let's face it, guys like me would just get in the way. I think that, I think that's what they did for the most part. I mean, I guess if you have a guest on, my hope would be more like the Manning cast where you're kind of like watching the games and watching the highlights with the guest versus kind of taking a sidebar.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But, you know, I think they did a lot of the things you mentioned. I think the challenge is that people are so used to watching Red Zone and on NFL Sunday. And it's a constant stream of check-ins with games where important shit's happening. And the problem with hockey is that there's no Red Zone. unless you're going to just show every power play in its entirety or every overtime. It's hard to, I mean, you might go a good 15 minutes without there being anything happening
Starting point is 00:11:23 in any of these games. And so that becomes kind of the challenge. Okay. So the big news of the day is the Martin Nature's contract extension with the Colorado Avalanche. I honestly thought, Greg, that of all the players that we saw who were, you know, McDavid is off the board and Eichel is off the board and Cali Conner is off the board, the one guy that I thought would get to free agency figuring there was a lot of money that was out there and the people to spend it on was getting fewer and fewer that it would be
Starting point is 00:11:57 Martin Natchez. Is this just an example of Martin Natchez having a number and saying, if you hit this number, I'm here. If you don't hit this number, I'm gone. And I don't think it's a coincidence that this number still comes in less than me go ranting it well that was the whole reason they traded rantman well that's what i'm saying is that they felt they they thought that they could find a way to find a cheaper model that had commiserate production and in 41 games with the colorado avalanche martin hs has 41 points
Starting point is 00:12:35 so they're getting commiserate production and they're paying what uh what what has come out to 2.2 million A.AV less than what they probably would have to pay Brantan. Wasn't he up to like 14 in that neighborhood? It was something in that neighborhood, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like. And with with with this one, they have money for, they have like they're healthy to sign. We sign McCar.
Starting point is 00:13:00 That's, that's a big. That's the whole point. Like they, their argument was it was a financial consideration based on, you know, the work they needed to do at the trade deadline to make the team back. better and then also down the line from a car and then also and you know this may have been said or unsaid they kind of felt like if you put another player with dynamic offensive skills in the wing into that system with mckinon on that power play uh you could get commiserate results and again like like randon was well over a point per game with the avalanche but natius is a point
Starting point is 00:13:41 for game player. So, I mean, if you want to look at the nuts and bolts of why they made the decision they made last year, you have to say, based on this contract, that they made the right call. Okay, park that one for a second. We'll get Blackburn's thoughts on this at the bottom of the hour. I want to, I want to see your, I want to see your reaction to this one. It has been said before in, in WWE circles, the, I remember Adam Copeland told me this, Edge. he said that the vibe from up on high
Starting point is 00:14:11 the way that you make money is not your work rate is not your body the way you make money in wrestling is with your face your visuals the way that you can emote the way that you can connect with people I'm curious to see your face when I say this
Starting point is 00:14:28 it's only a matter of time before Barry Trots is coaching the National Predators again right like that's what that's like does it not feel like I thought about what you were saying to the day a lot and this is the conclusion that I that I came to it's only a matter of time before Barry Trots is coaching again and coaching the Preds what does that mean for his general manager role I don't know Brian Poyle has been there going back to 2018 you know as you know assistant general manager David Poyle's son
Starting point is 00:15:04 strong background with the National Predators. Does it not feel like this is all going to end up with Barry Trots coaching again? Excellent coach. Let's talk about. Let's game this out. Okay. One of the reasons why people didn't believe
Starting point is 00:15:21 that Andrew Brunette was going to be fired before this season is because of how much money they owe him. He has a contract beyond this season. And so you never want to pay a guy not to coach while paying another guy to coach. Correct. Now, if you're already paying a guy to general manage. Correct. And you just have to have to have now.
Starting point is 00:15:49 This is part of our conversation the other day. Yes. Right. So now you're not, now you're not paying two coaches. You're paying one coach not to coach. And your general manager is already being paid. And now he can coach along with managing. generally.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So from that aspect, it's kind of a clever notion. And obviously, like, for those, like, obviously, he's got so much cachet within that organization and within that community, like the idea of how do you get people excited again about a team that is wallowing would be to have the best coach in franchise history, you know, come back behind the bench. And when I say wallowing, I looked inside the numbers. So they're 24th in five on five. scoring and five-on-five expected goals.
Starting point is 00:16:37 They're 28th in five-on-five defense, 22nd in five-on-five expected goals against. The real problem is that when you're not good at even strength, you need to make up for it somewhere. And they are not making up for it on the power play where they are 30th. Right. UC Soros, good.
Starting point is 00:16:56 He's back, baby. 90-5 goalie. He's a 905 goalie right now. That's fine. You're north of 900. Yeah, positive side of expected. Yeah, positive side of expect. expected, expected goals, his goal saved above expected.
Starting point is 00:17:08 That's great. But then there are other players, as we talked about the other day, Stephen Stamcoast, that are not performing. So, like, there's a lot of bad news. Yeah. And then there's a goalie who's basically kind of keeping them relevant at this point in the season. Yeah. And there's also a, what is it, like a $700 renovation on Bridgestone Arena as well.
Starting point is 00:17:29 That the Nashville Predators started to undertake in the, in the summer to, you know, improve the fan experience there. That's not lost on ownership, Bill Haslam, a new owner with the Nashville Predators. I don't think that's lost at all. And a lot of that is going to be predicated on. We're going to polish this thing up real nice, and people are going to come here because we're going to have a good team.
Starting point is 00:17:50 The problem is the National Predators aren't a very good team at all. And the one coach who's been able to make them go, the one guy who's sitting there as a manager, And we documented all the sort of, you know what, you're making a trade here or you're signing as if you're still a coach and not a general manager. That guy's sitting right there. And that's why I want.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And he's a Stanley Cup coach. That's why I wonder, is it only a matter of time before Barry Trots is coaching this team. And do you need to do it soon? Do you need to do it soon before there's not even a point? And you're just in the Gavin McKenna sweepstakes. Well, you're asking, you're missing the bigger. question, which is, does it matter? That's not a playoff roster.
Starting point is 00:18:38 You get it's a playoff roster? I don't think so, but we've seen teams before who aren't part of a playoff rock. Look, one of the things we've been talking about, I know they play in an incredibly difficult division as well. It just got even harder now that Utah is a much improved team. Yeah, exactly. But at St. Louis and Minnesota are falling out of this thing, too. If you're the national predators, you don't throw in the towel this early, you say, you know
Starting point is 00:19:01 what we still do have players here and we have a goaltender that's keeping our head afloat and if you'll recall it wasn't too long ago that even though the national predators were out of the play it was like five or six years ago when national was out of the playoff picture come all-star break u.sssarro said that's it get on my back boys and took him to the playoffs i mean he has done this before he's an older goalie now but to what but to what end to get to the playoffs to get to the playoffs but you just mentioned you just said it yourself like the way the central sets up assuming Utah is for real these are going to have Colorado
Starting point is 00:19:34 Dallas Utah or Winnipeg right in that top three your entry point is probably the second wildcard out of the central and so congratulations Barry Trots you've earned the right to get
Starting point is 00:19:50 your ass handed to you by Colorado or Vegas like what is I want you hang on a second hang on a house I want I want you to think like owners think for a second because rebills have been presented, you know, to Vancouver ownership before. That's a non-starter. Every season, it's got to get into the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Rebuilds have been, you know, presented to owners before. No, thanks. We're not going through that. We want some playoff revenue or a shot at it. Again, like this is a market that's been competitive for a lot of years. This is a market that's starting to see the beginning of a significant, what could be a significant dip here, and it's not as if their prospect pool is, you know, turning heads or lighting the prospect followers on fire here.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I'm just, I'm just wondering, like, do you owe it to your team, your fans, to at least try to salvage this season and is Barry Trots going behind the bench the first way to do that? Or are you just saying, oh, you know what? Call Montreal, see if they want Stamco's. I think there's a chronic problem in sports and in the NHL in particular about team ownership, believing fans are complete morons. And that market is mature enough where they would probably rather see the predators aggressively get younger and get deeper talent-wise with young players than wallowing mediocrity for five years, hoping to be. to get a wild card and two games of playoff revenue. Like, I think the market is mature enough to accept the rebuild
Starting point is 00:21:34 in a way that ownership probably doesn't believe in a payoff. You know how long fan bases accept? Because every fan base talks the same way. Every fan, oh, yeah, we're prepared for a rebuild. We can handle it. Our team needs to do it. We're prepared for a rebuild. You know how long they say that?
Starting point is 00:21:57 One year. Two years. One. You're wrong. One. One year. And then they start to get squirly. And then you start to see it affect your bottom line.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I think we're going to quibble about one year or two years. Fine. One year or two years. That's a big difference because here's a thing. In year one, it's a honeymoon. You have celebrini. You have Badaard. You're all pretty happy about now we've got something to build around.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Then year two, it's like, okay, who are his friends? Oh, here's Will Smith. Here's Nazar. Like, and then year three, it's like, all right, you got the guy. We got his friends. Maybe we can start winning some games now is how it happens. I don't think it's after one year. I think it's after two years.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I think the Chicago and San Jose most recent rebuilds have frightened teams. Like San Jose's still not even close. Like, they're going to challenge for a cup in 60, like four years. There's no guarantee. There's no guarantees. They look good. They absolutely look. good now, but there's still, there's still no guarantees on that. As you look around it,
Starting point is 00:23:03 you know, the, every night's a costume party and everyone's dressed as an empty seat. That terrifies owners. Right. That's what, that's what those, that's what rebuilds are. And owners don't generally, don't have a stomach for it. You know, it's funny. Like, I, San Jose in particular, Chicago is kind of a, a different market because it's an original 16 and what have you. But like, San Jose was so moribund after their run of like cup contention that really the only way to jumpstart this engine was to tank and to start fresh and to bring in a new crew of players.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Like you were never going to be able to do what you're suggesting with Nashville in San Jose because that market, I think, has a, and I'm not trying to insult Nashville fans here. I think the San Jose market has a higher expectation for that franchise. The ceiling is higher. They've come to accept the kind of success that they had for 15 years with Thornton and Marlow there. And if you don't hit that mark, I don't think they show up. And so I think in that market, you had to tear it down to then get Celebrini and Smith and all the guys that are going to be really good there in like two, maybe two, three years. I think in Nashville's case, I just,
Starting point is 00:24:26 just think that they will settle for a rebuild before they'll settle for the mushy middle. Okay, let's use this as a jump-off point before we get to Pete Blackburn here. Time now for the question of the day. Presented by the Ninja Crispy 4-on-1 portable glass air friar. That is a great lobster mug. You always love the mugs. The Ninja Krispy Portable Cooking System, the power of a full-sized air friar in the palm of your hand. So you can cook big or small batches.
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Starting point is 00:25:26 makes it easy. Cleanup is simple. All accessories are dishwasher safe and designed to nest for easy storage. Check out the link in the episode description or go to shark ninja. dot CA. What do we have for a QOD today? Zach Phillips. Yeah, today's QOD is on the theme of the Nashville Predators.
Starting point is 00:25:46 What's the next move for the Predators? So I post it to the chat and people online. Some of the responses we've got so far, Spencer Newton. Nashville should quit while they're behind. They are a bottom five team in the NHL, keep sorrows and trade everyone else. Both Ryans would be worth a lot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:05 We also have a couple other Portuguese walrus said the Preds need to tank so that the Wild have somebody to feel superior to this season. Oh, wow. Oh, geez, shot at Garon Squad. Donnie does dishes just says Preds are slow like the Leafs. Ryan B says, is firing trots an option?
Starting point is 00:26:29 And then the other one here, again, from Portuguese walrus is they're going to stay as they are as long as Barry is GM. Might make a Hail Mary trade or two. I just don't see things changing there. Let me throw an option out. I think is, I'm going to try to will this into existence this year. Okay. Is there a team, Jeff Merrick? that is constantly in need of a playoff scoring hero.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Is there a team that has been maybe only a scant couple of goals away from advancing from the conference final to the Stanley Cup final? The Carolina Hurricanes of the Metropolitan Division, sir, I believe you're referring to. Are you suggesting Jonathan Marsha's so to the Carolina Hurricanes? Oh, my. Find a more perfect. I've watched several seasons of Love is Blind.
Starting point is 00:27:22 There has never been a match on that show more perfect than the one I just made. Jonathan Marcia So, who, by the way, I think completely fits the Carolina aesthetic as well as being a complete pain in the ass. Send him to Carolina as the guy who gets you that one goal you've needed and be the playoff hero. You know, you know, perfect trait. Let me throw a sort of like hockey dad geeky sidebar to this. One of the things, and I don't think, yeah, the more geeky, exactly. the hockey dad, Morgan, geeky part of the conversation here. One of the things that I understand is important to Jonathan Marcia,
Starting point is 00:27:58 so as it is to other players when choosing a market to go to is what's the youth hockey program like? Because a lot of these guys have kids that play and they want them to go to good programs. That's why Nashville, who has actually two really good programs running beside each other, chose Nashville. That was one of the considerations. You know who else has a great youth hockey program? Raleigh.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Junior Cains are, that's an awesome program. That's really done well, which is, and to Nashville's credit, I remember when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, one of the main things that the Preds did was invest in youth hockey and youth hockey programs. And I never put two and two together. I just thought they're helping to create the marketplace. That's actually a lure. that's actually a draw for players because there's a place for their and let's face it their high level kids to play hockey Carolina fits I hate to be the one to tell you this
Starting point is 00:29:02 but one market that certainly is growing in leaps and bounds and the quality of their youth hockey would be Fort Lauderdale if you needed another thing to get mad about on top of the taxes and the beaches right now all of those kids are going to be playing against the alumni of of former Panthers. They'll have that going for them as well. Okay, very good. With that, we'll bring aboard our guest for the program today. He is no stranger, certainly to Daily Faceoff and the Nation Network,
Starting point is 00:29:34 where his program, what chaos, are now card-carrying members of DFO. He is the one and only Pete Blackburn, who is here with his USA hockey hat designed specifically to offend me. Pete, how are you? Right. I'm good. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I was told that I have to make an immediate player comp that me being on this show is
Starting point is 00:29:58 McDavid, dry, sidle, Trent Frederick. And I would be the Trent Frederick. No, no, no. You're a better F1. Come on, knock that off. That's ridiculous, Pete. We do want to get in the best to win a face off. Someone's got to win a face off.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Someone's going to win a board battle. That's you, Pete, Blackburn. Before we get into Boston. The news that A. Martin Naches is off the board, you know, leaving the field open now for Adrian Kempay, should he get to July 1st? Do you have a sort of nickel and dime or maybe, you know, dollar and cent thought on what we just saw out of Colorado today? Yeah, we kind of reacted to it live on the show. And the feeling that we came away with was like they had to do it. They kind of painted themselves into that corner a little bit, but don't love the number. And there was a lot of assumptions on DJ's part. Well, like, well, if he's a 30 to 35,
Starting point is 00:30:48 goal score over the duration of this contract, it's going to be fine with the cap going up and all that. And it's felt the need to remind him and everybody else, like, Martin H.S. has never hit 30 goals. And right now, he's shooting 30%. Is that going to sustain? Like, I know that it works with McKinnon, but I don't know. I don't love the number, but I feel like it's a deal they kind of had to do. Wish, what do you think? I think it's good. Like I said before you hopped on, Pete, like the the gambit was to not pay rantan in in order to use that money on other other players and then the idea was that you could find another winger to produce on this on the wing of mckinon like once it's been established that they have decent chemistry and i think it's been
Starting point is 00:31:33 established then i i think that this signing made a lot of sense um i am with merrick though like he mentioned the idea that you know of all the players that were potential free agents that Natchez made the most sense that he might hit the market just because of past pain-in-the-ass negotiations with Carolina. So it is a little interesting to see him commit both in money and years to Colorado in the way that he has. But I don't know, kudos to Christopher for figuring this thing out and at the end of the day getting the guy on a contract that's less than what they would have paid rent and then being able to use that cap space for other things. But at the same time, too, from Martin Natchez's point of view, too, this is a situation where he's going to be on a team now that's competitive for a long time. You can go and chase every last nickel and rock a big contract. But if your team is miserable and you're not winning, you're going to be miserable.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You're going to be locked into a long-term contract and almost impossible to move. And the example there is Jonathan Huberto, who didn't have to resign with Calgary. But when someone presents you with that kind of money, how do you say no? not that Hubert O is a sort of cautionary tale, but I do wonder how much players look at and say like, you know what, I could chase an extra million dollars somewhere else, but is it worth it if I'm miserable where I go?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Unless there's going to be like some Stanley Cup contending team that has all this cap space available to sign me, in which case, yeah, sure, sign me up for that. But generally, it's not going to be a team that's as close to the Stanley Cup as a Colorado avalanche. Pete, does that make sense to you? Yeah, I don't think there's, any, like, question about whether or not this is a good fit for, for NACIS and, like,
Starting point is 00:33:14 whether or not this is where he should take the deal. I think the bigger question to Greg's point earlier is, like, well, we finally have an answer is to, like, does he want to be anywhere? Like, I wasn't even sure that he was going to play in the NHL next year based off of the way that we hear and complain about every situation that he's in in the way that he negotiates. I do. By the way, I've mentioned this to Greg before. And this place might be a sign of me aging, but you know what I really love more?
Starting point is 00:33:39 and more and more and more and more every single day that I'm alive. Grumpy people and grumpy hockey players. Grumpy people amuse me and I love them more and more the older I get. I want the hockey player that gets to the rink. And the first thing they do before saying hello to anybody is complain about the coffee. Sign me up for that guy. I want to be around grumpy people for the rest of my life. Give me a team.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And there it is, folks. There it is, folks. The only indication that Jeff Merrick is aging. No, I got the salt and pepper beard, too. That's a dead giveaway. I mean, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying, but like you're playing on Nathan McKinnon's wing. Like, you've got to pick your spots about what you complain about.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And, like, Leon Drysiddle is perfect because Leon Drysiddle has, like, has this inner grumpiness to him. But he never is a dick. He is a dick when the moment calls for him to be a dick. And he's so good at being a dick. So, like, Leon Dryslaid, I think is the. gold standard of being an A-Hole hockey player. This is its own show, or at least its own segment. But I want to detour into another statement that Greg and I were talking about before he came
Starting point is 00:34:51 on. And again, I'll preface it. We're going to get to the Bruins, I swear. I wonder, Pete Blackburn, if eventually here, perhaps sooner than later, I don't know. Barry Trots ends up coaching Nashville again. That that's where that's where this is. headed. Pick that up or put it down. What do you think? Trots coaching Nashville again. I mean, it would be real sick of hours if he saw that team and was like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:35:21 I should get even closer to them and have my fingerprints even more all over them. That would be a real choice on his part. And like, you mentioned like you get, the older you get, the more you appreciate grumpy people. The older I get, the more I appreciate people, doing less work and like just enjoying their life as much as they possibly can. I don't think Trots is enjoying this, Pete. I don't think Barry is enjoying any part of this. If I saw Barry Trots take over the reins and be like, what are you doing? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:55 As a devil's fan, it strikes me. It's just it happens sometimes. Here comes Lou. Here comes Lou behind the bench. Only I can fix this. I will be the iron fist behind the bench to scare them into quality and success. It would be a tremendous story. I just wonder where all this right now is headed for Nashville.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I mean, everybody is underperforming outside of UC Soros. We have no idea of this. You know, the size of the cliff that Stephen's Damcoast has fallen off of is immense. And so where is it go? Normally you talk about, okay, they're going to dust the coach because it's hard to make trades. But if you do get let go of Andrew Burnett, I don't think that Bill Haslam, the owner, has an appetite to pay. Andrew Burnett not to coach and to bring in another coach
Starting point is 00:36:40 when they've already got a coach who's won a Stanley Cup who's making all these deals that have got the National Predators into the place that they're at now. I mean, when you put it like that, I'm kind of into this idea because it's more of a punishment
Starting point is 00:36:55 than Barry Trots like rewarding himself. I like the idea of it being a punishment. I'll say that. Okay. All right. Wish you want to hop on some Bruins talk here? Yeah, so Pete, I suggested that we get at Bruins, someone who knows the Bruins a little bit on today because like, we've been talking
Starting point is 00:37:13 a lot about Pavel Zaka and how like Pavel Zaka is a bit of a canary and a coal mine about the direction of the team. Everybody outside the Bruins is like, of course you trade Pavlzaka. It makes total sense. You guys need a lot of shit on your roster. And then the Bruins like, actually, he's the kind of guy you keep around for what we're building. And then the rest of us are like, what are you building? What do you see as the plan in Boston? Can you explain to me, like, what you see that team trying to accomplish in the next, like, two to three years? No, I can't.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I mean, it's a bad answer. You pick the wrong guy. I can't tell you what I see this team trying to accomplish because I got to be, I think that's been, that's been the big, like, the big issue that I feel like we all have around here with the Bruins is like, ownership's telling us one thing, or not ownership, front office is telling us one thing. Like, we're committed to contending, to retooling. This is not a rebuild.
Starting point is 00:38:05 we know that we can contend in the next like two years or so. That seems to be the messaging that we're getting. And then you look at the roster that they have right now and you say, well, where are the players coming from that are going to help you contend in the next few years? Because the free agency class doesn't look amazing. Your prospect pool doesn't look amazing. There's not a ton of help on the way. So like if you, if the commitment is to competing in the next few years, yeah, you're
Starting point is 00:38:35 going to want to hang on to guys like Pavel Zaka because he's one of the few guys that you can recognize when you look at their daily faceoff lineup every day. So that's my answer. But if you're trying to be the best that you can at asset management and position yourself to actually revamp this roster, you'd be wise to trade Pavel Zaka this season while he still has max value. First of all, I tried to tell Zach to book Cam nearly. Like I knew Cam would be the and I could explain all this shit. And we couldn't get him. He wouldn't pick up his phone.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And then we had to bring on Pete who's like, I don't know what's going on. If there's anybody who wants to talk about the Bruins less in their current state than me, it probably can nearly. Maybe Don Sweeney. You might want to throw him into the mix as well. They might even go to Charlie or Jeremy Jacobs. I'm fascinated with,
Starting point is 00:39:27 and it's always tough to isolate the sliding door moment for every team. Like the moment where things began. to unravel that you only understand with like historical context and it's years and years later there's two things that I there's there's two moments in the recent history of the Boston Bruins that I that I point to and go okay that was a sliding door moment one of them was of course a Brad Marchand breakaway on Sergei Bobrovsky and the Bobrovsky right pad safe that's the one that we all look at but there's another one and it's in the 2022 playoffs it's Boston and Carolina and Andre Svetnikov, as Hampus Linnholm is coming out from around the net,
Starting point is 00:40:08 Svichnikov absolutely destroys him. I don't know that he's ever recovered from that hit myself, but the Bruins end up losing that series. Bruce Cassidy gets fired. And if Svichikov doesn't catch Lindholm there, maybe the Boston Bruins win that series, Bruce Cassidy never gets fired and, end, and, and, and, and maybe Pete Dabor is still the head coach of the Vegas School of the Knights at that point. don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Which one of you were more to? Maybe it would have found some way to sewer his goaltender. He wouldn't have that job more. Perhaps. Do either of those sort of scream at you, that, that, you know, was the sliding door moment for the Boston Bruins is Svechnikov hit on Linholm? Linholm's back, by the way, tonight, or the Brad Marsham breakaway on Bobrovsky. I mean, I think the one that easily jumps to the front of mind is them just losing to Florida.
Starting point is 00:41:00 and, you know, after the record-breaking season. So, like, yeah, I guess, like, if you're going to kind of dissect it, the Marshan one makes a lot more sense to me than the Lindholm one, mainly because, like, Lindholm, before he got hurt last year, and maybe this is a bigger point to what you're trying to say, is, like, Lindholm is so important to this team and that has become so incredibly apparent over the past couple of years. because even this year
Starting point is 00:41:30 when he fell out of the lineup after the first couple of games, they fell apart defensively and that was considered to be the strength of this team or one of the strengths of this team and they've just been a disaster defensively. So I do think that blue line really, really needs Hampus Lindholm
Starting point is 00:41:47 to be what it is thought to be. I think unfinished business is a poisoning element in the National Hockey League. If the Bruins beat the Panthers in that series and then they go on to win the cup after the season that they had, I mean, it's the end of Infinity War. It's Thanos hanging up the armor being like, my work here is done. They could do all, you know, there's retirements, there's Marchand leading, all that stuff can happen with a sense of satisfaction that we did it again. And we got another banner up there and this group accomplished what they said to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I think if Edmonton had won either of the last two Stanley Cup finals, McDavid's a free agent this summer. I just think the sense of unfinished business, the sense of what might have been is something that that kind of poisons the mind of players and executives in this league. And I'm sure it's played into the sense of, let's just try to dig our heels in
Starting point is 00:42:44 and not rebuild in Boston. But at what point, then the conversation becomes like, at what point is there too much unfinished business to where there shouldn't be business at all? And like that's where a lot of Bruins fans are with this front office is like they're the almost the entire definition and uh sort of vibe around this front office is that they do business they never finish it they've gotten close so many
Starting point is 00:43:09 times and like the body of work is not unpalatable it's not bad all the time they were handed the keys to a very nice car and it just has never really reached the destination and now things look really bad and i don't know how much face there is in this group being the one to turn it around, especially when the messaging is kind of confusing. Do you think the math on their future would be different if they didn't sign Pastronach to that extension? Like if they didn't want to squander having a player like that on the roster, like if he wasn't there, would they be rebuilding right now? I think that there would definitely be more clarity in that they need to rebuild. Like I think that when you have David Posternak,
Starting point is 00:43:53 Charlie McAvoy and Jeremy Swayman at three pillars on the front, back, and in net, then you look at the team and you say, well, there is a path here to rebuilding something, or there is a path here to the bones of this team being okay. There's just nothing else really around them that makes you feel good about the direction, and there's not a lot coming to make you feel good about the direction. So that's where we are. It's a confusing spot to be in. It's going to lead to some very difficult decisions possibly in the next couple of years
Starting point is 00:44:29 where you might have to move off those guys because there's just really no path forward without wasting prime years. I'm glad you mentioned Jeremy Swamen. One of the things that Wish and I were talking about on Tuesday was this idea. I've always sort of looked at goaltenders a very specific way. When two goaltenders have similar save percentages like we see with Swainman and Corpus Sallow. And listen, they could be, instead of being 886 and 870, they could be 921 and 919. And I would say the same thing. It's less about the goaltenders and it's more about something else, probably the defense.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Do you look at this tandem and Corpusallo goes tonight? Do you look at Corpusallo and Swamen, Swamen at 886 and Corpusallo at 870? Do you say, wow, these guys are really underperforming? Or is the fact that their safe percentages are almost identical, tell you some. something else about the Bruins. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say that either one of them has been particularly good, but I would say that neither one of them has been particularly the problem either, like not even close.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So when you watch the Bruins and sort of what they've been recently, especially during that skid, they can't defend around the net whatsoever. And it's been a disaster and it's been extremely unpalatable, again, because this was supposed to be one of the strengths of this team. Like when you talk about a path forward, for this team being competitive this year,
Starting point is 00:45:51 they've scored more than anybody is expected them to out of the gate. What's been the problem is that the defense is just completely failing and breaking down in front of the net, and it's leading to a ton of goals against, especially in spots where it immediately kills momentum that has been generated by the forward group up front. I want to ask you about your show for a second, a proud member of the Nation Network, from what I understand.
Starting point is 00:46:25 True. Zamponi Dog. How does it make you feel when you see... Yeah, indeed. How does it make you feel when you see a player wear a bright pink, what chaos hat? I wish it was an NHL player, but I'll take an NFL player.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It makes me feel great. I mean, the fact that that happened just rocked our worlds this week to see a Buffalo Bills player They're heading into the stadium on Sunday wearing What Chaos at. Unbelievable stuff. Very important to our producer is from Buffalo. So this is the interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I don't know. Did anyone tell you that Tage Thompson was wearing one at the Player Media Tour? No. Tate Thompson was wearing. No one told you this. Nobody told me this. I just assumed that they were becoming ubiquitous within the NHL community when I saw him wearing one. I mean, that's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Thank you for telling me. I wish that I had better friends directly around me that would have relayed this to me. This is great news. Thank you. I mean, I think, like, he's very tall. So I'm pretty sure. No one saw it.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I saw him wear one. Yeah. The underbrim looked a lot like your what chaos lids. I think that it was one of those. Okay, so now let's talk about what chaos fan tase Thompson. Actually, I do want to ask you one thing about the Buffalo Sabres. I don't know how big I want to make this moment, but it does feel kind of like,
Starting point is 00:47:49 perhaps the beginning of the ending of something. Alex Lyon starts tonight for the Buffalo Sabres. He's been really good. He's been really good. He's playing good. Ukepeka Lukanin is, just by way of contract, is supposed to be their number one guy. Right now they're rocking three goaltenders, Colton Ellis as well.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Devin Levi and Alexander Georgiev, banging it out in Rochester right now. all the goaltenders, they've got a goalie magnet in the Buffalo Sabres organization. All the goleys go there right now. How big a story is this for you guys that Alex Lyon has the spot over Uca Pecha-Pecanin? It kind of feels like this could be, it's not the end. I can't imagine Luken is thrilled, but do we say it's the beginning of the end? Does it feel that way for Luken and Buffalo?
Starting point is 00:48:44 I mean, I'd say no, because just because like the goal-tending is always. so fickle and like it can change on the drop of a hat like I mean think to where we were a year ago we were talking about like the best sabers might be locked into one of the best goalie tammes in the league for years to come with
Starting point is 00:49:02 Ukopekalukin and Devin Levi and now we're talking about Alex Lyon being the one in Buffalo so things change very quickly and if you're all I'll say about this situation is that UPL's reaction to how
Starting point is 00:49:18 this all develops, we'll say a lot about UPL because if you're the Buffalo Sabres, if you're any of the guys in the room in Buffalo, you have to understand the spot that the franchise is in and the pressure that is on that team to finally arrive. I don't care if it's a guy off the street playing net for the Buffalo Sabers. If he's giving them the best chance to win hockey games right now and snap that drought, nobody in the room should have a single problem with the best goaltender getting the net. I'm pretty sure the guy off the street was Eric Kammery, if memory serves. Eric was Alex Lai, was there a changing of the guard when Alex Lyon got the Panthers into
Starting point is 00:50:03 the playoffs that one year? I mean, there wasn't. It's just what he does. He gets good. He gets hot. He got him there, but then they, they went to a half. And then he's not. That save on Marshawn that we just talked about 10 minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah, I mean, like history has shown us. There is precedent. There is precedent for Alex Lyon, essentially spearheading and being the engine for a modern-day dynasty. So is it, I think I'm going to reposition your question, Merrick, to are we looking at the beginning of a modern-day dynasty with the Buffalo Sabres? So instead of the Buffalo Sabres sending players to Florida to win the Stanley Cup, it's going to be the opposite now. The Florida Panthers are reciprocating by sending back the Reinhards and the mentors to go and win Stanley Cups and Rodriguez's to go win Stanley Cups in Buffalo. Well, okay, that's, I'm glad we got to this spot here. I just, this was a podcast from 15 years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I feel like Merrick's like, I don't know, Dina Macchi, what do you think, Vezna? Like, these guys are back up always. Like, they just go on hot streaks and they're good for like a month and a half. And then we don't think of them anymore because they just aren't. Did you not see what he did with the phantoms? I mean, Calder Cup is tough, man. Will you have someone like Nidemaki? You hold him sacred like a newborn.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Greg, you of all people. Once again, proud father should know this. I am a very proud. I want to say this, though. Like, I think a backup like Ninnamecki or Alex Lyon or there are some others that we've seen in this league are actually some of the most valuable guys you can have. like Jake Allen, for example, like a guy that can kind of like push your starter and make him feel uneasy about his struggles.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And, you know, I think having a quality backup like that, not only to bail you out for a good, you know, six weeks, but also to like at least challenge the other guy, I think is an incredible asset to have in this league. I mean, we've gone from talking about the NHL as like a two-goly league recently to now I think like, We're talking about a three goalie league at this point because you need a 1A, you need maybe a 1B, and then you need a stabilizer. Like if you don't have that stabilizer in the third spot, your season can go off the rails so quickly.
Starting point is 00:52:24 The problem is that that guy doesn't get the play. And usually that guy's going to be a young guy and look at, you know, we think back to the COVID taxi squad and how many goaltenders and Michael DiPietro's front of that list did that almost totally crush. I get it. It's tough. No. It's, it, it,
Starting point is 00:52:41 it's, that, that's a, I know what you're trying, I know what you're saying, I get it. I just don't know how, I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:47 listen, the, the history of teams trying to make the three, three headed monster work is, is long and it
Starting point is 00:52:52 usually ends up in the exact same place. And at least one, sometimes two, get major booboo face about it. I'm not saying, I'm not saying that you have to keep three goalies on the roster.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I'm saying that, like, if you don't have a third goalie in the organization, in the system, who can be a, a stabilizer that you feel like can be a stabilizer, your season could just be flushed down the drain
Starting point is 00:53:15 immediately. You know, it's funny, too, all roads lead back to Colton Ellis. What do the St. Louis Blues need right now? Any of Colton Ellis back? They need one save. It's just one singular save at any point, please. All right. America's creating commercials set to Sarah
Starting point is 00:53:31 McLaughlin music for Nico Dawes. Won't anyone think of Nico Dawes? Just we got a five cents a day. could save your third string gold hender. Will you please for one second, put down what you're doing and listen to our message. Pete, you're the best.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Congratulations, once again, on the success. Great to have you aboard as part of the family here. And we'll catch up soon. Say hi to Bean for us, okay? We'll do. Thank you, guys. Love you. There he is.
Starting point is 00:53:59 The great Pete Blackburn. We kind of talked about Boston and just danced all around with everything else. I don't know. I think what Pete says is true, which is that even like someone who's a bit more, a bit closer
Starting point is 00:54:12 to the team than we are, has no clue what they're trying to do either. Like, it's confounding. It's a confounding team, right? It is. I got to hustle because I got to get on your M-Tracks show here in a couple of seconds. But I want you aboard for a couple of segments here because I know that you are always hungry for hockey history. Hungry for hockey history is a presentation of Uber Eats.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Uber Eats is enabling fans to maximize their fandom all season long with exclusive game day deals on the app. Game Day Eats to paper plates and napkins if you're hosting. So all of the ingredients you need to make your favorite game day dip before, during, and after the game, Uber Eats is assisting every fan's hockey experience all season long. Zach, what is the Troika, the line that you've put together for us today and curated cleverly? Yeah, I mean, first of all, I don't know what Wish is laughing at. You and I put our heads together and thought long and hard about that creative name. So I don't know what's so funny.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I am laughing because I'm trying to think about whether Uber Eats came to you with a hockey history, SponConnor. Well, it was supposed to be about stats and then it involved into hockey history. How quickly in that meeting, Merrick's like, what about hockey history? I'm like, okay, buddy. Give the baby his bottle. Okay, Merrick, fine, real hockey history. That's very, very clever. I grabbed three for today back in 1969.
Starting point is 00:55:36 John Bellevaux picked up an assist and a 2-2 tie against the Blues for his 1,100 point in his 1001st NHL game. In 1983, four brothers played in the same NHL game for the first time ever. That was the Sutter's,
Starting point is 00:55:51 Brian and Darrell for St. Louis, and Dwayne and Brent for the Islanders. And then, topical for today in 2008, Stephen Stamcoe scored his first two goals of his NHL career as the lightning beat the Buffalo Sabres 5-2 and to this point we don't know if he'll ever score again
Starting point is 00:56:09 wow he just misses the Eastern Conference he just really to the point about the the Sutter is one of the funniest things and I don't think any of them would be offended by this because anytime I've ever talked to any of them they've all said the same thing I remember having a conversation
Starting point is 00:56:26 on someone about the Sutter family making the point that you know what they may not have 100 points a year and all that they were like flashy players smooth skaters and all that I said but you'll always get like an honest day's effort out of the Sutter family, you know, Viking Alberta, farm family, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. They, they work hard every single night, every single shift.
Starting point is 00:56:47 And this person was a long time hockey person turned to me and said, you dummy, it looks like they're working hard because they can't skate. Anyone who can't skate looks like they're working. I remember I said that to Richie once we were working. He had working together. We had a really good, really good laugh about that. But anyhow. the setters the setters are
Starting point is 00:57:06 quantity over quality the Hughes brothers are quality over quantity that's that's the point of demarcation yeah man but I'll tell you what I really love well first of all I think we're all on the same page either Brian or Brent were the best of the two
Starting point is 00:57:22 and then you can quibble about who is who is the best between Brian or Brent but though those two were the best out of that family and there was also a brother who didn't make the NHL I'd like to be that guy. How would you like to be vest pocket rocket rocket?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Not rocket Richard. They did have a brother call vest pocket rocket. Never made it to the NHL. That was his nickname. That was his nickname, Vest Pocket Rocket? Yeah, here, I'll tell you his name. Here.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Hang on. Oh, my goodness. You think I make this shit up? The rocket, the pocket rocket. And then your... Claude Richard. The back of the... Dubbed the Vest Pock.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah. Yeah, Claude. Claude Richard, vest pocket rocket. There was rocket. Vest pocket rocket. Yeah. And there was Henri Pocket Rocket. And then there was vest pocket rocket.
Starting point is 00:58:13 How much smaller in your sort of Russian dolls do you have to get after vest pocket rocket? By the way, you mentioned. If I was Claude, if I was Claude, I'd be like, can you guys just call me like Shardie? We're getting into some really, really embarrassing nickname territory here. We don't have to go like, you know. Inside your sock pocket, right? Like, no, we don't need to do any of that. You mentioned, you mentioned, oh, I mentioned your, your lobster mug, because I love it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And so this is the one. So as you guys can hear, rotate. I'm still rocking a bit of the head cold. I should have done this show. If I, if I drop my voice like this, I sound like Alicobald. I enjoy working with Sean Connery. I thought that was, I thought that was your, your nickel and dime. He has, since he has passed.
Starting point is 00:59:03 but he was one of the great. I thought there was your Tom McVee impression. Oh, man. You talk about a lost art in the NHL. The players coach and then the disciplinarian. And Tommy McVee was always a disciplinarian. So the one that Merrick loves is this name lobster mug that I got in Maine. But the other one I've been drinking out of, this was a little espresso before the show,
Starting point is 00:59:28 is a skeleton smoking a cigarette. I love that. So I'm a double fisting during the ESW. Underneath all of it. Greg Wischinski reminds us. Underneath all of it, we are all the same. The person who gave me this, this old Seattle totems. Seattle Totems.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Western Hockey League champions 59, 67, 68 is someone you know who used to go by the name at NHL Ties. Patrick Manager. Yeah, gave me this mugs. This is my daily It's a cool looking mug I know and it matches the green I just thought it looked cool It was a nice little
Starting point is 01:00:07 Anyway shout out I miss NHL ties Do you remember who was the The James Bond of ties Who was that Drew Remenda Oh that's right Was the king of the towel A good knot on that tie
Starting point is 01:00:22 I miss most things about old internet For various and sundry reasons NHL tie is one of my favorite I remember how cool it was. You were with me when we met him at our event in Toronto, right? And we had dinner on Blur Street. I'm like, you're NHL ties? Pat manager, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Was he wearing it? It wasn't even wearing a tie at that point. I don't even know if he has a tie. Although he gave me a tie that day. Just like a t-shirt and jeans. Just like hockey-loving dude. Anyhow. Do you think that he just looked jealously at others ties while never wearing one himself?
Starting point is 01:00:58 Looked longingly at other ties, I wish. I wish, I wish. Oh, I wish I could do a double Windsor like he could. I'll tell you, man, I don't know how Drew, because I work with Drew for years. And he would show me how he would get the dimple. I could never get the dimple on a tie. I couldn't, no matter how.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I just assumed that guy rolled out of bed in a suit. That's he was one of those guys. It's just so good. Rold out of bed in a suit. Yeah, Drew's got his act together. Okay. And real tough, too, like double black belt and jujitsu and stuff. I don't know if you know that about Drew.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Like, if you look at it. Look at like the announcers. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Have you never, oh, yeah. You don't know this about Drew? He's a secret killer. Drew Remanda Sharks fans, if you took like every media member in, in the entire NHL and say
Starting point is 01:01:44 who would win a fight, Drew Remenda, every single time would destroy everybody and barely break a sweat. So he's an announcer for an NHL team. Yeah. That flies all around North America. Yeah. But he's also a contract killer. He's doing hits.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah. And then he's putting on the headset an hour later, talk about the game. I'll be right back to solve this crime. But first, it's the sharks and the kings. Yeah, man. True Amanda. Secret killer, I'm telling you. It looks great doing it.
Starting point is 01:02:22 He's a hockey's, hockey's James Bond. All right, you have a good rest of your day. Rest that cold. Rest those pipes. We'll talk to you again on Tuesday. I know. There is everybody. Thanks, pal.
Starting point is 01:02:31 There is the great Greg Rishinsky, stopping by Tuesdays and Thursday. We are getting so heavy on the show today. Oh, my God. And I got to go do Oilers. All right, what we got left? We have, oh, I know we got a busy night around the NHL. The sheet is powered by Fanduel. Play your game with Fanduel.
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Starting point is 01:03:27 games tonight. I know we talked about the goal-tending situation with the Buffalo Sabres. What else is spicing you right now? I guess we really didn't talk about Jonathan Taves facing off against Chicago Blackhawks,
Starting point is 01:03:37 which when we woke up today was going to be our big plan today. Plans are useless, but planning is everything. LBJ. Yes, I'm ready for whatever on this show. Basically as soon as I started, we started the show,
Starting point is 01:03:49 I was like, well, there's an H's 10 seconds in and it's all gone to shit. But it's all good. That's what the people want. That's what makes the show fun. I'll do this quick here, Jeff. The other day I showed you how they had the cool market came up of who gets most shots on goal. I think that was last Thursday maybe.
Starting point is 01:04:07 I found that came across that one. So I started digging more. Tonight, 11 games, you can bet on on Fandual. Who is the highest scoring team? So you can bet on every team in there if you want to bet some big underdogs for this one. But I took the top five, the Devils there, obviously playing against the sharks, the Hurricanes, playing against the islanders here, the Winnipeg Jets.
Starting point is 01:04:30 They are playing against, uh, sorry, the Winnipeg Jets playing against Blackhawks. Yeah, I just, I just talked about that like five seconds ago. It blacked out in my brain as I was saying their name out loud.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Blue Jays on the mind. I know, you can't be bothered with hockey right now. No, no, it wasn't even that. I knew that that's who they were playing. And then as soon as I went to. say it. It was like that moment of like, wait a minute, are we playing them tonight?
Starting point is 01:05:01 I was like, we just talked about this. They are. And then I started second guessing myself. Who's starting for the sabers tonight? Who's in net for the swords today? Didn't anybody we talk? But you can bet on a bunch of different stuff over there. I found this one today. I thought that was pretty cool. If I had to take a pick of who was going to score the most today, I'm in on the New Jersey Devils. I kind of feel like we see just like this fast, fun game here tonight. I know that they're the favorite of all the teams at Plus 1,000, but that's the way that I would be looking for tonight.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I'm curious to see what chance we get for Jonathan Taves tonight. Yeah, it's going to be a warm section here. Jets fans are some of the best in the NHL. He's ours now. that's if we have a line on possible chance he's ours now or he's ours again i don't know whatever you want to do with it um i got to get to uh olders nation every day here with thaler and leum probably best you want to take it off here how would you end this show why don't i let you
Starting point is 01:06:11 end the show i'm going to sit here like you and i want you to land the plane today right one of the one of the great things about working with you as young broadcasters i get to put you in situations that are really uncomfortable for you. Okay, ready? I'm just going to sit here and do dogface, and you're going to land the plane. Okay, coming up right after the program here over on Oilers Nation, 215 Eastern Time, you can catch Jeff Merrick alongside Tyler and Liam, teeing up what you can find later here on the daily face-off channel. Adam Henrique, on the road, the full episode dropping, if you want to watch it in video form. It's right here Saturday morning coming out on podcasting platforms. You can catch Jeff and Adam.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Everything that you want to know about his career from his time and juniors all the way through the NHL. That'll be coming up here. Later today, 11 games across the NHL. Thanks to everyone who tuned in here today. The best thing you can do to support this show, hit the like button, subscribe here to the channel, find us across all your audio platforms. As we always know when you leave the show here today. oh shit what is the thing
Starting point is 01:07:22 tip your zamponi driver on the way out I was trying to go with the exact and I'm like the hole the buns
Starting point is 01:07:29 the hall it all started getting in my head I thought was going to be tip your zamponi driver on the way out I was like
Starting point is 01:07:36 I was gonna do and then I screwed up went backwards in my head about which one you tip I screwed up which one you tip
Starting point is 01:07:43 tip the buns in the hall with the zambor talk to everybody talk to you to them more Look, how do you make it through a day, Zach? I see. Talk to you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:07:54 We'll talk to you. I'll talk to you. I've spent 16 hours last night every day this week, every day this month. I can't get out my head, lost all ambitious day-to-day, because you can call it all right. I went to the dark man. He tried to give me a little medicine. I'm like, no, and that's fine. I'm not against those methods but new
Starting point is 01:08:22 It's me and myself And how this is going to be fixing my mind I do on the bracket I turned on the music I do on the music It's an up and up and that you're sometimes losing Have been on the days that we're wrong In the dead dark night

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