The Sheet with Jeff Marek - NHL Opening Night and McDavid’s New Deal ft. Tyson Barrie & Greg Wyshynski

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Connor McDavid’s shocking 2-year, $12.5M extension continues to send shockwaves through the NHL — and The Sheet is here to break it all down. Jeff Marek and Greg Wyshynski dissect what McDavid’s... “discount deal” means for Edmonton’s Cup window, Leon Draisaitl’s future, and the 2028 free agent class that could reshape hockey.They’re also joined by recently retired NHL defenseman Tyson Barrie, who reflects on playing with superstars like McDavid, Auston Matthews, and Nathan MacKinnon, what separates those generational talents, and his new ventures off the ice — including his “Chilly Ones” beer brand and stepping into broadcasting with the Vancouver Canucks. Barrie also weighs in on Connor’s decision, locker-room reactions to team-friendly contracts, and shares stories about leadership, rivalries, and Gabriel Landeskog’s inspiring comeback.Plus: a deep dive into the Battle of Florida chaos between the Panthers and Lightning, playoff predictions, and how this all ties into opening night across the NHL#TheSheet #NHL #ConnorMcDavid #Oilers #LoganCooley #Coyotes #TysonBarrie #NHLOpeningNight #DailyFaceoffShout out to our sponsors!👍🏼 FanDuel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼 Simply Spiked: https://www.simplyspiked.ca/en-CA👍🏼 Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼 Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, true or false, Greg Wischinski, you gave daily face off the deep, deep discount of an identical contract to that Connor McDavid signed as well to join me here twice a week. True or false, a meager $12.5 million per appearance. It is absolutely true. I felt it was important for Daily Faceoff to surround me with better talent than I currently have to work with. Hear that, Arda? Hear that, Arda? Listen, you probably drove this thing into the ground yesterday as far as discussing it,
Starting point is 00:00:49 but my take is that I'm still flabbergasted by the AV. Like, I never thought in a million years he wouldn't take at least a dollar more than leons when you go to puckpedia uh you see connor's name at the top of the of the food chain there but like it totally makes sense within the context of why he's staying at ebenton which is to give them a window to win and the best way to give them a window to win is to not take 14.5 million dollars against the cap to give them the discount and to allow them to go out and get the pieces that you think they need to get to win uh he is his own state tax advantage i want to get into that with you here coming up in a in a couple of seconds uh but first
Starting point is 00:01:28 want to get to our friends at Fanduel. And this is the blueprint of the show today, powered by Fanduel. Make every moment more with North America's number one sports book, and that is Fandul. Yes, plenty more on the Connor McDavid. The two-year contract, $25 million is the AAV. We'll talk to Tyson Barry about Connor McDavid. We'll talk to Tyson Barry about actually playing with a number of superstars. He's played with Connor McDavid.
Starting point is 00:01:53 He's played with Austin Matthews. He's played with Nathan McKinnon. We'll talk to Tyson Barry about that and his post-playing career. The Battle of FLA from the weekend, that story kind of simmered down after the economic David contract, but we'll get into it today. We'll talk about suspensions. It is opening night tonight if you're watching us live or if you're watching slash listening before 5 o'clock Eastern when the Florida Panthers face off against the Chicago Blackhawks.
Starting point is 00:02:18 But back here with Greg Wischinski, when you first, like when I first saw the AAV, like everybody else, I was stunned. but then like many said he's putting his money or lack thereof where his mouth is this is what he's always talked about and i spoke with someone earlier today who's very he's very close to connor mac david and i was trying to figure like we all have our takes and our takeaways from from what this all meant right what's that it was it was his dog it was his dog who's quite insightful and has been on long walks with connor and on long walks with your dog you share your most intimate secrets and this is is what Connor McDavid's dog told me. No, he said, I was like, look, like, we're all trying to figure, like, what's the lesson here? What should we all learn about Connor McDavid?
Starting point is 00:03:05 When you negotiate and what you settle for is a sort of peek into who you are. And this person said to me, the lesson that you guys aren't talking about, and the lesson that I wish you guys would talk about more about Connor McDavid with his contract is this. When Connor McDavid makes up his mind about something, you cannot change his mind. I'm sure there are people that were around him that said, you can't. can't do this. Like, Connor, this is like, you look at what the salary cap is right now. You look how valuable you are.
Starting point is 00:03:32 You're the best player in the game, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You just look what Caprizov just signed for. It's folly for you to come in at 12.5 per season. This person said, don't ever doubt when Connor McDavid makes his mind up. You will not change it. There's someone in Vegas who always hates it when I say that Vegas has a ruthless pursuit of the Stanley Cup. I mean, it is flattery.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I'm actually flattering. I'm actually flattering to Vegas, and they really don't like it when I say that, but I mean it as a compliment. To me, this is Connor McDavid's ruthless pursuit of the Stanley Cup. I am going to be your state tax advantage with my contract. You can sign the Marchands and the Bennett's and the Eckblad for discount deals. That's fine. I will be your Alberta state tax advantage. Now that we've all had 24 hours to digest it, any new revelations for you from this.
Starting point is 00:04:26 thing or he knows in the summer of 2028 he will make more than anyone has ever made in the history of the national hockey league to make up for lost time on this contract look he did evinton a solid and you have to love him for that he gave them a window to win he extended their contention window for two more seasons beyond this one he kept his word to the city of evanson like i wrote on esPN dot com yesterday winners and losers one of the big winners is is connor's legacy he is not going be somebody who leaves without having given everything he had to this organization after those dumb lottery balls bounced their way and took McDavid out of all the big North American markets he could have played in he gave them everything he gave him you know over a dozen
Starting point is 00:05:10 years of his life by the end of this contract he gave them a discount on the on the cap like he's given him everything they can so if he leaves in 2028 it will be um having done all he could to try to bring a champion that's one thing the other thing though here's my struggle with Connor McDavid as the steely unwavering guy who knows what he wants and will only do what it took two years now two years was a concept that was under discussion for many many months in this negotiation but for a long time it was three years and then it became two years and I do think that there were people around Connor that said take two two years. And Connor acquiesced and said, I'll take two years. Now, again, that's not to say that he's anybody's puppet. It is to say that ultimately that kind of contract may not necessarily have been part of the overall discussion, the majority of this thing, but then kind of became where it was headed. And the other thing I'll say about this, too, Merrick, is this. I'm happy
Starting point is 00:06:20 for the Oilers, and I'm happy that Stan Bowman gets some extra cache to work with, the basis of this negotiation is Connor McDavid doing a full forensic study of the Edmonton Oilers championship window. And, you know, Bowman went to his house and Jeff Jackson went to his house. There's been a full-on sell job by the Edmonton Oilers to convince McDavid to not stay but stay for a while ultimately he settled on i'll give you two years like i feel bad for dry sidle he's there for eight connor just said but i think the window is too i think see this this to me speaks and again like judd maldaver is the agent here from from waserman the and if and if you look at how moldaver and most recently we just saw this happen with luke evangelista with the national
Starting point is 00:07:14 Predators, where I believe initially Nashville wanted a longer-term deal and Moldaver Wasserman and Evangelista wanted something shorter and they ended up doing a two-year deal of $3 million A.A.V. This one to me has sort of Wasserman philosophy written all over it. And if you're Conda McDavid, you look at this and say, okay, so next year it's supposed to go to 104. We all believe it's going to go closer to 107. Then it's going to go to 113. We all believe it's going to go even more than that. And then after that part, it's question marks. So why lock yourself in? Why lock yourself in when you don't know? Let's have some fun. So LeBron James just did a commercial today that got me thinking about his time with the Miami Heat because it was a parody of the
Starting point is 00:08:00 decision. It ended up being a commercial for Hennessy. Good on you, LeBron. Secure that bag. But it got me thinking about the Miami Heat. And if we're talking about Jed Moldaver, we're talking about Wasserman, then we have to talk about the fact that Connor McDavid's two-year extension makes him a free agent in 2028. Yep. That is when Austin Matthews is a free agent, a Moldaver client. That is also, Merrick, when Zach Werenski is a free agent, another Moldaver client. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm not saying it's headed here. I'm just saying, could you imagine what it would do for the National Hockey League if some enterprising agent took three of the most valuable players in the league and packaged them together to say I will bring this it's like in Star Trek 2 and they shot the genesis device at a dead planet and revitalized the thing through science like he could take three the three three of the most impactful players in the in the NHL and put them all on one team and say meet this number and you could have like wouldn't that be amazing it's not going to happen but first yeah first it would be amazing it would be amazing it would be amazing it would be amazing. We've seen this happen exactly once in the history of the NHL, and that is Timo Salani and Paul Correa. Like, that's it. That was the only time, like, we're going as a pair. You're taking us as a pair.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Like, that's the way that it's going to go. We're Parisian-suit or a pair or no? Would that just happen to be they both wanted to be in Minnesota? You know what? Maybe I've got to go back and look and think about that. Maybe they did good. Maybe that's another good one. Maybe they did go as a pair.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I worked out nice. And that, yeah, well, now Minnesota is out of Capel. and they just turned around and spent $17 million on Carol Caprizov. So maybe I should mitigate that. Yeah, there was a Minnesota example as well with Parisian Souter. But first of all, you'd have to get all three players on the same page about wanting to go to the same spot and have all three families agree to go to that same spot. It is more difficult. I think we're all wondering when players are going to start behaving, NHL players are going to start behaving more like NBA.
Starting point is 00:10:09 players. Like, hey, I got a new best friend now and we want to go play on the same team, so you got to take us as a package. Like, that's just the way that it happens. And you wonder if it's ever going to get that way in hockey. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. I'm with you. I don't think it does. I think it's just a coincidence. I don't want to make, wanted to make his life in two years very complicated by doing three very sophisticated NHL deals with sophisticated NHL front offices. I think it's just the way that this thing worked out. I don't, I just think it's a coincidence. Where I'll stop you though is, I don't think it's the players that would do this.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I think it's like, it's like when you put a movie together and CAA says, I have three stars that I could attach this movie and get it made. Like, I think if it ever happened in the NHL, it would be someone like Wasserman that would that would fuel the fire of packaging a few players together and putting them on the same team. I don't know. Listen, in a non-I'm just thinking of Pugpedia with hearts in my eyes. In a non-salary-cap universe, amazing, right?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Great idea. Nobody has to take a discount. No, well, if you throw in Werensky, we'll shave this money off this player. No, no. In a non-salary-cap universe, you can do that. Even though the salary cap is going through the moon right now in the next couple of years, I don't think you can get that done in the NHL. Put them all in Boston.
Starting point is 00:11:29 They get a piece of the team and jobs with a tree planting company. no you know my idea is meme coins just like here's a meme coin just dump in 10 million dollars nobody has to know and then we all go to market and we all get rid that's the way things are done following u.s politics and that's the way things get done that's the way things are done so again like i think i think Connor's right that it probably is a good i mean i always thought he would take three because that would have bought him up to the free agent year for nuchin hopkins and bouchard like that seemed like a reasonable um window of opportunity for connor and the oilers but I mean, two's probably about right.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And that should give Bowman and them enough time to figure out how to have this team break through. Let me jump. Let me jump. Do you think they break through? Do you think they win a couple of the next three years of Connor? I do. I think right away the salary cap, the playoff salary cap helps. You know, their kryptonite has been the Florida Panthers.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Now, I think we're all starting to come back from Niagara Falls. on the Florida Panthers, as I've been saying, now with the salary cap in the playoffs and the Barkoff injury and however much you're going to get out of Matthew Kachuk this season. I do, but I don't think, like, the West is getting better here. Like, look how good Vegas is. To me, Vegas and Dallas isn't going anywhere. I don't think Colorado is going anywhere either. I am curious to see what, I think we all are, what Bowman can do.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Like, put it this way, if you're Stan Bowman and you're not calling Matthew Darsh every day, what are you doing for for siroken correct yeah every single just say like look i'm going to call you every single day about this player until you relent see yeah it's it's called the the devils and queen hugh's plan just keep calling until they relent um i don't even know if they're calling to be honest to you i don't want to i want to put words in fits and uh and tommy fits his mouth uh the so i i kind of i mean i have i have i have been to winning the pacific division but i don't have them going to play for the cup again. And the reason why is I do think that, well, one, you know, a lot of things broke their way.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They squeezed a lot out of that goaltending more than anyone thought they could to get to the cup final twice. It didn't help them in the cup final. I mean, when you're in an elimination game and you don't know who your starter is, probably not the best goaltending you could bring to a championship round. But I kind of see it as a transition year for them. Like if you look at their their cap situation, they've got a bunch of forwards, Enrique and others that are coming off. They've got Ekholm's a free agent, both of the goalies of free agents.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I think they're going to free up even more space after this season to really retool for that first Connor contract year. Good enough to be a great regular season team, but I don't quite think they're up to snuff compared to Dallas, Colorado, and Vegas in these playoffs right now. Health is the wild card in all of it. I still think they have a top one of the top three, maybe top four blue lines in the NHL. And again, like, I'm waiting to see if Connor McDavid can get his Yari Curry. And if you want to just take this conversation one step further, we're heading into, now here we're at, we're October 7th. Okay, like the puck is dropping, if you're watching us live or listening to us live, the puck is dropping later tonight.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And I want to talk about next July first. But here's what I want to talk about next July 1st and the cascading effect of the Condo McDavid deal. And we all expect Jack Eichel ends up doing something with the Vegas Golden Knights and he remains there. Ditto for Kyle O'Connor. What do you call it, the move your shit phenomenon? Guys don't do it. Your stuff is there. I'm not as vulgar as you.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Oh, okay. Sorry. I apologize. I took an I don't give an F pill a while ago. So here's how I look at it. Like if you're Adrian Kempe, like we're heading into an offseason next year where everybody's going to have cap space, but there's not going to be any players to sign. It's going to be one of the most unique off seasons that we've seen. where everyone's got money where are all the players I've got money to spend where's all the product so and Kempe is a fascinating one to me great speed great hands one of the most underrated etc etc etc like if you're Adrian Kempe are you not thinking I could really ring the bell here and might be able to ring it with Edmonton sure why not I mean like you said there's going to be a scarcity of of assets already we're we saw in this previous summer, like, how few there were.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And as teams have shown, they're going to use this extra cap space to not be forced into bad decisions to lock up their own guys. So, yeah, the ones who do escape into the unrestricted free agent market are going to do pretty well for themselves. I don't know. I left yesterday feeling satisfied with the Connor deal. Like I felt, I felt two years means that someone like me who wants the content of the greatest free agent availability in the history of the United States.
Starting point is 00:16:32 The NHL probably gets that. It gives the Oilers fans something to be happy about. They won't have to hear about this until September 2027. I think it was good. And again, the only people I feel bad for are people that are going to be in negotiations with their teams, like Cal McCarre, for example, who are now going to have to hear from their general manager. Look upon what Connor McDavid did for the Oilers. Don't you want to do that for this potential championship team? I mean, if they did it with Sid for years, and now there's an even more concrete.
Starting point is 00:17:02 example with Connor and the two-year deal. And that's just going to get annoying. We shall see. I think this one stands alone. I think this is completely unique in the salary cap marketplace right now. I think that's why everybody was stunned by it. I'm sure teams would love to capture this as an example that all players should use. Like, once was on yesterday and Andrew Raycroft was on.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And the first thing I said to him was like, you know, I know he's just passed, but, you know, somewhere Bob Goodenow. I was rolling over in his grave saying Connor McDavid signed for $12.5 million times two. I was trying to explain this to people because I've gotten a lot. I wrote that the NHLPA was a loser in my piece and a lot of people were like, but it's a 50-50 split of revenue. But the point is that the agents make a percentage of the contracts. They'll hire the contracts go for the tippy top guys and the mid-tier guys. The better it's going to be for the agents that are basically running the NHLPA. So they don't care about the rank and file.
Starting point is 00:18:00 They care about guys like Connor McDavid not taking discounts. And so that's where you are with something like that. I'm interested to hear what Tyson Barry has to say about that. Actually, I wanted to ask him about that very thing. But yeah, it's, I was happy that it got done and then I immediately started to think about dry siddle. Do you think he kind of feels like a dipshit taking eight years? No, that's what he wanted. How things played out with Connor?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Again, like one of the things, look, one of the things that. that we talked about last year that some people just embarrassed themselves over was this idea that everybody is marrying Connor McDavid's business decision to Leon Dreisel's business decision. Oh, do you mean in the sense that it wasn't
Starting point is 00:18:44 like that? And it was separates. Leon wanted one thing, Connor wanted another. They both wanted to stay with the Edmonds and Oilers, as it turns out, specifically Connor, but not to marry, which is the thing that we were saying last year the whole year, don't think for a second just because Leon signed
Starting point is 00:19:03 that Connor is going to sign or it's going to be the same type of business and as it turned out it wasn't that's why I don't think Leon looks at this and says oh man dude I thought we had a deal there was no deal there's no agreement that hey we're both going to max here I don't mean like that I mean I reported back in January that the two things weren't related I'll take the victory on that one
Starting point is 00:19:26 and now but when I go back to when I go back to dry siddle signing though like I don't think he thought Connor was going to be there for the duration of his contract but probably he probably thought he'd be there longer than the first three years of that contract don't you I don't I don't know first of all those two are very close and I'm sure they've had the I want to stay for another eight years and Connor probably said yeah I'm not sure if I'm going to I'm going to look at eight years here and if I am it's going to be in blocks of threes and twos What do you think
Starting point is 00:19:59 our ceiling is this year, by the way? Edmondson? Edmonton can win the Stanley Cup. Like, here's the thing. Again, this doesn't happen because hockey's not perfect. Nothing in life is perfect. Oilers rattle off three Stanley Cups.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Oilers do what the Florida Panthers couldn't do. Routed off three. If you want, like, honestly, if you want to go like, let's go full on prediction time, like shoot for the home run, the Oilers,
Starting point is 00:20:28 rattled off three Stanley Cups on the back of Connor McDavid's contract extension of $25 million over two years. Wow. That is the most optimistic view of the situation that anyone has made. Yes, I know, and that's what I'm saying. Totally, it is pie
Starting point is 00:20:44 in the sky, it is long shot, it is close your eyes and swing as hard as you can, and if the back connects with the ball, it's a tape measure home run, it's Cecil Fielder hitting it out of the stadium in Detroit. That's what it is. But, in a perfect world for Oilers fans right now, they're out of all three.
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Starting point is 00:23:16 By the way, shout out to my friends in Blue Jays Nation. As a Mets fan, we are all Blue Jays at this point. Secondly, you mentioned something before that I want to go back to, which is you talked about the Florida Panthers in Niagara Falls, and I am assuming, I'm trying to do Merrick speak here. You were talking about the, are you talking about a honeymoon? Because I thought you were talking about the barrel going over the falls and people panicking about it.
Starting point is 00:23:41 But tell me, tell me what that meant. No, that's just the honeymoon capital. Have we all come back from the honeymoon with the Florida Panthers? I mean, we were talking about the Florida Panthers. And I was as guilty as in as everybody else, too, because we all went along for the ride. And we all loved the way they played, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, the comparisons to the dynasty islanders. And it was like, okay, but now there's the reality of there is still a state tax advantage, obviously.
Starting point is 00:24:04 You think that confirmed by B. Marshand Esquire. But at the same time, with the salary cap now in the postseason and the reality of how they play and how long they have played, are we now going to start coming back from Niagara Falls on the Florida Panthers, i.e. is the honeymoon over? Okay, first of all, congratulations of being the first guy to use Niagara Falls as a metaphor and actually just mean coitus and not things going over the falls. Again, that's why I love doing the show with you because like, who else is doing this? And then the second thing is like, I got like, I agree with you. I think this is the hardest invitation Paul Maurice is going to have to earn to the postseason party. Not only because the Atlantic is better, but because you, you know, can't replace Kachuk. You can't replace Barkoff.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And, you know, you can maybe live without Kachuk until December or January, assuming that for Hagee Bennett and Marchand can be a real good top line, the guy I'm concerned about, the guy that I think is going to make or break the season is Reinhardt. Reinhardt with Barkoff is a dominant offensive player. Reinhardt without Barkoff is not a dominant offensive player, even though his defensive metric are still quite good. Can he find that same level of effectiveness with Lundell and Lister Ryan? And if we don't know, then how long –
Starting point is 00:25:24 I mean, even when Kachuk comes back, you still might have to worry about what you get at a Ryan Hart for the season. I have them in the playoffs. I have them as a wild card, except my top three in the Atlantic are the lightning, the senators, and the and the Maple Leafs. I know the senators, me and you have been tussling about that for weeks. But I, I'm, it would be a shame if the three Pete bid ended with them missing the playoffs, but I don't think that's off the table at this point, considering how devastating the injuries are to two of their. most important players. It will be fascinating. By the way, now that we're talking about the Panthers,
Starting point is 00:25:59 Tyson Barry coming up at the bottom of the hour, so I want to make sure we squeak in at least a little bit of conversation about something I thought was going to dominate the show and all the hockey talk airwaves yesterday. But we all barely pissed a drop on it because of the Connor McDavid contract. And that is, what the hell did we just see on Saturday? Between the Florida Panthers and the Tampa Bay Lightning. And I got a
Starting point is 00:26:25 I got a note from someone saying Why don't they just stop this game? Like it's a preseason game It's meaningless Why don't they just stop this game And the process for stopping That would have to be officials Go to hockey operations
Starting point is 00:26:39 Probably go to the commissioner And then that all gets agreed upon To actually stop the game Because it was a blowout There's no one on the bench Guys are getting hurt We got four gamers We got two gamers
Starting point is 00:26:51 Why don't they just stop this game? Here's the cover. Hello? Yes, this is Gary. Stop the game because of fighting between two of our best teams. Now the people have paid for the scrimmage. Okay, they've paid to watch the scrimmage. No, we cannot stop the game.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Again, like, what do we talk about? This is awesome for hockey. It's the amuse-bush to the Battle of Florida that will be happening several times in the regular season. The only bummer about this. rivalry right now, which is easily the second best rivalry in hockey behind USA, Canada, is that it's not teams that have like the robust fan base of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, for example. I think that's the, maybe the hesitation in them leaning into this too hard is that they know ultimately there's a finite number of fans that follow the lightning and the
Starting point is 00:27:43 Panthers. And despite the prestige of both of those teams having won the cup, it's not the automatic sell that some other teams would be if they were in this rivalry and had this little of hatred, which sucks, because not only is it two teams that hate each other, geographic rivals, it's also like a collection of star players on teams that could easily win the cup again this year. But that's, I mean, I wonder if ultimately that's why they don't lean too hard into it is because, I mean, how many casuals are going to tune in for a battle of Florida game? So further to that point then, because I think that's the one thing that I take away from what you just said is these are two teams that could win the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:28:20 These are two of the top teams in the NHL. That's what makes this whole thing so spicy. Yeah, that's awesome. Like these are, and I think back to the Anaheim Los Angeles Kings games. Remember when Anaheim, L.A., like if you're in the East, you could not go to bed if Anaheim was playing L.A. You had to watch those games. Prop up your eyeballs, clockwork, orange style. You have to watch all of this.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And the thing that's good about Tampa and Florida is it's not as if it's full of a bunch of like super heavyweight headline, Matthew Olivier's and Nick Dolores. And Matt Rempie, it's not that at all. But it's guys that have that mentality of when something happens on the ice, we all, we all fight. You'll like this one. We all fight like where the third monkey on the arc when it starts raining. That's how we all fights. It doesn't matter who you are.
Starting point is 00:29:15 We are the third monkey on the arc when we went, I think it might be raining. that's how much of both these teams go. How much of that comes down from Cooper and Maurice do you think? I don't think in a bounty way, I mean in a mentality way. I think a lot of coaches wish their teams played like that. That's a good point. I think Lindy Ruff wished his team played like that when Nason ran Thompson last year. But instead, they all looked for change on the ice and they all cut their skate laces.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I wish I would imagine that every coach wishes their team played like that or had that type of mentality. Something happens to one of our guys. It doesn't matter who you are, where you are in the lineup, you go after them. Tampa does it, Florida does it. I don't know that it's specific to the coaches. There's something about those teams. I just want to see.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I want the Battle of Florida to be like Ohio State, Michigan. Like, I'm a, I'm a semi-okay college football fan. Like, I'll watch it if it's on. I'll watch Maryland when they play. But I'm always tuning in for you, Ohio State, Michigan. And I wish the Battle of Florida was like that. I wish that it was the thing that had cachet with the casual sports fan, where if it is Battle of Florida night, you're going to tune in because you don't know what you're going to see.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I think the last time we had a rivalry like this, honestly, with this level of animosity between two really, really good teams, is probably Washington and Pittsburgh at the height of that rivalry with Ovi and Cid. Yeah. What do you think? Because those games could be nasty too. Those games can be...
Starting point is 00:30:52 I keep going back to Anaheim L.A. Anaheim L.A., and then for that one playoff series, Anaheim in Nashville, which was just, I think it was 2017. That one was vicious. Okay. I want to get to our guest,
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Starting point is 00:31:55 Tyson, first of all, thanks so much for coming aboard today. And listen, man, like heartfelt, congratulations on a really good career. When you look back and it's going to change because context, context, how do you feel about it? How do you feel about everything? Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for the congrats. I feel good about everything. First of all, I'd like to apologize for the lighting in my office here.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I've been told it's horrible. That's okay. I'm going to get one of those little lights. But, yeah, I feel grateful. I feel, you know, pretty fulfilled in the career that I had. And, you know, I think if I would have, you know, told myself at 16 when I started my junior hockey career that, you know, I'd be retiring at 34 with 800 plus games and, you know, a group of, you know, 30 to 30 of my best friends I'd meet and a beautiful family and everything.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I think I'd be pretty, pretty shocked. So I'm super, super proud and grateful for the career that I was able to put together. You started in 2011, 2012, and I wanted to ask you in your time in the league, how, did the position that you played change? Yeah. I don't know if my position ever changed in the way that I played. I always tried to be kind of offensive and jump in the rush and join the play and run the power play, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I think the game changed a little bit. And I think, you know, when I came in, there was still, you know, McGratton and Bordolo and guys going toe-to-to-off opening draws. Great names. It was a great names, Tyson. Great names. Yeah, those were, you know, those were intimidating times. But, you know, I think, I don't know if the game changed,
Starting point is 00:33:54 but guys, you know, in my position just got, you know, I was kind of a, not the start of it, but, you know, followed in some offensive de men's footsteps. And then, you know, you look at the Quinn Hughes, Kail McCars, Rensky's. These guys have just kind of taken that. position to another level and improved on what I was trying to do. And they've since left me far in the rear view. So I knew it was time to hang them up. But yeah, I think, I don't know if,
Starting point is 00:34:23 you know, I came in and tried to join the rush right away when I was, you know, 20 years old. So I started my career like that. And, you know, I tried to finish it the same way. I wanted to ask you about McDavid and what we saw, like there's a lot of questions that that come out of it. But before we get there, speaking to Connor McDavid, you played on teams that had like three of the greats, full stop. You played on a team that had Nathan McKinnon, played on a team that had Austin Matthews, and played on a team that had Connor McDavid. Do you see any similarities between the three of those players? Yeah, yeah, all very different people, different personalities, you know, but the same thing that I think drove all three of those guys is just to be the best
Starting point is 00:35:07 player on the planet every night. So the similarities was they did everything they could on and off the ice to give themselves the chance and put themselves in a position to be the best player. And that's, you know, diet, training, everything, night before games, all that stuff. So just, you know, three guys, probably, you know, three of the best players, or, you know, the best player in the world on any given night, any three of them are capable. It's just the dedication. You know, there's other great players I've played with,
Starting point is 00:35:41 but those three kind of really set themselves apart as far as, you know, preparation. Okay, Connor McDavid. So he'll be known for two numbers. One, 97, and the other, 12.5. What did you think when you saw the number yesterday? I mean, we were all stunned. Like, you played with him, you know them? Like, same room.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Like, did that surprise? you? No, not really. You know, I think you kind of look, I know people have probably talked about, you know, how Sid kind of, you know, did his money throughout his career and, you know, I think with what Leon did and signing the eight-year deal, I think, you know, I'm just stepping into the broadcast world, but somebody asked me and I said, I think he's going to do a two-year deal. And so I'm one and oh. Congratulations. Retire now because predictions are a fool's game. trust me yeah I think he he wanted to give that organization it's a great organization they've you know they treat the guys really well there and give his best pal there Leon who's obviously
Starting point is 00:36:47 signed up for a long time a couple more kicks at the can and money for Connor's um I you know I don't think at the top of his priority list I think he's aware of you know obviously the more he signs for the more of the guys down the road will sign for and stuff. But I think that, you know, he was robbed of a few really good kicks at the can. Obviously, they went to the cup final, but just with COVID and the way the cap sat flat, you know, there was a few years where they really should have been able to add and bring in guys and they weren't able to. So I think him keeping in that at that 12-5 just gives them a leg up to continue to add guys. And, you know, that's a team now for the next three years that's going to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:27 I think they got to get one. So I was not super surprised. And, you know, it's a two-year deal. And I think there's going to be 32 teams lining up to give Debo eight times 25, you know, on his next deal. So he's not, I don't think he's super concerned. And with Capriza, he's already pushed that cap. He's already pushed a playbook way ahead. So, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Well, Jeff and I were curious that, like, when you would talk to teams sometimes, when you were kind of in your prime, how often did the cap come up in so far as like, hey, why don't you take a little less and help us out build a winner around you, Tyson? Like, was that the hard sell you'd get from GMs? No, unfortunately, I was kind of, you know, I had the big deal in Colorado, and that was, you know, I wasn't their highest paid guy. We had better players than me, so it just seemed like a fair number. And then the only other time I hit free agency was kind of a down year with the Leafs,
Starting point is 00:38:24 and then it was COVID. So, you know, GM, there was no money in the market. So I wasn't really getting sold on much. It was kind of, hey, there's no teams with money, so you've got to come here. So I signed with Edmonton on a smaller deal, on a one-year deal just because there was no money in the market. And obviously I wanted to be in Edmonton where I knew I could, you know, they didn't really have a guy to run that power play. So, yeah, I was never, I was always a good player, but I was never the guy who was really moving the needle on the cap one way. or the other.
Starting point is 00:38:57 When you look at this Oilers team now, I want to move off Oilers, but another question about Edmonton, since they are sort of the stars of the day, a lot has been made now of, okay, so Connor McDavid left money on the table. Normally, when a player signs a new contract and they come back to the room, it's a celebration because they just rang the bell, okay? I guess you saw the Jackson-Lacombe video in Anaheim that comes back into the room, it's a $9 million deal and all the guys are going, hey, that's, that's awesome. But when you sign for his deep a discount, as Connie McDavid just did, like, what happens
Starting point is 00:39:33 when he goes back to the room? Like, take us into like the mind of a player here. Is it like, hey, man, thanks. You did one for the team. Or is it like, man, like, where's the $19 million contract here? Like, how do players feel about this? I would feel two ways. I think that the obvious answer is.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I don't think there's anybody on that team that's played with him that doesn't understand how badly he wants to win so I think that this is just another facet of that it's something he can control that will help them win so I don't think there's going to be any surprises in that room I think guys will just be super grateful that he's there for at least another three years
Starting point is 00:40:15 and then the second part is probably he's underpaid at this point so you got to make sure he's still picking up tabs and hosting parties. You know, we can't, we can't be losing our highest-paid guy. I guess Leon's got us shoulder that now. Go ahead, Greg. You are, as you mentioned, you have moved over to the dark side.
Starting point is 00:40:36 You remember the media now. How dare you? It's going to be Vancouver Canucks. Well, what was sort of your 200-foot view of Vancouver last season? Obviously, the Peterson and J.T. Miller situation played out the way it did. And now that you've gotten inside a little bit, what have you learned about the Canucks this season. Yeah, I mean, I've only done the one preseason game so far. So we're about to get started up here. But I think it's pretty impressive what they were able to do last year, even
Starting point is 00:41:03 with, you know, you kind of alluded to the PDJT situation. I think that pulled a lot of attention from guys and was hard to kind of work through and they had some injuries. And I think it was pretty impressive how close, you know, it was. So I, man, I, I, I, I'm optimistic. I think you have, you know, start of every year, you've, you've got teams that all are shooting for the playoffs, and I don't see any reason the Canucks aren't going to be right in the mix again. And, you know, I think anytime you have Quinn Hughes on your back end, that's a heck of a start. I've got great goaltending, too. I love Demko, and I love Lanky's. Lanky's an unbelievable goaltender. I got the chance to play with him in Nashville, and I just
Starting point is 00:41:49 really impressive. You know, interesting with the Vancouver Canucks as well, and you don't want to ever read too much into preseason. You know that better than Greg and I do here. And I don't think that it's a complication, but everybody that you had question marks about with the Vancouver Canucks going into preseason, like they all look good. Like, Coots look good. Mancini looked good. Lechromackie looked good. Pedersen looked good.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Philip Heidel looked good. So I don't know if you're like, if you're like me and you're more cynical and you say, okay, everybody looks good. This whole thing is going to fail because everyone just looked too good in preseason for this to actually be too. But like all the guys that we had question marks about, they all look good. No, that's great. I've been into camps and I've played a bad preseason. I probably didn't start great.
Starting point is 00:42:42 You want to feel good. You want to look good. You want to have a good preseason. It's just good for the confidence. it's good to get your feel and the fact that all those guys look good and are feeling good is fantastic. You'd rather that than
Starting point is 00:42:55 it sucks to start the season with your GM or your coach breathing down your neck because they weren't happy with your preseason. That is mentally a beating. You don't. You're like, you haven't even got started yet. Leave me alone. So the fact
Starting point is 00:43:09 that they're probably not dealing with that is great. I have them in the playoffs. They need like eight things to go right this season, and including Heidel's health and obviously Dempco's health and Quinn Hughes not wearing a jersey that has double horns on it by February. But like if all that stuff happens, like I see no reason why they can't be a playoff team in the West. I agree with you, man.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I think people are sleeping on how good they could be. Yeah. Let's talk beer. Oh, yeah, for sure. You're like, you know, a hundred point guys aren't easy to come by. You launched your own beer. Yeah. What's that about?
Starting point is 00:43:46 that was something that I put it in my notes years ago when we were I was in Edmonton and we were we just called beers chili ones it's like a cold one but it's a chilly one and it became a bit of a thing we'd all just be yelling chilly ones at each other and it's kind of dumb but it was funny so I decided that I would start a beer company with all of my good hockey pals and I think there's 18 of us involved And it was a fun thing. And it's honestly, it's been really fun for me to kind of pursue. And it's an interesting, the beverage space is interesting.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And if you do it properly, you can make some noise. So that's what we're trying to do. And we've got a great group of people behind it. And it's something, you know, obviously in retirement. I want to have a bit of a purpose. And, you know, it's giving me something to kind of lean into. is the is the target market initially hockey people hockey fans like like where where where do you go with chilly ones yeah it's a good question actually um so obviously we're we're silly to think that we wouldn't start in hockey
Starting point is 00:44:59 just because of kind of the people who are behind it but um you know we don't see it as a as a total it's not just a hockey beer it's a bit of a lifestyle beer i i played hockey but i don't you know i don't identify as a hockey player i've got a lot of other interests and like to live my life pretty casually. So that doesn't exactly go with the hockey rhetoric. So I think we're going to obviously build out from hockey, but we're, you know, we've got a non-alcoholic beer, a lower strength beer. So kind of that healthy lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, we've got plans to just kind of grow. We're big into music. We've got a lot of ambassadors in the music space. So it's, yeah, it's kind of built for everybody. Have you seen, because I've always sort of used this as a gauge. Like when you see a certain beer come out of a hockey bag after a beer league game, you know that beer has kind of arrived. Have you seen your beer come out of a hockey bag yet after a game?
Starting point is 00:45:59 Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's cool. I've got to see people drinking them in the wild. Her son has a swim instructor and she showed up with a four pack of chilly ones. And she didn't even know I was the founder. And that was, I was like, oh, no way. Went to the liquor store. And like, she's like, oh, yeah, I love the branding and the lower strength.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And I was like, oh, sick. The lead singer for the lumineers, by the way, is wearing your hat these days. Oh, brilliant. Yeah, yeah. We've got him, we got him decked out. So he's spreading the chill. I want to go back to something you said, Tyson. You mentioned that you didn't identify as a hockey player that you have interests that go beyond hockey.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I think we see you guys and we think these are all lifer freaks that have been playing since they were eight. And I was wondering in a typical dressing room, like how many Tyson Berries are there like that that don't necessarily have this sport consume everything about them? Are you in the majority or the minority about that? I would say, maybe somewhere in between. I think there's probably a 50-50. I think there's a lot of guys, you know, as you guys know, the NHL is a very hard league to make. So by happenstance to make it to the biggest stage, you kind of have to let it consume you a little bit. And it certainly has at points in my life.
Starting point is 00:47:25 But I think there's, you know, and then you've got guys like Connor and Nate and Austin who are, I always said it didn't matter if I worked out that hard, it wouldn't put me at the number one spot in the world. So, yeah, I think there's definitely a minority of guys who are less, you know, hockey obsessed and just happen to be really good at it. Yeah. Maybe more so there is guys who are much more focused on it. I know some guys don't watch a single NHL game throughout the year and other guys catch everyone they can. So there's a bit of a spectrum. But there's so many personalities and interests and different walks of life in those dressing rooms.
Starting point is 00:48:04 it's really fun to be a part of. Okay, last one for me, Tyson. I'm not sure if you saw it, but I'm sure you saw the clips and I've heard the commentary about what happened Saturday night between the Florida Panthers and the Tampa Bay Lightning.
Starting point is 00:48:18 By the end, nobody's on the benches. There's 16 ejections, Sabrin got the four gamer, J.J. Mosier got the two gamer and the war of words between both fan bases rages on. One, memories of playing in
Starting point is 00:48:34 games like that. And what did you think about that in a preseason game where it was shades of, you know, 1975 and it's the Flyers and the Bruins all over again? I mean, I think it's, I think it's great. It says, you know, you got, you don't want anybody getting hurt, uh, obviously, especially your star guys, um, but, you know, because it is the preseason. You're not fighting for much there. But I think obviously that rivalry is alive and well. You've got two of the best teams in the league. the same state in a non-hockey state. And I think that just, you saw kind of whether you like it or not,
Starting point is 00:49:13 and I know there's a lot of people who are leaning away from it, but violence is a bit of a part of the game and, you know, fighting. And, you know, you saw what happened at the Four Nations. I don't know if the viewers have ever been higher. So it's a thing people like and it brings viewership to our game. It brings new fans. Like I said, I wasn't the top of the guy in the world, so I can't really sit here and, you know, pretend like I was. But I think it's good for the game as long as, you know, it's safe and done properly.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Tyson, trust me, no fan has ever said, I can't wait to watch these two teams go out there and respect each other. I assure you, no fan has ever said that. Greg, you have a last one for Tyson? Yeah, I wanted to buggy about Landiscag. You played with Gabe for a bit in Colorado. Obviously, his story over the last few years has been insanely inspiring. A, your thoughts on him coming back. And B, from a player's perspective, to see a guy work back as long as he worked back,
Starting point is 00:50:15 what does that mean of players? Man, I'm glad you ask. I love Gabe. He's one of the greatest people and humans teammates I've ever met. And to see what he went through and how hard that was on him and the family. and I got to see him a couple times throughout the process and you just, you know, you just felt for him. He was off, you know, he was down. It wasn't himself.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And then I got to see him this summer and he's back. He is buzzing. He's having a good time. You can just see it in his eyes and he just looks like himself. So for him to be able to get the chance to get back out on the ice where he belongs and lead that team and he's so important. He's such a great guy. I'm just, and I know the sentiments kind of shared around the league and anybody he's met is rooting for him. So it's, yeah, it's about his feel good of his stories as you can have and just super, super excited for him to be back out there.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Thrilled that he's back, 100%. Congratulations again on the career. Best of luck in the new endeavors, both here on the evil side of things in the media, analyst with the Vancouver Canucks and best of luck with Chile ones as well. We could not be happier for you. Thanks so much for doing this, Tyson. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Pleasure is ours. Tyson Barry, former NHL defenseman, who played with, like, heavyweights, like McKinnon, Landisg, McDavid, dry-sidal, Marner, Matthews. It's one of those, like, Grandpa, tell us the story of you playing. Like, you always talk about.
Starting point is 00:52:01 like I always said that Zach Hyman must have done something really good in a previous life because in this life, if you believe in karma, like he's gone from playing with Austin Matthews to playing with Connor McDavid. Like I don't know if he like pulled a family out of a burning house or something or save someone from drowning in a previous life. But like in this life, Zach Hyman's doing great. And he's very fortunate too. Merrick, his karma is because he's the guy who stands in front of.
Starting point is 00:52:31 in the net and has pucks hit him. His karma is on display in every game. That's why he gets to play with McDavid and Matthews. First of all, I love Tyson. He's going to be great at this job. Second of all, Florida's a non-hockey state. Come on. How many Stanley comes to the lightning and the Panthers have to win before we consider Florida
Starting point is 00:52:49 a hockey state? I don't know. You know, here's the one thing, you know, now that he's gone, the next time we have mine, one of the things I want to ask him is. behind his back now. No, here's, no, here's one of the things that I wanted to ask him. When you're playing, you're, because I mentioned he's been playing with, you know, Matthews and McDavid and Nathan McKinnon, more so when you're a younger player than not, but how much
Starting point is 00:53:15 pressure do you have always, specifically as a defenseman to get the puck to the stars as soon as possible? And the reason I bring it up is, I was thinking about this the other day, well, yesterday, when McDavid signed his contract and you think back to like, okay, so one of my memories of McDavid with the Marley's, with the Iriotters, like first game against St. Louis, turning J. Bowmeister, all these types of things. Remember that first year in Edmondson
Starting point is 00:53:38 when Andre Sechara wouldn't pass the puck to Connor McDavid? We used to talk about it on MVSW. And then everyone started watching and it's like, there it is again. I mean, we'd get tweets about it. Just looked them off again. Like we're like, what is going on here? We're just like some vets will not pass to the kid, right?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Even though it's just like, what do we see? Why is Sechre not passing the puck to McDavid? Power play, nope, breakout, nope, wasn't getting the puck. It ain't passing a kids. That's why it's such a unique, it's maybe one of the most underrated skills in the league to be able to play with the superstars, like the tippy top. Yes. We just talked about Hydeman, for example.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Like, I don't think people understand, A, the stress level and B, how good you have to be to hang with them and find chemistry with them. I mean, Cid's run in Pittsburgh's legendary for. Obviously, like Chris Kunitz being the robinu as Batman because it was one of the few guys he clicked with. But, I mean, for a long time, it was kind of like, who can Sid play with? Because no one could think the game the way that Sid thought. So when you find those guys that have the talent to hang with the tippy top stars, I always think that's something you hang on to. The Sid thing, the sit thing to me is fascinating because it seemed as if like the one thing other than like the work rate and all those types of thing for Crosby, the thing is like dude plays on his backhand. a ton.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I just wonder, like, how much of a hard read that is for players. Now, Leon Dreisseltel plays on his backhand a lot, but, like, nobody plays on their backhand, like, Sidney Crosby did. And Coenitz could just read it. Like, is that, like, again, like, reading superstar players. Like, how do you get in, like, always like, how do you get in the mind of, like, Pavel Datsuk? Like, what do you do out there?
Starting point is 00:55:21 You know, like, go play with, like, Alice Koflev is another great one. Good luck. Good luck trying to keep up with that brain. And sometimes that brain was turned off. for three or four games in a row. But when it was on, good luck playing with Kovlev. How are you going to think that way?
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's why it's been fascinated to see Gensel's career. Like Gensel came up with Siddick. There was a certain amount of, oh, you know, he's the product of what Crosby does. And then he goes to Tampa. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:45 oh, no, actually, he's just really good. So, yeah, he can play with a lot of different people and produce a lot of different points. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But yeah, I always thought, I always thought that was an underrated skill was the ability to hang with the tippy top guys. Yeah, that's true. All right, A couple of things left here. I'm going to bring you aboard for this one, too.
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Starting point is 00:56:29 games and thank God I waited for today rather than getting excited in putting them up yesterday because we did see a little bit of movement so we hang on to these ones. Three games on the schedule for tonight, Chicago at Florida, Pittsburgh at New York, Colorado at L.A. I don't think anything really surprising here in terms of what the odds are for opening night for myself unless there is for you guys. No, I just want to maybe draw a couple of things out here for Greg, specifically the Pittsburgh Penguins and the New York Rangers.
Starting point is 00:57:04 For me, the Penguins rebuild began the year after Dubus re-signed Tristan Jari and Ryan Graves. When sort of realized that, yeah, you know what? We were going to try to make it work here with Crosby and Lattang and Malkin one more time, but it's not there. And then you started to see the rebuild. But now, whether it's Harrison Brunique, whether it's, Benjamin Kindle, now really make no bones about it. This is full-on rebuild for the Pittsburgh Penguins. Maybe right now, Greg, the only legit seller in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:57:40 What do you think of the pens? I think you're probably right, although that should also be Seattle. And maybe we can even rope Nashville into that as well by the trade deadline. I see this slate. And honestly, I'm drawn to the Penguins for two reasons. won. And they're both non-analytic reasons. The first is that nothing says false hope like a opening night victory. You could see the good vibes, you know, Stid and the boys win one. They get excited. Maybe he won't ask out. And then, you know, by November, it's like they've won two.
Starting point is 00:58:16 The second thing is the Pittsburgh, New York game also has the Mike Sullivan factor. And I guess the question, Eric, is where do you fall on the old, let's show up the coach, uh, metric is it the team the coach goes to where he's like i want to beat the hell out of my old team or is it the former players of that coach we're like we got to beat this guy tonight the coach the coach wants to stick it the coach wants to stick it to the old team this is like ron wilson wanting to stick it to the san jose sharks and then maybe exchanging money on the ice after the game oops this one's a weird one though because like it's if if nothing else the penguins did him a favor by letting him go and coach the rangers
Starting point is 00:58:55 he got paid handsomely. And then took one of their... It's not bitter. And then took one of their coaches for their own rebuild and Dan Mews. Yeah, no, this is like the coach will want to stick it to the old team.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Look, look, these are two teams with different destination points this year. The Pittsburgh Penguins are one more stage of the rebuild, and the New York Rangers are, we still have a shot at getting back in the playoffs and doing something here because we have egosher stricken.
Starting point is 00:59:23 My big question is, if it doesn't work for the Rangers this year. And the Rangers still don't make the playoffs. This is a team that you could say just got a year older. And Chasturkin gives them a window. What happens if? And with the salary cap going up,
Starting point is 00:59:39 what happens in the offseason? You've already seen the GM with a major power move by putting the C on J.T. Miller instead of someone who was on the team last year. Rangers are going to be a fast, again, it's the New York Rangers. But this year has a whole bunch of like new and interesting questions that may have weird outcomes for the New York Rangers.
Starting point is 01:00:00 It's the future of Panarin. It's figuring out what that looks like. It's figuring out where Zavaniad fits into things. And ultimately, Merricka probably is going all in on an answer for the blue line. Because I think the issue for them right now is that they're going to have an outstanding first pairing if they, you know, end up putting Fox and Gabrikov together. But then beyond that, you're kind of like, boy, yeah, Kiannri Miller would look pretty good on this blue line right. now, where he ended up. Yeah, where did he go again? Oh, did he stay
Starting point is 01:00:29 in the division? Oh, geez, do we really do that? Oh, he's on the team that just continues to make great defensemen over and over and over again, no matter who goes there. Yeah, just shine up all the D, shine up all the D. Kandre Miller, right this way, ready for your Carolina Hurricanes car wash.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Okay, great stuff as always. That was fun having Tyson on. Wonderful. He's going to go, I mean, he delivers well, he's charming, and he's going to fix the lighting, so all the hits are going to look better but like presents well looks great on television it's got a beer company like honestly like what a dude i just what a great guy don't you think i my regret my regret was not getting to ask him how much quality control he had over the formula of chili ones like if you're the i always thought if i ran a beer company much much of my time might say the majority of my time
Starting point is 01:01:18 would be tasting the product for quality control and ensuring that the recipe was up enough for my consumers. I, because I would imagine, what do you talk about 18 different investors, 18 buddies that have invested in this thing? And I'm sure that there's any NHL guys or if it's just like, boy, I don't know if it's, I'm sure there's some NHL guys. I don't know. It's a ton of NHL guys.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's a ton of NHL guys, Zach, yeah. Okay. So I'm sure that in the back of all of their minds, when they're writing a check, they're thinking to themselves like, okay, so I'm going to get a say on what this thing is going to taste like, right? Just like, you know, when you're a, when you're a new owner in the NHL and you have like, a dozen other owners who all come in for like 20 million dollars and they think that because they spent 20 million dollars are going to have a say until they realized the franchise was like 1.9 billion dollars and 20 million dollars is going to get you exactly zero say in all of this that's
Starting point is 01:02:12 what this is I always think about that if everyone like the power ball or mega millions like I'd buy into the devils and then just be able to go to like a meeting every year I'd have no say I'd have no pull but at least I can get like into the meeting by the way the chilly ones thing speaks to my heart as a beer drinker. I had a couple friends back at Washington, D.C., Jimmy Patterson, who was a big Capitals fan. And he would constantly refer to Miller High Life as Chili Millies. And to this day, I'll be at a barbecue and the cooler will be open. I'll be like, oh, chili millies. And people look at me like, I just had a stroke. I'm like, no, no, no, no. It's what we used to call High Life. Okay, Grandpa, it's time to close the
Starting point is 01:02:54 cooler. Someone call the Uber for a Greg. Someone's been over. By the way, I will be at MSG for that penguin's upset tonight. So if anybody's there and you'll want to say, hey, I'll be the one rushing through the arena with a sweater and a tie, probably getting there late because, you know, it's an 8 o'clock start and I'm all out of sorts. If you want to buy him a chili, Millie, I'm sure he would love that. Greg, you'd be good. Alex, I'll get an MSG. All right, take care.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Pull some money off the tree in the back yard. We're going on the Rangers game. All right, you'd be good. Thanks, Wish. Thanks to Tyson Barry for stopping by. Analyst for the Vancouver Canucks. Also, one of many owners of chilly ones. Check that out if they are in your neck of the woods.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Thanks to Tyson Barry for stopping by. Zach, thanks to you as always. Thanks to everybody in the chat, everybody watching on YouTube. Please subscribe. Oh, wait a minute. We got more? One more ad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:51 What do we got? Oh, that's right. We got one more. Sorry. We got one more thing to get to. And that is, first of all, I want to welcome Uber Eats to the broadcast. Thanks for being aboard. Stad of the day is a presentation of Uber Eats.
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Starting point is 01:04:50 Okay. Today, because by tomorrow, the stat is dead and it does not matter. Okay. As for the NHL season opener, this one, Uber-Eats stat of the day. The defending Stanley Cup champions are 60, 26, and 16 in season openers. Now, I'm of a couple of minds here. One, with all due respect to Chicago Blackhawks, do, does the schedule maker, Steve Hatsipatso-Betros deliberately book an inferior team
Starting point is 01:05:23 for the Stanley Cup champions game one. I don't know. I'd have to go back and look at the schedule. The reason it might find it surprising is I'm curious to stat on teams that have teams on ceremony night where they'll have to be out there for the entire ceremony. And depending on what the nature of the ceremony
Starting point is 01:05:47 is, usually the visiting team will just just stay in the room. And the visiting team then will come out a lot hotter than the team that just stood around for 20 minutes or half an hour. And they get behind the eight ball early. I'd be curious to see some type of, not that I'm nudging you this direction, although maybe I am, statistic on that. But defending Stanley Cup champions 6026, 16 in season openers. I wonder if that is a thumb on the scale by the schedule maker. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:19 But I wonder, Zach. I wonder. Yeah. I mean, they're not lined up against the Edmonton Oilers tonight. Is that right? Carolina's not in town tonight, no? I'll tell you, you know what? I'll tell you, you know, we all wish we're in town tonight.
Starting point is 01:06:40 The Tampa Bay Lightning. I know. But yes, but no, because a couple of those guys are suspended. So now you just want to wait for them to come back. And then when they come back, November 15th, I believe, is the first rematch. Get your boxing gloves ready. Good seats are still available.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Stick around for the hockey. Just on waivers as well, by the way. What do we have? Sorry, so sorry? What's that? Billy Huso and Alexander Georgiev, just place on waivers. I don't know. don't think in the history of the NHL a single goal tender has made more money based on was it
Starting point is 01:07:24 20 games 30 games yeah then really he made was it like 20 million dollars based on was it 30 games maybe 40 games like incredible so i know you don't watch the NFL um there's a lot of times now i've started to relate it where the goalie who comes in at the end of the season and plays really well and picks up or just has like that short spurt it's related it's relatable to the NFL with the backup quarterback who finishes out a season for a team who's out of playoff contention and the starter doesn't play and in the next year some teams like wow that got to have them played real good we got to give them the money got to give them let's go you watch some backup goalie who played like 20 games and lit it up for 20 and they're like that guy could be a starter
Starting point is 01:08:15 That'll be a show one day down the road. Favorite Flash in the Pan goaltenders? Blaine Locker. I'm looking your directions. But there's a litany. We won't do it now, but let's, I don't know how we would do it either. Or who we should do it with? But let's put that in the back of our minds.
Starting point is 01:08:38 The Flash in the Pan, John Casey, Flash in the Pan gold tenders, who's flame burnt bright, but burnt out quickly. Kind of like this show. And with this, we'll go. Tip your Zamboni driver. Thanks for the buns in the use of the hall. Sheet returns tomorrow 1 o'clock Eastern. Don't forget, by the way,
Starting point is 01:08:53 Elliot Friedman making his debut today on Morning Cup of Hockey. Go back and watch that one in the archives. Also, Elliot's on bi-weekly and the alternate week. James Van Ramesdike joins Colby and Laz. So, like, the whole network has like a major lift this year. So we got Wish Twice a Week on this program. More guest announcements coming up. On the rundown, I'm on with Gregor for the Monday morning release
Starting point is 01:09:18 And then the second show of the week We've got Mike Rupp and then Morning Cup of Hockey Elliot Friedman and James Van Reimsdike So major lifts everywhere around the network And Carter Hutton on DFO Live So like we've polished it up everywhere Ladies and gentlemen here on the network And we're glad to all be part of it
Starting point is 01:09:40 Enjoy the games tonight, threw them on to go around the NHL back to talk about actual hockey. Imagine that tomorrow, 1 o'clock Eastern right here on our daily face-off YouTube channel. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for chatting.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Thanks for the likes and all the rest and the subscriptions. We'll talk to tomorrow. I spent 16 hours last night every day this week, every day this month. I can't get out my head, lifestyle, ambitious day-to-day
Starting point is 01:10:11 because I can call it a rush. I went to the dark man He tried to give me a little medicine I'm like now and that's fine I'm not against those methods but new It's me and myself And now this is going to be fixed in my mind
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