The Sheet with Jeff Marek - NHL Rumor Mill Heating Up ft. Andi Petrillo & David Pagnotta

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

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So you know I'd like that, right? Warren Fogel, quit in byfield, and how they made their arrival. Yesterday in advance of being the Toronto Maple Leafs and overtime story, my producer, Zach Phillips is a Maple Leafs fan, host of Leaves After Dark, so I'll whisper that. Beating the Maple Leafs in all the time last night. Zach, do we have that? I want to kick off the show feeling good. Look at that.

And I know other players have done it. I know they do it in other sports, certainly. But hockey is new. Now that they don't have a dress code and they can wear whatever they want and most of them still choose to wear suits, you can get stuff like that. So quit and byfield.

Actually, Zach and I talked about YSE. That's York Simco Express. That's where he played his minor hockey. Stateside that's called Youth Hockey. Number 55 for YSE, who skated and looked like and played like Eric Lindross when he was in minor hockey. And that is the jersey number three, Warren Fogel, St. Andrews College, which is a very distinguished college. It's kind of like the way that, like, Zach, do you think this is an accurate way of describing it?

I've run this by Dave Manning a couple of times. He runs the hockey program there at St. Andrews. I said, how should I describe St. Andrews? Andrews College for someone who's not aware, and there are a lot of players that have gone through there. Robert Thomas went through there of the St. Louis Blues, one of the bigger stars that they produced. Alex New Hook is another one. You could just keep rattling them all the way down. There's a lot of players that have gone through St. Andrews College.

And I kind of look at it this way. Let me know how you feel about this one, because Manning was like, yeah, that's cool. I like that. It's Canada's Shattuck St. Mary's. Nice. say Shattuck North. Shattuck North? Okay, so it's kind of like that.

It's a real, I don't want to say it's a secret because more people know about it now, but it's in a place called Aurora, Ontario, which Zach Phillips, you're very well aware of. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. Yeah, they're proud of you too, Zach. They're proud to call you what of your... Pumping out stars. Crank it out stars. Look at Aurora go.

Zach Phillips. Yeah, it's a tremendous college. that cranks out elite-level players that find their way to NCAA and elsewhere. Anyhow, we talked about Byfield yesterday, we talked about YSE, and I was really happy to see Warren Fogel and Quentin Byfield arriving at the rink in their minor hockey gear. Anyhow, a couple of things from last night that I just want to sort of get to, and man, that would have been such a great feeling for Byfield yesterday,

scoring in Toronto, overtime winner, friends and family, all of it. That was one of those nights. that we like to describe as you're playing for free because you're going back home and you have to buy so many tickets for everybody. Contrary to some popular belief, every hockey player doesn't get like 50 tickets to every game that they just like dispersed.

They'll get a pair of tickets to the game. And what they'll do is when they're in their home market, what they'll do is, you know, they'll try to get tickets from all the guys that aren't using them. Toronto's tough because there's so many from the area with friends and family coming down. so you end up having to buy a bunch of tickets and you get them whichever way you can, which pretty much offsets for some players, not all players.

It can offset significantly how much you make that day. So that day is referred to playing free. And I'm guessing Quentin Byfield, although not technically playing free, may have felt like he was playing for free last night, but he filled his boots with it and got the O2 winner last night, Zach. Yeah, I think it was on the post-game show, Sean McKenzie, Bob McKenzie's son, for those in the states, maybe not familiar. He said to Doughty, you know, what was it like? He's like, well, all the Ontario boys played well tonight, you know, you've got all friends and family in town and Chris Cuthbert on the broadcast after he scored.

If people noticed, it was kind of subtle, but if you knew what to look for, you knew what to look for in that one, skates over to the glass and is looking up into the crowd. Normally, guys are looking at the fans in front of them. was looking up and it hits the glass up high and you kind of just knew that was a moment where it was like, I've got about 78 people up there right now. Yeah. I'm in debt from this game. Yeah.

Get your money's worth. Yeah. I got my pockets are elephant ears here. I got nothing in them. Yeah. Thanks, everybody. Thanks. Thanks for that one.

But anyway, Bifield must have felt fantastic last night. And Gabriel Landiscaug. All right. We're going to talk to Andy Petrello here coming up in a couple of seconds. We're going to talk about her new book. I'm going to talk more about hockey with Andy. But Gabriel Landisog, and I know Edmund to Oilers fans are going to say, Zach Hyman had more, but Landisog, and I'm glad he got the empty netter,

Landisog had another one called back yesterday. But it wasn't for offside this time. It was for goaltender interference. Jack Drury. It technically was the right call. But if you're Gabriel Landisog, you're like, I've had three goals called back this year. Come on, man, let's get going. Speaking of let's get going

Let's get going on the show today. Thanks so much for joining me. Always a pleasure to have you aboard. Coming up on the program, this is, after all, the blueprints. And the blueprint is powered by our friends at Fanduel. Download the app today and play your game on Fanduel. Coming up on today's broadcast, we'll talk about a lot about what we saw last night

and maybe a preview of the weekend. Andy Petrello is going to stop by from Prime Amazon hockey and CBC Sports. We'll talk about hockey and her new book, Just Call Me Andy, which I finished last night, and it is excellent. Although I want to open up with a story about Andy's wedding,

which I've told the story so many times with so many people and it's one of my favorite things in the world and I hope that Andy remembers our conversation about it before she got married.

Dave Panyoda, DFO Insider is going to stop by from the fourth period. We'll talk about amongst other things trade talk. This will revolve around the St. Louis Blues,

the Calgary Flames, the Toronto Maple Leafs, and as we approach the 20 game mark for the Buffalo Sabres, maybe just the swords here. In the meantime, before we get to Andy, one thing we do want to mention this segment of the show

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Monday, November 17th, Columbus is hosting Montreal to take on Demetoff, Hudson, and the Habs. Check out the link in our description for the Monday Night Hockey schedule on Prime Video or go to primevideo.com slash NHL also on Prime Video faceoff inside the NHL season two. Subscribe with a 30-day free trial to Prime Video and watch Monday Night Hockey and the new season of Face Off. Download the app or go to Prime. I'm video.com. With that, we'll bring her aboard. You watch her, you listen to her, and now you can read her. A new offering that I finished last night is Just Call Me Andy, Sports Stories from a Trailblazer.

Someone I'm proud to call a colleague and her friend. She is Andy Petrello. She joins me now. First of all, how did I do the read for Prime? Was that okay? I didn't make it too sing-songy. Did I put my breasts in the proper plate? Did I put the accent on the right syllables?

Andy, you're a vet, and I feel like I need an air check. That was a good promo. You've encouraged me to watch. How about that? All right. I got you hooked. You got me hooked. You kind of have to.

I mean, there's kind of a contract that your agent worked on. Kind of there. You're kind of there already. Andy, before we get to the book and before we get to Hockey, and first of all, thanks so much for stopping by. It's great to see your smiling face again. One of my favorite wedding stories to tell is yours. Oh, dear.

Do you remember what you said to me? So it was in Kleinberg. Okay? Yes. For those, home of the binder twine festival at the doctor. That's it called the doctor's house. The doctor's house. Yeah.

In Glenberg. Yeah. Fantastic spot. Love it. So, uh, you came up to me right before we went into the chapel and you said, something along the lines of. I'm paraphrasing you. I work in TV.

Watch this. Set your watch. And I'm like, all right. You know where I'm going to. And I'm like, okay. So I'm in there. And sure enough, by time everything's, out and you've you've come out of the chapel, you come over to me and you go, how long?

And I said it's like 22 or 23 minutes. And she's like, that's a TV show. That's a TV show. 22 minutes. I've told people that that was deliberate and that was planned. Have I been lying to them? Or did you try to do, did you try to do a 22 minute, like a half hour TV show? No, it's funny because, so first of all, yes, because of TV and producing, that needed to be

distinct. I'm like, we show up at the church at this time. It's like, we had, we didn't have a rehearsal dinner. We had a pre-production meeting. Like, that's essentially what we had before the wedding to make sure everything was going to be on time. But I've also been scarred, Jeff, man, like growing up in an Italian, like, Italian, like, Italian weddings, like sometimes you go to church, and then the priest wants to wax poetic, lovely, sometimes they're wonderful. But next thing, you know, you're like, was that an hour and a half? And they have so many reasons. And they have so many readings and then you go to the hall and like everyone wants to give a speech i'm like no this is the script follow the script and we're going to move along and this is going to be a great show slash

party so yeah no things things were timed out i came away from it looking around saying okay so who's a guest and who's the floor director who's actually who's actually doing like like this is the cool and then we just got like you know right to the right to right to the booze and and the fun and it was It was a great time. And we had the ice luge, if you, if you recall. I recall, yeah. Listen, the whole thing was fantastic. I want to get to the book.

I finished it last night. It's fantastic. There is one thing in here that I do want to bring up, but I want to get it out of the way right away. So last night, quitting Byfield and Warren Fogel come into the, come into the Scotia Bank yesterday. And Byfield's wearing his old YSE 55 and St. Andrew's College jersey is on Warren Fogel. And it got me thinking about Aurora. and then New Market.

And this is one of the places where you cut your teeth. There's the picture of the guy. I was like, that looks like. How great is that? They look great, right? So in your book, there's a section where you're talking about doing games in the OJHL. And it's Aurora and it's New Market. And which was the other one?

Yeah, we had the Thornhill Thunderbirds for a little bit. That was it, Thunderbirds. Yeah. And you were talking a lot about New Market and the Ray 20 Arena. Now, I used to go there all the time to watch someone. someone who looked, like honestly, I know I'm dating myself here. It was a fourth overall draft pick. He looked just like Mario.

To the point where he like wore all of Mario's gear, like the coho stick, the coho gloves. His name is Jason Bonsignor. He was a fourth overall draft pick. And this is when New Market had an OHL team. And in there, I thought it was so interesting that you put in there your conversation with Kelly McDavid. So Connor McDavid's mom, who told you that Connor used to watch all of those games and your

presentation of them. Yeah. You know what I take credit for his career. But yeah, go on. I think Brian, his father may have a thing or two to say about that as well. But, you know, it got me thinking, too, like, yeah, I would not be surprised. Again, I am not reporting this. I'm not saying that this has been a conversation.

This is just I've wondered about, you know, now with the Hyman family and Zach Hyman owning the Brantford Bulldogs of the OHL, would it surprise you? if somewhere down the road, Connor McDavid bought a team and moved it to New Market in the OHL or got an expansion team in New Market. I mean, the history of players buying junior hockey teams is long. And they're always, guys are looking. And it was just,

it represents a time in their life where hockey is just pure and fun and not business. But I've always wondered about McDavid because that new market areas have been, and now they have an OJ team there now. but I've always wondered about McDavid buying a team, getting involved in OHL hockey and placing one back in new market. What do you think? You want to give that an eyebrow raise or not?

Why not, though? I mean, obviously, that would ultimately be up to him. And in the beginning, it would probably just be a financial venture because I don't know how much time he'd be able to invest in it. But I mean, even his teammate, Leon Drysidal, while not hockey, he has another passion, which is soccer. And last year, he invested. He's an owner.

in a new league called, I think it's called Iconic, and it's an indoor soccer league in Germany. So the opportunity, you know, I mean, and listen, he knows more people than you and I know. So if he wants to do it, he could do it like yesterday if he wanted to. But why not? And I think that's always special. I mean, you and I obviously have this connection to new market.

He clearly, you know, born and raised in new market. I just think that that would be pretty incredible for anybody there where somebody who grew up there, played hockey there, is clearly exceptional in the NHL, and then invests kind of like, you know, in the grassroots level of it all. I mean, it just the story writes itself. I love it. I would love the idea of it. It's just, you know, matter if he wants to do it.

Just pull some money off the tree, buy a junior hockey team. You know, like, where is it? It's like the crumpled up like $100 bill. Just like, oh, this is it. Lift up the cushions, you know, like, oh, yeah, here's a couple of me. male just lying around what was that scene i think it was the eddie murphy rsigno hall like coming to america where he gets upset at arsigno hall and he takes like a wad of cash out of his wallet to like discipline him and he goes why are you taking my like you know my chunk change essentially right and

i'm like oh my goodness like a wad of like hundreds and he's like why are you taking that that's that's that's Connor it's like i know easy yeah here you go oh oh oh hl team i'll i'll be back at training camp The book, there's some really, I'm going to try to frame this in maybe kind of a crass way, but here we go. And by the way, I love how you talk about Brenda Irving in this book. I think that Brenda Irving is one of one of the best and most generous broadcasters I've ever had a chance to work with in 2008 in Beijing. She saved me at both trampoline and gymnastics. Completely saved me. completely saved me.

Why were you doing that? I was ushered into it because they needed someone in the mix zone. And they're like, Merrick, you're free, go. And I'm like, Brenda, what do I? And she had like a stack of boys. I'm like, Brenda, like, prep me in like 10 minutes. And you'd swear that I knew like everything in the history of gymnastics. Oh, I love that.

And like, I am forever indebted to Brenda Irving. But you talk about the pioneers a lot. The pioneers in women's media as it relates to sports. And do you know the Jenny Kellner story? I do not. So Jenny Kalner covered the NFL. And she wasn't, I don't think she was the first. But this was, this one is always stuck with me.

Cover your ears, gentle souls. This is about to get salty. So she's doing a New York Jets game. And one of the guys whose identity has always been hidden, unfortunately, approaches Jenny for an interview afterwards and removes his towel and says, what do you think? And Jenny without missing a beat says, it looks like a penis only smaller.

I've heard this story. I do the interview now. It's Jenny Kellner. It's like one of the great lines of all the time. But like it that's what it was like in the 70s and the 80s as female reporters entered the dressing room and the locker room. Give us a snapshot of what it is like today. And I don't know if you had any experiences as crass as Jenny had. But, I mean, I'm sure you have some scars from some situations, you know,

battling through this industry as a woman. Yeah, I never had anyone drop a towel in front of me. Thank goodness. But, I mean, there's been like little cheeky things here and there, especially when you're on the road because the dressing rooms really are that tiny, right? So when guys are out in the shower, sometimes somebody would like run by. But like every single media member saw that. them. And, you know, maybe if they were trying to make me blush, you know, they ended up

kind of exposing themselves at everybody else. So I've never been singled out in that way. I've had instances more where, like, I would walk into a room, especially in smaller hockey markets. Like, I still remember the first time I walked into the Nashville Predators room. It just went quiet. Like, I just remember everybody turning around. And it was like an alien just walked into the room. Because oftentimes, especially on the road and especially in American markets, It's like I was the only woman. And I, at that time, too, like, I didn't exactly blend into the wall. Like, I had long hair.

It was bleached blonde and I always had a red coat on. So I didn't exactly hide. It wasn't a wallflower by any means. So when I walked in, you knew I did. And I saw I got a lot of that. And it was more of like, and I do share this in the book, oftentimes being on the road and in road rinks. I would always get singled out by the arena staff. they'd always think I was the one who was lost

I was the one who was trying to sneak in so they would always ask for my credentials and it's one thing if they were asking for everybody's credentials but they weren't like they would let the guys walk right on through because the assumption is that they're supposed to be there they know where they're going

so I would get stopped a lot you know where you lost miss can I help you miss where your credentials miss so I just get kind of you know a lot of that garbage that's for sure Do you have, like, Leon Driesettle has always been one of my go-toes. Like, do you have like people, Boorovat was that way in, in Vancouver? Do you have like a go-to where you're like, okay, I'm covering this team?

I am definitely talking to this person just because you know their tremendous interview. Oh my goodness. I mean, yeah. I mean, we, I mean, do I have somebody in particular? I'm trying to think right now. I mean, last year, I really started to like Max Petruetti because he would give some really great answers when it came to the leaves.

I got to say Johnny T's pretty good. He'll give you stuff, especially like post-game. And, you know, he's really good that way. I mean, even Stolars will yap forever. I like the vets. I find the veterans, like when I go to Patty Kane or when I've spoken to like Eric Carlson or just guys who have been around,

I find they listen to the question and they'll give thoughtful answers. Some of these guys right now, and I don't know, I mean, I think they get media training, but because they're far more protected, sometimes the ability to express themselves doesn't come as naturally, so you really get the cliche answers. I mean, the cliche answers have always been there, no doubt. But I felt like the guys who have just been around a long time, Drew Dowdy, love talking to him, they just open up and they just give honest answers.

And the guys now are just a little bit more. guarded and reserved and it's a cliche answer and I'm like just like come on man I know you got personality right but so hang on pause for one second think back to the for because I do this too because I'm always like there's a couple of different agencies where every year I'll do like a talk for the kids like here's what to expect with media here's how to do a walk off interview here's how to do like a long form interview here's some tricks and some tips for how to do this so you're not walking into this blind but like something happens the first time you're in front of a camera And holy smokes, Andy Petrillo is holding a microphone in front of my face.

And all of a sudden, you can have all the plans to be the coolest hockey player in the world. But then when the towel goes around your neck and you hear the count from the control room, it all changes. Like, I can imagine, like, I understand, like, when you're Drew Dowdy and you've done it a million times, it's pretty easy to be cool. But part of me is always the back of my mind, like, they must be terrified at this moment. Dude, I interviewed Ben Kindle a couple times. And at first, I spoke to him, no cameras around because I really wanted to chat with him about his family, right? Both of his parents played for the national team.

Soccer, his sister right now plays for the U-17, I think it is, or plays for Canada as well, was just representing them at the World Cup. And so we were just chatting. And he was lovely and he was engaging. We were having this great conversation. And then he ends up picking up a couple goals in that game against the Leaf. So I'm like, boom, need him as my second intermission interview, right? Yeah.

So he comes off the ice. And already he's kind of breathing heavy because he's playing hockey. And then he kind of sees that he was chosen for the interview. And I think he started to hyperventilate a little bit. So he's like, can I take a moment? And I said, sure, sit down. Catch your breath, right? Like intermission is only so long.

But yeah, I'm like, catch your breath. And he was so nervous. And he just, and then I even had him again on coast to coast on Thursday night. And he just kind of like gave very straightforward answers. And then the second we were done, he's joking with us. I'm like, aw, right? Like, obviously it's the red light syndrome, I guess. You know, you see the red light go off and you get a little nervous.

Sure, of course. It takes time with anything. I remember one of my first assignments at Hockey Night in Canada, this would have been 2008. I was doing a Montreal San Jose game, and Ryan Clow was on the Sharks. And I talked to him after the morning he's skating. And Clow's a great interview. He's tremendous. And so we were talking afterwards.

He's like, I really want to get one of those. house. I really want to get one of those towels. I'm like, dude, you're a great talker. You just have to do something in the game, right? You have to that way I can request, you know, like, this is why he wants to talk to Ryan Kloh. And so of course, Kloz, okay,

I got to do something. I got to do something. I think he had like a fight, a goal, maybe two goals or something like that. And so I'm, you know, you get to the position at the bell center, he's already waiting there. He just knows, like, doesn't even have to be asked. He's like, I got this. I got this. It's just like, I'm like,

dude you've just become one of one of my favorites um i love that he wants that towel so well quickly on that note now this is a little different nasm cadry in his rookie year i've shared this story before in his rookie year i mean he was like he made himself available for everything he was actually really lovely he's still very giving of his time and the way that the acc is or scotia bank arena now whoops he went back in time there the way the scotia bank arena is constructed is so we we used to do sit down interviews in the wives room in the morning and you could access that through this like back door of the room. And then there's the normal entrance into the dressing room that the media goes through. And I'm waiting for Cadre, waiting for Cadry. He's not

there. So I decide to go in the dress room. I leave the wives lounge. And I'm standing there. And all of a sudden, PR like Steve Kea looks at me. And he's like, what are you doing here? I don't even know if it was Steve Keogne at the time. Maybe it was still Pat Park. And he's like, what are you doing here? And I said, what are you talking about? He's like, Nas left. Like he left like five minutes ago. He's in the room. And I said, oh, my goodness. So I go sprinting. My camera guy had also gone to the bathroom. So the lights are all off. And I can see this silhouette of Cadre sitting on the stool. And he had grabbed the microphone and clipped it to himself. So this wire is like hanging from the camera to his chest. And he's just sitting there waiting in the dark. And I'm like, Nas? He's like,

yeah. I said, what are you doing? You didn't have to stay here. You could have come and gotten. He's like, I knew you'd show up eventually. But like the way he clipped on his mic and everything, he was ready to go, baby. He was ready to give the sit-down interview. I've loved them ever since. Let me ask you about mentorship. And you do talk about this in Just Call Me Andy, Sports Stories from a Trailblazer. Larry Brooks just passed away.

And I thought one of the most beautiful things that we've seen in the last couple of years is the relationship that we saw built very publicly, a mentor, mentee, friend. friendship, colleague relationship between Larry Brooks and Molly Walker. It was a beautiful thing. And you could just tell how Molly was crushed when Larry passed away yesterday. We don't get, and I mean, I certainly didn't have many. I had a couple. But as this industry gets smaller and smaller, certainly the broadcast side of things, the idea of mentorship has gone out the window.

Like there was always like, you know, you were training someone else or helping someone along with their career. You've always gone out of your way to help people. You're not one of those get to the roof and kick the ladder down kind of people, Andy. But who are those people for you? Who are the people that helped you up every run? Yeah. And I mean, I'm similar to you in that sense where I try to think a little bit.

And it's something, again, that I touch on in the book, because I think for women, this is a very difficult question. It seems simple, like who mentored you. but in the sports world where you're still told that there's only so many spots for you and in fact oftentimes just one it unfortunately can pit a lot of women against each other because you covet that position because in some ways you're also told to be grateful even though you've earned it even though you're probably the best person for that job you've also been told that you know you should be grateful for having that and you know you're kind of satisfied

with the crumbs at that point and then you become very protective of that that one single chair you're told you're allowed to sit in at the table. And as you get older and a younger woman comes along, you don't want to help her because that's essentially your replacement. And the younger woman, unfortunately, you know, doesn't feel welcome, doesn't feel protected. But then at the same time also sees the older woman as someone who doesn't have all these pearls of wisdom to share about an industry that she definitely needs help navigating. She sees that older woman as somebody that she needs to get out of the way.

that's an obstruction and she needs to move. So you have unfortunately a budding of the heads as opposed to beautiful mentoring relationships. I do believe that's changing because I felt that when I first came in, I did not have women really take me under their wing. I just, I did not. As I started to progress in the industry,

most of my co-workers and my exposure were men. And they would start to take me under their wing and give me advice. And till this day, you know, James Duthy is one of them. He wrote the four word in my book, but he was always somebody I turned to for advice. And, you know, till this day, I see. Oh, hang on.

We've got to get Andy back. She just froze. We'll get Andy back to finish that story. It is interesting the way that in this industry, we get all inside baseball here with Andy. We're once upon a time, like when you started, And I started in 1994. There are a lot of people around that would help you along the way, like veteran people.

Like for me, it was, you know, starting at the fan in Toronto, it was Spider-Jones. It was, you know, Norm Rumach, like a lot of guys that were significant players on the air that would help you and put you in positions that maybe you weren't ready for by any stretch of the imagination. But because they knew that you needed a shot in the arm or you needed something, you needed some help in the industry. they were the ones that shepherded you along as opposed to just, well, you're on your own. You're on your life raft and, you know, you're going to sink or swim. No one's coming for you. Don't bother sending a flare. No one's going to come look for you.

That's kind of the way that it is today. And I think a lot of that is now, because the way the industry has gone, the way to, quote, unquote, get in, you can't really go anywhere. You can't go to smaller markets to develop yourself. It's either, you know, and it's why my advice to everyone is always, you know, start a podcast, do your own thing and let them discover you. Sorry, we froze on you there for a couple seconds, Andy. If you want to finish your story about mentorship and how there were a couple of men that helped you along the way. And you mentioned James. Yeah. And so definitely I had more

men actually be my mentors. And things are changing, you know, we bit in the industry as I was talking about, which unfortunately how women have been pitted against each other. And Christine Simpson is a great example of, you know, this is a great example of, you know, This has been a few years now, maybe even longer. She first reached out to a lot of women in the industry for International Women's Day. And annually on that day, she always hosts like a dinner. Like we all together and we cheers each other. And that was, you know, Christine Simpson who started that.

And I just never wanted, and I felt for a lot of women in the, I never, I don't hold any resentment because I can't imagine, you know, constantly being not enough room. for many of you, more than one of you. So I don't hold any resentment, but I also want to make sure, like that either. So I try to make sure that I'm available to young women. And so it gets noticed, but it's also sad that it gets noticed. So I'll give you an example.

This was literally just last weekend. I was in Ottawa, the Canadian Premier League championship final. And we have a young girl who's working with us over at One Soccer, McKenzie Barwell. I absolutely adore her. This is somebody who has a very high ceiling. and I cannot wait to see what she does in this industry. And at the awards night, we're chatting away and at the after party, you know, glued at the hip, just anything, any questions she asked for me, I answer them.

And the next day, I run into a woman who works for the CPL in the elevator at the hotel. And she said, I just want you to know that we'll have noticed you and McKenzie and, you know, how you just, your time to her take her under your wing and how amazing it is to see that because we didn't have that either when we were coming into this industry so it was lovely that it's being acknowledged but it was also sad that it's like

yeah that stands out like that stands out a woman helping another woman in this industry that stands out uh I other than you know I mean I don't I don't know really what other than that's awful and I don't really as a man in this industry I don't know what to say to that. Like, all I can do is stand on the sidelines and support.

The one thing that I, that I do think, one, like, there's one very specific date, as I was reading your book yesterday, there's one very specific date that I think doesn't get enough attention in the history of hockey media. And it's the All-Star Game, 1975. The All-Star game of 1975 at the Montreal Forum, Robin Herman and Marcel St. Cyr became the two first women to enter an NHL dressing room. I think Robin interviewed Gila Fleur. I'm not sure what Marcel did.

But that was a day when the gender barrier was officially broken in Montreal at the All-Star Game in 1975. I've always thought that should be a day that should be more recognized at least by a lot of people. But as I'm reading this outstanding book, the last couple of days. that's one of the things that comes to my mind. Andy, where do we get and how do we get? We all know why we should get, but where do we get? Anywhere that you get books, you can order them on Amazon.

You could go to chapters in to go. There are some audio book versions out there as well for those who like to listen while they are commuted into it from work or to it from school. I did it. Okay, hang on a second. How weird does it feel to try to sound like yourself? First of all, I didn't realize you have to speak slowly. Yeah.

Because they're like, think about it. When you read a book in your head, sometimes you'll go over the same lines. So you have to, hey, so that was me who talks a mile a minute. I had to speak slowly. And then there's a part in the book, if you recall, I share a story about going to Harvard with Dom Moore shooting a feature and how cops. Okay. So I tried to do a Boston accent. I could write out the accent.

Now I actually had to do it. So there's me attempting a Boston accent in there, which is kind of funny. Yeah. I may have butchered that. I am so sorry to everyone from Boston. But yeah, it was a pretty cool experience to be able to read it. Yeah, and it just kind of re-imported. I'm really happy that I did write it.

I'm really happy to my literary agent. I do want to give my literary agent a shout out, Brian Wood, because he's the one who convinced me to do this. And, you know, you get to a point in your life where you try to figure out how to give back. And I guess one of the ways to give back is to write this book. So I hope a lot of young women, you know, feel seen by this and kind of get some answers on how to navigate.

this industry, but I also feel like a lot of men, to your point, you know, I mean, Jeff, you've been amazing. You've been absolutely amazing. I adore you. Because it's so key. How do you help? Well, you help by just not making gender a thing, right? Like, again, as another thing that I point out in my book, when we hired another woman when I was over at Leaves TV, two guys that I work with were like, ooh, they hired another woman. Are you scared? And I'm like, why? Like, when you guys hire another man, do I turn to you and go, oh, Jeff, now your job's threatened because they hired another dude? So it's just things like that where it's like, man, just don't be stupid. Yeah.

Don't be stupid. It's the great line from afterlife. Good good people help people. The end. That's it. Good people help people. The end. You're great.

This is excellent. I really enjoyed reading this the last couple of days. Just call me, Andy. Sports Stories from the trailer blazer. My guest has been Andy Petrello. Continued success. And let's do this again, Andy. Yes, for sure.

I'll see you too. See, Andy. The wonderful Andy Petrello encourage you to give this one to read specifically, but not exclusively. You don't have to be like a young woman or a mature woman to read and appreciate this. There's some great stories in here. And some of them are quite funny. And a lot of it is really eye-opening too. And it's always good to have reminders of what people have gone through in their career,

especially in an industry like ours here, that on a consistent basis, more so for women than men, will always give you an excuse to quit. Always. All right. Thanks, Andy Petrello for stopping by. Someone who's been waiting very patiently as I talked to Andy is Dave Panjota, insider here at Daily Faceoff and the fourth period.

He joins me now. Dave, really quickly, you know, there was just talking to Andy Petrello about mentors and people that helped you along the way. And it's not as profound. found as it used to be, like when I started, it started to dwindle and the industry really started to get smaller and smaller. But other people for, for you, Dave, that help shepherd you along in your career, before we get into all the trade talk, like who helped you, Dave?

The floor is yours. Yeah. There were a lot, a lot of individuals that kind of helped me along, especially when I first started, you know, some notables that stick out to me, Mike Zeyzberger. Love Ziz. Yeah, he was, he was, no pun intended, big assist for me. Yeah. Big guy. But like from day one, just, you know, I was, I was a kid when I started and, you know, he kind of was always willing to talk and listen and have a conversation and whatnot.

And then as I, as the career kind of, you know, moved along and I got a little more into the inside stuff, Bob McKenzie was big with respect to assisting me in that respect, the Bobfather and then a number of others that have that have helped you know along the way and Elliot and Darren and a bunch of guys but you know it's I think everybody kind of needs somebody even even if it's in passing even if it's very casual to kind of you know just give you a little nudge give you a little assist and and help you out when they can that's awesome always good to recognize this but I just think it's important coming off the interview with Andy just to get your thoughts on and who helped you along the way

And you didn't mention Nick Alberga, who just for the record, has done nothing for your career. Is that what you're going on the record as saying here, Dave? I'm not saying that. I'm not not saying that. I will neither confirm nor deny. Right, right. Nick is assisted in a variety of different ways.

And I've assisted him too sometimes. Very good, very good. Every Friday have two Saturdays. I get it. Every Friday had two Saturdays. That's right. Okay, listen, a couple of teams. that really aren't having two Saturdays

and not enjoying themselves these days. The Calgary Flames, the Toronto Maple Leafs, and we should probably throw in the St. Louis Blues. Where do you want to begin? Like, where do you think the temperature is the hottest? Well, I think Calgary and St. Louis are at the top, Nashville even, to a certain extent. But, you know, they're the ones that are near the bottom.

And teams will consistently, and I've said this week after week, they vulture in. That's the term I love to use to try to see if they can kind of pluck pieces away from some of these teams just to see how desperate some of them may be. You know, talking to people in Calgary and around the flames and around the league, yes, there's a lot of interest. We've talked about cadre. We've talked about Anderson. We've talked about Coleman in the last few weeks. I still get the sense that they're still trying to figure out what they want to do.

And I think there needs to be a clear cut. path between management and ownership just to determine exactly what the right path is and when if they do go in the direction of a rebuild slash retool when does that begin and I think if they do go in that direction we're probably a couple weeks away two three weeks away from things really starting to heat up in that regard because yeah there is significant interest in a number of their players And that's going to continue. Like right now, it's the gauge process. It's the feeling out who might be available.

Who might you consider what could be the price tags tied to some of these assets? Right. And then let's see if you can, you know, get on a heater or vice versa before we really start to ignite some of these conversations. Nice win for Calgary yesterday. Yep. Now, can they build off that? So I suspect we're going to continue to hear some names. Now, the interesting thing that I've heard over the last 24 hours with respect to Calgary,

prior to their win against San Jose yesterday was if one domino falls, how many more will follow because of how tight that group is in Calgary? It's a pretty tight group in that room. And if one guy goes and another says, yeah, you know what, I might be willing to explore that as well, there are some guys with no trade protection, how is that going to affect some of the other guys on that team? and how many guys, if they are going through a rebuild retool that have two, three, four, five years left on their contract,

how many years of those do they want to go through that rebuild process? So this may have an interesting trickle effect if they just, if they blow it up. But I don't know if that's, I don't think they're there yet. St. Louis is currently willing to listen across the board. Can we pause on Calgary? Just for one, I just want to throw one. one sort of, not a wild card, but I mean, a reality into this mix as well.

One of the cautionary tales out there, and again, you can't plan for it. Like, the games just take you where they go. But I can't help but thinking that Detroit is a cautionary tale here with the rink. You know, there's nothing worse than having, and well, there are a lot of things worse, but one of the worst things you can have is a brand new rank

and you don't get to show it off in the playoffs. And for the Red Wrens, it's been a while. considering Calgary has a new building coming in a couple of years, how important is it in ownership's mind, let alone management, that by the time they open this new rink, the season better not be ending in mid-April? Is that a mitigating factor? Are they trying to sort of time this so the team is good again

when the new building doors open? Yes. Short answer is yes. And I'm glad you differentiated between management and ownership because it's definitely more of consideration from Murray Edwards and the group there, where you want to have some type of competitive team on the ice to open up the new barn. But given how this team is performing, and they may not need to go on a full-on rebuild, this may be opportunistic for them right now because of the upcoming draft in the summer,

how much talent is tied to it, even if you don't win first overall. Those first four or five picks are projected to be pretty significant assets. So do you take your chance now to kind of blow this up a little bit for this season and then get your rebuild slash or excuse me, retool starting in the offseason. There are a lot of pieces that they have here that are going to be interesting. Like for example, and this is just an example from my end, McKenzie Weeger, continuously very underrated, very good talent, as a full no trade or no move, one of the two. no indication from my understanding that he would even consider it right now.

But I'm curious, Anderson goes, maybe Coleman goes, maybe Cadry goes. Where does that then put his mind with respect to having, I think he's signed through 2031, does he want to go through the next two, three years of that before they get competitive again? Or would he consider his options? And again, this is just an example. but I would imagine if that caliber player becomes available

you're getting a pretty good return pretty significant return for that kind of piece so there are a lot of different factors and variables that come into play with respect to you know Calgary's decision making with respect again to when they're going to do something in terms of selling off pieces but without question the new arena is a factor in all of this

Look, Mikhail Backlin signed a two-year extension because he wanted to be part of the club and wanted to be there when they introduced the new building. They want to be competitive, obviously, but sometimes you have to just look at what you've got and look at the cards that you've been dealt and go, I'm going to have to fold this round. St. Louis, I've been wondering when we start to hear more about Braden Shen. Now, St. Louis, first of all, the St. Louis issues, there's a couple, there's a couple of major ones. The goalies are hard to hit, and the defensemen are having a hard time defending. That is a recipe for absolute disaster.

Now, Pavel Bushnevich, even by his own admission, has been awful. He's had a really bad start to his season. He was asked about his season. and said, maybe a couple of penalty kills I've been good on, but other than that, I've been, I've been awful. Jordan Kairu sat down. At what point do we start to hear some St. Louis names, wiggle out?

Well, according to teams, you know, Doug Armstrong and Alex Dean are just waiting. They're having conversations. They're waiting to see what opportunities pop up and what the best opportunities are going to be. You know, Braden Shen, absolutely, is an attractive piece for a lot of content. vendors. Justin Falk is an attractive piece for other teams looking to shore up that back end.

Both players have 15-team no trade lists and some term. It's not like these are going to be rental properties. These are going to be pieces that can help you now and next year. Kairu, Bursnavich, et cetera. Some of these guys have no trade. Now, the interesting thing about Kyru, you know, he was brought up last season. He was brought up in the summer. He was brought up around the draft, summer being around the draft. And then his no trade kicked in. That hasn't really stopped those discussions. I don't think there's been, I don't think they've gotten to the point where they've gotten to him and said, look, we're getting some calls here. We just want to know what options may be available to us.

Would you consider supplying a list? I don't know if that's happened. I don't get the sense yet. I still think that's a little premature. But talking to some people around the league, they're at least willing to entertain inquiries about it. I think they're open to a variety of different possibilities. When they pull the trigger, anybody's guess at this point, but they are active and there are teams that are looking going, look, I think this guy would be a hell of a lot better on our team and help us out. One of the reasons Braden Shent didn't want to leave last year because they were in the thick

of things in the playoffs, he's the captain. He didn't want to abandon his team. They made the playoffs, mission accomplished, totally different scenario now. Let me quickly before we get to the Toronto Maple Leafs. I want to throw something in about Nashville. So they're in Sweden for the global series against the penguins. I was telling the story on Secarison Price. You know, I'm old enough to recall.

I think it was 2008. So not that old. When Tampa was playing the Rangers in Prague. And Shane O'Brien played the first game and was scratched the second game. And by the time he landed in Tampa, he was a Vancouver Canuck. And there was a plane waiting for him. So I do wonder if, you know, after these two games, when the Nashville Predators make their way back to Nashville, if when they land, there's a plane waiting to take someone somewhere.

And I want to throw, just for anyone watching and listening to this one, there's another wrinkle in all the discussion about Stephen Stamco's, and Vancouver, Montreal, or wherever, Stephen Stamco's could be, could be attractive or find a home here. And I'll go back to the Ryan Ellis example. Ryan Ellis never had a no trade. And he ended up going from Nashville to the Philadelphia Flyers. from a no-tax state to Pennsylvania, which obviously has state tax.

And so he took a pay cut. And that happens. It happens all the time. Different states have different levels of taxation. For someone like Stephen Stamcoast, if you're asking him to waive a no trade to go from a no-tax state to a place that does have a state tax, essentially what you're asking him to do is go somewhere and get paid less. Yep. You know, that exchange, what you're asking for is give me. something not just in exchange for nothing, but give me something in exchange for nothing and

you making less money. How much of a complicating factor do you think that is in any type of Stephen Stamco's discussion? It's a great point. The finances are a big factor in all this. Nashville, if they do move Stephen Stamco's, they're going to have to eat. So he's going to lose a little bit on the exchange, from a tax perspective. And he'll be paid still partially out of Nashville if that's the case. So it's not going to be a full blow. But that is certainly a factor. Now, how much Nashville is willing to retain on a deal is another mitigating factor in all

of this. I don't think they're going to go full pop in terms of 50%. But if they do, the returns better. If they do, they get a bigger return. That's the other factor. But I don't. know I don't know if they want to go to that to that level now maybe it's less maybe it's three maybe it's two is Stephen Stamco's much more appealing at five million or five and a half versus

versus eight I would imagine so a lot of teams also view him as a winger as opposed to a center now I think that's safe to say yeah for sure so yeah so so that's going to be that's the other factor in all of this I do think both Stamcoastas so are willing will be willing to move to a top-tier contender. I don't think it's now because I don't think that anything is happening now other than just, again, due diligence process. But I do think that is something in their minds,

even though they love it there, families love it there. I still think from everything that I've gathered so far that there would be, and that there is a willingness if it's a legit top tier contender. And not just this season, duration of their contracts. Stammer's got two more years, Marci has three. so we'll see kind of where that factors in but absolutely the dollars come into play

Ryan O'Reilly does not have a no trade clause but they're going to do him a solid in terms of hey look here are the teams that are going to be interested or are interested you know you're cool with all these like they're not going to send them to respectfully Buffalo or Calgary because they're near the bottom in their divisions but he's going to go to a contender I do believe and he's got one more year I do believe he's a prime candidate to move this season and I'm anticipating it. The curious one for me is Stamco's slash Marsha. But a lot of it has to do with the finances.

How much is, is Nashville willing to retain? Yeah. What are the options available to these guys? And yes, the state tax, no state tax, lowest state tax, is all going to factor in, I would imagine. I remember talking to Bobby Holick once, told the story the other day. And I said, what was the difference between you in New Jersey and you in New York?

It was so great in New Jersey and it didn't work out at all in New York. And he said, Jeff, it's like this. If Bobby Hulik is your third line center, we're going to win the Stanley Cup. If Bobby Holicke is your first line center, we're not going to win the Stanley Cup. And that's why we won the Stanley Cup in New Jersey. And just as a quick aside, by the way, when he drank the champagne from the Stanley Cup, that was the first time in his life he had tasted alcohol. That was his first sip of alcohol in his entire life was out of the Stanley Cup.

Anyhow, I said, how was he goes, I didn't like it. He's not a drinker. So, but I phrase it that way, Dave, because there's one team that to me is intriguing in the idea. of if Holik is your third line center, but we're going to win the cup. If he's your first line center, we're not going to win the cup. New Jersey Devils.

And this is a team, and we've talked about this a couple weeks ago, I think, that they're looking. They are, I think, more engaged from a complimentary standpoint, but if an opportunity arises to go fishing for a bigger fish, I don't see a scenario

where Tom Fitzgerald does not at least have a conversation. I think he's going to be, and I've mentioned this before, Utah, Carolina, Ottawa, the HABs to an extent, the ducks to an extent. I think last week we talked about it. I throw New Jersey in that mix, at least from the exploratory side of things. If there's a big fish, I think they're going to be in there in some capacity.

This is a really good team. And I think the up, I think they feel right, so probably that the opportunity to pounce is now so can you get a complimentary piece probably do you want to swing or aim a little higher i don't think that's out of the realm of possibility at all um now to what extent i mentioned that earlier this week with respect to like dougie hamilton's name has been out there it was out there in the summer he's you know he's got nine million he's got a 10 team list i don't know if they go to that extreme and i think those conversations are going to pop up every now and again with some teams looking.

I don't know if they go move out nine, bring in nine in terms of AAB or cap hit. But I do think they're going to consider all of their possibilities with respect to insulating this roster even further to bring them to championship pedigree. Makes sense. Quickly, I mentioned a second ago, anything, you got like a hot 60 on the Maple Leafs? Where are they at? What a reaction. Hang on, Zach, there's the promo.

It's a little rough there. I was not bad game yesterday. Oh, man. Yeah, that's a tough one. If it wasn't two nothing for them right out of the gate, it would have been a complete blowout. They're struggling. They're hurting.

They can't figure it out. Craig Brubet said this morning, we're going to climb over this wall. We just got to get there and, okay, that's great. But you got to get there. And now they're depleted. You know, Matthews is out, Stolar's out. They got a lot of injuries.

The short of it is they've been looking. They've been looking for a puck mover on the back end. That seems to be amplified a little bit more. I know all the Rasmus Anderson stuff came out in the last 24, 48 hours. If anything, I think they just poked again. But this was something they explored before, and it hasn't really gotten there. And a top six guy. You know, they've been looking for that since the summer.

But those are the two areas. The issue with them is they don't have, camp off the books, I think they're at 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, something in that world of cap space right now. They need more if they're going to make an impact type of move, which is why Domi and Carlo's name are out there and they've been floating around and whatnot. They're going to have to get a little bit creative. You know, if you're adding to the back end in terms of puck movers and you're looking to move a body out in a fully healthy top six, it's either going to be Benoit or Carlo and in order to make the money work you know Carlo seems to be that

that potential casualty from from that side of things and he's got another year left on his contract so right it does open up possibilities but the lease are looking um obviously they'd love to find the the answer internally but with with injuries right now you look at this lineup you're going Ooh, that's, that's not top tier. Yeah, no, that keeps you up with that as a general manager for sure. Dave, you're great. Thanks as always for stopping by. Have a great weekend and we'll touch base in seven days.

Beauty, can't wait. There he is. Dave Panyoda from the fourth period, daily faceoff insider around these parts. By the way, Zach, Dave just mentioned Dougie Hamilton there a second ago. You know what I love about Dougie Hamilton? More so what I love about Dougie Hamilton's parents. Okay. They called the kids Dougie and Freddie.

Not Doug and Fred. Dougie Hamilton is, it's like, that's like a nickname. Like they're both athletes, right? His mom and dad are both athletes was Dougie and Freddie Hamilton. This is what everyone's going to call you anyways. We're going to get ahead of it. Yeah, we're just going to get you. You're going to be an NHLer.

Here's a deal. We're just kidding. Your nickname is going to be your name. What's your name? Dougie. Oh, you mean, Doug? No. Dougie.

You know that... There's my birth certificate. Well, I know you don't watch football, but, like, there's the theory that, like, some names just make the quarterbacks more likely to be football players because they're the name associated. You know, like, Baker Mayfield. Like, it works. That's a football quarterback. Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, they work.

That's names. But if they were, like, Joe Smith is like, like, you know. he's good doesn't jump off the page it's like well yeah his name's baker mayfield that's why he stands out they're like dog hamilton you know what okay i'll give you i'll give you a boring i'll give you a boring sports name for one of the greats of all time larry joe bird the most boring name larry joe bird I guess I guess

Well so Larry Bird Has got a ring to Like it's got a It does It does It does it does It does it does It does kind of flow

A couple of things here Before we get to hungry For hockey history Anything jump out of you From Andy I thought there were a couple Like little Flavor Pucks in there

Maybe that you'd like Well I mean first of all The guys in the intermissions I thought was funny And then Codry sitting there waiting So good Always just being ready for a quick

quote is pretty funny uh you know talking about the guys who are nervous it's one thing we always make fun of where you see players and it's well you've dealt with it i just watched it but you experience it firsthand oh you know puck's in deep you know all our answers are in that room yeah great bunch of guys man for man we're better than any team in this league somebody says something and now you get guys who give you a little bit of a quote and i think some of that does come with maturity which is funny um but also just like the mentorship uh of things i i know we make fun of him uh but alberga uh now you as well asked me a lot but alberg has helped you ton this point yeah just kind of good you know even someone like

dealing with the ups and downs of a season and handling how you kind of report on things and uh you know go about doing shows and stuff like that and getting guests and working through that it's like having those people in your corner where it's like hey maybe i don't know stuff rather than being left out being like here kids sink or swim There's somebody there who's maybe at least thrown a little guiding light being like, go that way, like, do this. It's nice. And it's interesting to kind of see those people like step up and help and how has helped me a lot as well. You know, Brian Burke, the first big deal that he made when he's a GM of the Hartford Whalers, he told me he's like, I was in my office,

I'm trading Bobby Holie to the Hartford Whalers. We're getting Sean Burke and Eric Weinrich. And he goes, so I pick up the phone. phone it's going to call Lou in New Jersey and I started dialing and I put the phone down I stood up walked around the office a little bit just like okay okay hi he goes I had no one to talk to about this I had no it's just me and the phone I got to call Lou to make this deal I pick up the phone again and I start to dial hang up the phone again go for a walk around the block I can't he goes because I had no one to want to lean on I had no one to call to say like how do I how do I do this

How do I approach us? How do I make this deal? It goes, it was just him and his brain and the phone. That's it. Now that's all different. Now everybody has like a massive staff and you have meetings and everybody weigh in on this one and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But back then he said, now there's projections on your computer that tell you like a value of a player and what you should be getting back. Yes.

Then it's, and I mean, it's the most respectful way, but it's just burkey and just being like, I fucking believe in this guy. We need a goalie, Sean Burke, let's go. We need another defense with Eric Weinrich, let's go. Now there's like an associated value to every player and pay and what they should be returning before it's just Berkey and vibes. And he's like, this is what I think we need. Could you imagine what would have been like, Cliff Ledger and Doug Reisbrow to put to that monster, Maple Leafs, Calgary Flames, Doug Gilmore and Gary Lehman monstrosity together

Like it's just like so many players Like if you would have just like removed one If you just removed like Kent Manderville With the whole trade of just fall out of power Like no way man This whole thing is gonna is gonna hinge on Oh no who gets to keep or get Kent Manderville We talked about it with Berkey when

It was around the trade deadline last year When we saw there was a there was a trade that came through And both you and I were like Well we get it why it was put in there But what the hell was that for like fifth round pick for like in two years from now like what what was that and then we talked to burkey and he's like ha you just throw it in there like i'm paraphrasing and he said it better than i am but it basically was like oh you're just throwing it in there like to throw it in there i remember

putting it in i remember um i remember i remember mike keenan telling me i remember asked him about the denny savard deal denisovar chrys and there was a second round pick that montreal sent to Chicago, I hope I have this right, that Montreal sent to Chicago and it did the deal. And then Serge called him back and said, I know we've already registered the deal,

but my owner says, we need to get this, we need to get one of these picks back. And Mike's like, we've already registered the deal. Like, we can't go back. And Serge's like, oh, my owner's going to kill me.

And he goes, okay, tell you what, we're going to do another deal. We'll do a separate deal. And I'm going to throw in a second round pick. And that'll tell your owner, Like, that's going to keep him happy for this way. It'll be for another deal, but just so your owner is happy, there's going to be a second round pick that you get in a subsequent deal.

Now, here's where it gets interesting. Both guys got fired before they could finish that deal. So I've always said, the Chicago Blackhawks still owe Montreal Canadians a second round pick. They never got sent to the haves. Kyle Davidson, call Kent now. Say you owe me Chicago owes Chicago

I can't rather Should call up Call up the Chicago Blackhawks Kyle Davidson Hey You guys still owe us a second round pick Let's go make with the second Come on now

This goes back to the Cheleos of our deal Imagine the scrutiny That takes place nowadays If you see something like that Like slide through Like let's say that A scenario takes place now They don't go to the registry

And try to change it Or like it's gone through whatever and then it's like Chicago trades somebody who's maybe you know like a depth piece to Montreal who's worth a depth piece yeah oh and a second round pick like what and the outrage

where the fuck did that come from oh that's the cellio steal cellio it's the guy that's on the panel that trade's still in that that's trade still in play for that pick yeah who climbed out of the tanning bed this morning?

That guy, yeah. The guy that just said the garbage bag on the bike in the sauna? That guy? Cellio's the victim of the greatest YouTube video of all time. Oh, man. So good. You old fuck. Oh, man.

That is so good. Just savage. Just savage. All right. On that one, let's wrap up and let everyone get their weekend going here. Hungry for Hockey History is a presentation of Uber Eats. Uber Eats is enabling fans to maximize their fandom all season long with exclusive game day deals on the app.

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I got to remember that one trademark that one Zach what do you got today for hungry for hockey history yeah we got a few different ones here today I feel like we've had a significant goalie theme over the last little while

but for today we're going to go back to 1971 Jerry Cheever's begins an NHL record 32 game unbeaten streak goes 24 and 0 with eight ties. Ties, notice, ties. Not neck ties, it's ties. Ties.

I did you see, hang on, did you see Brody Brazil put the video out yesterday? Yes, I did. Brody. That's good. So good. I put together some clips this weekend and try to include that in it.

Beautiful. Beautiful. Also, I know we're abusing people's time, but just said note, yesterday after the show just for fun I put in into chat GPT

to prompt like what what was talked about with Drew Remenda yesterday and it spat back out neckties I just transcribed the Drew part

and said what was discussed in this segment and it said sharks celebrating yada yada yada neckties and I went

Did it also say that we talked about ice hockey uh no did it say we talked about the slot area we talked about a good goal okay we got more to get i was really tempted by i was really tempted by the way i was this close to doing i'm like i don't need the the bullshit last night um i was really tempted to say after review uh gave landa scog was it was was after review i can't remember how the tweet was going to go something along the lines of gave land uh the uh the play was ruled bad goal

But Gabe Landis God had his goal called back yesterday on the goaltender interference. So somebody brought this up and I agree with them. The thing, I think it might have been J. Rock, actually. The thing is, there can be a bad goal. Like the make beliefs right now are giving up a lot of bad goals. Again, that is a value judgment on that goal. 100% there can be a bad goal and there can be a good goal, but not in the context of did the goal go in or not.

It is either a goal or it is not a goal. It could also be a beautiful goal. It could be an ugly goal. It could be a splendid goal. Right. You're saying the first evaluation is goal or no goal? That's it. It's either goal or it's not a goal.

Then you're just flowering it up. English is a stupid language. We speak the dumbest language. There's like so many empty calorie words in terms that we all seem to be fine with. But having said that, I know like a little bit of French and I know like no other languages, so I'm talking out of my ass.

I really don't know if other languages are as dumb as ours. But I digress. Hey, Brett Hall's on here too. Yeah, 1998, Brett Hall reached 1,000 NHL points with two goals and an assist and a 3-1 win over Boston. And then in 2001, Patrick Waugh becomes the first goalie in NHL history to earn 200 victories with two different teams, Montreal, Colorado, obviously, in a 1-0-0 win over Minnesota.

What if, again, the great what-if, and he was traded four days later to the Colorado Avalanche. What if Mario Trombly, again, sliding door a moment, what if Mario Trombly had pulled Patrick Waugh after like the third goal? Did the avalanche win those cups? No. They don't. or what would have happened if because the first deal again this was Keenan telling me this

the first deal that was offered was a one for one was Patrick Gua for Eddie Belfour Chicago does Colorado ever win those cups huh something for you to think about this weekend yeah

Habs didn't recover from that trade and the Colorado avalanche went on to win two Stanley Cups. Wrap up the show with this, as we always do. I'm curious to see what you come up with on this one. By the way, you had Byfield last night, didn't you? Yeah, I did. I did.

I bet all those things separately on my own. Oh, yeah? Corey Perry just missed the net in the second period. He almost had a tying goal in the third period, and I was sitting there shaking my fist, but I did have byfields. So that was nice. The sheet is. Powered by Fanduel.

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to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2,600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. What are you serving up to take us into the weekend? Tonight I just have goal scores that I'm looking at here. It's not necessarily a parlay. If you want to parlay them, go ahead. But just digging around the NHL right now, four games tonight. Pittsburgh at Nashville, Vancouver, at Carolina, Philly at St. Louis and the Islanders at Utah here tonight, by the way,

a couple of fun quotes coming out of Utah and some players who may have swapped teams over the last couple of days. Getting hot-miked and all of them. Yes. It's been fun for them. Yeah. But goal scores that I was looking at here tonight.

Pittsburgh, Nashville, by the way, is Global Series. Yes, yes, correct. You tell me, I'm just going to go one at a time. I'm not asking if these are good bets or not. I'm just going to ask you. I ask if it's good goal, good goal or bad goal. Good goal or bad goal. Okay, come on.

Are they scoring or are they not? Okay, Jeff Merrick. Okay. Starting with Kyler Yamamoto. Kyler Yamamoto, every time I feel like I am seeing some type of highlight, there's Kyler Yamamoto involved. I'm not saying he's scoring in the highlights, okay? but I've noticed him a lot more.

I'm noticing him and his name pop-up on social media. We've got the best number across every sports book right now, plus 625, Kyler Yamamoto against the Islanders. Yes, or no? He's due! I'll take Calder Yamamoto to score. Yes, let's go. I was thinking the same thing.

Why not, man? Come on. That one. Come on, man. Love Cali Yamamoto and Junior. Come on, man. Okay. This one is where it gets a little tough.

I've got two more for you So this one and then one more This one where it gets a little tough Because of who they're playing Okay Quinn Hughes To score tonight Against the Carolina Hurricanes

I just feel like We got a Grumpy Discruntled Unhappy Whatever adjective you want to use To describe the guy And what's happening

If it were anyone Other than Carolina They just play like Such a like Boa Constrictor type game and they just like squeeze you if it were another team i might say yes but no can't do it okay uh that's fair and that was the that was the concern i had as well i was like plus 575 i like it but i know i'm gonna stick i'm gonna stick in the same game okay okay um

i'm not laughing at him i just can't believe we've gotten to this point Cawkenyemi plus 725 for him to score against the Vancouver Canucks in the same game tonight. Yisperi Kockeniami. What is it?

Are the numbers for it? Plus 725. He's got two goals, three assists on the year. Yeah. I just laughing. I'm not laughing at him.

I don't like how. I know. I don't like. Halenkinin's playing, so I'll say, yeah. Yeah, that was my thought. I'm like, I thought he was going to score against the Leafs on Sunday. I'm like, so my girlfriend goes, she's like, well, who do you think is going to score? I'm like, cocky and he looks at him up.

She's like, well, he hasn't really scored this year. I'm like, well, that's the point. Everybody scores against the loss. It's the whole idea. Like, he's a lot of averages. Like, he's going to get one. It's got to go in off his hip or his butt or something like that, something. we shall see we shall watch and as I mentioned off the top there

Pittsburgh Nashville in the global series enjoy that Zach enjoy your weekend and thanks to Dave Panjota for stopping by each and every Friday here on the show thanks to the great Andy Petrello I will plug it again such a fun read just call me Andy sports stories from a trailblazer thanks to Andy Petrello

for stopping by the show today thanks to you for watching listening interacting subscribing all those fun things that we love that you do here at Daily Faceoff, much appreciated. Have an enjoyable weekend. Hope it's filled with hockey, either driving your kids,

playing beer league, or just watching from your couch, ironing the couch with your ass, and watching hockey games. Enjoy all of it. We are back Monday for more of the sheet. Have a great weekend. last night every day this week every day this month I can't get out my head lost all ambitions day to day

because you can call it all right I went to the dark man and tried to give me a little medicine I'm like now and that's fine I'm not against those methods but new it's me myself and how this gonna be fixed in my mind I do on the bracket, I turned on the music. I do want to break it up, I'll turn on the music. They're standing up there, I don't get you sometimes losing. Have been on the days that we're wrong.