The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Official Statements, Trade Market, and the Olympic Break Approaching ft. David Pagnotta

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

Today on The Sheet, Jeff Marek is joined by David Pagnotta for a wide-ranging look at everything happening around the National Hockey League as the news cycle continues to accelerate. The show opens with a deep dive into the situation in Ottawa, breaking down the public statement from Steve Staios and how online speculation and rumors spiraled before forcing a response from the Ottawa Senators organization. From there, Marek and Pagnotta shift to the player market, discussing the current availability and league-wide interest surrounding Kiefer Sherwood, Dougie Hamilton, Alex Tuch, and Rasmus Andersson, and what their situations could mean as teams evaluate roster needs and trade options. The episode wraps up with listener voicemails and emails, as The Sheet community weighs in with questions, takes, and storylines from across the hockey world. Make sure to subscribe, drop your thoughts in the comments, and join the conversation as The Sheet continues to track the biggest stories across the NHL.SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff#TheSheet #JeffMarek #DavidPagnotta #NHL #NHLNews #NHLRumors #Hockey #OttawaSenators #SteveStaios #DailyFaceoff #NHLTrades #HockeyPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh, hello everybody. Welcome once again to the sheet for this Friday, January the night, wrapping up your week. And what an interesting week it's turned into here. It seems like every week is like 24 hours, or rather every day is 24 hours of drama in the NHL. This season end today and yesterday, it was certainly drama-filled. And we're going to get to that with Dave Panyoda here coming up in a couple of moments. We have a lot to get to today. We're going to get to some of your questions as well.

comments either on the sheet line or on our email as well. And we'll take some questions from the chat. We had actually Jessica asking where Dave Lozo is or I miss Dave Lozo. We're talking about Greg Woshensky and we used to do MBSW podcast. And Lozo was a regular guest and a regular contributor to Yahoo. I'm going to try to find out. I just sent Greg a note to find out where Dave Lozo is these days. Anyhow, plenty to get to on today's program. Thanks so much for joining us. As I mentioned, Dave Peña is going to be stopping by here in a couple of moments. So let's really get started here without me doing any sort of preamble to all of this. The sheet and the blueprints are powered by Fanduel.

Download the app today and play your game. Coming up on the show, Dave Panyoda. For the DFO Insiders, along with Earth Fangafar, Wednesdays 3 o'clock Eastern, right here on our daily face-off YouTube channel. We'll talk about the Ottawa Senators and everything both on and off the ice, involving the team in the Canadian national and the Canadian capital. We'll talk a little bit more about the Winnipeg Jets and their situation. It is now at 11 games after they dropped the tough one to the Edmonton Oilers last night squandering a lead.

What's next for the Jets? What can be next? We'll talk about trade buzz with Dave Panyota from all over the NHL from the New Jersey Devils to the Carolina Hurricanes, maybe to the Ottawa Senators as well. And as the blueprint says, we'll take some questions from the sheet line as well. So get on that one and have your voice heard. Zach, you let me know when Dave is standing by. In the meantime, if we can fire up the Steve Steyos press release that came out yesterday,

there's a lot of different ways to go with this one. And I have about zero desire to pry into the private lives of someone who's on personal leave right now from the Ottawa senators. And that is, of course, Linus Allmark. This from Steve Steyos yesterday, president of hockey operations and general manager. Our organization was extremely disappointed to reach. the completely fabricated and false stories that are spreading around social media about our hockey club. Linus is away from our team for personal reasons and he has the entire organization's support. We ask that people respect his privacy, but clearly that request was not heard by the lowest forms of trolls and sick people who scoured the internet.

We are disgusted that outside forces are attempting to disrupt our hockey club. this statement will put an end to the ridiculous speculation that has spread online. I'm not sure that that last line is accurate. If anything, it has fueled further discussion and by the very nature of having it put out, it becomes a talking point on programs like this and other programs and other social media forums. There's a phrase, strice hand effect, which means essentially bringing attention

to something that otherwise would have flown under the radar, and that is this situation right now with the Ottawa senators, who, by the way, have signed James Reimer. So an HLPTO pending a contract, Linus Almark put on non-roster status. He's off the website,

just for a matter of, of facts as we move forward through this story here with the Ottawa Senators. A tough night for Ottawa yesterday. They got rubbed by the Colorado Avalanche. Everybody gets beaten up by the Colorado Avalanche. That's not necessarily the story with the Ottawa senators right now. Tim Stutzla getting in a fight with Sam Gerard yesterday. That sort of frustration boiling over. And of all people, Tim Stutzelah decides he's had enough and he's going to take things into his own hands. I can understand I can understand

Steve Steyos's frustration and anger I can understand the organization's frustration and anger things are written about teams things are written about

people all the time this one rose to a certain level for the Ottawa senators that obviously led Steyos and perhaps people above and maybe even going as high as ownership to

release that statement knowing full well because Steve is not a stupid person. Like Steve understands that by putting that out, what's going to happen afterwards, you know that there's going to be, you know, not more scrutiny, but more awareness that there is an issue online

with the Ottawa senators because, quite frankly, there were probably a lot of people. I don't assume that everybody lives online, first of all. There are probably a lot of people that didn't even know that this was a story. until Steya has put this out.

But I do get the frustration and I do sympathize with the anger about a player going on personal leave and people not respecting that privacy. Is it a comment on the society we live in? Is it a comment on the nature of social media? Probably a comment on all of it. But no matter what is happening right now

with the Ottawa senators, this is an organization that was, I don't know, should we say shaken enough that they felt they needed to release something. And that's what they did last night with the Steve Seos open letter. Okay, let's bring on board Dave Pan Yota

for more on what's happening with the Ottawa senators and other teams around the NHL from the fourth period. DFO Insiders Edition with Earth Fang Gafar. By the way, really, really great interview with the Islanders general manager, Matthew Darsh, this week. I really enjoyed that one. He's a, first of all,

he's a great talker, You and Earth did a great job with that one. If people haven't gone, I haven't listened to it yet. I encourage you to go back and listen to, listen to Matthew Darsh, talk about redoing the Islanders. And I thought his talk about his marketing background was particularly interesting to. If there was a team in the NHL that needed someone with a marketing touch, it is very clearly,

um, okay. So the Ottawa Senator's situation. Um, it's not good. And we saw the note last night. I was mentioning it before he came on. The note from Steve Staeos, and I don't think that the last line about this being, bringing a close to the matter,

I don't think that was accurate. Everything else I can understand the anger and the frustration. I just don't know that putting this out was going to do anything other than inflame a situation that has already made everybody in the organization uncomfortable. Would you agree with that? Yeah. I didn't think it was necessary.

You know, you were just talking about it before I jumped on just with the level of the internet itself and everybody just spewing all kinds of things out there. You're almost better, you know, not necessarily sweep it under the rug, but you just, you don't need to acknowledge it. If you're so adamant that everything that's being tossed out there is BS, just let it go. You don't, I don't think it was, I don't think it was necessary. Now, I understand why, you know, they'd want to put something out with respect to some of the messaging in it. I agree with you. I think the first bit, the first part of that, of that statement to me made sense. But I just, again, I didn't find it necessary. Now, there have been a lot of rumors and there has been a lot of speculation surrounding Allmark and his personal leave and has the relationship with the organization been strained in some fashion for whatever it is. And it sounds like that's been, that's the case. And there are some other teams that I've talked to that have heard, you know, he's not necessarily out there in terms of being available, but they've heard his name kind of bandied about.

So, you know, you see that, you hear that, then you see the personal leave. And then all this, all the internet BS that's going out there all over the place. It just all adds up and everyone just starts to connect dots. And it becomes, you know, some of these stories can become. a little believable. But again, from an organizational perspective, I don't think it was needed to address it unless this thing comes out in media and we're talking about this and others are reporting things. And then you've got to nip that in the butt clearly. But I agree with you. I think this is more of a situation where this might have put more attention on a matter that was

obviously not their intent. Yeah. There is like the whole thing just feels strange because, you know, to your point, and this is a point that that many have made too, teams and people hear this all the time about themselves, whether it's the organization or people like rumors and someone grabs something and no one's stopping anybody from saying whatever they want on social media. How much weight you put behind it, that's your own personal decision. But obviously this rose to a certain level within the organization that it got, whether it's Steyos, whether it's the owner of Michael and Lauer, whether it's

key players on the team upset to the point where Steve Stoes felt that he had to put that message out last night, which if you're going to play Connect the Dots, it's like, well, why did this one rise to that level where other

crazy things that we see and hear don't? You know what I mean? Right. And that's... Any team hears this all the time. And players hear this stuff all the, all the, the time too, crazy rumors. But what is it about this one specific?

I mean, my point through all of it was it's just perhaps the enigmatic, maybe that's a poor choice of words, but I'll use it, enigmatic situation revolving around Linus Allmark in this situation. He's on personal leave. I'm going to obviously, everyone should respect that. That is his choice. But, you know, even Darren Dregor most recently just saying like, you know, this is weird. It's a weird situation, you know, at games, these types of things.

Like something just seems really off in this situation, Dave. Yeah, and this goes back to what I mentioned earlier. You know, I had heard, and I just, I didn't just hear it this week. I've heard this when he went on personally, even a little bit prior, that there's been a little bit of tension with respect to his relationship and the club. I don't know the specifics. I don't know if it's, you know, him, him not seeing eye to eye with some team. I don't know if it's whatever's out there.

I don't know the specifics on it, but I had heard over the last few weeks going prior to his personal leave that maybe the relationship's been strained a little bit. Maybe it needs a little bit of mending. And then, you know, he's out there. You start to hear his name a little bit. Then he's got personal leave. And even yesterday, checking in with a couple of different clubs, if you heard anything, his name being out there.

Yeah, we've heard it. We don't know how, you know, serious it is. But, you know, his name is starting to make the swirl. around anyway. And then you get all the internet stuff coming out and then the statement and whatnot. You're right. I think it did get to a level where it was discussed, evidently, quite seriously, within the organization that they felt that they needed to address it in some capacity.

Some teams go about it and say, we're going to close the door, we're going to have this talk in the room, and we're going to bury the hatchet or just bury whatever is out there and just make sure that everybody's comfortable, who cares what's being. spread on Twitter on whatever. But, you know, it's a sensitive topic, especially with all the claims and accusations that were made in it. It's a very serious matter, certainly. And you hope that's certainly not the case.

But I don't think that all that stuff yesterday really, to me anyway, puts a cloud over the, or hides the fact, I should say, that his name had been swirling around the league for the last few weeks. weeks. So this happens yesterday, obviously, before the game where the Ottawa senators are playing the Colorado Avalanche. It's a pretty bad beating, as I mentioned up at the top, like Colorado, you know, dummies a lot of teams. You know, I put it this way. If Colorado, if Colorado dummies you, don't feel special. That's what I said. The avalanche dummy don't don't feel special. And the Ottawa senators find themselves in a position in the standings in the Eastern Conference that

they did not expect. This was not supposed to be this year after last year meeting trying to make beliefs in the opening round of the playoffs and giving them a good run. Things were supposed to be different this season, yet they find themselves in a similar situation that they found themselves in. Over the past few seasons, James Reimer sounds in HL PTO pending an NHL contract, Lina Sallmark, non-roster status, off the website, etc. And as we're reminded, this is the year they have to surrender the first round pick for the Doddanov. situation. They've pushed it to this season. And I don't know, but I can't help but thinking all of this

in concert. So I'm trying to figure out again, like the motivation with Steve St.deos and a lot of the frustration that that comes along with that. It just seemed like this was this sort of storm that culminated with that missive last night from the Ottawa Senator's general manager. Yeah. And look, he's been he's been looking, I think we talked about this earlier on in the season. He's looking out there. He's been trying to see what's been available. He'd like to make a big addition to this club. And when you're focused on doing that and the team's starting to struggle a little bit and you've got all this outside noise coming in, I'm sure he's got to be frustrated by all of this too. It's a perfect storm for him as well where he's having to deal with this

BS when he's trying to focus on helping the team in other areas and by potentially adding to the group. They're not doing themselves any favors and they're not doing him any favors with the way they're playing lately. So, you know, that needs to improve, certainly. But again, Colorado, you just toss that aside, hope that you can rebound for the next one. But, you know, he's been looking. He's been looking to try to bring in another impact player for this club. I've heard it's more upfront than on the back end, but he's exploring every avenue.

And now you've got to deal with this little sidebar issue. And I'm sure this is the last thing he wanted to deal with. You think they need to look for a goalie now. I think that's one of the things that we're all wondering as well. Yeah. Through all, like just like outside of the personal situation with Linus Allmark, there's a goalie issue now with the Ottawa Senators. Like, listen, we just saw James Reimer playing at, you know, the Spangler Cup.

Okay. And like James Reimer, as we saw with the Buffalo Sabres, can have like some short-term magic for a team. We've seen them do it before, right? This isn't a new movie, but does this put, and maybe it's too early to tell, but does this put Ottawa on the goalie market? Well, I mean, look, with Reimer, he kept in shape for most of the season to this point and then obviously joins Canada for the Spangler. I don't think he anticipated this opportunity popping up, but he was making sure that he was going to be ready in the event that a team needs another goaltender for a stretch run and so on and so on. So he gets an opportunity here.

And I guess his contract will be official with the Sends in the next few days after his HL PTO. But it's valid question. Like, do the senators now? Because there's no, there's no said timeline on when Allmark may return. And I don't know if all the, all the speculation and stuff that was put out on social media yesterday has affected any of that or affected any potential timeline. But it is a valid point. Are the Sends now going to have to be in a position where, A, they're going to have to replace them in some capacity for the duration of this season. What does this mean for, again, the teams that I spoke to over the last few weeks that heard Allmark's name swirling around, do they consider packaging him up?

Or are teams going to say, well, wait, we want to make sure that whatever he's dealing with is resolved before we go in a direction to make a move to bring him into our club, to improve. our goaltending even further. So it's, it's not a balancing, it's, it is a balancing act, but not one that Steve Stales, I think, wanted to deal with right now while he's also looking at other areas to improve the club. It's, it's not a, you know, envious position to be in right now. Tough one. Really is.

Okay, move along. Kiefer Sherwood, you've been all over the story since, since day one. What is the latest? We've heard about Detroit. We've heard about New York. Listen, when you have someone like Kiefer Sherwoods, who's available, at Kiefer Sherwood at that price. A lot of teams come out of the woodwork.

Where's your spidey sense on Kiefer Sherwood today? Yeah, I mean, they're still going back and forth on this with a number of teams. They haven't taken off their stance of a first round pick plus or equivalent value for them. They clearly haven't gotten that yet. But, you know, the Rangers one is interesting because the Canucks have had interest in Rayne Schneider for a while. He's not having the best of seasons. He's in a contract here.

He's got Arbrites. I wonder if the Rangers are trying to dangle this carrot in front of them when the Canucks are going, well, he's not the guy we thought he was a couple years ago, so we want to try something else. You got another first round pick in there. Maybe we explore that route. It's been in on it. Dallas has been in on it.

Boston, Minnesota, even prior to the Hughes move. There are others, of course. And to your point, at $1.5 million, it's got a lot of teams very interesting. interested in him and potentially make that happen now. And it's a combo, I've mentioned this before, it's a combo of his offensive production, his goal scoring ability. The fact that he's, I think he's still second in the league right now and hits,

and that cap hit. It's a trifecta for teams trying to bring in a power forward that fits their system and can also fit their salary cap because it also allows some of these teams that may have three, four, five million in space to check off one box and still have enough in the cupboard to go out and get something to check off another box if they want to add a defenseman or whatnot like Dallas for example. So look, long-winded answer to say talks are still very aggressive and still happening. And they're trying to see which team is going to pay that price. The Canucks would like to do it in short order. And I think that's why maybe we're hearing a little

bit more is because there's a little more emphasis on trying to get this done in the near future. Winnipeg Jess, meanwhile, I mentioned out the top they've now lost 11 games in a row. I don't, nobody really knows where this is going to end. I thought, you know, Jets go up last night. I'm like, okay, so here comes. The losing streak is over. Congratulations, Winnipeg Jets. Hopefully for your sake and your fan base's sake and your players and your coach and your manager and your owner's sake.

The bleeding has stopped, but not so fast. So the number now is 11. What next? Is it players? Is it a coach? Like Scott or Neal? Is it a player move? Like what, what is it in Winnipeg?

It's like something has to give, no? I know it's Winnipeg. It does. It does. I get it. Like it's a very sensitive market in a lot of different ways. And I get that he's not prone to the big shocking move. But are we at the place now for Kevin Chevaldeaf where he might need to consider that?

I think we're getting there. I think we're, there's been a lot of reluctance and pushback with respect to making a coaching change. But there's also been an understanding from what I've, gathered that push comes to shove, they may not have a choice. And I don't think they're there yet. But you lose tonight to L.A. That's 12. Right? I think they're playing tonight. That's now 12. And how much more can this keep going? How much more can you hemorrhage before you've got to, you know, nip this one in the butt or make some type of change to just galvanize this group all over again. The secondary scoring and lack thereof has been a problem for this team all season.

It was a problem before Hellebuck went out. It was a problem while he was out. It's a problem now. And that's something that Chevy's been trying to address, but different than last seasons where he's, the last few seasons, where he's brought in rental type pieces, he's trying to look for somebody who can stabilize a second line now, next year, the year after, and so on. That's very difficult to do A, in season and B, when you're struggling the way that you are. I think this is going to be they're probably another week or so away. Even if they win a couple, I think the Ls are going to continue to pile up the rest of the season.

I think there are a couple weeks away from just recognizing that this is a blip in the radar. We've got to fix it for next season. We've got to accept our fate now reported this week that Luke Shen's open to a trade. He's made that known. He hasn't asked for a trade, but he's made it known that he's open for a change of scenery. He's a pending UFA. Teams interested in him. Teams interested in Logan Stanley.

they've got a couple other pending UFAs as well that I think they're going to look to explore. If you get a solid top five pick in the draft, you harness that, you add to your roster, maybe that's a second line type player, you add to your roster, and then you focus on next season. I think they're, like I said, a couple weeks away from just being like, okay, we're going to accept this, but this is a one-time thing. We've got to get back on track for next season. You know, I wonder, too, if there's a team that's interested in, and this would mean, of course, that, you know, St. Louis would do something with the brother. If there's any teams interested in putting together with the brother act here, with Braden and Luke.

Because, listen, St. Louis has had the tough season. Right? And, like, listen, St. Louis has had the tough week, you know, visually, the Bennington, the Bennington pool that wasn't a pull. And whoever the camera operator who got that close up of Joel Hofer and then, and then zoomed in here. Award winning. Deserves an award. Your right on her. First star of the night as far as I was concerned.

Like I wonder too if like there's more here from from the St. Louis Blues. Like I don't know that, you know, outside of the kids, like outside of, you know, Dallabor, Dvorsky and Jake Neighbors and these types of guys. I don't know. I don't know if there's any sacred cows there at all, to be honest with you. I don't think so. Yeah, no, I agree. I think Army's willing to listen on anybody, literally anybody that fits the vet other than other than the young kids. I'll throw Holloway in that mix too.

I think they're willing to listen on everybody, and that includes Robert Thomas. Now, that doesn't mean they're dangling them and hoping to move them out. It just means they're willing to listen. And if it peaks their interest, and if you're paying a premium, I think they would consider that. We know Cairo is out there. And I think there's a willingness from the player to accept a move depending on environment.

You mentioned Shen. They've got other guys in Joseph and Sunquist that are pending UFAs, Justin Falks generated a lot of interest. Parakeko's name was out there last season. I haven't heard him too much now, but I wouldn't be surprised if we start to hear his name again. And then you've got Binner and you've got a couple others. So it sounds to me like they've been open for business

and have relayed that message well before this calendar flipped to January. It's just they haven't been able to find the right dance partners. But Doug Armstrong and Alex Steen from every indication that I've been given are willing to listen on pretty much everybody and are not afraid to pull the trigger now, they just haven't found the deals that make sense for them at the moment. I'll tell you who I wonder about. Even though he's injured right now, I wonder about Poo Souter.

I really do talk about playoffs on the horizon and playoff style players. Souter's the guy that said that I wonder about with the St. Louis Blues, whose name may or may not be on a lot of lists for a lot of radars. Calgary Flames. I was on Secarus and Price today wondering about the Detroit Red Wings and they're probably looking for a top four veteran defenseman.

Rasmus Anderson, I would imagine, has at least been a point of interest for the Detroit Red Wings, and they're probably not the only team out there looking for a veteran defenseman. What's happening with the flames and Raz? Yep. Yeah, I think that's picked up as well since the holiday freeze. It wrapped. What is it, the 28th, 29th, whatever it was.

So it's been about a week where things are a little over a week where things have really started to pick up a little bit. We're hearing more on Blake Coleman. We're hearing Rasmus Anderson. We're hearing a little bit more on Nas Khadry. A bit of a different beast because of just the term that he's got and he does like it there. And the owner really likes him. So that's a bit of a complicated one, even though there are some teams that have told me that they've been told, or at least their belief, is that Calgary is willing to retain, or at least Craig Conroy is willing to retain a little bit

on Cadreys contract if the right deal is presented, but ultimately that's a type of move that needs to be approved by ownership. But, yeah, Rasmus Anderson's another one. I talked about Kiefer Sherwood, and we mentioned Sherwood being, you know, something that Canucks would like to do sooner than later. They're trying to escalate things and get this done. I'm starting to get a sense that Calgary as well, with the amount of interest in Anderson is, I think the preference is to just get this out of the way now.

I think they understand where he's at. I think he understands where the team is going. And I think the preference is to make this happen sooner than later. Of course, you've got to find the right deal. And maybe this gets prolonged until the trade deadline itself. But it sounds like the preference is make this happen soon and get this over with, bite the bullet. But whether it's Detroit, whether it's Toronto circled back earlier, Dallas is still interested, Vegas is still interested. There have been some other teams.

I heard Florida at least poked around. And that's Bill Zito just doing his due diligence and maybe just trying to scare some other teams. But there are other teams that wouldn't mind, you know, Colorado. Like there are teams that like them and there are teams that like him and Blake Coleman. So we'll see kind of, you know, where that goes. But things where the gaps are starting to define a little bit better in the league. and some teams are being a little more resound

to where they're going to be this year, and I think that's going to help the trade market overall. Tough week for the New Jersey doubles, eh? Between the booing of Luke Hughes and the blowouts and losing to the Pittsburgh Penguins. So having a conversation with someone last night as everyone tries to figure out, A, how New Jersey is going to welcome back players off LTIR

and also like what the future is and what can Tom Fitzgerald do and all the no trades and all the, you know, the cap situation. that they find themselves in. We were talking to this person yesterday about Dougie Hamilton specifically. And this person said,

this is going to be a tough one. He's got a poison pill on July 1st. The 7.5, I think it is, the $7.4 million bonus on July 1. He said July 2, this might be an easier trade, July 1, before July 1. It's going to be a tough one because of that bonus. Anything happening with Dougie Hamilton?

The Devils would like something to happen. they've had a lot of discussions. Yes, the bonus, because then after that, he's got to think another one, but it's like the following year, but it drops. Like this is the next big payout for him on July 1 and then the overall salary drops too. Yes. So it makes it financially, it's a lot more palatable to do it then, but that hasn't stopped Fitzgerald from trying to do this now.

Now, I heard that his 10-team list is very strategic. And some players have done this where, you know, they're given a 10-team trade list or an 8-team or whatever it is. And they strategize on where they're not likely to go. So I don't know that all the teams on his no-trade list, but I was just told it was very strategic, making it that much more difficult for the devils to potentially pull off the trade. they tried to trade him once or twice already this season. I heard there was an attempt in the summer as well, but those teams were not one of the 10,

and he's not been willing to kind of go off that, at least not now anyway. So it's going to take a little more finessing and convincing, but his name is still out there, and they're still having those conversations. I don't know where Fitsy goes now. I don't know how. We started to hear Dawson Mercer's name a little bit,

and I think that's more teams poking at him, trying to see, hey, would you consider making this? You got to do something. All your guys have no trade protection. You want to bring in this player? Well, we like him. So why don't we throw him back in the mix? I think it's more of that, not New Jersey trying to move him.

But if they got to do something big and are trying to do something big, that might be, that's a player that I'm curious about. Do they bite the bullet and say, we got to do something. We've got nothing else available to us. They're going to bring back a good player, no question. He'll probably be the best player in that trade with Dawson Mercer, packaged back. But there's been some reluctance there.

But I'm wondering how much more they can go without having to do something. You know, it's hearing you talk about, you know, the strategic no trade, I keep coming back to this same idea. I'm going to have to wait for another CBA for it to happen. The idea of offering compensation for waiving no trade clauses. Because right now there's your incentive for the player to waive or to go along with what the team wants. But if there's a financial incentive, like, hey, million dollars, if you waive to go to

team X, All of a sudden, now we have a business transaction and not just charity, i.e. give me something in exchange for nothing. Right. Right. Yeah. Look, what other sport? Is the NBA that does that? I think there's at least another one of the other majors that. Makes sense. Allow that. Yeah, it does. You've negotiated it and you want me to waive it in exchange for what? Yeah. In exchange for what? Why would I do you? Why would I do? Yeah. I like being here. Yeah. My life likes it here. My kids like it here. We negotiated this in good faith. Like now all of a sudden, you want to change the terms of it. Okay, well, let's put a little something extra on the off-alope then.

Yeah, yeah. No, I totally see that. And I see, like, that's where these types of situations come into play. And I'm sure it's going to be brought up in five years when they got to figure out the next CBA afterwards. I could definitely see that being a talking point as part of it. But right now, him, Andre Pallot's name. I haven't heard as much as Hamilton, but I've heard, but it's out there. But I don't know.

I don't know what direction they go in. Again, nobody's doing you any favors when you're losing. Nobody really does you any favors when you're winning either. But it's just amplified now. So he's got to be creative here in how he tries to remedy this in some fashion. You know, that compensation idea, whenever I mention it to people on teams, people in the NHL, is the same thing I keep coming back to is owners don't want any money outside the system, right? This is why we didn't see amnesty buyouts after the pandemic to get teams sort of cap compliant based on revenues, et cetera.

We didn't see any of that because owners are done with the idea of compensation outside the system to which I said, okay, make it, make it part of your salary cap then. All right, we had to pay a million dollars to Dougie Hamilton and now that's $1 million against our cap for this year. I don't know. Be creative. Carolina hurricanes. Listen, trades are part of them. of the NHL. It gets people excited. It's fun. It changes things up. It keeps things fresh. I don't know. As many ways you can get teams to encourage trading. NBA is dined out on it for years.

I think you do it in the NHL. Let's conclude with the Carolina Hurricanes, a team not afraid to make big swings in season or outside of season, off season. Yes, Burykutkinemi. Left shot, albeit slow-footed centerman for the Carolina Hurricanes. Your thoughts? he's been available for a good chunk of the season. I know it reported it was three weeks now, just before the holiday break that he was offered up for Phil Denno in L.A. and the Kings didn't want to tackle on that term. He's got four more years left in his contract. He's got a $4.82 million cap hit.

I think the money's palatable. It's just the term. For a player that you said, not great foot speed, play center, can play the wing, but has struggled. especially this season. But his name is out there. It's been out there.

And this week, you started to hear more of his name being out there in Carolina looking to do something. I don't think it's a situation where Carolina is trying to get rid of him. This isn't like the Denno thing at all. It's more, Carolina's looking at, you touched on it, and we've talked about it before, not afraid to take swings. They're taking a swing. They offered them up for Quinn Hughes.

They've offered them up in other scenarios. I wonder if they go back to Vancouver about another one of their players that they had interest in the past person maybe just me speculating maybe but you kind of your video kind of skipped there who was it what was the name you threw? Oh, Elias Pedersen.

Oh, that's right, yeah, that's right. The defenseman, right? Not the forward? Right, yeah, one of them. There's been discussion in the past. I wonder if they circle back. but but yeah Kakinemi's out there and his name has escalated at least that talk around the league

is heated up in the last since Monday so whatever four or five days but that's something to keep tabs on the hurricanes are active in that front I think he'd fit in Winnipeg well they need someone that I went that's what I keep coming back to

that's what I keep and it's not like Winnipeg is a super like they're not a burner team right like they're not going to blow you away with me that's what made Nick Eler stand out so much in Winnipeg like bam I'm like there's this team and then there's Nick Euler's who's just, he's like, you know, Marion Gabbrick was when he was on the Los Angeles Kings who were a big, heavy, slow team, and they get Gavrick and all of a sudden like this guy's a freak of nature.

That's why I wonder about Krakkenyemi with the Winnipeg Jets, you know? It's going to be like he checks boxes because potential line player in an elevated role, and now you've given him kind of the keys to that type of ice time and that type of responsibility. So maybe he gets back to 50 plus point status on his level. of performance. And he's got four more years. And that's something that the Jets want. They want guys that are going to come in that have term that are controllable.

It's an interesting one. I could see it logistically being a fit. But again, I don't see Carolina trying to dump him off. I think they've been trying to include him in a trade where they can upgrade in another area. Now, maybe they have, maybe it's a two-deal scenario. Maybe it's an inadvertent three-way where you're addressing one area and you're moving out and doing a deal in another fashion.

Like maybe it's all encompassing. But the initial word anyway has been, they've been trying to package them up to upgrade somewhere else. Right. But it is an interesting idea where they can do that with other assets and move Al-Karquanemi somewhere else

to collect those and maybe pawn those off into whatever their other deal is. It's a creative general manager there. Listen, David is always. Thanks. I know your phone's burning. It always is. And this is all of a sudden

there's a new sort of enthusiasm around trades heading into the weekend. I know you're on top of all of it. Continued success with The Insiders Show with Earth. And again, I'll direct people like the Darsh interview was outstanding. Well done. And we'll talk to you in seven days. Appreciate it.

Can't wait, buddy. See it. There is Dave Panyoda from the DFO Insiders program, Wednesdays at 3 o'clock here on our daily faceoff YouTube channel. Listen to the podcast, by all means as well. Available wherever you get your podcast. Dave is with us here every Friday, just after 1 o'clock. Eastern. A lot in there, young Zach.

Anything jump out at you from that myriad of topics from the Ottawa Senators of the Carolina Hurricanes with the Hesperi-Kinjami? Well, I think it's interesting that it's coming back up that the Shen brothers might try to find their way to the same team again because we heard that one last year. I always like that. We've had the conversation about the Hughes. Now there was the conversation. I think it was brought up yesterday by Kiprios about maybe the Leafs would have interest in Robertson, and then you get the brothers here,

and they were in on the Shenz last year, and then talked about the Kachucks. Like, it's, the brother stuff is fun, but to just dig into. The one I think is interesting, and it's not really, like, something you would have maybe an answer for, but I just don't understand

why Winnipeg doesn't look around right now. Like, Dave brought up the idea and said it would be a couple of weeks before they come to that conclusion, that this season is the blip, you take this one off, you re, you know, you reassess, come back next year. What about this year screams we could turn it around? Like, what about the standings and where they're at right now and the losing streak they've been on and the position of the Pacific and the central divisions? What screams we can figure this out and get in the playoffs?

Because to me, it just seems like a long shot to be able to even get in at that. point and then okay great you got in and now you play Colorado or Minnesota or Dallas like that doesn't seem like fun that doesn't seem like a year that I would want to be pushing chips in to try to fix this okay so here's the thing about the Winnipeg Jets um if you believe the management philosophy of patience is action then Kevin Chevaldeoff is doing the right thing because that's the one thing that Kevin Chevaldey have has always been and that is patience, patient. How many times, you know, going back to before last season, you know, was Mark Schifley traded

and Connor Hallibuck traded? All these players gone, firing out the door, we got to get something for them. Instead, they end up resigning. I will go back to the marketplace itself. And I got to give Kevin Shevoldeoff, who may have the most difficult job of any general manager in the NHL. You know, once upon a time, that was Bill Gaville. Garin because of the salary cap handcuffs in Minnesota for the Porese

suitor contracts. But over the long term here, no one has a more difficult job as a general manager than Kevin Chevaldeoff. And again, like no slight to the marketplace, but getting people to go to Winnipeg is not like getting people to go to sunrise or Tampa. It's a completely different beast. And, and I will say this, he gets players to sign long term contracts to stay. Like, he does it.

He does it. Full credit to Kevin Shevoldeoff. I don't know that it's a marketplace, considering how bad the season is gone right now. I don't know if it's a team that is ready for a shock because you still don't know if this is just that one bad season or if this is like the beginning of the end for the Winnipeg Jets. And I've always maintained,

as long as you have the goalie, like one of the hardest spots, maybe the hardest spot to fill with quality. If you still have, if you have the goaltender, and you have Josh Morrissey, and you have Mark Sheifley, and you have Kyle Connor, you have, you know, the pieces of what still should be

an excellent team in the NHL. For whatever reason, and we've seen it before with teams, hasn't been there for the Winnipeg Jets. It's an epic stumble. It's an epic fall. Like we haven't seen one like this. President's trophy winners

to last place in the NHL. It's brutal. And yeah, Dave's right, they play tonight facing off against the Los Angeles Kings. Maybe you have them in your trifecta coming up later on. We'll see.

We'll see where we got what cute little, what cute little poem you have written for us coming up at the end of the show. But in the meantime, that's why. Kevin Shevel Day Off has always been patient. That's always been the homework

of the Winnipeg Jets. I'm just a guy sitting here talking about it. I'm not the guy doing this. I'm just a guy watching the games. I'm just a guy sitting on my couch watching hockey. But I think that's kind of why the points you just laid out is kind of why I look at it and I'm like, you got pieces there. I don't think that this is a bad team.

I think you're having a bad year. I think you can kind of turn this thing around next season, but I think you should start doing so this year. And I'm not talking about trading Kyle Conner and Hellebuck and Shifley. You use those pieces next. year is the focal points but there's other pieces that you could dish off of or prepare to have to uh reset with and then go into and so i you know what it's a fair point that maybe the best way to go about it is actually just doing nothing letting this play out but i i just thought it was

interesting dave brought up the fact that yeah you know it's going to be a couple of weeks i was like well what changes from now to two weeks from now because i don't don't know. What happens if you win four games in a row? What happens if you, you win, you know, six of your next eight? Too many teams to jump over. Too many teams to jump over. Yeah, that's my question. Too many teams to jump over. No, it's a, it's a, it's a herculean, almost, you know, the Sisyphesian task to be able to do this. And at times, it's going to be frustrated. The myth of Sisyphus, right? Rolling up the rock on one side, only to watch it tumble down the other side. As Albert Camus reminds us, we must think of Sisyphus as happy. All right, let's get to,

let's get to a couple of... I know, sorry. Dude, I did my degree in English. You got to put it to you somehow. I tried to educate myself out of a job. I studied English and philosophy, dude. I was trying to get myself unemployed for my life, all right? And somehow I stumbled into a hockey career.

Sue me. Hungry for hockey history. On that lovely note. Hungry for hockey history is a presentation of Uber Eats. Uber Eats is enabling fans to maximize their fandom all season long with exclusive game day deals on the app. From game day eats to paper plates and napkins if you're hosting to all the ingredients you need to make your favorite game day dip before, during, and after the game.

Uber Eats is assisting every fan's hockey experience all season long. What do you got today, Uber Zach? Nice, there you go. January 9, 2007, Finnish history. Mika Kippersoff became the first Finnish-born goaltender in the NHL to reach 100 career wins. The win came in his 22nd career shutout in the Flames 3-0. win over the Minnesota Wilde. Marcus Mattson.

You need a quick check. I think Marcus Mattson was the first finish goaltender in the NHL. I could be wrong on that. There was that period in the 80s where you started to see the beginnings of European goaltenders in the NHL. The best of the bunch was Pellie Lindbergh man and, oh, my God. He should have been a star. But there was Hardy Astrum with the Rockies.

There was Marcus Mattson with Winnipeg slash L.A. And there was Uri Sira, Czechoslovakian goaltender, playing with your Toronto Mapleys. I always thought it was cool. He lived around the corner from me on Bhabi Point in the west end of the city. I'm like, there's Uri Sera's house. Oh, wow, that's so cool. But Miki Kipersoff, like I don't know about you, Zach, but I'll think about, you know, the Stanley Cup run.

But the one thing that I'll always think about. And I believe the idea came from a Colombian soccer goalie. And that is the scorpion save. The scorpion save, which we've seen like, you know, Jonathan Quick. Oh, look at that. Such a thing of beauty. Jonathan Quick and Henrik Lundquist. Like every goaltender, I want to say by now has this in their repertoire.

The scorpion saved, the desperation save, you're on your belly, you're swimming in your crease. And up comes that bottom pad. Here's a better look at it here. Boop. Scorpion save. Oh, he, I think he was the first. and it was a tribute to, I don't want tribute to, but attributed to back in the late 90s. Look at that.

I can't remember the Colombian soccer goaltenders name. He used to do that on the regular, contort their body into making a save with their back pat. Anyhow, that's how I will always think of Mika Kipersoff, who was one of my favorite goaltenders who Daryl Sutter absolutely stole from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a second round pick. Wow. So the, what? The Colombian goaltender, just a quick note. Am I right? I'm not going to say this.

Yeah, it's Colombian goaltender. His name's Renee Heguita. Probably saying that wrong. I apologize. But his nickname, El Loco. That's crazy. Yeah. And also to the Finnish goaltenders point, first finished goaltender in the NHL was

Marcus Matzon. It was Marcus Matson. The Islanders in 1977. And where did he play his first game? Was it L.A. or was it Winnipeg? It was Winnipeg. It was Winnipeg, 1979. Yeah.

Okay. So I still haven't lost it yet. I still got it. Still got it. Okay. I still got a little bit. A little bit left. Still kind of going on fumes, but still got a little bit in the all mine tank there.

A couple of things we wanted to do. And we went Broadway with Dave because we had a lot of juicy stuff here today. So feedback from people, whether it's on the email, whether it's on the sheet line. what do we have that will interest people today, Zacharoo? And by the way, we should, we'll do it all we'll do it in a second. What do you got for us today? Okay, this one comes in from Jeffrey Moran again. And I think you've got a story to accompany this.

And if people in the chat have them, I encourage you to send yours along as well. Hey, Jeff and Zach, it's Jeffrey Marone here. The other day in the chat, I put a note to Zach saying people should leave messages about the most unique or memorable thing they've ever seen at a hot. game. And here's my submission. Let me set the tone for you. I'm about 13 years old with my dad at the old Chicago Stadium,

watching the Blues play the Blackhawks for what feels like the hundredth time that season. Nothing eventful about the game. Couldn't tell you a thing about it. But during the second period, all of a sudden there's his buzz in the crowd. I can't figure out what's going on. Guy behind me points up toward... drunk guy, he's just shoved a beer vendor down to the floor. Here's what happens, and I can picture it my mind's eye-up at yesterday.

Beer vendor calmly gets up, takes off his tray, measures up the drunk guy, takes a step back, and karate kicks him right under the chin, sending him flying about 15 feet. The crowd erupts like it's the greatest goal they've ever seen. Beer vendor fights. For some reason, at this exact moment, I look down at the blues and Black Hawk's benches. All the players who aren't on the ice were watching this happen.

while play was going on. Here's my submission, Jeff. That's good. I love the show. Thanks for everything. Jeff, that's a great one. There is, God, I saw it on YouTube a million years ago, and this is again from the old Adams Division.

It was, I think it was Chicago, Minnesota. I'm almost positive that it was, where there was a massive brawl in the stands. I think it was at the Met Center. And all the players on the, like everybody's, stop to watch and because they don't put the cameras on brawls. They had to keep the cameras hot on the ice. Everybody's looking at this brawl and the announcers are describing that there's a brawl going on,

but the camera is not going to go and pan over. And I'm sure like if you're watching this thing live, all you're thinking about it is like, okay, so the commentators are talking about it. All the players have stopped the game. They're watching it. Will you please put the camera on this massive, I think it was the Met Center, this massive brawl at the Met Center in Bloomington? So, craziest thing I ever saw at a game.

really young. I want to say I would have been 11 years old. We don't see this in hockey. We don't see this in sports anymore, but for a while there, streaking was a thing. And I was actually at a game where someone streaked on the ice at Maple Leaf Gardens. It was the St. Louis Blues facing off against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Here's the call by Stowville's own. He lives down the street for me. It's so cool. The call from Brian McFarlane.

Have a look. Look at the guys. Police are out there. Cover them up. The guys of the bench is the best. The guys of the bench are great. The flat foot's come out. Yeah.

There's Harold. There's Harold. There's Harold Ballard, yeah. Yeah, nine years later. he'd be pulling out his rope at the Met Center in Bloomington at the draft. Hey, Dick Beddows. Look at him. Dick Beto's there.

She could shot at Dick, too. I was at that game. Either in the, my dad and I would go, every now and then we'd get like, you know, reds or gold somehow I would get those. But generally, we'd either the greens or the grays and the black.

And a young, I think it would have been 10 or maybe 11 years old. I was at that game. Everybody, I just remember everybody in the place going crazy for it. One of my favorite, maybe my favorite hockey streaking story. Charlie O. Finley, when he owned the California Golden Seals,

as a way to create marketing buzz, he paid a woman. I can't remember her name was like Miss Patricia or something like that. He paid a woman to streak a SEALs game, figuring that it would create a lot of buzz and people would want to go to hockey games because this is where women streak. That was his idea.

Actually, his other idea, you like this one. This is actually a pretty good one. free hockey tickets to barbers and the thinking was barbers have however many people coming in every single day and are always talking to people that are sitting in their chairs and one of the things if you give them free hockey tickets we'll talk about hey I went to the hockey game last night

and that was part of their marketing in the early 70s so barbers and female streakers for Charlie O'Finley Jeff thanks for the call on the sheet line speakpipe.com slash the sheet by the way is the way to get it in. Yeah, link is pinned in the top of the chat there. It'll be in the description as well. The barbers, I like that a lot.

That's actually really smart. Charlie O'Filly, yeah. Really smart. The female streaker one, I don't know how sustainable that is. Or how family friendly that event becomes. But sure, okay, I get it. That's fun. I've never understood, like, because we've seen it before, like people streaking it at hockey.

games like that is not a friendly environment for a man to go streaking like you got to like smack your ass and catch it when it pops out before you get over the glass to go to go for a trot that is not a very friendly environment for a gentleman right am i wrong about this one zach nope okay nope that's good points i have it i thought of have it clear you know you're going to think Jeff Submitted a thoughtful note on the sheet line. I thought we gave them a thoughtful answer and something from my past.

I'm going to give you one more here. Because this is a saying and I don't know how you'll react to this one. This came in from Steve and it was inspired by something we said the other day. I can't remember the context, but a couple of days ago, one of your guests said something about two players being in sync

And the phrase he used was that he finished his sandwich. And I just know you wrote that down somewhere. Got another one for you talking about Glenn Hall's unassailable record. This is one my grandfather always said when something was totally out of reach. Engraved that on the gold disc. Put it on the Voyager and send it to outer space with Chuck Berry and Mozart. Because nobody's ever touching that one. Take care.

You all do for work. Oh, that's good. Put that on the gold disc, Chuck Barry and Mozart. It sounds like a Steigerwald saying. Who said finishes sandwich? Oh, was it, was it Connor McGehee? I think it might have been, yeah, I think so when we were talking about chemistry and stuff. Yeah, I think that's why it finishes a sandwich.

It was Connor. That is a good, I'd never heard that one before. Finish his sandwich, but I mean, I'm not one for like goofy sayings. Like I just let those things go by and I don't like keep a stash of all these dumb sayings. And no, you don't use those. No, it's not that. Just, like, built the whole career on shallow charisma and bad lines. No, no, no, it's not me whatsoever.

No, it must be confusing me with it with a different guy. I like that engrave it on the gold disc and send it to outer space with check. With, what do we say? Chuck, Chuck, Terry and Mozart. Yeah, because no one's ever touching that. Ooh, that's a good. I like that one. That's an excellent.

Who was that one? Who called in on that one? That's a great one. That was from Steve. When I heard it at first, I was like, oh, that's funny. And then it just kept adding on and there was more elements and more elements. And I was like, what the hell is going on? I appreciate that.

I love it. I got an email for you quickly if you want to do the email. Why don't know? Let's go for it. So this one came in from Christopher. He says, hey, Jeff, I finished breakaway from behind the iron curtain to the NHL and jumped into freedom to win, finding it really interesting in the beginning about Soviet occupation a bit eerie considering the current political climate.

Long story short, whatever happened to Holiq. I remember he used to be on all the time. You guys should get him on during an MBSW day. His family stories have been really interesting. I'd love to hear some stories about his father and maybe even grandfather. They all sound like characters very fitting. This book gets my highest hockey recommendation. Whenever I get asked like, you know, which books should I read,

like which hockey books should I read, this one's always right up around the top. Freedom to win. This was a time and the games took place of World Championships in Stockholm, where, you know, the tanks had just rolled down the cobblestone streets of Prague. And the games between Czechoslovakia

and the Soviet Union of the World Championships took on a whole whole. whole different meaning, you know, which is why people say, oh, 72 must have been like so emotional in our system versus theirs as not even close. Like think of like the most emotionally laden games you've ever seen or violent games between teams. None of them have ever risen to the feeling of life or death like Czechoslovakia versus the Soviet Union at the World Championships after the invasion. Nothing. Nothing like it at all. Like you hear and you read and Bobby's told me stories of his father and all the players on that team, including the great Vaselab Natamanski, all talking about, you know, we would sooner die than lose the Soviets.

There was no way that we were going to let them win. They played two games and they won both. And it wasn't. You see video of it online. scoring goals and pushing the net off behind the Soviet net minder selling you out in front of shots blocking shots with your face like it was like every single shift had laden in it every single Czechoslovakian player this is life or death for us we would rather die than lose to the Soviet Union this is these were the most emotionally charged games of hockey that have ever been played anywhere Czechoslovakia versus Soviet Union nothing like it at all as for Bobby Holik I became good friends with Bobby

after he retired I knew him a little bit while he played became really good friends he's been over to the house a number of times you've got you'll like this one Zach we got old video of DJ my oldest son would have been

four years old I want to say five years old maybe four or five years old passing the puck with Bobby in the living room it's pretty cool I got the video somewhere It's really, I'll show it to him one day. But Bobby, last time I spoke to Bobby was, I want to say, a year ago. And he was doing something with the Israeli Hockey Federation coaching or training. I'm not sure if he's still doing that.

My buddy, Mike Majeka, who I went to Israel with in 2010 to train kids in Matula, northern Israel on the border of Lebanon. He's still there. He married an Israeli girl. So he is now coaching the women's team. at their World Championships in Estonia coming up in February. I'm not sure if Bobby is still working there or doing stuff with the Israeli Hockey Federation. But I know that Bobby bought a huge ranch in Wyoming.

Thank you, Mike Gillis. That was the New York Rangers contract. Bobby is one of the most interesting guys I've ever met, and he's one of those people who's like a fountain of knowledge, mainly through his father and his father's friends, about that era of European hockey, which to me is fascinating, one of the most interesting eras ever in the history of capital H hockey.

Here's a fact for you. The first sip of alcohol, Bobby Hulik ever had, was out of the Stanley Cup. Not a bad way to do it. First sip of alcohol. He told me that. I'm like, are you serious?

He goes, yeah. Never drank all the way until I won the Stanley Cup. And then I took a sip of champagne. out of the Stanley Cup with my teammates. I go, what'd you like? He goes, hated it. Bobby's great. You know, another interesting story about Bobby,

you know, a lot of guys, like, when they're done, like, they've just become, like, fresh meat for, like, beer leagues. Like, oh, got to get the X NHL around the team, got to get the XNHL on the team. I remember asking him once. I'm like, do you still play? He goes, I can't. I can't.

I get really frustrated. So I've just stopped playing. Go, why are you frustrated? He goes, I only know how to play one way. and I can't do that in like beer league. I can't because Bobby was like, Bobby was intense, man. Bobby was like a big, strong, intense hockey player.

He goes, I don't like hockey if I can't play it that way. Like he just could not play hockey like just a soft game. He just liked playing hard hockey. I always admired Bobby Holick. I always love Bobby O'League. There's another guy that I got to witness it firsthand playing with him. And this is, I can say this because I'm not outing him because he did this on a pretty public stage as well. Gary Roberts, another guy like that.

Pretty intense at all times. Saw that. The winter classic. The winter classic. Draper. I'm friends with Gary's nephews and played men's league with the summers out there in Stoville. And he filled in because we were short bodies one day. And I was like, wow.

Gary's still really intense. get out of his way. Game 7, Gary. And again, like, to Bobby Holig's point, or maybe to Gary Roberts' point as well, like these guys only know how to, some guys just only know how to play one way, and they're not going to turn it down.

They're not going to turn it down. Like, that's the way they do it, and they don't want to be, like, super passive, and we're just playing beer league or old timers here, ha, ha, having a good laugh and just, you know, skating around for an hour than having a tin in the dressing room.

No. Some of these guys just still want to play the same way, and that was Bobby. I would, you know what? I'm going to text Bobby this. weekend and see if we can get them on the show. Have you ever met him before? Holik, you ever talk to him? Oh, you'll love him. No. Bobby's great. Bobby's fantastic. We'll get them on the program. Okay, so again, the ways to get in.

Emails the sheet at the nation network.com sheet line speakpipe.com slash the sheet. Did I get that right, Zach? Yep, that's correct. Comments, questions. In the description of the show, by the way. Spicey takes insults and corrections. All these things are welcome on the sheet line and by the email as well. Okay, let's see what you've got cooked up for us here. On your shine spot. On your spotlight. The sheet is powered by Fanduel. Play your game with Fanduel. It's the NHL season. Fan Duel is your home for all the action on the ice. From Blue Line to Bet Slip, we've got you covered all season with unique promos, live

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Spotlight on Zach Phillips. So my dad, he's gotten really into gnomes, like garden gnomes and lawn nuts and stuff. And he likes putting them out. And we've gotten him different ones like leafs. gnomes and uh you know like uh these guys wearing like bathing suits and stuff there's funny little gnomes to put out in the backyard and around the house and stuff so for christmas this year we're looking for a gnome to get them and we came across these chicken gnomes okay but i kept looking at them and and i kept seeing all these like imperfections in the gnomes and so i asked the guy in the

store and like why are all the feet of these chickens messed up and Jeff, you know what he told me? Well, Clay chicken toes aren't perfect. Man, you took me for a ride on that one. Woo! Out the door and around the corner. It's taking me for a drag. All right, here we go.

I had to set this up somehow. There was no way to get this all back together. Clayton Keller, Jacob Chickren, Jonathan Taves, Cole Perfetti. Clay chicken toes aren't perfect. Perfect. I love it. I'm impressed. As I'm sure you'll say at some point this weekend,

said the kids to the neighbors, Daddy's coming home, drunk. Well done, Zach. Oh, $5 on that wins $1,190, by the way. That's not bad. Okay, what are the names you got there? So you got Cole Perfetti, Jonathan Taves, Jacob Chikrin, and Clayton Keller.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Also, just last night, we had Scott Lawton. Oh, you're so close. Oh, I know. Lots of pasta leads to Tucks. What the hell, man.

We got Scott Lotton, we got Alex Tuck, and then David Pasternak, who was the biggest favorite of all on the score. No good. Washed. Washed, done. Trade him. Bomb, no good. Move him.

Pasta. 88. Day late, dollar short. Out the door. What did he cost you? That was a good one, too, wasn't it? Five bucks on that one? Yeah, it was doing 300.

No, that one was doing like $3070 or something. It wasn't as big, but he's still disappointing at the end of the day. Of all the people, too, that should have been like long-term deposit, result guaranteed. Come on, like David Posternock, money in the bank, but come on. Scott Lotton was plus $9.50 on there. Come on. Yeah, but he's playing his old team. You know that's going to happen.

Yeah, a little shorthanded bar down. That's not bad. 19 and 1 in the faceoff dot, by the way. 19 and 1. He was 19 and 1? The best of any player in the NHL this season who's taken 18 or more face-offs. Sounds like someone.

Specific bar to set, but. Someone mentioned that on a post-game show last night, Zach. A least after dark. A few times. A few times. Hey, did you have my buddy Mike O'Jello on yesterday? Mike and Buffalo? I did.

Mike and Buffalo is a regular on the post-game show now. He's awesome. He's great, eh? Yeah, we shot back and forth for like an hour last night, and then we opened up the phone lines and took calls for another two hours after that. So, yeah, yeah. You got to get the audio drop of Andy Frost on Leaf Talk saying, Mike in Buffalo.

That's for you kids, that's Morgan Frost, Dad, who used to be an announcer at a place I used to work at. I used to host a great show called Psychedelic Sundays on Q107 and in-house announcer for the Toronto Maple Leaf. You got to get that drop from Mike. Maybe Mike already has it. Mike and Buffalo You're on

Maybe I'll see what I can do Because I didn't really think about that Maybe I'll see what I can do about getting Dress them up A favor Yeah Well I tried to introduce him The same way

Because I know how he was introduced And I don't think it hits us the same My voice Just not what Andy Frost's voice is So Maybe I Maybe I can ask for a favor From

My friend's Morgan there and see what we can do about getting a little intro. Casually drop that, my buddy, Morgan Frost. You know, Wayne Gretzky always said, don't drop names. He used to always telling me that. Wayne did, yeah. Robert De Niro mentioned that to me a couple of times.

Robert De Niro used to always say, don't drop names. It's not good. It's not good. All right, great stuff, Zach, you have yourself a great weekend. Actually, here's some news for you. Zach and I are going on the road. Finally, yeah, I'm going to see you all weekend long. Finally, even though my entire family has gone multiple times to see games,

this is going to be my first time visiting Yost Arena. I have never gone to Yost. This is your first time. So we're going to Michigan, shooting some stuff for the Wolverines this weekend. They're playing Notre Dame on Saturday going to the game. And it's going to be a lot of fun. I can't wait for it.

My first Yost experience. My kids have been multiple times, and they're like, geez, dad, come on, man. You got to go. You got to check it out. Number one team in the country, too, by the way. For all those of you have said, Michigan's too young,

Michigan won't do that, blah, blah, blah, number one team in the country. Brandon and Rado's got that program Grooven. So we're off to Michigan tomorrow and then we're back right here Monday to talk all about it. So Zach, look forward to seeing you tomorrow afternoon at Yost as the Wolverines face off against Notre Dame.

Thanks for the great Dave Panyota for stopping by. He's here each and every Friday. Man, we did a lot with Dave. I know a lot, but there was the Ottawa Senator situation. So from the SEND to the New Jersey Devils to the Winnipeg Juts to the Carolina Hurricanes with Jesbury, Kudkinemi. Lots of good stuff today with Dave every Friday, 105 Easter.

He's a board. Thanks to you for a great week. That was a lot of fun. A lot of great stuff this week. Go back if you want to listen to Peter DeBoer interview from yesterday. That was a really good one. Please check it out in the archives. Thanks to everybody in the chat.

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Yep, tomorrow. For that game. God, you know what? Maybe you should drive. I don't even know what day it is. So it'll be there tomorrow if you see us, pull us aside. If not, we'll talk to you on. Monday for another edition of The Sheets.

I'm going to go get fixed my broken calendar here in my head.