The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On The Road: Zoe Boyd [Episode 5]
Episode Date: October 11, 2025Jeff Marek sits down with Boston PWHL defender Zoe Boyd for an open, inspiring, and funny cottage-side chat in Muskoka. From her incredible journey through adversity — including her mother’s life-...changing accident — to her breakout year in Ottawa, Boyd shares how hockey became her lifeline and why she’s proud to be part of a league that’s finally giving women the platform they deserve.The conversation goes far beyond the rink: fashion, podcasting, mental health, the growing culture of women’s hockey, and what makes the PWHL’s vibe so unique compared to the men’s game. Boyd also talks about her bond with teammates like Brianne Jenner and Jocelyne Larocque, her favorite cities to travel to, and what she’s building off the ice through her own creative projects.1:15 – Learning to be comfortable in her own skin3:30 – How tragedy turned into motivation and perspective5:10 – Hockey as an escape and emotional outlet6:45 – The importance of rest, travel, and resetting after the season8:10 – The people who helped Zoe along the way9:45 – Remembering her first PWHL game and the crowd reaction11:40 – Ottawa memories and the league’s best fan base13:45 – Playing with legends like Jenner and Larocque, facing Poulin18:30 – Style, self-expression, and fashion in the PWHL19:05 – Favorite road trips and playing cards in Toronto19:55 – What Zoe wants people to know about her story21:05 – Why she started her podcast and what it represents23:20 – Athletes showing more personality in the women’s game24:30 – Favorite teammates and what makes the PWHL special25:40 – Mental reset in Muskoka and closing reflectionsFrom the boards and glass to the Muskoka docks, this is On the Road with Jeff Marek, presented by Airbnb — celebrating the stories, people, and places that make hockey special. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey there, it's Jeff Merrick here.
You know, my wife and I both have countless memories from spending time discovering Canada.
Well, I always come back to the summer of 2005.
We were staying at a cottage on Lake Joseph here in Muscoca, watching the Live 8 music festival in Barry on television.
My buddy Jeremy Taggart, former drummer from Our Lady Peace, dropped by after his band's set and stayed the rest of the weekend at the cottage after
the band set and told some incredible backstage stories about some amazing Canadian music icons.
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family, whether that means traveling across southern Ontario hockey ranks during the
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Okay, no exaggeration, you are about to meet one of the most interesting people in the entire world of hockey.
Welcome to on the road cottage conversations with hockey people.
Now, Zoe Boyd, defender for the Boston fleet.
She is interested in fashion.
has her own series of podcasts, a lot of great video clips on social media,
and she just happens to be one of the best defenders in the PWHL.
You are going to love this.
Trust me. Let's go meet Zoe.
Zoe, go ahead.
Hey, Jeff.
It was Coco.
Thank you.
I would love to.
Thanks for having me.
I'm sorry.
Zoe Boy, interview, rock and roll.
He's awesome.
First of all, Zoe, welcome to Muscoga.
Second of all, you seem like the little that I know of you,
you're comfortable in A, your skin, and B, you're comfortable in like so many different
different environments, whether it's hockey, and we're going to talk a lot about hockey, but fashion
media, you got a ripping podcast, like all of it. Do you ever get nervous about anything?
Yes, of course I get nervous about anything, but thank you for saying I look comfortable
because it's a, that's a facade. But this is the only, this is the only skin I get, so
I got to learn to be comfortable in it. When did it become something more than just a hobby? Like when
you're a kid, you just go and play and hockey's fun and you have all kinds of hockey dreams,
maybe playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs, but everybody has them. And at a certain point,
you realize, you know, I've distinguished myself amongst the class of players that I'm playing
with, and this is going to be more than just a hobby and a fun way to hang out with my pals.
Do you remember, like, did you have a moment where you realize that, you know, this is more
than just something fun to do with my friends? Yeah, I think, obviously it started out that way.
Like when you're a kid ripping around on the ODR, you know, hot cocoa comes out, there's snow banks, like it's so much fun.
But honestly, I loved it from the start.
Like, once I started playing, I loved it obviously, and I had a blast.
My older brother played hockey, and that's kind of how I got into it.
But for me, when the switch happened from hockey being more of something that was just fun, to like, okay, this is like my thing and I need it.
um was probably around the time um my mom got into a car accident and that switch happened like when
I look back because it turned into some from something that was really fun for me to something
that was like an escape and just like you know took took everything away that I was struggling with
and all I had to think about was playing a fun game so when that happened hockey definitely
switched into something that was more of a lifeline for me and then um when i was maybe 13 or 14 and
started getting recruited by schools was when i was like oh okay i can actually do something with this
you mentioned your mom you mentioned tammy who when you were five was in a absolutely horrible car
accident she's been in in in long-term care ever since a significant brain injury um
the story is well told and cbc did a wonderful piece on it which you'll just just
break your heart and inspire you at the same time.
But how did you get through it?
I mean, tragedy comes to everybody's life.
Yeah.
It comes early or it comes late, but nobody gets out clean.
For you, it happened really early.
Yeah.
How did you deal with it?
Um, I mean, if I'm being honest, Jeff, I'm still dealing with it.
Like, I mean, anyone who goes through something hard, like, big adversity like that in your life,
it doesn't, you know, just go away.
It's kind of something you have to keep, uh, marketing.
searching through and working on, but like I said, hockey was just so crucial for me when that happened.
I don't, I think if I didn't have hockey, I would be in a much different place today than I am.
So it was certainly hockey that helped me get through it, and then also just friends and family
who stepped up to the plate to provide some support and, you know, give that extra love.
that I needed, especially at that age.
So it was definitely a combination.
It makes sense about hockey.
I've always had a pet theory about why hockey is the best sport
and as a really healthy sport for people
and is a healthy sport for people that need to tune out
what's happening in their lives.
I've thought about it.
I'm not sure if it's going to resonate with you,
but here I go.
Hockey's the one sport where physically you're separate
from the real world.
There are boards.
There is glass, right?
There's no out of bounds in hockey.
You are physically separated from the quote-unquote real world.
In other sports, you run out of bounds.
In hockey, there's a place where life stops physically with the boards and hockey begins.
And it feels like you're in a different world.
It's the uniform.
It's the physical location of where.
you're playing and there's a separation physically between life on the ice and life off of
the ice. You're not like skating out of bounds into the stands, right? Does that resonate with
you? Because it's a great place to completely be someone else for a while. Jeff, that might
resonate with me the most out of anything I've ever heard because I always used to say once I stepped
on the ice like through those boards
the only thing that mattered
was what was in between
the boards and the glass like
you're not thinking about your homework
you're not thinking about your parents
or you know any problems you have going on
it's it's legit just what's
in between the boards
and so
you should you should like
put that quote
down and put your name there because that was
yeah that that was perfect
we're here on Muscoca let me take a
a quick pause away from hockey,
and we're going to get back to it in a second here.
Whether you're rehabbing, whether you're vacationing,
whether you're just having a end of the season sort of chill out.
I know you like traveling.
Who doesn't?
Who doesn't love traveling?
I know.
Trust me, if I'd love to do more, I think we all would.
But, like, what is it for you that you need at the end of a season?
What I need at the end of a season is definitely just a,
a reset. You know we're going, going, going all the time. Your body is so gas by the end of the
season. So my favorite thing to do is just take a week or two away from hockey, away from the
gym and just totally chill. Like something like this would be amazing at the end of the season.
Yeah. Yeah. Solo with friends. Does it matter? Preferably with friends. I love to to yap and
you know, giggle. So if I'm by
myself, it's a little bit too much
alone time, but
yeah, with friends
would be nice.
I'm curious about people that
help you along the way. Whether it's
a coach, whether it's a teacher, whether it's
a friend, family member,
like, again, sitting on
the shoulders of everyone that comes before no one gets there on their own you might feel like
you've achieved it on your own yeah and there's a army of people behind you who are those people for you
definitely like i feel like i achieved it on my own but uh that's a great question i wish i could like
just think pink boom like list off a million people because there truly are but um i would say
number one would be my dad just you know single parent um i know it was really tough for him
the situation we had growing up
and my brother played rep hockey
I was playing House League
I loved it so much I wanted to play rep
and I can remember my dad
having that conversation with me and
I remember him vividly saying
well I
I don't know how I'm going to be
able to get you both to
practice in games you know
because the rep schedule is a lot
more intensive than House League
and I said well it's not
fair dad Spencer's playing rep I want to
And he found a way to make it work as a single parent and with a full-time job and, you know, a lot going on.
So I am forever grateful for him because, you know, he gave everything to be able to give me this opportunity.
So I hope he's watching this.
I need some money, Dad.
But no, he's really just, I can't.
put into words how grateful I am
for him. What was the first pro game
like? Oh
Jeff, I
don't know how to put it into words
we
Because in the stands there's like tears
People like on the ice there was tears too
Never thought this would happen
Yeah I mean
We didn't really know what to expect
Going into that game
We didn't know what to expect with this league
We had high hopes
But also in the
past, you know, women's hockey tended to struggle with the attention it deserved and
fan base and all that. So we were optimistic, but also trying not to get our hopes up.
So I remember vividly getting dressed for warm up and we started walking out of the locker
room towards the ice and you could just hear this loud roar.
And I remember thinking like, oh my God, that sounds like a lot of people.
And we step out on the ice.
I remember, like, looking up, this is warm-ups.
There was not a single seat to be had for warm-ups.
Not a single fan was sitting down.
Everyone was on their feet, screaming, cheering,
and I just about blacked out.
Like, I, first of all, I've never seen that many people in one space,
let alone to watch our hockey games.
So I really, like, I had to, like, I almost needed to be revived
because I was, like, blacking out, like, couldn't feel my hands, couldn't, like, it just,
like, all went numb.
Like, it was the coolest thing I'll ever experience.
You had a great season last year.
You played a lot, and your team was really good.
Yeah, we were really good.
We had a great year.
What was last season like in Ottawa?
I don't want to get to Boston in a second.
What was last season like for you in Ottawa, whether it's, something like, whether it's
how the fans got behind you, whether it's your play, coming together as a team,
the playoffs, all of it.
Oh my gosh.
Jeff, it was amazing.
Like I said, I think Ottawa, I'm biased, but I think Ottawa has just the best fan base.
So that immediately adds so much fun and excitement to playing there.
But we also had such a great group.
And we went through some adversity, like early on in the season, kind of mid-season.
And after we got through that together, we just had the best time.
I mean, every day we showed up and we just wanted to have fun and play for each other.
And I think that's what really took us as far as we went.
We were just like, let's just go to work for each other and we'll have fun while we do it.
Like what happened?
Because it was almost like it was a switch.
And then it was like Ottawa was like rocket attached to your back.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, it was when the.
world's break game. We had a great group of us who were hanging back while a lot of our
teammates went off to play for their countries and we just really got silly and we had a lot of fun
and when our teammates came back we kept those vibes and we took a lot of weight off our shoulders
that we had about like making the playoffs and and all that and we just kind of were like all right
we get to be here together. Obviously we want to make it to the playoffs but like let's make the most
of us, have fun, and enjoy each other while we can still be teammates, because
inevitably, you're never going to have the same group twice, you know?
So that shift really, really changed things for us.
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Hey there, it's Jeff Merrick here.
You know, my wife and I both have countless memories from spending time discovering Canada.
Well, I always come back to the summer of 2005.
We were staying at a cottage on Lake Joseph here in Muscoca, watching the Live 8 music festival in Barry on television.
My buddy Jeremy Taggart, former drummer from Our Lady Peace, dropped by after his band's set
and stayed the rest of the weekend at the cottage after the band's set
and told some incredible backstage stories about some amazing.
Canadian music icons. I will never forget that. And fast forward to today, I'm a hockey
parents, and I feel like I'm always on the road with my family, whether that means traveling
across southern Ontario hockey ranks during the week or overnight at tournaments on select
weekends. But what makes our hockey experience even more special is booking a place on Airbnb
when we're on the road for overnight tournaments. All of this traveling got me to thinking, my
home's just sitting empty when I could be hosting it on Airbnb instead. I'd simply put up my
house on Airbnb, pre-select dates that I want to host, bam. It's practical, easy to manage,
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insert player here, Malifili Puland might be the obvious one.
Did you have those?
Jeff, every game.
I have that moment legit once a game.
Yeah.
Like even on my own team playing with Brian Jenner and Jocelyn LaRocque,
like those are girls that I grew up watching on TV at the Olympics.
So to be teammates with them and then, of course, play against Poulin and give her a body check once in a while.
Like, that's just a dream.
So, yeah, I have that moment, literally every game.
So I'm curious about her, you know, one-on-one.
You're a defender.
She's, like, the best forward to ever play the game
and is the clutchiest player that ever clutched.
Like, male-female, animal vegetable.
It doesn't matter.
Like, she's, like, the most clutch player ever.
Yeah.
What's she like one-on-one?
Like, when Marie-Philippe Palin is coming down your side.
Coming down the wing?
Honestly, Jeff, I hope she doesn't watch this,
But I, like, close my eyes and I pray for the best.
Like, when Phulans coming down on you, it's just like, okay, like, pray that, like, somehow the puck jumps or, like, she loses it.
But, like, obviously, that never happens.
So, it's honestly just, you just hope that she's not going to rip by you and score.
P2HL is such a unique league.
And I've been to a number of games.
And one thing that I always tell people about is the hockey is the hockey, but the vibe is completely different.
Yeah.
There's more of, like, a vibe of, like, celebration.
there's a vibe about like this is awesome
hockey on the men's side
there's so much like nervous
there's a lot of anxiety
that sort of hangs in the air over every game
on the on the on the PWHL side
it seems like it's much more of like it's certainly
really competitive but it seems like it's more of a celebration
do you feel that oh 100%
like you said it kind of feels more like
like a united culture
and it's almost like at least my experience
we had an amazing fan base in Ottawa
But we never felt pressure from the fans to, you know, win or do well.
Like, of course, that's what you want and you want to do that for them.
But it was always like they were just so happy to be there and so proud that we had this going on
that they almost just want everybody to have fun.
That's the vibe that we get playing.
But it's really special.
I think that's definitely something that sets our league apart.
You know, in the inaugural season, there's one.
sign that I always come back to, which on the one hand is funny.
On the other hand, is kind of embarrassing for capital H hockey.
And I think you know where I'm going with this one.
Can't remember which game it was at, but there were three women, I think, in their mid-20s,
who had a sign that said, if we knew there was going to be a league, we would have tried harder.
At first thought, I'm like, oh, that's kind of funny.
And then I thought, ooh, that's a real, that's an indictment.
Yeah.
Like, when you see something like that, what goes?
through your mind?
I mean...
It's taken a long time.
Yeah, that's an understatement.
I think...
I'll just give you this little tidbit.
If you asked me what I wanted to be
when I grew up,
when I was a five, six, seven, eight-year-old,
I would have told you that
I was going to play
for the Toronto Maple Leafs in the NHL.
Yep.
Obviously didn't quite pan out.
I wanted, but it's because I turned them down.
and to play in the PWHL, but...
They couldn't afford you.
Yeah, exactly.
And maybe they would have made it to the finals by now, but we're not going to, we're not going to jump to conclusions.
But, no, I think it's been such a long time coming.
And growing up, it was always, like, playing Division I hockey was, like, our NHL, you know?
Like, that was the goal.
Like, that was, that was, if you made it there, it's, like, almost like, that's as far as you could go other than the Olympics, of course.
but it is crazy because we never thought that it was a possibility.
I certainly didn't.
So for it to finally come where we're actually having a sustainable league,
being respected and getting paid a livable wage,
it's just a dream come true for not only us who are playing,
but I'm sure the women who have come before us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So do you?
Yeah.
So do you know.
I worked with him for a number of...
All right, Jeff.
Challenge time.
Okay.
You're gonna lose.
I know, yeah.
Better than me and just about everything.
How would you describe your style?
Oh.
A whole mixed bag of who knows what.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I, uh...
I don't even know how to describe my style.
Whatever I like, I like.
Yeah.
And it's usually not very...
Very conventional.
Who style do you like best in the league?
That's a tough question because I admire a lot of people's style in the league,
but I would have to say Sam Isbel, who was on my team last year,
just because she's got the sauce.
You know, you either got the sauce or you don't have the sauce, she's got the sauce.
Yeah, I'll tell you.
Yeah, okay, go.
Favorite road trip?
Favorite road trip?
I always love going to Toronto.
Really, eh?
Yeah, eh?
Well, I mean, like, you sort of grew up.
Not too far from Toronto.
I know, and that's the reason, because I get all the fans,
like the family who look like fans and the support there.
And then for some reason, I don't know why,
but for whatever reason, me, Jenner, and Jocelyn LaRocke,
and Victoria Bach would always play in Ontario fashion,
Uker, for whatever reason in Toronto.
And I love a good game.
Yes, sir.
I love a good game of Uker, so that's probably.
Are you looking forward to going to Vancouver and Seattle?
Oh my God, yeah.
How could you not?
It's great.
Yeah, sweet cities.
Come on.
It's got to be someone.
What do you want people to know about you?
Well, that's a tough question, Jeff.
What do I want people?
Like when people think Zoe Boyd, what do you want them to know?
I think I would want people to know that I,
I am
much more than just a hockey player
and a pretty face
I would want people to know that
you know
I want people to know my story and I want people to know it
because I want people to be able to relate
and gain some sort of benefit from it
whether it's one person or 10 people or 100
you know what I mean like I just want
to make people happy,
make people laugh
and most importantly
make people
understand that
we all have unique life
experiences and hard times
and we're all special as we are
and I want people to know that
everything's going to work out okay
no matter what you're going through, I guess.
First of all, why did you want to do a podcast?
I think it's great.
What's like, is there like,
What's the motivation behind it?
Why did you want to do it?
Sometimes athletes are like, oh, I'm just focusing on the sport.
Everything else is a distraction, but not you.
I'm so opposite of that, Jeff.
I love hockey to death.
Don't get me wrong, and I'm so grateful to play it.
But I'm more complex than that, you know.
I'm not just a hockey player.
Like, I have so many more interests and things I like to do.
And I saw, you know, I had this opportunity to present itself.
And I thought, like, why the hell not?
Like, I like to yap.
I have the chance to have a platform here.
And if I can, you know, do something with it and even make one person who's listening laugh or feel like they have community or maybe even feel like they can relate, then I honestly is like, okay, it's the least I could do to try and create a space like that.
And you seem like wide open to talk about, like, anything.
Yeah.
Like, what's, like, what are some of the things that, like, you find yourself talking about because nobody else is talking about them?
Yeah, I mean, I kind of do have loose lips, which is maybe sometimes not the best thing, but hopefully, um, hopefully it's okay.
I, I will talk about anything and everything.
I think, um, especially with my podcast, like, we don't, I don't aim to talk so much about hockey.
Like, we have all season to do that and, you know, a lot of people covering it.
So my goal is to talk about more life experiences and interview cool people and meet them where they're at.
And hopefully through that, create a space or a community where listeners are like, okay, I can relate to this story.
And just that alone makes me feel a lot more comfortable in my skin, if that makes sense.
It does.
And I can recall when this started to happen in sports where athletes realized,
I can be the media
I can be
I can have my own podcast
I'm going to launch my own
social media channel
at one point
like that really scared teams
yeah
because they weren't in control of it
yeah
has anyone said anything to you
from the league
about everything that you're doing
because I mean
I'm assuming they like it
because I think it's a really positive thing
for their league
like the more you can have
the personalities out
the more fans can relate
to players
and the longer they stay
hockey fans. Yeah. I mean, no one said anything yet. Let's, I hope they're okay with it. But honestly,
in my opinion, that's one of the major differences between women's and men's hockey. We show a lot
more personality and, um, we, we demonstrate who we are off the ice a lot more than maybe the men's side.
They're a little bit more, you know, strictly hockey focused, it seems. But I think that's, you know,
I think it's good.
I think it's nice for the fans to get to know who we are.
And like I said, we're so much more complex than just hockey players.
So to create that space, I think, is something that could be really important.
Some of your favorite teammates that you've had along the way.
Oh, boy.
Like I just, I watched the podcast.
with you and Bourbonnet and in Clarkie.
And I was like, but these three people have like a really unique bond.
Yeah.
Who are your pals?
Oh my gosh.
They're all my pals, Jeff.
I literally, that's my favorite thing about hockey too, is just the girls in it and the camaraderie that we build.
But favorite teammates, you're going to have me like listing off like 50 people.
But Brian Jenner, for sure, just because she's got a tremendous family.
She's such a great leader in person.
Legend.
Oh, my God, legend, and so lucky to have played with her.
Jocelyn LaRocque for the same reason.
Learned a lot from her this last season.
Becca Leslie, Akane Shiga.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, I love that girl.
I adored her.
Ashton Bell, sweetheart.
Now, I've got to say, like, all my teammates.
Final thought on where we are right now.
Now, like, I find that people that I talk to here, because we've, we've done interviews all week long, the interviews are great because everyone's just naturally relaxed.
It's not the stress of a season.
There's not the anxiety.
Everyone's, like, really chilled out.
It's a great place mentally to be.
Everyone's got to take care of their mental health, obviously.
Grandparents have a cottage?
Yes, they do.
So you get it.
I do get it, Jeff.
What do you think?
this what i wouldn't give to live here right now just imagine like it's it's and that's honestly
something that's so important is just having a good mindset and mental health and all that and
the off season is a great time to kind of reset that um just being at a place like this makes
it that much easier to totally relax reset um feel good i mean when you're here looking out at a
you like that like really what do you have to stress about i know life's good yeah seriously yeah
hockey's good yeah good good good good good good good this has been a real treat thank you jeff
treat's been mine
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Hey there, it's Jeff Merrick here. You know, my wife and I both have
countless memories from spending time discovering Canada.
Well, I always come back to the summer of 2005.
We were staying at a cottage on Lake Joseph here in Muscoca
watching the Live 8 music festival in Barry on television.
My buddy Jeremy Taggart, former drummer from Our Lady Peace,
dropped by after his band's set
and stayed the rest of the weekend at the cottage
after the band set and told some incredible backstage stories
about some amazing Canadian music icons.
will never forget that. And fast forward to today, I'm a hockey parent, and I feel like I'm always
on the road with my family, whether that means traveling across southern Ontario hockey ranks
during the week or overnight at tournaments on select weekends. But what makes our hockey
experience even more special is booking a place on Airbnb when we're on the road for overnight
tournaments. All of this traveling got me to thinking, my home's just sitting empty when I could be
hosting it on Airbnb instead. I'd simply put up my house on Airbnb, pre-select dates that I want to
host, bam, it's practical, easy to manage, and it enables people like me to make some money while
they're not at home. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca slash
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