The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Brian Burke on a Stanley Cup Final Rematch

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

In this episode of The Sheet, Jeff Marek is joined by Brian Burke to break down the Edmonton Oilers’ huge win over the Dallas Stars as they punch their ticket to the Stanley Cup Final. The two dive into Pete DeBoer’s eye-opening postgame comments about Jake Oettinger and what they mean for the Stars moving forward. Then, they preview the upcoming Stanley Cup showdown between the Panthers and Oilers — what to expect, key matchups, and much moreShout out to our sponsors!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Ninja Kitchen Canada: https://www.ninjakitchen.ca/products/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system-zidFN101CGY?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=olv&utm_campaign=25Q2-Crispi&utm_content=en👍🏼Budweiser: https://www.budweiser.ca/ca_enReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I learned to harden my heart. Leading me closer to my purpose. Be patient with what's coming. Stories that heal. Share yours. Together, we are Unsinkable. Weareunsinkable.com Fans of the sheet, I'm here to tell you about Cozy.

Cozy home furnishings are made for everyday comfort and versatility. They're designed to be loved and they should make you feel at home too. Live large in any space with Cozy. Modular furniture to move and grow with you. Make any space feel like home. Cozy is furnishing your home made easy. Setting things up at home can take a long time. Cozy helps you get there faster. All their furniture is easy to assemble and

gets delivered to your door in easy to move boxes. From sofa beds to washable rugs, modular shelving to outdoor lounging, Cozy has it all. Cozy's design assistants help you customize everything. With Cozy's washable and stain resistant sofas and rugs, upgrading your furniture doesn't just give you a new look, but peace of mind. Life's more exciting with options. With Cozy's customizable looks, there's no need to compromise. Experience the luxury of choice.

Transform your living space today with Cozy. Visit Cozy.ca. Cozey.ca. C-O-Z-E-Y.ca. The home of possibilities made easy. It's go time on Civilian Fridays, right here, right now, with the one and only Brian Burke. First of all, Burke, how are you today? I'm good, Jeff. How are you? I'm good. Still buzzing and still have a lot of questions from last night's closeout game at American Airlines.

The Stanley Cup final is set between the Oilers and the Florida Panthers. Before we get into some of the specifics of it, and I want to get your thoughts on the goalie pull specifically, how do you read the Oilers this year? Like, they damaged the Kings, they damaged the Knights, and now they've damaged the Dallas Stars. Your thoughts on Edmondson? Well, they're hard to figure out till the last month. They've been a Jekyll and Hyde team,

but I think the two big personnel changes are, they're much more determined and grittier lineup with Frederick and Andrew Kane in the lineup. They have meat, they have the ability to inflict punishment, to get mad, to hurt people. I think it changes the character of their team completely, ability to inflict punishment, to get mad, to hurt people. I think it changes the character of their team completely. And it seems to give it some looseness to the team.

They see more and eats with each other. I think Zach Hyman's gonna be sorely missed. I still think Edmonton is the team to beat right now. And you know, this is something you've talked about plenty with a lot of your teams and that is everybody has a role, but that's only one part of it. Like I look at Edmonton and I like last night, I look at Victor Arvidsson and his work along the boards.

And I'm like, you know, we think of Victor Arvidsson and normally we think, you know, open ice, toe drag this and scoring 35 goals. And there's Arvidsson with some great work along the boards, protecting the puck, chewing the clock, all of it. Say the same thing about the silly Pod Colson. It's one thing to get assigned a role,

it's another to accept it. And even if you don't like it, not have boo boo face about it. Like it seems like everybody has accepted the role they've been given here by Chris Knoblok. Not just accepted, I would say embraced Jeff. They've embraced the role. Pod Colson might be the biggest revelation

of anyone in the playoffs this year. He's a vicious hitting, hardworking guy. He's got a real defensive conscience. He's been excellent. And I thought he was just a spare part. I thought he was not a big part of the equation there. He's been terrific. So he's been a revelation for me.

But they're bigger, they're harder, they're more belligerent and that's something that they're going to need in this next round. You know, the, um, one of the other things, and you mentioned this a second ago, and that is how the Oilers play defense. Now, once upon a time in the NHL, there were teams that could, and we think of the Oilers of the eighties as the obvious example, score their way out of their problems.

Don't worry, we're down a couple of pucks. Don't worry, Connor and Leon are gonna score us out of these problems here. But we look at the Oilers, and the players themselves, led by Conor McDavid, taking a lot of pride in saying, everyone's knocked us for not knowing how to defend. Watch us defend. And they did a great job defending against the Dallas Stars.

We'll see against Florida, but do you have a thought on this explosively offensive team all of a sudden now playing solid playoff defense? Well, I think you can win. Oilers proved that. You can score your way out of your problems. It's been done recently, but not very often, and not very successfully for the

most part. Usually you have to keep pucks out of your net, have the net different until it makes sense. And that's the historical way to win. But this team is doing just that. They can defend, they can shut people down, and that's without their best defenseman all the series. They've won three rounds without their best defense. Well, their second best defenseman, if you like, Bouchard better. They've been missing the Viking, they call him. They've been missing a key guy. Now he's back.

So this gets worse. Troy Stetcher filled in, played really well. I like him. He's small, but he played hard. Now he's out of the lineup for taking out a really good player, put back in the Viking, because he's our best defenseman. They get better.

It's, um, it really, it really is fascinating. You know, the way you look at this Oilers team and some of the comparisons that have been drawn to ex Oilers teams, the one that faced off against the Islanders back in in 83 and ended up getting swept but then sort of learned the lessons etc. You know you look at this Oilers squad, Berkey, and I can't help with thinking, much like the Panthers last year, they've been to the final. They've been there. There's not going to be any surprises along the way.

This is a team that's going to carry some experience into the Stanley Cup final. Do you have a thought on that? On just maybe I'm being naive about it, but I can't help but thinking that that helps this team immensely. It would help them more if the team that are playing hadn't been in three years in a row.

That would be a bigger disadvantage, I think. The issue is right now in the NHL, you got a bunch of good teams. You got a bunch of good teams that can't win past the second round. You got Toronto, Carolina, you got Dallas all of a sudden can't win past the second round. That's a big problem because the teams you're ahead of are losing. Cause a very specific differences in my mind, mostly being physical play. So to me, the fact that Edmonton has been there before shows Florida. So take a number. You know, this is going to be an interesting series. Before we get to breaking down sort of Edmonton and the Florida Panthers, one thing

I wanted to get your, because I thought of you when I saw this one because One thing I wanted to get your, because I thought of you when I saw this one, because we all know that you have various codes for various events and there's a certain protocol that, that Brian Burke follows. And I'm curious your thoughts on Paul Maurice and that conversation with Rod Bryndamore saying, we're not gonna, we're not gonna get into the handshakes here. That's for the players only. Now Paul Maurice has done it before. Um, so maybe this is just something new. Maybe he's always wanted to say this and now that he's won the cup, he has the heft to be able to do

so. What did you think of Paul Maurice's idea that handshake alley is just for the players, Berkey? No one else. I have no problem with it. I don't agree with it. I like the handshake. The handshake, I shouldn't say it, no problem with it. I don't agree with it. I like the handshake the handshake I shouldn't say let me amend that I hate the handshake because I don't like the fact that teams that just got beat Are hugging each other and laughing and joking. It should be a solemn moment There should be like three guys in that line of the year close with you play junior with the blade University with you're playing the minors with those guys you have special bonds with fine hug them. Don't hug everybody and to It takes a half an hour to do the handshake fine. So no, if that's what Paul Maurice wants to do, I like Paul Maurice a lot.

Fine, do it yourself. It's like me wearing my tie the way I wear it. Who shares? It's become style. We've been over that story before. One of the interesting things about the handshakes, the one person that I always think about, well, there's a couple, there's Billy Smith,

who would just leave, like Billy wanted no part of it. You know, Andy Moog after the Mayday goal, Andy Moog was like, I'm not getting a handshake alley, I'm outta here, like forget it, we just got swept by the Sabres. But Stan Makita historically always hated handshakes. And I remember reading an interview with him, this is back in the early 60s, and he said,

it meant more to him as a player for Gordie Howe to come into the Chicago room and raise a glass of champagne to the Chicago Blackhawks who had just won than some phony empty calorie handshake on the ice. He said, that meant more to me as a competitor than getting out there and being forced to shake hands with the guys that had just beaten us or in Stan Makita's words I think he said how can I shake the hand of a guy who just reached into my pocket and took my money? What do you think of that, Berkey? Well, I had the good fortune knowing Stan Makita a little

bit, Mr. Makee, I call him. He was a great man. He did a lot, you know what he did a lot of work with? People don't realize this. Did a lot of work with hard of hearing players and young athletes with hearing impairment. To say that McKee was a great guy. I would never say no to Mr. Howell coming in the dressing room

after beating my team, because I'd be too afraid to. But I would recommend it as a course of combat. I don't know, back to the game last night, Brian, I don't know that I've ever seen, you've seen more hockey than I have, I don't know that I've ever seen a goalie pull during a timeout.

We've seen timeouts to calm teams down. We've seen goalie pulls to give your team a jolt. I don't know that I've ever seen it before to calm teams down. We've seen goalie pulls to give your team a jolt. I don't know that I've ever seen it before at the same time. Like when Ottinger at the end of that timeout skated back to his crease and then got, you know, summoned back by Peter DeBoer, I was stunned. Like before we get into the pull-its up,

have you ever seen that before? A goalie pull during a timeout? No, I haven't. I hope I never do again. I didn't like that. I'm a big fan of Pete DeVores. He played for me. He played Milwaukee in the IHL when I had him as an assistant GM in Vancouver. I love the guy, but I can't understand this. It doesn't make any sense. I blame the assistant

coaches here. Someone should have grabbed Pete. I think Pete lost his temper. Someone should have grabbed him and say, calm down. Whatever you say next is not going to be smart. Calm down. I've never seen a poll after a timeout and then a poll, especially the way emphatically embarrassed the goalie by the big hook sign, not knowing what was going on, I think the whole thing. I think Pete DeBoer would love to have those 30 or 45 seconds back. Yeah. I'll be honest with you, Brian, what was maybe even more surprising to me?

I'm surprised. Autinger didn't go out for the second. I was shocked that. I thought, I thought he was going right back. I honestly thought that, I thought that they were putting in the goalie, the change of goalie to Smith, Casey, played for me in Pittsburgh, great kid. I thought they were putting him back in at the next whistle. I thought honestly, okay. the change of goalie to Smith Casey play for me in Pittsburgh great kid. I thought they were putting him back in at the next whistle. I thought honestly okay Casey you go out calm things down.

Jake get your crap together and get back in there. I thought Mike Keenan did that a lot. Oh the goalie yellow and talk to him calm him down. I thought he's going back in. I thought for sure he'd go back in for the second. I don't think this was right. I don't think it was done right. If you were the, uh, let's say you're, you're Jim Nill. Uh, what do you say to Pete DeBoer after that series and that goalie poll? Well, I think you're entitled to Pete divorce a great coach.

I'm not going to say all of them coach because I don't use that terminology because I'm involved with the selection committee, but he's a great coach. and watching Nazem Kadri when he got in trouble against the Bruins. You could see him getting steamed up. I said to someone in the stands that night, I said to someone, why is one of the coaches talking to them, the assistant coach is talking to Naz. Getting him to calm down. You could see he was going to blow his tack. He did. I feel the same way here.

Someone should have stepped in and said, Pete, not a good idea. Just do whatever you're thinking of doing. Take your time out and think about this carefully. You know, you mentioned teams that can't get past the second round here and with Dallas, and this is like right to the top with, you know, with the owner, Tom Gillardi, who has, you know, I'll defend the owner here.

He's given this team everything they've asked for. All the support, financial and otherwise, all the resources. Jim Nel has gone out of his way, brought in, you know, a top 10 player in the NHL. Like Jim Nel this year, in this go for it year for the Dallas Stars, spent three first round picks this year.

Granland and a couple of first round picks for Rantanen. Like this was all in for the Dallas stars. If you're that organization owner, general manager, what's going through your mind here? Another, another flame out in the conference final. Well, first off, you got any credit where credit is due. They got beat by a really good team that's playing really well right now. Yep.

So let's not, let's not say Dallas screwed up here. Let's say they got beat by a team that's doing the same thing. You got to realize this, Jeff teams are selfish. They try to beat each other. They're trying to get drafted. We're trying to get players that you go get three first on pick. They go get three first on pick. Teams are selfish.

So you look at this and say, allare, they moved heaven and earth to win. So did Edmonton, so did Carolina, so did Florida, so did Toronto. They're all trying to do the same thing. They're all making similar moves, not exactly the same. They're adding different dimensions, but what was Florida's biggest fear? They're going to be real physical, so Toronto goes out, gets bigger, not big enough. It turns out. So all these teams are trying to catch up with the Joneses, but they can't quite catch up, someone will figure it out.

But Florida has been there three years in a row, no mistake, no accident. Why? And that's why they're playing each other again. That's why they're playing each other again. Together we are unsinkable. We are unsinkable.com. And speaking of again, here we go again talking about Connor McDavid. Like I look at that breakaway last night, Brian, and Rupe Hens is right on him. Like, and Rupe Hens, even though he's got the bad wheel,

he's a really good skater, obviously, and he's one of the best centers in the NHL. And I watch McDavid, like that is for coaches of young players, that's how you behave on a breakaway. The puck never went one side or the other. McDavid kept the puck in front of him. Hins could not strip it, couldn't get a stick on it, nothing.

I know Connor McDavid's the fastest player in the NHL and was trying to pull away from Hins, but Hins was right with him. Like the entire way, and McDavid still ends up burying that thing. I know we've all said a lot of things about Connor McDavid, shy of he invented oxygen, but do you have anything more after watching McDavid all through the playoffs, getting to the final, you have anything more to say about Connor McDavid? Yeah, the one thing there, I thought Rupé Hintz, he did keep track of him.

Remember, you've got two hands on your stick. You can't go as fast as the guy who's not carrying a puck. True. Rupe Hintz caught him, caught up to him, forced him to go to one side. I thought Rupe Hintz did a perfect job of making Connor McDavid go to his forehand there, but the goalie didn't play it that way. So, uh, nothing Connor McDavid does surprises me or disappoints me. It just makes me, it makes you watch. You watch the replay and say, did I just see that? I mean,

it was the first time I saw him play. We had TJ Brody and Mark Giorgianni, we're out on the fence. Connor started to wind up and both those guys turned and skated the other way. You'd see both their numbers as they skated away. You get enough foot speed to turn at the red line and have enough foot speed to match against Connor. So I've seen this from the get go. The guy is amazing. The best thing that happened in hockey since Wayne.

You know, it's, it's interesting you mentioned that with, with Brody and Giordano because I still remember. McDavid's first game in the NHL was against the St. Louis Blues. It was a Thursday night and I saw something that I had never seen before in the NHL. And it's exactly what you're talking about. Connor McDavid grabbing the puck in the older

zone and breaking out Jay Boulmester. All right. We're like the best skaters has ever seen. Turned. And I'm like, and he's a kid. He's 18 years old. I'm like, I just saw Connor McDavid turn Jay Bowmeister around and he's skating forwards back into his own zone.

And I'm saying to myself, I never thought I would see Jay Bowmeister show his number as he defended a rush. Both those guys, March year down was an all star defenseman. Yeah. And T. Dave roadie is one of the best skater defense, skating defense. I ever had both those guys turning and turn their numbers on Connor McDavid to try and keep up.

Unreal. Unreal. Uh, so how do you handicap this final? I mean, listen, Florida Panthers are skilled and tough and the oilers seem to be like on a mission here and they just mowed into the Dallas Stars like a hog in the truffles. What do you make of the Stanley Cup final here? Well, I learned from two prior rounds, I'm not going to bet against these two guys again. It's not going to bet against Connor and Leon ever again. So I'm going to take Edmonton, but I, there's a soft spot for me. I love the way Florida plays.

I love the way they changed the game. I love the way they made teams react to how they play. I love the throwback nature of the way they play. So I'm really indifferent to who wins, but I have to pick. I'm not going against Connor and Leon ever again. I've done it twice though. Both times it pissed me off. Okay. Outside of the Stanley Cup playoffs here, I want to get your thought on something. And I thought of you when I saw the announcement this

morning and I thought of, you know, the story you told me about making the Bobby Hole league trade when you're with Hartford. So Jarmo Kekulainen is named senior advisor of the Buffalo Sabres. So he'll work in concert with general manager Kevin Adams. First of all, your thoughts on the hire, and then I'm going to try to coax some stories out of you. Your thoughts on Jarmo, like this is Jarmo Kekulainen here. So like this is someone who could take over if things go sideways with the Buffalo Sabres. Jarmo Kekulainen comes in, senior advisor with the Swords.

Yeah, well first off, Jarmo's a real good guy. And I think they need a senior guy. I said this a couple weeks ago. I think having a senior guy to help their organization, they've got some really good pieces here. They've drafted really well, they had a bunch of high picks. They've got some really good pieces here. They've drafted really well. They had a bunch of high picks. They've actually done well with those picks.

They need, Kevin needs a guy to put the pieces together for him. So I salute the hire. I like Yarmul. I think it's exactly what they needed. I can't believe more teams haven't seen, watched the demise of analytics based GMs and said they need a guy who's actually done this job to help them.

I can't believe it, but good for Buffalo. The thing about Yarmou too, that I wonder about, like it's one thing, and he scouted before, we all know that. But when I think of Yarmou Kekulain and Berkey, I think of contracts. And the one thing that Yarmou was always consistent about in Columbus, he would always say, listen, sometimes you have the hammer as the manager, sometimes the player has the hammer as the player

in contract negotiations. So when you have the hammer, you should use it. Because when the player has the hammer, he will use it. Where do you think his influence is the biggest here? Whether it's trades, player evaluations, or is it contract negotiations? It should be all the above. Players have given away their right to... The players have taken away the right to negotiate from the teams. They've given away no trade clauses. from the teams. They've given away no trade clauses. Used to be you have eight, now it's no trades.

Look at what's happened in Toronto with no trades and trade restrictions. So that's number one. That fight is worth having. Term. Term bites you in the ass. That fight is worth having. So I think that fight on money, I used to tell my players, you're going to fight for the money. It's a hard cap system. I'm not going to apologize for that. Every dollar I save is being spent on another player. So I'm going to try and save money on you.

You don't like it. Get out. So to me, that fight is always worth having. The more teams should have that fight rather than just caving and giving trade restrictions, money term would be the three biggest things. But I think that's, that's an influence that they should have at all times. Every team should have that conscientious look at it at all times. Uh, do you have a thought on Matthew Darsh taking over, uh, with the

Allenders long time, former player, long time assistant GM with the Tampa Bay Lightning, getting some business done. Voguefist comes back and Kyle Palmeri with the two-year deal, 4.75 AAV on that one. I think that was in the drawer actually. It was. Kyle Palmeri's. Yeah. So that one for sure, I like it.

I like Kyle Palmeri. I had him once. He's a good player, he's a good kid. I think with Matthew Darsh, I like the fact that he started working with the Lightning 12 years ago, I want to he started working with the lightning 12 years ago. I say, I want to say it's 11 or 12 years ago. So he was there for two cops. He worked his way up. He played at McGill, which my daughter goes to McGill. So I like McGill. And he worked his way

hard up his way. Not too many McGill guys want to play in the NHL. This kid did that. So you got to work hard and listen and get better. So I like all everything about his background, including his tutelage and his apprenticeship at the knee of top guys. So I like that. I like the hire. Let me get your thoughts on, listen, one of the big stories in the NHL when we look at the free aging class and I think we're all wondering where he's going to land. Like we know that we're talking about Mitch

Marner here. Um, we know that Carolina, yeah, I know shocking, right? Here we go. Talking about 16 on the blue team. Uh, we know that Carolina has shown interest before there was that conversation, uh, with the Maple Leafs, uh, over Miko Rantanen.

I don't believe that that the interest from Carolina's point of view has, has waned at all. Um, I think there's interest, I think we all do I don't believe that the interest from Carolina's point of view has waned at all. I think there's interest, I think we all do, with Vegas and Mitch Marner. I would wonder about Chicago. I mean, think of teams that have the need and the cap space.

Listen, I also wonder about the Dallas Stars now. Now that a lot of their forwards kind of went silent, this playoff, but nonetheless, do you have a thought on, you know, what's out there for Mitch Marner and maybe a place where you are a couple of places you could see him landing? How many teams are in the NHL Jeff? 32, sir.

There are 32. I'd say they're about 30 lined up to sign Mitch. Mitch is a really good hockey player. A hundred points, elite penalty killer, great kid. As clear to me anyway, he's looking elsewhere. He wants to look elsewhere. And the way Brad Sluvink gave his press conference yesterday, sounds to me like they've reached the same conclusion.

I don't think that's all bad for the Toronto Maple Leafs. I think there's a significant group of people here that think it's time for Mitch to move on. Now, he can't replace 104 points, 102 points very easily. They're not going to be able to do that very well, but there's going to be about 26 teams lined up to talk to Mitch Marner. Don't worry about it. Big Willie Stiles, by the way, in the chat says, how many teams

win the Stanley Cup, Jeff? Did you check with the league today, Berkey? But that, uh, I'm pretty sure it's still one. I think it's the Walter cup too. Yeah. So one, uh, Minnesota back to back champions. We, uh, we certainly congratulate them. Um, what did you make of, uh, of Brad True Living's press conference?

Like he's, I mean, he's got this down to a, to a, to a, to a science, um, really laid back conversational press conference from Brad Traliving. I thought he handled very diplomatically both the Mitch Marner and John Tavares questions. I think one of the most interesting things he talked about was maybe needing to allocate resources elsewhere. I wonder if that means the blue line.

What did you make of one of your old protege's last night or yesterday morning rather? Well I thought he was really good. I thought he had a great teacher. Yes. I thought you know talking about changing the DNA that I wish I had thought of that phrase. That's Brian Burke phraseology. Change your DNA. That's a really good way of saying it but he's right he made significant changes they got bigger they got tough they have much better on D go telling improve all positive this guy's already had a very positive impact the trauma police it's not enough they need to go farther

so to me if they take the Mitch Marner money out 14 million or whatever it is they got that to spend elsewhere It's not enough. They need to go farther. So to me, if they take the Mitch Marner money out, 14 million or whatever it is, they got that to spend elsewhere. That's where they're going to spend. I thought the response is he gave her frank, truthful, and blunt. And that's all you want from a guy at a press conference at the end of the year. Just be blunt. Just be truthful. Give us the goods. When you managers start talking, I always have to, when, when you managers start talking, we always have to put on our GM decoder rings. Uh, was he talking about, even though all the blue liners are all locked up and

have term, he's still shopping for a blue liner. Like I wonder about Aaron Echblad. I wonder what Aaron Echblad either residing in Florida, doubtful. I wonder about Aaron Echblad in Dallas. And I wonder about Aaron Echblad in Toronto, and I wonder about Aaron Echblad in Toronto. Do you think he's talking about adding more D? I think he's looking at everything right now. Remember, when you play when you're GM, you play a game of cards and cards get dealt.

So the deck you're playing with changes daily once free agency kicks in. So a team you thought would be a factor all of a sudden they signed someone else they're not a factor anymore. Mitch Martin removed she got 14 win in the cap space all of a sudden they got that money back to spend. So it's a changing thing but I would say to look at everything right now you have to look at everything you just lost again even though you've made significant progress, you just lost again. All those teams are in the same boat. Carolina, Florida, they're all looking the same thing.

Dallas. I kind of always look at managers and how they read the landscape and make their moves. And I kind of liken it to this. It's like doing a Rubik's cube, but the Rubik's cube is always fighting back. And the Rubik's cube is always sort of changing on its own. So just when you think you have the whole thing figured out, all of a sudden the Rubik's cube decides to change. So you have to change accordingly with it.

Does that feel accurate to you, Berkey? Yes. These teams are selfish. They all want to win? Yeah. They'll never lose sight of that pack. Teams are selfish. They all wanna win? Yeah, they'll never lose sight of that pack. Teams are selfish, they're trying to beat you. Every, you get up every morning, you're thinking,

all right, how do I make my team better today? What do you think the other 31 guys are thinking while they're driving to work? How do I make my team better today? It's a vicious group. Pirates, I believe you used to call them. They're selfish. Pirates, selfish pirates.

Okay, a couple of, I wanna play something that popped up yesterday on social media. Zach's got this one queued up. It is some vintage Berkey from a few years ago. Have a look at this, Brian. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Hardest sport in the world to play is hockey. Why is it the hardest sport, would you say?

Oh, because the athletic ability that you need to play, you do all... So take a football player, baseball player, basketball player. Everything they do, they hold the object of the game in their hand and they're doing it in their shoes. We remove the object of the game with a stick and we put skates on. You can win a gold medal in the Olympic in two disciplines for skating alone. We expect our players to do it as a matter of course. And then you make the full contact.

So you can't just be good at it. You gotta be fearless too. It's art of sport in the world of play. I love hearing you talk about hockey, Berkey. What do you remember from that one? I don't remember that one. I remember having a speech, I've given that speech a number of times over the years.

I believe that. I believe that the hockey player is the best athlete in the world. For all the reasons I just said that's an old clip actually. It's very apropos. Still rings true today. Berkey Stanley Cup final is set. We look forward to getting your analysis and thoughts on it. The Oilers and the Florida Panthers. Thanks as always. Enjoy your weekend and glad you mentioned the the Walter Cup as well. Congratulations, Minnesota Back-to-back champions. Thanks, Burke. You will talk in seven days pal. Thanks, too I can't get out my head, lost all ambitions day to day

Guess I can call it a ride I went to the dark man, he tried to give me a little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine I'm not against those methods but I knew It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixing my mind I turned on the record I turned on the music It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixed in my mind I do wanna break it I turned on the music I do wanna break it

I turned on the music But you send up that battle that you're sometimes losing Helping on the days that went wrong We are unsinkable.com