The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Brian Burke on the Leafs Identity Shift and more

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Jeff Marek is joined first by Brian Burke to break down everything from the Maple Leafs’ tight win over the Calgary Flames to the latest around the NHL. The two dissect Toronto’s early-season identity shift without Mitch Marner, how Craig Berube is adjusting the lineup, and whether the Leafs are finally showing signs of chemistry. Burke also gives his candid thoughts on Nazem Kadri’s play in Calgary, the Flames’ direction under Craig Conroy, and the delicate balance between “retool” and “rebuild” with a new arena on the horizon. The conversation then turns nostalgic as Jeff and Brian revisit Today in NHL History, swapping classic stories about Jaromir Jagr, the Hartford Whalers, and how front-office dynamics have evolved over the decades.SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Shark Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There is probably no way, barring a major colossal collapse that the Utah Mammoth are going to draft high enough that they're going to have to pay someone more than Logan Cooley earns now. We're going to get more into this in a couple of moments with Brian Burke. We'll talk more about that deal. We'll talk about the Thomas Harley deal. We'll talk about issues around the NHL. We'll talk about the Calgary Flames and the Toronto Maple Leafs, Brian. after all, it was at that game. So here it is, the blueprint for the show today.

Powered by Fanduel, as always. Download the app today and play your game at Fanduel. And coming up on the program, it's Wednesday. That means the one and only Brian Burke, who joins me each and every midweek program, Johnny Lazarus, from Morning Cup of hockey. We'll stop by as well. We'll get into the Leafs and the Flames.

And if you're Craig Conroy, what are you thinking now? And if you're thinking rebuild, how do you go about it? again, more conversation about Logan Cooley and Thomas Harley and their extensions. We'll get into some conversation about Matthew Schaefer with Johnny Lazz a little bit later on. And again, I will continue to ask the question. If that's Cooley's deal, what will Brian Bredd, Connor Bedard's, what will Connor Bred's deal look like? With that, we'll bring aboard the one and only Brian Burke, who joins me each and every Wednesday here on

the broadcast. Brian, how are you today? I'm good, Jeff. How are you? Good. I have a heart. Hartford Whalers still on my mind, and so I was happy when I see the shot to see the 92-93 team over your right-hand shoulder. I know a team that's near and dear to your heart. We talked about the whalers last week and the throwback jerseys and playing the Carolina, playing the Colorado Avalanche and the Nords and all that, et cetera. So, and we'll see it again in the new year. But nonetheless, before we get to the game last night, you went to the Calgary Toronto game.

I wanted to get your thoughts on the two big deals that we saw, most specifically Logan Cooley. This one, this one breaking this morning, this one coming to fruition this morning. Eight years, $80 million for the franchise center for the Utah Mammoth. I like it because you got your franchise guy at under 10% of the contract and you're probably not going to draft high enough to ever have to worry about someone going over Logan Kooley's number, at least in the short term. What did you make a Bill Armstrong's deal here? I agree with exactly what you said, Jeff. I think that this player has not earned this money yet, but he's going to. I think he said perspective deals

that we're going to pan out well for the team but I think he's overpaid right now for what he's done but that doesn't mean it's not going to be overpaid very long. I like it. Yeah, he's a special player and you know, with Dylan Gunther and J.J.

Peterka, it's kind of, they've kind of formed this line that you look at and you say to yourself like this has the potential to be one of the dominant lines in the NHL for a long time. And I'm curious just your thoughts because I love talking to you about other general managers.

You know, one of my favorite hockey books is behind the moves, the Jason Ferris book, and you're a big part of that. And I've bemoan to you the fact that, you know, GMs don't talk about, you know, what happens in their day-to-day lives. And you seldom hear general managers talk about other general managers. Just do you have a quick thought on Bill Armstrong here? I mean, in the off-season, it was the J.J. Pertica deal. Now it's the Logan Cooley deal.

Do you have a thought on how Bill Armstrong operates in Utah? Well, he had to navigate through real rough waters in Arizona. He had an ower that was, you know, really not in place at all. Didn't say anything really that made sense to me. And so he was flying without clear ownership direction and got that now in Utah. So it seems to moving the right way. They're an exciting team. They're fun to watch.

And they won eight to roll, I think, or seven in a row before last night. Seven, yeah. It's an impressive group. from Bill Armstrong, very quiet, deleter guy, real good guy. It's got to feel great, too, if you're Bill Armstrong. I mean, listen, we all know the situation that was in Arizona, specifically with the last owners and how frustrating that must be as a manager to try to, as you point out, navigate those waters.

And you're feeling you're trying to put a team together in your handcuff. We have one arm tied behind your back. And now we get to Utah, and everything you see from Ryan and Ashley Smith, we need a, you know, we need a practice facility. Bam, in one year they have a practice facility. It's like I talked to Bill on the show here on Monday and he talked about his job as manager removing all the excuses. Like every excuse you could have as a player, it's his job to get rid of. That must be a nice environment for Bill Armstrong to walk into after the Arizona experience. It's a great environment for him to walk into and he's enjoying it very much. I can tell you

that that will get gold soon where he can turn to the owner and say can he fix this to return into making deals now but for now it's great and he's a great guy and the owner seems like a real good guy too uh and he's a massive fan at at the end of the day too um okay so so Logan coolly is in at 10 million dollars I'm just going to run down some some of the other key pieces of the of the future here that have already been locked up by Utah so So Mikhail Sirkachev is in at 8.5. J.J. Petrka, the deal with the Buffalo Sabres, in at 7.7. Clayton Keller, who was done in Arizona, and is still one of the most underrated players in the NHL at 7.15.

Dylan Gunther at 7.14. Karel Vermelka. The netminder at 4.75. If you believe in the philosophy of, you know, identify your core and lock them up for as long as you can. And I'm curious if you believe in that philosophy, Berkey, they've done it. Like, that's their core. And there's other guys that are like, T. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. L. is going to come in. He's going to be a really good NHL. for a long time. Demetre Simashev is already there. If you believe in identifying the core and lock them up for a long time,

in Utah, they've done it, Berkey. Yeah, you better be right, though, because those long-term deals age very poorly when they're not right. You got too much money locked up. The term is what kills you. The money never kills you. It's the term that kills you. So I think these are all safe deals. I think they'll age well. I think the caps are to continue to look for at least two more years. So I think it's a percentage of cap they work. I think they'll age well.

But for now, everything's going right. And the other thing about Utah as well as both the Minnesota Wild and the St. Louis Blues, excuse me, as the Minnesota Wild and the St. Louis blues kind of take themselves out early, specifically St. Louis, who just seem like right now rudderless, they've just called up Dallabor divorce. Jim Montgomery's saying, you know, not only is he going right into the lineup. He's going to be on the power play tomorrow. Like, they're trying everything to jumpstart the St. Louis Blues team.

And as those two teams struggle out of the gate, there's Utah saying if you're leaving these points out there, we'll take them. Like, this has been an impressive performance so far from Utah to kick off the season, Brian. It has been. The coach is a good coach, too. He never gets to talk about for that. He's a really good coach. He's doing a really good job.

They got a good team. they drafted well, I traded well. It's a good group. I'm not sure they're ready for prime time yet, but I think they're ready for the playoffs for sure. Yeah, I don't know how far, how deep they get. But as far as, like, getting some playing time in for a full season and into the playoffs, it seems like Utah is right there.

Thomas Harley, a key piece of that blue line for the Dallas stars. In a lot of ways, for a lot of people outside of Dallas, Berkey, he kind of had his coming out party at the Four Nations last year, where he was one of Team Canada's top defenders, And everybody turned their head and said, wow, Dallas has got another great one here. People in the OHL in Mrs. Saga, James Richmond coach there, they've known about him for the longest time. But he signs an extension. It's an interesting one.

It's an eight-year deal. 10.587. And the nuance on this one is he is making more money than Miro Haskinen. But when Miro Haskinen signed his deal, it was for 10.4.4. percent of the cap. Harley's deal comes in at 10.18. So the percentage, as he signs it, is a little less than Miro Haskinen, even though he's taking home more money. Is this how managers talk? Yeah, it is. It changed about eight, ten years ago. They started talking about percentage of the cap, and that is the key. The key is not their concrete dollars. It's percentage of the cap.

That's how the agent stock, that's how the GM stock, that's the language we all use, percentage of the cap. So Harley's Steel makes sense, even though it might not to some people. Yeah, it's just to have a thought on the player, he's become like really quickly. And again, like last year, the debutante's ball was at four nations. But really quickly, he's distinguished himself as not just one of the top defenders on Dallas, but one of the top defenders in that conference slash NHL. Yeah, I think I want to see more. I haven't sold that this player's as good as he played right away.

He was really good. And sometimes that's not followed up with the same level of performance. I want to see more. But I like this guy a lot. I wonder how they kept them under wraps. Well, I'll tell you what, it's a good thing you're at the Toronto Calgary game last night because you would not want to watch that Dallas-Washington game. There was, you've seen this before, Brian.

What happens if you go to a hockey game and nothing happens? that was the nothing happens. There was a stretch, Berkey, for 20, I think it was like 23 minutes where the Dallas Stars didn't register a single shot on net. And Washington wasn't much better at all. The lone goal in this one was a deflection off Martin Farivari's stick on a centering pass on the corner from Tyler Sagan.

As a manager, when you're watching games like that, there's low event and then there's no event. That was a no event. game on both sides like what goes through your mind as a manager when you're watching this? What goes through your mind as you say it yourself I'm sure glad we got their money on the way in

and then fortunately our game we don't have many clunkers they don't have any really bad but when we do we have some really bad game that's where you pray a player will do something a lot of to start a fight or run the goalie do something to get some life in the building

there was nothing but for the Dallas Stars fans, they had the one-nothing lead that they sat on. And that was it. It was, yeah, that was, that was an old brown shoe of a game, as one commentator is known to say. The Toronto Maple Leafs and the Calgary Flames. Now, before the game, you're on a panel, Ryan Leslie anchoring, with, with, with Mayday and I thought you had the line of the night when I think Mayday said like oh yeah you gave me away like three times too Brian you said like I gave you the two

best moments of your career Brad May specifically the Stanley Cup in 2007 what was it like getting back together with Mayday oh he's awesome but a great kid I call him a kid he's not a kid we're a great kid we're a great young man I had him three three different times he's a key player on all three all three times I have I was there for a thousandth NHL game in Toronto, was their first Stanley Cup. Great cut. Yeah, he really is. What did you make of the game itself? Like Toronto, Toronto squeaks out a win, Max Domew with a couple of goals. The Maple Leafs still aren't getting any faster as a team. Calgary was close but no cigar. Nazim Kadri was good in this one,

specifically early. What did you take away from watching the flames and the Maple Leafs last night? It's Scotia Bank. I don't think Toronto has shown any speed as it seems. I think they have speed, but they're not playing fast hockey. They were a little better in the last two games, but they don't demonstrate their foot speed, which they have. They have to dump the puck in differently

to produce more puck battles. But I thought Ty Domey had a couple, a nice game, a couple of them. One goal was kind of quirky. And the giveaway for the winning goal for Toronto was a horrible giveaway. And he just hate to see a team

lose a point. It's three to three. They cop the fuck up and they lose the game in regulation. So they caught up a point. point at a time where Calgary's going to need those points. But I thought O-Tis played well at times. I thought Calgary's power play looked like a February power play,

very quick in the park around, moving the puck around. Usually you see fluid movement like that later in the year. What do you think of Nazim? I mean, there's a player that you drafted for the Toronto Maple Leafs back when you're running the whole operation. I thought he, doesn't, I think he's like one player that competes hard every night. Specifically, he has, albeit mainly in losing. causes this year for Calgary, but I thought

Cadre was really good last night. Yeah, he competes. He likes playing against, he likes the big stage. He likes playing in Toronto. He played there before, obviously. It drafted there. Familiar with the big stage. Likes the big stage. I thought he competed hard and played well.

That video that's made the rounds for so many years about you on the draft floor, talking to Brian Murray, about trading the pick and you said you're taking, you're taking Hadry, you're not moving it. Marie went and took Jared Cowan, the big defenseman from the Western Hockey League.

Can you take us back to that conversation? Was there like any more from that? Was there like a lead-up in the days and weeks before, or that just with that conversation just sort of drop on you on the draft floor? Well, we wanted to take Nazan, but we knew they picked right after us. Ottawa picked. I think we took Naz at 7 and Ottawa was picking 8. Someone else was close behind that was in on us, too.

But we came to the floor, and Brian Murray, I felt badly. Once Brian Murray passed, I apologized beforehand, before he passed, and he said, no problem, you didn't even remember hardly. But I thought it was very dismissive and rude to a guy really respected a lot. He said, what about candidates? Now we're taking him and kind of sloughed him off. And it turned away and went toward the draft floor. So I thought I was rude to Brian Murray, which I'd never be.

I really thought the world of him. But we were bent on taking off him. We really liked everything about it. It was a compete level, skill level, character, everything. We had to straighten them out a little bit to get him to play, but we really like them. Incredibly talented player, plays hard. He's one that teams have, you know, called about for a couple of years,

at least one year, maybe two, to Craig Conroy with the Calgary Flames. Look, Calgary's in a tough spot this year. They're closer to the bottom than a playoff position. We wonder about Nazim Kadri. we wonder about Blake Coleman, Rasmus Anderson, you know, fill in the blank on veteran players here. I think Nazim Kadri is going to be a real target for a lot of teams. I've mentioned Dallas.

I believe that that's a real fit. But it doesn't end with Dallas. There'll be a number of teams look at me. Listen, his old team, the Colorado Avalanche could be one as well. At this point in his career, based on what you've seen, If the Calgary Flames do move Cadry, what are they getting at this point in this career? Well, I think he's still a number of two to the center. He can play in the three-hole.

He's good enough. He's competitive enough. He can play in the three-hole. He gives you some jam. That's something with all teams value. He gives you a playoff experience. He gives your offensive ability. Can you run a power play?

I can get a very valuable asset in a nod to the academy. He's got lots of runway left. Yeah. If you're Craig Conray right now, the last week was a tough one. A pair of losses to the Winnipeg Jets, a loss against the Montreal Canadiens kicking off this week with a loss against the Toronto Maple Leafs in tough fashion, as you point out.

If you're Craig Conroy, A, what are you thinking right now? And B, if you're thinking rebuild, how do you do this? Well, I don't sure. Murray Edwards was the owner I worked for. I'm not sure that word rebuilds something that's a tedious vocabulary. I don't think Murray likes that word. I never used it with them, so I don't know specifically.

But we were never in a rebuild when I was there. I don't think he's going to have the patience or the stomach for that. I don't think he will. So I think it's more, let's see we could do the fix this and keep it going. A lot of teams have managed to avoid the big rebuild as they got better. Yeah. The one mitigating factor here. And maybe I'm overstating this.

But I just look at the Detroit Red Wings and that rink, which I don't even think we can call it a new rink anymore. It's a new old rink, how we describe it. It's just a rink that hasn't seen the playoffs. Calgary has a new rink coming in two years. Is that a mitigating factor here? Like, is the thinking in Calgary, to the best of your knowledge, when we open this rink, we need to be a competitive hockey team. We can't be in, you know, year two or year three of a complete tear down.

We need to be a competitive squad when we show off the new rink. Well, I've never discussed it with Connie. I've never talked to America. about it. My guess is yes. Any team coming in a new building does not want to be at the bottom. So if you're going to take some steps, so you've got two years to do it and take them now

so you're a competitor coming out of the gate. It's my guess. But I never talked to Murray about that. I don't think Murray would be big on doing a total rebuild at all. Interesting time. While you were there, it's interesting because we've talked a lot about,

you know, what happens with Calgary here? They've never drafted in the top three. They've never been in that position. the flames drafted, when you were there, drafted four and took Sam Bennett. That would have been the Philadelphia draft. I think it would surprise a lot of hockey fans. Like, this is a team that came over from Atlanta in 1980, and they've never had a top three draft pick,

which to me is astounding, Berkey. Well, it's astounding, but it's astounding in a good way. It means they've always been competitive. Yeah. I never wanted to have high picks. I told my team, people think, oh, are tanking. I told my teams when we were eliminated, I said, okay, we've got 11

years left, 12 years left, whatever. Let's try and run the table, win them all. Let's try and mess up everyone else's playoff hopes. Let's try to knock a couple teams out. Let's change this seeding rankings for a couple. Let's be a factor in the playoffs here, but we won't beat. Let's make it hurt for

the other teams. Brian, I want to ask you about one of your previous teams as well, and that is the Pittsburgh Penguins. Tough not to cheer for Sidney Crosby, and now all of a sudden, you have Genie Malkin. He's heated up. Listen, last year in the first five games, he had 11 points as well. So he kind of does have this in his background, and that is hot starts off the beginning of a season.

Last night, a big game against the Philadelphia Flyers, Keystone State rivalry. When you look at what's happening with Pittsburgh right now, and they find themselves early on in a playoff position, and you look at where Crosby is in the scoring, and you look at where Malkin is in the scoring, what are you thinking? You know these guys. You know this organization.

Well, I think the coaching change has really helped. I'm not knocking Mike Sullivan. I'm just saying I think the Nangor responds to the new coach. They seem to like what he's doing. And he's getting new life out of the old guys. Not to Sid and Tanger, or not just Sid and Malkin, but Tanger, too. Russell Tamm looks great. He looks like he turned back the clock.

So they're playing really well. I could see them standing in there and making a playoff spot again. For sure. Really, eh? Damme's as an underrated coach. Yeah. You see, the one thing we wonder about, too, is, I was using the quote yesterday. It's an old LBJ quote.

Plans are useless, but planning is everything. You go into a season and you have a plan and then different things happen throughout the season. So you've got to throw that plan out because plans essentially are useless and you need to sort of go along with where the season is carrying you. If you're the penguins, if you're Kyle Dubus and the penguins actually find themselves in and around a point, playoff spot. Could we actually see this team adding? Oh, it's way too early to say that, but for sure. The answer is yes, although it's way too early.

First off, you're talking about older players. They usually get banged up a little bit. Yep. So they could calm down a little bit, but, Vieti Malkin looks like he lost 15 pounds. I don't know if he did, but he looks like he looks great. It's feet of fear, light, go a little while, looks happy. And being happy is a big part of things for, you know,

for her to do well. So I can see that for sure. You know what's, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Malkin because that line and he may be the smallest on it, Anthony Mantha and Justin Brasso and Malkin, like they get out there and they look like, you know, the, the Philadelphia Flyers or your main mariners back in the American hockey league in the, in the mid to late 70s. They're massive out there, Brian. Yeah, it's good size. I hate that. I hate big teams. I really hate. Yeah, you've never been a fan, never been a fan of four-hour games either. Yeah, we know that about you.

A quick thought, before I wrap up with you, on a couple of issues. One, there is very much something happening in Montreal, and we've talked about plenty. But the one story that's not getting a ton of attention, as much as everyone is in love with Demidov and Kolkofil with another overtime winner yesterday, and Nick Suzum, with three points and he's got a point streak going there. Throughout all of this, as much as we thought that Samuel Montenbo was going to be a massive story for them this year if they're going to have success. Jakob Dobish, the netminder, has been tremendous. I mean, he has played some previous, but for casual hockey fans, that's not a name that just rolls off the tongue.

This is like introducing Jacob Dobish. And you throw him into this entire mix with the Montreal Canadiens. and you say something weird is happening here. How do you see the habs? Well, the future of gold fending is scrambles. It's assigned a bunch of tall guys who can play and see what works out. Vegas did other teams who are down in Colorado. We placed both their goal tennis in one month.

I mean, it's unreal. So the Akkadolvish is a great story. And it's a surprise, but it probably shouldn't be because he's big of athletic. He's worked his way up. So now they've got two goal-tenders. That's a lovely problem to have. So many problems for Kent and Jeff there. Let me close on this one.

A very important win last night for the Boston Bruins. Morgan Geeky with his eighth goal, he's been a nice surprise for the Boston Bruins. This season, they beat the Islanders five to two. But this is a team that has struggled and has had its issues. If you're the Boston Bruins, at what point are you making the decision like we're in or we're out like do you wait I think do you wait 20 games if you're if you're the Boston Bruins until you start saying you know what there's not a lot of there there we need to start moving on to see what this second edition looks like or much like you're talking about with Calgary you just say screw it we're the Boston Bruins we don't rebuild here well first of all I think there's a lot of the second thing screw it we're the Boston Burroughs we don't rebuild here second it's too early to make that cost or to get proper value on guys you would move.

You have to move the season long and little farther so teams can properly identify their needs and pay appropriate prices. Right now, you won't get appropriate prices on anyone until the race to solidify a little bit. So I'd say wait 20 games. U.S. Thanksgiving is always a popular landmark. They go with that and see what's going on.

Was it for you? Were you always a U.S. Thanksgiving? I watched football in the U.S. Thanksgiving. Yeah, I guess a little bit. I just always worried more about how my team was playing at that time. We were fighting while and losing. You can live with that for a short period of time. I always based my moves on how I thought we were playing as a team.

Most impressive team to you right now. We'll close on that one. Like we mentioned Utah, they've been fantastic. The penguins, I think, are surprising a lot of people here. Is there a team that either impresses, you or you just like watching right now that you look at and you say yeah you know what that's that's my style of team well utah's fun to watch and they dress the heavy way which i love and then but montreal is the most fun to watch right now for me montreal they got so many good

young players and they play so hard they're fun to watch i'm not sure they can keep this up uh it has been fun um let me let me close with this because there's one thing that we do on this show this this hockey history segment um it's a sponsored feature with the uber Eats, and you would be the perfect person for one of these history facts. Okay, Hungry for Hockey History, a presentation of Uber Eats. Uber Eats is enabling fans to maximize their fandom all season long with exclusive game day deals on the app. From game day eats to paper plates and napkins, if you're hosting, to all the

ingredients you need to make your favorite game day dip. Before, during, and after the game, Uber Eats is assisting every fan's hockey experience all season long. So, Zach, there are three that you normally highlight, one about Gordy Howe, one about Kirk Muller. But, Zach, can you give us the October 29, 2013 this day in hockey history? I want to ask Berkey about someone. Yep, 2013. Yarmir Yager recorded his 119th career game-winning goal moving in past Phil Esposito, who had 118 for the most since the 1967 NHL expansion.

Awesome. Bricky, I want to ask you a question about Yarmory Yager. When you're with the Vancouver Canucks and you were interviewing, you know, Nolan and Primo and Ritchie and Sador and Hatcher, all these other players for the draft, what do you remember about talking to Yager? Oh, we got your volume. Hang on, oh, there we go ahead. Okay, he played in Prague. He was playing in Claddon, I think. He was in Prague for a game.

and I took him for an interview at a hotel room. I said to him, the Army, have you ever been a captain? That's one of the questions that we asked the player. If you're a star player, you've never been a captain, that's a major red flag.

No. And the translator says, he says no. And I heard him say, no. You don't have to translate that. Why not? Because I've always played with players

who are two years older than I am. I thought, that's the only good. answer that question ever ever uh as a follow-up were you're a fan of him during he's still playing by the way he's still paying he's never going to make it to the hall of fame while he's alive because he won't stop playing hockey but did you have a thought on on yager the player well i haven't calgary at the end it wasn't a perfect setup for him or us but uh he's had a great for he's but a champion he's a wonderful international player but one of the greatest players ever

No question. Yeah, he's a horse, and what a skilled player. Burkey, thanks for giving a peek of your heart for Wheeler's picture. Love it. And we will talk to you in seven days. See the Navy sweaters? Yeah, I know. You love those.

I know. That's the Berkey's signature, right? They got rid of that after I left, too. The Brasperineves of both. Yeah, but that was on the Anaheim general manager. That wasn't you. We're not letting you dive on the grenade for that one, Ryan. Thanks, pal.

Thanks. It's me, myself, and how this is going to be fixed in my mind. I do want to back in it. I turned on the music. I do want to back in a day. I turn on the music. Fixing up, help, out. I don't get you sometimes do it.

I've been on the day that's the way we're wrong.