The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Brian Burke Relives the Martin Brochu Acquisition

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

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We will bring aboard the one and only our Friday staple, our favorite around here. And he loves answering your questions. The one and only Brian Burke joins me once again here on the sheet on a Friday afternoon. Burke, how are you today, my friend? Good, Jeff. I'm at the Capitol Grill in Beacon Hill outside of Boston. So the lighting is a little odd, but don't be, it looks like a funeral home or something in here, but don't be alarmed.

You look like there should be like black curtains behind you or something like that. I'm like, you're at a crematorium or something, Bricky, what are you doing? I know. What are you doing, pal? It looks like a funeral home. I'm very much alive.

I like the way the camera looks up. It's almost like, it's like Brian Brooks, Phantom of the Opera. You should have like a purple half mask over your face or something like that high up in the high up in the gondola. Hey I was just mentioning before he came on the idea of a best defensive defenseman award. Mark Edward Vlasic who passed career hit career game 1300 all with the San Jose Sharks mentioned that in his mind it's outrageous that there isn't a best defensive

Defenseman award now you might look at that and say okay. He's trying to give himself an award here You know years ago. He would have been in contention for that But what do you think about the idea of essentially Berkey a selkie trophy for defensemen? a Selkie trophy for defensemen. Well, I mean, I'm getting sick of too many awards. There used to be five or six, now there's 18. Yeah. It's gonna be 30 before long. I wouldn't oppose it.

Like, philosophically, I understand the rationale. I don't think it's outrageous at all. The pickles. I don't think it's outrageous. I think it might be an oversight. But it's been talked about for a dozen years or more They said the Bobby or award for offensive defense But lose a little bit of translation for me in that Bobby or was a great defensive defenseman Bobby or had 53 fights. He wasn't just an offensive player

Bobby or was a complete player and a really good one a great one And so to me if you say we're going to do reduce the skill level. So Chris Tannib would be my vote if we were the defensive defenseman of the year. But Chris Tannib, I would say, has a lower skill level. You need to play that style than Kyle McCarr does. So why would those trophies be on a par? So to me, I would take it with a grain of salt. I wouldn't fight about it. I don't care enough about it to fight. And I'm just curious, like through your history as well and defensemen that you've seen,

and maybe Rod Langway is the best example of this, you know, historically, like if you're gonna pick a name for a best defensive defense, like who are, and maybe even just go through your teams. Like when we look at Anaheim, we'll focus a lot on Niedmeier and Pronger certainly, but I always say there was the big three with you guys and I'll always throw Francois Beauchemin

into that conversation. But when you look at all the teams that you were involved in and the blue lines, which were the stay at home dogs, the defensive D that you always felt didn't get enough credit? Well, I know every Swedish player is gonna to nod their head when I say this, Mathias Holm was the best defensive defenseman I ever had. I never got any accolades at all. Shot blocking machine, physical hip checker.

The last of the great hip checkers. Hip check's a lost art. Because they admit she looks so silly, people don't try it anymore. Mathias Holm was a great, excuse me it's a great hip checker so to me he would be the best defensive defense an eyebrow I know right away Francois Beauchemin will be raising his eyebrows I had a couple other good ones too but I would say Matias Olin is the guy no one ever talks about Matias Olin he was quietly an excellent player. Let me transition here, but talk about another Vancouver Canuck and that's JT Miller. I'm not sure if he had a chance to watch the Los Angeles game last night, but I mean that wasn't exactly

a command performance by Miller. Tauket sending him to the end of the bench. He barely played, didn't crack double digits. I know Tauket tried to give him as soft a landing as he could afterwards, but I mean we all saw the barking on the bench and it feels, Brian, like this is, we're either at, what did Churchill say, it's not the end but the beginning of the end. This is after the Blitz in World War II, but like that's kind of what it feels like. Like whether we're at the end or the beginning of the end, something feels like it's happening or has to happen now with JT Miller. Yeah, I think it's a breaking point, too.

I would say last night, because I've said till now, these two should be able to sort this out. You're dealing with real stubborn people, too. JT Miller, I don't know. Well, he's a stubborn guy. Talk, I know. Well, he's a stubborn guy. Talk. I know. Well, he's a stubborn guy. They're reaching a point now where it's so public that the breed, the break, had break has to come at some point.

I think you've gone beyond the point of no return with this, with this pair of players. And I say a pair cause there's two players involved, but I know one thing and neither one of them has covered themselves with glory. I think Tuck would like to have back some of the things he said and done. And I know JT Miller would, but they've got to sort this out. It's got to move on, I think. Let's get a couple of questions in here and then we'll get to more of the news of the day, Berkey. And I know I'm going say one name and it's gonna trigger a story with you. I'll let you get your jacket off and get warmed up on this one

because I think you might... No, it was freezing in here and they turned the heat up but now it's hot. Berkey's gearing down and playing a beer league game here. Here we go, folks. So I know when I mention one name you're gonna get you're gonna get fired up so it's a good thing you took your jacket off. You might want to roll up your sleeves in a couple of seconds here. So this one comes in from Quinn Huzz. He says, hello, hang on, let me put this up here.

Hello Sir Burke, I forgive you for Martin Brochure. We'll get there in a second. My question is, do you think, you know where I'm going with that one, right? I already hate this story. My question is do you think Kevin Biaxa could or should become an NHL head coach someday before we get to the Marten Brochus story because it is a it's a great one and I hope you're as salty as possible about it. Your thoughts on Kevin Biaxa. Could he, should he become an NHL coach one day? I think he could be an NHL coach or GM. I think he's coaching his son

Cole. Yeah. I don't think he has any interest. I don't think Juice has any interest in going to a team because he's coaching his son as a real good young player and a real fine young man too. I met him last year. So I don't think Kevin would be interested in that right now, but I think Kevin could write his own and and and personalities. So I think he could do whatever he wants, but I don't think he's interested in doing it right now. You got to remember, a lot of these guys have $20 million in the bank. They're not interested in going through the screen that I went through while the guys went through it, they're getting fired and the public disgrace. They're not interested in that. They have to overlook the money side of this and say it's something I truly want to do.

You know, Kevin told me something interesting a couple of years ago. We were at hockey night one night and we were talking about Cole and we were talking about my kids playing minor hockey and his kids in youth hockey, et cetera, and back and forth and he's coaching, as you mentioned. And I said, Juice, tell me one thing,

I don't think he'll mind if I say this. I said, tell me one thing that you do as a coach that you don't a coach that you don't think anybody else does. And he laughed and he said, there's one thing that I do at practice that I don't think any other coach does. And I said, what's that? And he says, at the end of a drill, when I'm describing the next drill, I don't let my kids take a knee to recover. And I said, why not?

He said, one of the things that we never teach, and Kevin knows this as a player, is the feeling of being tired and having to stay on the ice. And he said, I'll call my kids in after a hard couple of laps or whatever, and they will stand there. Because to me, that's them practicing, being caught on the ice,

maybe it's second period long change, and I want them to know what that feeling is So they get comfortable with it and we work on that and practice they all hate it They all want to take a knee I don't even know if he tells them that that's why he's doing it But in his mind because as a player you never get a chance to practice being out there too long Oh, look at the shift a buck 32 minutes. Oh Oh this is crazy. He says that's my way of teaching these kids what it feels like when you're on the ice too long. Do you have a thought on that one? I thought it was I thought it was pretty pretty ingenious. He's a really bright guy. I

think that would work for Kevin. I'm not sure it's necessary. Depends on how long you stay at the whiteboard. Now you get me going on another pet peeve of mine, the whiteboard. If you do just five minutes at the whiteboard, standing is too long, you do four minutes at the whiteboard, kneeling is too long, do your whiteboard in two minutes or less for God's sake. Yep, and do your first drills in the room. Like when the kids hit the ice they should be ready to do a drill right away. Don't get out there and shoot. Free set packets of five drills. Yes. Here's the first five drills. Don't spend... All the NHL guys have, you know, the uh, the uh, whatever, you know, let's say the, the,

the Nickelback whatever they'll call it or the, the uh, Pentictum whatever, it'd be a Z drill. Yeah. They can name them and they'll know what they are by heart. They know about 40 drills by name. Just give them five drills and say, we're starting with the nickel back, we're doing the Pentictum, we're going with the Kamloops, whatever, and then do that.

I agree with you. Instead of spending the first five, 10 minutes just working on crossbars and empty net goals while the coaches all guffaw at the penalty box. Okay, I gotta get on this one then. So you mentioned the answer to Kevin Biax's question. Can you address Quinn's point, I forgive you for Martambro shoe. Now, when you were the general manager of the Vancouver Canucks in a waiver draft, you surprised, shocked a lot of people. I had my eyebrows raised. Certainly like, what's Vancouver doing taking Martambro shoe?

Can you tell us the reason why you took Netminder Martambro shoe? Yes, we had a deal worked out with the Islanders to get Gar Snow. The deal was all set. Mike Mulvary called me the night before. We had done the deal three days before we'd agreed to it. I said, you're gonna deal him to me, get a pick, and that way you won't lose him in the waiver draft. And he said the night before, we were driving to Santa Rosa.

The NHL had us in training camp that year in Santa Rosa, California, home of Charles Seltz, the famous Minneapolis cartoonist. Yeah. We were at the rink for peanuts. Yeah, the peanuts guy. He was a Minnesota guy. Anyway, we had the deal all set. I called Mike Milbury. I said, we all set. He said, no, Charles doesn't want to do the deal for Garth Snow. So I'm like, Mike, I'm screwed. I haven't made any contingency plans. I'm screwed. He said, that's too bad.

So we took Marten Brochure and then had to sell it as a good choice, a logical thing that we've been working on for months. We hadn't even talked about Marten Brochure. Great kid, by the way. Wonderful young man, but couldn't play a lick. How many different times did you get sort of How many different times did you get sort of backed into a corner where you had to make a move that you didn't plan on making, didn't wanna make, but then you had to sell it to your marketplace or sell it to your owner that this was the plan all along? That was really the only time.

We got into a deal with St. Louis too where we're talking about two different players. I'll have to refresh my memory on this. We're talking about two different players. I'll have to refresh my memory on this. We're talking about two different players. And John Davidson was the president of the team. And I think Doug Armstrong was the champ, I think. And we were talking about two different players. We were talking about one player, and they were talking about a different player

with very similar names. And we end up finally hit the wall and said, What are you talking about? This guy doesn't even play, he didn't play in junior, he played college. And we're like, what? We realized we were talking about two different players from the get-go. Albert Fresh, I'll remember on that

and tell you that story. It's better than what I'm telling you right now. Let's pause on this one. One of the things that I did, I mentioned to a couple of people this week that I was going to, I haven't, I can't believe in all these years, I haven't mentioned this one thing to you that always makes me to... I haven't... I can't believe in all these years I

haven't mentioned this one thing to you that always makes me laugh whenever I go to his house. So down the street for me is Mikhail Grabovsky. So Grabbo, when he's playing with the Maple Leafs, met a girl from Pickering, they end up getting married, and then when he came back from Europe settled just where I am on the sort of border of Stouffville and Uxbridge, he got a really lovely place at Musselman Lake. So I ran to Grabo at the gym when he first moved back and he said, come on over, we got a rink, we got a pond and sauna and the whole deal. And so I go over to Grabo's house and it's gorgeous. It gets this beautiful home and he's got like the half a rink with three chill chillers Berkey and a basketball court and I mentioned like the pond and it's it's gorgeous and I knock on the door and Grabo opens up and he said I'll never

forget this he says Jeff welcome to the house Berkey built do you have a memory of Mikhail Grabowski? I like Grabo. I made them all take small numbers, lower numbers, so I made the deal for Phil Kessler. I told him 35 and below. Our cup team, the highest number on that team was 35. And like Getzi and Perez, they wanted high numbers. I said, no, you got to take lower numbers.

When the twins came to Vancouver, I made them take 22 and 33. Yeah. and if you're not gonna make Kessel take a lower number as well. So I said, okay, I gave in. So we had five higher numbers within a week. And still to this day burns my ass that we did it that way. What number would you have cared? What number he ended up taking or did just that? Anything under 35. One of the goals had to be 35.

The other one had to be one or 30. See, once upon a time, like a younger Jeff would have said, oh, Poppycock. But you know what? I love seeing maybe just the novelty now. I love seeing lower numbers on players. But would you go as far as to saying the single digits are for defensemen and the double digits are for forwards? Well, from there was Scott Niedermier, I was wearing 27 and a half. So I would have if I thought it through back in the day, if I'd become a GM 30 years ago, to a a a a a a

a way. Oh, it's been perverted a little bit. But that's what I would have done. I would have stuck with it, but I didn't think of it. Didn't have the vision or the guts. Vision to think of it and the guts to make guys do it. We got a bunch more here really quick. So Jake submits this one. Hello, sir. I was curious about your thoughts on Sackett

and Forsberg over your term as general manager. Have any good stories or times you were just shaking your head watching these two. Like Peter Forsberg's flat out full stop one of my favorite players of all time. And how do you not love Joe Sackett? A thought on these two, Berkey, from your time. Well, Peter Forsberg, people don't mention this enough. He was a very physical guy. Oh, yeah. He initiated. He started the reverse set. Not started. Terry O'Reilly's the first guy and the Central great player great playmaker great shooter great Great teammate great guy. So it was awesome to watch them both Do you have some civilians breaking in Berkey?

Yeah, I got some civilians breaking in I gotta go I'm in their space. Oh We got we got a little bit of time left He can are you like it there's a there's a sign on the door that says like wine club or something like that. Are you in a wine cellar, Berkey? Yes, I'm in a restaurant. I'm at the Capitol Grill. You're on the move? We're on the move. Hang on. All right. All right. We'll see where we're going. This is the action shot of Brian Burke

progressing through the restaurant. All right. Sorry folks. the restaurant. He's been booted out of the wine cellar and he's making his way to a quiet place in Beacon Hill here at this lovely establishment where he can regale us all with great stories about net miners who played, I don't even think he got a dozen games in, players like Martambro Shu and looks like he's frozen right now. So we'll get to him in a couple of moments when we reconnect with Berkey who's, as we mentioned, he's on the move.

Once he unfreezes, we'll get him back here. We got a couple of really interesting questions that we're gonna get to when Berkey comes back, including one here about, man, people still ask about this one. There's a fascinating story attached to it as well. 1992 and oh, here we go. We have you back, Berkey, where'd you go?

Where'd they put you? I moved to a restaurant. This gentleman's being real nice. Oh, okay. So a nice civilian. I'm in another room in the wine cave at the Capital Grill. Well, open up a nice bottle of Cabernet and get ready for this question.

So Mark Feldman Berkey submits this one. I have a question for Berkey. In 1992 he is credited with canceling the brass bonanza. Curious how, why, and how did the fans react? If I remember correct, I was the ripe old age of two months So a two-month-old Mark Feldman when you canceled that the brass bonanza. What's the what's the backstory on this one with Hartford? Yeah, no no it's tough.

Five star restaurants for lunch every day, yeah it's tough. So we got to Hartford and I asked the players, what's one thing you would like to change here? The way we warm up, anything like that. And one of our captains, who is a current NHL GM, I won't name him but he's in Anaheim, to a a a a

a a a a a The brass band is a wonderful song, but the players felt it was minor league and American hockey they liked Yeah, we get rid of it. So I got rid of it. I took the heat for it I didn't tell anyone for about 10 years But I got fried for that as soon as I got fired soon as they got fired I didn't really get fired her for they got replaced

As soon as I stepped aside and hard for they replaced it put it back in I got fried But it was our players came and asked for it. Yeah so they the captain in question we're not gonna say who it is but his name rhymes with Pat Verbeek then? Sounds a lot like that yes. Okay good but we're not gonna say who it was who actually sat down. Pat Verbeek was a great captain for me I loved having him. He scored goals he was a leader I'm not surprised he's having him. He was tough. He scored goals. He was a leader. I'm not surprised he's doing well as the GM. So I'm not signaling him out. He was representing the player vote, but the players came to Pat, said, you're the captain, get Berkey to get rid

of this song. So we got rid of it. People hated it. People loved that song. They hated what I did. I still get questions about it. People still stop me on the street. I know. I still get questions about it. People still stop me on the street. Why did you order Brass Bonanza? Berkey, Mark Feldman, who just wrote in, says, I was two months old when you canceled Brass Bonanza, but they grew up to love the song. Mark Feldman, find something else to do.

Get a hobby. His hobby. Get a hobby on me. His hobby is picking on Brian Burke on Friday afternoons here on the program. Okay, so Harrison Clements writes this one. Hi Mr. Burke. Over your time in the NHL, what have been the main benchmarks you've seen that indicate a rebuild will succeed or fail?

And here's an interesting one. On that same note, how much luck do you feel is involved in a successful rebuild or retool? You know, luck's, hang on, let me pause on this for one second, Berkey. Luck is one of those things that we never like to talk about because we always, I know I do, I always want to pretend that you can explain things, that this happened because of that and you should have seen this. When in reality, whether it's a game itself or putting a team together, how much is just flat?

I mean, the lottery for the draft is one, but like how much flat out is just luck involved here? A lot, but you can't, over time, luck should cancel out. It shouldn't be something you use an excuse or take for praise if you're lucky over a period of time, because it's like drafting. Everyone says, oh, Tampa Bay drafted better than anyone else for two or three years. and and in your goal differential, their curriculum or certified points that you would use to say to your team, here's our goal for the season. We're going to try and go drop our

goals against by point two per game or whatever. You know what? Pause on goal differential for one second. There was that one year and this was the symbolically the beginning of the end of that most recent Chicago Blackhawks dynasty. There was that year where Chicago finished first in the conference and Nashville finished eighth. And you looked at this one and you said, okay, well, this is gonna be a steam roll.

Like Chicago is gonna roll right over Nashville until you went to the point that you just brought up. If you look at goal differential five on five was almost identical. And as you know, like in the, in the, in the postseason, there's no three on three overtime. There's no shootout that just continues. And there were a lot of people that pointed at that and said, it looked like it was going to be a blowout.

It wasn't Nashville ended up winning and said, it looked like it was going to be a blowout. It wasn't. Nashville ended up winning and we probably could have predicted it. I'm glad you mentioned that, that very specifically goal differential, cause that one has always been for me. And I'm guessing for you too, that one's been a real huge indicator of success or failure for me. And you go back to when we won the cup. We played Vancouver, we beat them four games to one. So history books will look at that series and say, we steamrolled the Vancouver Connects

and only won one game. One of those games were two, there were two double overtime games in that series, two double overtime games. Vancouver won one, we won one. Vancouver wins both those, all of a sudden now you're playing for a game five. So there is a great deal of luck involved. You look at the game when we played Detroit in the conference final, Scott Niedermier scored a goal, he shot a puck at the net, Nick Lipscher put a stick down on the ice, it hit the stick lying on the ice, bounced over Dominic Hasker, falls in the net, now we got overtime,

Tim Mussolani scores, we win the game. Lose that game, we probably lose the series. So there is luck, but not over time. Over time, good teams are good. A few more I want to get to here in the chat in a couple of seconds, but I do want to ask you about a couple more things going on around the NHL right now.

I mean the Alexander Ovechkin chase continues and it seems like every game there's a new stat or something new that he's done. So he scores last night the only goal of the game, 1-0 Washington beats Ottawa and Levi Marillanin gives up the lone goal. So now Ovechkin has scored on his 179th goaltender, breaking the old record of 178 held by Yaramir Yager. I know a couple of weeks ago we talked about Ovechkin and you talked about how you like how excited he is when his teammates score. You know I went and had a look at you know the numbers of

Goaltenders that Wayne Gretzky scored against and the top 10 you know it's Richard Bredour, Mike Liew, Kirk McLean, Don Bopre, Greg Millen. You know two of the three were Vancouver Canucks. That was the the the smite division It was a different era and we had a question earlier this week and you're way more Qualified to discuss it than I am and that is somewhere along the along the way The Western Conference and the Eastern Conference Sort of changed how they played hockey where the East was a little bit looser and the West was bigger and tighter checking. I have no idea why that happened or how that happened. Do you have any idea why, Berkey?

I think a lot of it was a couple, it's a copycat lead when a couple of teams got bigger, when we got bigger, LA got bigger right away. I think there seems to, the weight, all of a sudden that team has to add a heavy weight. So the team adds a second tough guy. So I never liked one guy. I never liked to have one guy to fight. It's too lonely a job. So I'd get a second guy. Now they got to get a second guy. All of a sudden, your team has way more snarl. The other teams in your division look and say, whoa, they added two guys. We got to add at least one. So all of a sudden, you got a clump of teams that's gotten bigger and uglier on purpose, by intention. So I see it going back that way a little bit now. I think the West is getting a little bigger again. Yeah. From the... Okay, I want to ask you this one. So Coach Rausch in the chat

said this. Berkey said this a few weeks ago, and it's my new favorite line. So this is, he's quoting you Berkey, quote, I love Harry Sindon. He's a great guy and I love talking to him but I got one hand on my wallet when I do. Like that's a great line. That's hilarious. And you've had a bunch of these. One of the things I keep hearing about these Friday shows that we do is I just like I love hearing Brian talk. He's got great lines. He always makes me laugh. I don't think I've ever asked you this one before, Burkey. Who makes you laugh? Who makes me laugh? Neil Smith. Neil Smith is one of the funniest guys I've ever seen in my life. And he does classic impersonations. He can impersonate anyone.

He used to do the prof. He used to do Gary Bedman. He used to do Jimmy D better than Jimmy D could do himself. So Neil Smith is one. Doug Armstrong is a funny guy. And he and George McPhee would be one and two I'd say as far as making me laugh. Doug Armstrong has a wonderful sense of humor.

He doesn't show it as much as you'd like him to show. He's got a great sense of humor and George McPhee, he's just a holl. I've made the point before, speaking of George McPhee that pound for pound, he's either the toughest or certainly one of the toughest players to ever play in the national hockey league. Agree or disagree? Agree. He fought everybody and he beat most of them. He got draws against guys who give him 30, 40 pounds away. Fought out of his weight class all and Got a lot of great good guy educated calm most of the time But then he got in a fight with a coach member is in Lauren. Yeah, Lauren Muller Lauren Lauren Muller can so that was Chicago Columbus Yeah, I mean I love George George one of the best guys in the game. I Have all day all the time in the world for George Muffi, okay

One more one more as we leave you here here this Friday afternoon to get back to your lunch. What's this, you're in Boston, what's this weekend looking like for you? Set the table for what Brian Burke has when you say goodbye to all of us here. I came here for a meeting with the PWH Elson business, not with them, but with a potential broadcast partner. And then I'm going to a game tonight at Boston College, Providence College, my alma mater is playing at Boston College. So I'm gonna go see them play and then they play again

tomorrow night at PC at Providence. So I'm gonna see a game tonight, we're taking a bus down, see a game tomorrow night and then I'll come back on Sunday, so I'm excited. I haven't seen my old team play probably in seven or eight years now. So would you go and talk to the team then? No, not unless the coach asks me to, no.

Okay. How often do you get, uh, get back to Providence college? How often do you visit? Well, when I was, it used to be a gym. I get there more often. I did more scouting since I left the gym ranks less. So probably, probably once about eight, seven, eight years ago, that'd be it. Yeah.

You know, it's, uh years ago, that'd be it. You know, I was thinking of you yesterday. Doug McLean was here and you know, you talked about the brass bonanza a second ago. He was talking about the Canon and the origins of the Canon because the Canon features prominently in the stadium series jersey for the Blue Jackets. And he said today, like this morning, he was having coffee with Dale Tallon, Ron Hextall and Jeff Rimmer. So

we'll close on this one. What do you think that conversation sounded like? Ron Hextall, Dale Tallon, Jeff Rimmer, Doug McLean. I don't talk much when I have breakfast with Dale Tallon. As he I left him out. He's one of the funniest guys ever met. He can tell stories all day. and fair the way they ran him out of town. He's a great guy. And who's the other guy? Jeff Rimmer? Jeff Rimmer, yeah. Play-by-play voice Columbus. Great booster of the Columbus Blue Jackets. What a voice for his team. Yeah. And I hate the cannon. I hate the cannon, Jeff. Listen, Doug McLean did. I think it was his final act as manager. The booster club wanted it, and I think he wanted to punish everybody in Columbus that was gonna turf him. He okayed the budget for the cannon. I think that was his final his final missive towards Columbus was green lighting the cannon. It's been 30 years right? You know it's coming. They score a goal. You know

it's coming and still makes you jump. Drives me nuts. You'd think an intelligent guy would get used to it but you don't. He still gets you every time. Still surprised just like we all know that the past two of Etchkin, Carlson to Etchkin is coming. He's sitting up in the same spot. He hasn't moved and he still scores. Everybody knows it's coming. Listen, enjoy your weekend.

Enjoy your meal at Beacon Hill there and we'll talk to you in seven days. Have fun at the the Friars games this weekend. Thanks for having me on Jeff. I went to the dark man, he tried to give me a little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine I'm not against those methods, but I knew It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixing my mind I do all the back-up I turn down the music

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