The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Carter Hutton on Canada's Goaltending

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

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at the the Gensel goal on, so I'm just gonna ask you to surrender the floor here and say, if you're a Canadian hockey fan, how are you feeling about the goaltending in Canada? I feel like we fall behind a little bit, Jeff. I think we're at a point where when we look at what we've seen so far from Connor Hallebacher, what we see from Jordan Binnington,

it's been timely saves, I think have been a difference maker, right? Giving up another couple laid in a game here and a nothing game, it's been, you know, timely saves. I think I've been a difference maker, right? Giving up another couple late in the game here in a nothing game. It seems like the game's over. So I don't take a lot away from that, but what I do take away is the way he handles the puck and the way that he's made some key saves.

And I thought today was the best he had looked, right? So if you eliminate those last goals, I've been in this situation, it sucks, right? You want to get out of the game with a shutout, or at that point, you know, there's six minutes left. You've given up one, let's just move on to the next game obviously that stings a little bit but if there's a guy with the mental capacity to manage this moment and be in a situation and how Jeff you get it how well does this suit

it's that boss it's that TD garden where he won a Stanley Cup in game seven Thursday night I'm confident I like this situation I don't hate it I know we picked this roster apart. We go through it. Should have been shy flee. Should have been Tom Wilson. They haven't lost the tournament yet. They, yes, they lost that big game, but if they win this tournament, are we going to look back on this? Be like, what, what did it take to make that decision? The brass going with the guys that they thought. So I don't love where his game is at, but that's Jordan Bennington. His game has never been, he's never been one of the elite of the elite, right? He's a guy that battles and he goes with it and they're going with their gut

and I think that's the situation they're in. And if it's a one game showdown, I think he has it between his ears enough to get it done. All right, Park the goalie talked, there's been plenty of that, certainly. But actually, you know what, actually here's one. Let me close on one. I wanna bounce the theory off of you that I have.

And this is not based on numbers. This is based on strictly anecdotal evidence. So once upon a time, the Goldie factory was in Quebec and then it moved to Helsinki, no, then it moved to Stockholm, then it moved to Helsinki. Now it seems to rest in Russia somewhere. Stockholm, then it moved to Helsinki, now it seems to rest in Russia somewhere. And we wonder where the great Canadian

goaltenders have all gone. My personal theory and solution is this. And again, this is strictly anecdotal. I see as a hockey dad, more parents dissuade their kids from playing goal than ever before. They just don't want any, I mean, listen, I know there's a, listen, there's a special, special place in heaven for goalie moms.

Goalie moms feel it more than anybody, you know this, Cargill, more than anybody in the ring. Goalie moms, oh, bless all of you. Special corner in heaven just for you. But there are so many parents that don't want their kids to play net. My solution to this in Canada, again this will take a long time to work its way through the system, is you want to play goal? Perfect. Your registration is waived. Do you have a thought on where the goalies went and how Canada can solve the problem? Yeah, I think that is a case of it too, right?

You look at all these young youth that grew up watching Sidney Crosby and wanting to be a player and wanting to score that golden goal and be in that moment, right? And now you have a goalie standpoint where we've had a lot of good goalies for a lot of years. And I also think parents get deterred from it

from the cost of the equipment, right? So I always think back to this line. I was actually at a watch party here with some friends were watching it. And one of the father said to me like, my son's a good little player. And I like discourage him from being in that because I don't want to this line. I was actually at a watch party here with some friends were watching it. And one of the fathers said to me like, my son's a good little player. And I like discourage him from being in that because I don't wanna buy the equipment, right?

And my argument to him was my dad's argument, which he always said was, it was cheaper than a lawyer, right? So it kept me out of trouble. I was busy. I was doing stuff. I was making friends and growing and becoming, you know, there's so many good things that come with a hockey too, right?

And I think at times we lose that perspective, right? We start watching Teacano where we see our eight-year-old or nine-year-old do something gifted on a hockey arena and we're like, whoa, he might have something here. Instead of being like, he's making friends, he's learning how to do things. And for me, goaltending was the gear. It was the equipment. It was being the guy and having that pressure. And I grew into it. And the other side of it is I know what you're dealing with. My parents dealt with it. I was in the NHL making millions of dollars that my mom could still not watch. Or if someone wrote a bad article about me, that person was tainted, tainted, tainted

for life by them, right? And I would try to explain to her, this is part of the deal. I wear it on my chest. I know how to deal with it. So I think for parents, there is a lot of that. And again, you sit there at home, you think about all these young parents watching this game. Think about Jordan Binnington, the amount of abuse that he has taken. He is one of the best goalies in the world. And we like are so quick to be critical of the goalie. Even a game like today where he was a

difference maker early, he made a lot of good saves. His puck handling relieved a lot of pressure. He did a really great job. He gives up a couple late goals and now we're like, this is just the cross you bear being a goalie. So it is hard for family, it is that, but I feel like if a kid loves it and he wants to do it, and some might do with my son right now, he's a great little player at his age, and he wants to be a goalie too,

but I just think we'll dabble in everything and when the time comes, whatever he wants to do, it's gonna be him and I don't think we should define success by them making it in hockey. No, no, there's like, what is it? 0.00001%. You were one of those, by the way, Carter, congratulations, that actually make it to the ad, to the NHL.

You're one of the special ones, Carter Hutton. You're one of the special ones. Okay. You're a Canadian, let's say you're a Canadian hockey fan. You're probably feeling pretty good about your team. Okay, you know, a tough one. It's really a one goal game, empty netter, one goal game against United States,

one shot the other way makes it a different game. You're probably feeling really good about yourself when it's four nothing. And then late in the third happens. You're a Canadian hockey fan. How are you feeling about Team Canada heading into Thursday? Knowing full well, and how many times have you heard this as a pro athlete, never critique

a win. A win's a win. Doesn't matter whether it's six-nothing or five to three in this case with an empty netter by Sidney Crosby. You're a Canadian hockey fan. How are you feeling about that one? You know what? I think it's one of those ones that leaves you wanting a little bit more at the end,

right? I guess you just start to worry and you see it break down. He's talk about how good this USA team is going to be. And for me, it's like if they do win that game for nothing, we're still going to face USA, who is awesome. And they were in a state where it seemed like they was very hard to create against United States, where I thought was better. You could see the momentum and where it went late in that game. The good thing for me is Craig Simpson touched on this earlier thing and I had kind of said it right before he said it. So I felt like I could be color commentary as well. To my wife, the abuse that McDavid and Crosby take, this isn't something

new to them, right? This isn't like they just came out to this tournament. They're like dealing with this abuse of guys being all over them. They have dealt with this since they were 10 years old, since they played at any level of hockey. They've been the best player and they've learned how to deal with that. Now let's spread that across this whole team. They've been in games where they've won, they've been perfect start to finish and they've had to get up the next night. They've been in games where they've been brutal and they have to get up the next night and play. So the short-term memory and they're able to compartmentalize things and just deal with their game and move forward is the most

Reassuring for me as an ex-pro right because I've dealt with this and and I've gone to games Example I use a lot Jeff was I remember one time I was playing in Buffalo We were playing in Montreal at the Bell Center, right and I come out and we got waxed six two Which wasn't very uncommon in Buffalo those days and I I come out to meet some friends You were seeing me and they were like treating me with white gloves. They were like, hey, what's up man? Can you come have a drink? Can you come? And I'm like, boys, like get out of here, right? It's me. Like I've already had my moment to, I've had my moment to be upset. I've had my moment to deal with it. The video doesn't lie. I'd move on. Let's go. And that's part of being a professional, right? I think Cary Price did a

great job of when he spoke talking about Jordan Bittingin, like, hey, what are you doing? He's a pro. He's going to go out there and make the next save. And I think whatever happened at that end of the game, these guys have already moved on. They did their job today. They won the game, especially in a short tournament where it's different when we talk about moral victories

with an NHL team and you're trying to grow toward like that 82 game schedule. Where right now, literally the only thing that mattered was winning that hockey game. And yes, there's going to be some takeaways where they're going to watch video and go over it, but they're not going to do that right now. They're going to move on, enjoy this. And at the same time, that's where I feel like confident that this is going to be a

great matchup. And I think they're going to come out rare and a go on Thursday. I'm glad you mentioned Kerry Price. Kerry Price, first of all, an incredibly new school athletic goaltender. We used to think about athletic goaltenders as being, you know, like windmill saves and all these types of things. And really the great athletic goaltenders, as you all know, are the guys that get to position quickly.

Get to position quickly, efficiently, economically, and price was the best. He was also very good by the way, at initiating goalie interference calls. He could get himself in position to get interfered with like, no, he was the king He was also very good, by the way, at initiating goalie interference calls. He could get himself in position to get interfered with like, no, he was the king of that. But what I always liked about Carey Price is, and I always admired this and thought, man, that's got to be really hard. And you've already sort of talked about this with your buddies after playing at the Bell Center when you were at the Swords.

Whenever you watched him interviewed after a game, if you didn't know what happened in the game, based on his interview, you couldn't tell whether the Montreal Canadiens won the game or lost the game. I always admired that about Carey Price. He wore none of it. It was over. It was done. There were no highs.

There were no lows. There was just straight line. Another game coming up, you know, one street car going, another one coming. Like that was, that was carry price. And I always admired that. Like, and how hard that knowing, like how emotionally charged the hockey game is like Carter, how do you do that? is like, Carter, how do you do that? It's funny you say this. You know, it's funny it went this way, Jeff, like you talk about that and the way he was, because I was the opposite, right? I played in college where it was hard fought games and hockey. I played at UMass Lowell. I had a bunch of records there, played very well. Then Connor

Hellebott came around two years later. So I got to give him a dig. And in two years, he broke every record I had. So it was, it was. It's been a goalie factory at UMass Lowell, but we'd be in these tight games, right? We'd score a goal and I would be skating to the corner fist pumping, so excited. I'd be revving my engine. Then all of a sudden I started to play pro where I played all the time and I had to learn how to manage a goal against versus us scoring. I would just try to stay even keeler. Some of my stoles from Brandon Hulpe where he would spray the water up in the air and he'd find a water droplet and he would just watch it fall.

And something that I use for tracking, but also just to calm myself. And then I really learned how to like manage a game, right? Where you got to play for 60 minutes, but it's two and a half hours plus the day of and everything that goes into it. Where if it was a big game, I would be so intense where I really learned to manage just the highs and the lows, be myself. If I went to the bench on a TV timeout, make a joke, be myself, and then get back into the draw, where I think Carey Price was just the best at that, managing the moment and

everything that he did. And talk about economical, not just in the crease, but how he was mentally. So it's so impressive to see. And I think where, I had a good clip of Jordan Benneken the other night standing in that against USA when the play was going on, there was a face off in the defensive zone and you could just see him breathing. You could see him visually being like through the TV, you could see him be like just controlling himself, being in the moment, not letting the momentum and the energy in the building take him away. And I think that's something that's super important for guys that are in this game on Thursday

to draw back upon those moments, right? Now you have that experience in your back pocket to understand how to handle yourself. And Carey Price was the best at it. Do you have business insurance? If not, how would you pay to recover from a cyber attack, fire damage, theft, or a lawsuit? No business or profession is risk-free. Without insurance, your assets are at risk from major financial losses, data breaches, and natural disasters. Get customized coverage today starting at $19 per month at zensurance.com.

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So George St. Pierre is there. So George St. Pierre introducing Team Canada. Now I've been at the Bell Center for hockey countless times, regular season playoff. I have never heard that building as loud as I did. I think it was 2013. It was, uh, George St. Pierre against Nick Diaz. And on when Pierre, when St.

Pierre came out, it was, and I thought like, okay, I've heard the bell sound. I've been to hockey games. No, no, no, Carter, like nothing like it that I've ever heard in my, like they adore this guy, like certainly they all like rocket and Bellevue and the floor, like they adore their hockey players and we know that but man do they adore George St. Pierre so the crowd is already jazzed the crowd's already worked up there's our champion you know one of the great things about George St. Pierre one fighter told me was he's a great

disruptor if you want to strike you're going down you're gonna we're gonna wrestle if you want to wrestle he's gonna keep it up on you you to, we're going to wrestle. If you want to wrestle, he's going to keep it up on you. He'd always disrupt your rhythm and that made him like a fighter's fighter. Like you had this psychology of the whole thing. And then the game starts the way that it does with three fights right away. And all I can think about to myself is here. Okay. So what is the message here? What's the message from the Kachucks and JT Miller and Brandon Hagel and Sam Bennett, etc Talk to me as a player here. You're watching that what's going through your mind. What are you thinking?

You're revved up you're you're fired up It's it's hard to control those emotions and I guess maybe for me my first real like Taste of it. Like obviously I was I was with the Chicago Blackhawks when we were standing in the cup in 2013, but I wasn't on the team, right? I was on the team. I have a cup ring. I got to be part of it, but I didn't play, right? I remember my first time being around the playoffs was in Nashville and the energy is, because I remember backing up my first game. We played the Blackhawks in the first round. I was so exhausted after the game, Jeff, and I didn't even play. I sat on the bench and I was like, what is this?

Right, because I didn't have experience. I didn't know how to control it, right? So this is the same thing. Example is the momentum and the energy in a building is so powerful, right? And I think what's good for Canada and also for the United States is that kind of got out of them in the first game, right?

They have that. Now this is going to be controlled energy that is going to be directed at the play, right? I would be very surprised if we see a fight Thursday, unless it's something that, you know, comes to bar, it's a blowout or something like that. We're off the start, it's gonna be straight to hockey, in my personal opinion, which the way I think it should be,

I think that was legendary the other night, I thought it was awesome. But I think for these teams, there is like the experience, there's that energy, and it's something that is just, it charges within you. I think that's something, there is like the experience, there's that energy and it's something that is just, it charges within you. I think that's something that's so important. And again, why I think this event has been such success is because of the energy in the buildings,

how fun it's been, the people they've had involved. So I think this is gonna be a great final here Thursday. Yeah, you know, the, one of the interesting things about those fights, you look at the rest of the game, second period, no penalties, third period, like no penalties, Like it was, you know, it was, you know, gorillas firing coconuts for a couple of minutes there and then everything just, and then they just went about their bit and they're intense. Everyone was like completely committed, but they just went out there and played hockey. But they got really, it was almost like they just wanted to establish that this was for keeps,

right? Like we're not, we're not just going through the motions here. Like this one is for keeps Let's just remind each other that this one's for keeps and now let's go play like this one like this stuff Whether no matter what happens in this tournament one of the things maybe the thing that this tournament will always be remembered for and Again, this tournament is a one and done. That trophy's going to the Hockey Hall of Fame Resource Center to collect dust until someone looks at it 20 years later and says, what was this for?

What was this trophy? Do you remember this? What's the, like, it was like the Mustard Cup so many years, 1995 or something like that. I don't know if you remember it, if you're probably too young to remember that one. But we're gonna look and go like, what the heck was this? But the thing that it's gonna be remembered for is that nine seconds and

the psychology of it and what led up to it and everything happening between Canada and the United States that built right into this one moment where in nine seconds, there were three throw downs that got everybody talking, everybody talking and everybody tuning in. And here's what I wonder about. I know that the NHL lately, even though this is a very violent sport, and it's not even a contact sport, it's a collision sport.

I know that they've always come shy of nowadays about marketing how violent this game can be and how dangerous this game can be. But you saw the numbers on Saturday. You see everybody talking about this. Like, is there not a lesson in here? Like, I know what we know about concussions. I know what we know about concussions.

I know what we know about CTE. I understand all of these things. These are all choices that players make to deliberately put themselves in harm's way. Is it because I think that there's something we can take out of that moment. Do we want to go back to three and a half hour games? No. moment. Do we want to go back to three and a half hour games? No. But putting an accent on that physicality,

that type of physicality probably isn't the worst idea at all. It's all anyone's talking about Carter. All, but for every reason, any trouble. I guess that like, I get it. Lawyers make everything better. I understand it, but is there not a lesson in there about what this game is? It is, especially to the non-hockey fan too, right? I know you're always gonna hit that. And look at like just even the social media that it brought, the people that it brought to work and the people that were so excited what was going on.

You got Tom Brady commenting on it. You have people that are just like influencers, right? And that's what our game needs, right? When we actually look at the pay scale of like where we're at and like, if we start comparing salaries of sports, like we've fallen behind so far and we're trying to catch up and the game's in a good place, but you also need to sell that too, right? You need to get people in the stands. I think that was a really good job of that. And there still is that passion, right? And then something that sticks out for me, a story as we, as you're chatting,

I remember one time I was in Calgary, we had a morning skate. It was optional. So I went to the rink. I wasn't starting. Jake Allen was playing that night. I was with the blues and Doug Armstrong pulled a bunch of guys aside, the six, five or six players that were playing and we had some injuries and no one really had really grabbed the bull by the horns for St. Louis at that point. Right. And he had a meeting with us. He, he was kind enough to say, Carter, you're just here because you're the goalie. Like you're getting shot. This isn't for you because I was playing well at the time. And he was like, explaining to guys like, somebody's got to do something here.

Somebody has to take an opportunity here because you're going to look back on your career. And this is a moment when you got an opportunity to do something and make a difference and get in the lineup and play. But this is it. Like, and the uncommon, like the fact of the matter is this isn't going to come around very often. Right? So same ideas as four nations cup in this situation that these players are in. And he also said, he also said to us, you guys chose to be hockey players, right? You pick this lifestyle. This is what comes with it. Right? So I think that is important for people to understand on the outside looking in these guys know what they're doing.

They enjoy this. They embrace it. You don't think there's any guy in the NHL that walks that game. It isn't like, I was standing in my living room, Jeff, watching, like, pulsing. I felt like I was in the screen. I played 12 years of professional hockey, and I was pulsing. My wife was like, Carter, sit down. I can't sit down.

This is in us. It's in our DNA, right? To battle, to compete and to feel that. And I'm sitting in my living room having a beer, watching a game as a retired athlete. So I feel like that passion is something that is displayed and something we can show, which separates us from the, the NBA and load management and all the things that we see in other sports that gets critique. You know, there's something good in hockey that we can bring. So, uh, as I'm, as I'm listening to you, I'm thinking of the Godfather and the line from the Godfather that everyone always remembers is, oh, make him a, make him an offer he can't refuse.

To me, the great line in the Godfather was exactly what you're talking about. To me, the best line in the Godfather is this is the business we chose. I always say it to myself about my job, like, Jeff, you chose this. Hockey players chose, like, I can't, like, I can complain to a certain point about certain things, but essentially, I chose this. You know, like, I'm losing my hearing

from wearing IFBs and headphones my whole life. And you know who's to blame for that? Me, because I chose this. That's a really great point, Carl. I'm really glad you brought that up. And for, to give like the sort of the, the, the other side of the, of the argument in the chat, Kate S says, fighting for the sake of ratings makes me feel cringy.

These guys only play into the 30s. The fights come from passion in the moment. So be it. Otherwise I don't love it. I'm like the Olivier Reeves fight to me was a potato chip. It was empty calorie. They fought because Reeves hadn't had a fight. So? And that's why the reaction was, okay. It was like a meat. But that one, everything happening outside of the game, everything happening in the building. It's Montreal. It's a Saturday night. It's the big, it's the two best international rivals in hockey right now. And I'll be blunt. I'll get your thought on this one. As we start to close here, it's the Kachucks, man. This

is another chapter in the Kachak story. Like they're writing one of the most incredible hockey books right now. The Kachak family. Let me close on this one. Give me your thoughts on the Kachaks. I love them. I made this comment the other day as the game gets more and more skilled here. We've gone over so much stuff. I love this, Jeff. Obviously I love being on. But I see kids all the time now skill, right? Everything is skill. Everything is McDavid. Everything is attacking the triangle.

Everything is that. And when I watch a player like Brady Kachuk play and Matthew Kachuk, you're not telling me that that's not the way that the game is gonna go, right? I know it's cyclical, right? We go through cycles where it's things change and go that way. But who in God's name in the NHL doesn't want a Brady Kachaka or Matthew

Kachaka on your team. So I feel like the game will start that will start to like will trend that way more. Now you need players like that. And especially what we have learned over the past, I don't know how many years you want to say it. You have to play a certain way during the regular season to get into playoffs, right? But then all of a sudden your team has to be built a certain way to get into the playoffs. And those are those guys that know how to walk the line. They know how to do it. They can do it all.

And I think they're so valuable. I think kids nowadays can take a lesson away from sometimes it's not about a toe drag. Sometimes it's not about the pep system and walking through. Sometimes it's about going through a straight line through your guy and going to the hard areas in the net. And I think there's still value there in the game, right? Even though I know we've gotten away from the fighting and physical play and it's all speed and skill, but there is a lot of value to be able to play the game the right way.

And those boys sure do it right. I love hockey players taking shots at PEP. My kids do it though. But then I like talk to Adam Oates. But then I talked to Adam Oates and Oates was like, get the toys off the ice, get the toys off the ice. Enough of this stuff. Shut up with this stuff.

I think it's good. I shouldn't discredit it. I just think there's more to the game. Like you need to be like, there's kids I find sometimes, Jeff, I see them, they're trying to dig through the guy and said, take them wide and drive them, put them on your hip, make it hard on them. Every shift, right?

But you know, let me close on this one. We've got a hustle here, Dilly Face Off Live coming up top of the hour. Let me, from Boston, let me close on this one. We're in an era right now where I always look at, I go to junior games and I go, where'd all the bad skaters go? You know, I go to these like prospect games and I go,

where'd all the bad skaters go? Like they're all going like, okay, whenever, here's my thing, when everybody can shoot and everybody can skate and everybody can make plays everybody can pass everybody can do the Michigan everybody can do all that stuff when everybody's there and we're there if I'm a manager you know what I'm saying what else can you give me everybody can do that everybody can skate what can you give me? Everybody can do that. Everybody can skate.

What can you give me? That's right. That's where I go like, that's what the Kajaks have. That's what the Kajaks have. They do. They have that it factor. They do. I think for even for me, like looking Binnington handling a puck is important, right?

That's a divider. It's a separator, right? Something that can separate you from somebody else, right, Joe? Big time. You're the best. Thanks for spending a lot of time with me today. Listen, it was an interesting game. Certainly, and now all eyes on Thursday, we have the rematch Canada facing off against United States, the great Carter Hutton joining me here on the show. Thanks so much, Hatsy. You'll be welcome. I slept 16 hours last night, every day this week, every day this month

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