The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: David Pagnotta on Rasmus Andersson, the New York Rangers, and the Dallas Stars

Episode Date: January 17, 2026

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In the meantime, he stops by every Friday. It's always a lot of fun. Really entertaining, really informative as well. I've chum the waters for Dave Panyoda, who joins me now. Are you in Vegas right now? I am, yes, still in Vegas. So you went to the game last night? Was it weird seeing someone booed in their own barn?

That was the weirdest part. That was, because there were a lot of Lee fans. There were more Leaf fans. I walked the concourse during the second intermission. There were a lot more Leaf fans that I anticipated. clearly people circle this one on the calendar even though Mitch will be in Toronto with his team next Friday yeah

so but I mean good excuse considering the snowstorm in Toronto this week good a good opportunity for everybody to get the hell out of there but yeah a lot of a lot of fans a lot of leaf fans a lot of leaf colors and the booing yeah was was weird at first I'm like wait a second are people actually Oh, there's a lot of them.

And it, yeah, it made its way throughout the building, which was, yeah, in your home barn to have that happen from the other team was a little weird. Yeah, it's, um, listen, a lot of Canadian markets, whenever the Maple Leafs travel through, they have that experience where there's a lot of Maple Leafs fans and it makes for a kind of weird dynamic in the building, but nonetheless, you're at the game,

so maybe you had a chance to see a clip of this, maybe it didn't. Did you see Matthews with, with Mark Masters? For those that didn't see it last night, this is Austin Matthews can be pretty blunt when he wants to. This is, Zach, you have this one standing by. This is Austin Matthews with Mark Masters of TSN yesterday. Let's have a peek at this.

You and Mitch, the last two out and warm-ups per usual, send a puck your way there at the end. What was it like seeing him over there? I didn't look over. I don't know. So, yeah, I think I've had enough of the Mitch questions for the day, Mark. So, yeah, let's just get ready for the game. and go from there.

Okay. So, you know, honestly, my first thought was on something like that. First of all, funny, entertaining, a great little piece for everybody watching the game on TSN last night. My first thought was, that's what the money's for. That's what the money. Moments like that where I keep getting asked about this and I don't like it anymore, that's where you remind yourself, this is what the money is for.

Is that an accurate way to look at this? Or do you think it's just like, have there been too many Marner questions for Matthews? Well, yes, there have been way too many Marner questions, just in general. Like post game, uh, post game nobody asked Matthews.

He was the first one to come out. So nobody asked Austin about Mitch, but Tavares was asked a question about it. Um, he went through it pretty easily. Morgan Riley was asked the question about it as well. And he was very curt with his answer. He was very just a couple words and that was the end of it.

So like I get it. The guys are a little bit frustrated because the storyline should be about them and how the season's going and Mitch is now part of the past. But because of how impactful he was for that team and just look at the record books. I mean, he's up there in almost all the offensive categories. He's going to be, you know, when his career is done, I mean, his leaf career is done. He's one of the best Leafs of all time. So it's relevant and it makes sense and it's topical because it was the first game playing against each other.

But I also get the frustration because you want to prep for the game. And, you know, they lost one in regulation to Utah earlier in the week. They wanted to rebound two days later to pull up a W. So I get it. But you're right. I mean, stupid questions. This is what the money's for. This is what the money's for.

Exactly. All of it. All of it. Regardless of how many times you get asked, regardless of how dumb the question. may be, not with respect, just in general. Like sometimes we have some interesting ones. But the guys got to put up with it and, you know, they get the sheets to do it. All right.

Rasmus Anderson, it feels like we need to all refresh our Twitter, like every two minutes to see if anything has happened. It seems like this is pressure point now. Like I'm the team that I'm most wondering about are the Detroit Red Wings. But we know that Dallas has been around Raz Anderson for at least a couple of years. now. What is the very latest as we have this conversation? Vegas, well, I mean, he, and listen, like that, that might be the easiest A to B as well, if you sort of follow up your wishes.

It is January 16th at 108 Eastern. Where are we right now? Because at 109, the answer you give may not make any sense. Yeah, it could definitely change pretty, pretty rapidly. These talks have picked up since, you know, holiday freeze lifted. And they've escalated day after day. And in the last 48 hours or so, maybe a little more, things have really picked up. At least it seems that way anyway. The chatter has definitely picked up with respect to Rasmus Anderson.

It wouldn't surprise me to see something going to the weekend. And, you know, we have some type of resolution here. But every indication is that he's going to be moved at some point. And that the preference is to do it sooner than later, get this done before the Olympic break. And I think that's been kind of relayed as well, you know, to the player. So whether it's Dallas, Vegas, Detroit, I think Toronto. At one point. Toronto is circled back a couple times.

And all indications are with TANF is going to be done for the regular season. So they'll have additional cap space to free up. It won't be the full four and a half that he's making, but up to what is it is, 3.8 and change. So there have been a lot of teams that have been poking around on him. $4.55 million cap it. Not astronomical, a lot more palatable for some teams, although some others. Like Vegas, for example, is trying to figure out what's going on with William Carlson. Is he done for regular season?

Is he going to be done for playoffs as well? How much of that $5.9 million can they utilize if they're going to spend it? And we know that this owner is not afraid to throw money around. And if there's an opportunity to get better, he's giving Kelly McCriman full autonomy to do whatever he needs to do. But things, yeah, things have definitely picked up on the Anderson side. I think with Calgary in general, like I think some teams have been poking around a little bit more and having more frequent conversations with Nazim Kadry. Blake Coleman, we know there's a ton of interest there.

One day, they're listening one day, they're telling people, no, we don't want to move them. So a lot of chess being played right now for the Calgary Flames and Craig Conroy. I'm pretty sure you were the first in on Blake Coleman. I want to pick up that conversation in a couple of seconds. But one more thing on Raz Anderson, on an expiring contract. Do any of these conversations depend on an extension? Like I wonder about Boston specifically, you know, a desire, a need. But unless there's an extension, do they want to trade, you know, low-eye and or first for Rasmus Anderson, for example, just pulling something out of the hat?

Do any of these conversations, are any of them contingent on an extension? I think there's been the mess. I don't know if they've gotten to the point where they've given permission to, to, you know, figure out a contract or talk to the agent. I do know that, and this has been reported before, that teams that tried before, like Los Angeles in the summer, wanted an extension to go along with it, weren't able to figure that out, no deal.

And we know that at the time, at least last season anyway, you mentioned Dallas, Vegas as well. These are the two teams that at the time, he was willing to sign an extension with. Whether it got to, I mean, I don't know if it got to that point in terms of discussions and ultimately there was no trade. But for Calgary's perspective, I don't know why you wouldn't want to give him, you know, the opportunity to sign an extension because it means you're getting a better return.

Not, you know, you're not doubling down and you're getting twice as much as what, you know, his value would be without a contract. But it does up the pot a little bit. So I think there's And even for him, like he wants to, you know, I don't think he wants to deal with this

and start moving around all over the place over the next six months. So I think there'd be a preference on his side too. But, you know, just to be honest, I don't know if those discussions have entered the equation just yet. Yeah. I know sometimes teams are reluctant because they don't want,

bluntly the player to have the opportunity to sewer a conversation and sewer a potential trade because the player decides that he doesn't want to go there. And that's, listen, we'd be ridiculous to think that that's never happened before because I think we both know that it has. I don't get the sense, though, Dave, that that is part of this situation. I've never got that impression. Would that be accurate? Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, in terms of this season, same, which is why I don't know if that's going to shift. I don't know if that's going to change. You know, they may say, you know, team acquiring may say,

all right, if there's an extension, you guys figure it out, here's what we're willing to do and go from there. but at the same time, you don't want to tip your cap too much from that side of it, of it either. So I would be a little bit surprised if there is one, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. If we get to a point where a team says, look, I'm willing to give you X, Y, and Z if he's on an extension. And the flames agreed to it, then, you know, at least you have the framework or the deal ironed out. Now it's just a matter of figuring out the contract. From the Calgary point of view, the thing that I think a lot of us, and certainly Calgarians, would be curious about is, you know, what type of return are we looking at here? and it's probably the young player and a high pick.

Here's what I wonder about the two main suitors, Dallas and Vegas here. Can Dallas do this without Maverick Bork? And can Vegas do this without Trevor Connolly? That's what I really wonder about here. Is there any chance that these teams can hang on to these two young prospects? Because, you know, if you're Craig Conroy and you're talking to Vegas, yeah, we want to talk about Trevor Connolly. And if you're Jim Nill and Dallas, yeah, we want to talk about Maverick Borough. Is there any world where a deal happens with one of these teams that these players aren't involved?

I think, I know at some point the discussion with Dallas hovered around some of their other kids. So I'm not sure, oh, there goes my light. I'm not sure to what extent, you know, those conversations have shifted or evolved. Yeah, yeah, like I would imagine so. So I think the discussion points have jumped around a little bit. I mean, obviously, you know, for Dallas, Bork is the primary. that's the primary target you would look at. But there are other pieces that I know have been discussed at some point,

at least back and forth between those two over the, and this goes back again to last season. Okay. So we'll stand by. That conversation may be completely meaningless in like five minutes. Like by the time we're done this conversation, it's just the nature where everyone's at with Rose Anderson right now. It'd be nice to see some kind of move, though.

Well, you know, like, I don't know that that's like, just as an aside here, Dave, I don't know that that's like a piece that everyone's waiting to move, which will cause like the flood, the floodgates to open and then everyone gets lubricated. Right. But just to see some action. But to see some nice action. Yeah.

I know. Listen, I'm with you, man. Like that's, to me, like trades are part of the marketing of a league, right? Trades in free agency is part of the marketing. And it's sort of, you know, super charged. As an aside, other sports have this. Would you be in favor of specific trade periods in the, Maybe you do like two, two times during the year, you open trade windows.

And that's the only, just so everybody knows, like for this two weeks slice in the fall and this two weeks slice in the spring, that's where trades can be made. Other than that, you can't make deals. Personally, no. Deadlines make deals, Dave. Deadlines make deals. Yes. Yeah, especially in this league. So I like that.

And then I like the random ones that just pop up out of nowhere because it's, it's, places things up every now and again. True. And then, you know, so, yeah, I like the way it's, we have it right now. Now, this year a little bit different because of the Olympic freeze, the quasi, you know, deadline junior. So we'll see kind of what happens here, whether it's Anderson or some other pieces that I'm sure we're going to touch on.

But there's a lot of activity. There is. Let's get there then. The New York Rangers. We spent a lot of oxygen yesterday on the program as pretty much everybody did after a couple of horrendous games, a game against the Boston Bruins and then the beat down by the Ottawa Senators. It's 6-0 before the season ticket holders gotten their seats. What happens here? Like, I think we're wondering about Panarin and we all have our theories. I've wondered about

Washington, for example, comes into help scoring and then signs a two to three-year extension. He becomes the Ovechkin replacement, but I really don't know. I'm just like a lot of us sort of speculating on where he fits. Carolina could be another one. They're always in the mix. What's the latest? Maybe with Panarin without Panarin. What's the latest with the Rangers? Yeah, this is another team where things have started to pick up a little bit. And, you know, once, and I've mentioned this a few times this week,

and you know this, I think a lot of people do. Once you start to see a team flounder a little bit and they dip in the standings where they get a beat down like they have recently, teams come calling in. And then all the vultures circle and they go, well, what about this guy, what about that guy? What about, you know, player X, Y, and Z? So, yeah, the conversation with the New York Rangers seem to have picked up.

Now, it's kind of twofold. So one, I don't think they've shied away from the fact that if there's a big fish type of spend, like we talked about earlier this season, they tried going after Quinn Hughes. If they have somebody that they can pluck away that, you know, fits a bit of star potential or is a star and is controllable, he's signed, he's got term. I think the Rangers want to explore that. At the same time, yeah, Panarin's a topic of discussion. other players. Vinnie Trochec recently has been a topic of discussion.

There are teams that doesn't mean the Rangers are going to move all these guys, but teams are starting to call. And with Panarin, I'll get to Trochec in a second. But with Panarin, yeah, I think they want to have an idea, can we sign you to a contract that makes sense for us? Otherwise, we're going to have to explore this. And I think they're getting to that point. I don't know if they're there just yet, but I think they're getting to that point

where these are going to be more lively discussions involving Panarans. So whether the teams, whether it's the Carolinas or the Washington's or some of the other clubs that are out there that have a little bit of cap space, wiggle space, and are looking. I don't know about a trade per se, but Los Angeles, to me, a team looking to fill

some additional holes up front. We all know they need goal scoring. But L.A. is an interesting one for me on a variety of different fronts, because they are looking in different avenues to get a little bit bigger and physical in one area and then add more firepower slash goal scoring in another. So I'm curious there.

And I mentioned Trochecks. There are teams. One team that has been circling on him, the Minnesota Wild, and we know that Minnie is not afraid to continue to make moves and Billy Garron has been very active. Yeah. Before the Hughes trade,

he was looking at a second. line type of player, top six type of guy, that hasn't really stopped. So whether it's going to be at the center position or somebody else on the wing, but it certainly sounds like at the very least, Minnesota has poked around on Vinnie Procheck's availability in New York. USA hockey, the Olympics, Bill Guerrin, few connections. Procheck.

Oh, by the way, I saw something, read something this morning that made me think of you and I wanted to make sure that we went over it. At the mayor's manner site, they were wondering and speculating on based on certain conversations. Van der Kaine, Ken Holland, you know, went for him once. Does the Van der does this Ken Holland shoot for him again? Now that the fire sale, I shouldn't say fire sale. Now the sale is on in Vancouver. Yeah, I started hearing that about maybe a week ago that there were at least some loose conversations between them. And then, yeah, as you said, yeah, Mayor John Oven put that out yesterday, I think it was, with respect to their availability.

Now, I don't know necessarily if it's focused exclusively on a vander cane, because I do think there are some other pieces that the Canucks have, that the LA Kings have interest in and have expressed some interest in. And I know with Vancouver, the Conner Garland topic has picked up quite a bit in the last couple of weeks. With a lot of attention on Sherwood, and we heard all the Jake DeBrusk stuff after he was scratched and whatnot. But Connor Garland is another player with his no trade or no move, whatever it is, kicking it in July. there have been some discussions there as well.

And again, L.A. needs offense. I don't think they're going after a Vander Kaine for his goal scoring ability because it's not really been there this season. I think it's the other intangibles in his game that might attract a team like L.A. to it. But I think there's interest in some other players there. So I'm wondering exactly what is kind of cooking there. Is this a little bit larger than just going after a player for, let's be honest,

there's not a lot of, like the Canucks aren't going to be pulling in a hall for Van der Kaine. It's likely a prospect or a draft bit. But does that conversation expand? I do wonder how much business Vancouver does get done at this trade deadline. I was saying this on Secarison Price today. I look at the Detroit, right? I keep circling back to Detroit.

I look at Detroit and I say to myself, like, if I'm Steve Eisenman, I can do all my shopping in one place. And perhaps the most interesting idea that I was talking to about someone not too long ago was, you know who needs, Philip Peronick, Detroit. Right, yeah. You know, I don't know if he would be interested. I don't know if Detroit would be interested,

but I look at the player and what he brings and who he is, and I look at Detroit, and I say, that's the exact defenseman they need right now. There's a lot of different types of forwards they need, and they do need a top six, one more top six guy. But as far as defensemen go, I keep coming back to Philip Ronick. Yeah, and look, I know a lot of Detroit fans always, you know,

say, well, nothing comes out from Steve Eisenman's camp and whatnot. And you're right. Keeps it close to the best. But there's 31 other teams that like to dish a few things out as well. And the conversation, when you're that active, the conversation starts to expand a little bit, and the whispers get a little bit louder. So it's clear that the Detroit Red Wings are exploring the market

to see how they can improve this team now and moving forward. And you're right, D-Core. We just talked about Rasmus Anderson earlier. Yeah. they're looking at the top four quality guy, and then at the same time, they've been looking for another team, extra firepower up front.

And I don't know to what extent they get involved in, you know, the full rental market. We know that they've had interest in Kiefer, Sherwood. That's one of the teams that have poked around. He's injured right now, but, you know,

that there is a, there's, you make an interesting point because there is an opportunity here to pluck a couple of pieces away from, you know, a team versus having to, kind of make, you know, multiple type of moves here between now and the trade deadline.

But it's clear Detroit's active. To what extent that action becomes reality? We've got to wait and see when Stevie pulls the trigger. I want to ask you about Dallas here in a second, but I want to do something that I'm sure is going to get an eye roll out of you. I want to propose a trade. Now, this comes from a conversation. I know this is what every talk show host hates. I got a trade for you.

Okay, here we go. So this comes from someone who, the way I'll frame it is this. This comes from someone whose career trajectory is on the way to him becoming a general manager in the NHL. So been a lot of talk about Dougie Hamilton and no trades and no moves and the nature of the knot that the New Jersey Devils find themselves in. So this person said to me, here's the deal. deal that he would propose. Dougie Hamilton, Cody Glass, Seamus Casey,

to the Nashville Predators in exchange for Stephen Stamco's and Justin Barron, Nashville retains half on Barron, which gets New Jersey cap compliant. The two primaries here, of course, being Stamco's

for Dougie Hamilton. For Stamcoe, he can go back and play with Andre Palat and Jack Hughes, and for Dougie Hamilton, it's the proverbial change of scenery trade as things are not working out in Nashville. Does that one resonate with you at all in this fantasy world that I have conversations with people about? And then watch, he's going to get a GM job,

and it's going to be like, that's ridiculous. And just stop with all the fantasy trade nonsense. Now I was like, it's all the NHL deadline, but then all changes when you get hands on the wheel. Look, I think a lot of boxes get checked here because, first of all, New Jersey has that interest in Stamco's since that became a possibility, going back early around in the season. So I think there's definite interest and there's been a reluctance from New Jersey, excuse me, apologies, from Barry Trots in Nashville to retain at all on Stamco's deal. don't have to here. So how the heck do you make, how do you make the money work?

Well, this is exactly. This is how you, this is how you can pull it off by moving out Hamilton and doing that. Now, less, a little bit less term. I think Stamco says. No, they have same term. They have same term. They have same term. Yeah.

So, but now you're moving out. Yeah, from New Jersey's perspective, you're moving out a guy that needs a change of scenery. And I think at this point definitely wants one. Yeah. And you get some other pieces if you're Nashville. you know, that make this more inviting. And it allows you to do some other work potentially afterwards as well if you've decided to move on from Stephen Stamco.

Now, at the end of this, it really comes down to obviously Stammer being comfortable with the deal. And because of the... That's the big one. Right? That's the exact issue right there. That's it. For me, though, because the interest in New Jersey has been a good chunk of the season so far, I haven't been given any indication that this is, that they're no longer part of the mix,

which would lead me to believe that obviously this has gone back to the player and that there would be consideration for something like this. I don't know this definitively. I'm just trying to connect dots here. Sure. But because this has gone on for months in terms of New Jersey's interest, I've got to believe that there's at least some consideration that he would give to making this happen. but the numbers make sense.

Maybe there's a few other players that get kind of swapped out, but it does make sense from that perspective. The pitch, if you're in Nashville too, is like we're sending you somewhere that's closer to the playoffs than we are. That's closer to the point. And you can play with Andre Palat again

and probably Jack Hughes. Yeah. Like there's, it's, it's, and that's what, look, especially the way that Sam, Sam Kos has been playing now and recently, with him getting back on track over 20 goals again. Like this is an opportunity for you to spike up those numbers,

play in a more, well, fast pace. I mean, he's not the fastest by any stretch, but, you know, lost a little bit of speed. But this is a different, in terms of overall competitive pace, it's different. New Jersey still wants to get things going and they still want to push for playoffs. And they still believe that they have the, you know,

the horses to do it. But they've been struggling and scoring the goals. And in the Stamco's, he hasn't lately. We have someone by the name of Jack, who's Hughes, who will look for you every time he's on the ice. Yeah. Right? He's going to find you.

You can do your thing. He will get to you. Yes. He'll give you the buck. You can live in one-timersville for the rest of your career because Jack Hughes is your center. Dallas, a couple moments left with you. Dallas, what's the latest with Jim Nill squad? This is like bluntly, this is another, obviously, go for a year for the Dallas stars.

Yeah. And this is another scenario where similar to last season, they went to one spot. And they went to San Jose. and they brought in, Mikhail Granlin and Cody Sisi, checked a couple of boxes here. I think that's what they want to do again. And I think a lot of people understand that, that they've got an area that they want to address on the back end

and they want to bring in somebody up front, not having Tyler Sagan for the rest of the season. So for them, there is activity. You know, and they like last year, I think it was, I remember correctly, it was February 1st of 2025 when they pulled off that trade. So Jim Nill is another guy that would like to prefer and would like to get business done in advance of the deadline. Now, this year, again, the Olympic freeze, a little bit of, you know, kind of changes things.

I don't know how much urgency it really does because we touched on earlier. Deadlines. Everybody in this league likes to work on official deadlines. But it will continue to get the juices going here and the conversation going. But this is another team that if they can bring in, you know, top four kind of guy on the back end, And I think, you know, last year they brought in C.C. to help solidify that third pair. I think they'd like to bring in somebody who can fit, or at least is capable of top four minutes. And then another top six quality guy.

And this goes back to, like, they have interest in, and they've had interest in Blake Coleman, you know, for some time. And I believe that Coleman wouldn't mind being part of the Dallas Stars if he gets moved there. So there's a possibility with all these connection to Rasmus Anderson to potentially go that route. obviously the return is going to be a little bit bigger here if Dallas does do this. Okay, I want to ask you, you were at the game last night, so maybe you didn't see or hear

about what happened in the Columbus Dallas game last night. Do you see what happened at the end of the game? No, I did not. Kevin Stenland played the final three minutes and 51 seconds. I know all the oldsters saying, this is like Ovalov and Rangers and Mike Keenan. It wasn't like that.

They're protecting. a one goal lead, Utah is. And so it's Utah, not Columbus, Utah and Dallas, 351 to end the game, no change. Now, his face-off percentage is like 63.5 or something like that. So it makes a lot, it makes a lot of sense. But it was just weird watching a guy as all of his linemates change, Kevin Stenland stays on the ice for 351.

We've seen defensemen. But centers, now mind. A lot of trust. Right? That's what I'm thinking. like good on bear for sending him out there again, but it leads me to a last question for you. Utah is going to do something, right?

Like you, of all the teams, like you, I can't see Utah being this close with that GM and maybe more specifically that owner, sitting this close and saying, eh, you know what, we're okay. I can't see it. I can't see it. This, this has been the interesting one because we talk about,

and I've mentioned this early on season too, but we've talked about, you know, Carolina and, you know, New York and some of these teams that are not afraid, San Jose now, not afraid to take big swings, Vegas always. Utah's another. Utah, since the start of the season, since the off season, has been, and they made the Petirca trade. But this has been another team that I'm just waiting, because every indication that I've been given from people in that organization is that we have the means to take a big swing and to go get another big, fish if we need one. And it's just a matter of finding that piece. And I'm just waiting for them to

try to find that. I, I know, maybe it shifts because how the market ends up, you know, being dictated over these next few months and trade during the Olympic freeze. You can still talk. So, you know, maybe, maybe that, that, you know, definition of what they're looking for gets altered because of it, at least for now. So maybe they do enter kind of the, you know, rental mix. But I think it's somebody, the preference would be to go bigger and bring in somebody that's controllable. and has term and is not just a, you know, a piece for the rest of the season. Again, that may change, the philosophy of that may change, but I'm just waiting for Utah to make that type of swing, because you're right.

Bill Armstrong is willing to be aggressive. The ownership is willing to be overly aggressive, and we know they're not afraid to spend money. Guy dropped 200K to get the locker room done in a month. So there's no issue with him spending money. And it's really a matter of Bill Armstrong and the crew. to try to find that piece. But I've been waiting, honestly, I've been waiting for that big piece to happen there. Another big move for them because they're lurking.

They're always lurking. I was firmly convinced that if those Panthers players would have hit the market on July 1st, that Utah was going to be first of the trough, that they were going to be first of the trough to grab one. That's the one. And then we'd be looking at Eckblad and Sergachev as a top pair for Utah. Oh, oh, that would have been something. That would have been something. They wanted it.

They wanted that to happen. Yeah. That's in the what-if category. Dude, enjoy the rest of your day in Vegas. Thanks, as always for stopping by. You are the best. I always appreciate you coming on here on Fridays, pal. I love my Fridays with you, buddy.

Take care. I'll have more goofy proposals for you next week. And thanks for keeping the eye roll, eyeball rolls to a minimum. I appreciate it. Thanks, pal. I kept it. I kept it in. But now I'll make it.

We've actually got a decent one.