The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: David Pagnotta on the Panarin Fallout, EDM/TOR Talks, CGY Players, and more
Episode Date: February 7, 2026David Pagnotta joins Jeff Marek to take a wide-angle look at the NHL landscape as the Olympic break officially begins, examining where teams truly stand in the standings, who’s buying and who’s se...lling, and what kind of trade activity could be on deck once play resumes and the march toward the NHL trade deadline begins.Leave a voicemail: https://www.speakpipe.com/TheSheetEmail us: thesheet@thenationnetwork.comSHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoffReach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Dave Panyoda stops by and joins me now from DFO Rundown Insider Edition.
Dave Panyota from the fourth period joins me.
Now, Dave, how are you today, pal?
I'm good.
I'm good.
Geared up for the Olympics.
Are you?
I guess the action gets into it tonight.
Yeah.
Well, see, the thing about your viewers right on top of all the Artami Panera stuff,
and I want to get to that too.
How much other groundwork do you think gets laid for subsequent moves?
And also we should say, like, you're still allowed to sign contract extensions during this trade freeze.
You can still do that kind of business.
Like, how much business do you think gets done in the next couple of weeks while the players were out and some guys are in Cabo?
Yeah.
I think this first week is going to be relatively quiet talking to a few kind of GMs out there and a few others around the league that they anticipate this first week.
Let the guys go do their thing.
Let them get away.
Whoever's not in the Olympics.
Everybody take a breather.
Management and everyone will be doing their things.
thing in terms of, you know, mapping out their plans. But let the players go do their thing. And then
when everybody comes back or close to it next weekend, everyone's back on the 17th, then have those
conversations with your pending restricted and unrestricted free agents. And a lot of teams, I think
Seattle, Columbus, Toronto, a number of them want to have those discussions with their pending
free agents during this time to determine whether or not it's realistic for them to sign them. And,
you know, Boone Jenner, for example, in Columbus.
I'd be a little bit surprised
if they can't figure something out there,
but is Charlie Coil going to want to have a deal in place with Columbus
or is he looking at the free agent market?
And if that's the case, they're going to have a decision to make
to speak hypothetically using these two guys as examples.
But we may see some players become more available
in the next couple of weeks
based on how some of these discussions go.
We know Seattle is going to have it with their guys,
whether it's Alexiac, Everly, Tolvenin, and Schwartz.
Those are four guys that are important.
Seattle's an interesting team and, you know,
one of the surprise entrants in the Panarin sweepstakes,
I'm offering up boatloads of money.
I want to get there.
But how much, this is a good one for you,
how much do you think this Columbus winning streak
has thrown a wrench into the market?
Because a lot of us thought that by now,
like they're going to continue to lose and you'll fall out of it.
And, you know, like you and I talked about, you know,
either Boone Jenner or Charlie Coil off to the Edmonton Oilers and, you know,
helping to make a third line, which Stan Bowman is, of course,
we would assume trying to put together there with the Oilers.
How much of this winning street complicating everything right now, Dave?
It does and it doesn't because, like, from the dozen side,
Waddell and company, they thought this was the team.
I mean, not to this level.
not to how well they've done with bonus behind the bench.
That's not sustainable.
But they thought they were a hell of a better team
than they'd shown in the first bit of the season.
And they believed that what they had on paper
was going to be reflecting their overall performance.
It wasn't the case.
And they needed to make a change.
And with bones coming in, it's a looser room.
There's more communication.
There was some talk that maybe the players started to tune Evanston out.
And that's why they ultimately went in this direction.
but things have definitely shifted.
They feel they're a playoff contending team.
But at the same time, if they can't get Cabranson and Jenner and Coil signed
or at least don't feel confident or there's a risk of them going to free agency,
then I think Waddell is going to look at the market and see what's available to them.
Whether it's Edmonton or, you know, L.A. is looking for a center.
Do they go to the Coal direction?
There are other teams that want to benefit, you know, the rest of their club,
reward their club, I should say, by adding to it.
So whether it's the Dallas or Columbus, or excuse me, Colorado's,
Carolina in the east, other teams, Tampa, Montreal, et cetera,
there are a lot of teams that are going to be looking to make moves.
And they want to be, they're curious to see, hey, is Coil available?
Is Jenner available?
Can we go in this direction?
So I think Columbus, again, they feel this is the team that they've put together
that can compete for a playoff spot.
So they're comfortable with that.
but at the same time, can they get these guys signed?
Mason Marchman, another one.
It is interesting.
You know, in no surprise.
You know, Rick Bonas comes in, seven games.
They've only surrendered 13 shots, 13 goals.
Like, we kind of should have seen this one coming that right away defensively,
this team was going to tighten up.
I'll be really curious to see what Columbus does.
Like, if they get in, like, we're going to talk about Tommy Panarin here in a second.
It's the same thing that happened to Panarin and Columbus, too, and Bobrovsky.
You know, like they just treat them like their own rentals.
It was important for the organization, get over the home playoffs, et cetera.
And it worked in that first round against Tampa Bay Lightning for sure.
But then ultimately, those guys ended up going for nothing.
Okay, Artemmy Panarin.
What surprised you along the way?
Because this was, like this was a cruise ship, right?
Everybody got on for the ride.
By the time we got back to port, what surprised you?
Well, not the destination because L.A. was, you know, part of this from the start.
Yeah. It was more, honestly, it was the contract. Two years. You know, I guess the other surprise was Seattle offering up over 14 million a year to try to lure him over there.
I know Carolina had, I think it was a four years, four years around 12 million on the table. And then they, I believe they went back with a fifth year, more old.
overall money, but lowered the A.A.V. Again, didn't make a difference. He wanted L.A.
When push came to shove at the end of it. So I'm a little bit surprised on, well, very surprised
with Seattle, how aggressive they were, but a little bit surprised on the fact that he's only
getting a two-year extension at 11 million AAV. That one surprised me. Not so much the return.
I know some people are questioning the overall return, but at the end of it, when that was the
only option on Wednesday, you take the best package you can. And I know they're very
the rangers seemed very high and were very high on green tree from the start.
So we'll see kind of how he develops for that club.
But those are probably the two ones that surprised me the most.
The ultimate deal with L.A.
And then the fact that Seattle was just so ridiculously aggressive in trying to get him.
Okay.
So let me read you some.
This is from someone from another team about Pernaran.
Because it seems as left, he was sort of,
He wanted to go to the sun, right?
Like he wanted to go where it was warm.
And so one person sent me this text.
He wanted to go to Florida or Tampa, winning cultures and no taxes.
Requested kings, losing culture, and high taxes.
Did he just want to go somewhere warm?
Is that all the matter?
Maybe.
Because it was a note of Utah.
It was a note of Detroit.
It was a note of Washington.
I think over the weekend is when, you know, some of those teams like the caps and Detroit,
at least from what I was told, was that's when things started to narrow down,
when those teams were being told that he wasn't interested in signing with those clubs.
Yeah, Florida and Tampa were right there.
They weren't able to make things happen.
I think Tampa was trying, but they just weren't able to make the money work in terms of an extension
or a willingness to do it.
and they've got their own guys that they don't want to go over even with the market shifting.
So that effectively nullified the two Florida clubs.
And, yeah, L.A.
I think, or at least it seemed to me like Carolina and L.A.
were the two leading into Wednesday.
And then when they figured things out, it was like, okay, no, we just want to focus on Los Angeles.
And that's the team.
And he made it known yesterday as well that this is the team he wanted to be with.
So I think it's situational based on how this all played out.
But he's happy with his decision in L.A.
And certainly the Kings are happy as well.
I believe they tried to poke on Trocheque, but that wasn't going to happen.
He wants to stay east.
So I don't expect the Kings to be done.
I mentioned earlier, Coyle.
I think they're going to look at the center position.
And it seems like that's a priority.
For sure.
And interestingly, yesterday with, you know, Kenny mentioning Fogel's name,
just because they have so many guys on that roster.
I'm curious to see how they play this out leading into the deadline.
I was going to say if our Tammy Panarin watched the game last night against the Vegas
Gold of the Knights, he knows that his general manager still has some work to do.
So what is the fallout from all of this?
Because none of us think that this means like, okay, well, you know, Jason Botterill took a swing
and then that's it, he's keeping his bat on his shoulders.
No one thinks that Chris Patrick's keeping the bat on the shoulders,
or Eric Tulski's keeping the bat on the shoulders.
Steve Isamon, you see where I'm going here.
What happens now?
Is it all of a sudden, now everyone just turns their attention to St. Louis?
I think it's St. Louis.
I think it's Nashville.
I think it's Calgary.
There are going to be some, I'd imagine, some interesting conversations
once things re-engage or reignite, I should say.
with a lot of these clubs.
Like Nashville, I heard that they had two deals on the table.
I have no idea what they were,
but they had two deals that they were working on
that didn't happen before the freeze.
They've been active.
We know that they're willing to listen on Stamcoast and Marsha.
So we know that they're willing to an extent
to listen on Ryan O'Reilly,
and definitely they're pending unrestricted free agents,
so bunting and Hala and McCarron and so on.
I expect them to be pretty aggressive.
I think the way that the West has shaped out,
despite L.A. losing back to back going into the break,
I think it's nine teams now in the Western Conference
that are going to be battling for those eight spots.
Might be too little too late for some of the other ones,
but we'll, I mean, we'll see.
But I include Nashville in that mix.
And then you have St. Louis.
You mentioned Seattle taking that big swing.
They took a big swing or tried to anyway
with trying to get Jordan Kairu in the summer.
That didn't work.
You know, maybe they pivot back.
Maybe they look in a different direction.
it's clear that Seattle wants a top line talent.
And, you know, as we reported a couple weeks ago, Shane Wright's out there.
And they're using him as that carrot to dangle to package up in order to get a piece that's going to fit them on that first line.
So, you know, Seattle's going to look.
And, again, they have to do some housekeeping, as I mentioned earlier.
They got to figure out their free agent situation.
But, you know, maybe they utilize some of those assets that they acquire if they do move these guys out
and package that up for that on that first line
that they're looking for at least one piece.
So Seattle's going to be selling
and situationally buying if they can
for a guy with term.
You know, some of the other, like Carolina,
I think looks back at the Rangers, excuse me,
and looks of Vinny Trocheque again.
And maybe that's the fit for them
if they can't bring in a top winger,
or top six winger, I should say,
look at the center position
and see if you can get somebody responsible
at the dot that contribute off
contribute offensively and for this situation,
there's familiarity there because he played there.
So I think a lot of these different teams are going to pivot a little bit.
Dallas, I still think, is just breathing down Craig Conroy's neck
to see if they can make something work for Cairo.
Excuse me.
Cadre, Cadry, I should say.
Or Coleman, because there's definite interest there.
And I believe Coleman wouldn't bat an eye at going over to Dallas and playing there.
So I think a lot of these different teams are going to start to reshift their focus.
I'm sure they've already started to see where things go.
You mentioned the Washington Capitals, another top six guy that they're looking for.
And they want to sell like a lot of these teams because of how the cap is going,
they want to know or I guess it makes things a little bit easier for them to know that they can bring in somebody with term.
And it's not going to hinder their ability to spend money next season and the season after that.
You see, caps are interesting now.
They went after Nikolai Euler's Carolina offered the extra year.
We've talked about this and he goes to Carolina.
In honor, Timmy Panarin, he chooses the Los Angeles Kings.
That's why I think we can look at the caps and say, okay, so looking for a winger.
Okay, so looking for a winger with some skill and some skill and some speed.
And that's why I don't know what is.
I keep coming back to Jordan Kairu.
You know, it's a team that's not fast.
It's a team that wants winger.
and what do we know about Jordan Kairu?
He's fast and he's a winger.
And probably could use a change of environment
and I'm pretty sure that St. Louis would only be too happy
to afford that to him.
That one just makes too much sense to me,
which means it probably won't happen.
Yeah.
Well, look, I think Kyru's,
the sentiments are the same from his side as well,
that he's open to that move,
open to that change of scenery.
I haven't gotten the sense.
It's a direct request,
but I think both sides understand
where things are at. So whether it happens ahead of the deadline or around draft time,
I think that's a real significant possibility. Speaking of guys with term, just cycling back
to Calgary for a quick second, their veteran group is a pretty tight-knit group. And Raspas Anderson's
out. It looks like Coleman is very likely to be moved ahead of the deadline. Codry,
I wouldn't put him to that percentage, that high, but there's a good chance as well. I think
very good chance for Coleman, good chance for Codry.
you know,
Hubey's done for this season with his injury.
Yeah.
If I'm McKenzie Weger,
I'm looking at this.
It's a great question.
That's a great question.
Why am I here for another five years?
Like,
that hasn't happened yet.
They haven't approached him about his no trade.
He has a full no trade,
not a no move,
full no trade.
And there's already some reports of Ottawa and whatnot,
but there are other teams.
And the Sends have been kicking the tires on Weger
for the last couple of seasons.
I, hang out,
Just pause on Weger.
I'm pretty sure that Dorian had something with Weiger.
Yes.
On the draft floor at Montreal.
Do you recall that one?
Because there were a number of moves.
There were a number of moves.
Because he made the De Brinket move and we're all waiting for Dorian to do one more.
And I'm pretty sure that it was Weiger.
Now, again, different owner, different manager.
I get it.
But that just sort of, you said Ottawa and Weger, I'm like,
it wouldn't be the first time.
I can't remember.
I can't remember if it was that draft or maybe.
the Vegas draft, which would have been after, but where they cycled back and Josh Norris's
name had been popping up for Calgary. This is obviously before last season when they traded
them for cousins. But I think like Ottawa's interest goes back exactly to that to that period.
Local guy, I think he'd be open to it based on where the, you know, the team is heading or at least
the direction that they want to be going in.
Yep.
But it hasn't circled back to him or his agent yet.
But that's the one that I'm really curious about.
If we see something that's kind of like, oh, oh, that's interesting.
We know there's heat around Coleman and Cadry and Ryan Lomburg and probably a couple
others.
But Uyghur is the one that I'm wondering, if all these guys are out, what's the point of keeping
and when you can get a pretty good haul for him?
And I think it'd be open to it based on the situation, I should say.
Okay, a couple more Canadian teams and let you get on with your weekend here.
Edmonton, Toronto having conversations?
Yeah, there was some word out at Edmonton that leading up to this freeze,
that they have been having discussions with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
I don't know the specifics of where they're going.
I'm going to speculate a little bit.
And it wasn't Bobby McMahon.
I know there was a lot of attention and a lot of speculation surrounding Bobby McMahon.
Going into the week, I know they hadn't spoken about McMahon.
but it sounds like maybe it's a Niqua, maybe it's an Oliver Ekman-Larsin.
Those are two that I would not be shocked if they've poked on,
but I was told by a couple people that the Oilers and Leafs had conversations
leading up to the deadline, the freeze, Deadline Jr.
And that might be something to keep an eye on going out of the break
and closer to actual D-Day.
Timu-Trade deadline, we'll just call it.
Timu-Tradet.
Timu-Trade.
That's cool. Call this one.
And last one, listen, no surprise, Montraud, Canadian,
still frisky in the marketplace.
What happens here?
There was all the talk of the center, center, center,
need a two C, need a two C.
That has dissipated, at least the urgency to do it has
because of the performance of Oliver Capitan.
That second line has been great for the habs.
With Demadov and Slavkovsky's really been driving that one,
which if you're a Habs fan
you're like finally good
he's been
yeah taking a little bit of time
and maybe it's just the progress
it really hasn't been that long he's not that old
but great second
line unit for the Canadians
the need now seems to have shifted
to that first line right side
you have Caulfield you have Suzuki
and they've been intertwining guys
Docs seen time there Texier seem time there
I'm curious what they do
with line A as well
But it looks like that's where they're going.
As if in a perfect world, that's where they want to go.
I'm wondering, do they circle back again for like the fourth time to St. Louis about Cairo,
who we talked about earlier?
Do they go in that direction?
Do they look somewhere else?
And then what do they do with lining?
They've got too many bodies on this roster.
And there's not enough room.
Similar to L.A. to a certain extent.
They've got too many bodies there for what they're trying to do.
And Kenny Holland, maybe he slipped.
I don't know why specifically mentioned Fogel,
but that's now everybody's looking at that.
I think from the Canadian side,
they've got, again, too many guys on this roster.
New Hook's hurt.
He's coming back.
They've got to fill some spots for some of these guys.
So I wouldn't be shocked if that's the direction the Canadians go.
That being said, they're not pushing this.
They're not forcing this.
If it happens for them now, great.
If they don't do something along those lines ahead of the dead.
line. Every indication I've been given is Kent Hughes is totally fine with just being like,
look, we like this team. So we're going to sit back and maybe it's a summer. If we can do
something around draft like they've done before last year, Bullduke and Dobson, maybe that's
where they focus on if they can't pull something off now. They're comfortable with this roster
moving forward, but it seems like at least the immediate need, or I should say want more
than anything. It's a want, not necessarily a need. It's not to see. It's that right side on that
first line. Let me close on. Let me close on this one. A player of Leon Dreisdell's stature,
when he says something about getting saves and coaches, that gets taken really, really seriously.
Now, the Olympic break might just brush everything under the rug here. But do you see that
having any effect on what Stan Bowman does? Like, there's all kinds of talk about Mark Stewart
and who heads up the defense side of the bench for Chris Knoblock.
The goaltending has been an issue, but like, look,
like if the goaltending was an issue with Stuart Skinner
and the goaltending is still an issue with Tristan Jari,
it's like the old joke, you know, there's one jerk at every party,
but I don't believe it because I've never seen the guy.
It's like, well, maybe the prime, maybe the movie's you, right?
It's like, I can't help but think.
If every goal that comes in is the wrong goaltender,
maybe the problem is not the goalie.
I've been saying this for all season, because I was told in the off season,
that the concern for this team going into this year was defense and not exclusive to the
decor, just overall team defense.
It's been lagging and it's been lacking.
And it's a big reason, in my opinion, why they have struggled in their zone and why it looks
like the goal tending at times looks awful.
When they've been healthier,
they really got things going.
They played a more structured game.
When they had Jari come in,
everybody was clicking on all cylinders.
And then eventually that shifted
because it didn't seem to be sustainable
and clearly it's not.
I think Stan Bowman,
I know there's a lot of talk of top six guy and top six guy,
I think they're more focused on bringing in a body
on that back end
that has at home capability
from yesterday
since he had that surgery.
He's still very reliable
defensemen,
but he's not the same type of player he was
that made him so beneficial
and so worthy
on that high worth.
Actual words escaping me.
But valuable is effectively it.
They need somebody as a shutdown type of defenseman
that I wouldn't be surprised
if they look to add ahead of the deadline.
And then somebody in that mid-six
that can play a strong,
two-way style that can help.
Now, obviously, they don't have cap space.
So moving on Japani is going to be one of them.
I'm very curious as to how they go about this.
Maybe that center is the NICWA in Toronto that perhaps are looking,
or another piece elsewhere.
But I think it's more focused on the defensive style of hockey
versus having to add any more offense and fire to that roster,
because, you know, a switch and Leon and Connor just handle everything themselves.
I'm surprised that the Bonjiapainty thing has gone on as long as it has.
I'll be honest to the day.
Me too.
I thought this would have been dealt with weeks ago.
And for whatever reason, it's still there for the Edmonton-Lus.
That's why they continue to be one of the most interesting teams to cover.
All right.
The weekend is yours now.
What are you doing this weekend in advance of Olympics?
What are you going to do?
Like no games to watch this weekend or sort of just sitting around?
What do you got up going up your sleeve?
Unwinding a little bit.
there is some hockey, not just at the NHL action.
So I'll be, the Marleys are playing Springfield tomorrow in Toronto afternoon game.
So I'm actually going to go check that out.
Nice.
See that game.
And then Super Bowl Sunday.
So Monday might be slow, but we'll see how this one goes.
I could care less who wins this thing, to be honest with you.
But I'll be watching and beverageing as well.
And to hockey parents, psycho hockey parents out there, you know what you can get on
Super Bowl Sunday, cheap ice.
Everybody cancels their sheets, man.
You want your kids to go skate?
Super Bowl Sunday, cheap ice, baby.
All right, you'd be good, Dave.
We'll talk in seven days.
All right, you two, buddy.
Take her.
