The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Jay Rosehill on the Leafs Early Struggles

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

Jay Rosehill joins to discuss the Maple Leafs’ slow start, why the team is slumping under Craig Berube, and what needs to change for Toronto to get back on track.SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍���� Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Shark Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-4-in-1-portable-glass-air-fryer-cooking-system/FN101CGY.html?utm_source=Better+Collective&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=H2+Air+Fryer&utm_content=EN👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

He's one half of the powerhouse duo that is Leafs Morning Take. He's also a star on the Spit and Chicklet's podcast as well. He's a bon vivant. He's a man about town. He's here to tell us stories. Some of them might even be true. He's a great Jay Rose Hill and he joins me now. How you doing today, Rosie?

A little beaver. Sounds like a name he picked up on a road trip back in the day. No, this is when he was a kid. He had a resemblance to a, I don't think they don't, the politically correct term is not midget. wrestler anymore but a midget wrestler by the name of who went by the name little beaver and he looked like him and that nickname just sort of always stuck with him i don't know what you were thinking jay but that's where my mind went right away um hey so it's uh it's halloween and i'm so proud of

i know i've been bigging up philly a lot on the show but i'm really proud of philly today because the question he came up with is a great one the q a d for today's program what moment haunts you the most in your hockey fandom. Now, you played. So this might be something from your career, maybe a restless night before you had to fight the boogeyman. Maybe it's when you were a kid, like for me, it was a Lanny McDonald trade

that just shook 10-year-old me to the core. What is the moment that haunts you the most in your hockey fandom, Jay Roselle? Oh, I think I've got lots of scary moments and haunting, haunting scenarios in my career, no doubt. but one that stands out to me is it was my second game playing overseas and I was in Glasgow playing

we were in Belfast the night before they had me net front of the power play and no one wanted to stand there so I stood there was big took one off the knee scored a goal power play guy says if you stand there all year long you'll get a ton of points so my confidence is high very next night

second game overseas I've been there about a week standing net front of the power play big back scratching clap I just watched that thing go right into my face and put me on my, put me on my arse. And, uh, oh, black it out, Zach, you are such a wimp. That's the best part. Why'd you block it out? It's YouTube.

It's YouTube will pull it for blood. YouTube will pull it for blood. Oh, it will. It's not, it's not because we can't do just because I don't want to. I want to show it. Oh, man. Oh, there's a hole in the side of my face. I, three teeth are gone.

It broke my palate, like the roof of my mouth, just crushed it. And I remember put me on my arse, and then I got up and started skating to the bench. I just, I'll never forget licking around my mouth and just teeth and meat everywhere. It was awful. I was going to our bench. And then I went by their bench and looked up at them as I kind of spit some blood out. And they all just like, they all were repulsual. Oh!

And I was like, and I just hooked her over to the other doors to go to the dressing room. I figure that was the end of my night. And yeah, I'm just now over, that was probably 2016. I'm just now over getting the work done to repair all that. Are you still getting that, you're still getting that worked on? Yeah, so different nerve endings and posts and implants and I did bone graphs and all kinds of stuff. Hours and hours and hours and hours in the chair. Just, just nightmare scenario, very fitting for this Halloween day.

Do you think that we're getting to a place? Now I'll preface this by saying Once upon a time If you mentioned the idea of mandatory helmets People would scoff at you Or mandatory visors People would scoff at you Do you think that eventually

The NHL gets to a place With mandatory cages Oh goodness I really hope not I mean how like okay So that's like as bad of a story as you can get Is mine and what is it Lost some teeth like

I really think think that being able to see the player's faces and have access to them and their personalities and their brand, I think, is huge. And I hope that always stays. They don't load up the guy's face with the big chin. You can't really see who's who when you're wearing a cage. You really can. It takes away from it. So I hope not. My God, they already got visors. And like, of all the years of no one wearing visors, there's one guy that stands out with an eye injury, which is kind of shocking. and I'm not against WISers, but just let the men make grown-up decisions. Stop.

Listen, I'm of the, I don't like telling anybody what to do with their life. You do whatever you want to do with your life. I don't like telling people how to live. I don't like telling people what to do. Like, I am not that person. My only thought on it is I can see owners who invest a lot of money in players that help bring them in a lot of revenue. And if like one of the superstar players is down for like an entire season,

or however long because of going through what you went through and they could remedy that by putting on a cage I just wonder what the decision would be I'll tell you a funny story here's a funny story for Halloween it's Bob your story

so Bill Masterton passes away in the NHL okay it's a Minnesota Los Angeles Kings game hits his head on the ice and passes away two days later and everyone in the league starts to get understandably nervous

about playing without a helmet and all of a sudden everybody's putting on helmets or trying to play with a helmet and even the Boston Bruins who always prided themselves on like none of our guys wear helmets none of our guys wear helmets including Bobby Orr

and he tries it at practice and halfway through practice he takes it off and as the story goes one of the reporters afterwards loaded question and you know this reporter had been like dying to ask it so one of the reporters goes up to Bobby

and says Bobby let me get this straight you'll wear a jock strap but you won't wear a helmet and Bobby turns around and says that's right because I can always get someone else to do my thinking for me good answer I like those ones one of the great comebacks of all time on this on this on this Halloween to extend the motif scary times in Toronto J. Rose Hill

is this just like roller skating down a gravel road because this is a team in transition or learning to play a different way with new personnel. I know sometimes when you try to figure out what teams are like this early in the season, it's like trying to grab a handful of water. But as best you can, grab the handful of water that are the Toronto Maple Leafs right now.

Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I keep bringing myself back to the summer where unanimously everyone thought, said and agreed that this is going to take some time. Don't be surprised if there's growing pains. Don't be surprised if they don't come out of the gates hot. They're reinventing themselves in a certain way. There's a bunch of new players to get used to. There's going to be line combination configurations going on left, right, and center, and that may take some time. So nobody freak out if they don't come out of the gates hot. Well, they did not come out of the gates hot, but I don't

think that prevented anyone from freaking out. It seems like, you know, it is a theme. It is a theme. for October, like they won the Atlantic Division last year, and their record was eerily similar to the one this year in the month of October. So, yeah, while it seems like a long month and there's one blunder after another, I think you need to keep in mind that you should have been prepared for this to be, you know, a process and there'd be some growing pains. It's still frustrating to watch. Yes, does everyone still want to dissect and figure out what is wrong and what could be better. Also, yes. But whenever I get frustrated and I'm like, I'm just going to go off today. I'm like, pump the brakes. Remember how you felt in the summer when you, when you knew that this

might be, you know, a bumpy road for the first bit of the season. It's kind of like, you know, I look at, I was talking about this the other day on the show, it's kind of like rebuilds. You know, every fan when their team has taken that dip and, you know, playoffs are not going to be on the horizon. Every fan base talks about how we need to rebuild and we're all behind the rebuild and let's do the rebuild that last one year. And then it's like, okay, so when did the results come? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Like five minutes ago, you were saying you were cool with the rebuild. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was five minutes ago. Now we want the team now. Like the one thing we know about hockey, really is the one thing we know about sports is there's two speeds, super slow and super fast. And rebuilds are super slow. That's why I'm hearing you talk about this and say like, you know, pump the brakes,

pump the brakes here. This isn't a rebuild, but it's a team that's playing. differently with new personnel and everyone said they were fine with that in july most people did yeah but that's not very um that's not indicative of the market that they play in and i guess i understand that but um i feel like the problems that they have i mean they've been riddled with injuries um you know anthony stolars has been carrying the crease with the absence of joseph wall which is you know not something he's really done before um and hasn't played his best we know there's better the decor you know tanab's been out and guys have been out and they're not playing

their best we know that they can forward same idea and i i do think on the positive side of things that the problems they're having i mean you're seeing their breakdowns they're not supporting the puck they don't have layers um they don't seem to have a common theme that they're always trying to lead with where guys are familiar where everybody is it seems like they're winging it every breakout every neutral zone regroup every entry they're just winging it and it It hasn't led to a whole lot of success, but I do think that those are issues that you can clean up in a hurry, and they are getting used to each other, and nobody has played with the same guy with too much familiarity at all. They're putting the lines in a blender, actually, the way Cheldon Keefe did. And I really think that Brubay is trying to find some chemistry with certain people and figure it out.

Again, it's the first month of the season. I think the problems that they have here, I would not be shocked if we hit Christmas and look back and say, oh, yeah, remember that brutal start. It's been a theme for this hockey team for a while now. Is there a way, and maybe this is unfair because everybody, every team has such different personalities, but I'll throw this out there anyway. Is there a way that this team, given the personnel, has to play? Like, can this be like an East West team? Does this, can this team be like a table hockey? Here's your lane.

Stay in it. If you're a winger and you can't touch the boards, you're out of position. Like, what kind of team based on the personnel do you think this Maple Leaf squad should be? yeah that's a that's a good question i mean we we know what they've been in the past and that's you know pretty high talent high octane you know try to win six five type of type of a team and i just think that the theme that came out of that decade was that's all fine and danny in the regular season but you just never can rely on it come playoff time like one after another after another it was proven so it was put up or shut up we're going to give another one of

those types of players, the bag, and just like cement this team into being that team for the foreseeable future, we're going to make a change. And I think the change was, let's try to spread that money around so we have, you know, more of a wealth of size, of physicality, of workhors, of four checkers, guys that you can just roll out there in the playoffs and play like, you know, the Boston Bruins did in years past and the Tempe Lightning and the Florida Panthers and the Vegas Golden Knights, all teams that have won Stanley Cups. It's kind of a copycat league. I think the question right now is, do you have the leadership who can adopt that? Like, well, Willie Nielander, will Austin Matthews, can they adopt that mentality too? Because

they're the ones running the ship. And if they're not willing to, it's kind of hard to call that your identity. And I think they're wrestling with that right now. John Tavares, goal number 500. I believe there's only five other players, and he's not eligible for the Hall of Fame yet, but here we go. 500 goals is, where once upon a time 400 goals was the barrier to entry

for the Hockey Hall of Fame. Now it's 500. You get 500 goals, and now of a sudden it's like, okay, that's a number where you should look at and say, okay, let's have a look at the career, and is that going to get him in the hockey Hall of Fame? Does 500 goals for John Tavares for you get him in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Great question. You know, it's interesting. It's who is going to be eligible around him at the same time. You know, I'll tell you one thing. Put a Stanley Cup ring on his finger and it's a no-brainer, right? That's the one thing. There's guys that are in there who, you know, are basically propped up by their cup rings and their trophies. rightfully so and it's you know you crunch the numbers and 500 is unbelievable i just it's unfathomable

there's not even 50 people who have walked this earth who have done it and he's one that has is just maybe that's enough right there right but from his uh longevity professionalism the way he handles himself leadership qualities i i you know maybe it'll take a little longer but i think he he's a guy that'll be in the hall one day so here are the names there are four others okay that have hit 500 goals that aren't in the Hall of Fame. Patrick Marlowe, Keith Kichuk, Peter Bondra, Mr. Capital, and Pat Forbeek. Everybody else hit 500 here in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

I don't think there's any cups in that list, is there? Nope. Well, they're at Pat for Beak. Pat Forbeek won a cup with Dallas in 99. Okay. He was at Dallas on that 99 team. Yeah, it's funny. Some guys can do everything but that cup,

and it holds them back in people's minds. It might hold them back in the Hall of Fame's mind. But I tell you one thing, for everything John Tavares has done that cup ring, just one would just cherry on top. And then guaranteed Hall of Fame, you could die with a smile on your face. You know, I'm sure he feels that way.

It's the one big thing that every player wants to do. He's done everything and then some, but not that special, special thing, which is won a championship. There's one big, from history. I mean, there's a lot now. Obviously, you know, on the knocking on the door here of 900. The, the, um, there is a massive one here.

And technically he's still playing. He's just retired from the NHL and that's Yager. I think pretty safe to say Rosie is going to the hockey Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. Pretty, pretty safe to sick. Legendary. His cups are so long ago now, like most people listening probably weren't born when you're a jogger. one of his early 90s it's wild but that guy's a legend i got to philly with right after he left

there and the guys would talk about him all the time just just they spoke so highly of him his work ethic i mean he's he's got the ice before practice he's skating around he's doing practice with ankle weights and weighted vests he just loved it and the fact that's still playing pro hockey is unbelievable and the way he rubbed off on the younger generation still being effective at the age that he was when he was still in the NHL is, is nothing short of impressive. And those guys remember it, I'll tell you that. So the weight, the, running the stairs with the weight vest. Like whenever I was doing a game that, you know, that Yager was involved in, just watching

them, just watching them, you know, in off days, like watching them run stairs with the weight vest, like, just through the whole rank. I'm like, what, what species are, what species are you? Like, are we this, like, technically we're the same species, but like, it really doesn't feel like that. We're doing different things out there. last one last one for you um in your time playing in the nchel who loved Halloween more than anybody else maybe it was you like who was the one guy that just like lived for Halloween big

costumes every year party at his place was there one guy who just like lived and died on Halloween love it uh I do remember Dion fun off cruising around the the locker room and like making sure everyone had a costume and it better be good and don't cheap out on it and like wanting it to be like a good picture uh him and him and alicia his wife showed up and they were head to toe like professional makeup like most of the guys go pretty good and spend a few bucks on a really good um outfit but i remember being like now i got to put in some real effort here because deion's going to be on my case so uh he's married to an actress like all of a sudden like the game's different in Toronto, man.

Yeah, maybe it. Like, like, like, Clark MacArthur. Sorry, thinking of that party, Clark MacArthur was,

was Forrest Gump and his wife was Lieutenant Dan and she was in this wheelchair. She was flexible and could put her, like sit on her knees and it looked like she had no legs in this wheelchair and she was done up like Lieutenant Dan and he looked exactly like Forrest and people would just

fall over laughing when they saw them. It was the best costume I think I've ever seen. I could totally. I could, I could, I don't, I don't know his wife, but I could, I could totally see Clark MacArthur as, as Forrest Gump. Oh, that's so good. What was your favorite? What was your favorite costume?

Do you have one? Oh. Or just, we just standard, like, throwing a pair of fangs. Look, I'm Dracula. Here's my capewards of beer. No, like one time I was like full spandex and had like ping pong balls over me. And, you know, back in the day when they'd like, like, EA, and I had EA sports on my chest and you'd be like a video game simulator guy.

It was funny because people would love. look and they'd know what it was right away when you saw it. But to describe, it sounds kind of weird. I don't know how I came up with that. But I've been a hoar's a girl and I don't mind like embarrassing myself. So I always get out there. Usually I'm showing like some kind of skin or being half naked or something. It's kind of weird.

But I think I'm getting old. Look, it's Jay Rose Hill with spandex and ping pong balls all over them. Now we know what religion he is. Jay, thanks, pal. We'll catch up soon. Have a great Halloween tonight. I appreciate it. Happy Halloween, man.

To you, too. The great Jay Rosehall from this morning. You've got to throw that one in there, Zach, open spicy. Dark man, you're trying to give me a little medicine. I'm like, no, man, that's fine. I'm not against those methods, but new. It's me and myself, and how this is going to be fixing my mind. I do want to break it. I turned on the magic.

I do want me back. Yeah. I turn on the music. It's going to melt there, battle, but sometimes you sometimes. Have been on the days that we're wrong