The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Jay Rosehill on the Stolarz Extension

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Marek and Rosehill start with the Toronto Maple Leafs offseason, including the impact of the Anthony Stolarz contract on the Leafs’ goaltending depth and what it means for Toronto’s chances in 202...5. They also break down the Maple Leafs’ roster moves, team expectations for the upcoming year, and what still needs to happen if the Leafs want to be true contenders.Reach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Hulu original series, Murdoch, Death and the Family, dives into secrets, deception, murder, and the fall of a powerful dynasty. Inspired by shocking actual events and drawing from the hit podcast, this series brings the drama to the screen like never before, starring Academy Award winner Patricia Arquette and Jason Clark. Watch the Hulu original series, Murdoch, Death in the Family, streaming October 15th on Disney Plus. One half of the excellent impact player tandem that is Leif's morning take, he joins me now. Jay, how are you today, pal? Not bad, Jeffrey. How are you doing? I'm good. I thought of you earlier today. Really?
Starting point is 00:00:44 I did because, well, I was scrolling on the old Twitter this morning and came across hockey fights, Hockey Fights.com, wonderful. Which was, by the way, I was telling someone on the weekend, a good buddy of mine started that website. guy the name of David Singer. I think he went on to work for Disney. He doesn't own it anymore from Hell's Kitchen, New York. I met him one night, went out for a few drinks before a Montreal, New York Rangers game. Great guy, but he was the OG of Hockey Fights.com. And I saw one today.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I want to play it for you. Maybe you remember this one. Sandy McCarthy and Marty McSorley from 95. Now, here's what's special about it. So Marty lines up to take the face off, and then Sandy goes in to take whatever it could be happening. here, Jay Rose Hill. Like, this used to be the league, man. And like this one goes on for a while.
Starting point is 00:01:37 These are big boys. Yes, Marty's going to get the jersey off. It's kind of what Marty does. But I was thinking about this. A couple things. One, this used to be the league. And two, like, these are guys that were feared by, you know, a lot of people in the league, even like other tough guys.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Jay, who scared you? two guys scared me um the boogeyman was scary Derek Bougar and Steve McIntyre scared me um those are because a very high percentage of their scraps they're hurting guys like you know back in the day everyone's chucking in the toe to toe that would happen like in that one you're showing they're tough guys and for some reason those guys could just eat them um obviously we know the consequences of that now and try to try to take away from that but during my era those two guys
Starting point is 00:02:34 were we're catching guys with right hands they're so big they're so strong they're so good on their feet that i mean look at todd fedorick his face is crushed in completely he's never the same um Trevor gillies one of the scariest guys in in pro hockey his first NHL game gets absolutely buried by the boogeyman and you know radisie vanins um Edmonton versus Calgary in the preseason. Never played again. He was supposed to rent my house in Calgary and he got hurt.
Starting point is 00:03:04 No way. That blew up that whole plan. So that scary stuff. I don't mind going against the tough guys and I kind of fought pretty much all comers and was trying to fight, you know, Brashear and different big name guys. But those two in particular, their right hands were breaking guys' faces. I mean, that's not fun. And you don't see that often in a hockey fight.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like a fat lip and a bloody nose, fine. A black guy, whatever. But when you're doing serious damage and changing people's careers, those guys were the scary ones, those two in particular. Okay, so a couple of things. One, you mentioned Donald Bershear. Not sure if you saw the story this morning coming out of Sweden. He's catching on with a Swedish team, 53 years old. And Donald Bershear is still out there.
Starting point is 00:03:53 The other thing that, and this is where it gets, like with you, like I should. share a concern because I care about people I'm concerned about their brains I understand that this is professional and this is your choice and no one's forced to do it I get that and I and I respect it um but what I when I watch fights now like those guys were terrifying I remember that McIntyre Rae to Savonan's fight like it was yesterday and how terrifying that was to say nothing it would happen to Todd Fedorik when he got caved in um but the thing when I see fights now because especially with younger players here I'm going to like grandpa with younger players is they haven't grown up really doing it so the technique's not
Starting point is 00:04:34 great and that's fine but nobody wants to block a punch because nobody knows how like when you watch some of these fights words you're not think you not think to yourself like oh buddy you got to protect yourself better even we saw it with remi right like you saw it with rampi go like buddy you need to learn how you're a big boy but you're not protecting yourself and there's you know deloree and the live like there's still killers out there man And I find that I see that with young players that want to do this, they don't protect themselves at all. They leave themselves wide open. And it's hard, though, like, how do you learn that?
Starting point is 00:05:08 I mean, I always thought to myself, man, like, the amount of scrow, I think if you try to add up every time you were in a bare-knuckle fight on your skates, I'm probably at 160 to 170 times I did that. And for the very first time I ever did it, it's all trial and error. Like, you don't get a dress rehearsal for it. Yeah, you can jostle around with your teammate after practice, whatever. There's nothing that you can simulate where the stuff hits the ground and that whistle goes and everyone turns and looks and everyone in the crowd stands up and you're going for real and your blood is pumping. There's no way you can simulate that.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So the only way to get better and to learn is to do it more. And that doesn't really solve the problem that you're trying to help. Great point. It's like a double-edged sword there. So, but I mean, HockeyFights.com, as you brought up to start this, that was our, that was our, our crutch to go on there and to, to watch and to analyze, to rewind a hundred percent. That was your scouting, yeah. That's what you do. And you'd know what guys did.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And if he likes to throw these big uppercuts, then you know, you know, staying back and keeping your head straight and standing straight up was huge. If you start to try to protect yourself by ducking your head, you're. you're going to eat those uppercuts. So if some guy loves to throw those, you've got to be cognizant of it. And, you know, it's, oftentimes you can hold on and seatbelt enough to protect yourself if you need to.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But where I really see it goes south is when a guy has no idea what he's doing and he thinks I'm going to protect myself by doing this one and bending over at the waist. And you're just, I mean, if you were going to say, I'm going to give this guy a free shot and it's going to count,
Starting point is 00:06:52 what's the worst thing you could do is to put your head in that position to let him throw from underneath right at you. So that's where it gets scary, but I don't really see a lot of ways to prevent yourself from getting hurt and from getting better at it and knowing your logistics and your techniques other than just doing it more. I don't know if people want to hear that or not.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So I'm glad you brought up scouting on hockey fights. One final thing. I swear I'm going to get into Stolar's conversation here, but like how many times are going to get talked to Jay Rose Hill about, like, scrapping, like this is cool. Brad May and I are very close friends I love May Day and one time we were out and I was asking him about the Chris Barch fights
Starting point is 00:07:31 Bartch is now a coach in the OHL and when Chris Bartch was playing on Dallas and May Day was in Anaheim they had some doozies some doozies and so they're at the pregame skate and they're both stretching by the red line by center ice and Barty says
Starting point is 00:07:51 May Day we're not number one on hockey fights right now tonight we got to do it we got we're going to do it man we got to get to number one and and you can see this in the fight you can you can see it on YouTube they go and it's a classic Chris Barch May Day fight it's just like
Starting point is 00:08:07 guys throwing sandwich grabers in each other's faces they're going they're going they're going and May Day said I got I started to get because of an older guy at that point I started to get really tired and Barge was like no May Day come and he's like cheering me on to hit him more he's like we got to get the number one May Day and May Day and May Day is like
Starting point is 00:08:23 Barty, I'm so tired. I'm so tired. Keep going, May Day. He's cheering him on to hit him more. And then they get to the Peli Bugs and Maida's like, I'm just spent. And he looks over and Bartchie's like pounding on the glass go, we did it, Mayday. That's got to be the number one fight on HockeyFights.com. You guys are crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You guys are nuts. It is a weird culture, man. And it's, you know, I defend it. And people who don't get it, they think that they, are able to pick it apart and you can right it's like no other sport has it it doesn't make sense to some people but unless you're part of that culture and part of that game and you you know do it where it's your it's your priority in life like at a junior hockey level or playing professionally it does make sense and there is a reason it's there people aren't forcing it to be there it's there it's there
Starting point is 00:09:14 it's always been there and i argue that it'll always be there to one degree or another maybe not so much as it has been in the olden days of course but it is just crazy how you could say that two guys are fighting bare knuckle and he's cheering him on to get his breath to keep going fighting the guy like in a street fight or a UFC fight you'd never do that it's just such a it's such a thing of its own and i love it it's it's something that i just it's hard to describe and it's hard to put into words but it is something that is so intense and and so unique and it brought the passion and the intensity of a hockey game and it like it was the culmination of all of that
Starting point is 00:09:53 that brought to a scrap usually and I just happened to love that like call me a brute if you want I don't really care I love that and usually nobody gets hurt and usually the guys tap each other on the head after and say good work and you respect each other and the other players who don't even do it respect the guys that do it and they see the value in it
Starting point is 00:10:13 the players have been pulled a million times and they value it quite highly, as a matter of fact. So it is such a unique thing. And I know it's kind of going away. Some would argue it's kind of coming back in a ways. But the way the game is played, just the structure of it, the speed, I just think it's part of the fabric of the game.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And it is very odd. And you hear stories like you just told. And you laugh and shake your head. And I personally, I love it. Fall is here. And everybody's getting back from vacation, headed back to school. And you know what that means?
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Starting point is 00:13:36 Anyhow, for a bigger conversation. Anthony Stolars contract. I'm going to get all serious and professional here, Jay. The Anthony Stolars deal. Listen, I know that gold tend, it's very rare that gold tenders really, you know, ring the bell. And there have been some, and we think of, you know, Igor Shishdurkin has, you know, really rung the bell as far as, you know, financial compensation. I like this deal. Four-year deal of $15 million, $3.75 is the AAV.
Starting point is 00:14:04 He's their top dog, and they got him locked. up at a really good number. I know if Nick Alberger was with us right now, he'd say, that leaves a lot of money for McDavid, Merrick. That leaves it a lot of money for McDavid. But what did you make of the other Stolar's deal? Yeah, I wasn't sure what the number was going to look like. I had an idea of what it would be and it was higher than he ended up signing for. I thought it would be, I thought he could maybe get five if you wanted to get gritty with it. I didn't want to see a holdout. I didn't want to see a distraction. I didn't want to see a bunch of media asking every day, excuse me, about the contract and where they're at negotiations. All of a sudden, boom,
Starting point is 00:14:40 it's done. And at 3.75 a year, you look at his numbers. I know he hasn't been a number one goalie for 10 straight years, but he hasn't had the opportunity to do it. And he seems to be able to, you know, adjust his mindset accordingly. And here was a huge test. You're basically the number one with real good support. You could call them, you know, sharing the number one role. But I thought Stolley was the number one goalie. His numbers were unreal. You're on the stage in Toronto that market has chewed up and spit out so many goaltenders over the last 25 years. It's shocking. So it's a difficult job. And Stolley handled it wonderfully. I think he's got the mind for it. And he's proven himself. His numbers are way better than other goaltenders that he's going to make
Starting point is 00:15:23 now less than. So I think it's a great deal for the Leafs. And, you know, I dare I say that it seems like there's a pattern of, of people, players on the Maple Leafs, taking, you know, team-friendly deals in order to stay in Toronto and have a chance at something. So it tells me that the belief inside of the players, which you're never going to get their honest opinion, they're always going to give you the fluff. But when they put, you know, rubber on the pavement by signing these contracts, it tells me, hey, I want to be here. And that's pretty refreshing because for the past five, 10 years, it has been nothing but, oh, my God, did you see that number of the guy sign? And, you You look at Kyle Dubus, he seemed to give them the world every time the contract rolled around to giving them max everything and no trade clauses and everything else.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And it seems like there's a little bit of a pivot point with tree living. And I can't say enough about what he's done at the helm. The thing about Stolars too is when you talk to all the, all the goalie people, they've been barking about Stolars going back to when he played in Anaheim. And it's like, don't sleep on Stolars. And then Florida, and he's six out, don't sleep on Stollard. like somewhere this guy is going to be a number one kind of like with kevin lankenen and in kevin lankinen's like all the goalie the goalie for turn to be like is everyone's sleeping on kevin lankin and then bam he you know how much of vancouver's season did kevin lichen and salvaged last year anthony stolars was the same way it seems like he was a guy that was just everybody's waiting for the team to give that guy the chance and the weird thing about it is generally it's not the big market teams that gives a guy like that the chance because everything has to be. There has to be a long track record.
Starting point is 00:17:02 We're a heritage organization. This is going to be tough to sell to everybody here. But they did and it's paid off beautifully for the Toronto Maple Leafs here. Yeah, it has. And Stoli, like, you can't knock him for not being a number one so far. What did you want him to do? Just snap his fingers and be the number one in front of Bobrosby. Hey, Bobrowski out.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Hey, Barbrowski out. Doesn't happen, right? And a lot of goal-tending situations, if you talk to him, it's opportunity and you've got to be patient and you got to make the most of the opportunity that you have and take your games and take your minutes and just work on your numbers and work on your game while you're backing up and you can't force something. You're not going to turn down an opportunity to play on the Florida Panthers, but you're going to back up Brovowski and he likes to play a lot. So you wait for your time and when the sun shines, you got to make hay and that's exactly what Stolaris has done. And if you pay attention to the Maple Leafs, when he's in net, he's a big boss. he moves well his angles are good and he's very calm like there could be a mayhem scramble in the d zone and he's just turning them aside calmly like it's the first couple shots of practice and he has this calming
Starting point is 00:18:07 presence that i think reverberate to the defensemen and the rest of the team as well and by all accounts it seems like they're really comfortable with him between the pipes and that's not to take anything away from joseph wool he has some of the same things as well but we're talking about stoli if you watch him he's has a very calm demeanor in there and um the big body he just moves well and it seems to not lose his position very often. I think he had a really good tenure so far in Toronto and I expect him to pick up right where he left
Starting point is 00:18:33 off. One final goalie issue here. If I am the Toronto Maple Leafs, I am not signing James Reimer. I'm saying, I'm going to go with Hildeby and whenever Joseph Wall comes back is when he comes back. I don't understand the rush
Starting point is 00:18:49 to Rhymer's on a PTO. Got to sign him as soon as possible. What's wrong with playing Hildeby. What am I missing here? I don't think you're missing anything, but it costs them literally nothing to bring in Rimer. I don't know. That's fine. That's fine. But like the rush to they have to sign them and he's got to play all these. Why? I don't think they do. And as they're on their, um, their retreat right now up to
Starting point is 00:19:14 the Mascokas to do some team building, which you kind of bring mostly your final roster there. James Rimer's not there. He's with the Marley's squad right now. So I don't know what's going to happen with them, but they've been very tight-lipped about Joseph Wall. personal is going on so I'm not going to speculate I don't know how long that's going to be I can imagine a long time did they have to go out and get someone no did they kind of cover some bases and maybe bring in a familiar face who's been in that market who they may or may not use okay yes but he'll be has shown to be pretty good um I is it time for him to maybe step up and get an opportunity to be in the NHL and to to be that guy while wool is there I also agree with you
Starting point is 00:19:52 why not right why not but so far with that PTO cost them nothing, covers a base, gives them a layer of support there, whether they sign him or not. I haven't really seen them thinking they're really rushing and need to sign him right away. But to me, it's just kind of a layer of comfort having that PTO there, give him a chance to come in. He's a familiar, familiar with the market. But if they end up going with Hildeby, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be surprised. And I think it could turn out well. And for Hildebe personally, what an opportunity to, you know, dip your toe in the water. And that's what happens with goalies. You get an opportunity. You've got to make the most of it.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So maybe he will be that guy. We'll see what happens with Rimer. Major grain of salt with this one. And this is a sort of more wide brush full team question. Big grain of salt because we're talking about exhibition games here. Has anyone popped for you? Has anyone changed your mind? Has anyone sort of caught your eye?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Have you noticed something about someone, Jay Rosell, that, you know, going in the training camp, you thought, eh, I'm just going to, I'm just going to give this player sort of the grocery store nod. but now all of a sudden, hmm, hang on a second here. There's something going on that I didn't expect. Well, it's not that I didn't expect, but like Scott Lawton has looked really good in the preseason. Again, we understand it's the preseason,
Starting point is 00:21:07 but he's a guy who, you know, he's an emotional guy. He's always wanted to play for the Leafs and to come here right before the playoffs during their run. He probably overthought it. He told me that he was overthinking it and probably put a little bit too much pressure on himself and wasn't able to perform up to the level that he could. and I think you saw what he's capable in preseason there.
Starting point is 00:21:26 He's playing against legit rosters. You know, his one game, I think, against Montreal. It was damn near their full roster. And he was just on fire, found a ton of chemistry with his teammates with Stephen Lawrence in particular. And Easton Cowan, who's another guy, I think he's the one piece on the roster where I can see the roster being done aside from that fourth line right wing. You've got Robertson, you've got Yarn Croke, and you've got Easton Cowan. And, you know, usually you'd want to give Easton Cowan at that age some time. to season in the American
Starting point is 00:21:55 hockey league. But if you're able to come in and you're able to find chemistry with linemates and produce, it's not the fourth line like when I played where you're getting six minutes a night. I think you can get 11 minutes a night on the fourth line, get some penalty kill time. And if you're finding chemistry with the
Starting point is 00:22:11 line mates that you're playing with, which he so far has, I think you can force their hand and say, I make the team better. I know that I'm only X amount of years old, which is 20 years old, you're not that old. But if he's going to play like that and he's going to force his hand,
Starting point is 00:22:27 I think he just brings more to the table than Robert Senator Kelly Earncroke and he very well could play his way on the opening night roster. Interesting. All right, thanks for all the hockey fight talk. That's always fun and the expertise on the Stollarsdale. Thanks, pal. We'll talk soon.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Anytime, Jeff. Thanks, man. months I can't get out my head lost all ambitions day to day because you can call it all right I went to the dark man you tried to give me a little medicine I'm like now and that's fine I'm not against those methods but new it's me and myself and how this is going to be fixing my mind The whole on the bracket, I turned on the music. I do on the blanket, I'll turn it on the music. Death in the Family, dives into secrets, deception, murder, and the fall of a powerful dynasty. Inspired by shocking actual events and drawing from the hit podcast, this series brings the drama
Starting point is 00:24:00 to the screen like never before, starring Academy Award winner Patricia Arquette and Jason Clark. Watch the Hulu original series, Murdoch, Death in the Family, streaming October 15th on Disney Plus.

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