The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Julia Tocheri on the Phone Call, Growth of the Women's Game, and more

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Julia Tocheri joins Jeff Marek to discuss the Donald Trump phone call to the men's team and how it impacted the celebration of the US Women's team, the growth of women's hockey in general, what the win meant for Team USA and Canada's next steps, which countries are coming next, and moreLeave a voicemail: https://www.speakpipe.com/TheSheetEmail us: [e-mail] TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoffReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the meantime, she is the co-host of the excellent Jaxon Jill's podcast. One of my favorite, it's got great information and a cool vibe. And she's all of those things as well. She's Julia Torsieri and she joins me now. First of all, how was it being an Italian back in Italy? It was amazing. First, I just have to note the fact that you said trade consummated. I've never heard of a trade officially being consummated and I need to know what it entails.

I try to, as I get older, I try to sexualize everything. I'm just going to be blunt. I try to just make everything a little more. more sexual as I get older. That's all that is. Tell me, do they kiss when they get there? I know. This is like the heated rivalry trade between Colorado and Pittsburgh.

Who made the first move? Who made the first call? I love it. Anyway, trade consummated. Yeah, there you go. It's good. Okay. Italy was a whole thing.

Before we get to everything women's hockey here and the PWHL and the call to the guys, and I know everyone wants to downplate us to not heat things up, but at the same time, and it's an issue. Give me your experience. The Italian in Italy. Go for it. An Italian in Italy. And you know what?

I will have to tell you that at one point, I looked at Tessa. We were at Santa Julia Arena, which I joked on jocks and jills that they named after me, but I didn't want to start publicizing that until it was actually done and completed. Tess and I were walking around the bowels of Santa Julia. And there's this one stairwell up the back that clearly the workers were using like the day before when they completed the work on the place. and it was just littered with a cigarette butts. And I looked at Tessa and I was like, you know what, Tessa, I just don't think that my people were meant to organize. We were meant to relax.

We were meant to have smoke breaks. We were meant to, you know, have a one o'clock afternoon siesta's and then espresso after. However, it was truly amazing. Your words not mine. Your words not mine. Your words not mine. We can own it. We're relaxed people.

I actually felt the ease around me, Jeff. Like I'm the kind of person that gets overly stressed about work. like Zoom out, we work in hockey. I make silly videos. I should under no circumstances ever be stressed out of work. But sometimes you know, we get there. You're running around and you start to get stressed.

But in that environment, I actually felt ease around me from the Italian people. The volunteers were so nice. And genuinely, at points, I felt like boots on the ground advertising for the PWHL because I was very, I wasn't surprised because I feel like anyone who lays eyes on hockey

and gets to watch it live, women's or men's, ends up falling in love with the speed of the game and the physicality of the game and the personality of the players. And there were just so many Italian volunteers who were enamored by hockey and women's hockey specifically.

And we had these great pins. Pin trading gets you a lot of cloud at the Olympics. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say some of our photographers got better positions. Like, I was given free meals. Like, if you have a big bag of pins at the Olympics, and again, Italian people,

I'm an Italian person. I love knickknacks. So you pull out the bag of pins for the volunteers. And basically you have free reign on Santa Julia or Rita. Pin bribes. A little car pins. You had a little espresso pin. I was collecting pins.

My favorite one that I got was from Sarah Spain. I got a pin of Tina playing hockey. Hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I love Sarah Spain. What did you get from Sarah Spain? She made, I got to go get my land yard for it's in my other room. I wasn't thinking before that.

but she made good game specific pins. And I was like, why did we not make Jocks and Jill's pins? Every show needs a pin. Like pins, I know pins are always the thing at the Olympics, but I felt like somehow in Italy, again, if you go to my mother's house or my grandmother's house, absolutely covered in knick-knacks, Italian people lover of knick-knacks.

And I think pin trading reached a new level of hype in Italy. It's not just for the Quebec Peewey Tournament anymore, folks. Right? Or the Elks, Tompham Adam tournament and Thunder Bay. Ontario. My dad would always have us trading pins around. I don't know if you're familiar with that one, but it was always cool and the Mississauga teams and stuff came down to our little town.

I know it by legend. I know it by legend. I want to ask you about the games, but I want to get the white elephant out of the way. And I know that, you know, whether it's Ellen Hughes, who is, you know, very diplomatic. And I understand that nobody wants to throw any kerosene on this. And I understand

it. This has the potential to be an absolute powder keg. And I think that, let me say this. Again, these are my words. I think the women, the women's side of hockey right now is being very responsible and very understated and understanding that they're

sitting on a powder keg right now. And they don't want this to distract from what just happened on their side of the hockey puck. And I just want to say that I recognize that and I respect that. And I know that there are a lot of people that are probably biting their tongues and not saying what they want to say.

But what are your thoughts on everything that we saw post men's victory and the now infamous phone call? Yeah, it was just like when that puck went in the net for Megan Keller and we saw the star spangled dangle and two nations absolutely erupted like one in dismay and one just absolute elation that the woman got to the top of the mountain for the first time since they won in that shootout in 2018 like it just felt like a really great moment for hockey in general and like we see the difference in in numbers on the canadian side and the u.s side and the pw hl like it's great for women's hockey to be growing on the u.s side and we need that uh the pw hl needs that woman's hockey he needs that.

To see Hillary Knight and Megan Keller be the ones to get those goals and the veteran presence leading the way on a team that was like so led by their youth and the youth was starring the show all tournament. Like I'm talking about hockey right now, Jeff. And I think that's because I'm so disappointed that anything took away from that moment. I'm so disappointed that in a moment of what should have been celebration, like there was an unnecessary shot taken at a woman's team who. just have worked so hard and never say an ill word about anyone.

And we saw that there was camaraderie between the U.S. men's and women's teams in the Olympic cafeteria and stuff like that. I saw Megan Keller post a picture with Jack Hughes. That's all great. But to me, my genuine overall thought was just disappointed, that a moment of such great celebration. And that's why I don't want to give it. And that's why nobody wants to give it so much airtime,

because this is a moment about women's hockey, and it shouldn't be about anything else other than the success of this U.S. team and how hard they've worked to get to that point. And if you feel like getting pissed off about something, because sometimes I wake up that way, if you check out Taylor Hise's Instagram story right now, she started her journey back from Milan 24 hours ago. She left the Olympic Village, and we've all seen how the men's team is traveling. So, yeah, if we wanted to be annoyed and rattled in women's sports, Jeff, like, we could be annoyed and rattled every single second of the day. We choose not to. And really what I want to say is, like, it was never about impressing men. Like, do you think that Megan Keller and Hillary Knight, do you think all those girls worked their whole life to win a gold medal in order to get props from the U.S. men's team? If women's sports were about impressing men, like, nobody would be doing it anymore because we,

know the way that it gets talked about when the doors get closed. And honestly, Jeff, I'm going to, give you a little tire pump too. Like, not to commend men on a day like this, but like, thank you for having a show that talks about women's hockey with so much new on since. So much. This is, this is nothing. Like, we appreciate it very much. People, listen, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of better people do a lot of better things for women's hockey than I do. I just do it from my tiny little corner from my tiny little microphone here. And I mean, listen, you know how I feel about the athletes and the PWHL and the future of women's hockey. And I've maintained, like just even objectively looking at women's hockey.

And I've said this, you know, I've had conversations with owners of NHL teams that have been curious about, you know, what goes into, you know, the purchase of a PWHL team, for example. And the point that I've always made is this is the growth area in hockey period. If you're looking for something to invest in that can give you a high ROI, women's hockey is it. and women's sports is it. Like remove all of the like doing the right thing because it is the right thing to do. And girls should have the same types of dreams that boys have when they grab hockey sticks, all of that.

But if we just look at it from a cold hard business point of view, if you're looking at investments and if you're looking at ROI and just like flat out cold hard capitalism and like where can I get like the biggest return on an investment here, the future of. of hockey is on the women's side. And the thing that I keep saying on my male counterparts, too, even if you're not a fan, I can, okay, if you don't like it, okay, it's not a few, that's fine. But please understand that if women's hockey gets bigger, sorry, when women's hockey gets bigger, and when more girls pick up hockey sticks and middle-aged moms

say, I've always wanted to try this and I'm going to join a league or learn to play program, please understand that the men benefit too, because that means there's going to be, stronger equipment manufacturers. There's going to be more jobs for trainers. There's going to be more arenas that need to get built because they're going to need more pads. Like the whole hockey industry grows now because on the male side, it's tapped out.

It's tapped out. If you're going to grow it, it's on the women's side. And please understand that the cascade is going to start from the women's side and go to the men's side and you will benefit from it. So if you don't want anything to do with it, that's fine. but don't get in its way because selfishly it's going to help them too.

Does that make sense? Exactly. Exactly. Like every, like parahockey grows the game. Blind hockey grows the game. Every different way that hockey's played grows the game, but you're right in saying I think that at the forefront of that

is women's hockey. And I think a lot of it has to do with the way the players market themselves as well. Like, I don't know if you spent any time on social media during the Olympics. I don't know. It was just my algorithm and my addiction to women's hockey, but I saw way more of the women than I saw of the men.

They're willing to put themselves out there. Women put themselves out there way, way more. I think there's still a sort of like, eh, I'm not sure if I should do this on the guy's Is it fair to say there's a little bit more to put out there too? These women that have had to be educated, most of them at a very high level, women who have had to work other jobs in order to put themselves through hockey. like there's a little bit more perspective, I think, from the women's players and a little bit more relatability. And I think that has to do with like a lot of things. I think we're going to start to see

a little bit of a difference in how we develop the men's side as well. Like we're identifying our elite players when they're like seven years old on the men's side and we're not developing anyone else after that. So I think there's pages to be taken out of the woman's book on the men's side too. So what we saw on the women's side, you know, it's interesting whenever I talk to, because I'm close with Cassie and she's on the program all throughout the Olympics as well and was she did their first hit from from the chair getting her hair did and she's insane cast the best her and yeah Cheryl just worked so hard all tournament long like shout it to them like who else I know Julie Stewart banks made a joke about it on Twitter that like everybody got there everyone

everyone's so offended everybody's so offended now like everybody's so offended but seriously tell me you're the only one that could do it Jeff honestly I can't think of a mail broadcaster be able to hop on the women's broadcast and be able to speak about it with nuance. That's not true. There are some. There are some. I just like doing it because I like the players and I like the game. Like sorry.

I enjoy it. But here's the thing. Whenever I talk to Cassie, and we always come to the same thing. It's like I remember watching that Salt Lake gold medal game. It's one of the best games I ever saw. Phenomenal. Like the emotion of it, every single shift. Yeah.

like such drama built into it. I'm like, the part of the drama just made that game so great. And I remember saying like, you know, I look at the women's game now and I look at your game. And I remember thinking like, wow, how fast that game was in 2002.

Just like I'll watch on the men's side in 2002. And I'll look at the game now. I'll go like, this is slow. Yeah. We focus so much like how much faster the men's game has gotten. You look at even just look at like, go look at all the PWHs games.

You know? It's so different, so fast, and it's like the hot house effect of the PWHL is now turning over into the Olympics and international events that we see like the game just growing almost exponentially. Is that safe to say? I'm so curious to see what it's going to look like in four years in the French Alps because women are being inspired. Young players are being inspired. We were talking to a couple coaches when we were in Milan. And the European players, like, want to come over to North America. Their goal is to play in the PWHL.

And if you think about, like, the NHL and when it started to gain traction and when it started to be regarded as a legitimate league where players didn't have to work second jobs, it was when European players started to come over. And the game started to grow that way. So we've already seen a few. And like, have you seen the young Swedish players, Jeff? They're just on a different level right now from the health of the world. Did you see their power?

power play. Do you see how they fired the puck around on the power play, the Swedes? Seven and eight on Sweden. Like my, my fiance, Liam, I hate that I use him as an anecdote all the time, but he's kind of one of our official scouts at Jokes and Jill. He watched two minutes of warmups and he was like, who is that number seven on Sweden? Like it pops off the page that much. Think about how much college she has to play still before she can come into the PWHL. So it's just going to keep getting faster. Like we've seen it get faster and faster and faster. You see the way Caroline Harvey's feet move along the blue line? Best skaters in the tournament.

I love Renata fast and man, she is speedy, but I look at Caroline Harvey and I'm like, that's the fastest player in the tournament. It's the best skater in the tournament. Am I wrong about that? No, you're 100% correct. The way that she's skating is on a different level. Like her edge work, how deceptive she is with her feet on the blue line. Like she is doing stuff at a level that I don't think that we've seen before in women's hockey.

and she is not even in the PWHL yet. Like there is four or five franchise players coming into the league next year. And, you know, there's a lot of, like we already touched on it. There's so much discourse right now around, like there's a lot of eyeballs on women's hockey with what's happened in the last couple days here.

And a lot of that's positive. And maybe, again, it's the way I've tailored my algorithm and there's just a lot of support out there for the U.S. woman. But man, I want to see all those people watching PWHL games. I want to see all 7.7 million

those NBHA. B.C viewers at its peak in overtime, tuned into PWHL games now. Well, and I think, again, like I mentioned, I can only be good for the entire hockey world if that did happen now, too. And I wonder, too, because the thing about the PWHL is

right now, like, the next goal as I see it for the league is make your own stars. Because right now, stars are made through tournaments like the Olympics, and then they play in the PWHL. It's the other way around on the men side. And that, like, I know,

Like I'm talking about a league that's a couple of years old here. I'm not going to place expectations on that, like another league that's, you know, over 100 years old and had that momentum all the way and billions of dollars behind it. Totally. But that's like the next stage to make the stars in the league that then you showcase on the international stage best on best. Yeah. And I wonder if it'll be this Olympics that it happens because it's hard for me. Like we're going to see, I picture Hillary Knight in a Seattle Torrent jersey, but it's hard like when she comes to my brain first. I see her as Captain America.

And Marie-Philippe Palin, of course, too. She's so iconic in her Montreal Victoire jersey. But if I close my eyes and I picture her, she does come to my head, we're in the sea for Team Canada. So that's a good question, Jeff. Like, I'm interested to see, but does Caroline Harvey, Caroline Harvey comes into my head as the Wisconsin Badger. Is that fair?

Who's Abby Murphy then to you? Hmm. Abby Murphy is such a golden gopher. Or do I watch too much college hockey? They might. Depends what you watch. But like, that's where we see. right now mainly, right?

Yeah, exactly. So I think now that you say that, maybe there's potential. And I'd imagine, like, we've heard Amy Scheer talk about it. Expansion is imminent. We don't know how many teams. We don't know, like, we don't know exactly what that looks like, but odds are a couple of these players or one of these players at least is going to go to a new team. Like, I think it's a, that's a great point, Jeff.

I'm interested to see if we know these players as PWHL stars by the next Olympics, as opposed to just international hockey stars. will be fascinating. It sounds like the plan is to get this thing to 12 teams. And again, like this is just from, you know, conversations that I've been around, get this thing to get this thing to 12 teams as quick as possible. The thing that I wonder about too is, you know, there's a lot of, as I've mentioned on the program here, plenty of times,

like there are different career issues that women face that men don't. And so for some, this is going to be their last Olympic cycle. And probably some big names here. Like Hillary Knight has already said. Dude, but did you hear her post game? Hillary's being shady. I don't know. I don't know.

We'll see. I love Hillary. And Hillary could create some hype. I wouldn't be surprised if she came for one last dance. She gets the ring at this Olympics and the gold medal. I know what you're saying, though. I wouldn't be surprised. I know Hillary said it's her last one.

I wouldn't see her go for one last ride. I wouldn't be surprised to go for one last ride. And I just, at this point, going out on a silver, like, I haven't spoken to anyone. No one's told me this. I just, I personally cannot see Marie-Fili Planned retiring from Olympic play on a silver medal. I went into the Olympics thinking this was Poulin's last. I did not. Like last, last cycle.

And then Cassie keeps telling me, ah, not so sure about that. Stigley, he's 38. Hulam will be the same age at her at 2030. I just, she loved. the game, man. I don't think you could rip that girl away from it. And especially maybe if they would have gotten gold and it would have been that whole veteran core for Team Canada deciding to retire together. But again, I don't even know who that. Yeah. I don't know. Where does, where does? Because listen, one of the stories coming out of the Olympics was like, look at the young players on the

United States. Like you already mentioned Harvey and Murphy, Leila Edwards, Ford's going to be a force for the next 15 years. Harrison Simpson isn't even playing the gold medal game. And she's, like, She had the biggest viral moment of everyone in the past year. Who wants it? Mark Johnson moment. The question then becomes, okay, so we all, I think people who follow even just casual, will know like the name Chloe Primarano. Like, does Canada have enough young players at that level to offset the Murphys and the Harvys

and the Edwards? Or are we looking at going into a cycle here where it's going to be, get used to the second the second stage of the podium, Canada. You know what? I think that the cycle, this quad is going to be more about identifying exactly who those players are. Because it's not like Canada has just like randomly gone devoid of superstar talent.

I think it was that there was almost a wealth of riches in that age group that was just ahead. You mentioned Chloe Primerano. I still think that she should have been on that roster. I don't know how you feel about it. Like when you go to three on three overtime and you lose like that, and you think about Chloe Primrano, you're kind of like, oh, gosh, she would have been someone great to have out there. Would she have seen any ice? I don't really know. I know it's hard

with a young player, and it's always easy to make rosters in hindsight. But yeah, right away, I thought Chloe Primarano, even to just get her to this Olympics, like, I thought it was very cool that they brought Katie Tape into this Olympics. I thought everyone was given them their props for bringing a veteran's stay-at-home defenseman and saying, oh, like, this is so saucy for Canada, So different for Canada, really mix it up and bring this very reliable stay-at-home D that just hasn't been with the program for very long. But then she didn't see any ice in the gold medal game. She saw like four minutes maximum a game all tournament. So I didn't really understand.

I understood bringing her in the first place if you were going to use her, but I didn't understand bringing her and not using her and leaving Chloe Pramaran her at home, someone that presumably is going to be part of leading this team at the next Olympics and probably could have used. A little bit of a, it's a big stage. Like, as we all saw, like, getting your feet wet at the Olympic stage could be really helpful. Like, we saw what it did for Caroline Harvey. Last Olympic, she averaged, like, three minutes game or something to that effect. And oh, my gosh, I'm such a Caroline Harvey fan girl, aren't I? I've mentioned her, like, three times unprompted.

It's so hard, though. How do you know? It's like, you see someone skate like that. It's seductive. Like, she's gorgeous to watch. It's insane. That stride is phenomenal. So let me ask you about this one.

I got a couple left for you. Sorry, just flagging that you used deductive there. And it's just all your sexual... I get it. Hockey's romantic. How could you not be romantic about that? That's what we figured out this year, right? We all of a sudden like hockey is somehow, anyhow.

Yeah. I'm just going to throw a name out there and I'm curious what your reaction is. Claire Thompson. Oh, Claire Thompson. Claire Thompson, break my heart, rip it out, stomp on it. Like, I will never be over that photo of her. A lot of people, again, Like, it's always cool to have all the eyeballs in the world on women's hockey,

but then sometimes it invites like commentary that that anybody within the game would know is just like not totally relevant. I saw some people saying, oh, number 42 will never recover from this. Number 42 is going to be an orthopedic surgeon. She'll be fine. She is going to continue to start for team Canada. She's going to continue to play hockey professionally. Claire Thompson is just going to be absolutely fine. and I can't imagine anyone with more mental resilience to manage a situation like that.

She got put on a poster. It is what it is. You know, who else got put on a poster on the men's side? Nathan McKinnon and Connor McDavid and guys. Yeah, so she's going to be absolutely fine. Yeah, exactly. She's going to be absolutely fine. I'm glad you asked me that because I've been thinking of Claire Thompson and those moments,

those moments right after would have been absolutely gut-wrenching. but honestly, I don't know. She has so much character, Jeff. I can't imagine many people that would have managed that really hard situation better. Ice water in the veins. Ice water in the veins. Absolutely. Okay, so last one for you here.

And you're always generous with your time. So who's the next country? Like we talked about the Swedish power play. Switzerland, I've always wondered about Finland as well. When do we start to see like a big Finnish invasion? The PWHL might be a sidebar question to this too. Finland and Switzerland are countries. that I've circled as like, I need to see more investment in youth from you.

I was very happy to see Switzerland get the bronze at this tournament. Alina Mueller, such a star in the PWHL, like, she's an amazing person. They're goalie, brandly, best goalie in the tournament. I'm hoping, I think she's declared for the PWHL draft in the past. I'm hoping to see her in the PWHL next season because she is just absolutely excellent. But I just don't see the youth on the Swiss side as much. And I'm hoping that a bronze at this tournament can inspire a youth movement for Swiss hockey. And we know that Laris Stalder has like sacrificed her career and opted to stay behind in Switzerland and get a million points a season and help grow the game in her home country.

So I'm hoping that pays off. I feel the same way about Finland, honestly, Jeff. Like I don't see as much youth coming up there as as we'd like to. So I'd love to see a little bit more investment from the Finnish Hockey Federation in their youth on the women's soccer. and just their women's program in general, because Yenia Kossi again injured at this Olympics. Like I love Yenna Hirokoski, but she cannot continue to be like,

I know she's not. She's technically the backbone, but in my mind she is. She's still there and she still leads that team. And they do have like, Susanna Tappany's an awesome player in the PWHL. Carvin, of course, for the Golden Eyes. But again, I don't see that youth for Finland.

That's scary. Cheki is an interesting one to me. Chechia really underwhelmed me at this Olympics. It almost feels like they've hit their wall with the success that they've had in the past five or so years. And now they need a little bit more structure or they need a little bit more something. They had this kind of like Cinderella underdog vibe to them. And now at this Olympics in Italy, when they were expected to medal and Colton COVID told us they wanted to challenge for silver. Like it just, yeah, it just felt a little underwhelming.

It feels like they've hit a wall. I thought coaching. I thought coaching was going to put him over the top. I really did. I really thought coaching was going to put him over the top. And Carla's so inspiring and she's so excellent. Like the success that the Czech program has had over the last five or so years is largely thanks to Carla. So I'm interested to see what happens there going forward because I know this result would have been really disappointing for them. I honestly like is it dramatic to say Sweden could challenge for a silver medal in 2030? they have that much youth that is that talented

and now got their heart ripped out on the biggest stage at the Olympics. They were nipping at Switzerland's ankles. I thought that they were a better team for a lot of that game. They got a bad matchup in OT. They definitely did not want that matchup that happened when Alina Mueller came wheeling down and got that goal and had the awesome sally.

So I'm excited about Sweden, especially with what that federation's been through in the past years. like they had players walk away, players boycott because they weren't given anything, essentially. And now with some investment, like we've seen a huge improvement, which is great. Like news flash, if you invest, you get success. ROI return on. We talked about this earlier. And if only Kim Martin were born like 15 years later, if only Kim Martin were born like 10 to 15 years later, anyhow, you're the best, always making yourself available, really,

appreciate it. Have fun with the remainder of the PWHL season. Jax and Jills is must listen to and must watch on YouTube. All the best. Please say, alert to Tesla. It's great with us a couple of weeks ago here on the program. And you'd be well.

Welcome back home from Italy. Can I drop some drama before I go? If you guys want women's hockey drama, Montreal Vitoir, New York Sirens, first game back Thursday. I know a lot of your listeners would have seen the check. Oh, yes. The checks take out Sidney Crosby,

but it was Colton Cova first overall this year in the PWHL on Team Checky that took out Marie-Philippe-Puland. Not sure if Marie-Philippe-Pul-I. I haven't heard anything about Marie-Fili-Puland her status for Thursday night, but if it's Calti and Poulin going head-to-head, there's going to be drama.

Okay, now I've talked a lot. Thank you very much. I'm waiting to see Ambrose get back on the ice here and go after, you know who. Add some drama there too. So we'll see what happens here. PWHL season getting spicy. You're the best, Julia.

Thanks, thanks as always, for stopping by. Thank you. to the die