The Sheet with Jeff Marek - On the Sheet: Paul Bissonnette

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Paul Bissonnette on the Brad Marchand trade to Florida, Mikko Rantanen fall out in Carolina, Mitch Marner's next contract in Toronto, who Biz share's a birthday with, and much more...Shout out to our sponsors!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼 Tim Hortons: https://www.timhortons.ca/rollupReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Real quick, Paul Bissonnette coming up here. How much has he influenced your life as a broadcaster and hockey player? Yeah, I mean, I am who I am because Paul Bissonnette made me sign on to Twitter when I was in 10th grade in high school. He made you? I was playing. Well, he didn't make me physically, but the team I was playing for, the Metro Fighting Moose at the time, all we would talk about in the locker room is how there was this NHL

4th liner that actually chirps back at fans. So we'd like take a picture with a cone and tweet it at him, be like, just ran into ball biz on that on the street. You know, we just wanted to get his attention because it was so cool that an NHL player like would notice us. So I actually haven't told him this directly ever because just whenever biz is somewhere, everyone surrounds him. He just attracts everybody. That's the guy he is. But yeah, like my teammates back then when I signed into Twitter for the first time, they started calling me Laz Nasty because I was such a big Biz fan growing up. My birthday is actually in 11 days on March 22nd and I used to tweet at Biz every year

my birthday to chert me. So maybe if he's hearing this, he can chert me on my birthday this year. That's something that the 15, 16 year old Johnny Lazarus would have died for. Let's see if we can do a quick overlap here then. Zach, can we get a, can we get a visit board for a victory lap here for Johnny Lazarus with Paul Bissonnette from the NHL on TNT and the Spittin' Chicklets podcast as we get them set up here. Zach, can we do the three? The three shot? One thing I will say. There we go.

The three banger. I'm not gonna chirp you Johnny Lass. Come on, man, what do you mean here? So hang on a second. I'm not chirping, we're coworkers. But here's the thing, Biz, thanks as always for stopping by, pal. Here's the thing, I don't mean this as an insult,

but do you understand like the, no, I know you do. Trust me, I'm the same way. Everyone gets free shots. More than compliments actually. Do you get an idea of like how influential you've become? Like here's Johnny Lass. I don't like, I don't really like to think about it. It's true though, bud, it's true.

Like do you get a sense like hearing that story from Johnny? Like what goes on in between your ears? Yeah, no, that's pretty cool. And it was fun because I guess at the time, like, not only were there not a lot of NHLers that were active on it, I was just fortunate enough to be in a market where like the PR department and the team didn't care that I was like going back and forth with fans. Like, you know, like a few matches here like I was going at it with Kaniacs the other night after this whole rotten and debacle like

like I love it and I love passionate fans and I like kind of joshing back and forth about hockey and And I love taking the piss whether it's a pylon that somebody's sending me who's saying great running into biz or whether it's a pigeon eating breadcrumbs on the road. Hey, I just ran into biz. So, or at the grocery store, the grocery stick, oh, hey, you just ran into biz. So I love that shit, you know? And it's great to see, man. And congrats, Lazzy, on your career and what you've done with it and being in the mix, not only on social media, but the interviews you're doing with players for BR and everything else you got going in your, in your media world. And it's also nice to see that you kind of like, you, like even you too, America, you guys don't pigeonhole yourselves. You guys do all types of media

and never really say no to anything. And it kind of continues to evolve any way you got, we want to bury it. So it's awesome. I'm very flattered, but I kind of I said this on our podcast recently. It just seems like with the league and where everything's going, it's like the what's the boat comment like all tides? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tides rise all boats. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. High tide rise all boats or whatever. I'm not a big quote guy, but you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I know it's self-deprecating humor. And that's like where I get my humor from. But when I first heard of Spinn-Chicklets, I was a freshman getting scratched. You know, I was playing fourth line trying to get into the lineup. And I listened to you guys talk. And you just talk about being a teammate and being positive around the guys. And it would help the guys like me that were going through it at the time. So like, that's why you were so influential for a guy like me. And I don't want to take up too much time in the show, but I think people. No, no, no, I appreciate the comments.

And that's cool to hear because like, you know, sometimes I get like some players might get discouraged, but you know, there's all roles are important. And especially if you're bringing that positive energy, like that just means they're going to want to keep you around. Right. And you can continue to go to the next level and also just teach you good, I guess, life, life qualities, bringing it into the working world, right? You know, you're not always going to be in that position that you want. So if you keep that positive attitude and I agree with you, man,

and that's awesome that I was able to kind of help out with that part of your career. So appreciate the comments. And like I said, right back at you, man, you're doing your thing and, uh, and it and and it's great to be a co-worker of yours. Yeah inside you there's a 15 year old Johnny Lazarus that's doing what right now? Oh he's uh I'll keep it PG but there's no John Lazarus. I'll be going on his pod pretty soon I just texted him I'm kind of jammed up the next couple weeks but I'll be hopping on with him. That's all right before we go into playoffs. And like, you know, all us media members just keep snapping it around, man. It's

great. It's great to see what's happening with the league. And there's so much to talk about. That's awesome. Here about Darlene. How's your How's your day going, bud? Paul Bissonnette from NHL on TNT. Hey, man, I Hey, I'm just repeating what I heard. I'm just repeating what I heard. You know, it's funny too because, like, I've been in your position many times. Like, it's tough out there. Like, it's really hard. And especially when there's like a whole... I'm not an insider.

No, I know. I'm not an insider. But here's the thing. Like, you don't even have to be, right? Right now there are so many stories, I was saying off the top of the show, the person at the hospital who does triage has the hardest job there, I shouldn't say that. One of the toughest mentally tough jobs at the hospital

to say, okay, this is more important than that and this needs to get more detailed than that and this person's here, no, you're gonna wait a little bit. Putting it all together, like, it's not the easiest thing in the world. And when you're doing something like a podcast that has the audience that you have,

like, you know, like the gravity that your words carry, and I've been in situations where it's like, I've stuck my neck out and said one thing based on what I've been told and someone else says the opposite and eventually it all works out. It's just a tough sit for a little while, that's all. Yeah, like I personally, because like I don't really care.

Like that's kind of where I'm at. Like, you know, I repeated what I heard. I said, apparently. And, and I mean, you gotta think though, like with what's going on there and, and, and how quality of a player that Dallin is, I mean, I think he's got what six years left on his deal. Like you think this guy is going to put up with this for

much longer? Like I, from other things that you're here about just how things are ran and the, and the way that the, the, the camaraderie and culture is on the team. I just can't see this guy sticking around much longer if it ends up like this. Would you say that if they miss playoffs next year and the following year that he's still a Buffalo Saber in year three after that?

Listen, I think this off season all bets are off for a lot of those players on the Buffalo Sabers. Listen, I think this offseason all bets are off for a lot of those players on the Buffalo Sabres I think you're like honestly like your your your point about players Feeling you know misguided here. Like here's the thing. Like I always look at hockey players and say If I'm a hockey player like Rasmus Dallin, I'll give the Buffalo Sabres Part of my career for a rebuild but not too long I can't I can sit through one I ain't gonna sit through two. And I'm definitely not gonna sit through three. I got a long-term deal, et cetera.

But you know, you played, you have this finite amount of time to do it, to make your money, legacy, all that, championships. I'll do the rebuild once, but that's it. That's all you get at. I mean, speaking from personal experience, I would have done the rebuild for 20 years, because that's the player that I was,

and that was the position I was in. But when you're a player of that magnitude, and you've been playing in that type of situation for that long, like there's gotta be frustration and a boiling point at some time. And I just think that at a certain time, this guy is going to be like, all right, enough's enough. I'm out of here. Like he just, his talents are

going to waste right now. He's a world-class defenseman. There's plenty of teams out there who could use a number one D man who don't have one. I mean, I would probably say Toronto Maple Leafs are that team. I would say the Carolina Hurricanes, I would say probably at least 10 teams in the league don't have a number one defenseman. So that's true. They have that luxury. They also have a few more behind him in the pipeline. So I don't know. I don't know what transpires here and he can deny whatever comments. I was just repeating what I was told. And I, yeah, that's, that's kind of all I got on that situation, man. You know, right now in the NHL,

you guys were talking about this on the most recent edition of Chicklets. Like, on the ice it's hot, and I want to get to the Superman punch here in a couple of seconds. Benoit last night. But as far as there's action on the ice and now there's more of an accent on violence on the ice,

we see more scraps than ever before. I don't know that anyone ever went poor saying, you know what, we need to stop selling so much sex and violence, it's really not working. I don't think anyone's ever said that before. But you look at the NHL now, it's like every single day, there's another blockbuster storyline, right? Like for so long, the NHL would run away from all of this Now in everyone in the media we're like, no, like embrace this. The product is hot. The product is tough.

The product is awesome. And off the ice, there's things for everyone to talk about and everyone to follow. Like what's got your attention more than anything else? Either on or off. Well, just going back to like your like your original comment there where like the fighting has seemed to pick up especially after the four nations I feel like every night. There's a big one You see Matthew Olivier In the attention that he's gotten from kind of taking the heavyweight belt away from maybe some bigger names all of a sudden He's got what 13 goals on the year

He gets rewarded with a three times or six times three great to see Dean Anderson put him on the second line the other night Do you see that he bumped him up to the second line he's played over 17 minutes in two of the last five games for that amazing so just awesome to see and he's and he's earned it um I think it just it's I mean you look at UFC and how fast that's grown and how people do like the violence right I'm not saying I want the knuckle-draggers of the past just lining up tapping each other on the shin pads. The best thing about it and the spark of it all since Four Nations is it always seems to happen naturally and organically and we're getting the offense and the the high skill

players, we're getting the big saves, we're getting the we're getting everything and that's what I think the game needs and you said as, as you said, we're not running away from it now. We're embracing it where, you know, there was a sensitive time there on Twitter and in the game with with all the CT and head contact stuff where it seems like a lot of people were beating the drum of get this out of our game where it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is the one thing that separates us from a passion perspective compared to other major sports. We're fourth on the totem pole, so we need any of the help we can get.

And now that you've seen that we've been embracing it, what's happening? We're starting to gain a little bit of traction on not only baseball, which I feel like we're a way better product than baseball, especially come regular season. But now with the NBA and kind of the pre-Madonna approach that their players have taken where, listen man, most hockey guys

are putting it on the line night in and night out. And it's awesome to see. And not only that but the parody in our league, it's speaking for itself. Not only at the top with the fact that probably eight teams are cup contenders this year, but look at the wild card race. Like it's just awesome to see all these markets engaged right now. And even if their team isn't in the mix, they're still hot to trot online given all the rumor mills and crazy storylines going at it. So it seems like everybody's engaged right now and there's just no doubt that the traction that the four nations has caused has just continued to snowball and here we are. You know everyone in a certain generation will always talk about that Jerome

McGinley, Vincent LeCavillier fight like oh wow the two superstars go ahead but the Kachuk fights at Four Nation of like that's the new this generation's version of Eginla and LeCavillier throwing down it's like wow I can't believe these guys did this on this stage. That was the Stanley Cup final. This is the four nations. And then you get Brady and Tom Wilson going at it. And I'm sure that, well, I think it was Drew that hit Tom Wilson and he said something to him.

And then Brady came to his aid, but with everybody kind of, oh, if Tom Wilson was in the Canada lineup, it'd be a different story where it's like, he probably read that or saw that. Oh, you think so? I agree, I agree. It's awesome.

My first thought was for that was Brady Koshak saying, oh yeah, you don't think we would have done this if Tom Wilson was there? Try this on for size. We're doing this like on a Saturday afternoon. We're doing this just for just like breaking sticks. And that's something that I think that our game needs in order to gain like just like general interest from like an average American fan.

Like that, the obviously that game at Four Nations, the one in the round, Robin, like I keep talking to a lot of people saying like, Oh, I had all my buddies who I think it was Rick Bonas who we had him on the TNT panel shortly after. And he was like, I got buddies in Tampa Bay where I live, who at the golf course, who don't even follow hockey, asking me like, hey, what's going on with all this hockey stuff? Like, which Tampa Bay Lightning game should I go watch or buy tickets to now?

Like, who are the fun teams to go see? So even just hearing that, it's just awesome where people just want to see competitive people on the ice or in sport in general going at it. Okay, I want to ask you about Brad Marchand here in a second, but first, I did a really poor job of introducing you because it's your birthday. So happy birthday, Paul Bissonnette.

Now, have you ever gone back and looked at what happened in hockey different years on March 11th? There are two that stand out to me. So one is the closing of the Montreal Forum. Last game, 1996. Oh, shit. That was a March 11th It was Andre Kovalenko's quote. The last goal is a 4 to 1 win Montreal over Dallas. Okay, but that's not the big one that I want to get to

1979 There's a game between the Los Angeles Kings and the Philadelphia Flyers where Randy Holt Set the single game penalty minute record with 67 Pims three fighting majors. He fought he had hang on He had three game misconducts two tens three fighting majors got a minor for a hold early or something like that He had two fights with Frank bathe whose daughter now works with the Los Angeles Kings, Karlyn Bave. You play with the Philadelphia Lions. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yes you know Karlyn right? Yeah yeah she does all the in arena stuff. Yes. Yeah plenty of the media. Yeah she's awesome.

So her dad. Beautiful girl, very talented. Super talented. I think she recently got married as well. Yep and so yeah so her dad fought twice and then he fought Paul Holmgren. This is all, dude, this is all in the first period, okay? So here's my question for you. First period, 100%. Yes! First period, 67 PIMs. So here's my question, what's the most PIMs

you ever had in a game, birthday boy? Oh God, I would say 17 in an NHL game. Yeah? That would be my guess, a two, 17 in an NHL game. Yeah. That would be my guess. A two, a five and a 10. Okay. Maybe 19. You had games where you had two fights though, didn't you? Yeah, but I would have assumed that if I would have gotten a 10, that that would

count more than just like, my guess would be 17 minutes and it would be against in a preseason game maybe they didn't count that though and it was when I jumped the boards for Max Domi when Rodislav Klezla got hit by I want to say it was uh it was Nolan for for LA and it was a preseason game so I jumped over the boards Jordan Nolan Olin. Yeah, Jordan Olin. Max was skating towards the bench. We made eye contact and then the scrum was across the area. So as soon as I made eye contact, I jumped, went to the scrum to grab him. And then Max being the good teammate that he is,

kind of was like, oh, something must have happened. So he turned around and went. So I got 10 game misconduct and it was reduced to three games so it ended up costing me 11 grand it almost cost me 67 grand so that would have been a heavy heavy dent in the salary. Who is the who is your favorite tough player growing up? Who was the guy for you? So I was a massive foot and Chris Pronger fan just because I was the defenseman at the time so not necessarily a like scrappers per se but

guys who could handle their own business like if push came to shove like they had no problem handling their own business and when I was a D man playing in the Ontario Hockey League or even coming up like I had never had an issue like if I was getting in that front battle and push came, like I had never had an issue, like if I was getting in a net front battle and push came to shove, I had no problem shedding the mitts. So I was never shy from that. So that's what helped me, I guess, um, it made an

easier transition actually just strictly becoming a fighter. So here, here's what I think on, on Adam Foot. I'm glad you mentioned that. Cause he's one of my favorite people to talk about. I think he should be in the hockey hall of fame. Like there's a couple of areas in the Hall of Fame

where they've kind of fallen down. One of them is goaltenders and they're cleaning that up. Like every year now a couple goalies go in. Yeah. But defensive defenseman, like that's why I was happy to see Kevin Lowe go in, you know, but before that it's like Rod Langway. You know, it's like the defensive defense,

the classic defensive defenseman, I'll transition this like someone like Jacob Slaven, like doesn't get any love from the Hockey Hall of Fame and never really has. And from that era, I'd put Adam Foote. That's a great point, yeah. And like you're talking about for what? 12 to 15 years of his career at the top of his game.

Yes. Having to go against guys like Brandon Shanahan and just net front battling with these, these mutants. And this is also a different time too, right? Where, I mean, I'm sure he was getting enough, uh, guys breathing down his neck on the forecheck, but also, you know, just the, the, the punishment that he would have to take. So I agree with you there. And what does he have to Stanley cups as well? Yeah He's got a pair of Colorado. Yeah, so yeah, I can't deny that and he was talking into a piece talking to such a big Did they I mean he even at some point was putting up like

45 50 points as well as being a shutdown defenseman So you'd have to I do you have to probably pull up his hockey DB, but I wouldn't be shocked if he hit the 50 point mark maybe twice in his career. Yeah, most he ever had actually was 31. No? Nah, 31. Really?

Oh fuck, I thought he was a little bit more offensive than that. Back in, back to 0304. Yeah, plug. One of the best defense we've seen in that era. I thought maybe there was a year he had like 10-15 goals and... There was a year he had 11. Oh, we got Tulski on the line here.

What's that? Am I allowed to ask a question? Where? Oh, there he is right there. What? Oh, Tulski's on the line. If you get a chance to ask him, can you the line if you get a chance to ask him Can you ask him if he had a chance to talk to Ratnan or his agent before the deal ended up going down? Because what I'm hearing is that they never discussed it with them and got clearance to negotiate a contract before it went down

We're gonna do the one discrepancy going down right now in the back and forth of the run and saga Yeah, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a timeline with Eric at the top of the arrow when he hops on here. I wanna spend a couple of moments here with you on a couple of things. Mitch Marner, I'm still firmly of the belief that even if he goes to market, and Darren Ferris, I was mentioning this a couple of seconds ago, before

he came on, he's an agent that likes to take his players to market. See what's out there. Why not? You've earned it. Here's your right. See what, see what your value is that at the end of the day, push comes to shove. He ends up in Toronto. You think he's going to end up in Toronto? I do. I just think that's leaning. So now just based on the, I felt like it was maybe a little disrespectful at this point given the season that he's had after dealing with all that in the past to then get asked to wave it again.

I thought that I was shocked to hear that. And also if you hear that they're prepared to give somebody who hasn't put sweat or sweat equity into the organization and hasn't been able to play in that type of market and Offer him 13 and a half and maybe even a little bit north of that I just don't think that there's any way that that he's taking any type of hometown discount so I think that Marner's probably looking at 14 sheets now if in Toronto,

cause I think that anybody else would give it to him. I just don't see him based on the, maybe the disrespect that he's felt at this point, maybe not even wanting to come back, but if he still does, he ain't taking the deal. And at that point, are they even offering them that type of money? Like, ah.

Do players though, not look at that and say say that's part of the business of hockey. I Think that maybe in the offseason when When he didn't pay play up to his playoff Like the playoff performance maybe didn't match the tag that he was making I think that anybody could have reasonably looked at that in the off season and said that. But then when he came back this year, performed up to the standard that he has, he's probably been their best player given the fact that Matthews, I mean, you could argue Nylander in the first half of the season might've been a little bit better with the goal scoring. But as far as playmaking, penalty kill and how many areas of the game that he touches, I think

that Marner has been their overall horse this year and to still get asked at the deadline given with the situation he's put them in to to waive a no move. I just have it's like how much can you put the guy through and expect him to come back at a hometown rate and and and and given the fact that they seem to be eagerly, they seem to eagerly enough wanna move off of him, why wouldn't he take that as disrespect, Jeff? Do you not though look at Mitch Marner specifically and look at, see I don't just look at Mitch Marner, I look at Mitch Marner, Inc.

And I look at like the totality of, because we're not just talking about a hockey player here. There's so many, whether it's activations or charity initiatives, and I know a lot of players are involved in that. But it just seems like so much of everything that Mitch Marner incorporated is, not that it specifically revolves around one team, but it does seem like a lot of it is predicated on Mitch Marner plays with the Toronto Maple Leafs and that allows all these other things to occur. Yeah, I think he I think he's unreal in that market.

And I think that like if he's if he matches his playoff performance to what he's done the regular season, I would I would be confident in an organization to offer him like 1313 and a half. Give him what you gave Matthews, but give it to him on an eight-year deal I don't like these five-year deals Especially as a fan, right? You're not getting the term if you're getting the the AAV as well So I think that he matches the market perfectly I kind of like what Elliott said about it where I feel like both sides will regret it if he doesn't end up back there

But you have to imagine there's gonna be eight teams that are prepared to offer him 14, if maybe not even north of that, this off season. It's just a matter of whether he wants to go there. And what do you think that Toronto is willing to come up to if they wanna keep him around? I think that your numbers are probably bang on if you're the Marner camp.

And then that's why I say like this guy will go to market, but that doesn't disqualify the Toronto Maple Leafs from bringing them back. I think he goes and he has a look and sees what's out there. I'm, listen, I'm in the camp that says I'm surprised a lot more players don't do that. I expect Sam Bennett to do that. And I expect Mitch Marner to do that this off season.

Now let me ask you about another player who's a pending free agent and that's Brad Marchand. That was a tough one. Let me close on this here. That was a tough one to watch. That was hard because you know he was fighting it back and I was the whole time with my Brad Marchand decoder ring on saying okay is that a shot at Neely? Is that a shot Sweeney what is he trying to say here what's this you know what is he really trying to tell us here first of all that one was a shocker good on Freage like that was a that was a bomb on on Friday you were there for it well I think he's the one who like Freage is the one who reported that they wanted him at what he's making now. And he wanted about seven and a half, I think was around the number.

So apparently that he asked them for a meeting and he was willing to come down and, and basically meet in the middle of what they wanted and what he wanted. And they were still staying firm on their numbers. So let's say they were off by 500 grand, 750,000, like I just don't get how you're not willing to offer, especially a three year deal. So we're not talking about this guy asking for a long term for him to come back after what he's put into that organization and the fact that he's the captain and not pay him even close to what you gave Lindholm.

So it's just, I think it's also a little short sighted in the fact that he's come off an off season where he had all those surgeries. So he hasn't really been able to get his foot in, right? Got thrown in the fire and then you got the four nations and like, yeah, he hasn't looked like the Brad Marshawn of the past, but you know he's gonna go back this off season and put the work in and try to continue

this hall of fame career. I would say he's a borderliner right now. And if you have him on the outside, you know he's so stubborn and he's got that dog mentality where he's gonna wanna be in the Hall of Fame. So you know he's gonna play another three years. And I still think he's a very useful player and also a guy that can play in big moments.

Like he's not afraid of the moment. And that's also not easy to find. So I would imagine that he's gonna find greener pastures playing with the Florida Panthers. And it's probably even willing to take a discount if things go well there too. So pretty good deal though for Florida not having to give up much,

considering that was the only landing place he would have went. So I'm just happy for him. I think he deserves it. And I think it's awesome that Boston was willing to accommodate him for such a low price coming back. Let me finish on this. What's it going to be like tonight in Boston? I know he's not on the ice, but still.

I would imagine there's some chants going on tonight. I think that it was probably a tough, like going back to the Swainman-Almark situation and just kind of everything that's transpired probably not probably a forgettable year for for for the management, but Um, yeah, it's uh, it's uh, they're they're in for for a long rebuild here It's not easy as you can see you were talking about Detroit before we came on Look what they've been they've got the hardest strength to schedule for the rest of the year So I would imagine they're probably on the outside looking in and then look at Buffalo.

That's a, that's a shit show. That one continues. Um, Biz, you're awesome. Thanks pal. Uh, appreciate the time as always continued success and happy birthday. Hi. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for coming on our pod as well.

And no problem. And tell Eric Tulski, I'm sorry for creating so much drama in Cain's land. I, I love him. I love what he's done there. And I actually think that Stan Kovan fits their program, man. That guy's a puck hound. He four checks like a madman and you know he's going to want to be there. And he's on a bargoon contract this year next. Thanks, people. Pass that on. Thanks Paul, you be good. You try to give me little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine I'm not against those methods, but no It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixing my mind I still wanna break it I turned on the music

I still wanna break it I turned on the music It's enough, yeah, I don't get you sometimes losing Helping on the days that went wrong Mmm, in the dead dark night