The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Rasmus Andersson Watch & Chris Drury's Statement ft. David Pagnotta

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Jeff Marek is back with a fresh edition of The Sheet, and today’s show dives headfirst into one of the league’s hottest storylines as he’s joined by David Pagnotta for a full-blown Rasmus Anders...son watch. The guys break down what’s real, what’s noise, and where things could be heading, while also getting the latest on Rasmus Andersson, Luke Schenn, the Dallas Stars, and the unraveling situation surrounding the New York Rangers. Pagnotta also shares his firsthand thoughts after a busy night split between Toronto and Vegas, touching on league-wide buzz and what executives are watching closely right now. To close things out, Jeff and Zack turn it over to the listeners, answering your questions and voicemails as only The Sheet can. Want to be part of a future show? Email thesheet@thenationnetwork.comLeave a voicemail at https://www.speakpipe.com/TheSheetSHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/caReach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff#TheSheet #JeffMarek #DavidPagnotta #NHL #NHLRumors #TradeWatch #RasmusAndersson #LukeSchenn #DallasStars #NYRangers #HockeyPodcast #NHLNews #TheNationNetwork Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:08 Testicles, spectacles, wallet, and watch. We've got them all. We're ready to go. Welcome once again to the sheet for this Friday, January 16th. Glad to have you aboard today. A lot of trade talk on the show today. Every Friday's got a lot of trade talk because Dave Panyoda is going to be stopping by in a couple of moments. And I'm going to do something that insiders hate with Dave, and that is propose a trade.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yes, folks, fantasy trade from yours truly here. But this one, this one's kind of how shall we chum the waters here? an informed fantasy trade. That's how I'll put it out there before Dave joins us. A lot of stuff coming up on the program today and a lot of it's going to revolve around. Raz in Calgary, Raz Watch on. Let's get to the show.
Starting point is 00:00:50 The Blueprint powered by Fanduel, as always. Download the app today and play your game on Fanduel. So coming up on the program, he stops by each and every Friday and each appearance is gold. Dave Panyota, DFO Insider from the DFO Insider's Edition podcast, Wednesdays at 3 o'clock Eastern from the fourth period. We'll talk about the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Vegas Golden Nights.
Starting point is 00:01:13 We should park. I don't want to park a lot of time, but we should have a little whack at the pinata that was Austin Matthews not wanting to talk about Mitch Marner with Mark Masters yesterday, which was interesting. We mentioned Anderson Watch. We'll talk about the Dallas Stars. We'll talk about the New York Rangers.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Get in some sheet mail questions coming up towards the end of the program. today. And that is going to be our snappy show. Oh, and we do have a history segment coming up a little bit later on that revolves an interesting story about 1993 and the Islanders Pittsburgh Penguins playoff series. Yes, the Islanders upset. Dave Volok's name is going to come up a little bit later on on the show. In the meantime, he stops by every Friday. It's always a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Really entertaining, really informative as well. I've chum the waters for Dave Panyoda, who joins me now. Are you in Vegas right now? I am, yes, still in Vegas. So you went to the game last night? Was it weird seeing someone booed in their own barn? That was the weirdest part. That was, because there were a lot of Leaf fans.
Starting point is 00:02:14 There were more Leaf fans. I walked the concourse during the second intermission. There were a lot more Leaf fans than I anticipated. Clearly, people circle this one on the calendar, even though Mitch will be in Toronto with his team next Friday. Yeah. So, but I mean, good excuse. Considering the snowstorm in Toronto this week, good opportunity for everybody to get the hell out of there.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But yeah, a lot of fans, a lot of, a lot of leaf fans, a lot of leaf colors. And the booing, yeah, it was weird. At first, I'm like, wait a second. Are people actually, oh, there's a lot of them. And it, yeah, it made its way throughout the building, which was, yeah, in your home barn to have that happen from the other team. a little weird. Yeah. It's, um, listen, a lot of Canadian markets,
Starting point is 00:03:04 whenever the Maple Leafs travel through, they have that experience where there's a lot of Maple Leafs fans and it makes for, for a kind of weird dynamic, uh, in the building, but, uh, but nonetheless, um, I, you're at the game, so maybe he had a chance to see a clip of this. Maybe it didn't. Did you see Matthews with, uh, with Mark Masters? For those that didn't see it last night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:23 This is, uh, Austin Matthews can be pretty blunt, uh, when he wants to. Uh, this is, Zach, you have this one standing by. This is Austin Matthews with Mark Masters of TSN yesterday. Let's have a peek at this. You and Mitch, the last two out and warm-ups per usual, send a puck your way there at the end. What was the like seeing him over there? I didn't look over.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I don't know. So, yeah, I think I've had enough of the Mitch questions for the day, Mark. So, yeah, let's just get ready for the game and go from there. Okay. So, you know, honestly, my first thought was on something like that. first of all, funny, entertaining, a great little piece for everybody watching the game on TSN last night.
Starting point is 00:04:05 My first thought was, that's what the money's for. That's what the money is moments like that where I keep getting asked about this and I don't like it anymore, that's where you remind yourself, this is what the money's for. Is that an accurate way to look at this
Starting point is 00:04:21 or do you think it's just like, have there been too many Marner questions for Matthews? Well, yes, there have been way too many Warner questions, just in general. Like post game, uh, post game nobody asked Matthews. He was the first one to come out. So nobody asked Austin about, uh, Mitch. But Tavares was asked a question about it. Um, he went through it pretty easily. Morgan Riley was asked a question about it as well. And he was very curt with his answer. He was very just a couple, couple words and that was the end of it. So it, like I get it. The guys are
Starting point is 00:04:54 a little bit frustrated because the storyline should be about them and how the season's going. And Mitch is now part of the past. But because of how impactful he was for that team, and just look at the record books. I mean, he's up there in almost all the offensive categories. He's going to be, you know, when his career is done, I mean, his leaf career is done. He's one of the best Leafs of all time.
Starting point is 00:05:18 So it's relevant and it makes sense and it's topical because it was the first game playing against each other. But I also get the frustration because you want to prep for the game and, you know, they lost one in regulation to Utah earlier in the week. They wanted to rebound two days later to pull up a W. So I get it. But you're right. I mean, stupid questions or necessary.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Exactly. All of it, all of it. Regardless of how many times you get asked, regardless of how dumb the questions may be, not with respect, just in general. Like sometimes we ask some interesting ones. But the guys got to put up with it. and, you know, they get the sheets to do it. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Rasmus Anderson, it feels like we need to all refresh our Twitter, like every two minutes to see if anything has happened. It seems like this is pressure point now. Like, the team that I'm most wondering about are the Detroit Red Wings, but we know that Dallas has been around Raz Anderson for at least a couple of years now. What is the very latest as we have this conversation? Vegas, well, I mean, and listen, like that might be the easiest, to be as well if you sort of follow
Starting point is 00:06:26 your wishes. It is January 16th at 108 Eastern. Where are we right now? Because at 109, the answer you give may not make any sense. Yeah, it could definitely change pretty rapidly. These talks have picked up since, you know, holiday
Starting point is 00:06:42 freeze lifted and they've escalated day after day. And in the last 48 hours or so, maybe a little more, things have really picked up. At least it seems that anyway. The chatter has definitely picked up with respect to Rasmus Anderson. It wouldn't surprise me to see something into going to the weekend and, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:04 we have some type of resolution here. But every indication is that he's going to be moved at some point and that the preference is to do it sooner than later, get this done before the Olympic break. And I think, I think that's been, you know, kind of relayed as well, you know, to the player. So whether it's Dallas, Vegas, Detroit, I think Toronto at one point. Toronto is circled back a couple times. And all indications are with TANF is going to be done for the regular season. So they'll have additional cap space to free up. It won't be the full four and a half that he's making, but up to what is the 3.8 and change.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So there's, there have been a lot of teams that have been poking around on him. $4.5 million cap it. Not astronomical, a lot more power. for some teams, although some others. Like Vegas, for example, is trying to figure out what's going on with William Carlson. Is he done for regular season? Is he going to be done for playoffs as well? How much of that $5.9 million can they utilize if they, you know, if they're going to spend it?
Starting point is 00:08:08 And we know that this owner is not afraid to throw money around. And if there's an opportunity to get better, he's giving Kelly McCriman full autonomy to do whatever he needs to do. But things, yeah, things have definitely picked up on the Anderson side. I think with Calgary in general. Like I think some teams have been poking around a little bit more and having more frequent conversations with Nazim Kadri. Blake Coleman, we know there's a ton of interest there.
Starting point is 00:08:33 One day, they're listening. One day they're telling people, no, we don't want to move them. So a lot of chess being played right now for the Calgary Flames and Craig Conroy. I'm pretty sure you were the first in on Blake Coleman. I want to pick up that conversation in a couple of seconds. But one more thing on Raz Anderson, on an expiring contract. Do any of these conversations depend on an extension? Like I wonder about Boston specifically, you know, a desire, a need,
Starting point is 00:08:59 but unless there's an extension, do they want to trade, you know, Leroy and a first for Rasmus Anderson, for example, just pulling something out of the hat? Do any of these conversations, are any of them contingent on an extension? I think there's been the mess. I don't know if they've gotten to the point where they've given permission to, you know, figure out a contract or talk to the agent. I do know that, and this has been reported before,
Starting point is 00:09:25 that teams that tried before, like Los Angeles in the summer, wanted an extension to go along with it, weren't able to figure that out, no deal. And we know that at the time, at least last season anyway, you mentioned Dallas, Vegas as well. These are the two teams that at the time he was willing to sign an extension with. Whether it got to, I mean, I don't know if it got to that point in terms of discussions, and ultimately there was no trade.
Starting point is 00:09:49 but for Calgary's perspective, I don't know why you wouldn't want to give him, you know, the opportunity to sign an extension because it means you're getting a better return. Not, you know, you're not doubling down and you're getting twice as much as what, you know, his value would be without a contract, but it does up the pot a little bit. So I think there's, and even for him, like he wants to, you know, I don't think he wants to deal with this and start moving around all over the place over the next six months. So I think there'd be a preference on his side too. But just to be honest, I don't know if those discussions have entered the equation just yet.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah. I know sometimes teams are reluctant because they don't want bluntly the player to have the opportunity to sewer a conversation and sewer a potential trade because the player decides that he doesn't want to go there. And that's, listen, we'd be ridiculous to think that that's never happened before because I think we both know that it has. I don't get the sense though, Dave, that that is part of this situation. I've never got that impression. Would that be accurate?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, in terms of this season, same, which is why I don't know if that's going to shift. I don't know if that's going to change. Yeah. You know, they may say, you know, team acquiring may say, all right, if there's an extension, you guys figure it out,
Starting point is 00:11:04 here's what we're willing to do and go from there. But at the same time, you don't want to tip your cap too much from that side of it either. So I would be a little bit surprised if there is one, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. if we get to a point where a team says, look, I'm willing to give you X, Y, and Z if he's on an extension and the flames agreed to it,
Starting point is 00:11:24 then at least you have the framework or the deal ironed out. Now it's just a matter of figuring out the contract. From the Calgary point of view, the thing that I think a lot of us, and certainly Calgarians, would be curious about, is, you know, what type of return are we looking at here? And it's probably the young player and a high pick. Here's what I wonder about the two main suitors,
Starting point is 00:11:41 Dallas and Vegas here. Can Dallas do? this without Maverick Bork and can Vegas do this without Trevor Connolly? That's what I really wonder about here like is there is there any chance that these teams can hang on to these two young
Starting point is 00:11:59 process? Because you know if you're Craig Conroy and you're talking to Vegas yeah we want to talk about Trevor Connolly and if you're Jim Nill and Dallas yeah we want to talk about Maverick Bork. Like is there any world where a deal happens with one of these teams that these players aren't involved? I think
Starting point is 00:12:13 I know at some point the discussion with Dallas hovered around some of their other kids. So I'm not sure, oh, there goes my light. I'm not sure to what extent, you know, those conversations have shifted or evolved. Yeah, yeah, like I would imagine so. So I think the discussion points have jumped around a little bit. I mean, obviously, you know, for Dallas, Bork is the primary.
Starting point is 00:12:36 That's the primary target you would look at. But there are other pieces that I know have been discussed at some point, at least back and forth between those two over the, and this goes back again to last. season. Okay. So we'll stand by. That conversation may be completely meaningless in like five minutes. Like by the time we're done this conversation, it's just the nature of wherever it's at with Rose Anderson right now. It'd be nice to see some kind of move though. Well, you know, like, I don't know that that's like, just as an aside here, Dave. I don't know that that's like a piece that everyone's waiting to move, which will cause like the flood, the flood gates to open and then everyone gets lubricated. And here we are through the weekend. But just to see some action. But to see some action. Just to see some nice action. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I know. Listen, I'm with you, man. Like that's, to me, like, trades are part of the marketing of a league, right? Trades in free agency is part of the marketing. And it's sort of, you know, supercharged. Yeah, as an aside, other sports have this. Would you be in favor of specific trade periods in the year? Maybe you do like two, two times during the year you open trade windows.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And that's the only, just so everybody knows, like for this two week slice in the fall and this two-week slice in the spring, that's where trades can be made. Other than that, you can't make deals. Personally, no. Deadlines make deals, Dave. Deadlines make deals. Yes, yeah, especially in this league.
Starting point is 00:14:02 So I like that. And then I like the random ones that just pop up out of nowhere because it spices things up every now and again. True. And then, you know, so, yeah, I like the way we have it right now. Now, this year a little bit different because of the Olympic freeze. the quasi, you know, deadline junior.
Starting point is 00:14:19 So we'll see kind of what happens here, whether it's Anderson or some other pieces that I'm sure we're going to touch on. But there's a lot of activity. There is. Let's get there then. The New York Rangers. We spent a lot of oxygen yesterday on the program as pretty much everybody did. After a couple of horrendous games,
Starting point is 00:14:36 a game against the Boston Bruins and then the beat down by the Ottawa senators, it's 6-0 before the season ticket holders got in their seats. What happens here? Like I think we're wondering about Panarin, and we all have our theories. I've wondered about Washington, for example, comes into help scoring and then signs a two to three year extension. It becomes the Ovechkin replacement, but I really don't know. I'm just like a lot of us sort of speculating on where he fits.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Carolina could be another one. They're always in the mix. What's the latest? Maybe with Panarin, without Panarin. What's the latest with the Rangers? Yeah, this is another team where things have started to pick up a little bit. And, you know, once, and I've mentioned this a few times this week, and you know this, I think a lot of people do. Once you start to see a team flounder a little bit and they dip in the standings or they get a beat down like they have recently,
Starting point is 00:15:27 teams come calling in. And then all the vultures circle and they go, well, what about this guy? What about that guy? What about, you know, player X, Y, and Z? So, yeah, the conversation with the New York Rangers seem to have picked up. Now, it's kind of twofold. So one, I don't think they've shied away from the fact that if there's a big fish, type of spend like we talked about earlier this season.
Starting point is 00:15:46 They tried going after Quinn Hughes. If they have somebody that they can pluck away that, you know, fits a bit of star potential or is a star and is controllable, he's signed, he's got term. I think the Rangers want to explore that. At the same time, yeah, Panarin's a topic of discussion. Other players, Vinny Trocheck recently has been a topic of discussion. There are teams that doesn't mean the Rangers are going to move all these guys, but teams are starting to call.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And, you know, with Panarin, I'll get to, Trocheck in a second. But with Panarin, yeah, I think they want to have an idea. Can we sign you to a contract that makes sense for us? Otherwise, we're going to have to explore this. And I think they're getting to that point. I don't know if they're there just yet, but I think they're getting to that point where these are going to be more lively discussions involving Penerran. So whether, you know, the teams, whether it's a Carolinas or the Washington's or, you know, some of the other clubs that are out there that have a little bit of cap space, wiggle space, and, you know, are looking.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Like, I don't know about a trade per se, but Los Angeles, to me, you know, a team looking to fill some additional holes up front. We all know they need goal scoring. Yes. But L.A. is an interesting one for me on a variety of different fronts, because they are looking in different avenues to get a little bit bigger and physical in one area and then add more firepower slash goal scoring in another. So I'm curious there.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And I mentioned Trochecks. There are teams. One team that has been circling on him, the Minnesota Wild, and we know that Minnie is not afraid to continue to make moves, and Billy Garan has been very active. Yeah. Before the Hughes trade, he was looking at a second line type of player, top six type of guy.
Starting point is 00:17:32 That hasn't really stopped. So whether it's going to be at the center position or somebody else on the wing, but it certainly sounds like at the very least, Minnesota has poked around on Vinnie Prochecks availability in New York. USA hockey, the Olympics, Bill Garan, few connections. Procheck. Oh, by the way, I saw something, read something this morning that made me think of you
Starting point is 00:17:52 and I wanted to make sure that we went over it. At the Mayor's Manor site, they were wondering and speculating on, based on certain conversations, Van der Kaine, Ken Holland, you know, went for him once. Does Ken Holland shoot for him again? Now that the fire sale, I shouldn't say fire sale. Now the sale is on. in Vancouver. Yeah, I started hearing that about maybe a week ago,
Starting point is 00:18:15 that there were at least some loose conversations between them. And then, yeah, as you said, yeah, Mayor John Oven put that out yesterday, I think it was, with respect to their availability. Now, I don't know necessarily if it's focused exclusively on a Vander Cain, because I do think there are some other pieces that the Canucks have that the L.A. Kings have interest in and have expressed some interest in. And I know with Vancouver, the Connor Garland topic has picked up quite a bit in the last couple of weeks. With a lot of attention on Sherwood, we heard all the Jake DeBress stuff after he was scratched and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:18:50 But Connor Garland is another player with his no trade or no move, whatever it is, kicking it in July. There have been some discussions there as well. And again, LA needs offense. I don't think they're going after a Vander Kaine for his goal scoring ability because it's not really been there this season. I think it's the other intangibles in his game that might attract a team like L.A. to it, but I think there's interest in some other players there. So I'm wondering exactly what is kind of cooking there.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Is this a little bit larger than just going after a player for, let's be honest, there's not a lot of, like the Canucks aren't going to be pulling in a hall for a Vander Cain. It's likely a prospect or a draft bit, but does that conversation expand? I do wonder how much business Vancouver does get done at this trade, deadline. Like I look at, I was saying this on Scarison Price today. Like I look at the Detroit, I look at the Detroit and I say to myself,
Starting point is 00:19:44 like if I'm Steve Eisenman, I can do all my shopping in one place. And perhaps the most interesting idea that I was talking to about someone not too long ago was you know who needs Philip Pironic? Detroit. You know, I don't know if
Starting point is 00:20:00 he would be interested. I don't know if Detroit would be interested, but I look at the player and what he brings and who he is. And I look at Detroit and I say that's the exact defenseman they need right now. There's a lot of different types of forwards they need and they do need a top six, one more top six guy. But as far as defensemen go, I keep coming back to Philip Ronick. Yeah. And look, I know a lot of Detroit fans always, you know, say, well, nothing comes out from Steve Eisenman's camp and whatnot. And you're right. Keeps it close to the best. But there's 31 other teams that like to, you know, dish a few things out as well. and the conversation, when you're that active,
Starting point is 00:20:36 the conversation starts to expand a little bit, and the whispers get a little bit louder. So it's clear that the Detroit Red Wings are exploring the market to see how they can improve this team now and moving forward. And you're right, D-Corps, we just talked about Rasmus Anderson earlier. They're looking at the top-four quality guy, and then at the same time, they've been looking for another team,
Starting point is 00:21:00 extra firepower up front. And I don't know to what extent they get involved in, you know, the full rental market. We know that they've had interest in Kiefer-Shirwood. That's one of the teams that have poked around. He's injured right now. But, you know, there is a, there's, you make an interesting point because there is an opportunity here to pluck a couple of pieces away from, you know, a team versus having to kind of make, you know, multiple type of moves here between now and the trade deadline. But it's clear Detroit's active. to what extent that action becomes reality.
Starting point is 00:21:32 We've got to wait and see when Steve he pulls the trigger. I want to ask you about Dallas here in a second, but I want to do something that I'm sure is going to get an eye roll out of you. I want to propose a trade. Now, this comes from a conversation. I know this is what every talk show host hates. I get it. I got a trade for you.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Okay, here we go. So this comes from someone who, the way I'll frame it is this. This comes from someone whose career trajectory is on the way to him becoming a general manager in the NHL. So there's a lot of talk about Dougie Hamilton and no trades and no moves and the nature of the knot that the New Jersey Devils find themselves in. So this person said to me, here's the deal that he would propose. Dougie Hamilton Cody Glass Seamus Casey
Starting point is 00:22:36 to the Nashville Predators in exchange for Stephen Stamcoce and Justin Barron Nashville retains half on Barron which gets New Jersey cap compliant
Starting point is 00:22:51 the two primaries here of course being Stamco's for Dougie Hamilton for Stamco's he can go back and play with Andre Palat and Jack Hughes and for Dougie Hamilton, it's the proverbial change of scenery trade as things are not working out in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Does that one resonate with you at all in this fantasy world that I have conversations with people about? And then watch, he's going to get a GM job, and it's going to be like, that's ridiculous. And just stop with all the fantasy trade nonsense. Now I was like, it's all the NHL deadline, but then all changes when you get hands on the wheel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Look, I think a lot of boxes get checked here because, first of all, New Jersey has that interest in Stamco's since that became a possibility going back earlier on in the season. So I think there's definite interest and there's been a reluctance from New Jersey, excuse me, apologies, from Barry Trotson, Nashville to retain at all on Stamco's deal. Don't have to here. How do you make the money work? Well, this is exactly. This is how you, this is how you can pull it off by moving out Hamilton and doing that. Now, less, a little bit less term. I think Stamco says.
Starting point is 00:24:10 No, they have same term. They have same term. They have same term. Yeah. So, but now you're moving out, yeah, from New Jersey's perspective, you're moving out a guy that needs a change of scenery. And I think at this point definitely wants one. And you get some other pieces if you're Nashville, you know, that make
Starting point is 00:24:30 this more inviting. And it allows you to do some other work potentially afterwards as well if you've decided to move on from Stephen Stamco. Now, at the end of this, it really comes down to obviously Stammer being comfortable with the deal. And because of the- That's the big one. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:47 That's the exact issue right there. That's it. For me, though, because the interest in New Jersey has been a good chunk of the season so far, I haven't been given any indication that. this is that they're no longer part of the mix, which would lead me to believe that, obviously, this has gone back to the player and that there would be consideration for something like this.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I don't know this definitively, I'm just trying to connect dots here. Sure. But because this has gone on for months in terms of New Jersey's interest, I've got to believe that there's at least some consideration that he would give to making this happen. But the numbers make sense.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Maybe there's a few other players that got kind of swapped out. It does make sense from that perspective. The pitch, if you're Nashville too, is like we're sending you somewhere that's closer to the playoffs than we are. That's closer to the point. And you can play with Andre Palat again and probably Jack Hughes. Yeah. Like there's, it's, it's, and that's what, look,
Starting point is 00:25:48 especially the way that Sam, Samcos has been playing now and recently with him getting back on track over 20 goals again. And like, this is an opportunity for you to spike up those numbers, play in a more, well, fast pace. I mean, he's not the fastest, he's playing a stretch, but, you know, lost a little bit of speed, but this is a different, in terms of overall competitive pace,
Starting point is 00:26:09 it's different. New Jersey still wants to get things going and they still want to push for playoffs and they still believe that they have the, you know, the horses to do it, but they've been struggling and scoring the goals. And the Stamco's, he hasn't lately. We have someone by the name of Jack Hughes, who will look for you every time he's on the I.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. Right? He's going to find you. You can do your thing. He will get to you. Yes. He'll give you the buck. You can live in one-timersville for the rest of your career because Jack Hughes is your center.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Dallas, a couple moments left with you. Dallas, what's the latest with Jim Nill squad? This is like bluntly, this is another, obviously, go for a year for the Dallas stars. Yeah, and this is another scenario where similar to last season, they went to one spot and they went to San Jose. And they brought in Mikel Granlin and Cody Sisi. Checked a couple of boxes. is here. I think that's what they want to do again. And I think a lot of people understand that that they've got an area that they want to address on the back end and they want to bring in
Starting point is 00:27:08 somebody up front, not having Tyler Sagan for the rest of the season. So for them, there is activity. You know, and they like, like last year, I think it was, I remember correctly, it was February 1st of 2025 when they pulled off that trade. So Jim Nill is another guy that would like to prefer and would like to get business done in advance of the deadline. Now, this year, again, the Olympic freeze, a little bit of, you know, it kind of changes things. I don't know how much urgency it really does because we touched on earlier. Deadlines.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Everybody in this league likes to work on official deadlines. But it will continue to get the juices going here and the conversation going. But this is another team that if they can bring in, you know, top four kind of guy on the back end. I think, you know, last year they brought in CC to help solidify that third. pair. I think they'd like to bring in somebody who can fit, or at least is capable of top four minutes, and then another top six quality guy. And this goes back to, like, they have interest and they've had interest in Blake Coleman, you know, for some time. And I believe that
Starting point is 00:28:13 Coleman wouldn't mind being part of the Dallas Stars if he gets moved there. So there's a possibility with all these, the connection to Rasmus Anderson to potentially go that route. Obviously, the return's going to be a little bit bigger here if Dallas does do this. Okay, I want to ask you, you were at the game last night, so maybe you didn't see or hear about what happened in the Columbus Dallas game last night. Do you see what happened at the end of the game? No, I did not. Kevin Stenland played the final three minutes and 51 seconds.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I know all the oldsters saying, this is like Ovalov and Rangers and Mike Keenan. It wasn't like that. They're protecting a one-goal lead, Utah is. and so it's Utah, not Columbus, Utah and Dallas, 351 to end the game, no change. Now his face off percentage is like 63.5 or something like that. So it makes a lot, it makes a lot of sense. But it was just weird watching a guy as all of his linemates change,
Starting point is 00:29:13 Kevin Stenland stays on the ice for 351. We've seen defensemen. But centers, now mind. A lot of trust. Right? That's what I'm thinking. Like, good on bear for sending him out there. again, but it leads me to a last question for you.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Utah is going to do something, right? Like, you, of all the teams, like, you, I can't see Utah being this close with that GM and maybe more specifically, that owner, sitting this close and saying, eh, you know what, we're okay. I can't, I can't see it. I can't see it. This, this has been the interesting one, because we talk about, and I've mentioned this early on in the season two, but we've talked about, you know, Carolina.
Starting point is 00:29:55 and, you know, New York and some of these teams that are not afraid, San Jose now, not afraid to take big swings, Vegas always. Utah's another. Utah since the start of the season, since the off season, has been, and they made the Petirca trade. But this has been another team that I'm just waiting, because every indication that I've been given from people in that organization is that we have the means to take a big swing
Starting point is 00:30:21 and to go get another big fish if we need one. and it's just a matter of finding that piece. And I'm just waiting for them to try to find that. And maybe it shifts because how the market ends up being dictated over these next few months and trade during the Olympic freeze. You can still talk. So maybe that definition of what they're looking for gets altered because of it, at least for now.
Starting point is 00:30:44 So maybe they do enter kind of the rental mix. But I think it's somebody, the preference would be to go bigger and bring in somebody that's controllable. and has term and is not just a, you know, a piece for the rest of the season. Again, that may change, the philosophy of that may change, but I'm just waiting for Utah to make that type of swing because you're right. Bill Armstrong is willing to be aggressive. The ownership is willing to be overly aggressive. And we know they're not afraid to spend money.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Guy dropped 200K to get the locker room done in a month. So there's no issue with him spending money. And it's really a matter of Bill Armstrong and the crew there to try to find that. piece. But I've been honestly, I've been waiting for that big piece to happen there. Another big move for them because they're lurking. They're always lurking. I was firmly
Starting point is 00:31:34 convinced that if those Panthers players would have hit the market on July 1st, that Utah was going to be first of the trough, that they were going to be first of the trough to grab one. That's the one. And then we'd be looking at Eckblad and Sergachev as a top pair for Utah. Oh, oh, that would have been something. That would have been something. They wanted it. They wanted that
Starting point is 00:31:51 to happen. Yeah. That's That's in the what if category. Dude, enjoy the rest of your day in Vegas. Thanks as always for stopping by. You are the best. I always appreciate you coming on here on Fridays, pal. I love my Fridays with you, buddy. Take care.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I'll have more goofy proposals for you next week. And thanks for keeping the eye roll, eyeball rolls to a minimum. I appreciate it. Thanks, pal. I kept it in. But now I make sense. We've actually got a decent one there. All right, Dave Panyoder from the fourth period.
Starting point is 00:32:21 He's a DFO insider here. and the DFO Insider Edition, Wednesdays 3 o'clock Eastern Live, right here at our DFO YouTube channel with a Panyoda and Erfan Ghaf is must listen to and must watch. We can't say TV, digital offering, digital programming, there we go, digital programming. I just stumbled into that one. Anything there, tickle your chin there, bearded Zach? Bearded. Like it changed from yesterday. Yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of interesting about Dallas going and trying to find a way to get from the same place again like they did last year where it was like all of a sudden, okay, picked out a couple of guys out of San Jose, got the pieces that they wanted.
Starting point is 00:33:08 That possibility comes up here again. The Stamcoast trade proposal. I like that one. I like that one. See, that comes from the quote-unquote, informed position of someone who lives in that universe and will one day be a general manager in the NHL I am almost 100% on. So that's why.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And we just sort of go back and forth on text on things like this. And I'm like, yeah, you know what? I'll share this one with Dave and see what he thinks about it. Makes sense. No, I like that one. And that's obviously the piece they've been looking for. That was talked about, you know, before the Hughes stuff took off before the Dougie Hamilton stuff became public,
Starting point is 00:33:49 stamp goes. So, yeah, I mean, that one makes sense and then that's the easiest way as well. I mean, you guys are,
Starting point is 00:33:57 you guys already talked about this. I don't need to rehash it, but the, the one piece of salary retention, gone. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:04 that's wiped off the table effectively. So, yeah, I like that one. Retain half on Baron. Expiring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Okay, how about the Buffalo Sabres say last night Tage Thompson? Nothing like an empty net hat trick. Always, be like, how much should you celebrate an empty net hat trick?
Starting point is 00:34:21 But why not, man? You're the Buffalo Sabres, your Tage Thompson. Five points beat the orange. Yeah, I'm celebrating. Good on Buffalo, man. Just continues to be an awesome story. This continues to be great game after great game by the swords. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I helped out and produced DFO Rundown this morning. And Gregor showed up and was wearing his saber shirt. And it led to like a 15 minute or a 10 minute conversation between Rucker and Greg. and Greg's about jerseys and colors and everything. It was awesome. I know that has nothing to do with the game, but he wore it because of Tage Thompson. That's why he did that.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I believe it. Why not? Why not? He's a great story. A lot of great stories there. I love the fact that that market has popped again, but here's the thing. After all of that, after this stretch,
Starting point is 00:35:10 with 15 wins and 17 games, Wild Card 2. Nothing guaranteed. Yeah, I know, I know. nothing, nothing, nothing guaranteed. Like you just hope for Buffalo's sake that they end this drought and can actually pull this off and just get in the playoffs. But after all of that, WC2, again, it's not the points.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's the teams on the teams ahead of you. For everybody looking at the standing and saying, oh, look, it's close. We're only a couple here and a couple of, three point games and the teams you have to jump over. That's the, that's the killer. I got something for you here in real time. I'm just trying to get it up on screen, but Chris Jury just put out a message to the fans in New York. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I can get this up on screen in like 10 seconds, but yeah, I just wanted to make you aware of that, that I am actively working on that right now. Hang on. It was posted from the New York Ranger's official Twitter account, so it comes out there and comes from Chris Jury. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Okay, we want to take a moment to connect with our loyal and passionate fan base. We know you feel your disappointment, how the season is gone, first point, et cetera, et cetera. Frustrated, why nothing more than the liver on ice product, proud of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's what we deserve every day, knowing the organization is happy. I know from management coaches, players of the last few years have had some success in moments of church. Ultimately, it's not the end goal. We're going to relentlessly bringing Stanley Cup back to New York, blah, blah, la. With our position, the standings and injuries to keep players this season,
Starting point is 00:36:40 must be honest and realistic about our situation. We are not going to stand, Pat. A shift will give us the ability to be smart and opportunistic as we retool. the word. Retool the team. Nobody wants to say rebuild. All these guys, I want to say a word.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Just say rebuilds, Chris. This will not be a rebuild. Hang on, he says it. This will not be a rebuild. Here's the thing, folks. Every team is rebuilding.
Starting point is 00:37:03 That's why teams make trades and sign players and follow the waiver. Okay. This will be a retool. I'm so scared about words. This will be a retool built around our core players
Starting point is 00:37:13 and prospects. Who are they? We will target players that bring tenacity, speed, skill, and a winning pedigree with a focus on obtaining young players' draft picks and cap space to allow us flexibility moving forward. That's what every team wants. I get it. That may mean saying goodbye to some players that have brought us and our fans great moments over the years. These players represented the Rangers with pride and class and will always be part of our family.
Starting point is 00:37:40 As we start on this new strategic plan, we will continue to play hard with pride and passion for our fans. We appreciate your unwavering support for the Rangers more than we can describe and thank you for all that you do for our organization. You will begin to see some of our plans come to light in the coming weeks and months. P.S. Stop saying, fire me. No, I just added that myself.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Oh, wait, is that in the fine? Oh, my God. Okay, so that's essentially saying, Drury saying we're going to start to trade some players, but don't expect too much. We're going to trade some key players here. We just talked to Dave a second ago and talked about Vincent Trocheck. I don't think anybody would necessarily be surprised about that. Artemmy Panarin.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like I wonder, is this just a note chumbing the waters for a Panarin trade? Perhaps. But in the coming weeks is a big one. Essentially, we're going to get moving on. this. I don't have to think that the conversations have already started to be had. I don't think J.T. Miller is going anywhere. I don't think Igor Shishdurkin is going anywhere. But other than that, I would imagine the listing on everybody. Like we talked with Vince McCogliano from the athletic yesterday about. They're listening on everybody.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Outside of, I can't see the moving Miller. That was Drury's guy in the room. You know, the guy that he went out and got and made captain. That's his guy. And there's no chance in hell they're moving Shish Durkin. Everybody else willing to listen. And I wonder if that includes Adam Fox, too. And maybe that perhaps more from Adam Fox's point of view about the Olympic discussion. But more on that on another program here. But the Rangers indicating to their fan base that they are open for business.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Gentlemen and ladies, start your trade engines. because the Rangers are indicating to the marketplace that they're in the trade business right now. Thanks for flagging that. Yeah, sorry, I was trying to get it in real time. I know that that was a bit of a messy transition there, but it popped up on I was trying to get it onto screen for us and scan as fast as I could to get you the actual important information.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Side note on a less serious, but also what the hell are you doing side of things? Rangers should have learned from the first statement They should have learned from the first letter to the fans No need to do the letter to the fans Jury could have just said this on a mic I'm being And taking questions and appeared before assembly
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah Like more so my point is You put out the statement before You effectively said More or less a very similar Sent a very similar message to the fans No that was no that was more like We're rebuilding here
Starting point is 00:40:43 and then that lasted like five minutes. Right. And they went right back to being the Rangers. Okay. So then that's what I'm saying, though. Like how, why would Rangers fans see this and think that this is any different? I know the wording is different here, Jeff. But like, if I'm a Rangers fan, why am I seeing this and thinking that the first site of some big free agent,
Starting point is 00:41:05 Chris Drury, James Dolan, the Rangers brass aren't going to get all horny and be like, the rebuild is over. The retool is over. we're good again. I get it. But here's the other thing. I don't think that's just a message to the fans. That's a message to the players.
Starting point is 00:41:22 That's not just a message to fans. That's a message to players that, you know, don't get too comfortable here. Don't let the roots get too deep. Don't buy property. I think that's part of it too. When you put a letter like that. I wonder if that is the. So now we'll see.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. I asked Laz for a statement. He's on a plane. so I've had three dots going. Oh, all right. Yeah, because I asked him to call in. He said he's on a plane, but I've had the dots for like the last five minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:58 So I'll just at least share with you what he put out on Twitter because I'm sure as what I'll say. I genuinely don't know what to say about this. They're going to trade guys. There's your comment from Johnny Lazars. They're going to trade some guys. It is, look, first of all, it's,
Starting point is 00:42:14 um, there, uh, this is an, an organization that has tried. You know, this is a team that went out and, and picked up, you know, Kane and Teresenko and Roslovak. And like, they've, they've gone out and they've,
Starting point is 00:42:31 they've given this a shot. And it hasn't worked. And I think this is them saying, all right, we tried. Andrew Kopp. We tried to do this. It didn't work. We're going to,
Starting point is 00:42:49 change, we're going to change direction here. And the other thing, as much as I think that this was a letter to the team, I have a hard time believing, even though I sort of say that tongue in cheek, I have a hard time believing that they wouldn't have told at least the leadership team and maybe even the full team themselves that this was coming out. Because at the end of the day, players don't want to be surprised by something like that. Yeah. Players don't want to be.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Is it still a message to the team? Yeah, but I have a hard time believing that that message wasn't delivered before all of this went out. This is essentially, we tried, it hasn't worked. We understand where we're at. We don't think it's going to get better with this group, so we need the change direction. So do you think that this now accelerates stuff this season? I'm not talking about general long-term plan. Like, they're looking, get ahead of it before Olympics.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Effective immediately. They know how sour the fan base is and they know their position in the standings. And they know that Igor Shishduriken is still hurts. And Ego Shishduriken, like life without Shishduriken sucks. It just sucks. Like the New York Rangers have like one of the biggest gifts in the NHL to have that goaltender. And now that he's hurt, this is what life looks like without him. and it's pretty ugly.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And this is coming off a couple of pretty ugly losses. Like what the Ottawa senators did to them two nights ago to say nothing of the 10 spot that got put up on them on the week. Like, something has to happen here. And I think this is one of those, be patient, we're working on it. And you guys see some results soon. Do you want to hear the actual statement from Laz? He sent me a message here to read on the air if we want to.
Starting point is 00:44:49 on it. I've prepared a statement. I thought he was going to give me like a little, a little blurb. You get some of you like a thought out response. So this is from Johnny Lazarus, Daily Face Off, daily face off, Morning Cup of Hockey. I am genuinely shocked, Tri-State.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I am genuinely shocked about, junior hockey guy. Yeah. I am genuinely shocked about the letter, not the messaging in the letter. In 2018, when the original letter was released, Rangers fans had fallen in love with that core, and while they didn't get it done, they had always given us some hope. This core, or the core that's left, while they've achieved
Starting point is 00:45:27 some great things like two Eastern Conference Finals runs, I don't think the feeling is the same. They've already traded away so many pieces and made changes to this team. It feels like this letter is almost too late and unnecessary, in my opinion. But I guess it's good to know that changes are going to be made. Official statement from Johnny Lazarus. I'm Johnny Lazarus I'm signed it off like Walter Cronkite CBS News I'm Johnny Lazarus
Starting point is 00:45:57 Good night Johnny Lazarus Daily Faceoff New York Reporting live from high in the sky Johnny Lazarus Daily fake I don't know
Starting point is 00:46:16 Like right now It's hot in New York So I can understand There's an element of Get the the torches And the pitchforks away I think that's part of it And the other part is
Starting point is 00:46:28 speaking to your fans. I thought it was interesting, Brian Burke yesterday, talking about as a manager, you don't want to talk to your fans too often. The voice of your team should be someone else and that if you're hearing from the manager, this is my only extrapolate. If you're hearing from the manager too much,
Starting point is 00:46:45 then the team's in trouble. You know, they should hear from you a couple of times a year and that's it. So I do understand jury's reluctance to jump out in front of microphones as much as some fans may want him. Like, look, how long did it take Tom Fitzgerald to jump out in front of microphones and cameras?
Starting point is 00:47:04 But he did. It gets to a place we have to do it. Just to have some kind of communication with your fans. Even just to publicly acknowledge that you hear them, I think is an important thing. Right? Like, these are your customers. Acknowledge that you're listening to them.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And for that, I think that Drury made the smart move here. for sending this out. Now, I am with you in the sense that I still do think, much like Tom Fitzgerald did earlier this week, you should probably do it in front of assembled media as well. Just for follow-up questions. I'm sure, you know, our buddies, you know, Peter Baugh and Vince McCogliano and Molly Walker would all want to have a chance
Starting point is 00:47:49 to talk to Chris Jury publicly. But good first step. We'll see how the Rangers. follow it up. I agree. I mean, I'm shitting on it, but I do agree that this is the right thing. You know what wasn't mentioned, though, was what James Dolan talked about. Let me grab this here.
Starting point is 00:48:14 What James Dolan talked about on New York radio. No talk about culture change here. Oh, yeah. I have that clip. I'm just trying to get that. Yeah, I know. It is kind of interesting that these come so close together as well, the Dolan media clip.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I know that's obviously two very different things, but just to come in succession like that, I thought was kind of interesting. And I mean, just aside from what you're talking about with the actual messaging, I do agree that it was good for him to get out and say this publicly and address this. I just don't like the medium that I used to do it,
Starting point is 00:49:01 especially given the history that came with the last one and how quickly they tried to get over that. And the fact that it's like, oh, well, the Rangers release another statement. I don't think they've had the best track record of releasing statements. I'm not saying they're like PR nightmares. I just mean in general. I haven't really looked at a Rangers statement and being like, well, that one was awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:26 this up with the media avail and call it a day and let the manager get to work? Yep. Yep. All right, so that's the latest in the Rangers. We will see what transpires here. There's a lot of names here. Just like the Vancouver Canucks.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I know this season hasn't gone well, but there's a lot of really good players on that team. There's a lot of really good players on the New York Rangers. Like, this could make for a more interesting trade deadline. Specifically, like, here's what I wonder about. with trade deadline this year. Given what free agency is going to look like, we always talk about, oh, it's not trade deadline,
Starting point is 00:50:06 it's tweak deadlines. Just a couple of depth defensemen, third or fourth line guys, it's tweaked deadline, it's not trade deadline, although last year Rantan went, I wonder if this year, considering how free agency is not going to be the
Starting point is 00:50:20 Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel, Bonanza that a lot of us expected, Kyle Connor, Martin H.S., like keep going all the way down the list. as teams realize if they want to get better fast, the only way to do is trade. Only way to do it is trade.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And now all of a sudden, the Rangers have entered the chat. And they're going to be pinning up players publicly. Yeah. And bodies will be going out the door. Weird year, though. Oh, yeah, totally weird year. And it all kicked off with, like,
Starting point is 00:50:49 all these players we thought were going to be available on July 1st, just getting picked off like characters in an Agatha Christie novel. Right? Bam, bam, bam, capoe. Nope. McDavid, nope. Camp it. No.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Now we're all waiting on Alex Tuck. And what happens with Alex Tuck? Does he get his $10 million? Or does he go to market? Get his $10 million there. But like that's it. And now all of a sudden, his team is really good. They're in a playoffs.
Starting point is 00:51:18 All of a sudden, no, all of a sudden. Like, what the hell? Yarmos like, all right, team's good now. What are we doing here? Yeah. What do you want to do, Alex? Okay. So that was a little.
Starting point is 00:51:30 nice little drop in the middle of the program here today. Okay, a couple things here before we get going. And we should probably because we're getting heavy on time. We'll get to questions and comments and texts and emails on Monday. But let's get to Hungry for Hockey History here from our friends at Uber Eats. Hungry for Hockey History is a presentation of Uber Eats. Uber Eats is enabling fans to maximize their fandom all season long with exclusive game day deals on the app. From game day eats to paper plates and napkins if you're hosting to all the ingredients you need to make your favorite game
Starting point is 00:52:00 day dip. Before, during, and after the game, Uber Eats is assisting every fan's hockey experience all season long. And on a personal note, Zach, I like the color green, so I like the bags. Anyway, what do we got today? You don't say you like the color green. The whole show that we have is... It's all background and green. It relaxes your eyes, Zach. It's all strategic. I assure you. I assure you. All right. January 16th, 1990, Glenn Healy. stands on his head. Glenn Healy makes 51 saves for his second NHL shutout in the New York Islanders.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Three-nothing victory against the Vancouver Canucks. It became the second highest number of saves in a shutout by an NHL goaltender at that point in time, trailing only a 52 save shutout by Jacques Plont of the Montreal Canadiens against the Blackhawks in 1955? Can I give you a history test? Oh, uh-oh. Go for it. I don't know if I'll do well. It was from your show, this show, the show you produce, the show that you, like, obsessed with over eclipse once the show goes off the air. And you know, like, every single morsel and corner and pixel of this show. Yes, it's true, which is going to make me so much worse. I put it wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Where did the phrase stands on his head come from? I thought you put that in deliberately because we referenced it this week. Oh, no, but I did remember when I was. writing it that that was something we had talked about um it was because uh when goalies weren't allowed to when goalies was allowed to go down in the butterfly right and they weren't allowed to go down but i don't remember exactly why frank calder frank calder was the president called the trophy named after him frank calder was a president of the n hl no you're going to say it and i'm going to say oh yeah i know he said it and i'm going to say oh yeah i know he said
Starting point is 00:53:58 He finally, I think Clint Benedict was one that pushed it the most. In the Pacific Coast League, they're allowed to do it. Let them stand on their heads for all I care. They can go down. They can do whatever they want. For all I care, they can stand on their heads. And that was 1917 or 1918. And that saying just took a little prodding.
Starting point is 00:54:15 He's not there. I'm so proud as that. A couple of things on Glenn Healy. There was always the thought that he was the last to use the helmet and cage. I don't know what that's true. I think it might have been Sam St. Laurent with Detroit, but I will defer to the historians in the audience on that one. I worked with him.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Oh, by the way, one of the stories that he always likes telling when we worked together at Hockey Night in 1993, I said I was going to mention this, in the Pittsburgh, New York Islanders series, huge upset, right? The Penguins are going for their third Stanley Cup in a row, and they run into the Islanders. And before the last game, Al Arbor, Glenn said,
Starting point is 00:54:57 went to everybody in the Islanders. dressing room because there was always like we got you, Mario will kill you. Mario will win this series and win this game individually. Dave Volick ended up scoring the overtime winner for the Islanders, but he said Arbor went around the room and this is such a great sort of mental, strategic idea to every single player. He went like player to player to player and asked one question. He said, can you beat Mario Lemieux in one shift? Yes, I can. Can you beat Mario Lemieux in one shift. Yes, I can.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And by the time they finished the whole loop, everybody in that room was convinced they could beat Mario Lemieux every single shift. It was just a mental thing, but what a great exercise by Al Arbor. You know, you've been in these rooms. Can you beat Mario in one shift? Yes, I can't.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Can you beat Mario in one shift? Yes, I can. Next thing you know, Allenders have beaten the Pittsburgh Penguins, and Scotty Bowman ends up the head coach of the Detroit Red Wings. The other thing that I remember from working with heels, I remember asking him once,
Starting point is 00:55:55 when I used to host hockey night in Canada radio because he always did between the benches. And I said, what was the saltiest series you ever heard? Like the worst. Well, you had to keep your finger on the mute button. And he said, without a doubt, not even close. He said, Chicago, Philadelphia, 2010. He said there were, I think it was four players going through divorces at the time.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And everybody was relentless. He said a couple of times We almost got caught with some of it getting to air But he goes, It was awful What these two teams were saying to each other Anyhow, Glenn Healy And from Pickering slash Ajax
Starting point is 00:56:46 Not too far from here One of my kids plays APR And so whenever we go to Don Beer Arena We see pictures of Glenn Healy And his framed jersey at Don Beer Arena. There you go. Glenn Healy.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Now works with the president of the alumni association. Yeah, Don beer arena. Yeah. Great old barn. Great old barn. Accent on hold. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:57:45 please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2-600 to speak to an advisor free of charge Zach. Keep making us laugh today or what? Let's hope. You brought up your boys. They went to, or I think they go to the same high school that I went to, and you'll have to ask them because when I went there, by the time I was graduating, they wouldn't let us eat lunch inside in the halls anymore,
Starting point is 00:58:14 and they had to put up signs because they couldn't get kids to stop snugging in the hall. Maclin Celebrini, Jimmy Snuggard, Taylor Hall. The school that he's referring to is Bill Crothers. I didn't know if I was, I didn't want to just throw it after your kids. I didn't want to throw that. Anthony Sorrelli went there. There's a lot of like, a number of any. Morgan Frost.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Oh yeah, that's right. Morgan Frost. Dermott. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unionville, Ontario. Joseph Blanbezi. Oh, did Joe Blandesee go there too? Yeah, yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Man, that guy could shoot a puck. That's good. Celebrini, Snuggarrood and Taylor Hall. By the way, do you see that pass that Celebrini made last night on the graph goal? Everything this guy does
Starting point is 00:59:02 is outrageous. By the way, just a quick promo cross what we do, and this isn't necessarily exactly what you're bringing up, but just wanted to mention this because Rupp brought it up this morning.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah. They're talking about the heart candidacy for Macklin Sellebrini. Did you know that the San Jose Sharks don't win unless Celibini has one point. They cannot win a game in which he does not get a point.
Starting point is 00:59:32 To me, it's like right now it's like stop the fight. Like bless Nathan McKinnon. Bless Connor McDavid, whose 20-game point streak came to a conclusion yesterday. The hand of the island is won nothing. Bless them. They're incredible hockey players. The definition of the heart trophy is most valuable to his team.
Starting point is 00:59:49 It's not the best player. It's most valuable. He is the definition. of the heart trophy with the San Jose Sharks. What's perhaps most impressive about the pass is how he stayed on his feet, taking all that contact, and then still had the presence of mind
Starting point is 01:00:05 to make that pass and find who is it, Colin Graf, in front of the net to score the goal? Holy smokes, man. Good connection those guys have there as well. What do you do? Graph and Celebrini. What do you do?
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, what do you do? But let's hope that he can get us. on the board here tonight. Kids can't snuggy in the hall, Jeff. Kids can't snuggie in the hall. We're not trying to crack the atom here. We're just trying to put some extra nickels in Philly's jeans here, make the weekend go a little smoother.
Starting point is 01:00:38 What was the numbers on that one, by the way? Five bucks is going to get you. Five bucks gets you 207.75. 207.75. Yeah. I just wanted to play a little clip from something we have coming out later today, if that's all right. before we wrap up.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Let's do it. So today on the Daily Face Off channel, premiering, we'll do that again. We premiered the Michael Hage interview earlier, so everyone can jump in the chat and watch it live in real time together. But later today at 6.30 p.m. Eastern Time, maybe this will be something that Rangers fans, especially after today's announcement, will want to see. Our interview with Malcolm Spence will be dropping here on this channel, 6.30 p.m. Eastern Time. So let's take a look at James.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Jeff and Malcolm Spence inside the Michigan Wolverines locker room. Let's do it. What has a transition been like? And I think a lot of people will be curious, like the main differences between hockey in the Ontario League and hockey here at Michigan. I think there's a bunch of things that get grouped in. I think the games are really fast here.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And I think sometimes in, I don't think your body can play to the level that you play in college in the OHL, because of the fact of there's so many games. And I think in the playoffs and the OHA, it's more similar to what is played in college just because of the shortened schedule in college. But I think the biggest difference is just the recovery time. You know, there's a handful of times that I played games on a Wednesday in Owen Sound
Starting point is 01:02:13 and then played again on a Friday in London or Sunday on Sagan all, just a bunch of games in a week in a short period of time. I think what's nice about college is you have the whole week to prep for the team you're going to play because you're going to play them twice on the weekend and then you're also going to have the chance to recover and win and lift in the gym. So I'd say that's probably the biggest difference. You know, one of the things that stood out from the Brandon Nerato interview, the coach of the Michigan Wolverines, was he talked about the energy level that Spence Springs.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It's true. I saw that in Erie going to a game last year against the start. Darnia and just, you know, seeing, seeing the kids and how Spence was around them. This is the team that had Matthew Schaefer on it, too. And just like the energy level when this guy is around is like through the roof. I thought that was one of the more interesting points that Norado made in the piece that came out. Earlier this week, our conversation with the Michigan head coach, I think a lot of people, and rightfully so, were surprised that Malcolm Spence didn't go in the first round last year the draft.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I didn't think that it was going to be like, you know, top 10 or anything, but I thought, like, for sure, this guy's a first round talent. And when I saw that he went in the second round, I'm like, well, Rangers stole one. Rangers got first round value in the second round. Bravo Rangers. So look forward to that one. By the way, who did the light?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Did you do the lighting on that one, on these pieces? Is this your lighting? Team effort. Team effort on that. But the color grading and everything was done by our guy, Colin. He sent everything over. Colin's excellent, yeah. Finalized everything.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah. The lighting on the. The lighting on this. the shoot is just like a little inside baseball here but man the lighting is really good how you guys did a great job i mean the vision of the lighting is typically or was mostly in that case all the the eye that this guy has good good idea yeah shine the boss okay really the the real genius here jeff is amel delitch our our uh our our boss who came along on the trip yeah good idea i'm just i'm just telling you what happened jeff what's the uh what i saw the homer simpson line
Starting point is 01:04:20 about the three magic words that'll get you through your career. Good idea, boss. Wherever you can say good idea, boss. Doing yourself a world of good, son. You're doing yourself a world of good. Going into business for yourself. That's good to see. You've learned a thing or two on the program here over the last year or so.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Looks great. You guys did a great job. And so check that one out coming out a little bit later on this evening right here on our daily day. 6.30 Eastern. Channel. 630 Eastern. There you go. That's the information as Zach.
Starting point is 01:04:50 presents, as we say, to be Pacific in the Atlantic. Thanks for joining me here today. A lot of interesting stuff and the Rangers news dropping in our lap. So essentially, as soon as we're done talking to DFO insider, Dave Pandyota, the Rangers announced that they are open for business. So we'll follow that story closely on all of our Daily Faceoff properties and channels and certainly our website at DailyFaceoff.com. Thanks to Dave for stopping by the show today as he does each and
Starting point is 01:05:20 every Friday. That was a fun week. The chat was hot. Thanks to everybody who participated. Everybody who listened, everybody who watched, everybody who subscribed, whether you're a new subscriber or even with us for a number of years. Thank you for your attention. You could choose a lot of different things. A lot of podcasts, right? A lot of shows, a lot of websites. The fact that you choose us here is very flattering and we don't take it for granted for a moment. Enjoy the hockey tonight. Enjoy it on the weekend. The sheet returns Monday, 1 o'clock Eastern, conduct yourselves according. I'm 15 hours last night every day this month
Starting point is 01:05:58 I can't get out my head because you can call it all right

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