The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Shady Business ft. Anthony Cirelli & Jay Rosehill

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Jeff Marek is joined by Anthony Cirelli of the Tampa Bay Lightning and Jay Rosehill of Leafs Morning Take. Discussing the Lightning's recent success, winning the 4 Nations Face-Off, playing for Jon Cooper, Maple Leafs injuries, Mitch Marner's contract situation, how Toronto approaches the deadline, and much more.Shout out to our sponsors!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼 Tim Hortons: https://www.timhortons.ca/rollupReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Look forward to talking to Anthony Cirelli. Also, Jay Rosehill, after the Leafs win a thriller in OT. Mitch Marner, he of the behind the back kick pass to John Tavarez, he of the breakaway, ending it in overtime. Jay Rosehill from Leafs Morning Take will be aboard. We'll talk about the astronomy beliefs. We'll talk about plenty of things here.

And Zach Phillips, one of the things that I wanted to start talking about today is something that nobody has really figured out how to do. And I don't know how to do it either. Like I'm not presenting myself as if I've come down from this mountain with these tablets. I'm not like that. You know what no one's... Tie your head and rub your belly at the same time? Hang on. Okay. I can now. That's all right. I can kind of do that one.

You know what no one's cracked the code on yet? No one's really figured out how to do. Historians can quibble with me here and find examples I'm sure, but no one's really cracked the code on what do you do when you start a rebuild with a superstar player, with a franchise cornerstone, as opposed to having your franchise player come in halfway through or towards the end of a rebuild. So there already are players there for that player to play with. You know what I'm saying here? Like there's kind of a... And what I'm getting at here is the Chicago Blackhawks. And this might be a sort of mild defense of the general manager, although I think we all do

wonder whether Kyle Davidson's in trouble in Chicago here, because it is kind of a mess. And we're going to get to Seth Jones in a couple of seconds here. But I'll tell you what there is right now. There's kind of a, and this is one for the older crowd here, young Phillips, you can just settle down and pay attention, history class time. There's kind of like a Mario Lemieux Pittsburgh Penguins vibe about this. Like when Lemieux joined the Penguins after he was drafted in 84, they were awful and Mario had nobody to play with.

Now he made a lot of players millions and millions of dollars along the way but he had no one like they were starting out with Mario and a bunch of Jags you know what a Jag is in hockey you know what a Jag just a guy I'm playing with some Jags just a guy with all due respect to the listen if you're a Jag in the NHL you're an awesome player let's just establish that now but comparatively like a Jag're a Jag in the NHL, you're an awesome player. Let's just establish that now, but comparatively, like a Jag is a Jag. You're still in the NHL. Just a guy, you're still in the NHL, but Jag's a Jag.

Yeah. And I look at Connor Badaard, and you look at the frustration, and we've all seen that thousand yard stare that he had in the penalty box last night, where a young Connor Badaard is sitting there having these like existential moments in the penalty box, you know, thinking to himself, you know thinking to himself

you know how did I get here at this place and this type of futility with the Chicago Blackhawks again and then and then throwing salt on the open wound is Seth Jones and I want to get there in a couple of moments But let's sort of set the table before we get by the way Do you have any comment on that one? Like the idea of you're starting out your rebuild with the franchise player right there without other players. You could try to piecemeal it together

and go and grab guys from all over the place, which is what Kyle Davidson has tried to do here for Chicago, but at the end of it, I guess you can't choose your timing, but they're starting it out with Connor Bedard. And it's really tough to do that. Yeah, it is. And I was trying to think like while you're talking about that, the roadmap that it takes, because I have an example of something that ended up working out

really well. Watch how I do this and how I get here. Ready? When Austin Matthews joined the Maple Leafs the first year They made the playoffs and they made the playoffs every year since but I kind of look at that one and it's like players with their luck Players with their but cuz Riley exactly. He layers were there. Yeah players were there. Yeah, it's it's it's it's like They were first round draft picks, but yeah, they were there when Edmonton Edmonton started their rebuild long before Connor McDavid arrived, there were players there already.

They tried, yeah. Right? And then there was a number of different false starts for the Oilers and we all used to joke about that sign in the Edmonton Oilers dressing room, earned not given. And then we all went over to Cap Friendly and looked what was earned and what was given, but I digress. Let's set the table for the show

here today. And don't forget Anthony Srelle coming up in a couple of moments. Daily Outlines presented by our friends and partners at FanDuel North America's number one sportsbook app provider. And coming up on the program today we've got a couple of special guests and a number of, you know, a number of intriguing topics. And I swear, I know I say this every show, Zach, we're going to get to all of them. And the free fall continues. Yeah, I know. Who's kidding who, right? The free fall continues around the Chicago Blackhawks, fueled yesterday by, and I guess logs thrown on the fire by Seth Jones, a defenseman who's now gone from saying essentially, I want outs, or I'd look good

back with the blue jackets now just to saying yeah we're the same as we were on game one. Shady business, spot quiz, who said it? Brady Kachuk. And whether it's right or wrong, we'll talk about why it's great for the NHL and great for the Kachuk brand. And I'm gonna loosely try to draw lines between the Kachuks and the former lead singer, the Sex Pistols. See if I can do it.

Yeah, I know, watch. So we'll see, some of the analogies I do have are strained. We'll see where this one goes. Anthony Cerelli of the Tampa Bay Lightning and Team Canada will stop by here in about 10 minutes time. Look forward to that conversation. Jay Rossell from Leafs Morning Take will tell us why Mitch Marner is perfect.

And I swear because Zach is going to, I know you'd like that one. Zach is going to make sure, like he has like an elephant tamer's whip that he's gonna use with me today to make sure that like he has a, like he has like an elephant tamers whip that he's gonna use with me today to make sure that I get to things like the emails because we want to get this as a daily feature here on the program but I tend to be a little bit verbose and it's sort of we just flat out run out of time but we will get to some of your emails today because a lot of them have been

really thoughtful. In the meantime before we get to Anthony Cirelli here who's aboard in about eight or nine minutes time, you want to play, I think probably everyone's had a listen to this already, but nonetheless, just so we have some context, just so we're all working from the same playing field here, let's hear Seth Jones. Last night, frustrated, hands in the air, wants out, it's been too long, I just want to go here's Seth Jones last night. I Don't I don't know, you know, we I think we're the exact same team right now is where it came one I think it's pretty pretty evident out there. We haven't made any strides to

Be a better more simple hockey, you know, and it shows, you know, we don't get a lot of wins because of that It's kind of an opportunity to gauge that since you started here and now 60 games and almost you're back here again Well, this is in almost four years of you know bottom of the league. So it's not not just this year for me at least Is it gonna be like this after every Hawks loss or is it gonna be like this after every Hawks loss? Or is it going to be like this after every Hawks game? Because first of all, if you're covering the Chicago Blackhawks beat, who are you going to automatically

after every single game for comments? Yeah. Seth Rollins. I know. You feel bad because it's like, you're glad that they say something. You know, like how long have we talked about hockey players don't say anything. They don't give us anything.

And then they say something. And, you know, he probably was sitting there this morning. He spoke his mind. Everything he said is true. Everything he said is completely 100 percent fair and real. But do you think he woke up this morning and was like, oh, no I don't like I don't I think that you know, I don't I think that that was more of Seth Jones That was like that is like four years of frustration coming out I actually thought yeah quite reserved to be honest with it. We've seen players blast off before

I thought he was really calm about all of it and there was almost a sort of little bit of a little bit of a chuckle in his voice when he sort of talked like guys it's been like the last four years since i've been here like this isn't just about this season like look they've tried to surround kind of a dard with um with veteran players players that'll that'll uh change the fortunes of this team that would help the team climb the ladder You know, it's like you're ticking off moments. You're ticking off days of his entry-level deal You know, this wasn't like, you know the Blackhawks, you know with that team The one that the Stanley Cups where Kane and Taves joined but they joined after they were bad for a long time And it picked up players and all of a sudden here come the two franchise cornerstones and off we go 2010

Everyone's singing here come the Hawks Thisstones and off we go 2010 and everyone's singing Here Come the Hawks. This is a lot different and there's a frustration I think with everybody. You know, they've gone through the coach. Connor Bedard's frustration is evident. There was a DNT situation with Paul Bissonnettes and how that played itself out very, very publicly.

And at the end of it, like you kind of sometimes have to put on your decoder rings act and figure out, okay, what exactly here, what exactly is he trying to tell us? And I think what he's trying to say and maybe not so subtle terms is the problem here is composition. It's been like this for a long time. And again, that's why I go back to my point

off the top of the show here. As much as it is right now a disaster in Chicago, like things are awful. And we do wonder about Kyle Davidson, does there need to be sort of more veteran voices around him here? No one's cracked the code. No one's cracked the code on how do you do it

when you start with the franchise player? As opposed to you're halfway through your rebuild and then the franchise player emerges. That's the sort of main point that I wanted to get across here coming off of the Seth Jones comments. I get it. Is he being a little bit self-serving? Yeah, because he wants out. You know, he wants to go somewhere else

He's saying like listen, I can't just continue to scotch my career like this by the time this team is good I'm gonna be how old where am I gonna be in my career? I have good years ahead of me Let's just do and I do wonder too because there are teams that have talked to Chicago about Seth Jones I just don't know how you're gonna get something something for him of any substance whatsoever, considering the nature of that contract. Yeah, that's fair enough. I mean, I think you disagree with this. I feel like because we're looking at San Jose and everything sunshine and rainbows there in San Jose, they're behind only think that you're behind. Watch, watch. They're a year behind. I personally think that they're... They're a year behind.

Watch. Watch. I wonder if it's a little different. I'll throw one thing out there and the one thing that makes me feel like it could actually just be a little bit different. Not like they're going to be a competitor next season, but they went and got Asker off. You're going to build with that. You've got a promising piece back there.

You've got Celebrini. You've got a couple of other players that are there with them, like Will Smith and stuff like that. Still green bananas though. Yeah. There's still green bananas. That's the problem. Again, these are all still young players learning their way through the NHL.

Like man, NHL is so hard. I know it's the most obvious statement in the world. It's so hard. I can only imagine what it's like for a young player or young players. And that's why I say like San Jose, like as far as frustration level, like I wonder how many Herb Brooks moments, you know, Worsowskis had after games, right? We're like, how could you not?

Like the first, no one likes losing. It sucks, right? And it just gets compounded and compounded and compounded. Right now it's still like celebrini, celebrini mania in San Jose. Give me another year. The only thing is it feels like San Jose has been fun. And I didn't feel like Chicago was fun last year.

Sure. Hang on. Hang on. We're like, but we were, no man, but Dard was fun to saylebrini's fun this year. It was fun watching Badard last year. This is awesome and a little bit of a race between him and Faber for the Calder, but we're all in love with Badard and this is awesome and it's going to be another step. Again, Rebuilds are bunny hops. They're not straight lines. They are.

They're complete bunny hops. That's why I don't know that this one, I don't know, it feels like really bad in Chicago right now and it's been a while. And I just wonder if, again, I just wonder about Cal Davidson here, through all of it, because they've made the coaching change, but Dart is frustrated, Jones is being very public about like something has to give. Something has to give. How do you think Luke Richardson felt after he saw those comments? I mean, obviously we're just speaking for him.

We don't actually know, but like I don't think Seth Jones say that. I don't think Richard, I don't think, first of all, I don't think Luke Richardson is a petty person, but I'm sure there's part of him that's like, that's right, the problem wasn't coaching. Of course. Yeah, that's what I mean, yeah.

Again, whenever you see situations like this, you always say, is the problem coaching or composition? And somewhere Luke Richardson's probably saying, yeah, I see the problem here, he's identifying it, and he's saying the problem here is composition. Now the fact that he's the guy that wants out, and it's not anybody else on the team that's barking about this,

you can pretty sure that you catch them in candid moments away from microphones and cameras are probably saying the exact same thing. Still bad. Anyhow. How do you go past this though? Last thing on it I want to ask you. How do you go past this? Like is this free agency?

Are you having to make moves in your trade deadlines that are bringing in players that can help join you soon? Like, how is the quickest way? What is the quickest way? Quickest way is free agency. And this is a huge free agent class. And the salary cap is going up. And you can make the argument that, and again, it's Chicago.

So you can use all of your cap space as a resource. Right? Like, if there's a team that can buy its way out of this one, it's Chicago. It's still the destination where players want to go. Chicago is an incredible city. And you know, you say to, I don't know, take your pick a potential free agent, whether it's Rantanen or Schmarner, excuse me. I know you get a giggle out of that one. You can say like, look, you want to spend the next 10 years playing or next seven years playing with Connor Bedard? Yeah.

I mean, really, I mean, this is one of those you can try to buy yourself out of it situations. Again, there's a lot of the one thing you can say about Chicago, same as San Jose, they've put together incredible pipeline pipelines for players. But you know what coaches say about that? I don't care about prospects. I want players. And breaking players into the NHL is hard. And breaking players into the NHL is, again,

like all development is a bunny hop here. And you're seeing it play itself out with the Chicago Blackhawks. Do we have time for Kichuck? Or are we gonna get to Anthony? Let's do Kichuk quickly here. Okay actually, you know what before... We're just getting him set up. Okay so as we get Anthony Cerelli of Tampa Bay Lightning set up here in a couple of seconds. Brady Kichuk, and I'll ask Cerelli about the Kichuk's public enemies number one. This is Brady Kichuk on the Spit and Chicklets podcast commenting on Quinn Hughes. We have this

one all set to go? Zachary, okay this is Brady Kachuk. Have a listen to this. Quinn, kind of like when he was figuring it out when people like Quinn might come, Quinn might not come. And I think yeah, he I think he was all about coming. But I just don't think he got cleared by Vancouver to play so a little shady business to begin with there we all know who they were cheering for I Just love it Turn this into a soap opera. I don't care whether it's right or wrong even just having Brady Kachak whisper shady business and we know who Vancouver is cheering for is gold.

And here's what I'll ask you to do. Look up the name Johnny Lydon. Johnny Lydon was the lead singer of a very influential punk band called the Sex Pistols in the 70s. And one of Johnny Lyon's great quotes was when he was talking about the success of the band, he said, you need to do two things. You need to establish the name and cultivate hatred. And they were one of the most successful punk bands and influential bands of all time.

Is there a better example of establish the name and cultivate hatred better than the Kachucks in the NHL? And it's all good for everybody. Like this tour that Matthew and Brady are on, and by the way, Brady's out tonight for the Ottawa Senators against Winnipeg. This tour that they're on is nothing but gold for the NHL. is nothing but gold for the NHL. Because you don't, like, it's almost, you don't have to be liked by anybody other than people in your home market. And in this case, because it's talking about USA and Canada

in your home country. I absolutely adore what Brady and Matthew are doing right now. I love what they did at the tournament. I know they're miserable to play against, as I'm sure our next guest is gonna explain. But I just love every, even just whispering whispering shady business and we all know who Vancouver is cheering for under the umbrella of talking about Quinn Hughes not being available for service

for USA at the four nations. Come on. I know. He's obviously joking here too, right? But it's like, it's fun. Why can't we do this? Why can't we have this? Yeah, let's build this up. Let's have fun with this. Yeah, it's fantastic. I love it. I love it. Do we have our guest lined up? Yes, we do. Okay, he's all set to go. He is a champion at the junior hockey level,

at the NHL level, and at the international level now as well. He is Anthony Cirelli of the Tampa Bay Lightning and he joins me now. Anthony, thanks so much for stopping by. A belated congratulations for the Four Nations Faceoff Championship. Yeah, thank you very much and yeah, no problem. Thanks for having me. The pleasure is all mine. First of all, I mean, there's so much from that tournament. Like I was one of them. Ryan Getsloff mentioned this on Leafs Morning Take last week. Like we didn't know what this tournament was gonna all be about.

How hard were the players gonna go? What was it gonna look like? How was it gonna be played? What type of intensity was this gonna be? Like when you first started hearing about this and then your name started popping up and you got named to the team like did you have any of these questions or did you know like from the get-go in this tournament this was going to be game seven four times? Yeah I think just the vibe of it was was going that way I mean we had a lot of meetings and stuff

kind of before we even got there and you know we wanted to win and we wanted to go there and we wanted to be the best team. And then I think right when that first crowd was electric, going out there for warmups, remember, and the whole building was filled and it was packed with fans standing up. So I think right there in that moment, we knew like this game on now and then we're going all out. Give us some personal context for this because you've, listen, you scored the Memorial Cup goal, the last goal ever at the Coliseum in Quebec. You've been part of, uh, two Stanley Cup champion teams with Tampa as well. And now this like, give us a sense of like where you would place this on the sort of

ladder of success for you. There's Memorial Cup, there's Stanley Cup, and there's Four Nations, which really kind of took a life, took on a life of its own and jumped off the hockey pages into the general sports pages. Where would you put this one? I think it's right up there with, I mean, probably winning the Cup. I mean, it's such an honor to represent your country

and wear that Canadian flag on your jersey. And I just think those games, those were part of the hardest games ever been a part of. Why is physicality wise, emotional wise, it was up there. I mean, everyone wants to win it's you know, best on best and just the way guy play man's sacrifice my body and you know, the passion to play defense and check and do the little things right. I mean, those were the, you know, like I said, the fastest based games, you know, arguably faster and, you know, physical than playing the Seneca final. Honestly, those were those were pretty intense games. Is it kind of sad? I've always sort of imagined like a player like yourself who gets to play in that, kind of looks at this tournament and says, okay, now I get a chance to judge myself

amongst the best in the NHL. And you're out there in the deep end and you're either gonna sink or you're gonna swim. Like, what does that do for you? Like now you've been through a tournament like this and you say to yourself, okay, like listen, I can be successful at the NHL level, but like, here we are best on best and I'm hanging with all the top dogs.

Like what goes through your mind here? Yeah, I know it was, uh, it was surreal at some points just being out there and, and, you know, the guys on our team, guys are playing against, I mean, obviously play against them every single night, but, uh, it's all together and just, like I said, just how hard the games were. And, um, I think it's just a confidence boost to be able to go there and you know try and play my role obviously I know I'm not there to score a bunch of goals and stuff it's more you know being on the DQ side, being physical the little things so you know I think just going through that experience and playing those games I think it's helped me you know when they come back here and they'll get back to regular games and you know, a little bit of confidence and a little bit better offensively.

So, but yeah, that experience I think helped greatly. I wanna ask you about Tampa in a couple of seconds, but a couple more about Team Canada because this is a team in a tournament that captured everybody's imagination. Okay, unfiltered, uncensored. What went through your mind when you saw Brandon Hegel throw down with Matthew Kachak Saturday night, Montreal, all eyes on that game? It was unbelievable. I mean, you know, Hags isn't afraid of anyone out there. And you see that in Tampa and then obviously on the biggest stage of them all. And, and he to him I mean he's all offense he throws hard and you know couldn't be

happy with him he got our guys going got the bench going got the crowd going it was I mean I didn't know that was happening till I mean if you look at me I I'm ready to play and then I put my clothes on and I look over and Higgs got his gloves off big flaw to do that obviously the fight, the fight, um, you know, for him to go in there and throw punches and then get the take down was awesome. And then obviously the other guys as well, you know, Bennett and Peranko doing the same thing right after. I mean, it was an electric, most electric start I've ever had to hockey.

And, uh, it certainly was wild. Um, so let me ask you about the final play, because this one is gonna be shown over and over. Like we all have the Golden Goal from 2010, I think burned into all of our minds. Like we're taking that one, we're taking that one to the crematorium, all of us. But let me ask you about that final sequence,

McCarr with the hard rim, and Marner picks it up off the boards, and the pass to McDavid, no dusting, and over the glove of Connor Hellebuck. At what point did you say to yourself, I can see this going in? Because I think the elapsed time was like under two seconds for the entire play, but there's a moment where you're like, this is going in, it's over. Yeah, I mean, I think as soon as Mitch touched the puck, you know, it takes, I mean, it's such a skill of his where he takes off the wall and then point one seconds and you kind of saw a play developer,

McJayver was in front all alone and if he dodged them, you knew that, you know, Jay was gonna put them in the back of the net and he made the play and then it's kind of a, it's in my mind, I've been on the bench, he had a perfect view of it, it's slow motion and he does what he does and he puts it in the top corner and everyone went nuts.

So it was, I mean, a little pre-skill for us, a great play, obviously great players making great plays and back in that and then the boys are cheering. You know, John Cooper, you've played for John Cooper for so long now. We've all heard the audio and then the boys are cheering. You know, John Cooper, um, you've played for John Cooper for so long now. Uh, we've all heard the audio and seen the video. Will someone just be selfish and shoot the puck in the nets? Uh, what was John Cooper like for you and where were you for that moment where he said that?

I think it was on the bench and, um, Coop always does like, he always has those little remarks kind of during the game and, and and you know, he's still positive and kind of does coffee. So he was just like, let's go, someone just put it in the back of the net and shoot it and, um, that's what they did. That's what he did. Uh, what, one, one final thing here. Um, how much of this, like, are you thinking to yourself, you're playing in this tournament, how much are you thinking to yourself,'re playing in this tournament how much are you thinking to yourself if at all i don't know um olympics that this is this is this is trumming the waters

for the olympics yeah i mean all you see is the back of your mind is about you know 12 months away and um i think just going through this experience kind of of uh you know how hard these games are and how uh you got to play in them you know how like i said already but i think just you know how hard these games are and how you got to play in them, you know, like I said already, but I think just, you know, trying to have a good summer this year, you know, come back next season and just have a good showing and try to make a case to try and get on that team. Is it tough to adjust coming back? A little bit, a little bit. I mean, just in those games, I mean, everyone's going 110 mile per hour every second of every shift. You know, and obviously you can't sustain that for a full 82 game season.

But, you know, a tournament like that, you have to do that, because if you don't, then the other team is going to score. And then coming back here, you know, and playing and you'll play two games right now. It's just you feel like you have a little bit more time with the puck, a little bit more space. But just goes to show like how committed everyone that tournament was to to playing the right way, playing good defense and being able to screw up. You know, my son goes to Bill Crothers, your old high school, Zach Phillips, who produces the show, he went to Bill Caruthers.

It's in Unionville, for those that don't know, just a little bit north of Toronto, and they put out a big post on Instagram congratulating you. And I'm curious, like, from, like, you win something like that, or just showing this out, yeah, Bill Caruthers sending this out. Look at that, hey, look at that young Anthony Cerelli.

Look at that. You ever have a quick memory from those days? Yeah, I mean, they're, they're awesome. Um, I was there for three years. Um, it's just such a great school for, for athletes because they kind of help you out in ways that a regular school wouldn't, you know, you're, you're missing a lot of time kind of when you're going for tournaments and, you know, athletes are good practices. So, I mean, they did a great job of time kind of when you're going for tournaments and, you know, athletes are good practices. So, I mean, you did a great job of helping

me get through school where I could focus on my sport, focus on playing monarchy and knowing that they'll be there to help me with the, you know, the school aspect of it. Anybody, any surprises for like who reached out to you? I mean, previous high school is an obvious

one, but like anyone like, like, you know, all of a sudden, like randomly you wake up one morning and say, Oh, I didn't expect to get a text from this person. Uh, you know, there's a lot of people. I mean, like if you saw the numbers on the game, like everyone watched everybody. And, uh, it's just nice. You know, people, people haven't talked in a while, um, just like a congratulations text, so it's awesome to see, um, how, how big of a term in this wasn't and how many eyes we've got on her.

Um, I've always maintained it is the fool who bets against the Tampa Bay lightning. Just when you think, okay, they've lost the one player too many, uh, Tampa comes back and proves every everybody wrong. Uh, right now you guys are playing some great hockey as we all know. What's the secret sauce? It seems like it doesn't really sort of matter. Lose a couple of guys including a franchise icon, no problem. We got one back in Ryan McDonough and we're off to the races again.

What's the secret ingredient here? Yeah, I mean, I think just like management and coaching staff do such a great job. Whoever they bring in seems to just help us win games. You know, I think we have a great leadership in the room with, you know, Hedy and Mack and Cooch and Pointer, guys that have been there and have won. So I think just, you know, everyone kind of buys in. We have a pretty tight network and, you know, everyone kind of puts the USI for the better team and stick into our structure, stick to the right way. And then we just have gamers like guys that are willing to do whatever it takes to win. So I think when you kind of add all up together,

you know, it's just good stuff. Listen, we talk a lot about you and Pointe and Hedman, certainly Kucherov. Who are, and Hegel, like who's Vasilevsky, geez, the murderers row you have there. Who are the guys, or is there one guy that you think that us in media miss, totally miss out and we should talk about more?

I think the two guys is McDonough and Cherenac. Um, you know, they play such hard minutes and they play the game so hard and they're kind of like our backbone back there and in the defensive side of the puck. Um, you know, we harp a lot of it on defending wall and kind of limiting chances and goals against. and I think those two guys Every night going against you know, the best players and then just the block shots that they have the minutes they play There they're just stellar back there and how calm they are So, I mean you could obviously go around like you said of every guy in there that that sacrifice and does that but those two guys

For what they bring to the team and their leadership, you know, max leadership ability, it's huge for us. You know, I had one person mentioned to me about Ryan McDonough that he said, there's no player, there's no defenseman in the NHL who gets back to position quicker or more efficiently than Ryan McDonoughough agree or disagree? Oh

agree agree, he's always in the right spot and If he isn't he's there all the time. I mean, he's just so He's just so smart with his stick with his body positioning He's so calm out there You know when do any know work, you know when we're out there, we're safe with him and Churney out there because they control the game so well. But yeah, Macri, I mean, he skates like the wind too. I know he's not the flashiest guy on the outside of the puck, but I mean, you see him tracking the puck can get on the bounce shot. He's unbelievable.

I do want to ask you about the rivalry with the Florida Panthers. Now you just spent a couple of emotional weeks with Sam Bennett, who for most teams is public enemy number one. Can you get that same type of animosity up for Sam Bennett after having gone through something like that with him? Hahaha, I don't know. I mean, he's uh, I'm actually a couple times before the tournament and he's awesome. But just what the way he plays, what he brings to the game, like his physicality, the plays that he makes, he could score.

He's a guy that does it all. Um, and it was nice for a change being on the same team as him and playing against him. But I don't know, we'll have to see if we get another playoff match up here, what transpires. I think the whole hockey world's waiting for one of those again, thank you very much. I think that's one of those things now that two are at the height of their powers through Stanley Cup champions. Let me close on this. So, uh, from now, like the next tent pole is, is

trade deadline and then the Stanley Cup playoffs. Um, John Cooper is one of the most successful coaches the game has ever seen. I still can't believe he hasn't won a Jack Adams. Uh, you're always in the conversation for the Selke trophy, um, you know, Braden Point remains one of the more underrated players, Kucherov and Harden and everything.

Like there's such into Vasilevsky with the Vezna. Like there's so many individual players. Hedman's a former Norris Trophy winner. So many individual players you can focus on and talk about how wonderful they are. But what is like, is it different this year with Tampa heading into the playoffs? Is there, is it now that, you know, hey, listen, we look, look you know down the street and the Florida Panthers have the Stanley Cup, does that change things for Tampa? I mean I think you know for us as a team it was it's it's always get into the playoffs first and and let's see what happens and and I

think we're a team you know kind of built for the playoffs and I think the way we're kind of playing well right now and trying to get that game intact. Like you said Florida is the reigning champs there and I think that I think the last five years it was either it was us for three and them for two. You know two kind of teams going at it and those years against them are absolute battles and wars. But yeah, I think we're excited. We're excited to push here for the next 20 games and know where we are. Obviously we want to push to maybe try and win the vision. I think we're a couple points out, but I think for us it's just kind of focusing our game and getting it ready.

Obviously first securing that playoff spot, that's goal number one. And then once we get in the playoffs, kind of build up for that. This has been awesome. Congrats again from all corners, from coast to coast to coast in Canada. And best of luck the rest of the way to the Tampa Bay Lightning. Thanks so much for stopping by with me today. Yeah, no problem. Thanks for having me, guys. Do you have business insurance? If not, how would you pay to recover from a cyber attack, fire damage, theft, or a lawsuit? No business or profession is risk-free.

Without insurance, your assets are at risk from major financial losses, data breaches, and natural disasters. Get customized coverage today starting at $19 per month at ZenSurance.com. Be protected. Be Zen. All right, there is Anthony Cirelli from the Tampa Bay Lightning. You know, interesting with that, and Zach, like you went to Bill Crothers as well. And Zach, like you went to Bill Crothers as well. He was, and the coach was by the way, Brent Scagnetti. I get that right? Was Brent Scagnetti, so he's no longer, he just retired.

Mr. Scagnetti. Mr. Scagnetti. So Mr. Scagnetti, who is now retired, had him on the Bill Crothers hockey team, grades nine and 10, but only used them as a fourth-line center because he wasn't there to score he's mainly there to kill penalties and to check and that guy turned into a two-time Stanley Cup champion Memorial Cup champion score the game winning goal and now Four Nations

champion played double a late into his career too, I believe. And then had like a brief stint to triple A. Then went undrafted to the OHL, made it to the OHL. Went to my high school. All list of accomplishments. You know what? It's a really cool story. It's a really cool story because you're right. I think his U16 year, or as you like to refer to it as, minor midget, his U16 year he finally

went to AAA and played with the reps and then his U18 he played with the reps as well. Reps always have a good U18 program. But like his is a story of perseverance and never quitting and never drafted and overcome all the challenges. He was a walk-on with the Oshawa generals etc etc etc You know what the flip side to that one is like for every Anthony Cirelli success story and Cirelli is like the ultimate success story Like you look at what what he's done like look at all the hardware that he's picked up along the way You know one of the things I always think about It's gonna sound awful. We never talked about things like this. We never talked about things like this. The guy that probably should have quit and just hung on like way too long. I'm sure you saw them growing up in

your life and your hockey career like hey guy you know what it's not gonna happen. You know Cirelli is the ultimate success story, but how many guys end up playing deep in their 30s and you kind of say like, it might be time to grow up now because it's never gonna happen. That's why I finished out Midget, said that's it for me boys. I'm gonna go play intramural hockey and drink dollar beers on Wednesday nights. I think that's more my career path. You have something cool tonight. Is this the second week in a row you're playing with Pavel Barber? Not second week in a row, but second time.

Second time. Yeah, playing with Pavel Barber. Did it earlier, remember? Turped about the flyby and all that stuff. Yeah, was that not last week? Yeah, gonna go. Oh, your flyby, oh my God. That was a while ago.

Yeah. Was it a while ago? Okay, how did you two run together? Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, I know. a while ago? Okay, how was the show thrown together? Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Got another one here tonight. Outdoor.

I'll try my best. Get video. Get video for this one. I really wanna see just like, I wanna see like the lazy back checks, the fly-bys, all of it. The wide turns. I'll try to go with Vengeance.

No stops, no stops and starts. Just wide turn, taking yourself out of the play, doing everything you can so you don't bend your knees the whole time. Yeah, pretty much. Give me that guy. Do you have a thought, by the way? And I want to thank Anthony Cerelli for stopping by, and also thanks to Tampa Bay Lightning for making him available.

Did you have a thought on that Brady Kachuck piece with spitting chiclets? Because I honestly like the more that I think about it the more I absolutely love it. Like again like it doesn't have to be true for it to be a story and I know that everywhere one of the Kachuck brothers go usually like there's a trail of hatred from that fan base. Like it's pretty easy. They're really, really good at it. And we've normally focused in on Matthew, but him just saying like shady business

about the Vancouver Canucks and Quinn Hughes. Guy's painting a Picasso here and just churning out headlines. Good on him. Yeah, a couple things. First of all was, I hope Wish does not get a hold of this because that was- Oh, he's seen it. He's seen it for sure.

That was nightmare. That was his. That's his conspiracy theory right away. I know. I know. So I'm like, I saw that and I'm like, this is bad. This is bad news for us here. Get this off the internet. The second was a little bit harsher. If you are upset by this, put the phone down, go outside, get some fresh air. This is good for the game. This is good for growth. He's joking, guys.

Like, he's a tongue-in-cheek comment. It's a funny comment. And it's gonna fire some people up, funny. Like, this is what you need for the game. It's not the same stuff. The NBA also, by the way, like picks up in social media and builds things because they develop drama. Well, that drama's probably gone a little bit too far

where it's like, do they play the sport anymore or is it just all about who's on what team and what's people saying in the media? There was none of that in hockey. You know, we finally have a point where we get a little bit where it's entertaining and people speak their minds. It's great. Let them do it.

We should be encouraging this, not bashing people for saying this stuff. That was unreal from him to say that. And oh, by the way, to Wyshinski's point yesterday, the Kachuk brothers are going on the New Heights podcast. The Kelsey brothers. That's so good. Like, it's just...

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roll up the rim anymore. It's roll up to win. You and Tim's guy like the rest of the country, Rosie? Of course I am. Of course I am. Funny story, you bring it up. I was rocking one yesterday, dropped my kids off at school, got there for my pod, grabbed a coffee, realized it was roll up and I just uh I just dug it out of the garbage because I remembered I haven't rolled it up yet. So I'm looking at it right now it's getting rolled soon. I love how you have to actually roll up the cup man like that was that was I know that's awesome. I love that might be like your resignation could be in that right now. You could just be like all of a sudden, like I'm pending my resignation, piecing out on all of it.

It's, I mean, it's such a Canadian institution for crying out loud. Anyhow, good to see that that is back. Good to see your smiling face again. And a couple of issues around the Toronto Maple Leafs. And I want to get there in a couple of seconds, Rosie, but I see you're stealing my guest. You're stealing my weekly.

Brian Burke is on Leafaps Morning Take tomorrow. What's your relation? I mean, listen, no surprise. Like you're one of Burke's favorites. What was your relationship with Brian Burke and what's your relationship with Burke like now? Yeah, I mean, the first, I got traded to Toronto from Tampa's organization and showed up there.

He had just taken the reins. They kind of, they signed me to a two year extension right after that. And it was kind of late in the season. So I had my summer showed up to camp and wasn't really sure where I fit. I hadn't played in the NHL yet. I had switched forward, you know, two years prior.

And I just remember standing there watching some of the fitness testing. And I just felt this presence behind me. and a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a and and went out and gave her hell. But every time I came across him, talked to him, it was just, you just got this sense that he cared about you, he knew about you, he knew my wife's name, he knew a lot of intimate details about people and there's a lot of people to know that about and you'd get them mixed up and shuffled around and he's been in so many organizations.

That's hard to do, but he was a guy that made a point of knowing all those things, and I know that it's because he genuinely cared. You know, one of my favorite stories that he's told me is when he was in Vancouver, and the Rangers were playing the Canucks, and this was when he was running Vancouver, and his son Patrick was there on the ice with Berkey, and they're just passing the puck around at Pacific Coliseum, I guess it would have been and Wayne Gretzky came on early before the Rangers skate and Brian said he immediately left the ice and wouldn't go on the ice when

Wayne Gretzky was on because he, Brian Berkey, did not deserve to be on the same sheet of ice as Wayne Gretzky. Patrick stayed on, Patrick's now with the NHL Department of Player Safety same sheet of ice as Wayne Greske. Patrick stayed on, Patrick's now with the NHL Department of Player Safety. So Patrick stayed on and passed the puck with Gretzson back and forth and all that. And I just think to myself, like, for a guy, cause you know, Burke, you like, and guys like him,

like they have codes that they live by. Thank you very much. And for Brian Burke, one of his codes is, I don't belong on the same sheet of ice as Wayne Greske. Rosie, I'm guessing that story does not surprise you. No, not a bit. He's not a lot of people deserve to be on the same ice as as Wayne. Oh, but Berkey's exactly that.

He's a guy that understands things like that, like the codes. And you read his book, Burke's Law. I've been through it more than once. And it's full of examples of that where he doesn't think it's his place and he didn't feel comfortable doing that. And he needed to check with this guy before he made that decision

because he thought it was the right thing to do. And the book's full of those examples. And you know, you could, if you don't know him, you could maybe think that he was brash or arrogant or any of those types of things that I'm sure he's been called. But it does not take long to dig a little deeper and realize that Burke is full of um of class and understanding and and wherewithal about what's going on around him. He's always gotten it and I think that's a

big reason why he's been in the game as long as he has. Okay to this year's edition of the Toronto Maple Leafs and more specifically Rosie, last year's edition of the Toronto Maple Leafs and more specifically Rosie last night's edition of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Once upon a time there's a Toronto Maple Leafs team that would have wilted given what happened early in that game. But you know I don't want to sort of bias the jury here or sort of taint the question but your wide brush thoughts on what we saw last night at TD Garden culminating with a Mitch Marner overtime game winner. Yeah, I think you're seeing this season with the Toronto Maple Leafs and it's not a drastic departure from what they were before, but the tweaks and the changes and the tinkers, they seem to have a different character to them and they're

finding ways to win hockey games this year where in the not so distant past, they have found ways to lose hockey games. I mean, no lead was safe. You didn't know what to expect. You should expect the unexpected with them. And they're starting to become more reliable. And I think they believe in themselves. They're able to come back when they don't start

with their best. They're able to close the door when they get a lead on teams. They're doing a lot of things that they're not known for and I think when you when you kind of peer behind the curtain with those types of details, you're starting to see that maybe there is reason to think that that this team's a little bit different than ones in the past. I was gonna say like that was my follow-up to all of this Rosie's like every single year you hear Toronto Maple Leafs fans saying this year it's different. this year it's different.

This year it's different. And there's always a reason why it's different, right? Um, but I'll, I'll, I'll submit to you because you played in the NHL, you watch the NHL, you follow this team. Is it different with this squad? Well, no matter what area you're talking about, I feel like Maple Leafs fans, Leafs Nation, the pundits, whoever you're talking about, there's just this, there's no middle ground. It's either they're unbelievable or they're terrible. And it's your building statues or you're tearing them down.

You're planning a parade or you're done with, you're burning your jersey and throwing it on the ice, those different types of acts that people seem to be at. And it's those extremes that they've gotten to. And I'm not saying it's undeserved. They've shown signs of being phenomenal and then they just fall flat. They give you hope and then they take it away.

And the bottom line is this fan base has been tormented since 1967 in all kinds of different ways with all kinds of different players. And those scars don't go away until you can give them what they ultimately want. So I understand why when they're doing well, there is the naysayers to still say, don't get ahead of yourself, I've seen this movie before.

But I think we have a big enough picture of where they've fallen short and how they've fallen short. And whether you're talking about the goaltending duo this year, the coaching staff, the attitudes that all of the players have taken, the attention to detail, the consistency that they've played at. I think those are all pretty core reasons to believe that it could be different this year. And I'm just saying there's a different feeling around the way they're playing hockey example last night, right? The team from 2019 or 2022 or take your pick didn't win that hockey game in the

TD garden, but they do this year. And you could point out different reasons on why that happened. And I think it's a plethora of them. I'm not building the statues or planning the parade but I'm saying they're doing the things that that are necessary to get over the humps that they haven't been able to in the past. So you're not saying it's time to measure the bridges to make sure the floats will fit underneath for the route where we're not at that level yet. But if they're gonna inch closer to getting the tape measures out

for the bridges in Toronto. Like you look at, you know, there's always this sort of hue and cry of they need better defense, need better defense. But then the playoff puck drops and the defense is fine. Just have a hard time scoring goals here. If you're Brad Traliving, what's going through your mind in advance of trade deadline? Well, you're totally right. People are always talking like in the off season when they fall short

and losing the first round, they're saying our goalies aren't good enough. We need stud defensemen. And you're absolutely right. If you look at it, guys, were you watching? They couldn't score any goals. They're losing to one like you've got to score goals. And at the end of the day, you can move some pieces around. And it's nice that since

the four nations face off break, they have come out and their core pieces, their bottom six, their depth, whatever you want to call them has been coming up big and contributing offensively, which you absolutely need in a deep playoff run. But at the end of the day, it's the big boys that have to score the big goals. It's, it's, it's, that's how you've built this team. That's where your eggs are. They're in the basket of the core four, if they're still being called that. But Willie needs to score the big goals.

Austin needs to put the team on his back. Mitch needs to power through and have performances consistently and through the games and through the rounds that they get to it. It's just, it, nothing happens without that. So as much as you can nitpick and obviously talk about this stuff every day, you get into the dirty details of it all. And those are important,

but without those guys having playoff performances, and I mean, I would, if they can all get hot at the same time and pull their weight, I don't think there's a team that can really beat them. We just haven't seen that. They've struggled to do that. And, you know, Mitch in recent weeks here has been able to show up and play heavier hockey and not shy away and not be a ghost and score the big one. Albeit lots of it is

on three on three, which you're not going to get in the playoffs, but I think he's riding high right now. I think he's got an extra belief in himself and it's, it's showing up in the last couple of weeks, including the foreign nations, which is a great sign for Leafs fans. Yeah, let me pause on Marner here because I mean, he's one of the most divisive players on the team. It used to be Nylander, right?

It used to be William, the audit for the Toronto Maple Leafs revolved around Nylander and now it revolves around Mitch Marner. On morning cup of hockey this morning, part of conversation was you know what happens with Marner? What does that next contract look like? Where is that next contract? You know he's with Cortex, Darren Ferris is the agent. He's a big believer in you know if you're if you're this close to free agency like go there. Go have a look. Go have a look at the other,

go have a peek over the mountain and see what's there. He's a big supporter of walking guys to free agency. Complicating all of this for Marner is, so much of Mitch Marner being Mitch Marner sort of revolves around, whether it's his activations outside of hockey, revolve around him being a Toronto Maple Leaf and it's almost as if you sort of feel this sort of

tug and pull of My guy can go to free agency and there'll be a lineup Versus we know your guy wants to stay in Toronto So how do you find the decimal point here that makes everybody happy? When you look at not the, not the immediate future, but the long-term future of Mitch Marner here, Rosie, what goes through your brain? Like, what are your questions? It's, it's how, it's how headstrong are each side of this conversation in their number. Like Brad Trilliving would love to sign him for X and I promise you that's less than what Mitch Marner

would love to sign for. And if, just like any other deal, if those are too far apart and they both dig their heels in too much, it's not going to happen. Or at least he's gonna get walked to free agency and that doesn't mean you lose him forever. You could still get him after that fact, but I don't know what Mitch's number is. I don't know how badly he wants to stay in Toronto.

And I don't know how bad tree wants to resign him and what he's willing to give. But we do know that the problem with Toronto is having too many eggs in the basket of a few. And it used to say, I don't know if you can win a cup with a $10 million player, that's just too much. Albeit the cap has gone up and it will continue to do so and that's great. But when you look at Neylander's contract

and when you look at Auston Matthews contract and now you're gonna give another massive contract to Mitch Marner and all anybody knows for sure is that none of these guys have done the Nathan McKinnon thing and stood up and said, get on my back. I am plowing and treading through the playoffs. I'm going to take you to the finals. I'm going to get us over the hump and win you Stanley Cup. In fact, none of them have been even close. So that's a scary thing. And you know, they've

used the phrase, run it back. We're going to run it back. We're going to run it back. And people pull their hair out saying, well, the definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result. So you signed Mitch to a 14 year old, $14 million a year contract. You have pretty much exact same team core that you've had that has fallen short in the past, however many years for the next, however many years. And I think that's just kind of scary to people based on what's, what's transpired in the playoffs.

It's a fascinating, listen this is like the sports talk radio topic in Toronto. Like it's like when you wake up in the morning, what are we gonna talk about today? Marner. Boom, instant. But it's true. But there's no answer and there's all kinds of different thoughts and some people love him. Some people don't. So there's a polarizing dynamic there.

That's what makes it so good. That's what makes it so good. That's what makes it so great. I really don't know what's gonna happen. I have no idea. I have no idea what's gonna happen. I would love to think. I don't know what's gonna happen.

Anytime you try to, it's like grabbing a handful of water. You think, okay, I got it. Whoa, where did it just go? Okay, let me close on this one then. I am curious about over your right shoulder, There's a hockey night in Canada towel and When I was doing ringside for hockey night in Canada my favorite hockey night in Canada well, I have two one when I was in Calgary and Was it a was it a bar with Jamal Mares and Nigel Dawes and Jamal asked if I could get him a hockey night towel because the one that he had

His brother used it and it was all ruined because he was dying his afro Like red or orange or something like that and erect the towel But my other favorite hockey night in Canada towel story that I was involved in Was it was a San Jose Montreal game and I remember talking to Ryan Clough after the skate and he's like, I really want one of those hockey night towels. And he's like, are you in charge of like,

like who gets the towels or the interviews and all that? I'm like, well, that's like, like Ryan, put it this way. If you do something in this period when we do the visitor's interview, if you do something, I'll request you like, go and do something. So sure enough, Clow goes, it gets like two goals in a fight.

And like, I didn't even get into position and Klo's already just standing there saying, put the towel on me, Merrick, put the towel on me. What is your hockey night in Canada towel story? I've got two of them and I wouldn't be a guy that normally gets interviewed in between periods. But so first one or the second one, I think the second one was my first game playing

for the Flyers was in Toronto against the Toronto Maple Leafs. And I had fought Colt Noor and done well, and then I scored the game winner and it just went off of my shaft. And it was a pretty devastating night for Toronto. I think they were needing that win as usual. And it was kind of anticlimactic being on the other side of it, but to be back in the NHL after the lockout and He's got one hanging off his golf bag and he's dirtying it up. He's probably got 30 of them.

So mine's a little more precious than his are. I really do wonder who holds the record. I'm guessing it's probably Crosby, maybe Gretzky. Now that I actually really think about it, probably Wayne, who has the record there. One of those guys. Speaking of Wayne and Tim's earlier, have you ever seen, have you ever seen anyone order the the the Wayne Gretzky at Tim Hortons? You know what I'm talking about?

You know this one? The Gretzky? The Extra Large Coffee 9 Sugar 9 Cream? Have you ever seen that? Yeah, it's a thing bud. Yeah. I haven't even heard of that. It double-doubled to me.

You might as well just get a hot chocolate. Nine and nine. Yeah, order the Gretzky. See what happens you go to the drive-thru with Tim's order the Gretzky and see if they know what you're talking about I'll do it just for fun but if they bring it out I'll have to order two because that one's going in the garbage yeah right I found out about this like years ago I'm like when am I ever gonna use this?

Well, here I am in a conversation with Jay Rossell and Tim Horton and we'll bring up the 99, the Wayne Gretzky Tim Hortons order. Okay, and that will let you go. Continued success, my friend. We'll check back soon. Same to you. Thank you, Jeffrey. We'll see you again. There he is, the great Jay Rossell, one half of Leafs Morning Take, along with someone else who, Zach Phillips, works out at this time. Yeah, every time I ask him, he just says, "'Jim, bud, Jim.'"

What's his name, Jim? What? Jim, say hi to Jim. Why are you always seeing Jim at this time? Yeah. Can't you go see Jim earlier? Do you have business insurance? If not, how would you pay to recover from a cyber attack, fire damage, theft, or a lawsuit?

No business or profession is risk-free. Without insurance, your assets are at risk from major financial losses, data breaches, and natural disasters. Get customized coverage today starting at $19 per month at ZenSurance.com. Be protected. Be Zen. All right. Have you heard of that one, by the way, the Gretzky? Yeah, I have. Have you ever had it? It's like, you just pour cream and sugar in a coffee cup and like whisper coffee over

the top of it. Okay, so you know what that reminds me of? Have you ever had the white hot chocolate at Tim Hortons? No, I just get black. I just get a black coffee. That's my jam. Yeah, I do too. But so I lost the bet and I had to have, I think it was a hundred old-fashioned plain Timbits and for those in America who don't know is like

the driest things of all time when you exceed five. And for every white hot chocolate I drank I could take ten off. so I had 50 old-fashioned plain timbits and 5 white hot chocolates. It was disgusting. You just do like stunts. Like you just love stunts whether it's like smelling salts or like timbits. I just found it when I went to Jasper. Jay Doughton are like big big big big boss boss boss boss boss uh told me they don't like that uh sour sour cream glazed isn't a thing in the united states did you know that sour cream glazed donuts is not a thing in the united states someone in the chat from from us i do

whether i'm on you know why i know that why burke burke told us that some for yes on an episode oh Oh, he did you know how I oh my god I can't believe I forgot about that. Yeah, you did in which is Gregory Jim Gregory with Jim Gregory. That's right We did talk about this you when you were in Jasper. Oh man Wow My friend sometimes my brain shots the I forget all these stuff. There's a lot going on Jeff Outlandish cake guy who by the way has now sampled very shudsy I forget all these stuff. There's a lot going on Jeff. Outlandish Cake Guy who by the way has now sampled Morning Cup of Hockey I'm glad to announce. Sour cream glazed is the best. Really good, really good. Okay I

swear we're gonna clean up the mess that we started this week. Every single day on this show this week we've been like ah like, like Zach and I will talk and like, oh, we forgot about this. Oh, we forgot about that. Oh, we forgot about this. Little Willie Stiles, Vick and send me some donuts. And now Lanish Takei says they are Canadian only. Man, the things I am learning.

The things I am learning. Okay, what do we need to clean up today? What are the things we need to clean up? Most important for sure is emails. Let's it okay email also show to people yes there you go email the show the sheet at the nation network comm I want to announce I know no surprise we're already behind and that is all my fault I'll dive on the grenade I'll fall on the sword it is not like I'm the anti Roast Your Producer guy. Like, no, no, this one's all on me. It's because I'm such a bad

host. I'm just awful. I've already got these backed up and don't worry, we're going to get to them. We're going to get to all the ones that you guys have already sent in. So what are we starting with today? Let's start with the first email that we got. also by the way great comment by producer Vic in the chat right now We're talking about things that are only Canadian Hockey gold medals or in senior hockey gold medals trolling hard Troll hard troll. Okay, let's do the emails.

Alright, let's do the letter. The first one we got here. Do you want to read this, Jeff? Do you want me to? Okay, Dear Jeff and Zach. Actually, you know what? I've said a lot of words. Why don't we hear your dulcet tones?

Everyone's sick of my nasally voice. You do yours. Get the good deep voice, rich basso profundo. Here we go. Dear Jeff and Zach, motivated by Michael Grandlin's OT winner versus Sweden where his white jersey seemed to be stained with red energy drink. I was wondering if you could ask one of the team's equipment staff about how they launder the jerseys. How often do they clean them? What's the process? Would this apply to the fanatics premium jerseys that a lot of us fans wear? When away jerseys get stained with sports drink or blood during a game, are those jerseys replaced or are

they able to clean them? And if so, how? Thought this might be interesting. Coleman from Edmonton. Okay. Gold flames go. All right. Coleman. Yeah, that's an interesting one. From Edmonton. Okay flames go. All right Coleman. Yeah, it's an instrument from Edmonton Go flames go. Yeah, that's why I made sure to put it in there. That's that's a nice. That's a nice touch Okay, so I did ask an equipment manager in the NHL who shall remain nameless. I will read Although I'll have to edit slightly so as to not reveal identity because teams get a little weird about you talking to their equipment managers, but here we go. We travel with two sets of jerseys basically

for situations like this. It's mostly when they get bloody or torn real bad. As for the sports drink slash supplement side, that can be a pain in the ass. Very annoying for us. The guys are usually pretty receptive when we ask them, quote, please do your best with the drip on your jersey. So guys do get asked, right? We've seen a ton of things in water bottles. Actually, you know what guys were doing a while ago? I don't think it's really much of ton of things in water bottles actually you know what guys were doing a while ago

I don't think it's really much of a thing anymore in the NHL someone can correct me if I'm wrong There were a lot of guys that were using beet supplements in Their water bottles and it would yeah, it would drip all its brutal. I know it's harsh, right? And it would and it would drip all over the collars. And you would see guys be skating off in their whites and they'd be like, it would look red from the beet supplements that they would have in their water.

Anyhow, jerseys get washed every game and the soaps we always use get blood, juice, cola out of them. When the league made the switch- Cola is funny. Cola is a tough, yeah, that's an interesting one. What was it? Marty Bradour would have two Diet Cokes after every period.

I remember I used to do it next to Dude New Jersey. Chara on the bench, Ovi on the bench. Yeah, yes. When the league made the switch from Adidas to Fanatics there was literally zero transition or issues with the pro stuff. It all came from the same factory and the new fanatic stuff has been just fine. That from an unnamed equipment manager in the NHL, I hope that satisfies. Coleman? Yes, Coleman from Edmonton. Here is another email. This is a follow up.

I don't know if there's really a question in this one, but I think you're just gonna like it. I laughed reading it. Hi Jeff and ZP. Context. I'm a Southern Californian 89 who was a Disney kid and longtime roller goaller. I am now a Ducks mini season plan holder and a fan of Anaheim's since 96-97. In 0506 I was sitting in the lower bowl at the pond for a game between the blues and ducks. When a ruckus was raised on the ice, the conflagration caused someone sitting behind me to throw their nachos in my direction, blasting my right butt cheek with a yellow cheese-esque plasma, staining both my wallet pocket and my replica 9899 Nike white and green Mighty Ducks home

alternate sweater. Somehow almost two decades later, I finally got the stain out in the wash. I guess this email is sponsored by Tide now. Anyway, I know this isn't getting right on the air, but I love the wash. I guess this email is sponsored by Tide now. Anyway, I know this isn't getting right on the air, but I love the show. Thanks for giving me a reason and a way to reach out to you, Vic in San Diego. Well, Vic, you got on the show. You can use the reverse psychology by saying, I know you're not going to read this. Just pretty much a guarantee because it's a challenge. So well done.

I read it and started laughing. It's like the cheese on the on the back pocket. Sorry about your ass there guy. The cheese on it. Okay yeah do you want to do one more? We had another one. Is a math problem is what it was labeled. A math problem okay. Yeah let's see what we can do here. Okay hey Zach and Jeff maybe this one takes some more takeaways here and we got to figure some stuff out after. All right. How can you solve a math problem for me? No.

The average is between 600 and 800 injuries in brackets of all types on a 40-week season. The four nations shut the league down for 10 days for an approximate, uh, for approximately 700 players that extra rest and avoid injury to their team's benefit. So why are the hockey media preoccupied with Four Nations related injuries when those players still wouldn't be exposed to injury potential in regular season games? By math, this is where it gets too smart for you and I, Jeff. 87.5% out times one and a half weeks off times 15 to 20 injuries equals 20 to 26 average injuries avoided versus tournament injuries seems like a real good deal even for the owners slash fans. You can even apply it out for next year's Olympics. What say you, Amy? First of all, the

reason I'm doing this is because I dropped out of math in grade 11. Humberside Collegiate Institute pieced out after Mr. Glickson's grade 11 math. By grade 12, I was done. The main issue is even though statistically it might work out to be just fine, thank you very much, injuries at something at the four nations are catastrophic because you're dealing with the best players from all the teams. So it's not as if it's like, okay, fourth line right winger that did something was MCL. Okay, it's not going to be as much of a problem with all due respect to that jag. This is the second time we've said jag on the show today.

To that jag as it is to someone like our guest on the show today, Anthony Cirelli, which are absolutely devastating. So it's not so much the volume of injury as much as who it happens to. That's what I would come back with. And thankfully that's my way of toe dragging my way out of having to answer a math question. How'd I do, Zach?

Pretty good. That's the same answer that I had when I read this one earlier. It was the same way to approach this. Yeah. All right. Very good. That's the same answer that I had when I read this one earlier. It was the same way to approach this. Alright, very good. Mr. Public Pain, sorry math 102030, still do math today, lol physics mostly though. Adam M, grade 11, mixed math and that was it. Yeah. Alright, everyone's with me on this one.

I did some math through university. I did some math. university. I did some. You did eh? Not like advanced stuff but yeah. I did some math. I did grade 10 or grade 11 that was it. My math teacher was this awesome guy Mr. Glickson and he was an old hippie great dude right from the 60s and he used to bring they finally made him stop but he used to bring his python to school he would teach with a python snake around his neck because I love snakes. So you see in movies Jeff. I know Mr. Glickson was a legend he's no longer with us but it was a first of all great math teacher looked like a hippie had like the big bushy beard the long hair ponytail and

all that and had this python around his neck you walk around school ladies gentlemen hello and the wonderful mathematician too super smart I just thought like this guy was the coolest guy in the world my math teacher used to bring a snake to school can't probably do that anymore I'm guessing Zach but it was no it was a different time sir it was a different time so god bless you mr. Quillen wherever you are. So poor Sreli for that picture that Bill Crothers put out of him while we're on the topic of school. I would not want my grade nine photo out there.

I can't imagine. I don't even remember. Everybody's the same way. Everyone's the same way. Everyone's like, oh God, look what I looked like. What kind of chimp did I look like? That was brutal for sure. But Crothers is a good school.

So you went there and played on the hockey team, right? Like my oldest son's in grade nine, he loves it. Like Cervale was saying, like it accommodates a pretty heavy workload for sports. Like you get to work out every day. They have like a class where you go and work out. You have a day where you have a class where you go and do all your homework for the day. Like it's, it's a, it's a, essentially it's a, it's a,

it's a high school that accommodates people that have a robust sports schedule attached to their, to their, to their life. Yeah. Unbelievable facilities too. You know, Morgan Frost went there, right? Morgan Frost went there too. Travis Thurman as well. Oh, new Euler recently required by the Oilers and Morgan Frost now the Calgary Flames Bianca and dress cute went there. Oh, yeah other people as well that I got a pull-up Yeah, it's like Phillips went there good the legend. I went there Philly the legend he now works with you now works with Merrick

Wow, yes, rethink your choices. Yes He now works with Merrick. Wow. Rethink your choices. Yes. Rethink your decisions. Rethink your decisions. Okay, we have more games tonight. Last night was awesome, by the way.

Last night was great. Some really good games. We have three games on the go around the NHL this evening. Our friends at FanDuel, proud to connect fans to the major sports moments that matter to them. Roster updates as always from daily face-off fantasy, Twitter, slash ex-feed. We've got Winnipeg and Ottawa the Canadian Tire Center as you already know Jets have won 10 games in a row. No Kachak, no Norris, no Pinto.

Brady Kachak is too busy insulting teams in the NHL to worry about hockey. They're describing it as a lower-body injury but really he's just on the hate tour along with his brother just going out there and roasting NHL teams. Magnificent Brady Kachuk. New Jersey and Colorado this one at the ball arena. Mackenzie Blackwood starts for Colorado as Nick Albrego would say revenge game against his old New Jersey Devils team. Jake Allen starts for the Devils. It is the return of Valeri Natchushkin of the Colorado Avalanche Vancouver and Los

Angeles at Crypto.com Arena. This one's interesting for a couple of different reasons here. Most notably, will we see the return of Quinn Hughes? Dun dun dun dun! The drama builds. He's listed as a game time decision. He has not, Zach, played a game in over three weeks and has indicated he will not be at 100% yes for the remainder of the season, to which Brady Kachuk would say what?

Shady business, Jeff. Shady business. Shady business. Dave Riddick will start for your Los Angeles Kings, Kevin Lankton for your Vancouver Canucks, and the Los Angeles Kings now have found gold in that line of Bifield, Kempe, and Kevin Fiala who were great against the Vegas Golden Knights the other night. I went to Bifield, I have four assists and that one was just fantastic that entire game. So there is that.

One other thing that I wanted to mention, and this is coming off a conversation on morning cup of hockey. How are we doing on time? Oh, terrible. Okay, doesn't matter. We'll still go. Around four nations, a lot of conversation about, oh, what if Russia had a team? Oh, well, Russia doesn't have a team. And, you know, Colby Cohn was mentioning this in various articles going around about, you know, whether the IHF is being pressured or pressuring the IOC to allow Russia to compete in ice hockey at the Olympics. Now, I'm not saying that Russia won't be competitive. Like there are two positions specifically

where Russia is elite, capital E elite. One of those is in net, like take your pick who's starting is it Shish-Turkin? Is it Sorokin is it Bobrovsky etc etc etc discuss amongst yourselves on the wing? Take your pick you want to talk about murderers row Kucherov Panarin Ovechkin Capri's off Svetlanov, Natchushkin March Marchenko. Like it just goes on and on and on. The problem that you see is down the middle and across the blue line. If the tournament started today,

Yevgeny Malkin's your number one center. Vlad Nemestokov is probably number two. You get to players like Dmitry Voronkov, who hasn't played center, I don't believe he's played center once this year for Columbus. He played last year and then you get to like Philip Kurashev, like down the middle, major hole. And on the blue line, on the blue line,

you're looking at Dmitry Orlov, Vladislav Gavrikov, Ivan Provarov, Mikhail Sergeyev, Nikita Zadorov, Dimitri Kulikov, Pavel Minchikov, Artem Zub, Alexander Romanov, Yegor Zamula, Ilya Lebushkin. Do you see where I'm going with this one? Zach, that is not exactly the USA slash Canada slash Sweden blue line. By any stretch of the imagination. That's all I'm saying. Again, I just don't think that Russia stacks up against Canada or the United States at an international tournament. On the wing, amazing. In net, fantastic.

Down the middle and on the blue line? Question marks. Okay, so quickly here, and we'll wrap this up. But I was trying to explain this to somebody when four nations was going on, because they were asking, oh, it's an NHL event, like trying to tell them, yes, and then, well, how would different would it be then when you go to the Olympics? And like, okay, well, you know, Canada and US, they're probably not the same roster, but Russia and so Finland, maybe or Sweden, maybe they have a couple of guys who come from other leagues.

How would you kind of describe the players? This is a weird question to ask you. I didn't prepare you for this. So sorry, but how would you kind of like describe the players, the difference in the quality that you're going to get from the KHL players, let's say they fill some of those spots with centermen, to like some of the pieces that you already have, I want to say pre-existing Russian players in the NHL who are playing center. First of all, to me that's part of the draw.

That's part of the draw of Olympics and like international competition or the world championships. The players you don't get a chance to see who can have like an incredible two weeks and it'll never you know doesn't translate in the NHL like for the longest time we'd always say like you know Morozov was the best player not in the in the NHL but for all of those guys there's like your various busts that you think are going to work out but in an international tournament just could be fantastic and parlay it into an NHL contract. But the drop off is pretty big

between the KHL and the NHL. Like, well, just to be blunt, it's big, right? We're talking about, and this is not to slag the KHL at all, but like, nothing's close to the NHL. It's the best. It's the best. Yep. It's the finest and what we just saw in the Four Nations as the guys are going as hard as they can, like good luck. Good luck. Like players from the from from the KHL, you're not you're not at that level. You're just not. And I don't think... Yeah, I

think it's fair. And I don't think that it's gonna be Russia in ice hockey. Come next time around. Anyhow, did we actually clean everything up today? Did we actually do everything that we said we were going to do? Did we actually fulfill our promise of performance that we laid out at the beginning of the program today? Yep, we got all the emails in there. We talked about Brady Kachuk.

We talked about Seth Jones. Sorelli came on. Rosie came on. We're pretty dialed today here. We've got some bonus topics in there I think. Feeling good about myself. Alright, feeling good about the show today. Pat yourself on the back.

Alright, Bear Horowitz style. The dated reference. Did you look up Johnny Lydon by the way? Yeah, I don't know. Very Horowitz style. The dated reference. Did you look up Johnny Lydon? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I did. You're looking fella, hey? All right, that's enough. We'll wrap it up. On the program tomorrow, I can promote exactly On the program tomorrow, I can promote exactly nothing. Because as of right now, we did everything we planned to do today. So Zach and I, once he gets off the ice tonight, Pavel Barber, start from scratch.

Blank sheet, tabla rasa. And we'll start promoting it tomorrow morning. Thanks to everyone who joined the program today. Thanks to Anthony Cirelli and the Tampa Bay Lightning for making him available. Thanks to Jay Rosehill from Leaps Morning Take. And also, oh, should remind you as well, DFO trade deadline, that's the one thing we forgot.

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Zach, good luck against Pavel Barber. Set up your camera at an appropriate place because I wanna see how bad a hockey player you've gotten since your carefree Halcyon days of playing U18 with the Markham Waxers under the tutelage of former NHL-er, the great Dan Daou. I'm going Patrice Bergeron on Zay Copetar. We shall see.

All right. Thanks for joining. We're back tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of your evening. We shall see. We shall see. Alright. Thanks for joining. We're back tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of your day. I lost all ambitions day to day Guess I can call it a ride I went to the dark man He tried to give me a little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine I'm not against those methods but I knew

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