The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Sharks, Larry Brooks, and Shocking Performers ft. Greg Wyshynski & Drew Remenda

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Jeff Marek and Greg Wyshynski kick off today’s episode of The Sheet with some classic producer chirps before diving into a surprisingly heated debate about neckties, promos, and the NHL’s overtime and shootout structure. The guys get into whether the league should bring back ties, how a 3-point win system would reshape the standings, and why coaches see shootouts so differently before and after a game.From there, they shift into a heartfelt and detailed tribute to the late Larry Brooks — sharing stories, reflecting on his influence across the NHL media landscape, and discussing his mentorship, legacy, and Hall of Fame case. Jeff and Greg then take a wider look at the NHL’s uneven start to the season, including whether the league feels “mediocre,” the Devils–Blackhawks matchup, and how Connor Bedard is handling the early spotlight.Drew Remenda joins the show to bring his trademark storytelling, breaking down Macklin Celebrini’s emergence, Will Smith’s impact, the Sharks’ surprising confidence, and whether San Jose might actually have a playoff path. They get into Celebrini’s habits, confidence, and maturity, plus the now-iconic Judy Jupiter moment. Remenda also delivers some all-time Joe Thornton stories — including pies to the face, leadership dynamics, and why Thornton is a lock for the Hockey Hall of Fame.Jeff and Greg wrap by hitting Wyshynski’s latest column on shocking early-season NHL performances, from Marco Kasper’s struggles to Sam Montembeault’s perception in Montreal, and where patience is needed across the league’s youngest stars.SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼Bauer: https://www.bauer.com/👍🏼Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ca👍🏼Prime Video: https://primevideo-row.pxf.io/c/5560083/3303015/20020Reach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I don't like to be that guy, Greg Roshanski, that does the, hey, let's beat up on the producer and make it a bit on our show. I've always felt that that was lazy. And producers do a lot. Like, they have the nerve to keep this thing afloat and do a lot of the heavy lifting that we don't want to do and stay up to all hours and do the unsex and stuff. Like, it's really important. Actually, as a quick aside. about the industry. The one place where radio,

specifically sports talk, has always fallen down, is they don't pay their producers enough. And that's why you get the productions that you do in sports radio. And that's why I can't speak to the United States, but specifically in Canada, things have really fallen apart.

That is for a different show, though. But, Philly. No, things have fallen apart here in America as well. I can tell you from first-hand experience, that things have definitely fallen apart here in America. Oh, okay. I was, I was unaware. I stay in my own.

own little... And also the radio production. My own snow globe. Oh, okay. I'll get out on my snow globe here and sort of look around. What's going on me? Let me have a peek on that meme where you walk in with the pizzas. Let's see what's happening with our neighbors to the south here.

What was I talking about? Oh, yeah, Zach. So Philly's going to be like such a star in this industry one day. And I really mean that legitimately, but not if he pulls stunts like this. I just want to know the backstory on something. So every day, Philly puts out the promo for the show. And today, it's, you know, it's MVSW time. So there's Greg, and there's a quick little bio

and a couple of points I'm going to talk about. We're going to talk about the late Larry Brooks here in a couple of seconds. But he also puts on, as our man, NHL Ties used to refer to him, tie 99, in reference to the Wang Gretzky of Ties, Drew Amenda. So under Drew Amanda, it says, Sharks Broadcaster, Drew. Celebrini, Smith, and more. We will talk about those things with Drew. Sharks start to the year.

I would have chosen season, but now we're really sort of quick. bling here. It's not a year. It's a season, but I digress. And then joins us at 1.30. Now, above that, he has a descriptor of what's going to go on on the show. And he says, then Drew Remenda joins to talk sharks and elite, wait for it, neckties, as opposed to ties. Right. Slot versus slot area.

Go, come on. That's not the same. He could be talking about zip ties. He could be talking about ties when we used to have them in overtime back in the 1980s. No, okay. He could be talked about the classic sitcom family ties with Tina Youngers. He could be talking about any number of things.

Michael J. Fox on that one too. Philly, did you say neckties because you thought people might confuse you. use it with actual ties is that way i mean honestly like did that go did that was that like a speed bump in your brain when you wrote this that this morning okay usually when i write these i'm trying to think of every situation that somebody could have a kickback on where they could like chirp at us or be like oh very oh wow way to say ties in this one where we're talking about zero zero and billy smith back like no we're not doing that we're talking about ties so i was like Let's avoid this, and let's clarify neckties.

The first thing Jeff says to me when we sit down before the show, neckties. Why'd you put neckties? That's how petty. That's how petty. I don't want to say that that's how petty I've become. I want to say that that's how petty I've always been. That feels more comfortable. Anywho, I understand how he did it.

I just wonder if like the origin. and story behind why he put neckties. And I do wonder if he's going to call it ice hockey from now on. I think I think your point sticking, though, because neckties is a very sort of archaic descriptor, but I think it does come from like the 50s and 60s, you know, go get dad a necktie for Father's Day. But why did they refer to it as a necktie? What were they differentiating it from back in like the 1950s?

They had ties in sports. Maybe. I don't know. No, I don't. I don't, but they used to have – you know, I was having an interesting conversation with someone yesterday morning about ties and about the shootout and about the extra point, which has kept things so lovely in the NHL right now where we only have – I believe when I checked yesterday, I haven't looked today, was five teams that are under 500 in a 32-team universe. We should say NHL 500, not actual 500, but I digress. And the point that I was trying to make about ties was, I don't know about you, Greg, or anyone watching and listening right now, are there not some games that you watch and you say, nobody deserves to win this? Like, this should be a tie.

Like, both these teams, like, neither team really deserve to win this game. Let's call this one a tie. Like, we've all had that experience, right? That's not unique to my P-Brain here, right? No, yeah, no, I agree. I was just checking out the stats, by the way. So we have, as of last night, 268 games played. 74 of them have gone past regulation.

51 of the 74 have been decided in the three-on-three before this shootout. That's 69% let's round up of the games that go to overtime or decided in the three-on-three. That's a little bit down from last season. But honestly, since the 2021-22 season, Merrick, we have been around 69 to 72 percent. of the over of the games that go to overtime are settled in the three on three versus the shootout which is holding steady and a better percentage that we had uh even 10 years ago now let me let me talk about the charity point for a second because i've been thinking about this too um because there are certainly some teams that are benefiting from it at this point in the

season i am as you know a three to one man give me three points for regulation win give me two points for an overtime or shootout win but as part of that philosophy we got to have the charity point. Now, there is a part of me that would love just wins and losses. Let's clean up the NHL standings so they don't look like you're looking at the matrix. You know, let's make it simple, right? Yeah. But as a kid who grew up in the 80s with, you know, a very much smaller league, but also tie games,

I recognize the achievement of finishing regulation in a tie. If I'm going to give extra credit to the teams that win in regulation, I have to give some credit beyond the opportunity to salvage two points for playing your team to a stalemate through 60 minutes of actual hockey. So I've come around philosophically on the charity point that if I'm going to be in favor of the three point regulation, which I am very in favor of, then I have to be in favor of somebody getting a little something for the effort for tying a team through 60 minutes. You and I have talked plenty about the shootout and the value of the shootout. And, okay, granted, there does have to be some type of mechanism for a tiebreaker that both the NHL and the NHL Players Association, let's not forget about them, can agree upon because these players cannot be expected to play an extra 15 minutes of three on three on a regular basis. But hold on a second here. I think one of the issues is it feels like a letdown way to decide the game

when you do the shootout at the end which you may look at and say well that should be the natural conclusion of a game if you can do a tiebreaker dummy you do it after you do the five on five and then you do the three on three. Oh, this isn't the dumb thing I think you're going to say. Before the game.

God, I hate that. And here's another reason why. Here's one more reason why. Okay, there's the establishing the tiebreaker, but the other one, and this is where you know, the GM wants something and the president wants something. This is where both sides can sort of have what they want.

You get people in the arena on time and you probably get them there early so they can start to buy things and they can start to drink things. Do you understand why people don't get to the arena on time? It's not because they're dilly-dallying and they just don't want

to like have to see the player introductions because they're stuck in freaking traffic. They have kids. They're getting kids out of school. the reason people don't arrive on time and by the way where's this punctuality on a podcast that starts three minutes late

every single time we do it maybe we need to do a shootout we need to do a shootout before the show that's why we do shootout before the show the thing about the shootout before games and this is something I've heard people talk about is do you like the idea of the sword of Damocles dangling

over the head of one of these teams during the game knowing that they're that they're going to lose if they don't win in like regulation or overtime? Because the tiebreaker has already been set, yes. That way, that way you'll go home feeling at least as if it wasn't decided by a shootout. It was decided five on five or considering it's going to be the sort of Damocles six on five because you're going to have a tie game and one team is going to pull the netminder. Even as somebody who finds the shootout boring and deflating, I still take it over this.

I still acknowledge that holding it at the end of the game, gives the game a sense of finality. It gives you a sense of either catharsis or frustration because your team either won or lost. Like I do understand from an animalistic standpoint why we would have this at the end of the game versus the beginning of the game. I don't like that idea at all. I have to be honest with you.

Here's why I like it. Because you might as well just start the game with a possession arrow or a coin flip to see which team has the advantage at the end. And if the other team doesn't win in regulation or the overtime, then they get screwed. Here's why I like it to. You ready for this one? There's something we carry with us every single day, and that is the ever-present sometimes existing in the shadows,

never to be talked about in polite society, reality that death will greet us all one day. And we carry that our entire lives, Greg Wyshinsky. And if one team has a tiebreaker set before them, they carry with them throughout the entire 60 minutes and then the three-on-three, the knowledge that if things don't change, it ends for them. I'm always looking to draw metaphors between life and hockey, and that's one of them for me.

I don't have the Bergman-esque existentialism that you have about the shootout, but I will say that there is a part of your argument that I like because that's what I apply to the three-point regulation win. To me, the idea that you have a late season game between two teams in the same division and one of those teams is chasing the other. And one of those teams knows that with a regulation win, you could give the other team a goose egg in the standings whilst you earn three points against them. I think makes that's what that's the carrot that I'm looking for. Like you want the carrot of we know who the shootout winner is already. I want the carrot of I can limit my opponent to getting no points and also get an extra point for winning if it's a three point regulation win. all right um this conversation will never end uh until things change after the 60 minutes so let's move along and remind you the blueprint uh which is what's coming up on the program today which we've already started 13 minutes ago is powered by fanduel uh download the app today and play your game at fanduel it is thursday that means it's mvsw time uh with the one and only greg wasinski from espn and espn dot com also uh we'll talk plenty about the passing of larry brooks uh we'll talk about some of the shocking

performers around the NHL. We will talk to the great Drew Remenda. No one does a tie better than Drew Remenda. I don't care whatever sport you're talking about. Tie 99, Pat Manager from Seattle. What kind of tie? The former NHL ties. Well, of course, that would be ties that

go around your collar. Of course, we're talking about neck ties. A lot of rue tie-dye, Zach, is what we're talking about. Yes. Clearly. Which led us into a robust discussion about the shootout. Okay. Terrible news to wake up to this morning,

the passing of Larry Brooks of the New York Post. I first got to meet Larry and talk to Larry. Jesus was probably 2001, maybe 2000. I think when I really started to dig into this part of my career. And then that really hit its zenith when I would have him on the show that I did with Bull Waters, Leaves Lunch during the lockout of 0405, where Larry Brooks was very much a proponent and supporter of the player's side of that lockout and was, in a lot of ways, a thorn in the side of the national hockey league, something that he always, I think, cherished and relished.

I think he always enjoyed being that the guy taking a swing at the pinata. Anyhow, Slapshots was a must read. one of the most influential hockey writers of this or any other generation an honored member at the Hockey Hall of Fame your thoughts on the passing

of Larry Brooks and listen it's tough it's tough not to say the name and not think of the John Tortorella exchange so many years ago as well but your thoughts on the passing

of Larry Brooks. Do we have that by the way, Zach? The torts exchange with do we have it? You should ask him. I guess that's what I'm saying, Brooksie. You get that's where you hit?

I guess so. Yeah. And it's time to waste the time. Well, then get the fuck out of here then. Okay, see you. Next question. Larry, just standing in there with Taurus, just dragging it out of him. And I have been in that, I've been in scrums where that is happening.

I was in a scrum on clean-out. day for the Rangers one year where Dan Boyle refused to talk to anybody in the media if Larry was in the room. He was that upset at Brooks. Like, he brings that out of people. So, okay, so let's start with the fact that I grew up reading him, which is not something that I can say about a lot of hockey writers because I grew up in New Jersey. My access to hockey writing at the time was the New York newspapers.

and that'd be like Frank Brown that would be Rick Scherer at the Star Ledger and that'd be Larry Brooks and Brooks was a guy who for the better part of 40 years wrote a column in the New York Post and wrote stories about the New York Rangers

and was the voice probably the most important voice in New York hockey and you know it's a crowded market with a lot of sports and as hockey fans we've got it kind of like scratching claw to find information and to get our news to us back in the day and Brooks's column every Sunday was was an island you know it was an oasis it was a chance for us to to experience the kind of hockey writing and the kind of like rumors and innuendo and insight and hot takery that you'd probably find in Canada growing up

to become a blogger and an online columnist uh Brooks and I had our her battles, man. I'm not going to lie. I've told the story before about how there was one year where he, in the span of like a week, argued against fighting in hockey and then argued that the Rangers needed an enforcer. And I called him out on it. And then a month later, I saw him on Press Row at a Capitals game. And I was saying hi to all the New York writers that were coming to D.C. to cover the Rangers and Capitals. And I got Larry. I'm like, good to see you, Larry. And without looking at me, he just goes, go, F yourself. Only he didn't say F. And then he repeated it. And that is part and parcel of

kind of love-hate relationship we had with each other, but also the kind of guy that he was. And I've come to realize that there are certain people in life to which you have to admit that is an endearing thing that they've said to you. They cared enough to say it, I think would be the way I would phrase it. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Is it safe to say that if Larry Brooks told me, you to go after yourself you shouldn't feel special you you shouldn't feel special i think he's probably said that a lot yeah but you know here here's the thing about him um i think that we all have heat with people in our lives right i think the heat that i had with larry eventually got turned down a bit i'd like to say that we had an understanding about each other

in in the fact that we tactically do this job in different ways and and certainly believe in different things um but maybe there was an acknowledgement at the end that uh we both make life interesting and that's the thing i was thinking about a lot with larry today is that um i didn't always agree with what he wrote and i didn't always agree with how he wrote it but the world was such a much more interesting place with him than it's the best compliment i could pay somebody like you made you were such a unique one-of-one guy yeah and your your outlook was so unique the things you wrote like merrick said like this guy was basically the voice of the NHLPA in a lot of ways at a time when the NHL crushes that sometimes with the amount

of media attention they get and the amount of outlets that they have to get their message out. He was an unique guy. And the other thing about him, too, that I was thinking about today, two things real quick. First of all, incredible mentor, not only to our friend Molly Walker, who I know was extremely close to him, but also he was a guy that reached out to my friend Emily Kaplan a lot to check on her in her career. Like, he's a guy that really supported young writers, in particular young female writers.

And the other thing about him, too, is that I think he was uniquely a newspaper guy. I know that we could get slap shots online. I know we can go to the New York Post. We all have to then click the, no, I don't want to block ads on this site to then read something that's inevitably paywalled anyway. We've all gone to the New York Post and experienced this.

But it was, he was never a guy that was like, I mean, he had a podcast and such, but he was never a guy that I felt like was writing for the web. You know, he was a guy that was writing, so you're on the subway and you open up the New York Post and you're seeing his byline in his picture, and you're consuming that column in the way it should be consumed. Everybody in New York read, all hockey fans read Slapshots. And like everybody, every Sunday gobbled this one up.

I'm trying to think about this this afternoon. Like, who could I compare Larry too? And the person that I keep coming back to is Redfisher of the Montreal Gazette, who, was incredibly powerful, and his word carried such weight to the point where there's a story where the Maple Leafs were trying to trade Wendell Clark and Gary Lehman to Montreal. Shane Corson was one of the pieces coming back, and there was one more, and apparently Red Fisher caught wind of it, and called Serd-Savard and said, if you make this deal, I will run you out of town.

Oh, my God. And Savard never made the deal. After getting that sort of that, that threat from, from Red Fisher. Now, he may have been in his time the most powerful of all hockey writers. You know, there used to be the old joke, like Montreal has always had two general managers, whoever actually is getting paid for it and Red Fisher. That's who ran the Montreal Canadiens. And, you know, in his height and added the height of his powers, I always got the sense.

that in the back of everybody's mind with the New York Rangers there's always that before you make a move what is Larry going to say about this what is Larry going to write about it he may not have wielded that sword the way that Red Fisher did

but he was at a level where you always say to yourself okay one of the conversations we need to have here group is how is Larry at the post going to react to this and I think that is one of the biggest compliments you could pay too

especially because he had such incredible sourcing within the Rangers organization, you know, going all the way up the ladder. Not everybody has that. Not everybody can get that. And so one of the things I always liked about him is when you were in the Rangers locker room, he was so ingrained in that organization and put in so much time with that organization that he could just sit next to Chris Kreider and talk to him for 20 minutes. Now, it's not a scrum. We're not coming over to talk to him. We understood that is Larry's time to talk to the players. And that was the kind of relationship he had with guys.

Two other things real quick. First of all, professional hockey writers association, we have a lot of meetings. A lot of the time, the meetings are held without anybody saying anything. You could always count on Larry Brooks to be the guy to say, this is dumb. Why are we doing this? Shouldn't we think this? And sometimes he's right and sometimes he's wrong, but it's always good to have somebody that does that. And in the end, I think he made the organization a lot better because of his opinions and because of the change he tried to enact.

And, you know, like I said, I can't, I will make a culp of something here in the sense that I often thought about Larry and the way he wrote. And it didn't strike me as him being Hall of Fameworthy. It's something that I think I've written. It's something I've probably said. But in thinking about it today posthumously, I get it now. I was wrong. I think I was looking at the delivery of his journalism versus what he represented and the impact that he had on others and the impact that he had in the industry

and certainly the impact that he had on hockey in New York. I definitely, in hindsight, I think I was really short-sighted on his career, which by the way spans all the way back to 1988 when he was the director of communications for the New Jersey Devils and you can see Larry Brooks in the video of Jim Schoenfeld and Don Boarsky with the fat donut

he's in the video like I think I'm really interested the amount of impact that he had in the industry and I think he's very worthy of the Hall of Fame monitor that he got I was wrong with that one what I thought was honestly to bluntly like just beautiful to

watch was the was the relationship that he had with with colleague molly walker you mentioned her yeah and emily a couple of seconds ago that was to me was one of those beautiful things in our industry that i've seen unfold in the last in the last few years like that relationship the mentor mentee type relationship and how much of an of an active interest like real significant interest he took in helping molly walker take steps in his career there are a lot of people that in our industry that you've heard the old expression, you know, get to the top and kick the ladder down. Like that was the opposite of Larry.

And the other thing about this industry, too, and this is why, you know, there are some people that get sort of, you know, frustrated by it because it's very demanding and there's a lot of travel. There's a lot of late nights and there's a lot of missing things with your family because of the realities of covering this sport where the season is so long. And now it seems like the season never ends. And it's even more challenging to be a proper parent. it, a lot of people get hardened by the end, right? And they get frustrated by it and they end up

hating the thing that gave them their livelihood. You see it all the time, right? I'm sure, like, as I say this, Greg, and anyone watching or listening is having the same, like, yeah, this person, that person, they hate what they're doing, but it's all they know how to do and they can't get out of it and they hate it because it's left a sort of a broken trail of kids here and kids there and this is my third wife or this is my second husband. It's really, really hard not to hate the thing that you're covering and say this is responsible for what's happened to me in my life. But watching Larry Brooks helping to mentor the brilliant Molly Walker through this stage of her career, I would always say to myself, like, how great would it be if everyone

starting in this industry had that? Because the idea of mentorship in media right now, it does not exist. It doesn't exist at all. It's like you're the little baby Robin that's been dropped out of the nest and it's all right fly because they're coming for you because you're like looking over your shoulder more than than anything else right like you said you're kicking the ladder out yeah and and the other thing too about larry is that i mean he loved what he did he loved stirring the shit he loved asking the tough questions like i mean that that's part of the reason he was able to do that for molly and others is because he himself maybe yeah he got sick of the grind we all do but he didn't get sick of the beat he didn't get sick of the job he didn't

gets sick of the platform. And that was evident through his final days when he was still tweeting and writing, man. Our condolences to the family and the friends of Larry Burns. Geez, I don't know how you pivot to something from hockey before you bring on Drew Remenda here in a couple of moments, but anything to jump out at you from last night of the last couple of days around the NHL.

Other than, you know, someone asked me a question this morning and said, is this the most mediocre, is this the most mediocre looking NHL that we've seen in a while? Again, we're only on November 13th. What does that even mean? It means that the reason Colorado looks so great is because everyone around the Colorado Avalanche just looks so average. Like the abs are the standout right now.

The reason why somebody would, say that is because all of the teams that have been good over the last several seasons outside of Colorado are kind of like stumbling and bumbling a little bit. It's hard to really say that the NHL's at peak performance when the lightning looked the way they did last night against the Rangers or you know you have the oilers up and down or in Florida being a broken team. A lot of that has to do with injuries obviously for some of these teams. But it does feel like a little bit of an upside down league. It's hard to say the NHL is at its peak right now when you have teams that literally didn't exist three years ago challenging for a playoff spot like the mammoth are um

the thing i took away last night was i watched i watched the devil's chicago game uh see him on nemage away what it's who needs queen hughes you don't need queen hues you don't need him in vancouver keep them in vancouver you don't need them a haddy for nemitch last night and like i had watched a full game of badard uh in a bit he's kind of like jack now in the sense that every time he touches the puck there's a little bit of panic in the defensive zone now and he's controlling it and doing things and looking for opportunities and creating it's exciting to see like the maturation and gretzky pointed this out last night on tn t as well he's as has anyone had an exponential size jump like bernard year to year he's so much

bigger now than he was like even a year and a half ago he's he's thicker like he's stronger He's always had like the calves and the quads and the forearms. Yeah, but now he's like Tarasenko out there. It's crazy. Like, what is happening? Well, here we're going to talk about someone who's always been and probably always will be compared to Conradard. And that's Macklin Celebrini. Here to talk about McLehlin Celebrini, the San Jose sharks and how you get the dimple on the tie because nobody does it better than tie 99.

Our man, Drew Remenda. Drew. Where's, I'm like, okay, Drew, I'm going to give you five minutes if you want to go and throw on a tie really quickly. like five minutes off the top of the show big enough like how you're tie 99. You're Thai Gretzky. You don't, but you know as well as I do. You don't put it on until you've got to put it on.

You don't go wasting, you don't go wasting your talents for a for a shitting game, right? That's what we are. Right, Shini Game, I love it. Oh, true. You're the best, buddy. It is, first of all, so good to see again. So good to hear your voice.

Good to see you, Bell. Just a quick, a quick reminiscing back in the, the OG days of MVSW. And we used to talk about how, you know, the sharks, you know, broadcast, you know, the Cadillac of all of it. And that turned into this website by someone who I've become like really good friends with a guy from Seattle by the name of Patrick manager who used to judge the ties every night. And you were called tie 99,

which is the ultimate compliment. You are the Wayne Gretzky of ties. Okay. I got to ask you, because I was sort of on my own figuring out how to do a tie. Did you ever have that, like, son, I'm going to show you how to do a tie. Now, this is a Windsor. Did you have that?

Or did you figure it out on your own? No, I had it for my dad, Bill Remendez, who was a goalie in the old Western League, played with Freddie Sasakamous and a few others way back in the day of Brad McCriman's dad, Brad and Kelly McCrimman's dad. So dad was an electrician. He was also an umpire. He was also a goaltender. and he also he had four children by the time he was 23 he and my mother and he also worked at the

Hudson Bay Company in the clothing department wow there you go yeah and one day he taught me to tie a tie and my father was old school he was a big fan of spare the rod spoil the child type of thinking and he um he made me get it right and after that I you know i i watched a lot of james bond growing up seriously seriously so pretty said that and and really pierce brosden was the one that kind of threw it over the top and he said okay that's how you got to do it and that's so i have a lot of what people may not know and i i know this we're going to be about maclin but i have the ability to tie a tie i have the ability to iron like nobody you've ever met in your life and shine shoes.

I have those three, those three qualities, and then pretty much nothing else. Well, you know, here are my three qualities. I can say, that's a bad pass. I think that's offside, and we'll be right back. That's what I have. Those three things. I got to tell I got. I fancy myself a pretty good ironer too, Drew, but I got to admit, my wife turned me on

to this spray, this wrinkle spray that you can use. Downy, Downy Rinkle Spray. Yeah, the Downy Rinkle Spray that literally magically gets wrinkles out of clothes if you just flatten it out. And I'm just drenching all my shit in it now. Like, I don't think I've ripped out an ironing board in my house in like a year.

And I'm probably dying slowly. I don't know what's in this thing. But it's been really nice to not have to iron. I do both. I have it on the ironing board. I use the wrinkle spray and then I iron over it. Listen, I could get into a lot of my O.C. and absolute complete annoyances of that I have in my life.

But I think, like, I wear them proudly. Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, before we get to celebrate the rest of the sharks, that between the legs, the past between the legs on the Colin Grafcold the other night. We're going to get, we're going to get there, Drew, don't worry. One final thing. Have you ever had a player ask you, how do you get your, how do you get your knot like that?

Oh, I have everybody ask me how I get my knot like that. Everybody asks me. some guys just some guys just say like my career my career is the one that the sharks you have I go say hi to him for every game and beside his office and he just does this

yep again and that's it you go Greg this is awesome oh I got no but it's good like if you could I'd be known for one thing man come on it's elite ties shoot let me let's let's let's let's

Let's get on the Celebrini tip, because this is the kid we want to know about. You know, listen, he's been on this trajectory now. We kind of knew that he was going to be the player that he's been this season, but I don't think we necessarily thought he'd have the point total this season. Do you see anything in particular year over year about Macklin that's enabled him to get off to the start? This is so cliche to say, but it's absolutely true. It is the fact of he's first on the ice,

last off the ice he continues to try to be as good as he can be all the time he is a guy that um when you look at his game and you um i think i lost you guys no we're here we're here you got oh yeah okay sorry yeah yeah yeah got you when you look at when you look at his game it freaked me out when they did the split screen and now i lost it was such an old man we're trying to spot you're trying to spotlight We're trying to spotlight your wallpaper, man. I'm at the hotel in Calgary. Oh, man, I was going to say, it looks like an Airbnb or something. You should see some of the artwork.

Do you hang on, hang on, is that a picture of Oscar Wild on the wall? Yes, yeah, yeah. Oscar Wild. Now, it was always, I don't know if this is true. Not my favorite line by Oscar Wilde, and if it's not true, I want to make it true, apparently on his deathbed, Oscar Wilde's final words were, well either I go either these drapes go or I go

and that was he might say the same about the wallpaper he might say the podcast with that wallpaper in a photo of Oscar Wild officially makes us the campiest episode of the sheet that's ever existed this is so good

talking about ties are not your name are you talking about ties wow people are going who the is this guy talking this

is a show just to amuse me and Greg. Like, honestly, like, we're just going to, like, we're just going to mark out and getting a chance to talk to Drew again and just, like, have our own fun. Well, let me ask another, another facet of the macro question, which is how much has the maturation of Will Smith led to the season that he's having? Well, I might argue with the maturation of Will Smith just as far as. Hockey wise. Okay, hockey wise.

You know, I asked, I asked both of them this. I'm back-to-back games because I'm not very original. I asked Macklin, I said, how much does that chemistry and relationship you have with Will transfer to the ice? And Macklin gave me the usual type of, and Will was a little bit better, but not much. I mean, if you're interviewing those two guys, you better have about 20 questions ready for a minute and a half interview because they're very, they're kids, right? And then I asked Will the same thing, and he said, has everything to do with it. So I'll give you a little thing about their, it's well documented. So, you know, everybody plays soccer before the games, right?

Yeah. Guys go play soccer and play that, keep the ball in the air type of thing. Well, Will and Matlin go just with themselves, and they go completely opposite. And it's just outside our broadcasting office door at SAP Center. and they would just all they would do is just kick the ball as hard as they could at each other or anybody else or the door of our of our broadcast office and there's been more than one occasion and it just makes it's so loud and there's been more than one occasion that the old band comes out and opens the door

and looks really and then they start digging and go what what what's matter what happened Did you hear something? No, you stop. Do I have to call your parents? Knock it off. I go, yeah. I know sooner close the door and then another one racks right off of that door, right? Of course.

They've broken ceiling tiles. But this year it's football. Now they're throwing the ball at each other as hard as they can and see if they can catch it. And when they do, I'll be out there every once in a hour watching. And when they do, like Will Smith, we'll grab it and look at me and go, can't teach that. Can't teach that. They're fantastic. as far as that energy that they have.

It's silliness, but it's a vibe that brings so much energy to the team. And that relationship they have is so real, and then you can see it on the ice. But Will's game has really picked up. Like Will's a thinker, man, the overtime goal, we had was a great pass. But on that play, Will's jumping in to help on the forechecky falls. You get to actually a little nudge falls, gets back up. and backtracks like crazy with Sam Dickinson, stops a two-on-one,

and then after the Sharks gained possession, he makes the change, and then Graff comes on. So I think that the Will and Maclin thing is, yes, it's great chemistry on the ice, but off the ice, it's as real as it gets. So I think they're, it's, you know, people are making comparisons all the time, but I can't compare them to anybody else

that I've seen with San Jose, and we've had some pretty darn good players. It's been so much fun. And that passed to Colin Graffleman. I thought about, I'll tell you who I thought about. I thought about a conversation I had with Jordan Eberley. And we were talking about his first goal. And as we can all remember, this Edmonton versus Calgary, right?

It's the one where he dangles everybody, joc straps are spinning, water bottles are popping. He's deacon everybody out. And this is a few years ago at the NHL Media Tour. And he said, yeah, but you know what? if I was in the same position right now this is how old I am this is the difference right now I'd shoot far pad for the rebound

I wouldn't even think about and I was watching Celebrini make that play and I'm like I really hope he doesn't get to the point where he's just going to go and it's too risky to make that pass between the legs to get at the Cullen Graph I'm just going to shoot Farpad and shoot for the rebound I just hope

that that never happens to Macklin Celebrini that always will watch the highlight here that he always thinks, I'm going to make this miracle play between the legs of, I think it was Jonas Brodine. Do you have any idea? Is that always going to be him?

That's always going to be him. You're absolutely right. That's always going to be him. He knows he's a playmaker. He knows he can or well, nine times out of ten or eight times out of ten or seven times out of ten, he's going to make that play.

You don't worry about the other three times. He's like, okay, whatever. Make, you do what you do. and like Peter DeBore when Peter DeBore would be at coaching clinics I'd always watch Peter DeBore's stuff with coaching clinics and he always would talk about from a coaching point of view I can help you get the puck out of the zone

I can even help you get the puck into the zone but once you're in the zone I'm paraphrasing once you're in the zone that's you know that's the stuff that you do and Macklin you don't even need to help him from one zone to the next he just takes over everything that I don't think he can

do it any other way he's so driven in the way that he attacks the game when he gets the puck he's thinking i'm attacking i'm attacking i'm attacking and every once in a while you have to remind yourself this is a 19 year old kid he's not going to turn 20 until june next year's wild or is it july might be july um but he's his game is nothing more than just i can do that I'm going to go do that. I'm going to attack this guy one-on-one. I can make that pass between the legs. I can make that pass to Will Smith for a one-timer.

I can go with the behind-the-back place because he's damn good. And part of that, too, like the theory behind that is look at the people he's grown up around. Like all those like super high-end athletes of like, you know, like all of them are like, I can do that. I can do that. I can do that. Right? Like it's like second nature, I'm sure, to Celebrini because he didn't have to all of a sudden discover that he had that ability. He just assumed mental, let me talk about somebody of the mental game.

He just automatically assumed that I can do that because I've grown up around these other guys who think they can do that as well. You know, we're talking about second generation players and different advantages. Growing up in that environment around superstar elite level athletes, like it's impossible for that not to bleed into your sports brain. His dad, his dad, and people don't know, Rick, played for the. the Vancouver Whitecaps, or he said 86ers, sorry. And then, you know, became this sports performance guru. And Aden, his brother and R.J., they're both really good hockey players. I think Charlie is a sister's name.

She's a wonderful junior tennis player, one like nationals, I do believe, in Canada. And that's the environment that he grew up in. And then, of course, you talk about, you know, Steph Curry and Draymond Green and all the guys that he watched, comes back to San Jose with his dad when his dad went to work for the Warriors, plays for the junior sharks. And with Macdon, it's really interesting, though, and this is what it always makes me laugh. And we kind of have a joke about it. If you want to get Maclin to not talk to you, ask him about himself. Ask him about what he's doing right now. And he'll shut you down quickly. The other day, I had the bench interview with him. And the last

question was, you know, those bench interviews are so riveting. Rather innocuous question, which was you're playing the Florida Panthers, two-time Stanley Cup champions, do you get up for this game maybe a little lecture? And he looked at me like side eye and went, no. So they're all good teams. And that was it. He didn't want to talk anymore. He doesn't want to talk about himself. He wants to talk about the team. And the other aspect about him is when you're watching when he's on the ice and then we of course we pan to the bench when he comes off the ice he automatically and i'm not a fan of it but he automatically turns and grabs the tablet and starts looking right because he wants to automatically

download that data again as quickly as he can so he goes out and tries and he's better next time you know john torturale used to say get those things off my bench but for the kids nowadays at 19 years old. No, honestly, for, for, like, listen, I, I get it. Like, part of me is that old school. Like, this is what I grew up with. Like, no, get the iPads off. And then I look at my kids.

You know what they learn from? iPads. All the time. Yeah, the only person that's able to get Macklin to open up is Judy Jupiter, the woman who accosted a man to that cafe in New York. No idea, right? So good. But you got these two kids, these two kids who are like, let's face it.

I mean, they're young, good. looking kids and and so they're sitting there in new york and they're having a nice day and relax this lady comes over and she starts in they didn't know who she was yeah and but they're i live here yeah yeah she they were so gracious and wonderful when she got mad or will to stand up into a spin it was like yeah it was a twirl honey oh if you haven't seen the video it tried did judy jupiter and macklin just searched out you find it yeah drew i wanted to ask you about the sharks window right now like yeah so the ducky's are leading the division they get clenville like a bunch of veterans all the kids are better like

carlson's on an absolute heater um the mammoth look good uh there's a few teams that are that have been percolating let's say that look like they're they're starting to move up the standings a little bit thank you i'm a writer sometimes uh what do you think the the window looks like what's the runway right now for the sharkies like how many years before they get to kind of where they can jump up and be at the bubble, or are they good enough now to do it? I guess is the question. You know, I've been in this league for a long time. And the one thing I've learned is that I'm not very smart

when it comes to managerial things and where teams are handed for. I don't know how Jeff knows, known me for a long time. And I think, I don't know how many times I told Jeff that the sharks are going to win the cup this year. I believed it every time, too. There's a bunch of years where that was extremely plausible. I was one of those guys a bit every year. I'll watch.

I'm going to dust the wings. Watch this. Yeah, no problem. No, this is, like that. There was one year. I was so convinced of it. I took a fucking pie to the face because they couldn't shut out the kings in the first film. So, yeah, but I'll say this because what Mike Greer has done,

like pie to the face. I'm just having to just having a moment for a second. One of them cut my nose. It was terrible. Well, how hard were they phoned in? Cry out loud. Hey, a couple of them really wound up. You get a chance to throw up to get a pie in Wyshinsky's face.

Like, you're not pulling your punch on that one. No, no, no, no. That's not light sparring. No, no, no. We're not just doing shoulders and knees. Like, we're going for it. No, no, no, no. I think it was Will Wheaton, like he was like he was Aaron Rogers throwing downfield.

He hit me with the pie and sliced my nose open with the pie tin. That 2014 series against L.A., the reverse sweep series, game, I was doing the NBC inside the glass stuff, and game three, he showed up, he's sitting next to me, and he's wearing a horse's head. I swear to you. I swear to you. I swear to you. Why not, right? I was like, okay. And actually, security actually came over and asked him to take it off after the first period. I don't know why, but I guess... Why? Maybe fans of the Godfather, I don't know. I don't know why.

Maybe he was obstructing the view of the person behind him that was like, I had to sit behind a forehead the entire time? I guess. All right. Can they make a playoffs this year? Yes or no? The way Asker Ruff is playing, the way that this team is playing, yes, they can make the playoffs. And I don't know if Mike's going to be happy me saying that,

because, you know, there's this thing in the NHR where you always want to temper expectations. I think tempering expectations is great. No. I think, you know, if you ask every player in that room right now today, can this team be a playoff team? They will tell you to a man. Yes, we can. And that's what you want. Now, coaches will take a little bit of back off that. And, of course, management will go, just hold on, we're building this. And they're doing a great job building. Mike and his staff have done a fantastic job. They had to tear it down and pay some inheritance tax, so to speak, by trading some guys away. but then they've been able to build and draft and do wonderful things.

And this team is fun to watch. They were fun last year to the end, as Randy Hahn, my partner said, I can't remember who he scored against and it was late in the game. And Randy, you went, ladies and gentlemen, you were watching the most exciting last place team in sports. And he's right. He's right. I would say this on the show last year.

I watched so many San Jose. Greg and I would talk about it. I watched so many San Jose Sharks games just because there's going to be a couple of times in the game where I go, wow, that's chaos. It's the peak in the future. So I look at it, I look at it, and I think, I think, Alex Wendberg said it after this last Seattle game. We believe in each other.

And that's a powerful thing. Belief system within your team is powerful. When I was assistant coach in that third year, we lost 71 games the year before. And then the next year, Kevin Constantine came in. I was the only guy that was held over from the coaching staff. And we went to work, but eventually the guys took over. And we didn't have to work anymore.

And at the end of it all, you know, we have a 58-point improvement, never been done before, hasn't been done since. We beat the Red Wings. We come within a crossbar, beaten Toronto. Johann Garpenloff. Johann Garpenloff. Was that the Urbe? The Urbe series?

Yes, yeah. That's why I don't like Mike Gartner to this day because that over time he scores a lousy goal from behind the goal line. Sorry, Mike Nartner or Sean Horkoff, but we talk about that later. But anyway, so we talked to Jamie Baker after that, and Jamie Baker's former Shark and broadcaster, great guy. And he said, you know, no offense, but it wasn't you guys after a while. It was each other.

We didn't want to, I didn't want to let Gaytown Dushan down or Jeff Rogers down or Igor down. We started playing for each other. He said, we had the belief system that if we did things right, play the right way, we were going to be good. We were going to be able to do these things. And so when Alex Winneberg said that to me, he said, we believe in each other in there. It kind of just rang the bell that they do believe in each other. And Vinny Day or Ney, loved Vinny Day or Ney. He said, we know who we are.

We know what we can be. So, yeah, I think if you ask the players and if you're asking a guy who's usually not very optimistic, I'd say, yeah, they can make it. I love it. We're heavy against the clock here, but I'd want to ask you one thing quickly. I hate to put like, okay, you've got like 30 seconds on this one, but like, Joe Thornton, all right?

So Joe Thornton finds his corner in the Hockey Hall of Fame, finally. When I say the name Joe Thornton, Drew Ramanda says what? Honest, real, from the heart, unabashedly, sentimental, wonderful family, and if you were part of it, Joe made sure you were part of it. If you were on the bus, you were on the plane, you were part of it.

You know what? There was, that early 70s Boston Bruins team used to have a rule. And it was no matter what, after every game, we all went out together and you had to stay for one beer. one after that go do whatever we stay for one beer

and then you then you can go he's the one guy that would always remind me of that and everybody goes and everybody goes that was that was very true when you were going out for dinner it wasn't just three guys here three guys there was let's go boys we're going and yeah

like I said but the best thing about him he is 100% authentic 100% true that was great to watch um and great to catch up with and I love that Oscar Wilde is over your right shoulder and you have some interesting wallpaper at your tastefully decorated room there in Calgary and...

Try to sleep. Try to sleep with that. Try to sleep with that over your head. With Oscar Wilde judging you as you try to sleep. Welcome to my life, guys. Everyone's judging. Again, these drapes go where I do. You'll be well. Thanks, Drew.

You're the best. Great talking you, my friends. It was a great Drew Remenda analyst for the San Jose Sharks. And one of my favorite people, oh, they always, with Drew, they always happen. I know. Andy Hahn and Drew Remendez, like, the best pair going away. talk to Drew. What do you think about the notion of the sharks as the playoff team this year?

I think it's, listen, 82 games is a lot, and especially for a young team and kids will hit the wall at different times. First of all, again, this is like my head says no, my heart says yes, and somewhere in between, like there's going to be, that's going to be the tug and one of those two is going to win. I don't think so, but it would be awesome. Put it this way. If the San Jose sharks make the playoffs this year, I still don't think that there's. they're at a place where they're okay now they're going to make the playoffs every single year

for the next 10 years yeah that's the thing if they do then awesome but don't treat it as a given like okay they made the playoffs i think it every every year they're kind of feel like they're at a point where like they're they're like okay the joists are are are in place the flooring is good you know we can go buy that couch now like i i feel like they're at a point where they can start to build around the core that they have knowing that it's solid, knowing in Celebrini they might have a Crosby-esque transformative player for their franchise, but I don't think they're good enough to make the playoffs, especially with the way that some of the teams in their division have trended. Like, I think the ducks are for real, and I think the Lop Cracken are for

real. And so I think there might be no room at the end for them in the Pacific at this point. We shall see. All right, a couple of things here. By the way, I'd somebody tell me about about Lane Lambert like the other day because our theory was like hey you know this guy is now able to sort of be himself as a coach

in his second time around because he's not with the Lou Lamarillo Islanders and I had someone tell me that would know like that was bang on like it is I think their quote was you have no idea how difficult it is to coach under Lou Lamarillo and so I think Lambert's been able to let his freak flag fly a little bit

and I think that those players in comparison to what Biles went off to the table last and they're like, oh, this guy's a pro. Like, he's given us the systems. He's given us the confidence. He's given us everything we need. And I think that is the reason for their start. And I think it's going to carry them through to be a contender this year.

They do not surrender, odd man, Russia. Which, again, is to me not what they should do. I will say it again. People get very mad at me when I say that the Cracken should not be this good. But we'll leave with that. I don't want Seattle fans to get mad at me anymore. And if they're a playoff team, then maybe I'll look like an ass because of it. I want to mention the story that I wrote on ESPN, Merrick, the biggest surprising performances so far by NHL players this season.

I did 10 positive ones, including Leo Carlson, including Brad Marchand. And then I did five shockingly bad performances so far this year. And I'll give you that list real quick. Yes. Marco Casper of the Detroit Red Wings, through 16 games, three goals. this was a guy that was set up to be in between Alex de Brinket and Patrick Cain. He has now been demoted to the third line. And Tab O'Clellan recently said his play hasn't matched what we expected from him.

Your thoughts on Casper this year? I would say that the expectations were too high out of the gate. The thing about Marco Casper, and I will go back even to when I first met at the Combine, he is mature beyond his years mentally, but that doesn't. always translate to the ice. There's still a lot of things you need to learn as an, specifically as an NHL centerman. Like, it's hard to play defense in the NHL.

It's really hard to play center as well. None of that surprises me. I know that he finished off last season in the middle looking really good. It's like, okay, he's going to carry that over into this season. It's going to be off to the races, up the go. We got Dylan Larkin and Marco Casper, and this is going to be great. I think you always bake into the pie a bunny hop backwards. for players like that.

And that's what happened. Any concern for me about Marco Casper? Zero concern about Marco Casper for me. It happened with Lucas Raymond there where he took a step back a little bit after a really good first season. It happens to players. No problem. Yeah, I think he should be fine. Sam Montembow.

So I have watched with great interest since I knew I was writing this column for ESPN. the discourse amongst Canadian fans about Sam Montenbo about how he may have favored nation status amongst some in the media because he is Quebecois and they're not willing to criticize what has been a horrendous season for this goaltender in Montreal. He hasn't been good. There have been, I think of, you know what I think of? outside of that first period against the Philadelphia Flyers where, listen, these are all power play goals that are going in, but nonetheless, when he made the save on Travis Kinectne

to end the first, no, second period, like the second period he was spectacular. I know the Montreal Canaan's ended up losing this one in the extra frame, but nonetheless, there have been moments where you've seen the Sam Monson Bow that we've seen over the past couple of seasons. seasons, but this has been like Jakob Dobish is the new hotness in Montreal right now, much like we saw with Lankin and last year saved the bacon for the Vancouver Canucks

early on as Thatcher Demko got himself, tried to get himself back to health. It's been the same thing for Dobish, but I don't know. I mean, kid gloves for the Quebec Gualtender, I don't know. I don't know how you would even judge that. Like, can you show me examples of it? And that's why he makes the list, because, like, you look at the other situations, like Ottawa, both the guys have a lousy safe percentage. St. Louis, both the guys have a lousy safe percentage. In Montreal, Dobish is completely outplayed Montembow to the point where you're like, okay, so there's a malfunction here with the other part of the tandem.

Have you noticed, by the way, Merrick, that the three goaltenders that were on Canada's four nations team have all come out of the gate pretty lousy while a couple of the guys that are chasing them in particular, Logan Thompson, Darcy, Kenner. Emperor Spencer Knight have played really, really well. No, we don't think about goaltenders a whole lot here in Canada, Craig. So no one's paying attention whatsoever to what's happening to Canada's goaltending in an Olympic year. I don't know what you're talking about. Yes, everyone's noticed. Of course everybody's noticed. And everyone's having the maybe we go to the right catch guy who maybe should have been there last year.

I mean, I saw, I saw the Wongo was in practice today for Florida because Bobrovsky wasn't there. Maybe you can, maybe he's got some gas left in the tank. Who knows? You sound like those old Maple East fans like, Windows still got one run left in him and Dougie two. Braden Point. Terrible so far. Absolutely terrible so far. It was funny.

I told my editor, I had Brock Nelson as a reserve for this list in case Braden Point had like a four point night against the Rangers last night. Instead, he was like, no points minus two. I'm like you can put keep point on the list. He's been extremely mediocre. And interesting, by the way, already names of the Canadian roster, preliminary roster for the Olympics. He's just been pretty bad.

And I think his shot generation is probably the issue. It's down pretty substantially year over year. But man, he is just, for a guy that is usually pretty dependable in all facets, has just not been good at all for them so far. The other one, and it hasn't been as bad as to start, but Brandon Hagel had her, Speaking of Tampa Bay Lighting,

Brandon Hagel had a really bad start too. I told you the force plate story with Braden Point. No, was it? There was a team at the draft that had a couple of Western scouts at the table, pounding the table saying this team needed to take Brayden Point, the Moostrow Warriors, the Western Hockey League, and someone who swung much influence at the draft table,

convinced the manager they shouldn't take Brayden Point. because he had a poor force plate result at the combine and nobody in the NHL whoever succeeded had his poor a force plate result of course at the combine that makes a little sense that makes a little sense

I mean that's like that's a scene on a money ball right there that's like the scene straight on a money ball um Stephen Sanco's Stamco's has three goals in 18 games as everybody knows I talked to him on Monday he's trying to keep a stiff upper lip He's told me he hasn't added conversations with Barry Trots about his future quite yet. But, I mean, this is one of the best goals scorers in the history of hockey.

He was on a 14 goal pace right now. And then finally, I didn't realize this until I looked into the numbers. I was unaware how mediocre McKenzie Weeger has been. He's had a really, really tough start. Four assists and 18 games for a guy. I saw some projections, Merrick, before the season. Olympic team. I wondered if he could, no, if he could lead the flames in points.

based on his offensive output the last couple of seasons it's been not there for him and he's a minus 17 at last check too which is I mean they're a poo poo team but like that's that's pretty bad plus minus is a reflection

of the shooting percentage and safe percentage of the players around you and the goaltender you have the flawed stat I get when it's egregious both ways or when it's when it's egregious to the negative I know you have sort of raise your eyebrow about it.

Whenever a team is going through what Calgary is going through, I think you take a lot of these numbers with a grain of salt. Because I think if you put McKenzie Weger on pick your team, you put McKenzie Weger. Colorado. That's the go-to for everybody. Imagine if they're on Colorado right now, how good they would be. Look how good Brent Burns looks.

Look how good Manson looks. Well, I mean, and that's to say, by the way, that the guy that I was going to put on this list, if Point popped off last night with Brock Nelson, who is on Colorado and who's been lousy. Hey, by the way, on the positives here, I got to hustle and get on Tyler show. On the positives, do you have the return of Chris Kreider? I do not have the return of Chris Kreider, but that isn't actually a really good one.

I was trying to keep it to one guy per team. And so I had to put Leo Carlson as the guy as the biggest shocker. That's just the point. I had Spencer Knight, Brad Marchand, Dawson Mercer, who was great again last night. Matthew Schaefer coming out of the gate. And of course, how could you have a list of the 10 most shocking performances of the season so far, Merrick, without having cult icon Kiefer Sherwood on the list, baby, on point and pace for 57 goals, a shooting percentage of 30% vying for the Rocket Richard against Nathan McKinnon and Cindy Crosby.

It is she for, is Kiefer, is Kierwood's world, sir. We are just living in it. And if you're Kiefer, Sherwood, as much as you want to stay loyal to the Vancouver Canucks, and they were the team that never gave up on you, unlike. Nashville, unlike Anaheim, you're 30 years old. And this is your chance to ring the bell. Buddy, he's a UFA after this season based on these stats. I'd go 13 times eight with him if I were the Vancouver Knucks.

You got to pay for the work that's being done. And by God, he is a Rocket Richard candidate. By the way, he is having the most video game glitch season of anybody in the NHL right now. One is this? Yeah. Yeah, he's got, he's got, he's got, he's got, 11 goals and one assist. One assist. That is, that is, that is play until a day on the old NHL 95 game.

And then, like, you know, Steve Ruchin ends up with 82 goals and no assists. Like, this is a video game glitch season so far for Key for sure. Wow. I'm happy. I just heard Steve Ruchin's name, University of Western Ontario, Anaheim Duck Legend. Wow. Who I worked with for a couple of days while he was trying his hand at broadcasting. Wow.

Wow. You just made it by day. Steve Ruchin. I hadn't thought of it. about that name in a long, long time. That was good. I'm feeling good about myself here. Okay, I got a couple of things to do here

and then got to get on Tyler's show. So, you have a great rest of your day. Thanks, everybody. We'll talk to you on Tuesday. There is, Greg Wischinsky. Enjoy the Jets tonight. There he is. Greg Wischinsky from ESPN and ESPN.com,

Tuesdays and Thursdays here on the sheet. We've got to buggy through a couple of different things here. I'll start with Hungry for Hockey History, which is a presentation. of Uber Eats. Uber Eats is enabling fans to maximize their fandom all season long with exclusive game day deals on the app.

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Zach? Yep, we got three today. A little bit older ones on these ones. We're going to start back in 1934. Ralph Bowman of the St. Louis Eagles scores the first penalty shot goal in NHL history and a 2-1 loss to the Montreal Maroons. It was the second attempt in NHL history, but the first penalty shot goal. 1968, the Blues beat the Rangers three to one at MSG while using three different goalies.

Glenn Hall starts, Robbie Irons comes in, and then Jacques Plont comes down for. from the press box, dresses and stops 22 of 22 for the win. And then in 1984, Bernie Nichols becomes the first player ever to score in all four periods of a game, squared in each of the three regulation periods, and again, an OT to give the Kings of 5'4 win over the Nordiques.

I'll take the oldest of the old school here to do a little wrap on that. Ralph Bowman, 1934, the second ever penalty shot in the NHL, the first successful penalty shot in the history of the NHL. The way they did penalty shots there was goaltenders had to stay in place in the net. They could not move more than a foot away from the goal line.

And there was an area, a circle which would be just sort of between what we know as the blue line and the hash marks where players had to take their shot from. They could pick any place in that circle. They could skate up to it, but they had to take a single shot. This all comes from the Patrick family of the Old Pacific Coast League. By this time, Lester would have been running the New York Rangers of the NHL. But you know what's interesting about that one? And this rule changed in, I want to say, 41 or 42, after the penalty shot, the team still got a power play. That's the way they did it.

So if you were hauled down and missed your scoring opportunity, you got a penalty shot and then your team went on the power play. It wasn't an either or. Now it's turned into an either or. It's like, oh, send them in the dot or no, we want to. kill time and get the power play it was you got both i like that idea if you're all about goals in the n hl and you want more goals don't make it either or you get hauled down on a breakaway guess what you get a penalty shot and your team goes on the power play yeah i mean take both i kind of i kind of hate it but i also i mean i look i'm not i not good enough

enough to do the job and I'm the guy yelling from the couch, but they're a little stingy on the penalty shot calls nowadays anyways. Could you imagine what happened if they knew the repercussions of it where it's like... Shot and a power play? And then they're going to get the power play.

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. I love it. Maybe not. I love it. I absolutely love it. All right, there you go. Hungry for Hockey History presented by our friends at Uber Eats. Also, it's the NHL season. and Fanduel is your home for all the action on the ice. The sheet is powered by Fanduel. Play your game with Fanduel.

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and physically located in Ontario. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2,600, to speak to an advisor free of charge. Zach? So, as you could imagine, I'm not the most, I don't know what you want to call it,

like in tune with, like, history and the arts and that kind of stuff. No. It's basically just like sports and that's it. So the naming of this one would have been so much, better if I knew what the hell I was talking about when I put it together, but it's still kind of work. So this parley is a focus on tonight's Kings and Leafs game. You'll see exactly what I mean when I unveil this. This one is titled this because if this parlay hits tonight, it will in fact be the last supper in Toronto, whether it's for the players or the coach or

whoever. I don't know. But I thought this was so much smarter to call it the last supper because I was like, well, it was all the kings and nights and stuff at the dinner table. No, it was not. I have no idea. It is the 12 Apostles and Jesus. Not even close to Kings and Knights. No. So I'm missing part from now.

I appreciate the Mayaculpa and we'll just move along and talk about quitting by field. Did you ever watch him play at YACC, by the way? Yes. And so when I played for the waxers, the his age group that he was playing for because he was playing two years up maybe at that time they used to play the games before us in markham uh and when we would play at york simco so when i was playing for the waxers at that time we got to see him like four times a year five times a year yeah we would go out and it would be like oh the waxers are losing nine one and then we'd

ask the scorekeeper like what's byfield got and he's like well he's got seven goals and two assists and you're watching okay remember i remember watching about why i seen it's like Everybody's like, I met of those old videos of like everybody bouncing off Eric Lindrosse as he would skate down the ice. Like that's what he was. He was like Eric Lindross coming down the ice and guys trying to hit him and just bouncing off of him. It was incredible. He could do whatever he wanted. Whatever he wanted.

Yeah. It would be picking up the puck. That was one of the funny things too. You know in minor hockey when it's like that I'm just going to wheel. I'm going to fly up the ice. Picking it up behind the net, you could see it. You're like, here you go. It was like pick it up, skate through everybody.

And it was like not even just going as fast as you can with power and nobody can catch me. It would be, okay, well, I'm going to slow it down a little bit over here and then speed it up from the blue line to the red line. And then I'm going to tow drag three guys in a row. And then I'm going to go back around the offensive zone circle back and then go and take a shot. And he's like, what the hell is going on?

And he always used such a... John Daytickering kind of stuff. I know. But he always used a really short stick. And he still used a short stick when he got to the NHL. True. And I think it's only the last couple of things. a couple of years that that's been kind of corrected more than because I always like hunched over

when he played to anyhow um quitting by oh just for people who didn't see it on the screen uh that would be a by field goal a Trevor Moore goal and the LA Kings to win by two or more that is five dollars pays you 114.16 tonight and then what happens after the tron of Maple Leaf loss in what happens after the Toronto Maple Leafs game tonight you get on the air get on the line. We shall see what happens. No Austin Matthews in this one, as we all know. Or Stollars.

Ditto for Anthony Stolars. Okay, we've got to hustle here. I've got to get to Oilers Nation every day in a couple of seconds here with Tyler and Liam. So on that, we'll bid you good day, whether you're watching or listening or interacting in the chat. We appreciate all of it, as always. Implore you once again to please subscribe to our daily face off YouTube channel and leave all the likes.

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