The Sheet with Jeff Marek - The Walter Cup is FOUND, NHL Expansion, Zdeno Chara, and More ft. Erin Ambrose & Greg Wyshynski

Episode Date: August 26, 2026

Today on The Sheet, Jeff Marek takes the show on the road as he goes live from Erin Ambrose’s Walter Cup celebration, joining the former Montreal Victoires star as she celebrates a championship season with friends and family before beginning the next chapter of her career with the PWHL’s new team in Las Vegas. Jeff is joined by Greg Wyshynski to break down some of the biggest stories and strangest conversations around hockey, including the wild story of the Walter Cup briefly going missing before eventually making its way into Ambrose’s possession. They’ll also dive into the world of hockey memorabilia and promotional giveaways, from the New Jersey Devils’ upcoming butter bench giveaway to the legendary Zamboni gravy train and some of the NHL’s most memorable novelty items over the years. Then, Erin Ambrose sits down with Jeff to reflect on her time in Montreal, what it meant to win the Walter Cup, celebrating the championship with the people closest to her, why she made the decision to join Las Vegas, and what she’s most looking forward to as she prepares for a brand-new chapter in the PWHL.#TheSheet #PWHL #ErinAmbrose #WalterCup #MontrealVictoires #PWHLLasVegas #NHL #Hockey #JeffMarek #GregWyshynski #WomensHockey #NewJerseyDevilsReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, Greg Rishinsky. Welcome to another edition of the sheet for this Tuesday, August 25th. I'm in Fenland Falls. I'm guessing you've never been here. No, I couldn't pick it out on a map just to set the scene for those watching on YouTube. I'm in the basement. I'm in the command center. In the hovel. I'm in a place where I usually do the show. Eric, behind him, there seems to be some gardening happening. They're setting up for pictures. Yes. So there's the water behind.

us, the peers behind us, the backyard, at Aaron Ambrose's cottage, formerly the Montreal Victoire, now of PWHL Las Vegas. This is her Walter Cup Day. So we're going to get into Walter Cup stories, and there are many now with Aaron coming up here towards the bottom of the hour. We wanted to have Aaron on a little bit later on because people are starting to arrive now and want to make sure that she's well refreshed by the time she joins the program a little a little bit later on.

This is her Walter Cup. She's already had an event in Keswick. I know that Sean Walker had his Keswick event, but Ambrose had her Keswick event earlier to me, too. Two champions from Keswick, who would have thought? I know, right? You got to make sure all the hors d'oeuvs are on point. You got to make sure that everybody knows the protocols.

That's right. Are there different protocols for a Walter Cup celebration than there is for a Stanley Cup celebration? I've only been to one. I went to, in 2010, I went to Nick Boynton's. Nick Boynton's Stanley Cup when he played with the show. Chicago Blackhawks, and we had just had our first kid, he was like two weeks old, and I get there, and first thing Nick does is, we're putting him in the cups. I always pick it. I think I jinxed it from my oldest son, like put him in the cup, but he's two weeks old, like, sorry, sorry, son, kind of wrecked it for you. But that was the only Stanley Cup celebration that I was ever at. I've never been to a Walter Cup celebration, but now I am.

And over there, and Walter's going to be joining us here in about half an hour. So the Walter Cup is staring at me right now. I just want to point out that I've not read the statutes myself, but I do believe that placing your one-year-old son inside the Stanley Cup of your Canadian, two-week-old, two-week-old son inside the Stanley Cup of your Canadian, does constitute child abuse. I believe I know saying this, you took it all the way from him. We were waiting for children's aid to show up on the way out of Boynton's, and they did it at his parents own a sod farm at the Boynton sod farms,

so we're waiting for to have to surrender our first child. You know, he can never win the cup now, don't you, sir? How dare you do this to your son? So plenty of Walser Cup stuff coming up when Aaron drops by and want to thank her for hosting us here at this lovely cottage at Fenland Falls. Now, at the beginning of the summer, the star of the NHL was Leo Carlson. You could say it was Daniel Breyer. You could argue it was Pat for Beek and all that drama, et cetera.

But the star of the show was Leo Carlson. but the start of the show right now is Bill Daly. Deputy Commissioner of the NHL who's just pumping out headline after headline after headline. And the latest is the NHL pretty much coming out and saying, yeah, we're going to Texas again. And if you think it's going to be one, it's probably going to be two. What, I mean, listen, Houston or Austin, take your pick. I think they go for the biggest TV market myself, but nonetheless. I think so, too.

Atlanta and then eventually a return to Arizona. But what do you hear? What do you know? What's the latest coming under your nose at ESPN and ESPN.com? Our friend Chris Johnson had a good chat with Bill Daly at the Player Media Tour's European leg in Munich, where he dropped all this information about the fact that we could expect the 33rd franchise in the NHL to start playing in 202930. which means either Houston or Austin because that Texas bid is so far beyond the ones in Atlanta

and what might, you know, anything coming out of Arizona. Need a rank. The Houston versus Austin thing remains interesting. I mean, obviously a lot has to do with buildings. A lot has to do with owners. And a lot has to do with where the NHL ultimately thinks a team could thrive better. Austin is, as Bill Daley has noted, like Vegas. They would be first to market in what is a very lucrative market.

And one that is booming from a tech perspective. And also has a little bit of character to it. I mean, let's face it. I mean, being the fifth or sixth team in Houston is interesting. But the NHL team will not have the legacy of the other Houston-based teams. Right. Being the first team in Austin is important. But also, Austin is what Merrick?

That's right. is weird. Austin is South by Southwest. Austin has its own personality. Austin is so cool. Austin is super. And as I've told you this before, Austin has always been, and I think, I'm not sure if the last few years,

but it used to be the sneaky getaway spot for NHL players. They could sneak away to Austin. Nobody would know who they are. They can go and not have to worry about being player X from Team Y and go and get their freak on and have a good time. And if you put an NHL team there, though, that's over. But it's cool stuff.

Yeah, we should say, we should say there is an MLS team in Austin. It's not like they'd be the only major professional sports team there if the NHL went there, but obviously no NBA, no NFL, yada, yada. Two things from what Daley is talking about that I find interesting besides one, the timeline.

They have no problem staggering these expansion teams. They've done this throughout Betman's 10 years commissioner, whether it was the staggered expansion that gave us Nashville and Columbus and Minnesota and all those teams, or the, you know, Vegas and then Seattle a few years later,

think of situation that we just had. So they have no problem going to Texas first and then waiting a few years to go to Atlanta or Arizona or wherever. The other thing was, Daley was asked about the quality of play vis-a-vis expansion by at least two teams. And he said, quote, I think we have enough boots on the ground and experience to know kind of where hockey skill is today. And the players who can play and have proved they can play in the NHL,

the source and supply of players is not a concern. the dilution of talent as an argument against expansion, I don't think holds any water today. Does it support a four-team expansion? That would be a question for me. Certainly a two-team expansion doesn't raise any concerns. I think the thing that for whatever reason the NHL never wants to admit, but you and I have talked about many times before, Eric, is that dilution of talent leads to better hockey.

Delusion of talent leads to more scoring. And that's exactly what we saw in the way. of Vegas and Seattle entering the league. This offensive boom is happening for a lot of reasons, but one of them is because the talent got diluted by two teams. Okay, so let me frame this historically. I'm not disagreeing. Now, we can argue about the quality of play

and how much struggle you think should be in each game and what's a good hockey score, but there is no denying that between the years, It was 1967 and 1975, maybe 76, 77, the NHL was at its weakest. And this has always been my argument against players like Bobby Orr. I know I sound like a bad Canadian when I say things like, you know, Bobby York might not have been the best defense of all the time to discuss. It's probably Nicklisdron, but that's for another show. Because in 1967, the league doubled.

Okay? You went from six to 12 teams. 1970, you welcome two more teams, the Buffalo Sabres and the Vancouver Canucks. And then it kept on rolling. 72, there's more. 74, there's more. Then there's a whole other league, the WHA that peeled players away. Some teams bit against contracts.

They ended up winning Stanley Cups. Some teams didn't. Isaac, Toronto Maple Leafs fan. They didn't and squandered any opportunity to win a Stanley Cup. But nonetheless, a lot of players went because the paychecks were greater. Thank you very much. And what did it do? It diluted the talent in the NHL.

But I've always maintained, and this is where I'm a hypocrite here, but the 70s was the best decade of hockey the NHL has ever seen because it went through that transition phase. And it was a combination of two things. One, more scoring because the quality of play was down. And two, more violence. Because there were a lot of people who did not belong in the NHLs. They may have belonged in prison, but they did not belong in the NHL, and they found themselves in the National Hockey League. So I think that's the one thing that I don't think the NHL wants to do. I don't think they want to go through something like they did from 67 to 75 with massive expansion quickly.

Now, they were bidding against rival leagues. They wanted to own all of it. So I understand the motivation behind that. That is not this. but I really do think like you start to get to 33 teams 34 teams I really do wonder like

how much can this league withstand without seeing a drop in the quality and again I don't know the answer to it I don't think any of us do first of all again my premise is that a drop in in quality of play is only a good thing because it leads to mistakes

it leads to offense leads to more scoring the Neanderthilic American brain comprehends scoring. We want goals. We want the red light going on more often than it doesn't. And so in the last few years, we've seen a boom in the popularity of hockey

for a number of reasons, but one of them is because the puck is going in the net more. Now, two things. First of all, whenever you bring up your love of the 1970s hockey, it reminds me of what people say about Saturday Night Live, which is that the cast you grew up with is what you consider to be the best cast.

And I've always felt that about you in the 1970s. The 1970s mean a lot to you for a lot of reasons. No, hang on. One of them is that because it was a formative time for you as a hockey fan. That's why you think the 70s is the best hockey. No, hang on a second here. I was born in 69. So 80s was the sweet spot getting into my teen years.

I should really say the 80s. But as I look back on it and I sure I was part of watching 70s hockey as a preteen, I still think it was the most exciting. But if anything, by your definition, like, you know, brand awareness happens at 12 years old. That's when you attach yourself to brands, whether they be what you consume more what you watch. That would have been the 80s. That would have been the 80s.

There you go. It would have been the 80s. Hence your love for Mike Bossy. But hang on a second. But I will say 87 was the best year in the history of hockey. That is indisputable. But best decade, 70s. That's indisputable.

The second thing is, though, I understand your counterargument such as it is, but you have to admit, sir, that the pipelines of talent for the National Hockey League are not only more plentiful, but also. spewing forth more players than they ever did in the 1970s. Obviously, there are parts of the world that players weren't allowed to play in the NHL in the 1970s, and now they play all over the NHL. Here is where the difference lies. The talent pool in the NHL slash WHA in the 70s was still coming primarily.

And I know the WJ had their European invasion that led into the Oilers and the Winnipeg Jets in the 80s, but that's, again. end for another conversation, was primarily still coming from one country, and that's Canada. Right. Now the talent coming from a number of countries, and the main one, the United States of America. Yeah, we talked about last episode, the gold-sending boom in the United States. That is where, like, where all these players are going to come from, the growth of hockey in the United States. That's where that is, that's mainly where it's coming from.

So Daly on the one hand is right that I think the league can absorb the hit from. a couple more expansion drafts because the talent level is that high. But I also think Daley isn't saying the quiet part loud, which is the more dilution of talent you have, the more sloppy play gets, the more ineffective defensive systems become, and the more scoring that we see and more scoring is more better for the NHL. Now, the other thing I wanted to mention about with expansion America is that we had some movement on the Atlanta front. Okay, what's happening there? What's happening in Georgia? The Alpharetta City Council, whose meetings I thank you.

don't have to watch on streaming yet like I did with Lundale. Oh, I love those. I love those. I miss those things. Voted this week to approve a transformation of the North Point Mall into a sports adjacent mixed-use entertainment district. That includes a 20,000 seat NHL-ready arena. Okay, so this is one of the two bids.

Alpharet is one. Yeah. Forcith County is the other. and this approval, which has been a couple of months in the making, this approval is important because it is contingent on the NHL awarding a franchise to the North Point site. The redevelopment is expected to be completed in phases with various components opening on a rolling basis. So in other words, they'll get the arena done first if the NHL says, we're getting a team, and then everything else will get filled in around that.

But again, we don't know if they're getting a team. There's two bids. There's two different sites bidding for a team, trying to get a team, trying to calm the NHL's fears. But I came across this comment on the hockey Reddit. And again, take it with a grain of salt. It's a commenter on Reddit. But I hadn't heard this. And I'm going to assume this is true.

And if it's not, then somebody from the Atlanta area, please chime in and tell us that this is bullshit. Ben, right. Ben chimed in. saying they're saying this north point north point mall alpharetta bid is uh has an advantage over forcith county because of a planned transit expansion buses not trains which is something that is an ongoing challenge for the braves and cobb county forcith will never pay for public transportation and i feel like the league will prefer a site that is slightly more connected to the city of Atlanta um again it's buses not a train so i don't know how much of a difference that makes for the nchel but it does

sound like, at least in theory, there will be an expansion of transit to this site that the other site may not necessarily get. NHL may not care. Just like, get your car and go. Although I did evoke the name of Glendale before, American, if you do remember that. With the single lane, I know I drove it. I know. Get your car and go to Glendale.

Did not work out all that well for the NHL. Single lane, seven o'clock, get there on a Tuesday. Puck drops at seven. Yeah, I know. I remember. I remember. Although, I will say one thing. Glendale was a really underrated rank.

I thought it was a great rank. I thought as far as like an NHL rank goes, Glendale was awesome. The problem was getting there, right? That was like the classic, you know, feel the dreams mistakes, build it and they will come. Guess what? Nope.

Now, is there a chance then? Because I've always wondered about this with Atlanta. Could it be a joint bid? It may have to end up being that. First of all, we don't know what the financial situation. is behind the backers of these bids whether or not. I mean, you assume that they're going to pony up for the expansion fee. But, you know, who knows?

They could just be using the NHL as a carrot to get all these approvals and then they'll figure out the details after that. But, you know, when Seattle had several bids all going for a team at the same time, there was talk of there being joint bids, but it ended up not being a joint bid. It ended up being one group that won out and that eventually bought the, the, crack into Seattle. So I tend to believe that the strongest shall survive in this bidding process. But I've done more due diligence on the sites and the processes within the city and

getting approvals than I have figuring out who's trying to buy these teams in Atlanta. We've mentioned Glendale a couple times. I do want to point out that our good friend Craig Morgan, an AZ, Hockey Insider did have a piece on August 16th, catching up with Bill Daly and asking about Arizona's bid to bring the NHL back to Arizona. They're gone. Daly said, I don't think there's any news necessarily. You're aware and we're aware, most importantly, that there's an interest amongst a number of people in Arizona to bring an NHL franchise back to the Phoenix area.

I think we've been open and honest about the fact that given the right circumstances, we continue to think Arizona would be a good market for the NHL. I bring this up not only to point people to Craig's work as he continues to do great work on the hockey beat, despite they're not being an NHL team in Arizona anymore, but I bring this up because Bill Daly has certainly mentioned Arizona. I think we're going, I think we all assume they're going back. Right. It's too big of a market. And not only is it too big a market, but they're graduating elite players into the NHL from there.

Like you're seeing the root to the fruit. and the sun devils are thriving at Arizona State and you know like you know there's there's hockey there and they put roots down and just because there's nothing flowering right now doesn't mean the roots aren't still on the ground. Now what I was going to say, Eric, is that he does mention Arizona within the context of Houston, within the context of Atlanta as potential NHL sites. Obviously the Texas stuff is front burner because of the board of governors

meeting that we just had a couple of months ago. But you know, it's not a lot of, as if the NHL has been shy about them wanting to go back to Arizona and it's just a matter of whether or not someone's going to be able to do the things that need to be done to get a team there which is as we've seen over the last oh I don't know 20 years

easier easier so again like I think I've been consistent with this like the last 20 years you're the NHL you're executing national sales the first conversation is which markets do you have

right like that is the first one and then you start checking off the boxes and it's, oh, you don't have Phoenix. Oh, okay. Oh, you don't have Houston. Oh, okay. Oh, you don't have Atlanta. Okay. So whether it's national sales or it's a, it's a TV package, all these, all of these markets work. I know it sounds like to some cynical fans will say, it's never worked in Atlanta. They've had kick sat at a couple of times. Let's stop trying to make this one work. Or they've already had to go around in Phoenix. Like there's no point in going down this road again. And I'm telling you, like from a national sales point of view and from a television

deal point of view, these things are massive. They really, really are. So you try to find a way that these can work and you don't quit on them. I don't, and I think initially the NHL didn't want to quit on a team on a on a team that built a rank for them. I think Batman specifically has always been really. sensitive about that. You build a rink will fight for you. Quebec. I'm going to get to you

in a second. Hold on. But I think that's one of the reasons why they kept things alive in Phoenix. Now the other thing, I remember when you and I met and I was doing Hockey Night in Canada radio when you were doing Puck Daddy,

the first thing you wrote about me was an interview I did with Batman. I remember this. Because remember Elie is like, hey, Worsinski's writing about you. I'm like, oh great, what did I do? Or what did I say? And I looked at it. It was a very complimentary note that you had in your headlines piece about the interview with Batman. And the only thing that I can recall from that one that I thought that I really took away from that I still remember to this day was, how do you know when a market's done?

And his answer was blunt and quick. And he said, well, nobody wants to own it. And as long as somebody wants to own it in that market, we will keep fighting for it. That is where. And Bill Daley and Dave Alter's piece at the hockey news in his conversation, a bill daily. That's what he brings up with Quebec. And Quebec has the fans. Quebec has the building. Videotron Center is beautiful right beside the Ocali-Say. But he said at this time, and I know previously Quebecor was part of a bid, right now they have nobody that wants to own it.

They have nobody that wants to put together a bid. What I find really interesting about the expansion talk for the NHL, because you're right about the markets that they love. But they don't really miss a lot when it comes to expansion. There are some situations that I think are much more about the operation of the teams than they are about the market. Columbus being one of them, which I think is a boom market if they can never get their shit together. Please win. And then Seattle, we've talked about ad nauseum on this podcast about the idea that they just don't know what they're supposed to be and they haven't figured it out. and they've been screwing up

since the expansion draft wasn't what it was for Vegas. But the two misses that they had, one was obviously through relocation, which was Phoenix. And that situation just deteriorated for a number of different reasons. But Atlanta was a miss.

Atlanta was a mess. I don't think that even if the thrashers were good, it would have necessarily worked there. So what I was trying to say, Merrick is when I hear Daly, and Betman to a lesser extent, talk about Arizona and Atlanta. Is it how much, what percentage of that desire to go back to these places is we're going to make it work this time? We don't make mistakes.

We never miss. How much of it is ego? No, I don't. I don't. I don't think it's ego. I think it's business. I really do. I just think it's neat.

The NHL wants to be in the big markets. Thank you very much. I really, I really do. Again, I'll come back to. But if those markets. Not national sales and TV contracts. But if those markets have rejected hockey and you're going back. Now, in Atlanta's case,

daily will tell you it's going to be different this time because it's not in the city, it's in the suburbs. Right. In Arizona's case, I think they just believe that it's an ownership issue. Right. But in both cases, it didn't work the first time. Well, in Atlanta the second time. Very true.

Correct. 100%. I think they do have, like, for the thrashers, you had an ownership group that, didn't want hockey. They just wanted the basketball team. Right? Like that's it.

And they had nobody else that wanted to buy it. And you remember how that went down to like the last minute where the keys essentially were thrown on the table. What were there? Seven different owners. And they're all like, you want this? Nope. You want this?

Nope. You want this? Nope. We just want the basketball. We don't really care about the hockey. Thank you very much. And it was keys on the table time. Going back to my previous point, how do you know when an organization is done in the city?

Nobody wants to own it. They did not want it. It was hot potato for ownership in Arizona. But again, I don't think that this is an ego thing. And I don't think because I don't think that that drives the NHL. I think it is just business. And it's putting as much money in owners' pockets as possible. I think franchise value is job number one.

And I think expansion is going to be lucrative for the NHL in these two markets. And I think that's what drives them. And it's going to help. Again, it'll help national sales. and it'll help TV contracts because you have the big markets. And I think they probably feel, again, that there's a momentum with hockey.

Right now in the United States, say whatever you want about what happened afterwards with the men's gold medal. But there's a momentum there and these players are starting to have more of a national profile than ever before because there are more Americans now that are at the top of their game.

And a couple of them, You think of Austin Matthews and Matthew Nye specifically that come from Arizona. That's how you get it. I still think Arizona is like 22% ego. They did fight for. They did fight for it. I know. And I think that they fought for it.

And they went to the, you know, it was a court battle and the bankruptcy thing and they kept the team on life support. You and I have covered Betman forever, right? Oh, yeah. He doesn't, he's, he does not, even when he loses, he'll never admit loss. He'll never admit defeat. And I guarantee you that there is a scotch of ego involved in wanting to go back to Arizona and proving that it can work there. It is not the primary motivator, but it's got to be part of it. It's not the prime way.

It's got to be part of it for him. I don't think it's no, it's nowhere close to number one. Because again, like I'm always reminded, what is his number one job? Really, you can argue he only has one job and that's franchise value. Everything else is in service of the value of the NHL franchises. That is the job. I think that it is, I think that he likes the challenge because the other thing that we've learned about Batman going back to 1993 when he started is he likes a fight. I think he likes the challenge of

I don't want to give up on Arizona You guys want to give up on Arizona Because when we do national sales Everybody asks about Phoenix You want to fight? Because I want to fight I think that that is part of it But I think it's business first

And I'm going to show you second Because I don't think he exists Just to throw it in people's face And ha I told you this would work Having said that Man did a victory lap about Vegas as well he should. And I was one of the people that said,

it ain't going to work. It ain't going to work. It ain't going to work. And they were first in. And it worked. It worked. It worked. It worked a lot.

Wait, huge. For a long time, we've considered Quebec City to be the last resort, backdoor relocation spot for a team. Obviously, we've had one relocation. Technically, I don't know how we're supposed to frame it. I get confused every time I talk about Salt Lake City because of the, It's not the coyotes, but it is the coyotes players, but it's not the franchise, but it could be the... Who the fuck cares?

Is Quebec City still? Do you think the back pocket, back door, if we need you, we're going to break glass on you, desperation, relocation move for the NHL? I don't think that the NHL wants to put another team in Canada, and I don't think it has anything. It's funny to you because part of the motivation is, you know, are you making any new hockey fans? You're making money, but are you making new fans? Hey. Hey, Hey,

Pup. Honestly, I think a lot of it is I don't think that the NHL wants any more markets in Canada where the dollar

can be volatile. I really, I honestly think it is, it is that simple. Do you not agree? Like, that is like the main,

motivator here. Yeah, it could be. But I mean, but I mean, you know, like when they sent the Atlanta

franchise to Winnipeg, it was because they knew that there were going to be hockey fans in Winnipeg that would pay money to watch the games.

And there was a building there And there was an ownership group and a very, very wealthy owner and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. Okay. I want to get the chara here with you. Speaking of victory laps. Okay.

Anything more on this expansion? Ambrose is warming up and warming up in the, oh, hang on. Oh, there she goes. She's warming up in the bullpen. I know if you heard that tin opening. I heard a little clickity click. I think she's getting the pipes juice. That's good for everything.

So wait, before we talk about Chara. Yeah. So hit me to the Walter Cup thing? Like this is, was it lost? Okay. So what I understand, it was supposed to arrive at Dara Griggs' place in Lethbridge on Friday. It did not, the cup did not arrive. And the league worked with, I believe it was FedEx, but I'm not 100% sure, to try to locate it.

And it went through the week. It was supposed to go to Abbey Rock's. event in Sioux-St. Marie, Michigan for Saturday Sunday. She had the Minnesota one instead. First of all, good on Minnesota, too. I don't know that the Florida Panthers would, like the Stanley Cup was, the Florida Panthers would loan the Carolina Hurricanes. They're the cup for individual parties.

So good on, good on Minnesota for doing a solid here. And then yesterday, yesterday, as I'm told, it showed up at Dara's place. All right, that's good. I was minimally concerned that the cup had somehow been acquired by Josh Kushner and Bob Iger as part of the purchase of Lakers and Mark Walter selloff. Was not part of not part of any deal there. Outside of Mark Walter's mansion, there's a Walter Cup and it's got a $25 price tag on it or something. I was a little bit worried about that. Out on the front lawn for the weekend.

No, nothing like that. It's, I will say this. Like, I know it was really awkward for the PWH all over the weekend. honestly like okay where's our trophy but much like the Stanley Cup I mean everybody has a story about it ask any hockey player what they've either participated in remember when you and I talked about to Phil Bork and he talked about taking the cup apart to see what it looked like inside maybe after it was maybe like after a few drinks like with a couple of buddies at three o'clock tomorrow I'm going to take the Stanley like everybody has stories now like I really do believe like especially for hockey

cups need stories oh Ottawa left it at the the side of the road, they forgot about it, had to go back and get it the next day. Yeah. Like, Cups need stories, man. And now the Walter Cup has his first one. The Phil Bork thing reminds me. I always wanted to write a national treasure-like movie about somebody finding a map inside of the Stanley Cup. Well, it leads to you, I don't know.

But Matt Johnson of Durvado, the band, the show. Get on that right now. A national treasure, Canadian version. You find a map inside the Stanley Cup. I'm pretty sure that inside of the Cup, like, I don't think that Phil, Bork was the first to do it, I seem to have knocking around my head the idea that inside the cup, someone had scratched their name on the side of the cup inside as well. That's great.

How many pops into the nights you have to be to be like, oh, I know my name's engraved on the cup, but what if I engrave my name on the other side? Inside. And you'll never get rid of it. That's where you're supposed to put the kids. You don't put them on the front. If you want to put the kids on, put it on the inside. Okay, really quick before we get the air.

What if you opened up the Stanley Cup and out popped Nathan Kirby. Wouldn't that be amazing? Nathan Kirby's just hiding there. That's a very, very cool. Very, very cool reference by you. Roy Waters might be another one for the even older in the set. Whose nickname was actually Shrimp. Okay, what did you make of Chara specifically?

And who did you think of when you saw the skates at Center Ice? He leaves his skates at Center Ice after his final game. Yes. Obviously, obviously, something that warms. part of these two professional wrestling fans because at the end of your, after your last match, you're supposed to take off the boots and leave them in the middle of the ring. But the first thought that I had, Merrick, was of course, Brock Lesner, who left his boots in the middle of the ring.

I believe it was WrestleMania. And then it immediately came back. And it was like, I'm still retired, but I'm still going to wrestle you, which is not the way it works. I just love. And yes, thanks to everybody who, like, right away, like the bat signal, when I get everybody sent this to me, ASAP. Look at that. That's so cool.

Honestly, it's one of the coolest things, and it comes off just like I thought it would to with like the closing shot. There he goes. In his socks, the kids. That's the shot. Look at that. If you're watching on YouTube, look how beautiful that is as he leaves with his kids. Like, that looks fan. Now, his background, his family background, his father competed in the Olympics in 1976 in Greco-Roman wrestling. for Czechoslovakia. So as we know, with wrestlers,

they will do that, leave the shoes on the mat, weightlifters as well. By the way, in 76, when you look at the amount of athletes with NHL connections, just as a quick aside, Alex Ovechkin's mom,

played basketball for the Soviet Union in 76 in Montreal, Vladimir Burei was a swimmer as well, of course, the father of legendary Pavel Burray and Valerie Burray. And then Hugh Frazier was a sprinter for Canada, whose son Mark Frazier, played in the NHL.

So 76. How tall? How tall was Char his dad? Does he get his high? No, I don't think he was like, I don't think he was like, I don't think he was as tall. Can you imagine trying to wrestle somebody

who's like 6-8 and correct the room? That's Brian McKay. It's like wrestling a fucking sea monster. He didn't meddle. He didn't meddle, but wrestling a sea monster. True. But you know what?

I just hope, again, I've said it before. loved seeing it. It's great. I don't know that it ever becomes a thing in hockey, in pro hockey, either on the men's or women's side in the NHL or the PWHL, but damn it,

it looked cool. Like, we're always looking for new ways to do different things. Like, you know, the stick salute is sort of standard now. In the NHL, the Rangers brought that into the NHL, mainly with the Swedes and the team Henrik Lundquist, and that became a thing, and now everybody does it. I just love the visual. Like, after, you know, Trevor Linden's

last game, he gets the handshakes from the Calgary flames, gates the center, leaves the skates. Like, God, it wouldn't be so fantastic. But then you've got to commit to it. You've got to commit to it. That's the issue. We've had two guys, basically, in the last several years that committed to, this is the end for me.

One of them was Flurry, and I'm still not convinced of it, by the way. Are you sure he's not going to play? I know. And the other one was Copatar. And then everyone else just kind of played grab ass with whether or not they were going to retire or come back for another season. So you need someone who actually is going to be definitive. in their retirement.

The thing about Ovechkin, too, is his last game in the NHL won't be his last pro game. Precisely. He'll play games for Dynamo. So that would, if he's going to do it, and he would be, like, the right kind of guy to do it. Like, it's great that it's charred. Stature in the game, uh, Greco-Roman wrestling background. It all adds up and it makes sense. That's great.

I just hope that that's a door open now. I really do because it looks so cool. It's a great visual. It's a great visual. It really is. Anything before we let you go. Yeah, real quick. You went to a.

to a wrestling show this week or last last weekend right yeah uh last show last Thursday house show in london yeah it was great wwee house show you told me your last wrestling show you went to was roughly 2005 years ago i think it was 2001 i just have no time with all the hockey what were your thoughts on the differences in aesthetics between now and then um So again, it was a house show, and I think the last one that I went to in 2001 would have been a pay-per-view. But nonetheless, I mean, it's quick matches and a lot of mic work. I mean, the W.W.E style is interesting because they train their audience to pop at certain places, and it's really repetitive. Like, we saw this going back to, like, when Vince, when Vince Jr. took over the company, it became about repetition and same moves and easy to understand and train your audience to pop at certain.

times and so that tradition continues um it is well first of all it's a lot of fun and the wrestlers are more again this is just the house show more interactive with the crowd than i can recall there was more like we're closer to you than we're ever before right that's what that's what it seemed like to me dan halzen was over massive uh i love gunther and he was in the main they did a three way with Rhodes and punk. I love Gunther. He's fantastic. But it was,

like, I was actually, and I'm always surprised by this too, that more guys don't invest more time in learning how to talk properly and how to cut promos. Because with the rise of wrestling always, as much as,

whether it's Hogan or Rock or so-un-called punk now, what's the common denominator? In North America, you can talk them into the building. You can talk them into the building. I've always been of the mind that you either have that or you don't, but I think the exception to the rule is Roman Raines,

who I think has been somebody who's gotten better on the mic throughout his career. So there are exceptions to the rule, but I just think it's like maybe you're great in the ring and then you can't do it on the stick. I think you're either born with it or you're not when it comes to being engaging on the mic. I don't know about that one so much. Just like podcasters, Merrick.

Oh, yeah, you're born to do it. No, but you know what we used to say that about goal scorer. in hockey. Oh, you're born to do it. You can't teach touch? Yeah, what a little shit. Good man. And I believed it too. We all believed it. Oh, yeah, Mike Bossy, just a natural, he's just born to do it. No, you're not. You can learn. You can be taught these things. Anyhow, it was awesome. And I'm going to Total Nonstop on Thursday. Oh, that's where you're going to TNA wrestling as well. So you're back on the circuit. We've got to get to AW when they come up there to Canada. So you can see Kenny Omega bouncing around.

I'd love to. There you go. Thank you for that. Wrestling is a big part of your career and your life. Massive. And you know what? Now I can... Now I can just enjoy it. Like whenever I talk to Shane and Goldman, a lot of our conversations turn to tennis.

Because I love hearing her talk about tennis because she's like this incredible authority. And I always hate her like, you know, if you wanted to, you could be a double threat, whether hockey and tennis. That would be awesome. She's like, I just want something that I can enjoy and doesn't have to be my job. I'm like, oh, that sounds, maybe that wrestling is just going to be that thing for me. And as they, whenever I retire, it's going to chase wrestling matches. It's going to be it. Do you know how stupid this is going to sound, but that's the New York Jets for me?

Like, as miserable as they make me. No, you know what? Football is not my job. There are plenty of people at the place where I work that talk about football. It will never be the thing they look to me to do. So I know that I can watch the NFL without ever having to worry about anyone at my job being like, Greg, go on first take and talk about the Jets. It's never going to happen. I have a theory.

I have a theory about you. Have you to tell you this about my theory with you and the Jets? What's that? You and the New York Jets, I'm convinced you are a fan of the New York Jets for one reason because you are testing how high you can get your blood pressure every year. I know secretly you keep these stats and you're not going to reveal them, but you keep coming back every single season. That's why you're a fan of the New York Jets, bud. It's as simple as what everyone in Toronto goes to.

through every single year, you're born into it. And you can never leave because the minute you leave, it's Hotel California. If they win, then you know what? Then you feel like a schmuck because you jumped off the bandwagon. And you haven't felt the levels of pain everyone else's feeling. So you're going to have to feel the pain. You're going to have to feel that dentist drill, smoking in your holder until one of these

stupid teams wins. And that's the Jets for me. Of course, this year is another year in which they'll be better than they should be thus ruining their draft position and then we're stuck with no quarterback for the next decade. Let me close with this. Let me close with this and get to Aaron. Here's something that you need to know.

Here's something that Zach needs to know about it's trying to make beliefs as well. Remember this. The only free cheese is in the trap. The only free cheese is in the trap. And Leaves fans and New York Jets fans, we live for those moments and we feel the cold steel snapping on our necks. Oh, look, free cheese. the first or second week of the season.

Never going to do that again. The only free choice is in the trial. All right, you enjoy your afternoon. I get a date with Aaron and Walter. Enjoy it. Thanks. See, pal. It is Greg Wasinski from ESPN and ESPN.com.

So here we are. You want to do this now? Well, is it time? It is time. All right? Well, listen, I mean, you know me and you know him. Come on. You've been on with both of us a number of different types.

We're thrilled to be here. Thanks so much for being so hospitable, your entire family and all your friends here so far as people are filtering in now. Aaron Ambrose with the Walter Cup, right in between us here, snuggling. That thing is heavier than the Stanley Cup, correct? I think we should move it back so that I can't look at you. Wow. So you have had a couple already.

That's very, by the way, veteran presence logger is a really nice touch. My brother-in-law made it. I know. It's so nice. It's awesome. Fresh off an appearance in Keswick, hometown. First of all, thanks so much for the hospitality. Like the minute you won the Walter Cup right away,

I think our first conversation is when you have your day, we are doing a show. So this will live in, as we call it, digital stone for the remainder of attorneys. So like I haven't done it personally, but congrats. Like, congrats. Like I know there's a lot of, and you've talked to a lot of people

and you probably had a lot of emotional moments with people as well. But with time comes reflection and context and all these things. And when you see this, you know, sitting in front of you here, this is, for those listening, the Walter Cup,

what runs through Aaron Ambrose's mind? Here in Fenland Falls. At a lovely cottage, by the way, this is a beautiful, but in the family for 60 years, your mom was saying? Oh, man, it's nice. I think, like, I've always

talking about it with my sister yesterday. Thank you. There you go. We went into town to the local ice cream store and I got my favorite moose tracks put in the ice or in the cup and i got emotional doing it and my sister was like why and i'm always emotional but for me i've always dreamed of bringing the stanley cup back here

i've always thought about being able to bring the stanley cup here yeah it's not the stanley cup it's probably my mom's phone going off in the background that's okay um it's not the stanley cup it's the walter cup and i think it hits even more because it's it's now we have our own cup and that's pretty special and this is all i've wanted to do i think since i was 10 years old is have a celebration at the cottage um aunts uncles friends family like it's media yeah dreamed about media being here this guy god if only you guys knew how much he was paying me to be here it's a long check we stroked ambrose off a rich check we stroked no it's just i feel like I knew I got the day of when I was going to get the cup and it was then getting to that day.

And then obviously all the shenanigans around the cup. So now to finally have the day, like I think it doesn't quite feel real. Okay. But I want to get to some of the emotional stuff here in a second too. But like the Walter Cup was a star of social media, was the star of mainstream media, was a star of this weekend. What's the old saying? there is a presence in absence and there was a presence in absence of the Walter Cup all weekend long.

Do you want to walk us through from when you heard about it what you were thinking? Like everything. And I was saying to Greg before he came on too, especially for hockey, Cups need a story. Yep.

You know, like the Colonial Cup went missing and then turned up like 24 or 25 years later in someone's basements. Yeah. But like cups need stories in hockey. And now this cop has a story. Give us, like, walk us through going back to Friday when you first found out about it. Was it Friday?

Thursday. Thursday. Yeah. So I think I had like two different thoughts. Thursday I was like, ooh, I might be late enough that I'm okay. Like I wasn't the next one. But then I also was like, ooh, I could be like the first one that runs into trouble. and then just a lot of moving pieces,

I think just trying to figure out how to get A-cup, obviously. Like, I think this would have happened no matter what. People would have come and celebrate it. Yeah. The people I care about would have been here. But it was more so I wanted to be able to bring Walter back to Keswick, to the town of Georgina. And a lot of phone calls had to be made to kind of figure out logistics and everything.

And thank you to the Minnesota for all. for helping us out because that made things a lot easier for me. It'll probably be the one and the only time that I think that team. But no, like it does mean a lot because it makes today even more special to have Walter here. There's an even, you know, like I was saying, like there's a story attached to all of it now. And we got to. This is Abby. It's not Henry.

I know. It's weird. It's not Henry. Henry's not here. Henry's in Montreal? Yeah, we kept him in Montreal. Henry. Yeah, my boy.

There's another great lab. kicking around here. Quinn. Yes. Quinny is in her in her kennel right, no, her crate right now. Gotcha. She's having an app with Joe.

Very good. Joe had ice cream with you. Right? That's my Uncle Andy. Hello, Uncle Andy. Uncle Andy checking in. Hey, Andy. Good, we're just in the middle of a show if you want to come and hop on here on FaceTime.

That's all good with all of us here. What, have you sort of recontextualized because new thoughts come as time passes the moment you want it because it doesn't really hit you at the time. Not at all. I did actually have a fan today in Keswick

showed me some people lifting the trophy. And that's one game. I rewatched when we won the gold medal. I've rewatched when we won a silver medal. I haven't rewatch the Walter Cup game. You haven't? No. Why not?

Will you? I definitely will. Probably because it usually happens in like the two-week span. And I think we were a little too busy in that two-week span to sit down and watch something and actually pay attention. Nobody was vertical for two weeks on your team. So that probably, like it, I think the biggest thing for me is I sit there and I'm like, I loved my three years a part of the Montreal Victoire

and I won my last game with the victoire and won a trophy. I won a championship. And that's something that's pretty cool to say. And yeah, like, it was a good game.

Would have been nice to sweep, but four was nice. Jeez. I always curious about, oh, by the way, quite the offseason here for Keswick. Yeah. Stanley and Walter. Yeah.

Yeah. Only municipality in all of Canada. Is that right, eh? At least this year. I don't know if Mayor Quirk had that fully right, but I don't know if there's municipality-wise, I'm not sure. What is it about Keswick? I don't go back often. My mom and my dad both live elsewhere now, but I think just for our group, I should say, in the sense of Sean Walker, myself, Chris Tierney, like the three of us played everywhere together until I went to girls hockey. and I think it helped having the three of us, but all three of our dads were on coaching staff for all of our teams moving up through York Simco Express too.

Shout out to Jim and Liz Tierney. I actually stopped by their house after Keswick, and they didn't answer the door, so I took a photo on their doorstep, and I'm going to send that to Chris, but I wish I could have connected with Sean, and it obviously would have been way too many moving parts, especially with Walter's hiatus,

but Is that what you're calling? Yeah. Walter's hiatus. So I think for me, just being able to being able to play with those two guys

in particular, even like I think we've talked about Sean's career. Yep. It's incredible. That's a wild one. Yep.

That's one of the, again, how many times have you and I had the conversation of hockey will always give you a reason to quit? Yeah.

Hockey will give you every excuse to quit. But I don't think there's a, and Sean, never did? No. Ever. And I don't think there's a better person for that to turn out the way that it did for him.

Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. Like, and you look at his year. Like, he doesn't just win the Stanley Cup. He has a kid. Like, it's all within, what, a three-week month span?

I don't know. It's just, it's, we had our York Simco Express alumni golf tournament. And everybody is like, where's Sean? And it's like, well, he's at his parade. Like, he's literally at his parade day. It's a little busy right day. Look online for them. But just all the guys that I play with, like, I think I've done this way too many times.

But like there's Chris, Sean, Taylor Chick, Connor Crisp, Gabe Greco, Adam Broso. Like those guys are people that mean a lot to me, Zach Skubnik. And like to go back there and do that golf tournament with them and still just be one of the people, Andy Monroe, that they're just like, wow. Like we're proud of you. And I'm like, I lucked out. No, you didn't look out. You luck out. Like you worked hard.

Like the story of Aaron Ambrose is hard work and perseverance and blocking shots and injuring yourself and not telling anybody and getting right back into the lineup. Let me ask you about the career and I'm not trying to wrap you up. Yeah. Holy. I'm not trying to wrap. I haven't even stepped foot for my new contract. I don't even know if you have like a house yet to move into in Las Vegas and I want to get there. But right now as it stands, as we speak, you have a Hall of Fame resume. In your opinion, yes.

Where have you not won a championship? You've won a championship everywhere. You've won a championship everywhere. You are the most decorated women's hockey player in the history of Canada. Like you have a Hall of Fame resume. Do you ever think about that? Only when you bring it up to me. No, I'm not the only one that brings this up to you. You are.

No, I'm not. You are. But your resume says Hall of Fame. Thank you. Do you think about that? No. Will you think about that one day? Have you thought about when you will think about it?

No, I think the only time I would ever think about it is if Cassie Campbell, Pascal calls me out of the blue, and I would be like, why are you calling me once I retire? Right. Love you, Cass. So you're not going to bite on the Hall of Fame stuff. Okay, so I'll shift tracks here. Was there ever a point, because you've been very public about your struggles, was there a point where you were going to call it quits and how close were you doing it?

I think there's been multiple. Like I think I got to my first Olympics and it was like, I did it. Yep. Done it. Think of going through the struggles and just how long it took for the PWHPA League, all of that to happen and then to actually get the PWHL. I think there was definitely times at that point that you're just like, when I went through injuries during those times, it was just like, what am I doing?

But it was always the thing that was the glue that held me together was a national team. And those players that are on that team, like it always was just one more tournament with them. Like, I think people probably are like sick of me because it was like after 2026, like when I went to 22, I was like, okay, 26, like I want to go. I want to be there.

want my family to be able to experience it. And that, that'll probably be it. And then I signed a two-year contract and there was like, Aaron, I thought you said, I said, well, my brother-in-law said I can't score, or if I can't retire until I score another goal. So like, we might have five years left in my tank. But it's just, there's always so many, like, there's times when you sit there and you get hit with a roadblock or you get smacked in the face with an injury and you're just like, why am I doing this and then somebody or something brings you back and for me there's a lot of people that have continued to kind of be in my corner um like even this summer having some conversations with somebody like ranada fast and it's like that's somebody i want to go to battle with every single time and

that's a great friend that i want to go alongside her on her journey and want to make our journey kind of together and she's somebody that makes me better on the ice she makes me better off the ice and somebody that without her in my career, I wouldn't, I don't even think I'd be an Olympia. There are moments along the way that are profound and you realize

how things have changed when they happen. I'm sure you've had this experience. I remember with a close friend of mine and his daughter, I remember asking her once, like who her favorite hockey players were and it was all guys.

And then two years later, she had gone to, we took her to her first PWHL game and asked for the same question, it was all women. That was the moment where I'm like, yeah, things have really changed. What was it like the first time you asked a young girl who your favorite hockey player or hockey players were and they answered with women, not guys? Do you remember, is there anything that you remember like that? Because that was a profound one for me. I'm like now like that really feels like a massive massive shift.

I don't know if there was like a stranger or anything, but like my cousin who's out here with her two kids, Sadie was the first great grandchild on my dad's side. And that girl couldn't be a bigger hockey fan. And before Beijing, it was go go, go, Erin. And now it flipped to biggest victoire fan in the world. And as soon as she found out I was going to Vegas. Yeah.

She's old enough, too, that it helps that it's not why. It's, okay, go Vegas. And, like, that's something for me, like, I don't even know if she knows much of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Her dad's a Red Wings fan, so that's unfortunate. But, I mean, like, it's like. We should say you're a Maple Leafs fan. Yeah, yeah. That's why you're saying that about the Detroit Red Wants.

But she's through and through just like, this is her life. She has all these teams and then she goes, oh, the Golden Eyes got a team. Oh, the Torrent got a team. Like, it's like she's up in the know of women's hockey and that's pretty unbelievable. Tell me about Vegas. Tell me about Las Vegas and why Las Vegas for you.

So you're probably wanting to hear, well, this guy, I had a conversation with him when I was unsure and this guy just sat on the phone and he said, Aaron, you won't be unhappy the guy was Jeff. But it was before that. But if it's a massive success, I'll take all the credit. If I'm being honest, talking to Dami throughout,

I had a call with her and a call with Kim Weiss, and I know you're a huge fan of Kim. Kim's amazing. I have all day long for Kim. I mean, it's tough. You sit there and you're like, ooh, an expansion team. Like, that's who are my teammates going to be? Like, I don't know.

And that was one part that I was hesitant about. And then getting to talk with Dami, getting to talk with Kim, and I was just like, they're not going to lead us in a bad direction. And then having Kendall Cooper and May Batherson signed, I was like, that is a decor I want to be a part of right away. And then it just continued to build after that. Like the players that Dami signed in free agency, the players we got in drafts, like I like what we're doing.

It's a really cool place, too. Like, as anyone who's played there. But the thing is, like, what you're going to, what you're going to find out is the stereotype is the strip, but it's not that. That it's so much. Remember Gary Lawless would tell me this all the time. It's not that. It's so much more than that.

What are you looking forward to there? First, getting together with the team, like really meeting everybody. There's a lot of girls that I know of, but I don't know. So just like honestly getting together as a group. And then just getting into the community, whether that be at camps, practices, Aces games, like everything about Vegas

seems to be so excited about our group. So I also cannot wait to play in front of the fans. I've never been to T-Mobile. I've heard that it is an absolute unbelievable atmosphere and I don't think that it'll be

any different for us. I think you're going to have a great time there. I think you're really going to enjoy it. You know, I think you and I have talked about this before. The idea of, you know, use hockey, don't let hockey use you. When you look at hockey as a vehicle for you to do other things, meet other people,

have different experiences. What comes to mind for you? God, why do we have to go so deep? Because Walter's here and we're talking about your career. No, it's just... And you've had a couple of drinks. Yeah, I know. I know, and I would like to go have more.

We can't go deep. Not going to release you yet. I don't know. Like I... I honestly don't know how to answer it because I'm just like, hockey is giving me a lot, but yeah, it's just,

I feel fortunate to have been put in a position, be on teams that just, I think of our national team and the human beings I've been able to surround myself with. Like, obviously I have to give a lot of credit to my mom and my dad and my sister for kind of shaping me into who I am, but the people I've gotten to play with and now get to call friends.

Like, I don't even know if that answers your question, but our national team has been my entire, that is what I take the most pride in. The right answer to that question is the one you're giving. Yeah, the right answer is always people. Yeah. Right? At the end of it, like the right answer is people.

See, look, mom's coming to shut me down. She knows I've got a party to get to. Am I getting the hook here? Okay, let me just surrender. We'll close on this then. Just surrender the floor to you, Aaron Ambrose. Champion, Walter Cup champion. Hall of Fame resume.

Sorry, I'm always going to mention. What, I think I don't know if I've asked you this one on the air before. What do you want people to know about you, not just as a player, but as a person as well? if we could get out of the frame and Walter could get out of the frame, it's this. It's the people that are here today. Like, all walks of life, all such a different group of people. Yeah. It's pretty cool, eh?

Yeah. Is it everything that you thought it would be? When you wanted and you thought, oh, I'm going to get my day. I'll let you know with how I'm feeling tomorrow. Okay. I'll expect a text. I won't expect anything early. Your star, congratulations again.

Thank you. I'm going to steal Walter now. Oh, I can't. Do I get like a couple? No, you have to in the frame by yourself. That's unfortunate. Just the one shot. All right, Walter, it was nice hanging out with you.

But I didn't win you. Oh, that is a heavy, heavy. Jeez. I was going to say. Heavier than the Stanley Cup, right? It is. Aaron Ambrose of PWA, Las Vegas. All right.

Listen, we're going to wrap things up here. Such a nice time, and it's going to be a wonderful party here. People are filtering in. This has been a lot of fun. Hanging out with you here at Finland Falls in a special edition of the sheet. Glad to have you aboard today. Thanks to Greg Wosinski for stopping by. Zach, is your mic hot?

You have a hot mic? Yeah, see, the thing that we have to train Aaron on still here is that the right answer to give in the media would have been the reason going to Vegas is because we're flip-flops and no tax, and then we can clip that and say, even the women's players are going into tax states. They're saying the same thing. They just want to stick as much money in their jeans as possible, just like the dudes.

Aaron's going to have a great time in Vegas, and they're going to love her there, and she's going to love Kim, and Kim's going to love her, and it's going to be a great setup there for everybody involved, and I'm excited to get down to see a game there as well. Anything stand out to you? Zach Ruzzi, who wrap up the program here?

I mean, you're a YSE guy. I mean, I'm sure you like here and YSE here and there. Yeah, it was pretty cool to see, obviously, Sean and then Aaron went in and then talking Aaron about her taking it up to Georgina today back home for them and you know thinking about the fact

that there were two that went through that organization this year and the city of Caswick is it's pretty cool pretty cool to see and then obviously like I watched Aaron growing up as much as Aaron might not want to hear me say that

Hey hang on Ambrose okay come here come here I want you to hear something. I get this all the time, and it makes me feel old. I want to know if this makes you feel old. Tell Aaron what you just told me. Yeah, growing up.

Yeah, my dad used to take me to the ring to watch Aaron play. 28. Yeah. Yeah, that's normal. Oh, okay. I thought it was, like, going to be more profound a difference in age because I get that. Yeah, I used to listen to you when I was younger. Oh, geez.

I watched you growing up. Oh, great. Yeah, thanks. It's not the common. All right, bye. Bye. Bye. We'll see you out in the backyard in a sec.

But, yeah, very cool. Um, what's that? Oh, right. Sorry. See, I, I didn't grow up with a cottage.

Not one of these fan fancy people like you. All right. Bye you. Very cool. Very cool to see. Very cool to see. And as you can probably hear the cheers in the background. Can we get that shot if we're carrying the cup down?

There goes. Everyone's got their phones out taking the shots of, can we get that? That's such a great shot. I get that. Let's get Ambrose. I'm watching on YouTube. I want to make sure she gets this. That's so good.

Ah, it's fantastic. Okay, we'll wrap things up and we'll join the party. Thanks so much for joining us here today on the sheet from Fenland Falls at the Aaron Ambrose Walter Cup Celebration. Family, friends, media, dogs. There's one right there. And you. Thanks so much for being a part of it.

We are back here on the sheet on Thursday at 1 o'clock Eastern. In the meantime, everyone in the chat, thank you. Everybody listening on your favorite podcast platform or watching here on our DFO YouTube. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. We appreciate you. We'll talk to you again on Thursday.