The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Trade-Sanity Continues ft. Pierre McGuire & Jason York

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Jeff Marek is joined by Pierre McGuire and Jason York as trade deadline coverage continues. Reacting to the Tampa Bay Lightning trade with the Seattle Kraken, acquiring Yanni Gourde and Oliver Bjorkstrand, discussing how the Toronto Maple Leafs need to respond, and previewing what the Ottawa Senators trade deadline may look like.Shout out to our sponsors!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼 Tim Hortons: https://www.timhortons.ca/rollupReach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Flames_Nation🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Learn more at Fizz.ca. Switch to Fizz. Kamba Bay Lightning going forward, Seattle cracking, throwing in the towel. Welcome to the sheet. This Wednesday marks the fifth America along with Zach Phillips playing the keyboards in the background. That's actually small town strip club, but keeping the whole show together is Zach Phillips. He'll pop on here in a couple of moments. Pierre Maguire will be aboard NHL Analyst. Pretty big trade to talk about here folks. If you're wondering about how serious the Tampa Bay Lightning are about this season and the Stanley Cup, Yanni Gourd returns. He'll bring Oliver

Bjorkstrand with him in her fifth round draft pick in exchange for two firsts, Michael Asimont as well going back to Seattle. Seattle after losing last night to the Minnesota Wild, Shane Wright with a goal by the way for all of you that are following attention and paying attention to the 2022 draft. Seattle Kraken pretty much saying that's it, we're too far out. We're looking to the future. And we're beginning that by trading Bjergstrand and Yanni Gord to the Tampa Bay Lightning. We'll get Pierre Maguire's thoughts on that one. Also, Jason York from the Coming In Hot podcast from our NHL defenseman will weigh on everything

going on around the Ottawa Senators. We should probably park some time to talk about Brady Kachuck as well, the Ottawa citizen in their letters today printing something about should Brady Kachuk really be the captain of this team I'm telling you I'm telling you keep it up keep it up just keep it up well wait a minute wait a minute what do you see that Ottawa citizen put out out no put a in the in their letters in their letters section today put out the the very first letter was should

Brady Kachuck be the captain of the Ottawa Senators and there's a picture of him and Matthew USA for it up keep it up just keep it up just keep it up like I know we threw a log on the fire yesterday wondering about the anthem and Brady Kachuck's expression but nonetheless keep it up wondering about the anthem and Brady Gachuck's expression but nonetheless keep it up. Keep it up. Hey Tampa's going for it. We have a lot to get to today and I want to get to Pierre McGuire early because we got a lot of stuff on the go here today. A lot of trade speculation, trade happening moments ago. Elliot Friedman the first on this. Pierre Lebrun from TSN and the Athletic filling in some of the blanks on it as well.

So we'll get to that in a couple of moments. The first time, in the first place, Daily Outlines presented by FanDuel, North America's number one sportsbook app provider. I should never buy a new tongue right before the show and break it in here at three o'clock Eastern. Pierre McGuire will stop by, NHL analyst. You know, a few things to talk to Pierre,

but I am curious to see what Pierre thinks about some of the more hot button teams out there that we wonder about specifically in the Eastern Conference starting with, but not exclusive to, the Detroit Red Wings. Also, we'll get his thoughts on the Tampa-Seattle deal, what that means for both squads. Yes, Zach, trades, trades, and more trades. Vitek Vanecek, by the way, goes to the Florida Panthers.

They're looking for a backup. Netminder, take no offense, Chris Drieger, but Vantechek arrives for the Florida Panthers. Possible trades is always fun this time of year, a couple of days in advance of NHL trade deadline. Who could be going where? We'll get into that coming up in a couple of moments. I mean, that's always a sort of, that's like grabbing water.

Like that's a, that's a shifting targets at all times, depending on what happens with the, uh, with the games that evening and five on the board tonight. Uh, as I mentioned, Jason York, former NHL defenseman, someone who, uh, co-hosts the coming in hot podcast with Blake Wallace, he'll stop by and we'll talk plenty about the Ottawa senators in, or did I say Blake? I think you had Blake Price was the Harrison price, Blake Wallace. He'll stop by and we'll talk plenty about the Ottawa Senators in... or did I say Blake? I think it was Blake Price with the Harrison Price, Brent Wallace. I apologize, Wally. First day with the new tongue, first day with the new brain, apparently. And you, first day with the new haircut. Does this mean, by the way, does this mean that your team is out of the playoffs?

No. You told me you're growing the beard, growing the hair. Okay, so this is a small little bunny hop then? Yeah, you know what I, in the words that I explained to Al Berga about the new haircut, sorry for the language, but I looked like shit. So it was time to clean that up and up the level of professionalism here on the show, as I swear. Did not want to be single down the stretch, even though you're a very busy guy. So the Tampa Bay Lightning getting a deal done,

like look, we shouldn't be surprised. I've said before, you've heard the cliche, it is the fool that bets against the Tampa Bay Lightning. And the one thing with Tampa, and I want to get into this with Pierre here in a couple of moments, the one thing about Tampa is the goalie is healthy. When you have a healthy Andre Vasilevsky, you are a contender for the Stanley Cup if your

name or the Tampa Bay Lightning and Julian Breezeboy is your general manager. With that we'll bring on NHL analyst and our good friend Pierre Maguire to the program to talk about this and other potential trades around the NHL. Pierre thanks so much for stopping by as always. This I know is a super busy time for you so I always appreciate it when you stop by and especially in a week like this. Now right away, Tampa, Seattle, I framed it like this to open the show, Pierre. Tampa is all in there going for it.

Seattle is throwing in the towel. Your thoughts on this one? I'm not surprised. If you look at the season that Seattle's had, I think it's been really disappointing for Rodney Francis and the ownership group there. I think they were expecting a lot more from this team. Yeah. It obviously didn't materialize the way they wanted to, Jeff. So I understand where they are in terms of the Tampa Bay Lightning.

I love what you said before I came on. Julian Brizbaugh is a smart guy. He's a slick guy. He's surrounded by really smart people. He's got a real good coach obviously and John Cooper and an outstanding staff of people that know what it takes to win. But I think the biggest thing if you look and you touched on it, Andrei Vasilevsky, and I know everybody's talking about Connor Hellebuck and I know everybody's talking about

Igor Shosturkin and I get it, there are a lot of really good goalies in the league. Right now, Andrei Vasilevsky is playing as well or better than any goalie in the league and I don't mean any disrespect to those other guys, they're all really good goalies in the league. Right now, Andrei Vasileski is playing as well or better than any goalie in the league. And I don't mean any disrespect to those other guys. They're all really good, including Vabrovsky, who's the defending champion when it comes to the Stanley Cup. So they got that. They got Victor Hedman that's playing at another level. They got Braden Point and Anthony Cirelli that are playing great right now, coming out, especially coming out, and Brandon Hagel too, coming out of the foreign Asians. And then the other thing, Jeff, that I think is really important to keep Kutcher off just warming up. He's just getting warmed up. So, you know, I look at this whole thing with Tampa, they're legit. And I know a lot of people push them to the side. I've carefully not. The one thing I would caution

everybody, do not be in the two, three hole in the Atlantic division. If you're in the two, three hole, a real good team's going to win. So if I'm Toronto, I'm winning. Just load up and just keep winning. What points do you have there? That takes us to an interesting area here, and that is Florida's made a big move. They may make others, we'll see.

Bring in Seth Jones. Now Tampa has made their big move. If you're Brad Treleving, general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs, do you need to follow with something here? Toronto is facing off against Vegas tonight. We expect, you know, Kelly McCrimmon keeps saying, oh, we're going to be quiet. We're going to be quiet.

Like, I'm like, you know what? The name's Tucker, not sucker. You know, sell that to the, sell that to the tourists. I'm one of the locals. We've seen this act before, but nonetheless, if you're the Maple Leafs, do you need to respond here? Yeah, you do. You know, I used to have the trade deadline all the time.

I used to talk to Bobby McKenzie and Gordon Miller all the time about. This team's done that, that team's done this. These guys need to respond. And if they don't, they're not going to win. And you can go track that back to 1999 even, you know, when it really became a big thing, the trade show became a big thing starting in late 90. And, and I would say, look, Toronto's got some things that they got to work out. Toronto's got to work out the third center position.

And I still think they need a top end puck mover on the back end. Somebody that can clearly run a power play and help out. I don't like the scheme of five forwards, Jeff. I just don't like it. I don't think it's good. And it's too easy in the playoffs when you play a team every other night, you know, for 14 nights, it's too easy to load up and take away options when you're planning against five forwards.

I can just tell you that right now. So all, all that being said, I do think that they need to respond, but I haven't seen a Toronto team this good since Pat Quinn was running it. I really haven't. So what's the difference then? You know, like there's, I see one casualty here and that's Morgan Riley is having a real hard time playing defense the way that Craig Berube wants.

I mean, he doesn't gallop the puck out of the zone anymore. Berube wants the fenceman to stay around the net. Mind your knitting, clean up your room, young man. Like that's the style. Like that's what Berube wants his defenseman to do. But that seems to really be the only casualty here. Every year we're all guilty of saying the same thing about the Toronto Maple Leafs. This year feels different.

And then it's the same results Why Pierre is it different this year comma again? Because they're playing playoff games in the regular season. They're not blowing teams out every game is tight They're playing a playoff style So the fence them in our learning how to defend the way he wants them to center men are grinding on face-offs Especially a guy like David camp. Everybody knows that Austin Matthews and Johnny Tavares are gonna win faceoffs. They need other guys to win faceoffs.

I know Max Domi hasn't had a great year offensively, but he's doing things, whether it's playing right wing on the first line or playing center on the third line or pinch hitting on the second line. He's providing them energy, he's providing some grit, he's providing some defensive awareness. But I think the biggest thing is Christopher Tanof is there,

Oliver Ekman-Larsen's there. These are really important players for this team. And I think they stole the summer last summer, Jeff, and I don't know if you've talked about it before, but getting stole ours on two years at $2.5 million a year was huge. And that insulates Wall obviously. And I just think Tron, they're deeper, they're better,

and they understand how to play playoff hockey. You know what it kind of feels like? I'm a big baseball guy and always been a big Blue Jays fan. And listen, so I grew up watching the Toronto Blue Jays having wonderful seasons in the AL East. Again, there's the Yankees and there's the Red Sox, and it didn't matter how well the Blue Jays did, it's going to be the Red Sox or it's going to be the Yankees. And you look at this Maple Leafs team and around them are Stanley Cup

winners in Tampa, in Florida, in the Boston Bruins in 2011. Uh, I, one of the things, and again, it's going to sound like, and I don't have a, you know, I don't have a horse in this race. I really don't care. But if you're looking at the Toronto Maple Leafs, you look at yourself and you, you say, if don't have a horse in this race, I really don't care. But if you're looking at the Toronto Maple Leafs, you look at yourself and you say, if they played in a different division, how would we feel about the Toronto Maple Leafs right now?

If it was the team that played in the Metropolitan, how would we be feeling about the Toronto Maple Leafs and didn't have to go up against Tampa and Florida and Boston all these years? Yeah, no, you'd feel real good about them, I think. Honestly, you would know the one caveat to that is in 16 and 17, you had a pretty good team from Pittsburgh. You know, and you had some pretty good New York Ranger teams and you had some pretty good Carolina teams.

But I'm with you on that. I think that's a really good thing. Jeff, I don't know, again, if you've talked about it much, I think the playoff format needs to be looked at by the board of governors and the competition committee. I really do. I'm not trying to make excuses for anybody, but I, you know, Tampa, Florida, Toronto, do you really want one of those teams or maybe two of those teams out in the first round?

I don't think so. I wouldn't. What would you prefer? One versus eight. Yeah. I was kind of hoping you were going to go Quebec League and say 1 v 16. Like it used to be. I'm old enough to remember and I think you are too.

I remember watching the LA Kings play against the New York Rangers in a best three out of five. One of my former players, Larry Murphy, was playing for the LA Kings in that series. And you know, that was kind of crazy when you think about it. I don't think Teas would want to pay that kind of money just to fly teams back and forth in the first round. Was that, hang on, okay. I, I'm going to go a little bit off, off, off script here a little bit, but

there was a Kings Rangers, I think it was a series or a home and home where there was a big brawl and they were both on the same, this is before everyone had charters, they were both on the same flight going back to LA. And apparently it was one of those like, I've heard this Pete, you know what Pete Weber told me the story because he was, he would have been with the Kings and he's like, it was one of the quietest flights we'd ever been on.

Cause these guys just like beat the crap out of each other and then had to hop on the same plane. Cause these guys just like beat the crap out of each other and then had to hop on the same plane. Well, I just got done working at Mary LeMue's fantasy camp and Larry Murphy was there. He was on my team. And Larry and I were reminiscing about old days and things we had done and all this stuff.

And that's one of the things that came up cause I was talking to him about playoffs. And I said, you know, Larry, I'd like to see it go one through eight. He goes, yeah, a lot of good teams get knocked out early in this format right now. And then he said, well, when I played, there was once in LA, 0-1 versus 16. And that's how it went. He says, we played the Rangers.

And he goes, can you imagine like doing that coast to coast? I don't know if guys would be in the mood to be doing that in the first round. I understand that. Now here, this, this is the counter argument that I, that I always throw at, you know, the, the, the, the reformat, the playoffs argument. So knowing that playoffs are the war of attrition, we've all heard about it. You need to load up, you know, what you look like at the end is not what you look like at the beginning. We all understand that's one of the things we love about hockey. There's a big part of me, Pierre, that says, you know what? I want two teams. I want the two best teams. like at the end is not what you look like at the beginning. We all understand that's one of the things we love about hockey.

There's a big part of me, Pierre, that says, you know what, I want two teams, I want the two best teams I can find to face off against each other at the height of their powers. Like I want Tampa and Florida, or Toronto and Tampa, or whomever in that mix, I want them to face off against each other when they're at their freshest.

I don't want to see them a couple of rounds in, I want to see them right away. It means that one team's going home, really good teams going home, but would you cozy up to that argument at all that you'll get the best hockey this way, at least in the first round? If I was in the media, I'm totally on Jeff Merrick's side.

If I'm a manager or a coach, I'm not on Jeff Merrick's side, if I'm a manager or not, I'm not termed by it. I'll give you an example. Last year, Tampa plays four layer in the first round. It's a five game series. It's over in five games. Tampa goes home.

I'm not sure that they're buying in on that in Tampa. Um, you know, a lot of the margin and Jeff, this is, I don't, I hate to beat people up with the economy of hockey because we got enough stuff going on. Yep. A lot of these teams are budgeted to get to the second round. If they don't get to the second round, they're not making money. And I know people don't want to talk about that.

And I know every day is hunky dory in the NHL. You get all the messaging and the salary. I get everything, but I'm just telling you the reality of this business. I've seen life budgets in the NHL. I've been in front office. I know what the dollars and cents are. It's not as profitable a business as a lot of people think. So let me, let me use that to dovetail to Vancouver then, because Vancouver is very much a get into the playoffs.

We're not taking a step back. We're not, you know, we're not taking a couple of steps back here and going to run it back again in a couple of years. Like the Vancouver Canucks organization very much feels like just get in every year. Just get in. Don't worry about next year. Just get in. Do you think that is complicating things right now for Jim Rutherford and Patrick Alveen?

Where we may look at this and Pederson's having the season that Pederson is having. And now Quinn Hughes, who's not going to play tonight, something happened in the game against Seattle. And this is the last Vancouver Canucks game before the trade deadlines. We wonder if it's the last time we're going to see Brock Besser. Do you think that the just get in because the owner's got to make a little bit of money here? Do you think that complicates the Vancouver Canucks at deadline? I don't this year. I really don't. They've had so much drama going on around their team.

I think the bigger questions, how are they set up for the future? You know, what are you going to do with Rick Tauke and his contracts up at the end of the year? How does Jim Rutherford, How does he respond to this? You know, this has clearly been an underwhelming year for them The expectation was a lot greater than where they are right now, Jeff I think you would agree with that. So I don't think the ownership part complicates their decision-making I think they're kind of focusing in on we'll do our best to try to make it this year But we're gunning up to be down the road.

Realistically, do you see them beating a healthy Dallas team or a Vegas team? No. I don't. I'm just being realistic. I just don't see that happening right now. It's underperformance and poor health. Last year, everything worked great. They were healthy, everybody performed, career years up and down the lineup,

they were all winning all the hardware, all of it. And you know, PDO benders for a lot of guys, like the whole team. So like, and then this year, like this is just the reality of a really tough hockey season. And generally, like every now and then there's a couple of teams that can escape it

and dodge a little bit, but 82 games is hard. Like 82 games tests your depth. 82 games tests what you have under the hood. Like this is like, they weren't going to have another season like they did last year where everything worked out perfectly. Pierre. You know, it's interesting, Jeff, you talk about that and I couldn't agree with you more than the other side of it is there's one team in the West.

It's like that Vancouver where there's been a lot of drama. There's one team in the East. It's like that. They're starting to surge a little bit. The New York Rangers. there's one team in the West that's like that Vancouver where there's been a lot of drama. There's one team in the East that's like that. They're starting to surge a little bit, the New York Rangers. And so this is almost kind of be a race for both of those teams to see if they can get in.

With all the drama that's been around both teams right from the start of the year, it's been amazing to watch. The one thing I would say, and I don't know what happened in Vancouver with JT Miller and all the other players. I don't know and I really don't wanna know. All I can tell you is since JT Miller got to the New York Rangers,

they've become a really good team. They've gotten to the level where they were supposed to be playing all year long. And Chris Jury's already made a move. Do you see them being even more active here before Friday at 3 Eastern? I do. I think they will be. I really do. I think they will be. Whether it's adding another defense or the one thing I would say diff about Rangers too. There are a lot of guys got looking to mirror on that defense. They haven't gotten better this year. I know they're dealing with an Adam Fox injury situation. Counting a lot more on Keandre Miller to be better. He hasn't been was counting a lot more on Braden Schneider to be better. He hasn't been Ryan Lindgren before he got traded was dealing with a whack injuries, but he wasn't playing really well to be fair.

So there are a lot of guys there that haven't gotten better and they need them to get better. Um, the most interesting seller to you, Pierre this time around for, for me, it's the Buffalo Sabres who I believe could do anything. I think Kevin Adams has everything on the table, like Jordan Greenway is resigning and I also, you know, I, I, I, I, anything. I think Kevin Adams has everything on the table. Like Jordan Greenway is resigning. And I also, you know, I, I, I, I, I don't know that he's the only one that

ends up, uh, resigning there, but nonetheless, like I, I think that Kevin Adams would entertain conversations on anybody on that roster, agree, disagree. I do as well. So here's my caveat to the whole thing. If ownership decides that, you know what, we've seen enough from this management team, let's just pull the reins back. We're going to address our needs in the off season. If we don't see them being active going into the the trade deadline, uh, then I, I think that that could be a problem for upper management

there. That can be a problem. The interesting thing about that is too, like we, you know, last night was a real tough one. So last night, the San Jose Sharks, uh, go into the KeyBank. It's back to back for one of the worst teams in the NHL.

Like, you know, it's, and it's, so it's, it's, it's lining up. I get, it could be a good night for the Buffalo Sabres here. Unfortunately, it wasn't, and third period rolls around, and the Seattle rolls, rolls all over the Buffalo Sabres, and the awkward thing there is, and I'm guessing on this, but considering it's trade deadline week,

I'm guessing everybody was there. Like, everybody from Sabres, like everybody is there. And it, and like, listen, the building was quiet outside of the fire. Kevin chance. It must have made for one of the most uncomfortable experiences for that entire management group. And that's the message that Buffalo Sabres fans are, are sending right now. So listen, I'm with you.

Like if Terry Pagula decides that, hang on a second here. No, we need a real course correction at a lot of levels. And we heard that at the beginning of the season. If there's no playoffs, there's going to be pink slips. And I still do wonder whether that actually happens. Does it feel that way to you? I still do wonder whether that actually happens. Does it feel that way to you? I don't know, but what I found curious the other day,

watching the Montreal game on Monday night, with Montreal getting that quick three-nothing lead, and then you see the wherewithal and the compete from the Buffalo Sabres, especially Rasmus Dallin. I was really impressed with the way he competed physically and athletically, which is a good sign for them because they need him to be one of their best players. But here's the thing on that, Jeff. I didn't see Kevin Adams in the box.

See, they showed the box upstairs and they showed an assistant coach upstairs and they showed maybe a pro scouts, but there was no general manager there. So whether he was out scouting or whether he was home monitoring and working the phones, I don't know what Kevin Kevin was doing and I'm not trying to speculate about anybody's job because I hate look I've been fired twice and it's not a lot of fun. It's just not a lot of fun to be fired But I would just tell you that if we don't see a lot of movement or some Mental I think because ownership said you know enough we've seen it. We're course correcting

I think because ownership said, you know, enough. We've seen it. We're course correcting. Uh, let me ask about a couple of other things. If it was a real and first of all, um, I think Shannon Hogan did a great job with this interview and Brock Nelson really tried to keep it together. And that's a bench side interview with, with Shannon last night, but you can tell how much he's feeling it and how much he's, he's wearing it right now. Do you have a thought on the Islanders?

You have a thought on Brock Nelson and you know, we'll play the video a little bit later on here on the show, but that was a, uh, like we always wonder about real moments that was a real moment for Brock Nelson. You really was. And I liked the way you presented that too, cause I think that's the fair way to do it. Shannon did do a very good job on that. No, those are hard interviews to do as you know, when the emotion kicks in. It's I did that with team Mussolini in 2007 after

they won the cup. And it was, I said to him after I said, team of men, you almost made me ball. I know what you're like. Um, so yeah, no, that stuff happened. Brock is so, as you know, Brock's a good player and he's a valuable player. And he, he, I would say that anything less than a first round pick one of

the owners for Brock Nelson, I wouldn't trade. I mean, I wouldn't trade them, but they probably will. They probably will trade them. How many teams can find center ice men like him? You know, we keep hearing, you gotta get that to center. You gotta get that. Could you imagine if Brock Nelson was your third line center in Toronto? Yeah. How that's the, would that, could you imagine if Brock Nelson was your third line center in Toronto? Yeah.

That's like, would that fit? Like, do you want to talk about the ultimate luxury item? Like, wait a minute, you have Brock Nelson as your, as your third line center? I had this amazing dream that Brock Nelson ends up in Toronto and Roman Yossi ends up in Toronto. Well, let's see. Let's play the age and gain. That, let's see. Fancy Island. Let's play the age and gain.

That's a Judd Muldaver client. I believe there's some other significant Judd Muldaver clients on the Toronto Maple Leafs there. It's kind of a Wasserman friendly team. I'm just throwing logs on the fire. But you know what here, but okay. So that brings us to one more team. This is fun with you because we can bounce

all over the place here and you're sort of leading me here, I love this. So, Robin Yossi with the Nashville Predators, that's a big win last night for them over the Boston Bruins, but man, the wheels came off the wagon early for the Nashville Predators and they're never able to get the car back on the road once it went into the ditch.

What do you do if you're Barry Trotz at this point? I mean, I know everyone's sort of circling around the Ryan O'Reilly's of the team, but man, you're Barry Trotz here, relatively new general manager. What do you do? I'd be watching University of Massachusetts at Amherst. They got a player there, Cole O'Hara, that's one of the leading scorers in college hockey, draft pick of theirs. I'd be trying to get him out of school

once the season was over. He's gonna be a very good pro player. But in all seriousness, I would be desperately trying to get some youthful enthusiasm into my lineup and be a harder team to play against physically. I don't know what happened there. And it's a curious exercise. I think you would agree.

Barry and Andrew Burnett, I remember watching them in Portland, you know, and Bruno was such a good player at that level and obviously a real good goal score in the NHL, but I remember watching those guys, Barry was coaching and Andrew was playing in Portland and you know, they won the Caller Cup. I mean, there was an edge to those teams. They were a nasty piece of business to play against. I don't see Nashville being like that. Do you, Jeff? I just don't see that.

The weird thing about that is, Pierre, if you go back like historically with Nashville and going back to day one and you were there, they've always had a bite to them. Hey, they've all played there. Keep going. Keep going. Like Darcy Hortichuk. Like there's so many guys that have Jim McKenzie like go all the way through. There's so many, they always had something. They always had sluggers, always had some nastiness. I mean, the one thing that they've always tried to find is more goal scoring.

The whole thing was built on goalies in the back end, as we all know, but you're right. Like the bite's not there with Nashville anymore. You're 100%, you're 100% right with that one. And it's weird for me because I like to think I'm a good friend of Barry Trotz. I've known him a long time. And I know what kind of hockey he likes. And I don't think his team's playing the kind of hockey like, and I know Andrew Burnett.

I've known him since he played in Owen Sound. And he played on a line with Kirk Mulpey and Scott Walker. That's how far back I go with this guy. Okay, like- Led the OHL in scoring. Couldn, couldn't skate cement in the boots. A 150 points points. And like, could you imagine that was a line in a junior Malpy Walker and LN 98 I mean, it's just amazing to watch.

And, uh, you know, I'm why I'm going, okay, both these guys, I know them. They're tough guys. They're hard guys. Why isn't their team like that? Usually the team takes on the persona of the people that are leading the team. And for whatever reason, that's not happening. It's a bizarre one. Um, speaking of toughness, Matthew Olivier gets a nice contract extension here.

Good on him. Um, it is a six year, a six year deal, $18 million, $3 million on the AV. You know, we mentioned luxury items a second ago. Uh, here's a guy who's the toughest player with all the respect, toughest fighter in the NHL, plays third line, starts games, uh, straightens everybody out who looks sideways at any of the kids. Uh, so happy this guy got rewarded. Um, good on Columbus, good on Cortex would be the agency there.

Um, just a real nice, real nice deal for Mathieu Olivier. Good, good to see him ring the bell and get some security. They're kind of, that's the keyword, the security. I'm so happy for him. And I'm really happy for Jake Evans in Montreal, almost as yeah, kind of playing four years, 3 million, you know, almost $3 million a year. 2.85, I think a year. There's one other guy I would like to see get security.

I think Ryan Donato's played on five teams in the NHL. Yes. Yeah. Boston, Minnesota, San Jose, Seattle, Chicago. I think I got it right. He's got 23 goals, I think, right now. You would agree. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he merits security. And you know, you talk about all these agencies, his agents, Matt Cater, Matt Cater's done some huge contracts, Zdeno Chara being one of them. And you go down the line of some of his clients, Adam Fox, you know, Chris Kreider, Alex Kalornim and some of his clients. That's another guy. You know, he's near the end.

He's closer to the end than he is at the beginning. So here's what I thought of. So I'm glad you mentioned Jake Evans because I was thinking about teams who didn't get know, he's near the end. He's closer to the end than he is at the beginning. So here's what I thought of. So I'm glad you mentioned Jake Evans because I was thinking about teams who didn't get Jake Evans and is the pivot Ryan Donato like Montreal resigns, resigns Evans. So who's going to pivot and look at Ryan Donato now and the team that popped out at me right away, the Dallas stars.

So you didn't rehearse this show. Could you see Dallas? Dallas Stars is where I think there's a fit for him. Yes. 100% agreed. And again, we don't rehearse this. We don't talk about the show. No. Come up.

I'm glad to be with you. That's the team where I think it's the best thing for him. It is interesting. Dallas, I still don't think that Jim Nel is anywhere close to that. I could see Ryan Donato there. Um, I, I still think that Jim Nel wants to swing for the fence here. Um, I think that there were times where they were very interested in like Nazem Kadri and Rasmus Anderson, things have gone the way they have in Calgary

and they're not going to let them go unless there's a major change of heart. Although I do, I'll tell you Pierre, I did wonder if things went south against Philadelphia, would that change Craig Conroy's decision on his players? I know they all have term, so you're not forced into it, but you know, right? Like it's like, it was like Philadelphia

last year, no, we're not going to do it. No, we're not going to do it. And then trade deadline comes around. Yeah, okay. We're going to do it. And it's trade, trade, trade, trade. What's the value? I'm curious because he's one of my favorite players in the league

and he doesn't get a lot of exposure. Cause Calgary is not a national TV team. They're just not at this point. What about Rasmus Anderson? The value of that play? What's his value? We sign up. I try to, I would do everything that I could to resign them.

So we agree. I think he's worth more to you as a signed player than he is as a traded player. Yes. So we agree on that. Especially when you look at like all the young defenders coming in, all the young defenders for the Calgary Flames coming in, like I would have Rasmus Anderson there.

Again, it's up to him. It takes two, but I mean, to me, he's much more valuable as an asset to keep, not takes two. But I mean, to me he's, he's much more valuable as, as an asset to keep as not just as an investment for the team right now, but also for all those young defenders on the right. Listen, man, Zayn Parekh is common. Zayn Parekh is common with Calgary flames. And I can't think of anyone else better in that organization to have Zayn

Parekh learn from the Rasmus Anderson or have there for Zayane Parek. This guy is, you know, Pierre, is special. This guy is special. I don't want to make hockey Canada people mad at me, but we have an explanation, please. I know. You know, it's funny. And here's the name. Unfortunately, the end was tragic for him.

But, you know, I look at Zane Parek and how he can take over games. The only other guy from the back end, was tragic for him. But you know, I look at Zayn Parekh and how he can take over games. The only other guy from the back end really that I saw with my own eyes, take over games in the OHL like that was Brian Fogarty. Foggy was really the guy. I had the privilege to coach him, um, you know, in Pittsburgh and, uh, very tragic what happened there, very, very tragic. You know, the one thing very tragic what happened there. Very, very tragic.

You know, the one thing I would say, there's a guy named Christopher Pronger that wasn't bad taking all the games. Just to say the least bit. I should probably throw Peterborough Pete Pronger in there too. I did watch him. I just, I didn't.

Not as me. Nah. A lot more. We have a very good relationship. I wanna maintain that. But he, but the thing is I'll, I'll, I'll separate, I'll separate Pronger because there was a, there was a nastiness that he had that, that, that had, that was without equal. And whether he was playing in the OHL or playing in the, the NHL, starting with starting with the Hartford Whalers, as you well know. Um, there was, there was no one else like, no one else like Chris Brawner, no one else. Not in that era. You know, I called the day we got him in the draft, Brian Burke,

masterful getting that done by the way. Brian never gets enough credit for that. That was at the draft floor in the Coliseum in Quebec, no air conditioning. Everybody was melting on the floor. It was so hot there that day. Um, I called Scotty Balman right after we drafted Pronger and I said, how did you coach Larry Robinson? And he told me a bunch of different things. And I started to implement some of those things with Chris when we got him.

Yeah. And one of them was to get him to move his feet because it was too easy a game. He was playing in a rock and shit. So we'd get behind him and those days I could skate okay. And I'd get up and hit him with my stick. And one day I thought I was gonna turn around and Tom Hawking me right over the head.

Wow, and he would have played in one of the most unique barns too. He played in Peterborough. We had those like really, really tight corners. Like he's, and it was like, if you think of, I guess Niagara would have, Niagara Falls would have been really, really tiny at that point too. St. Mike's certainly Niagara Falls, right?

Fogarty was in Niagara Falls. Yeah. Now he was, he was, he was, he was, um, he was in Niagara Falls thunder. Um, but that was a bit of a nasty time playing against Chris Pronger and Peterborough. Okay. Um, really quickly, uh, a couple of things, a couple of a nasty time playing against Chris Pronger and Peter Burrow. Okay, really quickly, a couple of things left. The team that you're most interested in now at Deadline,

whether it be buying or it be selling, we'll leave you on this one. Which one has got your curiosity? Toronto, buying. I'm really curious to see how much they wanna push into the middle of the table to try to go all in. I really want to see that. I think they know they have a real special thing going on there. They've got a real good coaching staff. They've got elite players. I think their depth and goal is really good.

They're built to try to win now. So I think that's the team I'm most curious to see what they do within the next, you know, 48 hours or so. I did mention, I was going to ask you about the Detroit Red Wings off the top. So let me ask you where is, I mean, patience lasts a certain point. Um, it is Steve Iserman, albeit we started this conversation off talking about Tampa and the foundations there were laid by Steve Iserman. Um, your thoughts on the ISER plan, where it's at now and where it's at come Friday, three o'clock Eastern. I think it was a lot better once they made a coaching change, no disrespect meant to the previous coaching staff.

But since they made the coaching change, it's been a much better team. Um, that's number one. So that Steve deserves a lot of credit. That's a hard thing to do. It's a real hard thing to let a coach go that you really like a lot. And he did that. And, um, so I respect him for that. I think he's done some really good things with Sean Harkoff and Chris Draper and their

amateur scouting staff. They've been really good on it. They stockpile a lot of players down in Grand Rapids. You got a lot of guys outside the NHL that are really high end prospects. I wouldn't be surprised to see them maybe move some of those prospects to try to get established players to put themselves over the top. Look at the development of Simon Edvinson this year. Oh yeah.

Jeff. Man, everybody talks about Maureen Sider. I remember being at a game in Frelunda and Khorkov was there, Draper was there, and Hock and Anderson was there. Like it was just, it was unbelievable. I mean, just to watch Simon. So, you know, he's become, I think he's gonna be one of those breakout players next year. People are gonna say, holy moly, this guy's really good. Marco Casper, I can't get enough of watching this. So that's love. The hockey, he's an eye test player, right?

He's a guy, you don't look at the numbers with him. He's a guy that makes stuff happen. Board plays good, slot area presence good, can play center, can play wing, physical, not intimidated. He's everything you want. Legit. Listen, you're parked a lot of time with us today. Much appreciated, my good friend.

Enjoy the rest of your day and enjoy Trade Deadline. Saturday, 3 p.m., it is all over. Thanks, pal. Thank you very much, Jeff. I appreciate it. Have a great rest of the week. There he is, the great Pierre McGuire who joins us here on a regular basis on the sheet and a long time NHL analyst and he's done it all as either an analyst or a coach or a manager

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Zach Phillips anything stand out from our conversation up here for you? Yeah I liked the dream that he had I think I've had similar dreams. Okay. Toronto and Roman Yossi and that kind of stuff. I didn't mind that dream. But I liked what he said about having to respond and Toronto having to respond. I put it in the chat there. That's the poll that's up right now. And I put four options.

Does Toronto need to respond after the Florida Tampa trades? Yes, and they will. Yes, but they won't. No, but they will. And no, and they won't. Right now it seems like the leading candidate is yes but they won't at 51% I mean here they're said they need to respond and I agree a hundred percent you have to respond look how many times have they walked away from deadlines with their hands in their

pockets and you've watched Florida Tampa Boston Carolina's tried it they've all gone and made trades. And I know people, and I do agree for the most part, I've said, you don't win the Stanley Cup at the deadline. That's true, it's the moves you make elsewhere. But we watch all these other teams around us here, and I'm saying us, like I'm on the team. What number do you wear?

Typical. Yeah, but you watch all these teams around Toronto, that is watching them going and adding and getting better every single year. You like Toronto won one trade deadline, in my opinion, Jeff, and they got Jake McCabe and they got Ryan O'Reilly and they won a round. Whether you want to chalk that up to luck or whatever it may be, they won one deadline, I thought.

Since then and before then hasn't really happened. I just, I just can't feel, I can't feel comfortable walking away from a deadline of not really doing much. So I agree with Pierre, you got to go on, you got to make some things happen. You just have to try. This will cost. You see, here's what you have to be comfortable with. This will cost you Easton Cowan, Frazier Minton, first round draft pick, Ben Danford. By the way, you're talking to the right person though Ben Danford Ben Danford looks so good in Oshawa I don't know how many Oshawa generals he looks awesome I know Danford looks really good that's a great pick I know

you're talking to the wrong person though I'm comfortable with that I know those guys are great players I know that they're they are probably going to be solid NHL players, reliable NHL players. But every year you look around and say, hey, we've got a team that can win now. But oh, wait, we're not willing to sacrifice something that might help us win in three to five years because because they're there. And I get it. There's balancing these things. But like I will point to you just say this is a team that we think can win, let's go.

But here's the thing, the great teams don't, right? You know what I find the great teams do? They fire off all their fireworks during the year and then they take the summer and say, okay, here's where we're gonna clean up our cap. We'll worry about it in the summer. Best example of that is Vegas. And that's why even though Kelly McCrimmon's going around

and saying, oh no, it's gonna be a silent night around, nobody believes them. Because that's not how they do business. They just like shoot the lights out in the regular season, spend it all and then clean it all up in the off season. And that's what Tampa and that's what Tampa is doing. That's what Florida has done. And that's what they've done. And what do they all have in common? Dave wants to only have got cups. Yeah, cups. Yeah. And they might flame out like

the penguins. Yeah, they're in. Let's call the penguins in Chicago's current situation situation shambles. Let's just use that word to describe where they're at. They won cups though. Is that not the goal? Like you told me that Burke tells you one team wins the cup. Why not try your best to be the team that does it? Right.

It might not work. I got to say it. So we're halfway through the show yesterday. I'm going to get to Jason who's standing by it. So Bricky texts me halfway through the show yesterday. I'm gonna get to Jason who's standing by it So Bricky texts me halfway through the show yesterday I tried to my best Brian Brooke voice. This line is never not funny and around this time of year and Free agency I get the same text from I'll get one today Merrick I checked with the league again. They're still only handing out one cup

It's never not funny. They're still only handing out one cup. It's never not funny. They're still only handing out one cup this year, bud. I just checked with the league again. Only one cup. Let's get to the York Chop. Our good friend Jason Yerck from the Coming In Hot Podcast joins me here on the sheet. Jason, I don't know if you got the memo, but Brian Burke would like to remind everybody he checked with the NHL and they're only awarding one Stanley Cup again this year. Can you believe it? Oh, yeah, it's funny how that works. Isn't it Jeff? They only give one every year. Everybody wants it and you got there's only one team happy every year and that's the team that wins the Stanley Cup. So yes.

Exciting day today. Uh, talks are off. Uh, it's an exciting day so far and we'll see what happens between now and, uh, now and Friday at three o'clock Eastern. By the way, looking very dapper Yorkie. I got it. I got it. Yeah, you're looking sharp. Like, I don't know, you dragged a razor across your face, maybe a little bit, at least on the sides. Maybe you got the mustache going a little bit. Like, you combed the, you combed the setters nice. You look, you're looking good York Chow. You're looking good. I'm on the sheet here.

We had to take off the hat, put a little moose in there. You gotta look good. Your, your ear game's on point. Uh, no, this is like, I look like the craft. My hair, like dude, you know what I've, you know what I've realized in my life? I, my hair looks like the Kraft peanut butter bear. Like next time you're at the grocery store, go to the, go down the aisle where they have the peanut butters and the jams and go grab the craft and look at, that's my hair looks like the Kraft peanut butter bear. Like next time you're at the grocery store, go to the, go down the aisle, where they have the peanut butters and the jams

and go grab the Kraft and look at, that's my hair. The Kraft peanut butter hair, look, is that it? That is my hair. Does the Kraft peanut butter bear have hair? I didn't, I gotta, so obviously now it's because you're saying. It's the loaf that I have on my head right now, bud. That's me. All right, that's my ass designer.

I gotta go to the grocery store, it. Okay so now that you've cleaned yourself up now you have to actually leave the house Yorkie that's your next battle you can't just stay in a watch hockey games and open tins you gotta actually leave the house how about that. Well I am leaving I'm leaving the house I've got an assignment tomorrow to check out the Kraft peanut butter bear and I better go to I guess I could I guess I've got an assignment tomorrow to check out the Kraft peanut butter bear. And I better go to, I guess I could, I guess I could go online and get a picture, but it's better to see it in person. Giving you homework.

Okay. So a couple of things, where are the Ottawa senators at in advance of trade deadline? And I do want to park a little bit of time to talk about Brady Kachuk, but first, where are the, where are the sends at, as you can see it right now? Well, I'll tell you, Josh, they are currently, uh, one point out of the playoffs, which is a, which is a spot they haven't been in and I don't know, seven or eight years, like being this late in the season and being still in the

game, still having skin in the game, something to play for. I think they're exactly, you know, our players always think they're going to be a little bit better, but I think they're exactly where Steve Spidey is, Dave Boola and Michael Arnbauer and the whole staff, they're thought they were, where they would be. And that's battling for one of those wild card spots right now, because that's truly where they are. And I think that's a good place for them right now. And the nice thing about them, Jeff, they control their own destiny. Like their schedule coming up, their plan, all

the teams that are surrounding those last two wild card spots. So it's, you know what? I'm a glass half, a half full guy. This is exciting as a player, as a former player, this is what you want. A chance to make the playoffs. You control it.

Tonight they got to win that game and they got a massive game against the Rangers on Saturday. As a player, as a former player, this is what you want. A chance to make the playoffs, you control it. Tonight they gotta win that game and they got a massive game against the Rangers on Saturday. So I think it's exciting times right now in Ottawa and I think you're in a good place. Ottawa faces off against Chicago. The one thing that you look at a game like this and you can talk to me as a player,

and I don't like saying ex-player. Once you play in the NHL, you're a player. Jason Yerr, NHL player. And I don't like saying ex-player. Like once you play in the NHL, like you're a player. Like Jason York, NHL player. But, so these are games that you can't squander. Like the Maple Leafs lost one earlier this week against the San Jose Sharks. Yeah, you look at it and go, happens. But when you're, you know the feeling, right? Like when you're battling, like these are the ones

you have to have, right? Like going into this game and getting started. This is one where we're taking two, we're taking two points. The, the problem is, like I mentioned, there's so many teams hovering around those last two spots, so you got to bank these two points tonight. And I, and, and I don't think like we had our pod this morning. I don't think they're going to get off to a slow start. Cause the good thing is you just had two games where you had two atrocious starts. You got behind in the San Jose game. You got down three Cobb against Washington. They came back on a point. It was huge.

So they know what's at stake here. And you look at the guys they brought in, Jeff. They brought in David Perrault. They brought in Amadio. Drew's been here now for a couple of years. Guys like that, Nick Jensen, those guys know what it's like to be in these kinds of situations. So they didn't really have that before surrounding their young players. It's like those guys are going to step in and just kind of be, you walk into the game and now these players like Kachak, like Batherson, like Norris, so it's a, they haven't been in this situation before, but they're not facing it alone. They've got some experience beside them, guys like that. And don't forget, Almark. Like Almark's a guy that's got some experience.

I expect him to be huge down the stretch here for Ottawa. So it's, like I said, this is fun times here in Ottawa right now. They haven't been in this situation a long time. To me, this all pivots around Almark. And like this, this is a shift. Like I look at this right now, this moment right now for the Ottawa senators in the position that they're in and the opportunity in front of them. One of the knocks on Allmark has always been, even though he's got a

Vezna in his hip pocket, outside of that time in Rochester, in the American hockey league, there hasn't been a big pressure show me do it will a team to victory moment or success story for Linus Ulmark in his career yet wasn't there with Buffalo that ever made the playoffs wasn't really there with Boston as well that was the the the Swainman show come postseason there There have never been, there has never been in his career, that high pressure situation where he said, you know what guys, time to bite down on the mouth guard, because that's

what I'm going to do and we're going to win these games and we're going to, we're going to get there, we're going to get to the playoffs, or we're going to achieve something that hasn't been there yet in all Mark's career. This is a chance for him to rewrite that He just made me think the goalie is actually wearing Northcote's It's a good question, I mean I should know that I don't know me I don't I don't think they do but I don't think

I I don't think they I don't think I don't I don't think that you I don't I'm the wrong guy to ask you about Martha Gar guards because I'm one of those guys that doesn't believe that they prevent concussions, but nonetheless here come the angry, the angry DMS and emails from doctors, but I don't believe that they do. I like the visual you gave me there, and I'm like, ah, it's time to go over it.

It's time to bury it out. But yeah, listen, you're right. You're right. Like it's, it, this is a show me Lee. People are already talking about the Winnipeg Jets and Connor Hellebeck that he's hasn't won anything and it's time for him to show up in the playoffs.

So yeah, for sure. All mark. We'll just look, the Rangers are going to go as far as probably Schistler can take some right. And wouldn't he do last game? Same as last game. What did he do last game?

He just shut down a, he got a shutter. So this is the time of year when you're big game, this is why you get a big game goalie. So for it to be in these positions, to go out, stabilize your team and give, you don't have to be all world either. You just got to give your team a chance to win because that's the thing Auto hasn't had in the

past, Chuck. You look at the teams they've had, the, look at their save percentage last year. I think it was more of the worst in the NHL. We're at the finish, one of the worst teams in the league. So I don't think Omar has got to be a savior. Look at their save percentage last year. I think it was more of the worst in the NHL. We're at the finish, one of the worst teams in the league. So I don't think Omar has got to be a savior.

I just think he has to be good enough to give this team a chance to, because they play differently now, Jeff, like for the best parts of this year, they play with much better structure. They don't give you as much. I know they gave 41 shots to Washington, but Washington is a good team. I think you're going to get back to playing they were when they were rolling off wins, playing tight. This team went into Boston a couple of months ago and didn't allow a shot on goal in the third period to the Boston Bruins. That's pretty tough to do on the road. So I'm foreseeing this team tightening things up.

Yeah. Almark doesn't have to be a savior, but he's got to be good. A hundred percent he's got to be good and we'll see. Like I agree. Has he had the big game moment? No, but maybe it's coming. So let's hold on and see what happens. So Drake Batherson's name has sort of spread itself out there in the, in the, uh, could the

Ottawa senators do something here? Do you bite on that toe drag? That is Drake Batherson getting, do you bite on that one Yorkie? I'm a Drake guy. I like, uh, he's, here's the thing with Batherson right now, he can tell the way he's playing. The confidence is quite not there where it was during the season, cause he had a stretch this year,

Jeff, where you could have made an argument. He was Ottawa's best forward. That's how good he was playing right now. He's had a few couple defensive miscues. It's not putting up numbers, but this is what I like about him. This number one, he got great contract. Like here's, if you want, if you want to get a talented player in this league, you're going to have to normally pay upwards of five, six million

dollars for this. Like, battle with his contracts, I believe in the high fours. So is he ever going to be a driver all the time? I don't know. But I think for the value, he's a really good player. Right now he's struggling. This is a great opportunity again for him to snap out of that slump tonight. But I like the player. I think there's a ton of skill there. I think he's great on the power play. Is he defensively? Absolutely not. But I think he's a really good player when you have Suxtla as your best player and Kichuk and then you surround with really talented guys like Batherson. The thing with Batherson, he's really good

when he's physical. And I think he just needs to get back to that, play physical again, play simple, and his game will round back on the forum. Okay, I don't wanna be accused of soft tampering here, which is a delicious turn that we learned this year, but I do wanna entertain a quick conversation about Brady Kachak.

Now I'll admit, I threw a log on the fire yesterday, we all saw the expressions standing at the line during the U.S. anthem and the booing, et cetera. Okay. So we had a quick conversation about that yesterday here on the show, me and Wyszynski. Um, and then today in the Ottawa Citizen, they published a letter about should Brady Kuchuk be

the captain of this team complete with a picture of Brady and Matthew and the USA and all that. And I'm saying to myself, you're doing it. Keep, you know, like you're, you're, if you want Brady Kachuck out, like you're doing it, like where do you see this conversation? Because coming out of four nations, like the Kachuck brothers turned into captain America, captains America. The Kachuk brothers turned into Captain America, Captain's America.

And between that and the anthem and the Ottawa citizen publishing very high profile, call it newspaper click baits about should Brady Kachuk be the captain of his team, et cetera, et cetera. Like if you wanna roll the red carpet, if you're trying to drive them to the airport, like this is the way you do it.

Like, you know, if you wanna like get them, like drive, like this is the way you do it Like, you know, if you want to like get it like drive of yours, this is the way you do what what do you make? What do you make of this Yorkie? Of the anthems being booed or with Kichuck. No with Kichuck like Like you should does is this going to like is this going to resonate with him at all more? I'm just asking to comment on the entire situation and the entire conversation around Brady Kachak with the Ottawa senators right now. Listen, here's the thing with Brady Kachak. He is loved here in Ottawa. The, the fan base, the fan base loves and everybody knows that he's a great fit

here, he's the captain of the team. He lives about five streets over from here in Ottawa. He's, he's entrenched in the community. There's a lot of great things. So to me, this is a lot of noise on the outside because I'll tell you from playing and being in the room, guys aren't in the room discussing politics and saying, oh my God, they have them got food tonight. Man, I'm really pissed off about that. I just think there's so much people have to understand.

You have to be so razor focused to play this game. It's tougher than ever. It's so fast, so physical. So is he annoyed? Probably. Is he gonna take it out on the fans? I think this is just something that will pass in time, Jeff. But I'll tell you this,

the thing that probably makes people the most upset is losing. Like if you continually lose and don't make the playoffs that's what really bothers players and I'll say this I would be more concerned if Ottawa continued to lose all the time but then again he's the captain he's part of it and they got a nice group here they got a really good group a lot of guys are close this group wants to win together they They want to get it done, but I don't know. I, the whole anthem thing, I don't know.

If it's me, Jeff, I'll tell you, be honest. I, I just, it's, it's, it's, it's unfortunate because it's taking away from the NHL. And, uh, and anyways, I hate getting political, but for Kachuk, winning, being part of it and watching what his brother does, found that important to him. Alright, on that we'll park it.

Off to the grocery store for your homework. And I'll expect something on my desk first thing at 9am tomorrow, York Chop. Thanks pal, you be good. Now you got me thinking, I'm gonna get right on the Google machine and get... Oh, here we go. I'm gonna tweet out a picture of the peanut butter bear. If you right beside my loaf, we're going to have, we're going to have a poll. Yeah, that's my, my loaf.

Peanut butter bears got a better look than me. Trust me. Thanks, pal. He'd be good. Here, Jeff. The one and only Jason York from the coming In Hot podcast, as heard here on the Nation Network. All right, a couple of things here, Zach, really quick.

I want to remind people that FanDuel are our friends and co-presenters here on the program. Proud to connect fans to the major sports moments that matter to them roster updates from daily faceoffs fantasy twitter slash x feed updated around the clock as yorkie just mentioned a couple of seconds ago ottawa senator is facing off against the blackhawks this is the proverbial game they have to have like it's going to be tough for ottawa for all those teams to distinguish themselves in this race but these are the ones you can't lose it It's the captain of the Rangers at MSG. It's the Maple Leafs facing off against the Vegas Golden Knights. Tonight at T-Mobile Arena, Anaheim and Vancouver, no Quinn Hughes for the Vancouver Canucks.

Did something in the game against Seattle. Tweaked something. Kevin Lankton gets a start for Vancouver. Maybe, just maybe, this is the last time we'll see Brock Besser, depending on deadline, in a Vancouver Canucks uniform and the St. Louis Blues face off against the LA Kings at Crypto.com arena. Now, one thing I did want to mention to you, because I'm kind of racking my brain about it here, and this is someone that we should have on the show. So Connor Carrick, who's a defenseman currently playing

in Bakersfield, the American Hockey League. He's one of the more thoughtful hockey players in professional hockey. We gotta get Connor on. So he sent me this tweet today. He said, who does it better hypothetically? Crosby playing with Ovechkin's curve for a whole season He said who does it better hypothetically? Crosby playing with Ovechkin's curve for a whole season or

Ovechkin with Crosby's curve. I had this thought and pulled over while driving to tweet it It's funny that he was so pressing for I texted him I'm like f that's a good one And he sends back. I can't think about anything else We should have him back to answer that question But and it's a complicated one because I don't know if you have both patterns handy that we can okay So Crosby's is pretty much like for you olds out there Dave Keons. It's pretty much a flat one. Thing about Crosby is more so than anybody else in the NHL in his era he plays on his backhand. That's why if you ever hear like oh Crosby's hard to play with well if you know how to play with someone who plays on their backhand a

lot Crosby's probably a really easy guy to play with. And then there's Ovechkin's which he needs for the one-timer like Ovechkin's game is power. C then there's Ovechkin's, which he needs for the one-timer. Like Ovechkin's game is power, Crosby's game is passing creativity, being more sneaky, and he needs that type of blade. And so he DMs me this or tweets me this like right before the show. I'm like, you have to do this now. Like definitely right before I go on there cause that's now all I'm gonna think about. And it's all I've kind of been thinking about since he DMed it to me.

My instinct is that Ovechkin does better with Crosby's blade because you can still one time a puck effectively, not as effectively as with the Ovechkin pattern. Like I don't think you're going to blow pucks by goalies with Crosby's pattern, but I don't know that Crosby can play as effectively on his backhand, which is a huge part of his game with that Ovechkin banana. I think I go the other way.

I think it's Sidney Crosby playing with OVs because as much as the backhand is an important part I think that like this is where this conversation just starts to get ridiculous but I think that the impact of his game is the decrease in efficiency is less so than the decrease of decrease in efficiency is less so than the decrease of inefficiency of Ovechkin's in terms of the overall impacts of their game. So what I mean is that if Ovi goes to Crosby's I think he loses a lot on the control of the one-timer which is a major part of his game and the slap shot the snapshot whatever whereas Crosby the

backhand is important but you can still use it. It just might be a little bit less, but it's just not as much of a factor in his game as the one-timer is to Ovechkin's game. So the deal is, if you get what I'm saying, I think- I know, okay. So here's the argument. Here's the argument. What's more important to their game, the backhand for Crosby or the one time? I'm gonna be for sure in my opinion at least yeah, it's it's the OV one-timer We don't have enough time for this But this would be a great one for the chat, and I want to get when deadlines done

I want to get a carrot on to To formulate his thoughts on this one, too. Let's pick this up as a as a poll tomorrow on the show Okay, okay Well quickly on this like which curve do you use? I'm curious and like which do you prefer? Why I like the p20 which one is yours more similar my like but the one that I use Yeah, personally p28. Yeah you personally p28 okay so p28 p28 with a load with a load with a low kick point yeah okay I think that mine is the same you have the same yeah I believe I think so yeah but everybody uses the p28 now, don't they? Oh no, actually mine is not the P28.

What do you use? I use the Kane curve. Oh yeah, guys like you and Pat Kane are so similar. Yeah, so similar, so similar. You almost can't tell us apart on the ice. Is that Pat Kane or Zach Phillips? I used the Stamcoast for a long time. I used the Stamcoast and then I had just switched

to the Canes like more recently, again, free sticks. But- You know what someone told me? You know what someone told me about those patterns? That Aizerman's pattern was never used actually by Aizerman. And that's the one that Adam Oates is in love with. That's what it says everybody should use. I'm pretty sure a lot of them aren't used by,

I think they're all slightly different than what the actual specs of the players are. I think Lidstrom used by it. I think they're all slightly different than what the actual specs of the players are. You know people who would be able to tell you. I think Lidstrom used his though, Medano used his. No? I only say that because I've looked at pictures of them sometimes where it's not,

it's like a little bit different. But I also think that those guys take the blow torch to them sometimes and mess around with them or whatever. Ben Hopkins P92 common as well. Is that the one that gives you more toe on the ice? The 92? P92? I'm looking, I'm literally looking at these right now. Yes, it does.

What a way. Is that the one that gives you more toe on the ice? Which is the one that gives you more toe on the ice? Okay. So this is says P92 curve is the mid heel, face is open, toe round, length long, P88 is the one I used, mid heel. Well, you and Kane, yeah, you and Kane, similar. Me and Kane, yeah, yeah.

Toe round, length long, I think that one's the one with more toe on the ice. It's like the flatter blade. Which one is it? P-88 I think. P-88? So that's yours. Because the 92 goes up at the end a little bit more just based on what I'm looking at here. So dorsal in the chat, me and my Sherwood 5030 with the coffee curve taught me to play all the old PMPs. That's for the olds. Yeah I love that one. One day we'll just do a show on one. One day we'll just do a show on sticks. One day we'll just do a show on sticks and stick patterns. Ryan to single curve, DingleBop says.

That's a poll right there. Yeah. Brian H. I use the PS5 myself. Jesse Stevens, Ryan Smith's curve. Ryan here, okay, agree, disagree. Ryan Smith had the ugliest stick in the history of the game. In the history of hockey, the ugliest stick ever used by anybody was Ryan Smith's. I need to refresh my memory here. No, because the answer is yes, Jeff. The answer is yes. It is the ugliest thing. Why do you say this? Just have a look at it. It's the ugliest

thing you've ever seen. The blade just looks like it's a flat, fat tongue is the blade you know what it looks like it looks like a picture a depict like a depiction of what a hockey stick would look like yeah that's what I'm saying who doesn't know what a hockey stick looks like Ryan Smith made a career using that stick and he was great on the boards with it it's an incredible on the boards with it that's insane that's the boards with it. That's insane. That's pretty funny. Shot muffins because like look at that who's shooting with that thing but on a board play Ryan Smith was incredible. Just an incredible player. Okay before we go down that wormhole too deeply. Thanks to Pierre McGrath for stopping by. Congratulations to your barber. Cleans you

up a little bit. That's nice. Yeah you did. Or did you do that yourself? I mean, no. Oh no. Where'd you go? My guy Andy. Andy. Downtown Toronto. My guy Andy. All right. Andy Wu cleaned it up. Did me nice. Yeah. All right. Congratulations to your playoffs. He's worried about the Leafs Jeff. Your league? Okay. Yeah. I know. He's concerned. he's ringing his hands, he's all nervous. Never mind like you know tariffs and politics and all he's worried about the Leafs. All of that yeah whatever. That's all I'm concerned. What are the Maple Leafs are gonna do? Like I've got Vic sending me Austin Matthews quotes during the show here. Like that's that's what we're concerned about. Brian H. Ryan Smith equals excellent mullet just like Zach. That's true. Thank you Brian. That's uh that's that's what we're concerned about Brian H Ryan Smith Eagles excellent mullet just like Zack that's true thank you Brian that's that's true

do you have like an inspiration an inspirational mullet knows your boy Patty King and you guys share the same pattern too no you know what I actually used to want to look like as a kid I used to really want my hair to be like O'Callaghan in Miracle on Ice. I used to see that and be like, that's hockey hair and that's what I need. And then the mullet was, I mean, Patty Kane inspired obviously, but I mean, the honest truth about the mullet was back when I was doing like, when I first started doing Leaf shows, I was like, oh, if we get 2,000 subscribers by the playoffs, we'll do it.

And I didn't think it was gonna happen. I just started this account or whatever. People were like, oh, okay, let's see this. And then we hit 2,000 subscribers in like a month. And I was like, oh shit, I have to get a bullet. Yeah. Open your mouth. Open mouth and surf foot.

Way to go, Zach. Way to go, genius. That was Jeff four years ago I think so it stuck. And here we are presenting it daily at three o'clock eastern our daily face on youtube channel. Bravo well done everybody. Good job everybody. Well done. Whoops. This is where it's taking us. Okay. Thanks to Pierre McGuire for stopping by. Thanks to the great Jason York, the York Trap, which we like to call him from the Coming in hot podcast and the craft peanut butter bears which double as my hair Look do like it's bad. Like I've always had awful

I did how I'll show you a picture one day when I was at university at Guelph I did have a mullet for a year there, but like a good one. We're like the hair was like down past my shoulders Okay. Yeah, yeah. The real crown of glory. Yeah, look at that. That's my hair now. Like that is like honestly. It's Kraft peanut butter bear.

That's what it is bud. It's okay. I think it looks good Jeff. I think you look great. You got the job. You don't have to kiss my ass. Like you got the gig man. Like you can insult me now.

It's alright. Like we're past all that. Like dude, look at that chick repellent thing on your head. What is that? Your hair? Is that your real hair? Yes, it is damn it Me and the Kraft peanut butter bear Andy by you shout out from Guelph Jeff right on bud Jeff with the yaga mother. I did have one dingle bop you bet I did Nathaniel we need to see it you You will see it. I gotta find it. I might actually even be smoking a cigarette in the picture too. When you're at university you read a lot. That is leather jacket.

No leather jacket. I think I have like a- you know what? It's so lame too. I was wearing like Adidas shorts and a Sid and Nancy shirt from the movie. Oh dude. I was from the land women forgot at university. Just the worst. Like I didn't even like me. Can't imagine what other people felt. I didn't even want to be around me. Look at me.

It's ridiculous. I need to see this picture so bad. I gotta find it. I need to see this picture. Oh, it's coming. You see Vicks coming somewhere. What's Vicks saying? I'd kill for your hair Jeff. Oh, I know But the thing is like it just pops out like it just grows thick fast, man

But I know like all my friends that are follic Lee challenged J-rock wait, we get a job if we insult you I'm in Jeff is six months from being young Letterman That's good chats hot just roast nice lettuce from Rick. Yeah, it's true, man Yeah, okay. Let's shut it down before my my ego gets crushed here. Enjoy the hockey game tonight Okay, let's shut it down before my ego gets crushed here. Enjoy the hockey game tonight. We're back tomorrow for the sheet. Nine a.m. tomorrow, I'll be on with Johnny Lazarus

on Morning Cup of Hockey. It's fun to co-host your favorite show and that's what I'll be doing tomorrow. Daily Face Off live at noon Eastern and then our act here at three o'clock. Thanks so much for everyone in the chat, everyone watching, everybody listening and everyone paying attention

to everything we're doing here at Daily Face Off. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Our most recent work all culminating on Friday with trade deadline, but plenty more to get to between here and then, or then and now, or now and then. I really need to sleep more. I really, I should stop drinking coffee so late in the day.

Really messes up my sleep sleep and then my performance here. All right. Keep the roasting coming, Andy. Don't worry about that. At least you boys didn't live in the frosted tips era. I did, but I never did it. But you know who did? I think I had it.

Did you have the tips? You know who else did? Oh man. Oh, by the way, J-Rock. Jeff looks like a literature professor from a mid-level university. That's what I was going to school for. Then I ended up taking, I ended up taking a job at the fan of promotions. And then just like worked my way up the ladder and somehow I'm here and all the books that I read and papers I wrote and

all the times that I said, yeah, I'll go back and do my masters and eventually my PhD. I stopped saying that and here I am. You know who had the frosted tips? Elliot Friedman had the tips. No. I think that might have been standard issue at University of Western. Not like us at Guelph though. Nope. No frosted tips there. Okay, peace out. See you everybody. Bye. I went to the dark man, he tried to give me a little medicine I'm like, nah man, that's fine I'm not against those methods, but no It's me, myself and how this gon' be fixing my mind I do wanna break it

I turn down the music I do wanna break it I turn on the music I do wanna break it I turned on the music But there's nothing about it That you sometimes lose it Helping on the days that went wrong Hey hockey fans, Tylee Remczuk here And you're gonna wanna mark your calendars because

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