The Sheet with Jeff Marek - Vegas Takes a 2-1 Series Lead ft. Tyler Yaremchuk + Michael Misa & Dave Gagner Join the Show
Episode Date: June 8, 2026Jeff Marek is live from Upper Canada College in Toronto for a special edition of The Sheet featuring two unique guests from opposite sides of the hockey world. First, Jeff sits down with 2026 NHL Draf...t standout and recent San Jose Sharks first-overall pick Michael Misa to discuss his path to the NHL, draft day emotions, development, expectations heading into his first professional season, and what comes next for one of hockey's brightest young stars. Later, former NHL forward turned player agent Dave Gagner joins the show to talk about his transition from playing to representing athletes with The Team, the changing landscape of player development, navigating the draft process, and more stories from his decades in the game. Jeff also opens the show by breaking down a wild Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Final as the Vegas Golden Knights outlasted the Carolina Hurricanes in double overtime to take a 2-1 series lead in one of the most dramatic games of the postseason. From the Stanley Cup Final to the future of the NHL, it's another packed episode of The Sheet.Subscribe to Daily Faceoff for more NHL news, interviews, analysis, and Stanley Cup Final coverage.#TheSheet #JeffMarek #NHL #StanleyCupFinal #VegasGoldenKnights #CarolinaHurricanes #MichaelMisa #SanJoseSharks #DaveGagner #HockeySHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Fan Duel: https://www.fanduel.com/👍🏼 Canadian Blood Services: https://www.blood.ca/👍🏼 Ninja: https://www.sharkninja.ca/ninja-crispi-pro-6-in-1-countertop-glass-air-fryer-rose-quartz/AS101CRS.html?utm_source=Meta&utm_medium=Paid+Social&utm_campaign=H1NinjaCrispi&utm_content=NinjaEN&dwvar_AS101CRS_color=cdb9b8Reach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!If you liked this, check out:🚨 OTT - Coming in Hot Sens | https://www.youtube.com/c/thewallyandmethotshow🚨 TOR - LeafsNation | https://www.youtube.com/@theleafsnation401🚨 EDM - OilersNation | https://www.youtube.com/@Oilersnationdotcom🚨 VAN - CanucksArmy | https://www.youtube.com/@Canucks_Army🚨 CGY - FlamesNation | https://www.youtube.com/@FNBarnBurner🚨 Daily Faceoff Fantasy & Betting | www.youtube.com/@DFOFantasyandBetting____________________________________________________________________________________________Connect with us on ⬇️Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/daily_faceoff💻 Website: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com🐦 Follow on twitter: https://x.com/DailyFaceoff💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dailyfaceoffDaily Faceoff Merch:https://nationgear.ca/collections/daily-faceoffReach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Okay, I absolutely love stuff like this.
This is the sweet spot of the bat for your boy, Jeffie.
Welcome once again to the sheet for this Monday, June the 8th,
kicking off another week here on the program.
Glad to have you aboard today.
We are at Upper Canada College.
And behind me, a bunch of draft eligibles from the team, formerly Wasserman.
You're Jackson Covers, your Becken Edwards, your Ryan Lins, your Carter Hicks.
Just saw James Richmond from Brampton around here a couple of seconds ago,
all on the ice right now.
camp all this week.
So there'll be a number of NHL teams coming by to see some of the players as well.
And various people from the hockey community aboard here.
So this is a lot of fun.
This group, again, formerly Wasserman, now the team, used to do this up at St. Andrews College in Aurora.
That's Zach Phillips territory there, Philly.
Now they do it down here at UCC.
Where, by the way, Zach, you'll find this one not so interesting, but I'll get it out there anyway.
because every time I come to UCC, I say the same thing.
When your boy, Jeff, was between the ages of 7 and 11.
I used to come here every summer for Tom Watt Hockey Camp,
and I'd be here for two weeks.
It made me the player that I never was,
but I always had the best time here at Upper Canada College.
Great spot.
The team kids are behind us here, and we got a great show.
Do you ever get down here to play?
Downtown Men's League plays here.
This is where I play.
This is where you play.
This is it.
This pad.
This is the home of Zach Phillips for the summer.
Wow.
Now, do you play on the Olympic sheet?
Or do you only play?
In the winter, yes.
In the summer, I think they resurfaced it, actually.
That's too much.
Yeah, it's lacrosse now.
Yeah.
That's too much skating.
Thank God.
All right.
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Coming up on the program, Tyler, your armtruck from Vegas.
That was an absolute banger of a game on Saturday.
We'll get Tyler's thoughts on it and speculate on what we may see tomorrow in game.
Every game's been drama-filled.
Also, Dave Gagne, Agent from the team will stop by.
We'll talk about his clients.
We'll talk about this event.
And we'll talk about an interesting summer on the horizon with,
and this is music to every agent's ears.
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Michael Misa of the San Jose Sharks will be stopping by towards the bottom of the hour.
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for questions for Mesa coming up at the bottom.
And we'll talk a lot about the game on Saturday,
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Who joins me on the broadcast from Lovely Vegas. Great screenshot there.
Yesterday was, first of all, before we get to the game, yesterday's supposed to be go night for everybody there.
Did you and Pat Puff go last night, Tyler, Your Hempchuk? No game until Tuesday.
we didn't go like full pedal to the floor now do i go a pat puff in a conga line with a handful of senior citizens
maybe maybe i will neither confirm or deny that but we had a good time last night in
Vegas had a little NHL event that was great so yeah it's been good that's awesome um rewind to saturday
one of the best Stanley cup final games i think anybody has ever seen just by by the sheer drama
of all of it there was a sort of feeling out process in the first period
The big story coming away from that first was no Vegas forwards got a shot on net.
Vegas only had two shots on net, both from defenders.
And then it turned into the Marner Show, and then it turned into the comeback.
And by the way, in the second, there were two disallowed goals on video review.
There was Carolina tying it up, and then there was an overtime that saw no goals scored.
And then a double O.T. winner by Shea Theodore in a, and I want to frame it as Nick Liddstrom-esque kind of goal,
bouncing it off the back plate behind the goaltender to have it going on Bussy.
Oh, and we saw a goalie pull in this one.
Like outside of a streaker, Tyler, I don't know what more you want from a game.
I like that you saved the goalie pull one for last.
Like you almost forgot considering, you know, there's a tie in there with Mitch
Marner forgetting that they switched the goalies before his penalty shot too.
Yeah.
But any time, and this was the line I said after the game, like any time you can sit down
after a hockey game and say, well, which one of the four Stanley Cup final records was your favorite?
That game had four of them. I think Cole Smith set the record for 14 hits.
That's probably no disrespect to Cole Smith, the most insignificant of the bunch.
But like fastest natural hat trick, fastest three goals by a team.
First time in Cup final history, a team has erased a four-gold deficit in a game.
It was mayhem.
And after the game, I mean, just talking to the Golden Knights, too.
That was one where if they don't win that, man, I really question if they would have been able to bounce back from blowing another game like that.
Were you wondering about concussion spotters when Anderson got hit by Barbashev there?
Now, the way that the protocol looks, because I got a lot of texts about this one,
you probably had these similar issues and probably got texts about it as well.
The way that it works is concussion spotters in the arena,
when they believe that there may be an issue,
call into the office of the Department of Player Safety in New York.
There are people, there are experts there that look for things like,
you know, does the player grab his head?
Does the player look out of sorts?
as a player like wobbly on his on his on his on his skates at which point if they determine yes
then it is new york who actually makes the call not the concussion spotter in the arena and they
call the trainer at the ring but did you wonder about freddie getting pulled out i mean his
heads all the way to one side he falls down he loses his stick he grabs his his head did you wonder like
are there any concussion spotters here or are they sort of the the new version of the the goal
judges behind the nets yeah
I wasn't really thinking about it in the moment,
but then I got a text from actually a former NHL goaltender,
a former colleague of ours who texted me and said,
I think Freddie's concussed through a couple more goals had gone in.
So that's when I kind of started to really think.
And what I also found interesting is that Freddie Anderson never came back to the Canes bench.
He wasn't sitting in the usual backup spot.
And I mean, listen, that's not abnormal if you pull a guy in the third period
and maybe for the first 10 minutes of the period.
But like overtime, double overtime.
He never came back and sat on that.
Carolina Hurricanes bench, which really has me thinking right now,
Rod Brindamore, like there might be a health side to this.
I think there's also a, do you want to just go to Brandon Bussie after how well he played?
But the health factor in this decision, I feel like it's not being talked about enough.
Yeah, I think that, you know, what we saw from Bussie, by the way, was it nine for nine
when he came in, surrendered the one weird one to the zero in the double over time.
I think it's his net anyway.
Like you look at how Anderson has played in this final injury or not.
yesterday Rod Brindamore did not say who was going to start.
And my thinking on it is, if it's going to be Freddie Anderson,
he's going to say Freddie Anderson right away.
To me it feels very much like this might be Bussies to ride the rest of the series.
Is it feel that way to you?
It does.
And that was my gut feel after the game too.
It's just, man, Bussie played so good.
Again, the penalty shot save on Marner.
There were a couple of really, really good chaotic chances in front of him
in that overtime and he kept the puck out and the winner like i'm not really going to fault him
on the winner either like that's just a crazy unpredictable sort of bounce and double overtime so
i would be going to brandon bussey i think a part of this is like he played more games than
freddie anderson this year like he went yep on some long stretches where he was really really
good now he went on some long stretches where he wasn't but right now like i don't think you
really need to worry about that it's who gives you the best chance to win game four and i think
Based on what we saw in game three, it's Brandon Busty.
Let me get to the Vegas side of things here in the five or six minutes we have left with you.
I don't like to do the my sports better than your sport and my sport my sport is tougher than your sport.
But I got to be honest with you, seeing Braden McNabb on the line on Saturday night with the zips all over his nose and into his face
and probably into his nose as well with the bird cage and all that.
Like, was there a part of you as well?
was for me that went, man, I'm really glad I'm a hockey fan.
Like, at this moment, I'm, like, really proud that I'm a hockey fan,
seeing that guy who in game two took an 87 mile an hour one-timer from Nick Eilers,
who put everything into that shot and then come back for game three and start.
Like, honestly, Tyler, was that not a part of you that went like,
I'm really proud to be a hockey fan right now?
Yeah, absolutely.
And we do kind of have this sort of, like, sick obsession with this kind of stuff,
Like, you think back to, well, Patry, people, hockey fans love me.
Like, you know, Patrice Bergeron played with a punctured lung.
And it's like, yeah, we remember that more than any goal or play that Patrice Bergeron made in that Stanley Cup final.
We talk about the fact he played through a punctured lung.
Like, we love, you know, I was in the room after the game.
Like, I could borderline not even look at Braden McDonough when we were in his scrum.
Like the stitches were the way they zaked and zagged, like around and underneath his nose.
It was gruesome.
And he was asked, you know, was there a point where you thought you weren't?
weren't going to be able to play.
And he kind of looked and was like,
yeah,
when I was laying in a hospital bed,
I thought there was a chance
that I wouldn't be able to play.
But just to even speak to like the focus of these guys,
Braden McNabb doesn't even know how many stitches he got.
We asked him that.
We're like, how many is?
And he goes, I don't know,
somewhere in the 20 to 30 range.
It was like, yeah, okay,
so he gets zipped up and he goes,
what's that talk?
I'm good to go.
Okay, see ya.
I got a game to play in a day.
I got a game to play in a day and a half or whatever.
Yeah.
Take two Advils,
put a bird cage on and get back in there for game three.
And then he played like 33 minutes.
Like what was it if they were like dipping his toe?
Like he went off like the 15 meter diving tower, like right into the game full shifts.
Like 33 or 35 minutes for McNabb as well.
That was outstanding.
Now we've seen players feeling it before.
And I feel really bad for Sean Walker on that one goal.
Like hockey, man, it just kind of happens.
And Mariner gets credit for it.
But once the last time you saw someone feel in it,
like Marner did on Saturday.
I mean, when he walked in down the wing and I was sitting there and like having the thought
at the moment of like he's just going to wire this past Anderson and then stick goes up
and he wires it past Anderson.
And it was like, yeah, it felt like predictable because if he just had this feeling of a guy
who miss and the confidence and the swagger.
So I mean, Mitch Marner, it's been Mitch Manner in this series.
And, you know, when you consider the fact he's got eight more points than his next closest
his teammate. He's got 11 more points than any player on the Carolina Hurricanes. And now you factor
in that the Khan Smythe winner, or sorry, the Kahn Smyth favorite on Carolina side. It was Freddie
Anderson going into game three. It's not Freddie Anderson anymore. Like there's not a clear
cut pick for the Kahn Smyth on that side. Marner is so clearly the guy in Vegas. Could we potentially,
like, let's say Carolina comes back and wins a series in seven. Is it Marner's consmite no matter what already?
It's funny too. We're talking about that on DFO Rundown last night, me and Griggs and is like,
I don't think so, but man, like whether it's, you know, we saw it with, normally when that happens, it's a goalie, right?
It's a goalie that gets to think of like, you think of like, Jaeger, right?
Like, okay, like losing cause, but man, he was like just so much better.
Like sometimes goalies will win that, but it's rare for players, McDavid, Reggie Leach, back in 76 as well for the flowers against the Montreal Canadiens.
but honestly, Tyler, I think you can make a great case.
You know, going into this series, it seemed like it was either Anderson's or Taylor Halls to lose
if Carolina won this thing.
Maybe I'm not so sure about that anymore.
Maybe with that performance, it really does tip it to Mitch.
I'll throw one name from a Carolina perspective who could get it if this series breaks.
What about Jordan Stahl?
Three straight games with a goal.
His defensive presence isn't lost on anybody.
like he's playing some really, really good hockey right now.
And when you look at how, you know, Aho started to wake up a little bit,
I felt in game three made a beautiful pass to Taylor Hall on that goal.
Aho's waking up, but the big storyline is still that Ajo and Svetchenkov have been poor in this cup final.
You couple that with how important that Jordan Stahl line has been and how productive he's been
with goals at big times, too.
It was a late one in game two as well in the one that went to overtime.
So, yeah, I just said there.
I go, Jordan Stahl is maybe the only one who I think could take it away from Martin at this point, even if Carolina wins.
I probably should have asked you off the beginning as opposed to the conclusion of the conversation.
Set the scene for us in Vegas for hockey.
I mean, this is, you know, going back even to season one, this became a hockey market really fast.
Now, the PWHL has also expanded into Vegas further cementing the reputation of puck.
But set the scene for us, Vegas and hockey Stanley Cup final.
Do you see it, feel it, sense it everywhere?
You do.
And listen, there's all the classic Vegas stuff.
Like you walk through the casino and half the dealers are wearing Golden Knights jerseys on game days.
And they do that Vegas side of it really well.
But there is like a deep-rooted, I'll even say like traditional hockey fan base forming here.
Like, you know, there was when the Golden Knights became a thing nine years ago now.
I think there was some idea of, you know, hockey people were probably nervous.
Like, okay, what happens when the NFL comes to town?
You know, the NBA is eventually going to come here.
The Oakland Days or the athletics, whatever we're calling them now,
like they're coming to town too.
And when you talk to locals, man, they don't really care all that much that the Raiders are here.
Like the Golden Knights are their first love.
And it's the success, I think a part of it, you know, it's coupled with the way they bonded with that tragedy, right?
That shooting that happened just days before their first game.
Like, that did something here to this market.
And it showed that the ownership and this organization really cares about the community.
So I think there's a lot that's gone into it,
but I'm willing to say, like, this is not a market where, you know,
the NBA, a new shiny toy is going to come to town in a few years,
and they're all of a sudden going to start paying attention to that more.
Like, Vegas legitimately loves their golden nights.
And I know I'm being wrong with this, but I'll say one more thing on it.
During that game, like there are some fan bases around the NHL,
you know, some of the non-traditional fan bases who, you know,
the crowd's just kind of a crowd.
They cheer all the time, all that.
This crowd behind me, when they blew that 4-0 lead and the game was in overtime,
they were no longer just like making noise because the JumboTron says to make noise.
Like there was a nervousness there.
Like you could tell everyone in that arena wasn't just like,
oh, there's a Stanley Cup game in town tonight.
I'm going to go watch the Golden Knights.
Like, no, no.
They care deeply about this team and you could feel it with just how the nerves that were in the air
as that game went to overtime.
I still maintain, and we see this all the time.
And I'm glad you brought up, you know, football and baseball,
big game tonight against the Brewers.
This is a team that was born.
there.
Right?
Like,
this is an expansion team.
This isn't a team
that moved to Vegas.
This is a team
that was born there.
This is theirs.
And I know it might be a subtle
difference,
but we'll end on this one.
It does really feel profound.
Like, this is really Vegas's team.
They were born there.
They grew up there in front of every,
now they grew up fast.
But they grew up,
like this team grew up in front of all these fans.
Yeah.
And I think that's why there's such like
a unique kind of, again,
bond between this city.
and the organization.
It's not the Raiders with the old Oakland Raiders logo,
just getting plopped into a billion dollar arena on the side of the highway.
And like, oh, look, the NFL is in Vegas now.
Like, what a great idea.
Like, this is something where they really, and it's true.
Like the team was created here.
It's why they use that hashtag and a lot of their branding, right?
Hashtag Vegas born.
Like, they fully lean into that as their identity.
They should.
They should.
And by the way, I would love to sit next to George McPhee,
watching a hockey game.
I'm not sure if you saw any of the visuals of George.
And Kelly and Foley, and George is just like living and dying on every single play.
It's like he's still playing in the NHL himself.
Listen, enjoy the day.
Are you going to the ball game tonight?
I am going to the ball game.
So the MLB is doing like, I think they're kind of like warm up series, getting this place ready for when the A's eventually moved to town.
But it's at their AAA ballpark that's like 20 minutes away.
But Major League Baseball and down tonight, which is a good good night for me.
I'm a big ball fan.
Nice bonus.
You enjoy you.
Thanks so much for popping by.
See you, Jeff.
There is Tyler Yeremtruck from DFO Live, stopping by the show.
Two to one.
Vegas grabs a series lead.
No one thinks for one second that the Carolina Hurricanes are out of this.
As a matter of fact, I think most people, if you're watching that game on Saturday,
thought we'd be sitting here talking about the Carolina Hurricanes with a two-to-one series lead,
but I digress.
This Stanley Cup final, for all of you who thought it would be boring, guess again,
this Cup final has been awesome between these two teams.
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that if you're watching or listening to a show like this, you are watching,
they're listening to these Stanley Cup final.
But if you're not, man, do yourself a favor.
You've got to check this one out.
It has been fantastic.
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As we mentioned, we are at the Upper Canada
College for the team
camp right now, draft eligible
still on the ice right now.
Dave Ganya, a long-time agent here with the team
joins me. Now, how are you, Gags? Good to see you again.
Let's get your mic hot so we can hear your lovely voice.
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First of all, just having a look at some of the kids here.
And like every year, I always say the same thing.
Where do the bad skaters go?
Like the talent level that we've seen is like none other.
How often do you let yourself look at this and wonder what you were like at 17?
Well, I mean, all the players are better nowadays for sure.
I mean, they're physically advanced.
But you know as well as I do too, though.
The work is just beginning for all these young guys.
Sure.
If you saw me at 17 and then saw me at 23, you wouldn't even recognize me at 23.
So I think they know that, and we try to let them know that while they're doing very well up to this point, the work's just beginning.
and they've got a lot of more development going forward here.
But, you know, stay positive with it and enjoy it.
So, you know, the process was always fun, I thought.
It's got to be so hard.
Like, we always say the same thing.
Oh, enjoy it, enjoy yourself.
It's a wonderful experience.
You're going to look.
How can you not be nervous?
You know, like I was just in Buffalo, and I saw I'm booing over there.
I have a nice chat after some of the interviews.
And I'm thinking to myself, how can these kids,
how are these kids so comfortable in this environment?
And so many teams that I talk to keep saying kids now are more comfortable talking to rooms full of adults.
And I keep coming back to the same thing, Dave.
These phones.
And they live their lives publicly.
There's no expectation of privacy.
They carry a communication tool with them.
Yeah, they're used to it.
Like, I don't know how you were at 17, but talking to like NHL managers,
but these guys seem really cool with it and seem like really at ease with it.
Do you think there's something that the cell phone idea?
I think they're very comfortable, but they're trained to do that now.
I think that they have more opportunity to interact with people.
I tell this story that Buffalo Savage had three picks in the first 11.
The year I got drafted, and I got to meet.
You didn't get drafted by the Sabres, though, guys.
I got to meet Scotty Bowman the night before the draft.
Apparently, I didn't impress them at all because I went 12.
He had three chances at you, Dave.
Yeah.
No, I think, you know, it's impressive now.
I recall, you know, sitting in on a lot of those Combine interviews when I worked for Vancouver back years ago.
And I was impressed with all the guys.
It was rare to see a poor interview, to be honest.
I mean, I think 95% of the interviews, they're very polished and, you know, they're very confident in what they want to accomplish.
They know who they are.
Can we go back there for a second?
Pre-agency for you, when you're working with the Vancouver Canucks,
that was a really cutting-edge one office.
So Mike Gillis was a general manager,
and you guys did a lot of things differently
that I think a lot of people around the NHHR kind of looked at
and some scoffed at, and now everyone's doing it.
Like when you look back, whether it's like sleep studies
and when to fly and how to, like all those things.
I remember what had happened,
and Elliott did a big piece on a hockey night,
and getting texts from people like,
who are the Vancouver Canucks think the,
now everybody does it?
Like, how are we like, how cutting edge you guys?
It just made a lot of sense to us at the time
to make sure that the players
had everything at their disposal to be the best they could be.
I mean, it was kind of like a no-brainer for us at the time.
It's just implementing it and making sure
it doesn't interfere with what the coaches want to accomplish and stuff.
But, I mean, we talked about this a bit.
Like, we used to look up, you know, really odd stats.
Like, you know, face-offs are so,
important everybody thinks but oh this is great okay you do the face-off thing we actually we actually
discovered through the stats that um if you pull your goalie and you have a sixth attacker and the it's
almost better to lose the it was better to lose the draw yeah your probability of scoring within
the next 15 seconds it was better to lose the draw because then their d would have it and we'd jump
them create a turnover down low in the end and inevitably scoring chance was greater if we if we if we won the
they were so defensively set up that they would block everything.
It was hard to get to the Nat.
So that's an interesting thing.
But we tried to think outside the box back then.
I would love to hear that conversation between Gillis and would Elaine Vino have been the coach at that point saying on the, on the, on the, on the, the, uh, the man advantage late in the game, late in the game, to lose the draw.
Go tell your center late in the game to lose the draw.
Well, you had to lose it to the right area, too, because we jumped at.
area but yeah no it was interesting we tried to think a little differently than other teams but yeah it was
fun it's all part of the process um so we're here for the uh development camp so a number of nchel
scouts and the various agents will be popping by um you know i i really do wonder about i got the
in the the the nchel right now like when you look at how much the salary cap is going up like i i
look at and if i'm dave gagne agent with the team i'm seeing like dollar signs like everybody else is
Like, what do you think this summer is going to be like with all of this new, essentially new money to spend?
Well, I mean, there's probably three and a half times more to spend than has ever been available.
So it's unprecedented, really.
So I think nobody can say exactly, but I think there's going to be more movement of players.
So trade.
So trade.
Trade you.
Yeah.
Obviously, I think that there's going to be more.
Obviously, I think that there's, you know, we're hoping as agents that the prices are going to skyrocket.
But I think it'll be controlled a little bit.
But, you know, obviously we're trying to be patient at this moment to see how the market's going to shake out within the next six to eight weeks.
It's going to be, it's an exciting time for players right now, I think.
And hopefully we can do our job and maximize the benefits the players are receiving.
Yeah, what's the, like the nature of the job, I can recall.
when I started and when you played, the agent had one role and agents now have so many different
roles. Like how, even just since you've been in, how is, how has agency changed? Well, it's similar
to what we were talking about with Vancouver. We try to, we try to do that as agents and
provide players with all the tools that they can utilize to be the best player they can be.
You know, it's not just advising and contract negotiations.
It's helping them with every facet of their development.
So it's an interesting time to be involved in hockey.
And it's going to continue to get better as we learn about what works and what doesn't.
But again, you go back to, you know, these guys that are, you know, here with us this week, you know,
it's going to take three to five years for them to really start to,
have confidence in the next level for most of them.
But we're here to help them with all those decisions that they have to make.
So I know that, and because I've done this with your group before,
like there is education with finance, there's education with media,
there's education with nutrition and working out.
How much now, because this starts a lot sooner for kids,
how much of kids come to these camps now as clients and not that they know everything,
but they have an easier base with it than they ever have before.
Is that accurate or do they still have their eyes open wide?
I think when it comes to things like obviously that they haven't really been used to,
like when you talk about finance and things like that,
they are wide-eyed at some of the things that are said to them about taxes.
Taxes?
You know, and...
You tell them not to buy a car with the first check?
Yeah, we try to, but inevitably they do.
It's the first thing they need, though.
They need wheels to get around.
But, I mean, you don't have to go crazy with it.
But it is a great education, I think, for all these young guys.
And hopefully they learn something through these three days.
It's not, you can't really, they won't be able to absorb it all at once.
It takes time to become knowledge for these guys.
But it's an opportunity for us to bond with them and get to know them really well, too.
So the coaches on the ice are, you know, working with them to, you know,
and you can see the kids with the work ethic and the skills.
Sure.
So it's obviously fun to watch.
A couple of your clients to pay attention to the summer.
Connor McMichael, Jamie Drysdale as well.
If you feel like making news, go for it.
Anything new there, Dave?
No, I mean, I've already alluded to the fact that there's more money in the market,
so obviously we're looking for more, but all the agents are.
And teams have to do what they think is right for themselves as well.
So, you know, it's give and take.
But it's an exciting time, like I said, for players.
I think it's an opportunity for guys to maybe catch up a little bit to the other sports out there.
I think of the Washington Capitals and Chris Patrick there now.
And Brian McCollan, previous,
describe the dynamic of negotiating contracts.
I'm going to used to be a teammate.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it is interesting for sure.
It doesn't make it easier.
I know that.
Sometimes I think it makes it more difficult
because they know who you are
and where you're coming from
and maybe what your strategy is going to be.
But there'll be a time and a place
where we come to a meeting of the minds,
I think.
Both players are good young players
for those organizations that you mentioned.
And, you know, both Jamie,
and Connor have good good futures.
So we're just trying to make sure they're compensated fairly, I guess.
It's the best way to put it.
But Brian's a good guy.
And I'm dealing more with Chris Patrick on this one.
But they're good people.
They're trying to do the best job they can for their organization.
We'll see where it goes.
A couple of things before I let you go.
Thoughts on Evan Bouchard, who continues to distinguish himself as one of the premier
defenseman in the NHL, full stop.
Tough World Championships at the end.
When you see that, do you see what happened?
Do you call right away?
Do you let him reach out?
What happens when someone gets hurt at the World Championships?
Yeah, we called right away to the management staff first
just to see what information they could give us.
And we found out pretty quickly that he was going to be okay.
Initially, it's scary, obviously, for everybody that knows Evan was watching.
but, you know, Evan did call me about an hour after the game.
He seemed fine, obviously very angry at what happened.
Sure.
You know, I think he was outstanding in that tournament.
I mean, obviously, there's always question marks,
and everybody talks about it quite a bit,
how polarizing a player Evan can be, but I've always...
I don't think so.
Since he was 14 years old, I've always known what he could do,
or I thought I did anyway.
I've always been a big fan of a way he plays the game with such impressive puck movement.
And I was a forward.
I'd love to be on the ice with a guy like Evan because I know he's going to give me the puck
at the appropriate time.
But, I mean, he was plus 14 and then seven games in that tournament.
He can defend.
He can kill penalties.
And obviously, we know what he can do on the power play.
But, yeah, it was great to see him prove himself in that environment.
And hopefully hockey Canada going forward.
forward. It's going to, you know, take stock of that and make very good decisions going
forward. Lobbying for your client for future Olympic teams here. I see nothing wrong with that.
Listen, thanks. What are we going to see the rest of the week here? A couple more days here at Upper
Canada College. Where, by the way, I used to go to Tom Watt hockey school.
Oh, did you really? Yeah, Tom Watt. Yeah, yeah. How did that work out for you?
Well, I'm here now on this side of it looking at 17-year-old kids going to the NHL.
No, it's going to be more of the same. You know, we try to,
build a camp in a way that they don't have to learn it all in three hours, obviously,
but yeah, more seminars and things of that nature and some fun too.
So, yeah.
I've got Michael Misa coming up in a couple of seconds.
You have a couple of thoughts on that young man?
You know, well, Ken Hornick saw him playing at 10 years old and thought it was a no-brainer.
Don't worry, I got the text.
I got the text.
No, he's just a, he's a wonderful kid too.
Like, you know, really nice young man.
and he's going to do big things moving forward here.
I think he's really proved himself, I think, at the end of the year,
but he's very motivated to get off to a good start next year.
Yeah, absolutely.
Dave, thanks so much for this.
Thanks for hosting us here.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Dave Gagne, from the team, the draft eligible is behind me right now,
as you stand by for Michael Mises.
So your Ryan Lins will be aboard, your Carter Hicks will be aboard piece.
Pearson Bui, man.
Someone's getting a player in Pearson Buey to say nothing about someone getting a
player in Jackson Cover.
Becca Medwards of the Sarnia's thing.
Brooks Raghowski of the Ashwaan generals.
This is some real high-quality talent here on display at Upper Canada College for the next
few days here at the team development camp.
Any word on Mesa?
We're going to get Michael Mesa here coming up.
Yeah, can you grab them?
Okay.
So we'll stand by there.
In the meantime, a couple of things.
Some sad notes that pass along.
I just wanted to make sure that I got a couple of words in on the program today with
the passing of Cliff Letcher and Jerry Meen.
Cliff Letcher was a fascinating guy and a really nice man,
and everybody's saying the same thing about him
in that he was a classy individual who treated people the right way,
pulled off one of the biggest trades in the history of the NHL
and the Toronto Calgary deal that brought Doug Gilmore to Toronto,
which changed the franchise.
Cliff was always someone that saw the value of conversation as opposed to confrontation,
I worked for a number of years with Bill Waters
during the Lee Flunt Show on AM 640 in Toronto.
So I heard a lot of Fletcher stories.
And the way that Cliff worked was
when someone wrote something negative about one of his players
or a bunch of his players with a team in general,
where some general managers would like pick up the phone
and yell at the reporter or yell and scream
or have the PR director do something,
Cliff would take the guy out to lunch
and they would chat about it.
That was the guy that Cliff
Fletcher was. More on him coming up in a couple of seconds and a couple of notes about Jerry
Meen as well because the start of the show, Michael Misa has stopped by. Michael, how are you?
Good to see you. Good to see you too. I saw your parents at the game in Buffalo a couple of months ago,
and you had a real nice game there too. First of all, thanks so much for stopping by here today.
Do you remember being a U-17 out here, St. Andrews College?
Yeah, a couple years ago. Yeah, I was here. It was fun.
So how much older do you, even though you're not, how much older do you feel than these kids right now?
I mean, not that much earlier.
They're coming to the NHL soon, so.
But, yeah, I remember being here a couple years ago,
and yeah, the team always puts on a good camp, so, yeah.
I got a couple of questions from social media for you, too, here.
But how did you feel about your first season?
Like, first year pro is always, can be a difficult one, learning experience.
Your team was must watch television.
Like, I've watched more Sharks games.
this year than I have in a number of years.
We'll get to Celebrini here in a couple of seconds.
But what was your experience like?
What were some of the big learning moments for you?
Yeah, I mean, I thought I had a good first year.
You know, I think learning moments, maybe I think guys are just a lot stronger,
like on the puck and stuff.
So, yeah.
But other than that, I thought it was a, you know, a smooth transition for myself.
And, you know, we got a good young team there.
And I think, you know, down the line we're going to do something special.
It's got to be pretty interesting, too.
Like, you step into a team, like, first of all, you get selected second overall,
so you're going to a team that's probably not high on its winning cycle,
and then right away the San Jose Sharks take the NHL by storm,
and everybody is paying attention.
Like, as you go through it, did you sort of get the sense that, like,
all of a sudden, everyone's paying attention to this,
and everybody's watching us, and we're right in there in the playoff mix.
Like, that must have been,
a sort of unique feeling based on where the San Jose sharks were
and how they were in a position to grab you second overall.
Yeah, no, I think it was overall a pretty good year for us.
And, you know, I think the community really came together in San Jose.
And it's, yeah, I think it's something down the line.
We got, you know, a good chance of, you know, I think making the playoffs next year
and, you know, pushing our group further.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I'm excited for it.
What's it like playing with Mac Cellebrini?
Yeah, I've been asked this a lot.
It's great.
We're lucky to have him.
He's one of the best players in the league already.
So just have a guy like that you can learn from, pushes you,
and have him as a teammate.
It's great for us.
Great year, NHL, World Juniors as well.
Just a general thought at competing internationally for your country.
For myself?
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's a huge honor.
obviously I think to get the chance to any anytime you get the chance to represent your country.
And yeah, so I take pride in wearing the leaf anytime I can.
Here's an interesting one from M Online.
Are there any habits you had to unlearn?
Like you tore up junior hockey.
You were a phenom and then the NHL is a totally different beast.
Was there anything that you were like, okay, you know what?
This worked in Saginaught.
It ain't going to work here.
Yeah, I mean, I think just the time with the puck you have, it's less,
and guys are kind of always on you.
But, you know, I thought I did great out there every time, you know,
I was on the ice making plays.
And, you know, I know next year is an even a bigger year for me.
So I just got to, you know, really dial it in this summer and be ready for next year.
From Will, your favorite team growing up.
What's that?
From Will online, your favorite team growing up.
Well, I was a leash fan, obviously, being from Toronto.
Yeah, not anymore, but
I was going to say.
Favorite Leaf growing up?
Marner. Yeah, he's been my favorite
player for a while. I just, yeah, I like the way he plays.
Yeah. I see
myself and him a little bit
with the way he plays. You're watching the
final? Of course, yeah. What did you think
a Saturday? Yeah, I mean,
it's crazy how I think
even the teams are. You
like Vegas being up for nothing
and then how quick the game could change with Carolina
coming back like that. So it's a
Yeah, a very good series between two good teams.
What about Marner's second period?
Like, when he came down the right side and just, like, ripped it,
like, I'm old enough to remember guys used to do that.
Like, you don't do that in the NHL.
Come down the side.
Just blast Pucks.
I'm like, that's the indication that you're feeling it and everything's going in.
When I saw that one, I'm like, this guy can do whatever he wants tonight.
Yeah, that was incredible.
I don't know how quick the goals were in again.
It was like...
Oh, it said to NHL record.
It was like a minute, right, or something?
It was.
I got it written down here somewhere.
Three and 39.
No, wait a minute.
No, no, that's Carolina.
That was another record that was set.
Yeah.
It was, I got us here somewhere.
Yeah, but it was the fastest hat trick in Stanley Cup final history
beating some guy of the name of Rock of Richard.
Yeah, it's impressive what he's doing out there.
He's really locking himself in for that Colin Smyth and his team to, you know, to win.
And he's a big part of that.
You know, I'll tell you, there are, like, you're a fan.
Like, you're a hockey fan.
Like, there are some guys that at the end of the season, they don't watch.
Like, they tune it out, their season's done.
The summer begins.
But you still watch even after your season is done.
Yeah.
No, I've always been into hockey, obviously.
And, you know, I think now that I'm in the NHL, I think watching other teams,
watching players, learning stuff is the best thing to do.
You can always ways to improve and things to learn.
So, yeah, I enjoy watching it.
Are you following the draft at all?
your team is selecting second overall.
Yeah.
You have any advice for your GM?
Yeah, I mean, obviously, they know what they're doing there
and going to let them do their job,
and we're going to get an incredible player, whoever it is.
So, yeah, I'm excited.
Thought on Sam Dickinson.
Oh, he's great.
You know, I get to know him a lot better this year
from playing with him, obviously,
and spending a lot of time with him off the ice.
And, you know, I think he's due to, you know,
do for a huge year next year too. He's going to
break out and I think you saw
from the both of us taking strides by the end
of the year. I think it's, yeah, it's going to be
good for both of us.
From Ellie, what advice would
you give, you were just a rookie though, what
advice would you give a rookie in their first year
of the NHL?
Yeah, I mean, it kind of
flies by your rookie year a bit so I think
the biggest part is to enjoy it. Obviously
you've got to be dedicated,
work hard and I
think the biggest thing for me was
honestly just watching and observing and learning rather than you know always talking um it was yeah i thought
that was pretty big for me so yeah that'd be my advice what's living in san jose like it's great um you know
good good weather and stuff and um yeah it's always hot there which is nice and um you know you're not
really getting bombarded all the time by by fans and stuff you can kind of you know live a
more of a normal life i i think and it's funny you mention that yeah there's a funny you mention that yeah there's a
story when Joe Thornton got traded from the Boston Bruins mid-season, from the Boston
Bruins, big media hockey, big media team to the San Jose sharks. After his first practice,
he was in the room and he was like, so where is the media? And someone said, he's over there.
It was just one, Dave Pollock from like the Mercury. And Joe was like, there's one guy.
Yeah, no, yeah. There's one guy? Yeah, it's a lot smaller there. I mean, which, yeah, I think it's just,
It's nice to sometimes be able to, you know, get away from hockey and kind of live a normal life there.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of the older guys will talk about things like, and maybe you feel the same way.
When you play in a sunny environment, Florida, California, Dallas, you wake up in the morning and your body just feels better, right?
As opposed to, you know, I'm playing in a Canadian market or a northeastern U.S. market and it's cold.
I get my coat on all the time and boots and all that.
Yeah.
You wake up in San Jose and you hear birds and you see the sun and your body just, like, do you notice that?
Like your body just feels better?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's nice to definitely, yeah, wake up in the morning, go outside, get some fresh air with the sun.
It's always pretty nice weather.
So, yeah.
Yeah, definitely I can see it helping.
Shorts and flops to the rink.
Which are the time, yeah.
Yeah. Even in like February, though, in January, it's still pretty warm.
So, yeah.
It really is attractive.
Before I let you go, what's your off-season looking?
like. What do you do? Yeah, so I'm staying Oakville for a majority of it. And then in July for
almost two weeks, I'm going to Vancouver with Lardis, my brother and Dickie. We're all going
to train with Mack for a bit down there in Vancouver, which is going to be good. And then I'll
probably end up in Muscoa a little bit in August, so kind of all over the place, but it should be
good summer. What's training with Macklin going to be like? Well, it's going to be hard, but a lot of fun.
You know, getting to see him again
and, yeah, spending some time with him.
There's a great story someone told me about skating in the summer
with Sidney Crosby and rented a sheet
and they're using half ice.
There's only a couple of them.
And halfway through, the ice is pretty chewed.
And he said to Crosby,
why don't we go down there for the second half?
And Crosby's like, no, we're staying here because it's harder.
That we never get a chance.
Like, when do you get a chance to practice on ice that is this chewed up?
And he was like, I was really embarrassed.
to even ask Crosby
for you go play on the clean sheet.
Does that one resonate with you?
Yeah, it's,
I mean, I usually like the clean sheet,
but I can definitely see what he's saying there.
And, yeah, maybe I'll try and test that out.
Well, it makes sense.
What I'm trying to sort of get to is, like,
you see a lot of Crosby and celebrate, right?
Like, you see, like, that kind of, like,
leadership, work ethic, all that kind of stuff.
I'm wondering if, like, you sort of have the same mentality
or that same kind of focus, like,
we're going to do this because it's harder and it's going to make us better players.
Yeah, no, I'm pretty, you know, big with my summer train.
I take it, you know, very seriously.
And, yeah, you know, I think I'm big on the ice, big in the gym, big on my food.
What I put it into my body, you know, how I'm recovering.
It's all part of it.
You have to have a plan and an idea of what goals you want to accomplish and stuff like that.
And it's all, it all kind of ties back, you know, together.
So, yeah.
Final thought on some of the kids here.
Every couple of years, it seems like the NHL is rejuvenating itself with new stars.
You're a part of the wave right now.
Somewhere down the line, there's going to be like another wave.
What's it like, because I mentioned Martin a second ago.
Like, honestly, what's it like playing on a sheet with guys that you grew up idolizing?
Yeah, it was obviously, yeah, it's the dream.
That was the dream to get to the NHL.
And, yeah, I think when you're on the ice,
so you can't really look at it that way.
You just got to look at them as more opponents.
And, you know, you're in the same league as them.
You've got to compete against them.
And, you know, I think doing that,
you have a better chance of succeeding than kind of being in awe.
You don't want to be in awe because they're, you know,
these famous hockey players,
you just want to, you know, get out there and play your game.
You know, it's really cool right now.
We're seeing the rise of your team with San Jose Sharks,
the Anaheim Ducks now.
have made their way into the playoffs.
We'll see what happens with the Los Angeles Kings, Copa Tars out.
But we'll see what happens with, like, L.A.,
like we're starting to see again.
We'll close on this, the rise of hockey in California again.
Like San Jose Anaheim games are going to be nasty for a long time.
For sure.
Anaheim, L.A., we, Chicago, like all these teams, they got good.
Vegas.
Yeah, I mean, they all got, you know, good young chorus coming in.
and, you know, like you said, it might, yeah, the hockey might change a bit, so we'll see.
It's awesome.
Thanks so much for stopping by.
Thanks, Jeff.
Thanks so much.
Really appreciate it.
Have the great rest of your week here.
Thank you.
Have a great summer.
No, yeah.
Take care.
Michael Misa.
Great interview, great player.
Exceptional status once upon a time, folks.
Let's not forget about that, too.
He's always been an exceptional player and really generous with his time.
Zach, you got anything on the program today, whether it was Gags, whether it was Tyler, whether it was Michael Mesa.
I mean, great show here today so far.
Thank you to the team for having us here as well.
Very cool to get this opportunity.
I just thought it was cool hearing that they're going to go train with Sellebrini.
You don't really think about that that often about these guys going and training together.
Yeah, well, him and Nicaratus and...
Yeah, and Dickinson flying out there and spending a couple of weeks with him.
I mean, something you always think about guys just go where they're localized and that's where they train.
But cool to see that the young guys are going to stick together and get that.
opportunity. Maybe Celebrini is at his 15 sheets by then when he signs this
new deal. More. More. Caprize off, Caprize off, capris off. It's funny too. I always
think about that but negotiating with someone like Macklin-Sellee. I don't know how much
negotiating there is. Yeah. It's like he means just so much to the franchise, so much of the
organization, not just on a, from a hockey point of view, but marketing, um, interest,
brand, all of it. Like, it just seems like one of those situations where,
Mike Greer kind of says like,
okay, we have to put a team here together.
We know you're probably worth the max.
I shouldn't say, bro.
You're worth the max.
Yeah, it's like what you want to take.
OV and Cid, right?
You always say that.
Same way.
The value that they brought in is so significantly beyond what they're being paid.
I'm glad you brought that up.
The two most underpaid players in the history of the NHL
are Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin for what they did to those organizations.
Yeah.
And the franchise value that was incurred because of them being on those teams.
Yeah.
And you can only offer maximum as well, no, 20% and neither of them took it.
Yeah.
Neither of them took it.
And they just added millions.
And now it's like franchises are worth billions, right?
Like, try to convince me that Ovechkin and Crosby are the two most underpaid in the history of the game based on what they did for those organizations.
Yeah, yeah.
That's entirely fair.
I was about to bring up the guy who just signed the two-year deal, 12.5 or whatever it was.
Well, he's good, too, and that was...
That's a bit different.
Yeah, we might want to throw McDave.
We'll see what the next contract is with Edmonton?
With whoever is...
Whomever is clearing the decks for two years?
Exactly.
Why did they only give Panera in a two-year extension and that?
LA? I don't know. I'm new to hockey. I don't know these. Wait a minute. We're here with
the team. Is there a Judd around here?
Moldaver conspicuous by his absence. Oh, Jeff's going to be there today. I think I'm sick.
Just had Dave on the show. I don't see Juddy in his mustache running around here. Yeah.
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What do you got today for us, Philly?
Well, Saturday night would have been the best night for me to have made a parlay.
Oh, man.
You hit on so many different things.
Missed out on that opportunity.
Did they have things on like setting NHL records or like beating Hall of Famers and they
have like those kinds of odds?
If you could have bet for four plus records to be broken or set in Saturday night's game,
I would have walked away from there.
and being set for life.
You would not have been here.
Yeah, exactly.
You would not be here right now.
Well, I made it came comfort today because this is a pretty cool one.
Oh, okay.
Very well.
Tomorrow?
Yeah, maybe you would have been missing.
MIA.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, speaking of Saturday night, Leifes fans kind of took a beating online.
So let's maybe try to prop some Leifes fans.
Everything's your ego is up.
Dylan Larkin wants a trade.
How does it affect the name?
What does this mean for the Maple Leafs?
Well, I looked over at Fandle to see what they've got going on.
This also comes.
based on what we are seeing out of the NHL Combine,
which you were at over the weekend.
Vandual right now has some specials up, Jeff.
I don't know if you can read these,
so I'll explain that to you here.
Gavin McKenna specials, Jeff Merrick.
Oh, already.
Yes, so they've got a couple of these up right now,
one of which, Gavin McKenna, to record 30 plus goals
and the Maple Leafs to make the playoffs plus 1,100.
Gavin McKenna, this one.
There's a lot of goals, man.
Gavin McKenna to record 30 plus goals
and the Maple Leafs to win the Atlantic Division
that one is plus 2,200
that one I think stay away from
that one should be so much longer than what it is
Okay, and then you could also just bet on Gavin McKenna goals
for next season, 20 plus goals
That one is currently sitting up plus 196
Gavin McKenna 25 plus plus 230
McKenna to record 30 plus 1060
There's also some other ones in there you can bet on his point
and that kind of stuff, but I just featured those ones for the sake of today's show.
Yeah, it very much does feel like the draft begins at two.
Yes.
Right?
Like, the Maple Leafs take Gavin McKenna, and then everybody moves along.
By the way, normally the top guys don't do the best at the Combine.
He did very well.
McKenna was awesome.
Yeah.
I was stunned.
I was really, really shocked at how good McKenna was.
Just based on, again, like the top guys, they don't do it.
And I'll give you one more.
This was brought up to my attention by an agent last year,
and I really think about this a lot.
So for the top guys,
so all the grunting and sweating takes place on Saturday morning in Buffalo at the scouting combine.
And guys like Chase Reed, Gavin McKenna, Caleb Malhotra,
all the top guys, like they go out with NHL teams to dinner.
It's like every single night leading up to the exercise portion of the affair
on Saturday.
So, like, every night, it's a different, like, steak dinner or lobster dinner.
And then by the time they get to Saturday, they've had, like, four or five massive feasts.
And then it's like, all right, get the dry fits on now, boys.
Yeah.
And that's how cranking out, cranking out chin-ups.
What are you going to do?
Go to dinner and be like, no, I'm going to order the salad.
Like, no, you've got to order the steak.
You're out with the GM and the coach potentially.
If anything, you should do it the other way around.
Right.
You should do like all the exercise, like all the testing on the first day.
Yes.
And then go and like expand the waistline.
Yeah.
Afterward.
Then go out and do all the, do all the, by the way, I spoke to Carl Olsner this morning for the, yeah, for the hockey lifers pod.
And we were talking about the combine because I had him on a few weeks ago.
And he was talking about how he had the worst combine interview ever with Washington.
He said that they asked him to tell a joke.
and he said he told the joke and was met with silence.
He said it went over so poorly.
And he left the room saying,
oh, they're never going to draft me.
The one team I know I'm not going to are the Washington Capitals.
They are not drafting me.
And the Caps, of course, did.
And so I talked to Ross Mahoney last week,
his 29th draft in the NHL.
His first pick for the Caps was Alex.
Vetchkin.
And I asked him about that.
He has a great line,
my Labrador retriever could have made that pick.
Like, you don't make that pick.
And he said that the main thing that they were impressed with was his maturity.
The joke is the joke or whatever.
They just want to see how mature a kid is.
And so I asked him about his combine experience.
And he said, because we've always heard the, you know,
Can't Do a Chin Up, Sam Bennett and Gary Roberts perform and all that.
he said at his combine, he couldn't do a single sit-up.
Sit-up, not one.
Wow.
They got down and he was like, okay, no, do sit-ups.
And he was like, what?
And so he tried to do one, couldn't do it.
We just never done them before?
I guess not.
And he couldn't do one.
And so the tester asked him, do you want to try again?
And he's like, yeah, I'll try again.
And he got, what did he say, six?
And that was it.
But his first go-around, he could do zero.
Zero.
Wow.
They let him try it again.
He did six.
Wow.
And here's a guy who played how many years in the NHL, top pairing defensemen in the NHL at his combine at his first go-around, could do zero sit-ups.
Wow, that's unbelievable.
The sit-ups, I can't believe.
Yeah.
The pull-ups, I get that.
And it's also different for everybody.
Bench press can sometimes be difficult.
Didn't Ben and have a wrist injury, and that's why he couldn't do the chinnies?
I thought it was shoulder, but yeah, maybe wrist, yeah.
But yeah, so sometimes there's things that go along with these sit-ups.
Sit-ups.
In general.
Bagel.
Carl Olsner.
What do you do when you get out of bed in the morning, Carl?
I don't know.
He just rolls over, swings his legs out.
Yeah, wild.
Played hockey.
That was an interesting one.
Yeah, that is wild.
Even though your Gavin McKenna was rocking the combine.
Maybe he was.
It would be all end all.
He was playing chess.
Everyone else was playing checkers.
Clearly.
He didn't go to the world championships, not because he was going to not get minutes and play as the 13th forward,
because he was getting ready for the combine.
Stenberg, who couldn't participate in the events because he was tired and sick, you know?
It's because he was at the world championships.
He's out there drinking and doing all whatever else he was doing with Team Sweden.
That's great.
There's your headline from the show, the headline from the program today.
Sorry, Stembert.
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You have a closing thought here from Upper Canada College.
Great spot, by the way.
This is your Men's League on.
Yeah, this campus is unbelievable too.
I think I've talked about it on here,
but I played like the Men's League lacrosse in the summer as well,
just like some pickup.
It's here. It's here.
This is your second home then.
This is, you know, UCCOL.
It's a beautiful place.
The cradle of leadership.
Canadian politics at Upper Canada College.
Oh, yeah, I graduated like so many.
Oh, yeah, you've never heard this before of UCC?
The cradle of leadership?
Yeah.
No, no.
Maybe I just call it that because so many fancy pantses have come out of here.
I came here for hockey camp.
Tom Watt.
Tom Watt, he used to always have the great,
Tom Watt, he used to always have the great line about what he wants his blue line to be.
Did ever tell you this one?
No.
He was asked about his blue line.
He said, I want agile, virile, hostile,
hostile, dancing bears.
Wow.
Agile, virile, virile, virile.
hostile dancing bears
It's kind of funny you came here and you did the two week camps here
My parents would ship me off to the two weeks
Do you go Halliburton?
No, I did Roger Nielsen's in Aurora
But they would do the stay over at St. Andrew's College
So I lived in Aurora
Four minutes from the arena
And my parents were like, you're staying over kid
And you probably loved it
Yeah I was like eight and they were like
You're gone, you're going to stay over it
You know who's team I was on actually at that?
Whose team?
Travis Dermit
Because they put you in big groups
Right
so you're with a bunch of people.
I like Travis Dermott, man.
I thought it's a really good defense.
Great feat.
Man, could be ever skate.
Dermann was awesome.
Listen, thanks to the team for hosting us here at Upper Canada College.
Their development camp continues over the next few days.
Thanks to Dave Gagne for stopping by.
I thanks to Michael Misa for stopping by.
And live from Vegas, our very own Tyler Yeremchuk.
Where's Nick Caroli?
Nick, take the rest of the week off.
Great job setting up.
Tell Amel, you're good, and we'll pull a little something extra in your envelope too.
All right, we'll talk.
And thanks.
Philly, by the way, show us the hat.
We've been talking so much about your Everett hat that I finally got to give to you.
This is from our friends with the Everett Silver Tips.
Nice hands, kid.
The hands go first.
Look at that beauty.
You're going to wear that?
Is that one going on the wall?
No, I will be wearing that.
I will be wearing that.
But it will be rotating.
But that's a beautiful hat.
And that nice one?
And you show the logo on the side there, too.
Oh, geez, the bear.
Yeah, of course.
Beautiful.
I can't wait to wear that.
Yeah.
Tips got the great look.
They really do.
Some of the best look in that.
in the CHL. Okay, that's it for us here from Upper Canada College. Thanks so much for listening.
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