The Shintaro Higashi Show - Heading to the Dojo with Shintaro

Episode Date: September 5, 2022

Many people listen to the Shintaro Higashi Show while heading to the dojo, driving, taking the bus or train, biking and walking. In this solo episode, Shintaro becomes your buddy and heads to the dojo with you while talking about his life in and outside of the dojo. Please support us on Patreon if you can: https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!

Hello everyone, welcome back to the Shintaro Higashi Show with Peter Yu. Today we are without Peter Yu, it's just going to be me, it's a solo episode. I wanted to try something new. So, if you're anything like me, you guys are probably out there driving to the dojo or going to work or something, tuning in because you like martial arts. And so I just kind of thought maybe it would be nice to just reach out to you guys and talk to you guys direct. You know, it's something that I love and I want to start off with, you know,

saying thank you very much for listening. The feedback that we get through comments and Discord and Patreon, it means an immense deal to me because this is actually my life's work. You know, I spent my whole life training, doing martial arts, and it's an ever-evolving thing. I'm constantly learning. And I get to share that with you guys.

You know, and not only am I just kind of talking at you guys and telling you what I know, you guys are seeing in real time my learning process as well, especially when I talk about like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or something, which little by little I start getting drawn to because just the sheer number of people doing it and the number of people that are coming to my dojo with Jiu-Jitsu experience willing to learn Judo. You know, and I need to sort of keep up right because if they're doing a baron bowl and i have no idea what the hell's going on you know it's going to kind of be bad right and it is grappling and it is martial arts so i'm naturally going to

be drawn to it so you know thank you guys for watching and listening all this stuff keep the comments coming keep the subscriptions and all that stuff and the messages you know i can't get to all of them obviously i just physically cannot i don't have the time, but I greatly appreciate it. So thank you very much. Today, you know, I kind of want to talk a little bit about my thoughts driving into the dojo. You know, I just did the drive. I'm in my apartment near the dojo and I was driving in and then I was thinking about doing this episode because, you know, you guys are probably driving or doing whatever, you know, maybe even like doing dishes or something. So just kind of like stream of thought stuff when it comes to martial arts.

And, you know, the first thing that came to my mind driving to the dojo today is entering the dojo with a little bit of intent. I'm a little bit at fault for letting the dojo and the business side kind of go on autopilot, which is sort of the default settings, right? It's like, I'm just letting the thing run. It's sort of a, I don't want to say it's a well-oiled machine because it's not, you know, things need attention. You know, you need staff, you need labor. You know, you need to actually, I need to actually physically be there to teach the classes or just won't work, right? But we fall into this sort of default and it's kind of like when you're training too, it's like you do the same techniques over and over, you're kind of going through the same process, same warm-up without any intent on actually getting better or working on it, you know, with sort of like this mindfulness, you know? So I was driving into the dojo today, one of the things that I wanted to go into practice today was I am going to actively try to focus on some of my beginner students, which sometimes I got to tell you, they get neglected because I like seeing my buddies too. situation, I'm going in, you know, I want to hang out with George, I want to see my cousin Eugene, you know, I'm going to talk to this guy, that guy, and I'm very invested in some of the more advanced students because they've been with me for so long, so I know their game, it's very familiar,

you know, sometimes I talk to a beginner and they're like, hey, you know, can you show me this move, I think it's called tai otoshi, and it's kind of just like, oh man, here we go, I mean, it's like how many times did he teach the same basic stuff over and over again you know and it requires me to sort of be in a frame of mind where it's like don't put them off right just because i'm annoyed by a question like this uh it really is not their fault it's their first time learning judo of course they're going to have that question you know so being more accepting of that and then, you know, putting myself in the right frame of mind to be like, you know what, it's your job to focus on the beginners because if you do this, they're eventually going to grow and get better and become blue belts and

brown belts and black belts. And they're going to be very useful and helpful to the whole community. Right. So that's sort of what I was thinking about, into the dojo today. You know, and obviously I think it's very important to dedicate a certain percentage of time to the beginners and allocate, you know, I'm going to this percentage of the time to these people, that percentage of time, those people. And then I could sort of after that's done with, I could sort of focus on some of my advanced guys when they stay after for the Rundori session. You know, so that's kind of the way I want to approach practice today. I know it's very easy for me to just walk in and, you know, just do my thing, hang out, talk, hey, how's your weekend? Great, you know, it's Monday today. Hey, what are you working on? I'm working on this for Backstep Uchimata and entry, this and that, you know, what about you? And, you know, just talk to the people that I want to talk to, you know, and it's different from sort of the general service business, right? Because martial arts has such a hierarchical system

embedded into it, you know, naturally black belt is sort of the most sought after thing. And it's like, oh, if you're wearing a black belt, right, you have a certain feel, certain aura, right? You're accomplished're accomplished you know and i'm walking in there with a red and white belt so it's natural for the people who are already bought into the community to kind of fall into this i don't say checks and balances not really checks and balance but like this sort of structure you know and so if i choose to only interact with brown belts and black belts i become sort of this inaccessible person. You know what I mean? Like from a white belt, yellow belt perspective. And all of a sudden,

when they ask a question that may potentially sort of be out of line, which is a legitimate question, you know, they might ask something like, Osorogari, right versus right, right versus left, how does it differ? And then you can see some of the like, the green belts and stuff, like, rolling around. It's like, oh, my God, we went over this two weeks ago, whatever it is. You know? And because of that reaction, you know, it kind of cascades up to me being like, oh, man, I'm showing something completely different right now. Like, what is this guy? You know?

And then they sort of get the heat and they feel sort of the microaggressions and all the stuff, you know, and it becomes sort of like this like unwelcoming place where people are sort of like, oh, man, I can't freely open up and speak to this guy, you know, because of the pressure around me and because of the way the society here is set up, you know. So I kind of have to actively break that. And I do sometimes check that kind of behavior when someone asks a question and someone's like oh my god jesus christ is so dumb you know i'm like hey man dude you can't be doing that you know of course you had questions like that when you were a beginner too you know and let's speak to each other in a positive manner and have a voice for everybody and that's sort of the culture that I want to push forward in the dojo but you know if you're not actively thinking about it and then acting on that kind of a mindset you know things kind of

fall into this natural this guy's a black belt and he did this and the green belt and that and the white belt and then it becomes like this hierarchy again, you know, and it's kind of everywhere, right? I mean, it's in the workplace. If you work a corporate job, you know, like it's not just specific to martial arts. You know what I mean? Like you don't go over your boss and go to the boss above or the person above. You know, if you're in middle management, you don't go to the CEO for a request and say, hey, you know, can I get the next week off? You know, the CEO will be like, listen like listen man what are you coming to me and

asking for there's like 19 people between us like go to your hr and ask that guy you know um obviously it's not a perfect analogy because the dojo isn't a corporation uh but you guys get the gist, you know, I hope. So, yes, I kind of have to actively kind of work that kind of a thing. And it's to trickle down leadership thing. When I'm with my black belts, I have to kind of actively tell them these things, too, you know, and it starts with sort of management of staff, which I've also been neglecting lately. I am not a micromanager in most cases even when I have somebody teach a class for me it's like hey man you've seen me teach all these years you've been around the dojo go ahead just teach whatever you want to teach run it the way you want it to run it just make sure no one gets hurt you know and I just have sort of safety protocols but that's all

I sort of give them you know and if I have sort of a younger black belt running class, I'll just say, you know what, no Rondori tonight, you run the class, I can't make it, you know, I have Corona, whatever, you know, so it's kind of one of those guys, but yeah, that's what I was thinking about coming in, you know, maybe I should actively sort of manage my employees a little bit more, I don't want to say employees, but the labor force within the dojo, it's a huge portion of what shapes the community and the culture of the gym. So that's something that I need to actively do. So yeah, that's what I was thinking about driving in. I don't know what you guys are thinking about driving into the dojo, but I hope it's something that is geared toward self-improvement, obviously,

and making yourself better. And, you know, when we do these kinds of things, it requires a little bit of introspection, really, because you have to kind of take a look at yourself, you know, and say to yourself, like, am I falling into certain patterns of behavior that I don't really want to be in, you know? So this mindful approach is really nice going into the gym. You know, how often do we drive to practice and say, hey, you know, what's going on to the same people? And then do the same drills half-ass and then work out and do only Rundori with the same people. And then essentially your Monday practice looked like your last week's Friday practice, which exactly looked like Wednesday's practice,

which looked like last week's practice. You're really not getting better at all. You know, and I've fallen to that pattern before too. You know, there's guys, you know, that I like doing Rundori with. It's a list of people that I trust that aren't going to hurt me, you know? And yeah, it's like when I

go with a yellow belt that I've never gone with, I'm probably going to get poked in the eye, you know, or kicked in the shin, so generally I avoid them, you know, like, so, right, it's not even the white belts, you know, it's the yellow belts who know just enough, right, that are, you know, going for crazy stuff, and, you know, I see with the black belts too, you know, going for crazy stuff. And, you know, I see it with the black belts too. You know, there's even rivalries within the dojo and, you know, people have their egos and such and they stay away from each other. They try not to make eye contact, you know?

And, you know, maybe there's some ill will there. They had an issue before, who knows? You know, there's lots of different factors that kind of go into this. But the question you have to ask yourself a lot of times is like, am I having the same practice over and over? You know, and if you are, then, you know, you're not yielding better results every time you go into practice, you know, so that's something to be strongly considered. And, you know, I think it goes the same thing with everything, you know, whether it's running

a dojo or running a business or going to work or going to the gym. You know, I think it goes the same thing with everything, you know, whether it's running a dojo or running a business or going to work or going to the gym. You know, I see this guy at the gym, you know, he's a much smaller dude, but I see this guy doing the same exercises day in and day out. He like, oh, put it at this weight, put it at that weight, do this and do that. Like there's no progressive overload. You know, I'm never like, I mean, maybe there is, who knows? I don't really know because I don't have all the info right I'm not there for every workout that he does nor am I actually looking at exactly how much he's benching but to me every time I see him in the gym

he's doing the same thing he's on the same machine he's doing the same exercises he's right around this region on the weight on the pins on the machine the you know the machine weights and stuff like that and the guy's just not getting jacked you know um it's okay you know it's okay but if you want to get better i think you have to actively think and try and strategize and then you know work your practices in a certain way. You have to design it and then actually pursue it in order to yield the best results. You know what I mean? I know this is a thing that I'm trying to speak to you guys about,

but a lot of this is just for myself as a reminder to myself to be better, really. And the summer is kind of the perfect time for me to kind of like sit back and like uh you know cruise a little bit because you know the kids all go away and it's quiet and people go on vacation and it's a lot smaller of a class so it's very easy for me to be just be like hey eugene can you run friday's class hey george can you run tuesday's class whatever it is and then not show up for the kids class and just assume, you know, it's running smoothly. You know, if you're Kevin and you're listening to this podcast right now, there is a ring camera in the dojo and I do check in and I watch sometimes. But, you know,

they're not going to have the same amount of care as the owner. They just never are. You know, they're employees and, you know, I don't even want to say employees, right? Because, you know, all my guys who are working at the dojo are homegrown. You know, they're homegrown guys, came through the system. They love it and they want to contribute somehow. And little by little, they get titrated in, you know, to teaching the kids or doing this or being front-facing with the membership and stuff like that. But yeah, getting better every day, really important stuff. I hope you guys have that same mindset.

I assume you guys do. You know, if you're doing martial arts, it really is about self-improvement and getting better. You know, so I assume you guys are already doing all these different things and just kind of rambling at this point. Please give me feedback on Instagram if you like this kind of content. Just me rambling about nonsense. What am I working on now in terms of technique? That's a good question.

I want to get more better at Tomoe Nage. Yeah, I'm kind of... Yeah, Tomoe Nage is like a very cool technique. Yoko Tomoe Nage, straight back tomo nage, and I want to be able to link that move to techniques that have not really been seen, you know, fake tomo nage ochi, fake tomo nage kochi, pretty common, you know what I mean, but yoko tomo nage to the left, the right side, you know, the weak side, and generally you won't go in that direction because if i'm doing right versus right if i'm going to my right i don't control that sleeve on the direction of that tomanage okay so people can post on that hand and some great athletes who do tomanage can you know

catch that hand on the way down or drop and then pull them over on the sleeve's hand side. Okay, so that's pretty common. But still, it's not the most common yoko tomonage, right? You usually go yoko tomonage to the side that you have the sleeve control already, you know? So faking to this side and selling that weak side tomonage, and then as they're posturing up and then resisting back, coming across and going for Osoto, right? Like a cross-body Osoto with a hand to the chin, you know, something like that, you know, would be really cool, right? And then if they read that and then pull their leg away,

dropping underneath for a right Seinagi, like what a cool combination, right? Fake weak side to Munaghe, cross-body Osoto to drop Seinagi, drop Bote Seinagi. Like, what a cool combination, right? Fake weak side Tomonage, cross body Osorio, to drop Seinagi, drop Bote Seinagi, right? That would be really cool. But this issue is this.

Drilling that specific sequence, how often will you get exactly the right timing and the position to be able to do this? You know what I mean? So it would have to be sort of a right versus right, even or slightly losing position, right, to be able to enter into that Tomonage. So you fake the Yoko Tomonage, they resist, you would just go across Osoro,

that leg has to go away, and then drop Seinagi, okay? So there's a lot of different requirements to be able to hit that exact combination. So for me to look for that and then force those reactions, if any one of those reactions don't get made, then that whole combination is gone, right? So you can't force that, right? So how do I improvisationally do techniques and put together techniques like that. Where it's like a weak side technique that may or may not work, that's sort of a drop technique, right?

A sacrifice technique to an opposite side of complementary technique as you're gaining position and then going underneath. You know, so that's an interesting idea. You know, maybe right verse right, same idea, right? Same shape. verse right, same idea, right? Same shape.

Fake kataguruma, right? Bakuto soto to drop taiyo. That's a good one, right? How do we come up with these combinations that have never been seen before? You know, can I do these combinations on the fly as people are giving me these reactions? Sometimes I can, sometimes I cannot, you know? Because, yes, you could hit and force a lot of things on beginners,

but beginners don't have a very nuanced defense system. So it's generally a direct attack that works on very beginners, and then you go intermediate, and then the best things that work are you know quick misdirectional stuff hey i'm going this way no i'm going that way so these combinations will only really work on higher level guys who have nuanced defense systems right how can i proactively read that get the reaction that I want to get, and put together these three

combinations on the fly, right? Getting myself in that mindset. That's really important, you know, and that's what I'm sort of working on. And that's what I meant, you know, I was trying to kind of figure it out in my head how to word it. And it all kind of starts with Tomonage, because Tomonage, you know, yeah, it's a very interesting one, you know, the reaction's different, you know what I mean, if you're going for a Soto, there's a certain reaction defensively, if you're going for any turn throw, there's another certain extra type of reaction, but Tomonage, you have to like posture up and lean up and then you have to kind of squat down right you're not doing the usual defense

i mean i guess you are depending on what kind of tomo nage but yeah getting a quick reaction out of that tomo nage and then entering into a one two three punch system and you're anticipating every single one of these reactions you know I want to get there you know uh yeah that's what I want to do and I'm kind of working on that you know and then I look at it and think to myself like okay who am I going to try this on today you know who has you know reaction time and who's capable. It's like, okay, you know, let's just use George as an example because he's a great partner. He's a great uke.

A lot of guys know him from my YouTube channel. He's very big and strong. But he gets defensive in a way where he stiffs his arms out and stuff like that. It's like he may not give me the proper reactions to be able to close the distance enough to do it. You know, and yeah it's uh i don't drill enough you know i gotta drill more yeah now i'm just kind of like thinking and rambling and i don't even know where i'm going with this but yeah maybe i have to drill a little bit more. It's like the better you get and the more you teach,

the less you actually actively drill, you know? So maybe I will drill this combination tonight. I definitely want to hit it on George, but I feel like George is not going to give me... You know, and I'll probably fall back to my default stuff that already works. You know, pulsing, pulsing. He's giving defense, defensive stiff arm. You know, cut the hand. Dominant know, pulsing, pulsing. He's giving defense, defensive stiff arm. You know, cut the hand.

Dominant position, two on one. And then just drag him around and force Uchimata or something. You know, that's kind of my go-to. You know, the risk is a lot higher going with George because if I'm in losing position and he dives in for an Osada, I could get taken over.

You know, he's very strong. He's very big. You know, and if I fake a Tomonage at the same time he lunges for an Osada, I could get taken over. You know, he's very strong. He's very big. You know, and if I fake a Tomonage at the same time he lunges for an Osada, I could get taken down, right? But, you know, I shouldn't be afraid of getting taken down. You know, I really shouldn't. But I am.

You know, I don't want to get taken down in front of everybody. You know, and that's sort of also the thing that, you know, prevents great guys from getting even better they don't take risk you know and you have to put yourself in bad positions where you could actually potentially get taken down you know in order to sort of leaps and bounds break through plateaus you know uh letting a big guy like george go georgian you know and staying in the pocket you know, and staying in the pocket, you know, while he's trying to rip Osoto and rip Harai Makikomi, you know, getting in there tight and then try to counter, like, stuff like that I gotta start doing, you know, so I think my approach today is going to be letting George

get in dominant position consistently, right? Not going to grip fight, because then I'll fall back to my default training methodology of grip fighting, dominant position, dragging him around and bang, right? Even like double lapel sleeve, lapel sleeve, 50-50, he takes generally a more defensive posture because he respects my upright judo right

and then instead of just forcing stuff I'll probably try to cut the hand or something and then force stuff or fake something cut the hand to be truly dominant so it doesn't give him an opportunity to kind of be offensive at all you know I like to shut it all down before

but today maybe I'm gonna go you know no grip fighting just let him put two hands on, and then the first two exchanges, go Tomonage, go Tomonage, and then he'll get a little bit more comfortable and confident gaining hand position, and I'll let him get it, and then once I get there, I'll do Tomonage, he'll react, I'll go Soto, Sanagi, maybe I get it, maybe I don't i don't and then you know maybe i'll put my right

hand down which is technically wrong and then kind of feed him that georgian grip and then i'll go georgian b i'll try to force georgian b that's what i'll do try to force georgian b and then just try to stay in the pocket and if i get get thrown, I get thrown. You know, I'm working on something. You know, so... Yeah, this is the type of active training that I need to do. You know, coming in with a plan. You know, making myself get better every day. So that's going to be my round with George.

I know George is coming. And then, you know, we have Big Kevin. He's lefty. You know, he likes closing the distance. And then press you know, we have big Kevin. He's lefty. You know, he likes closing the distance and then pressuring this arm from the top side. He's bigger than me. So I generally avoid that position as well, you know, but I'm going to give it to him. And it's a little risky because he does a little bit of Taniyatoshi from there. And, you know, you know how I feel about Taniyatoshi, but I'll be aware of it, you know, and if I feel like he's going to go Taniyatoshi, I'll, you know, shift my weight to the other leg, or, you know, if he comes in, I'll turn and I'll

go to my back, I'll let him throw, you know, as opposed to trying to get my leg all entangled in there, but yeah, maybe I'll do, I'll let him get position two, know that way I can work on positions that are weaker you know and I think it's a little bit more intuitive with Nwaza and Jiu Jitsu guys do a little bit more of this kind of training because it's not as visible you start in mount

guy starts in the mounted position you're on bottom there's no shame in getting submitted you start with the guy on your back and you have to work escapes like hey i'm working escapes you know what i mean but like when you kind of let the person get the grip and then you're doing stand-up and then you get bombed everyone seizes you know and it's a huge blow to your ego obviously right because everyone you know like it or not you know people watch and practice from the side like oh you know and you know you may tell me you don't care or I have no ego, but, you know, some people have an ego, you know,

I have an ego, you know, I don't want to get bombed in front of everyone, you know, especially when my majority of my identity is being good at judo, right, and then having my students bomb me, you know, even though that is the ultimate goal to have my students outperform and get better than me because the goal is to transfer all my knowledge and make them really good judo athletes. Right? So, yeah, there you have it. You know, those are the three things now. You know, driving into the dojo, thinking about this stuff.

You know, being more proactively kinder to the beginners, giving them a little bit more attention because it's not my default to be able to do so. Managing my senseis. I don't want to say workers or laborers or employees. I don't want to say that. Managing my

teachers a little bit better. teachers a little bit better you know and yeah and you know I have things to work on in Judo

right so it's 5.20 now on a Monday you know class starts at 7 you know sometimes I roll in 6.30

6.40 15 minutes before class don't want to get back then I just kind of hang out and whatever, you know. Hey, sensei, can I ask you a question? No, do you not see me having a conversation with George right now? I'm having a full-blown conversation with George, you know. Go ask Greg.

That's the thing that, you know, that's my default. You know, that's not good. That's bad, you know. So I want to actively try to break that today. I'll go in an hour early. I'm going to go in at 6 p.m. today. Because I know the kids' class ends at 6. So I'll catch Kevin and Greg and then talk to them.

And try to be a little bit more of an active manager. I'm going to say, hey, what can I do to make your experience here as a teacher better? That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to do that today. Have a conversation with them. And, you know, we have a staff meeting on Wednesday. First one in about six months. I haven't done that in a very long time.

Probably should do more of them. I know Equinox has staff meetings every Wednesday at 1 p.m. Religiously. I haven't done one in six months. Way too long. Been on autopilot. And then kind of get in this like, you know, it's summer, you know. Go to the pool.

Hang out. So I'm going to try to rein it back in. Especially fall comes around things are going to pick up kids are going to come back you know i want to make sure my teachers are trained properly to greet them and meet them and properly show them the right judo and then they're motivated in a way where they're actively interacting with parents and kids and making it fun smiling even when they don't want to smile right right? You know, we all go through moments of like, oh, I don't feel like it.

I get like that all the time, you know? So do that, and then I have my agenda in judo practice, right? I want to do this. I want to do that. Work out with George. I got to do a round with George. I got to do a round with Kevin. And then I got to make sure I do my rounds with my yellow belts today. I'm going to look through the list and say,

who have I not done Rondori with in a long time? I'm going to only pick those guys. Yeah. Because it's very easy to go, you know, with the people that you like. You know, this guy, Noel, he's been working so hard. You know, he's the most talented guy i know he's just a nice kid you know he comes in he's all smiles he's so kind like i want to work out with him i want to help him you know get in shape and be good at judo so it's like i always get him like oh come here man and i always work out with him you know and it's not fair to the other guys you know who are standing around him he's like why is he always get to work out with sensei you know not that i have a conversation with this kid like i don't usually talk to him that much

but every time he's in the room i'll do a randori round with him not every time but like a lot you know he does more randori with me than most of the yellow belts probably even combined so i'm gonna actively try to work with the others and And yeah, that's going to be my day. You know, thank you guys for listening to me rant today. I could only imagine it being like the most boring episode ever. You know, because usually like Peter's here, we joke around. He's like constantly throwing me softballs. You know what I mean?

Like, tell me about your Taito-shi. He's like, all right, let me tell you about my Taito-shi. You throwing me softballs you know like tell me about your tai toshi he's like all right let me tell you about my tai toshi you know softballs right um it's just me literally talking to a camera i have no idea how it's going it sounds really dumb but maybe not i don't know who knows you know? So yeah, my pre-workout drive into dojo brain dump. Let me know if this was helpful in any way. And maybe you guys can give me some suggestion on solo episodes too, you know, just because, you know, sometimes Peter gets busy

and I'm busy and we have a hard time coordinating sometimes. And it would be nice to sort of pad the bank. You know, we have a bank of podcasts that we sort of slowly release out there. And it'd be nice to have some to take the pressure off, you know, because I know Peter is a PhD student. You know, he's studying coding, all this stuff. And, you know, he has to like come in here

and edit videos and do this and that. And it's just so much work. And I'm so grateful for him, you know he has to like come in here and edit videos and do this and that and it's just so much work and i'm so grateful for him you know great friend all that you know great student really miss him i want him to come back to new york so badly he was in new york for a week it was the best you know he does hurt a lot of my beginners, though. So I'm very happy, you know, that he doesn't do that anymore. But yeah, very grateful for Peter. Thank you guys. Very grateful for you guys. You know, thank you for listening.

Yeah, that's it. Find me on Instagram, judoshintarnyc. I've been really actively trying to put more interesting reels out there. You know, I'm kind of finding out that like you know it's a nice creative outlet right yeah i'm like oh i'm gonna try this sayanagi like the four-way sayanagi in slow motion like i did that recently it was a lot of fun making it you know actually it wasn't that much fun making it it was just like me doing but it was like a thing that I was like, oh,

what would be interesting, you know, actually didn't really get that many views either. You know, but anyway, I'm actually trying to, you know, work on my Instagram content. So yeah, find me on there, you know, hopefully you guys like it and then you guys can send me dms and give me some feedback and uh yeah that's that you guys have a great practice great day great week

you know it's uh august 8th that i'm recording this at 5 30 i don't know why i just told you guys that uh probably very useless information but yeah thank you again and uh have a great one