The Shintaro Higashi Show - Judo and Fighting

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

Judo is first and foremost a "martial" art and is about "fighting". In this episode, Shintaro and Peter discuss fundamental elements about fighting. What exactly is fighting? What are some common misconceptions? Where does Judo fit in, and what does it not cover?  Please support us on Patreon if you can: https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!

hello everyone welcome back to the shintaro higashi show with peter yu today we're going to talk a little about judo and fighting but before we start the episode uh thank you very much for all our patrons who have started contributing to our page to help support this channel right peter some of these guys are amazing we're on a discord now right that's right we got a little community going on there you know we talk about judo and our daily lives you know with some of them are software engineers so we talked about you know and our daily lives you know with some of them are software engineers so we talked about you know tech a little bit you know yeah it's like who's going to practice today there's a channel that has uh what is it uh technique review yeah that's awesome right

that that's an awesome channel because you post a video of you doing something and shintaro will give you personal feedback direct direct feedback. That's right. So it's good times. Good times. So check us out on Patreon. I also got a haircut. If you're not watching this live, you can go to YouTube and see my new haircut. It's crazy. It's very short.

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We're talking about fighting. That's right. That's right. That's right. So we kind of touched on this when we talked about self-defense. So I think in the same vein, we have to kind of define what fighting is. Judo is a martial art. After all, there's a martial aspect of it, which means fighting. So what is fighting, really? It's just about self-defense what is it

yeah yeah so fighting and martial arts get used interdependently right like inter right interchangeably yeah but i i disagree that they're both the same thing it's like oh i do martial arts oh you might be really you might be a fighter it's a little bit different you know there's fighting elements in martial arts and there's martial elements in fighting. Right. And then if you look at sort of like a Venn diagram, there's definitely a crossover. Right. For instance, slamming someone on their head or punching someone in the face.

Those are elements that are shared both by fighting and martial arts. Right. Right. Right. And there's also another circle, self-defense. Ah. That's right. Right.

And that is a completely different thing because awareness and all these other stuff plays a role. When you're doing martial arts and when you're fighting somebody, right, it's already assumed that you guys are engaged and that there's attentiveness going on. Right. If you're walking down the street listening to the Shintaro Higashi show on your AirPods and you don't hear the person coming person coming up behind you right there is no amount of martial arts training that you can do right if they decided to just hit you in the back of the head with a bottle right you're gonna get hit right so that's another thing of course like i'm kind of going out of the scope of what we're talking about but martial arts fighting self-defense somewhat different but they do have overlapping right right that's overlapping factors that's what we kind of want to talk about today right right that's right yeah

so yeah you kind of mentioned that i think uh you're it's a important thing to be mindful of uh you know that the venn diagram there are three circles they do overlap but not completely so that kind of stuff could be a cause for some harmful misconceptions yeah definitely yeah you know the people that do martial arts for a long time for instance like a martial like aikido right it doesn't have takedown elements it doesn't have striking elements right we're going to talk about the different elements of fighting right it has some joint locks and some takedowns but it doesn't have right the other stuff right it has and there's a place for this especially people who are a little bit older right because they can't do the combative stuff right like judo stuff the show me stuff right yeah and they can't get in the ring and start boxing and throwing hands as hard as they can they just can't right it's geared toward different demographic

so because they do this martial art they've done it for a very long time all of a sudden they think to themselves like oh i could fight anybody off the street right but their training doesn't really cater right to that fighting side right you think um yep oh i uh i was just gonna say like you think that kind of misconception carries over to your so to speak show me martial arts too like judo and bjj i mean definitely definitely yeah for instance like you know wrestling someone said this to me the other day it's like wrestling has a verb to wrestle yeah right fighting has a verb to fight yeah what about judo do you do judo is there two judo two aikido right and it's different you know in jujitsu you roll right right verb forms roll hey you want to roll yeah right yeah but sometimes

in these martial arts hey do you want to fight? And that kind of stuff gets confusing too. Right, right. Because words really matter. I see. We fight every day. I fight every day. Hey, you want to fight? And then they're doing some kind of, right?

Right, right, right. And then it kind of feeds into the misconception. Oh, I am good at fighting. It's like, no, you're not. You think we shouldn't use that to fight in martial arts? I'm not saying we should or shouldn't, but you have to have someone that knows what they're talking about at the head of the room.

Sometimes it's in their best interest to be like, yes, you guys are fighters. Yes, you guys protect yourselves. Because self-defense is, right? But you just have a bunch of teachers that don't know what they're doing, or you have a bunch of teachers that aren't qualified. It's probably not someone that's listening to this episode or podcast.

But that's the problem because you don't know. And it's not at the fault of the sensei because you get sensei syndrome and everyone's like, oh, listening to you and validating all your ideas and your thoughts. Before you know it, it's very easy to buy into your own hype right right it's like oh i haven't trained in really hard in like 10 years i'm out of shape now but i can still do this because everyone thinks that i could do this right sensei's a fighter he's such a fighter and it's like oh yeah you know and you believe in your own hype right before you know it you're like oh i'm you know you have crazy crazy martial arts teacher saying like i could take uh you know I could go into the cage and win UFC. Oh, man.

I have people ask me this too. It's like, Sensei, you could probably walk in and win the UFC, right? I'm like, no. And I really tried to like curb that kind of like thing because it can easily get out of hand. It's like MMA is a different sport than judo. Right, right. Oh, but you have striking experience. Not extensively. I have a lot of judo experience. Tons of judo right right oh but you have striking experience not extensively i have

a lot of judo experience tons of judo experience a wrestling experience jiu-jitsu experience it's different from getting in the cage right if i specifically train for that that's another story i'm also 36 and i'm also banged up you know it's like a different you know it's like it's just i'm gonna go into the cage with someone who's 26 years old who's done this their whole life. That's all they've done, trained for that rule set. Right. Expect to do well without any training whatsoever. Like, that's insane.

Right, right. You know, but it's very easy to cloud that and be like, well, if I can, you know, to grab the wrist and twist it up and take them down, you know. So there's that overlap but you can't you don't want to overblow that right yeah yeah you have to be mindful enough to like sit back and be like all right and know yourself and know your capabilities right self-aware fighting yeah go back to fighting elements of fighting right yeah so if you think about fighting you know people immediately think most people think about you know people putting their hands up and start swinging, striking. Yeah.

So, but it's kind of a weird thing because, you know, we do judo and then it's not really covered. So how does that work? All right. So there's the three elements. Okay. We're going to talk fighting specifically, giving some of these assumptions. The assumption is I'm facing off with someone. It's a one-to-one setting.

There is no weapons. Okay. So we're ready. What if the guy has a knife? The guy doesn't have a knife in the scenario. What if the guy jumps out and hits you in the head with a bat? I'm already attentive. It's one-to-one.

There is no weapons. Those are the assumptions that we're making. Okay. First and foremost, face-off, face-to-face striking is first. Okay are the assumptions that we're making uh okay first and foremost face off face to face striking is first okay long distance striking short distance striking this is like boxing yeah kickboxing muay thai sort of uh field obviously right striking kicking and punching okay you could argue blocking yes you could argue moving out of the way of the kicking and punch striking striking to take down whether I could take the person down to the ground or not, okay? And then the groundwork aspect of it, right?

And they're all blended because sometimes you throw a right hand and you duck it, you take the person down, you fall down, one person gets back up, one person grabs the other person, takes the person back down, right? They're on top fighting for position, trying to hit each other in the face. Right? And the advantages of fighting for grapplers is that the average person has no grappling skill. Right. There's an informational asymmetry. If you take a person down that's never been taken down before, right? And the only time they're horizontal on the ground or they're lying down watching TV or hanging out with their dog or something. That person is not going to know what an advantage position is. That person is not going to know what to do when you are behind him controlling his neck and squeezing it.

They're just not going to know. So that's a big, big advantage. Right. Striking, on the other hand, anybody big and strong can connect yeah and knock you out those haymakers yeah yeah if you're athletic you're strong and you're coordinated there's a good chance that you get nailed in the face and get knocked out right right that so if you're a grappler the whole idea is not to get out knocked out obviously well even if you're a striker take the person down and then get them to the ground.

The advantage of judo is you could pick them up and slam them really hard. I guess you could do that in wrestling, too. So those are why the elements of martial arts or fighting are compartmentalized. And they all fit into that category. Look at judo, takedown, ground. Jiu-jitsu, ground. Wrestling, takedown. Boxing, striking.

Right, right. Right? MMA, you put them all together. Mm-hmm. Right? And the biggest thing about the fighting, right? So it's not just striking, takedown. That is the technical side of

it but there's a very strong mental component as well right right and martial arts such as judo wrestling and jiu-jitsu get to train that side because you're used to training against people who are going hard going fast who are pulling your head down and there is sort of this conflict of my goals against your goals right right full throttle like my will is to do something to you and you your goals are not to let me do that and do your own right right so once you're doing that kind of change trains you psychologically right i wonder i i do hear that and i do feel that but sometimes even then like i don't know if i'm like i'll be psychologically like composed if i actually get into a fight i guess it's better than nothing but it's better than nothing yeah you know even with like the grip fighting stuff

and you know when you're doing judo you're training yourself to be a better athlete right right fast hands coordinating hands and you know if the idea is the person's throwing a big looping right hook and then you just want to get your hands up there and right put it on the bicep or look for sort of a blocking maneuver right your coordination is better if you did judo than if you didn't do judo period right right right so those are some of the advantages is it better than you know someone that's boxed their whole life no that's a different thing right because when you're boxing you're constantly training your face to not blink and look away from these strikes so all of a

sudden punches are coming at your face and you don't really care right you're just looking right right and you're just hiding and looking and then you could do this and it's a different skill that is trained and judo you don't really get that right right because no one really is coming straight to your face so maybe the person you know pulls their hand back to throw a haymaker and maybe you look away for a split second then you're kicked in the stomach is that a possibility yes of course yeah that's why you need a little bit of both that's that's like the martial side of it you should do a little bit of striking you should know how to do some defensive fighting stuff striking stuff to supplement your judo that's eventually down the line that's i think right you want to specialize in something and then that's kind of like the old school

method now i'm sure there's people who just do MMA, just do little bits of everything. Right? Because the deeper you go into something, the less effective it is when it becomes the whole thing. If you're looking at fighting. Right, right. Right? For instance, if you only only focus on the ground, and you have zero

striking skills, and you're an expert on the ground, how are you going to get that person to the ground? You know? Right. Person's a Division I wrestler wrestler there's no way you could take him down uh how are you ever going to take him down you can't you can pull guard i guess you can pull i guess so can you imagine just pulling guard when you're fighting yeah probably i don't recommend it but yeah so those are some uh ideas about the elements of fighting right striking takedown and the ground fighting all combined together yeah yeah and then grappling you know is great because of that right it covers two out of three i guess it's three and most people don't know how to grapple right right even though

it is definitely definitely embedded in our genes to be able to do so right it is like a fundamental human need to grapple you know i spoke to the i don't know if i read this or someone said this or something maybe it was like i saw it on like a youtube video or something like that i think it was hard to hurt actually uh what's that he was saying this guy he's a youtuber uh and he was saying something like we're designed to grapple uh we're not designed to strike right everybody wants to coordinate boom big haymaker punching but our hands are designed for fine motor skills to make tools right this right and look how delicate and brittle these guys are you know and i'm not talking about like the guy that's like training girl that's training punching the heavy bag like yeah my hands are weapons i'm not talking about that person talking

about the average human being that has no training right go ahead and punch someone in the forehead or the head with it's a skull it's very difficult it's hard right you're not gonna be able to harder than the small bones in your hands. Absolutely. Harder than the small bones in your hands. So, if you look at it from that standpoint, we weren't really designed to strike.

Right. Our knees are brittle. Humans are very, very soft creatures. Right? And then if you were in part of a tribe and you were growing up and doing this and that, it's a collaborative effort always.

And you have to think about the collective good of your tribe. If you punch someone just because you're fighting over the last piece of meat and that person gets injured, you got to take care of that person. If you punch them and you break your hand, now you're the liability in the group. And it affects the entire group. It's like the east side of the mountain versus the west side of the mountain like they're coming to get you yeah and i have my hand broken and that person has a concussion right right we're not going to fare well right we're down two people right right so it's in our nature to be like you know what i want that steak you want that steak let's go and you wrestle you take each other down the person who

gets on top of all the person's like yes right you pick berries for me from now on like it's in our genes to be able to do it that way i think it's you know i don't know why i started uh going down this rabbit hole but no that was an interesting thought because it's a case for grappling we're all designed for it I think not all of us do it if you look at other animals if I look at my dog

she loves wrestling with other dogs yeah that's just how it is they're not biting they do bite a little they don't eye poke they do bite a little eye pokes yeah they don't eye poke yeah yeah they bite they do bite each other like yeah there's a little bit of like the fist to the neck or the gait to the face right there's a little bit of that just to show a little bit extra yeah it's like a little play biting you know but then they do wrestle and then i think

yeah you're right so in a way but it's kind of weird that we don't when we think of fighting we don't think of grappling like at the end of the day we're all dogs animals that's right so nobody caters to our fundamental need yeah right and that's why we're supposed to do it and just by the fact that we don't do it and we know nothing about it and then someone else holds us down there is a violent emotional response right it's a primal fear yeah it's a primal panic of like yeah oh i gotta pick berries forever from now on for this person that just held me down oh god no yeah it's it's a thing that's how that's how exactly felt when whenever ashintaro took me down go get me some berries that's a new t-shirt idea right there that's a new merch uh so yeah so that's where i think judo and other grappling arts fits in in when we talk about fighting and so we but it there is a striking element so i i was gonna ask you did say like oh you you know focus on your styles to

focus on one art and then kind of get really become an expert in that and then add other things as a supplement so i wonder how an average practitioner of judo could add striking like uh into their training regime regimen just to get such a big believer in just having a good dialogue with a good instructor by talking about it you know right like a judo judo instructor yeah judo instruction but you know a lot of the times most of the judo instructors i know are judo purists right right you ask them about boxing they're not gonna know you know and majority of the time if you're running a judo school and you're a teacher it's very difficult to say i don't know right right so you want someone with experience in both well but it's

hard to find that you know but now with the youtube and the internet it's a different ball game right because used to be right if you were only doing judo it becomes this echo chamber of oh we're all judokas oh we're all fighters oh we could all do all this stuff and then right we're just better than everybody but you know you just don't know any better. But now with YouTube and stuff, you can kind of see what else is out there, right? You know, it was like the thing to do was to like make fun of, you know, this martial art or something, right? It was the thing to do and everyone just made fun of it blindly.

But it's like have you ever walked into a school? Right. Have you ever observed the best people doing this martial art but now you can answer was no but now you can now you can left go button yeah yeah so now we know right out of all the stuff that's out there like oh what's legit what's not legit little by little we're starting to figure this out. Do students come up to you and ask you about like, Oh, how do I add tracking to my arsenal kind of thing? Yeah. We have like a karate program at the dojo.

Right. Right. Right. So it's like, yeah, we do karate. And then we have like a Tuesday karate where it's like a little bit more form based on my dad teaches that he just done it forever.

And then on Saturday mornings, we do a little bit of a sparring karate situation. So like, I'll be like, you know, depending on who it is, I'll invite them to that right and then sometimes they come and some people have muay thai experience some people have you know extensive karate experience and then we'll throw down but you know it's a very hand-selected group because i don't want people going in there teeing off and nailing each other in the head yeah and you know i even tell those guys

myself it's like hey i'm not a striking expert i'm good at it i know it right i've done traditional japanese karate for a very long time right right but don't expect me to be like a freaking you know what i mean yeah at this stuff and then all sense that you're so good it's like actually striking wise i'm not that good but you know i'm pretty good and i'll be the first one to tell you that that's right that's right so yeah yeah i see so i wonder yeah i wonder if i should add that because right now like i'm i'm feeling like because i can't i have so busy that i barely i'm barely able to do judo it's just hard for me to like try new things out you should do it you know why

why because judo schools tend to have hobbyist instructors and the schedule is very limiting right right Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays

7pm whatever it is even jiu jitsu it's like okay you can do the morning class or the evening class can you make it no this is geek class this is no geek

class yeah you go to boxing gym usually yeah it's all day and every day oh yeah yeah i mean different schools uh you know have different structures but they don't have boxing is a little bit different right boxing you could roll in and start jump roping and then you do three rounds of shadow boxing and three rounds of mitts and someone will hold it for you right especially the gym i went to it's mendez boxing in new york city oh so you don't have to have like a structure class or anything like that i mean maybe now it's different with the pandemic who knows but usually you can walk in at any time and there were trainers sitting around right and then when you walked in based on your skill level,

they'll be like, okay, three rounds of jumping jacks, three rounds of jump rope, three rounds of shadow boxing, and then I'll hold mitts for you for three rounds. Okay? Go ahead. And then bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. You hold it, and okay, three rounds on the heavy bag. And then sometimes they'll come with you if they're not busy and be like, no, no, no, bend the knee, go like this, go like this, you know?

Oh. Yeah, and then if they're busy they're already back to the other guy yeah pads or something you know and then you know eventually when you get on their radar they'll be like you should spoil this guy here i see morning at nine and then that's when you say no i'm not ready for it yet because you don't want to take shots at a head if you're trying to study you don't get a phd oh that's like in the it's like in the movie where like this uh guy comes in newbie tries hard and then gets noticed starts sparring and then gets a fight you know i i see i see that's why

how it happens you know that's actually yeah that's a i didn't know that i thought you had to go to a class and everything it's not like a class i mean there's places that have the group classes and i've taken those classes too i've taken everything you know because i consider it market research right right i think i'm like the group mma class with the bag it's like okay me punch i've gone to the elbow but i've taken those and I'm like, man, this is not an MMA class. How can you even call it an MMA class? I've taken classes like that. And I've taken classes, like I said, at the Mendez.

It's like, okay, go in there and try to get noticed. And after like three months of going all the time, they know your name. Oh, you do judo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, let's get you in the ring and let's do some sparring. Before you know it, you're sparringarring you're walking out of there punch drunk you know and you're thinking to yourself like man this cannot be good for me oh yeah yeah i don't even know yeah i see so maybe i'll look into a boxing gym you should look into a boxing gym

look into a kickboxing gym look into it all man i i'm a big believer of it you know when you're in new york obviously do some judo yeah that's right right yeah but it's nice it's good for the mind to try something new you know and you could learn a lot of striking without actually sparring eventually you're gonna have to learn how you know how to actually do it yeah right and the problem is it's hard to recognize who is a good striker because if they're showing you how to punch how to kick or something you've never seen it before, you're going to be like, oh, this guy's very good. It's very easy to fall into that thing and pick up bad habits early on. That's the beauty of YouTube. You can watch the best guys doing it, the best teachers teaching it. And now all of a sudden, it should look like that.

I see. I see. When the person is showing you how to do certain things, that doesn't look like that. This person is not as legitimate. Of course, you're not going to say this because you're in no place to do that. Because you're there to learn. I'm sure that person has something to learn. You have to sort of take account and take inventory of right the person in front of you

and then it's no one's out there you have to be an educated consumer yeah because it is a service you know you're learning right and go try it out yeah well maybe yeah i will and then maybe we'll we'll talk about it in another episode my boxing episode you're a well-rounded fighter. Going back to our main topic. I cover striking, takedown, and groundwork. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh yeah, I spar. We covered a lot of technique technical side of things maybe um i did want to i did want to talk

a little about the mental i guess some surrounding stuff like okay so with technical side of fighting three things right yeah i can take down groundwork but leading up to that i mean we i want to emphasize that we don't want to get into a fight like you know oh yes yes yes you know that's um de-escalate run you know people joke about oh the best way to defend yourself is to run kind of thing yeah yeah so being being aware of your surroundings yeah yeah and uh being attentive first right where's your attention? Right. Reading the other person and knowing if this person actually means harm or not. Yeah.

You know, even if they do mean harm, sometimes they're like, you want to go? You want to go? And then they're leading with their face. And that's a great opportunity to just close the distance and take them down, right? Yeah. But you kind of have to make that split second decision. Right. If you're not aware, you're not going to be able to do this. Right.

Or if you get freaked out, which I'm sure a lot of people are going to get freaked out when they're in that actual situation i'll get freaked out it's never going to go play the way it does in your head you know if i'm walking down the street and if i'm not attentive and someone just jumps out and punches me in the chin i'm going to go down i'm like i'm human right you have to realize this it's like we're brittle you know yeah so attention's one and statistically what happens statistically it's You have to realize this. It's like we're brittle. So tension is one. And statistically, what happens? Statistically, it's usually righties, right-handed people throwing big right-handed punches. If they really mean to do harm.

Because humans are much more coordinated with their upper bodies. You take a person that's never thrown a kick and then throw their leg, they're going to take themselves off balance. They're going to fall down. Yeah. And even like most people, when they punch and miss, they're going to take themselves off balance. They're going to fall down. Yeah. And even like most people, when they punch and miss, they're going to fall over.

I don't want to say most people, right? But this is like no training, no nothing. They wind up too much. They wind up wide. Right? So it's like if you can train specifically for that, that's going to help your chances. Right.

So attention, statistics, obviously de-escalate the whole thing. If you't have to do it don't do it look at their ears look at their years that's another one yeah right their best of years don't do it don't do it dude i'm telling you my cauliflower years got me out of so many fights i'm so jealous of your cauliflower not when i used to go to the bar that's like younger yeah all the time right ever go to the bar right and then if i had a short and tight haircut yeah ears are obviously visible uh-huh my right one's more visible than the left uh-huh so one time i'm like hanging out talking to my friend this guy bumped into me on my left shoulder and immediately he's like oh man and then he spilled the drink and then it was like

got on him got God on me. And I'm just like, oh, Jesus, you know. The guy immediately started getting aggressive. Like, yo, what the hell, man? Like, you owe me a drink and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, Jesus, here we go. And I took it over to my left shoulder to see where my friends were, right? Because I was like, you know, strapped and numbed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. With my wrestling team. Another, you know, attention, you know. Yeah. I was like, all right, why would I deal with this person one-to-one maybe he has two friends i was like i got 15 of them here i turn my head i'm like looking for my friend right then he sees my hearing like yeah what the hell man what that's like whoa whoa whoa he's like why do you have cauliflower here yeah that's so funny and his tone changed and he was like oh and i was like i wrestle i do judo you

know yeah guy goes i'm so sorry he's like let me buy you a drink i swear to god so like oh he bought you a drink yeah yeah he bought me a drink he was like it was nuts he's like ramped up you know he's watching usc probably because it must have been it's got to be like 2006 or something okay i see i see that well it's crazy just started people started knowing what cauliflower ear was uh-huh you know what i should do that's my haircut only shave this one side so my ear is visible that's the cut now the other cut you know i and then i'll have arrows pointing to the other side of my head look at it yeah look at the right side it's like whoa whoa you see the arrows here you see pointing to my ear yeah you know what happened that's a move so i'm always jealous of shintaro's cauliflower ears and so one time i don't i have a little bit on my left but it's not barely

noticeable um so one time i was at a bar and i was about to walk out right yeah and then i saw this guy with a bandage on his ear yeah so i'm like oh my god he just drained it i was so sure that he just drained his cauliflower so i i tapped him on the shoulder and i said, hey, did you just drain your cauliflower ears? And he goes, no, I just had skin cancer and it's got skin cancer taken off. So I felt so bad. I don't mess that up. But anyway, yeah.

So girls get it too. Yeah. Just grappler girls though. But from like botched ear piercings and stuff like this what really yeah i know a girl that had it like not that bad oh and then i was like whoa whoa you know and she was like it's like i've seen this before how do these guys hit me up now it's like i got a ear piercing up here oh they felt like i nicked it weirdly yeah and then it's like a weird thing and she hates it and oh that's because all the dudes who pointed out a grappler

she hates grapplers now oh god that's so sad yeah so sad yeah no cauliflower is great it's like it'll get you out of a lot of fights i think is yeah you know if you're in the know yeah you know you know yeah you know yeah it should be a more of a thing when people notice guys it's like uh guys also cauliflower here like every now and then like i've bumped into a guy once uh on the bus uh he had years gnarly years uh and then he saw me and he like recognized me he's like that guy from youtube oh that's cool and he kept looking at me and it was very scary right because it's like scary looking dude like just staring at you wearing sweatpants like a type t right he's like grilling me but i'm like he's gotta like look at he's looking at me in a way where he's like trying to figure who i am out yeah yeah and then i look at him and he's got

gnarly ears so i just go like this to him. I go like this. With a little, yeah. I touch my ears, right? And I look at him, and I point, and he's like, aha, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like pointing at his ear. He's like all smiles. Then my bus stop came out, and he got off. Those are cool interactions.

I want to be in that club, man. I don't think you'll ever be. You don't have the type of ears for it to be that way, I think. Yeah, I could never get it. I don't know.'ll ever be. You don't have the type of ears for it to be that way, I think. Yeah, I could never get it. I don't know. I got a little bit. Maybe if any of you is visiting Detroit, come to, you know, hit me up. We'll go to do judo and just put me in your sickest Keisagatame ever.

Or just punch him in the ear. Wow, that's going to cause a lot of trouble for me it's just for my cold flow years anyway I think we covered a lot about judo and fighting how to you know what's fighting

how judo fits into that cover misconceptions and how we can what we can add to our judo training to be a to be better prepared and also about we also talked about you know the mental side of things you know how we should de-escalate and be attentive and whatnot so uh anything else yeah that's gonna be our next episode physical deformitiesities of grappling. The cauliflower. The forehead bridge.

That's a thing. That's a thing. You know, you're leading with your head. Wrestlers have a lot more of it. You're leading with your head, forehead to forehead. Oh, my God. And all of a sudden, you start developing like this ridge on your forehead. Right?

And then you get the cauliflower here. And then because of the raised testosterone levels, you lose your hair. And then you don't want to be completely bald so you grow goatee and then you get tattoos to posture and show everyone that you do grappling you wear the ultimate grappling makeover i love to make a video about that i have a i have a yeah i have a picture in my head already. You're already on your way there. I'm holding on to my dear life. It's okay. It looks good. My wife's helping me out. She's a dermatologist.

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went to the new york state judo championships over the weekend and then uh you know there's a lot of people who listen to this pocket they're like hey i listen to your podcast amazing thank you so much and i'm like oh wow it's great yeah nice and it'll help your stuff there's tiered guys the guys who watch the youtube right and then there's guys who listen to podcasts like they go deeper i know more about me yeah people who have never seen was like hey how's uh how's your friend peter doing and i'm like that's funny yeah and your daughter i'm like yeah she's healthy you know that's fun yeah i noticed that too because if you just if people just watch your youtube videos they don't know me but then if they start listening to podcasts they start noticing me but

yeah i mean we're that's what we're trying to do and it'll help us make this better you know it'll help us cover the cost of recording and maybe we can get better equipment and stuff anyway so thanks for listening guys and then uh i will see you guys in the next episode