The Shintaro Higashi Show - Leg Grabs Are Back in Judo!

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

After a 14-year absence, certain prestigious tournaments, including the All Japan Open Championship, are experimenting with reintroducing leg grabs. Shintaro and Peter discuss this groundbreaking rule change, potential IJF adoption, and what this means for judo practitioners globally. They also explore how this rule change might attract more wrestlers and Brazilian jiu-jitsu athletes to Judo especially in the U.S., and Shintaro offers insights on how to integrate leg grabs into training. The conversation touches on the future of judo in the U.S., particularly in the lead-up to the LA 2028 Olympics. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:45) Leg Grabs Returning in Competitions (00:03:20) Compromise on Leg Grab Rules (00:06:30) Effects on Judo Spectatorship (00:10:39) Impact on American Judo and Wrestlers (00:13:52) Integrating Leg Grabs into Training (00:21:42) The Future of Judo and Competition (00:24:33) The American Judo Style

these regions where jiu-jitsu is really exploding like korea like japan yeah well and i think japan finally starting to collaborate between jiu-jitsu and judo yeah yes and they're getting treated like heroes but majority of the jiu-jitsu doing world does yeah especially the people who pay the most money to do jiu-jitsu in the 30 to 50 range for gi i prefer you because you're in that range you're an old man i know hello everyone welcome back to the shintaro higashi show with peter you we got to put your name peter you on the logo too everyone's been requesting it i did see that comment but yeah i mean the original idea was that you know he's was Shintaro is the face of the show. And I was just like...

Without you, there is no show. So you gotta do it. Thank you. Let us know in the comments. If you really want it, should we put my name on the logo? Yeah, maybe. But more exciting stuff today.

Probably in the judo Anglosphere, this is by far the most popular controversial topic. It's a monster. Absolute monster. What is it? It's leg grabs. We're not talking about complaining about not having leg grabs. Why BJJ is superior because of the leg grabs.

Or why did they get rid of it in 2010? And you know what? What my favorite thing is? Yeah, what is it? You can do more judo in the BJJ tournament, they say. Yeah, some people say that. BJJ is more like original judo than judo is now. There are a lot of criticisms.

And, you know, it went away in 2010. It's, you know, 24 right now. We're still complaining about it. Yeah. 14 years later but guess what they're bringing it back coming back i actually we don't know a lot yet but some very reputable organizations and tournaments are experimenting with this yeah and it is believed that some of these other organizations are going to follow suit i was actually surprised that like i thought it would

kind of never come back but yeah i think it's seen it sounds like so what's the news is that the judo japanese judo open championship right the all japan open championship all japan open championships always late second half of april every single year this is the one of the toughest tournaments and the most watched tournaments in the entire world yeah open category there's no second half of April every single year. This is the one of the toughest tournaments and the most watched tournaments in the entire world. Yeah. Open category.

There's no weight classes. To show you how difficult it is Ono fought in it and lost second round to a random 90 kilo guy from Japan. I think

I mean it is unbelievable that he even advanced as a 73 kilo person. Yeah. We actually had Gunji yesterday at the dojo who lives in New York now. Yeah. He actually had Gunji yesterday at the dojo. Yeah. He lives in New York now. Yeah.

He qualified for the All Japan twice. Just qualified. And he was like showing us gripping stuff that I'd never seen before. Yeah. We talked about his gripping strategy in one of the episodes. And he's absolutely unbelievable. And I did grip fighting with him yesterday and I was like 50-50. Yeah.

You know? And he got a little bit tired. So I think I feel like I got the best of him. So it's like, all right. I won that. Even though that's not the kind of... Does Kunji listen to this? He might come after you after this. He doesn't speak English, so it's fine.

He doesn't understand it. But yeah, so it's like just the level of the All Japan Championships. It's unbelievable. And then they're bringing back the leg rest. It's not completely, I guess, so you have to have one hand on the upper body. And then you can go for the legs. Which I think is a good compromise. It's a good compromise.

I don't know why the IJF never thought of that. I mean, I'm sure they have. IJF really is very thought out, organized, everything. So they're considering everything, really. They're probably just like, you know what? Let's just not even worry about it. Let just get rid of it all right and uh because they did kind of try that i guess and they just like well there was so much controversy around like refereeing and there's so much gray area but anyway so now you can grab kind of like to like to go knee tap or

kataguruma the old style i guess you got to take a room so there's going to be some spectacular techniques which we'll get into a little bit later but you know why did they do this yeah will the ijf follow is the question i my personal take is i think this is kind of how the ijf is testing the water i think they're going to follow suit yeah but the ijf and all japan are completely unrelated i know but like they actually don't have that much communication oh really oh i thought they would have okay you know more than me about the back i just assumed that they would probably have some kind of communication in the back i mean definitely right because every organization that absolutely linked to the ijf the all japan judo federation and we got the USA Judo is linked to the IJF. IJF is part of the IOC.

So it's this whole chain. So all these, you can't really just make one decision. And then if this was a one-off decision, Japan saying, all right, we're going to allow leg grabs in Japan. Completely unrelated to IJF. It's a huge sort of FU. Yeah, yeah. Undermining the authority of the IJF almost. Yes.

I don't think that they would do something so egregious. Right. And then take themselves out because when the PJU. Yeah. Right. Was the thing, Pan American Judo Union was the thing and they didn't really comply. IJF was like,

all right, fine. We're just going to close it. And then we're going to do PJC. It's going to be a completely new organization. That's going to run all of Pan America. If you don't play game, you're out.

Yeah. So like they could do that. Right. So, and I mean, you could argue that Japan is such a big judo country that IJF can't just like, yeah,

but look at Russia with the sanctions and all this stuff. IJF is like, you know what? Individual neutral athlete. And now they're like, you know what? We don't even like that anymore. You're gonna fight under the ijf banner so now they have the backpatch ijf i see here's an ijf athlete from some region in europe or asia or one of those countries

formerly known as a country that we're not going to talk about right so like the ijf can like be can act that can be tough so yeah they've done a tremendous job with all the things like if you go to judo tv.com who sponsors the show i'm also getting paid by the ijf also to be a commentator so you know i do have some biases and there is some kind of conflict with me talking about this stuff but seriously they do a phenomenal job i don't i don't no you can say whatever you want yeah well i i'll say judo tv did share of a clip uh like a reel on instagram about uh leg reps coming back yes and they also send some video clips to a youtuber judo highlights youtuber oh yeah yeah and you know they

have like licensing this and that and fair right use policies and all this but there's somebody in japan who makes judo highlights for each of the tournaments yeah completely unrelated like they don't get paid from those guys yeah but he has full access to the archives and he can use it and then make videos because he does a very good job with it. So every time Tokyo Grand Slam happens, he cuts highlight reels. Everybody watches. It's a good exposure for the IJF. They don't have to pay this guy. It works, right?

And then the IJF sent him footage. I did watch that video, yeah. Yes. I didn't know that was how it happened. That's pretty cool. And I think it's very unlikely that that guy is going to be making that up. Yeah. how it happened that's pretty cool yeah and i think it's very unlikely that that guy isn't making that up yeah you know so between that and all japan doing their thing and you know with the all japan stuff maybe japan's preparing for it you know who knows right oh like for the next next uh round of like yeah i see just to kind of get a jump start on it yeah so i think it's a real

thing now i see and the rules are you could grab the legs if you have one hand on the upper body you could do it sort of in a defensive maneuver if the guy goes for an inside trip you could grab the leg and lift that's the thing if you enter into an inside trip and you almost finish it you could grab the other leg and finish it things like that you know all these little things to kind of not directly diving into the legs are going to be allowed yeah so i'm so i'm curious i think it's a good direction i think it's a good compromise but you think people who love to complain about judo like rap band will just move the goalposts and say oh you can't do double legs it's not really like motor tagare is not you know like i'm not i mean they might those people might be far very few but yeah i think people are going to be extremely happy with

this rule yeah i think here's my opinion you know when we used to always say the leg grab band and i wasn't really pro or con for it right yeah but like i think uh with the leg grab band there were some advantages people were more upright people were getting bombed more yeah yeah you see that and now when you see people hinged at the waist because they're afraid to stick their leg out for uchimata ochi you're gonna get more hips back yeah more defensive judo and i think there's going to be more shidos now because of that reason right so if you were complaining about the percentages of shidos and penalties deciding matches it's going to be worse and the number of big throws are going to decline so from a spectator standpoint i think it's going to be not as exciting as you would think.

But the off chance that someone gets lifted and yoked with the Teguruma or a massive, massive, like, you know, something like that. People are going to be very excited about the highlight of seeing those kinds of things. things but i have a feeling that the you know the circle in the van diagram the people who complain about shitos complain about like grab band are probably just almost one circle i have a feeling yeah it's gonna all merge the singularity yeah i have a feeling that they are the same group of people so yeah but but you know what's gonna be interesting now the ijf is not gonna care as much about the of course you're gonna care about spectatorship yeah right but they wanted spectators to go up yeah they needed the statistics to go up yeah in terms of like big throws people watching it partially why their judo tv is a big push partially why they brought me in as a non-british

english also to appeal to the english-speaking world yeah all these things that they're doing was for spectatorship yeah because that's all they really cared about because they needed to get from tier three to tier two in the olympic sport yeah well divisions so now that we're tier two since i think i can't remember was like at least 10 years we've been tier 2 athletics. Which means we're not on the chopping block anymore. Yeah, we were. People have to remember, wrestling,

judo, were at real risk to be removed. The Olympics doesn't need judo. They can really just... There are so many other sports they want to get in. Squash is not even in it. If you look at breakdancing, it's tier really just, there are so many other sports they want to get in. Like squash is not even in it, you know? I mean, like if you look at breakdance, it's tier four, right?

Those guys are just experimental. They're not going to bring it back. Tier three, you're always on the chopping block. Now we're tier two. That means more money for the sport. And now they have a little bit more leeway to do what they want, even though the statistics of people getting bombed, it might go down. But this might be a great thing. bomb that might go down yeah no but this might be a great thing you know and obviously they have all these different factors that they're calculating yeah because there's a brazilian jiu-jitsu portion

of the world now that's extremely growing fast like yeah accelerated pace and now the wrestling also yeah so you know even like you get us like jiu-jitsu is blown up wrestling is even doing even better now because the nil the name image, image, and likeness. So college athletes get $100,000, $200,000. So now if we don't do something, Judo is going to be suffering, especially in the United States. Globally, I think we're fine. But in these regions where Jiu-Jitsu is really exploding, like Korea, like Japan, I think Japan is finally starting to collaborate between Jiu-Jitsu and Judo.

You see all these Olympians going to local BJJ gyms and training. Yes. They're getting treated like heroes. They're tapping in. The Jiu-Jitsu squad in Japan is tapping into a market untouched by the Japanese

Judo Federation. You do Judo since you're a kid you go through the university system you become a professional and you're done by 30 yeah always right you retire even if you're in a professional corporate environment where you're like a professional athlete corporation sponsor you i was talking to gunji about it actually he was on the best corporate team asahi kase with oh no oh shit okay he gets a full salary yeah as an employee of the company and you get a judo salary so you get double the salary oh wow and performance bonuses if you win so essentially you're freaking rich yeah and there's 20 slots on the team that's it new guy comes in old guy get weakest guy gets

kicked off it's savage yeah but there's corporations like this yeah you know after that's done that's it yeah no more judo dude you're too old you're too banged up you're gonna get injured people don't do it but jujitsu 30 and above thrives yeah because uh you know it's they're they're tapping into that like although hobbyist uh so you have a million people doing jiu-jitsu from 30 to 50 who grab legs and who needs to do stand up for jiu-jitsu yeah if they go to judo and say no leg grabs that skill that they develop in judo not so useful yeah for them to go to their masters worlds or masters competition in the blue belt 45 to 50 it's not useful yeah but with leg grabs in judo yeah now it's even more valuable for jiu jitsu guys to do it and then

people argue all no gis the the cool new thing but majority of the jiu jjitsu guys to do it. And then people argue, oh, no gi is the cool new thing. But majority of the jiu-jitsu doing world does gi. Gi, yeah. Especially the people who pay the most money to do jiu-jitsu in the 30 to 50 range prefer gi. I prefer gi. Because you're in that range. You're an old man. I know.

As am I. Because it slows the game down yeah it's like it you know it's safer it's not as slippery yeah step in a puddle then you don't tear your acl yeah right there's much more rules like there's things about it that appeal it's not as disgusting yeah so now this can bring more jujitsu people an untapped market no one starts judo in 30s into judo right very small percentage of people

start judo in their 30s very very very small percentage of people I feel like it sounds like I have a feeling that the IGF probably has done their own research and then done the market research and they're like,

okay, yeah, we need to kind of tap into this market. And what's the one way. And honestly, it's really, I think this compromise of like one hand on the upper body and then the one, you know,

then you can grab the leg. I think that's a good compromise. And especially because more to Gary was, has with,ortegari, with the gi on, double leg, it's always been like a Hail Mary move anyway because it's pretty easy to defend if you're not caught off guard. And the range is off. Because if you're close enough to shoot and touch the person like you are in wrestling, they're close enough to grab your gi, which means you can't really just post and take the hand off. You can't just do a throw-by.

You can't elbow pass because he's grabbing onto your gi. The only thing you could really do is a blast double, kind of like what the Mongolian did to Keiji Suzuki in the Olympics. But still, the range is off. You're shooting from much further away because if you're within gripping distance, you're just going to get tied up. Yeah. This is a great chance

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Here's the most valuable information that people listen to the podcast for, really. And the million-dollar thing is, all right, most people are going to start teaching leg grabs that they don't really know, right? Because if you competed under this rule set, it was 15 years ago at the tail end of it. Yeah. I don't even remember. I used to do Teguroba a lot, but I forgot. Forgot.

So it's like, what are the entries? What are the positions? Getting into this leg entangled Uchimata position to finish with a lifting versus throwing. All these different things. New skill. Yeah. So how are these people going to teach it?

Yeah. There's definitely information asymmetry from the people who actually know this stuff from their competitive days versus someone who's 30 years old now teaching at a dojo didn't really compete on this rule set at all right and then if they wrestle they say oh i have an advantage no you don't because you never really wrestled in a gi yeah you're doing judo in a gi and you're doing wrestling with no gi yeah so how to connect these things as a teacher as a dojo owner and this is the number one thing because all of a sudden now you're shooting legs now this is a move that move it's too compartmentalized it's de-segmented it's not going to work for you yeah stop you're grip fighting you

have one hand on you change levels and touch the leg and then you go ipon sanagi back to gripping so you're incorporating in your gripping level change touching the leg level change touch the leg no one finish it no one try it just incorporate that okay and then just go back to doing your regular stand-up judo is the first thing i mean this is second yeah yeah go ahead second thing yeah second thing enter et cetera, et cetera. And if you can't finish an Ochi running it, reach out and grab a leg. Yeah. Drop Seinagi, running, running, running. Can't finish it, try to pick an ankle.

All right? That's the second sort of drill that you can incorporate to now immediately start putting it in. And then obviously the third is waiting for them to go Ochi, Uchimata, reaching in between and lifting. So get practicing this lifting thing. So that's three drills right there. Completely not what you would think people would do, which is like, all right, here's how you do a leg pick.

I grab here. I go like this. I grab the leg. Go try it. That's not going to work. If your sensei does that just send them this video so there's three drills to already integrate into the judo system that you already do you probably grip fight change levels touch the leg nothing changes right you're still grip fighting

for a dominant position yeah right second one you already do ochi inside trip trying to finish ah most of you guys can't finish it properly, but now you could use your other hand to assist with the finish. Easy transition, right? Third, someone goes uchimata, uchi entry, you grab it. Now you learn that position from there, right? And then you learn direct attacks. But only in this sequence

that's the million dollar thing why give that away for free not that many people are listening well I think that's what you just described is why that conspiracy theory of like oh

IGF got rid of leg wraps because Japanese judokas were getting beaten by Europeans doing leg wraps. Because it doesn't work like that. Just because you can do leg wraps, it's not like a panacea where you can defeat anyone. But it is in their best interest to have champions from all over the world yeah yeah you look at like keldy arova from uzbekistan uh wins an olympic medal or gold medal and now all of a sudden that sport skyrockets at uzbekistan and now all of a sudden you have all these people doing it paying their dues watching subscribing to judo tv you know they say like one of the biggest

markets for judo tv like subscriber wise in terms of revenue is georgia oh my god yeah when there's a georgia language channel right like that you can listen to all the commentaries in georgia yeah yeah yeah they have their own dedicated commentary team from georgia yeah it's amazing you know so it's like r. Those guys love to consume this stuff. So it's in their best interest to really have a diverse group of champions. And if Japan's winning everything, they don't

like that. I don't like that. You can't look at Taekwondo for that problem. For a while only Korean people were dominating. And then the IGF doesn't like that, obviously. And you know what?

Maybe this gives Americans a shot. They really care about the American market because think about... It's such a big market. Baseball, multi-billion dollar industries in sports here. Right here on the soil of the united states

how come judo so minor yeah yeah it's a popular obviously there's some many issues administrative usa judo who's on the board which we've covered extensively the past few weeks yeah right yeah you guys voted those guys in yeah i didn't vote that's why we have what we have yeah millions of dollars being funneled out of usa judo yeah for what yeah you know anyway that's not the thing and that's a part of it and then not having enough athletes doing the sport membership base is low we're losing guys to jujitsu losing guys to wrestling so it's not far with this rule change it's not far-fetched to think that all the good what first of all like it's not like so we're one of the reasons that we're losing all of this phenomenal natural

athletes other sports right like we talked about this judo is competing it's we're not just competing with bjj we're competing with football, baseball, basketball, golf, whatever. All these phenomenal athletes we have are playing other sports. But with this, maybe the pool is bigger. Maybe someone who wrestled in Iowa tries on a gi, and then he developed, he or she develops a new system around leg reps and then has really good success.

And then we can bring back some Olympic medals in Judo. Let me tell you something, man. You give me a top level division one wrestler. Yeah. Who's coachable, who's fit, who's big.

Right. And you put them in my dojo and I teach them just basic gripping and leg grabs and hard nawaza, forget it, they could win. The Olympic trials. Yeah, Olympic trials easy. They go out there and win. You know, you give me four years with that kid, you know? So if you're listening and you're here.

You wanna be on the Olympian? Yeah. I mean, you still have to pay the dues and pay me the private skills. I'm not doing nothing for free. But you know, you get the point, you know? So now it's a much closer leap into judo right and there's a lot of wrestlers in the united states phenomenal everything that they're doing right now ijf the last few years we have to blow it

out of the water for la 2028. we just have to yeah usa judo ijf all eyes are on the u.s you know and that's partially why i'm on that team the commentary team yeah you know yeah it's a yeah it's a massive uh it should work all together you know we as a community have to come together band together you know not take millions out of usa judo but you know we got to keep money in usa judo and then do our part do our part and so now partially share this video that portion specifically about how to integrate leg grabs into your gym i've listed three ways if you're just teaching direct leg grabs here's a kind of good one with the leg grab ah you're doing a disservice to the sport you know it starts with the coaches it starts with teaching it starts with your gym and hopefully now with this new rule change more jujitsu guys get funneled into your judo program don't be a pretentious douchebag

and say no judo's like this judo's like that don't be that guy welcome them warmly use these drills that i've just mentioned and bring them into the sport yeah make it a warm environment so then they want to stay make it a fun thing right teach them what they want to learn don't do stuff like sell them on the olympic dream don't don't be that guy or gal doing randui that says oh that's a shiro you touched my leg no one cares let's just grapple and have fun if you make it a fun environment people will stay right you don't need drew to do churn analysis to forget i mean you do you do yeah yeah we need you we need you to do churn analysis but if he did the churn analysis, show that, hey.

It'll show a different reason, right? Yeah. Your guys are leaving after three weeks because you suck as a teacher. Yeah. You got to keep them. Yeah. This is how you do it, you know? Yeah.

Man. What an opportunity. Leg grabs, judo, wrestling, BJJ. There is this grappling singularity coming together i'm telling you to create this one one one art that will rule them all let's do it let's do it you know i'm more than happy to share like all right wrestling has freestyle greco collegiate yeah freestyle greco scholastic yeah judo should have that too right well maybe judo be the one thing that ties it all together submissions takedowns leg grabs throws epong a cultural spiritual side right a

code of ethics more of a morality all this everything can we be that you know and that's really my biggest thing i think we can be yeah right can you imagine that all of a sudden they're like all right knee bars are allowed in judo oh my god i don't know how to tell i i have to practice a lot then yeah like you know and then you watch this stuff and then it's exciting and they're just we 5x the global population of judo because of this. There's 50 million people doing judo right now. We're number one by far. 50 million.

In grappling, yeah. And if you look at national governing bodies, NGBs, judo's number one in grappling. Blows wrestling away almost by 100%. Can you believe this? In the U.S.?

No, in the world. In the world. U.S. were last. Yeah, yeah. U.S., they confuse us with karate. I'm not talking about Americans. Talking about the globe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And now we have that 50 million base with the number one quantity of NGBs. And now all the jiu-jitsu guys are now all the jujitsu guys are coming in all the wrestler guys are coming in because they have this thing of wow judo is the thing right and then you watch it and no one's beating their chest no one's saying f u f that getting into fights on the mat because the way the ijf is enforcing yeah the code, the ethics. And of course, yeah, the IJF and their moral high ground. But it becomes this thing that's just more than sport.

It's cultural. It makes you a better human being, a better citizen. It's respectful. It's all the things also that Kano preached from an educational standpoint. And now we're not playing

the same game. We're above it. We transcend it. And that's, I think, think where igf wants to go and what an opportunity to do it in la 2028 where the world can see and you know how each country has its own style yeah of judo koreans do certain things you russians do certain things. Russians do certain things. Georgians, obviously. We could have our own style. Maybe this BJJ wrestling pipeline into, I mean, scholastic wrestling,

folk style wrestling is our folk style. Yeah, it's like our style, American style. Maybe we can. I'll tell you what am I. You know this guy, Shannon. He was before your time. I know, I know. Yeah, but Shannon Sofield.

He wrestled Division I, coached Division I wrestling. He wrestled for Ryder. He did Jiu-Jitsu. He's a black belt in BJJ. Never lost for like 40 matches straight. Yeah. In the Masters of BJJ.

Destroyed everyone and also a Judo black belt underneath me. Yeah. He has a style of Jo that is perfect if he's listening i'm sure he is he's probably like 50 now but he should make a comeback because he has the most integrated style yeah the way he used to wrestle with the leg grabs and the kind of grooms and the gripping and now he has neewaz also forget it like that's the guy that everyone should emulate their grappling after. Shannon Sofield. That's the American style, maybe.

That could be the new American style of judo. Yeah. Right? Forget this 10,000 USA judo members. Let's get a million. Yeah. Everyone could follow that blueprint. Shannon could be flying all over the country doing seminars,

teaching his system. That's going to be effective, right? Judo, wrestling, BJJ. Division I, judo black belt, jiu-jitsu black belt. Most importantly, that he's a judo black belt underneath me. That's the way. And he's also a CrossFit champion. He's fit.

Oh, my God. He's a superstar, this guy. But, like, can we get that guy to be sort of the shining example of what American judo looks like and then just destroy it in L.A.? Yeah. In four years. I think it's definitely doable. doable it's not gonna be easy but i mean again like i think this like kind of gatekeeping of i see a lot more in uh i've trained in japan and korea and america mostly in america but

the american judo gyms are most like elitist in some sense like they they want to like they're most purest out of all and i don't think we i think we need to abandon the attitude and then this is our style american judo style like wrestling and maybe bjj sprinkle in yeah who cares these uh arrogant judo teachers who are like the jigo tie and stand the posture up and then get in the legs and the taiyatoshi's yeah it's like no let these guys explore and find their own path yeah i never enforced a judo style in my gym yeah except you know guys who spam taiyatoshi yeah those guys are the only it? Right, exactly. But still, it's like this whole thing, man. This is what a shot for the U.S. to have at L.A.

And this is the time for all of us to really unite and push forward. You know? That would be cool if after this episode goes on, suddenly you get like D2, D1 wrestlers coming into your gym. It's like, I want to go to the Olympics. I mean, we do have guys that come in that2 d1 wrestlers coming into your gym as i i want to go to the olympics i mean we do have guys that come in that are d1 rest and we haven't had that many wrestlers actually but we had a columbia wrestling team like four of those guys came and worked out they were animals dude yeah obviously two of them were judo black belts already uh but like the

university wrestling wrestlers oh yeah all american last year yeah also judo black boat oh man yeah that guy's an animal you know get get that guy he has a better shot making a judo olympic team for the us than wrestling yeah yeah 100 especially now even more than ever so there's gonna be it's gonna be exciting know, I can't wait to see it. And you know, if you would like me to fly to your gym to do a seminar, it's leg grabs, leg grabs seminar.

So easy for me to teach this stuff. I wrestled in college also. Yeah. Yep. You have the American style. I have the American style. Yes, I do.

And I'm a jujitsu black belt. Oh, yeah. Maybe you should just go for the Olympics. You know, every day I think about it, it's a sickness, you know, and you're going to be kind of real with myself. Hey, you're 40. Hey, you have all these things going on. You have multiple businesses.

You have no time. And you're probably not that great of an athlete as you think you are it's like the thing i tell myself every day like well yeah when reality hits up but honestly this is i think we have a golden duck you know sitting on our lap we just gotta make sure to take care of it and seize the opportunity yeah i mean a golden goose that lays i mean golden goose doctor goose whatever they all lay eggs it's a goose peter don't don't have the american style here anyway all right so i think that's it i think uh yeah it's an exciting time you know tell us what you think in the comments we'd love to hear you sponsor

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you could also reach out to me for seminars I'm sponsor us that'll greatly help us and you could also reach out to me for seminars i'm doing a lot of that these days yeah uh you know like i said it's three thousand dollars for the session airfare hotel that kind of stuff i'll teach leg grabs i'll teach you guys these things and you guys will hear me rant in person about it i always cater the seminar to your gym. So watch everyone work out first. I'll take questions and I'll differentiate the instruction for what your need is, whether it's BJJ or Nogi or Judo Leg Grabs Now. Very open to it.

Reach out to me. Don't hesitate. And thank you. We got to put Peter's name. He's a seminar. It's like boutique, you know, not like package boutique tailored just for you.

All right. Yep. Thanks for listening guys. And we'll see you guys in the next episode. Thank you.