The Shintaro Higashi Show - New York Debrief
Episode Date: July 4, 2022Peter visited New York City for 10 days a couple of weeks ago! His trip was filled with friends and family time and, of course, Judo. In this episode, Peter and Shintaro talk about Peter's trip to NYC..., especially the Judo training sessions at KBI, Peter's old dojo. Please support us on Patreon if you can: https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!
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Hello, welcome back to the Shintaro Higashi Show with Peter Yu.
Today, we're going to do a debriefing of Peter coming to New York.
Yeah, that's right.
I spent, what, how many days?
10 days?
10 days!
Yeah, huge.
Two weekends in New York.
And Shintaro was generous enough to put me up in his Manhattan apartment,
two streets from his dojo.
Yeah.
So,
it was kind of
a workcation situation.
So,
I would just work
during the day
and then hang out
with Shintaro
and my other friends
at night
and kind of
really,
like,
kind of doing
what I used to do,
I guess.
Yeah,
you relived your youth
a little bit.
Yeah.
You did.
You worked,
went to judo,
you hung out. That's it. Work, jud yeah you did you worked went to judo you hung
out that's it work judo hang out work hang out that's what life is about i know i yeah people
are listening now like yeah work judo hang out work judo hang out yeah that's right that's the
dream right yeah we're joking for a second we're like oh look at us being grappling bums back in
you know like back in the day i know it was great right we did the like a
lunch session with uh brian glick you know i i roll with him he's a phenomenal guy yeah
really good at judo too i was surprised actually yeah he's good everywhere he's just like a great
grappler period you know and after that we came home and after lunch and then i was doing some
work and shintaro just passed out in that
couch in the back oh yeah i was taking a nap and then we went back to judo after that right yeah
the wednesday is a special day because it's like usually you know like i'll go brian glick comes
down we'll do jujitsu for like two or three hours right and then i come back here i'll do like work
but you were doing work on my computer, on my workstation here.
And then I usually go back to judo at night, so it's like an all-day grappling affair.
But Peter was cranking out code, and I'm just snoozing.
Every time I woke up, he's freaking typing away.
I'm like, oh, man, this guy's working.
Yeah.
I was actually very productive that day, too.
I wrote a couple of emails from the couch, too, though.
Nice, nice.
The grappling couch.
Oh my God.
No, it was great, man.
Aside from all the hangout we did in the weekends and stuff,
you were able to come to all the judo practices.
That was amazing.
Right.
I tried to make it all.
I couldn't make it to the Saturday morning one.
Yeah.
It's too hungover. Yeah. Besides that make it to the Saturday morning one. Yeah. It's too long over.
Yeah.
Besides that Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I did.
Yeah.
So, I mean, the purpose was to kind of like,
so the past two years have been very tough for me with the school and all.
And then I was kind of, I wanted to take uh take that as a reset like kind of like oh
relive what i used to do and hang out with people i used to and then you know come back stronger you
know and yeah i think i did that and so let and how what should we talk about let's should we
talk about judo first?
I mean, no.
We'll talk about the trip.
Obviously, we kind of touched on it.
But sometimes you need that reset.
You were living the life back in the day.
Software engineer, high-paying job in New York City,
working all the time, doing judo all the time.
And then you were living that life. And you just wanted to reclaim that time, that era.
So you were able to do that.
And then while you were here,
you were able to throw down with all the guys who were training here that you used to train right who
kept training you know of course you did too but in a different way you know you're not doing judo
four days a week like you used to no right you're not lifting all the time you're not doing soccer
twice a week you're not doing your cardio you know it's a different type right so how did you feel coming back in and grappling
with some of our guys it was it was great because um i i mentioned in my solo episode there's not
much judo in michigan um it was just the fact that i could just throw down yeah stand up you
know that was great like even at the bjj school the problem with this they even though they start standing up the game
is quite limited because i you know they don't they can just go down you know it's not the focus
is on the ground yeah exactly they go to the ground you know you don't spend that much time
on your feet even if it starts on your feet you go down to the ground you stay on the ground
right and judo because of space constraints mostly right when we're training stand up we stand up, we're training ground, we're training ground because we don't want people rolling on the floor and then someone getting thrown on top of that person. Right. It's too dangerous. Yeah. And because stand up is sort of the main focus of judo, we spend 70, 80 percent of the time on our feet. So you dedicate a lot more time to the stand up game. Right so there's no right no right of their gym really
you know yeah i mean yeah exactly just the setup but you know what i what i was missing from bjj
the bjj gym was this layers of you know kind of like so it it's the the at the bjj gym on i get
this for neva's i like these layers and layers and layers of distraction
and attack and feints and all on the ground.
But I don't get that on the stand-up side.
But when I went back, it was really fun.
Layers and layers and layers, those exist in Tachiwaza too.
Yeah, for sure.
Because there's
skilled opposition
and then unskilled opposition.
If you're fighting
someone on the street
and you want to
take them down
with an Osorigari,
you're not going to
fake a Satsurika Bashi
and then look for a reaction
because they're not
going to react.
So generally,
if you're facing
an unskilled opponent,
you're just going to
immediately start
blasting through
because you're not
going to have
a very complicated
defensive system
or a counter attack
system so generally the first thing you go
for first and fast from good position generally
just works. Right, exactly.
So like in Jujutsu that's the case too
and even if you don't throw them if they feel threatened
they can just go down and then transition to
Niwaza which is ultimately their goal
is to go to the ground.
So that must have been very nice
to feel that again.
So that was good and then also i uh not only was i able not only did i go with um you know my previous training partners like
here and eugene george yeah you know greg who else was there you know everyone there
but i got to go with the new people like gianni yeah you know uh
ryu um ryu's cousin was there who else is new now i guess gianni is the top dog in the new people
yeah no gianni is probably one of the better guys in the gym now you know and he grew up doing judo
it's like he's not a homegrown guy but he's always been local in new york usually he just
took third at the open division of nationals yeah so he's legit amazing he's a black belt he's a regular
now so that's great we love having that you know you got to work out with him yeah yeah what's
interesting was like you going with the guys who you used to go with uh and then the question was
were you guys going to revert back to the old patterns of redori right right that was interesting you
encountering people who you've never encountered probably like a high level brown belt that you've
never fought before right and then seeing how they would fare we even had a guest you know right right
right brown belt guest that was very tough he's a good brown belt straight up yeah he came you know
like on paul with all our our brown belts right so he's a good brown belt. Yeah, but he's never been exposed to your style.
So, you know, you did really well against that guy.
Yeah, I think it was a style mismatch, I think.
Yeah, a style mismatch.
And then, you know, if you have somebody
that doesn't drop and turn to the left as a righty,
that's a huge thing.
And you don't only just drop and turn to the left as a righty.
You have two or three lines of attack after right drop on senagi fake
upon senagi or sotogari and then you could go back to the drop senagi so you have a lot
of different right yeah so which is great and then most of these guys never been exposed
to it but you know he and those guys they all know yeah i i he and i couldn't I couldn't throw Hyun this time.
He changes up his game.
This was interesting.
He really worked on his one-handed judo.
And he grabs lefty, but I know he's righty.
So I had to reach for his right shoulder, right side.
But I couldn't reach it.
That was a very interesting game. and I've never seen that,
and it was very effective.
I couldn't throw him.
I couldn't even get a hold of that guy. Dude, it's really great for me to see too, man,
because I've known him for over a decade now at the gym.
He is a home-grown guy.
He's been at my dojo forever.
He had a long plateau of like six years, five- or six-year plateau
where he was doing the same stuff over and over.
And, you know, no matter how I tried to break him out of it, he never really did it.
But in the last three years, he completely like added new stuff, like lots of different new tricks.
You know, like stylistically, he's just much more diverse.
And, you know, it's great to see you come back because it's so easy for you guys to fall back into your old patterns.
And you guys know each other's judo from back in the yeah yeah and it's interesting because your judo didn't change much
no mine mine didn't really change much yeah so you know it was really nice to be able to see
he and like how he has progressed the last two or three years and then you know there's gonna be a
youtube video of you getting thrown by him i think i it's already on there no i saw it i mean he got me he
got me completely got me because i there was a thing he beat me at the grip fighting game yeah
i couldn't get a hold of him so greg did an analysis yeah you know greg one of our brown
so if you guys are listening you can go to my youtube channel and see peter get thrown by he
in with a drop kata gruma yeah there's a reason why he could he he grabs left
but wouldn't let him he i know that he's a writer so he was i know he was gonna he's gonna turn
right right side and you were super confident it was it was gonna be ipan senagi or kochigari
right i didn't i haven't seen his kata gruma before and also before he used to do a korean
senagi from there too which he got pretty good at and then they took it out.
And then we were like, you know what?
It's too dangerous to do in the dojo anyway.
Let's stay away from it.
So like imagine if he had from that one position,
Ippon Seinagi, Ko Uchigari, Korean Seinagi,
and that drop Kataguruma all off of that one grip
and you can put two hands on.
That's a huge thing.
Yeah.
So yeah, that was really nice to see from me too.
Like I was like watching it.
I was loving it, you know?
So, and then now that they've really gave me something to work on.
I mean, this is what it is.
I mean, now I have a new problem in judo.
Like how am I going to handle someone like Hyun?
Like I had to come up with a response.
Yeah, you're really sounding like a software engineer.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what i really liked and then yeah another thing so on the flip side
i also well not another person i was really i had a lot of fun with brian is brian glick and
he um we did an amazing standard round and i he taught me. So I had some problems I was working on in Newaza.
And I asked him some questions and he gave me good answers to me.
So one was coriander path.
Coriander path.
I thought it was coriander.
What, toriando?
It's toriando path.
It's like a bullfighter
pass but i thought it was a coriander and he kept saying coriander pass and i mean usually goes up
peter that that's a spice spice that's not a jiu-jitsu pass but it's a spice i knew i thought
it was a weird name why is it korean it is it's definitely not coriander bro but yeah uh here's
another one that you know people always get confused.
They hear knee on belly, and then they hear knee on belly.
Knee on belly.
N-E-O-N, like knee on yellow.
Exactly.
I mean, I've heard many people make that mistake before.
Yeah, it's one of those situations.
But Brian gave me a pointer for that.
What was the pointer?
So, in coriander pass, in gi, I'll grab the knees right yeah, but then I can't do that
Then what that's one of my best passes, but I can't do that in doggy
So I asked like how do I do it in no gi and he said oh?
One hand on the knee and the far hand on their hip and then you can kind of do the same thing
So I mean it's kind of the same thing yeah yeah so he yeah he kind of gave me i mean there's more details where you have to
kind of keep the distance as far as you can and then kind of slowly it's not really he doesn't
more he doesn't really rely on his speed he really relies on you know his leverage and the body uh position and all which is yeah
what is supposed to be yeah so that was his pointer and then the other one was uh i had trouble
when i was when i would do my body lock path which is a new path i've been working on because of the nogi situation and i'll get swept like while i'm clearing the leg yeah and he said it's
because i am too low on the body like i have to climb up further up when i when i try to clean
clear out my leg yeah so i'm gonna start working on that more um so yeah things like that and it was and and everyone i went with like i had
i learned a lot and i trained a lot so that was a good and we also hung out a lot yeah after judo
yeah like the old days you know we went to our favorite spot our old favorite spot sun chan
yeah that's a good spot.
Yeah.
Nice, man.
Dude,
that's kind of the best thing about training against
people who are skilled,
right?
You get to kind of like
find new information.
It's kind of like
collecting data, right?
Collecting information.
Not just about your opposition,
but about your own judo.
And this is the thing.
People are always like,
what am I doing wrong?
There's a question
that I get all the time
when they're trying to
improve judo. But it's like, it's not what are you doing wrong specifically. are always like, what am I doing wrong? There's a question that I get all the time when they're trying to improve judo.
But it's like it's not what are you doing wrong specifically.
It's like what is your opposition doing to you really matters because there's two people that are doing this thing.
And people always feel, what am I doing wrong?
What am I doing wrong?
It's like you're not – yes, you're doing certain things wrong and there's certain like systematic errors that you're kind of creating repeatedly.
But a lot of it is the opposition.
Is he smart enough to exploit those things? Is he forcing some of these errors, right? A lot of this
stuff kind of matters. So when you come in and then you have a week full of judo, now you're
like exposed to the he and his new style. How do you not get caught with that drop kataguruma?
Yeah.
You know, because the one thing that makes it really unique is that his hand position,
he catches the sleeve as he goes down.
Right, right. So if he just went for it without catching the sleeve you could easily base your arm out
because you could pull your shoulders back yeah so it's like how is he catching that sleeve is
he being slick about it if you're aware about it then could you potentially defend it by just
pulling the hand back so he can't catch that sleeve then posting up right because if you're
oh shoot he's dropping let me go post my arm It's already caught because he's catching it on the way down. Oh shoot. He's about to drop and you retract your hand really quick
He doesn't catch it and then he's dropping and then you could base out with your hand and then move your center of gravity away
So like things like that, you know, it's not just like how do I defend that job kata gruma? It's not that it's how
Right. What makes he ins Scott a groomer so dangerous and
then how do I solve that specific problem and can I repeat it right and
then what's his next level up from there is he able to hide catching that sleeve
if you learn how to retract your arm there yeah you know and then now it
becomes a matter of like being exposed to this and drilling this you know
those are the that's the
layers i was i was kind of touching on earlier like and this is the thing if you don't see it
again and then you come back and train let's say three months from now he's going to refine it a
little bit more given that these other guys right stop getting caught by but no one really figured
it out yet he didn't catches everybody with this everybody yeah i noticed that yeah he catches most people with it now so but if he relies on it and just sits on his
laurels and say hey i could just throw anybody with this and then doesn't evolve it yeah right
so he too has to be thinking himself like hey what are ways that can this be shut down like
why wouldn't this potentially work yeah and then you kind of build on each other and then it becomes better and better you know
yeah I think that's why I mean it kind of goes
back to like the
importance of having
good gym mates
I guess dojo mates
that push each other
yeah I mean yeah you can say
that oh the easy solution would be like oh let's
go visit another gym but you know
that can't be a regular thing, really.
Yeah.
But it's nice, man.
You know, because notice, like, when you came in, majority of your rounds were people who were unfamiliar.
Yeah.
I try to go with the people who haven't gone before.
And then, so there's a lot going on there, too, man.
It's like you could just come in here and try to figure everybody out and adjust to
you,
but you have a very,
very robust attacking system.
So you said,
you know what?
Forget it.
I'm going to grip fight hard.
If I'm dominant,
right.
I'm just going to freaking blast these techniques.
Yeah.
And then if the guy strips away and then,
you know,
I'm going to go left immediately.
Right.
Cause it's like,
Hey,
grip fight,
right.
Grip fight,
right.
They strip away their thing.
Now you go left side,
weak side attack,
weak side attack.
You have a system on that side.
If you get out gripped, same ordeal side attack. You have a system on that side. If you get outgripped, same ordeal.
You have an outgripped system.
Now you have immediate attacking stuff where you're in an inferior position.
So you just went in and then started your system up, revving it.
And then the people who did well later down the line in the week were people who were able to adapt and see, oh.
Then they're not going to get caught with the drop left anymore.
Then they're not going to get caught with that back step Uchimata anymore because they're
familiar with the timing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was really cool to see too, you know, and you can't just go to a gym and do this
all the time, but it's nice to recognize some of these things.
So you can kind of like, you know, recreate some of these things.
And, you know, there's different skills being acquired here.
Yeah.
So really cool.
One thing is, I wish I could go Tachi Waza with you.
We did Ne Waza.
Yeah.
But, yeah, you were injured.
Yeah, but, you know, I did Vendori for the first time.
Yeah, how did that go?
When was it?
On Monday.
I was very scared.
But it was six weeks after my MCL tear
so you know
I nursed it
I nursed it
you know I did the right thing
all my PT
everything
I slowly titrated
Nuwaza into it
with people that I trust
and now I was like
I'm ready
and I went with a bunch
of yellow belts
and a bunch of green belts
and I protected it
but I was comfortable with it
but you know like
there's some guys
in the room that I'm like,
I'm not going with him, I'm not going with him.
If I take a photo from that guy, my knee is done again.
So I'm working.
I'm sorry I couldn't work out with you, but, you know.
No, it's okay.
It's okay.
We saw each other.
Come in two months and I'll work out with you.
Yeah, we'll do that.
I'll have to come visit again.
Or maybe you'll come visit here next time.
You're pretty popular too.
Yeah.
Famous here.
You know what I love seeing also?
What?
When we all went to the pool.
Oh, yeah.
Went to Traverse Island and George brought a baseball and a pair of gloves.
So he's like, yo, let's have a catch.
Yeah.
Right?
I haven't done...
We're all saying
we we hadn't done that in so long right like i mean if you don't play baseball who has a yeah
nobody right i mean it's like when was i haven't thrown a baseball like that in decades almost
you know but it was really cool to see you know and i know eugene made a joke about it like oh
you could clearly tell the people who had fathers but it's like you know
george played baseball yeah he's a great athlete and then some of them us never played baseball
like i've never played baseball and then seeing everybody throw the ball you can kind of see
yeah their athleticism some people just have a natural ability to throw the ball
you know and like just energy transference how the body moves together mechanically Yeah, their athleticism. Some people just have a natural ability to throw the ball.
You know, and like just energy transference,
how the body moves together mechanically.
I love that.
You always, whenever you explain the mechanics of a judo throw,
you always bring up throwing a ball.
I mean, that's the most intuitive thing to understand.
Yeah. If you're swinging through and if you're driving with your legs and core,
all that stuff is very relatable because everyone has thrown something.
Right.
So, you know, that's one thing about –
so as I was doing – as I've been doing judo,
I've learned more about the body mechanics,
like the proper way to really transfer power from your core
into the extremities for your action, right? I mean, that's what judo is. And because of that,
when I'm throwing the ball, I noticed that, oh, I should do it more this way, you know, like
move the core first, and then the arms kind of fl flex from the behind, right? Yeah.
And I also went golfing, like, went to the golf range with my brother David.
Yeah. And I realized that even golf is the same.
Yeah.
It's all about the kinetic chain, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
Right?
It goes, like, feet, core, hands, bang.
Right?
Yeah.
Same thing with judo, right?
It's like, you know, it's like you could, I always say hands first, hands first. But really, like, you can't pull if you're up in the air, right? Yeah. Same thing with judo, right? It's like, you know, it's like you could,
I always say hands first, hands first.
But really, like, you can't pull if you're up in the air, right?
Right, right, right. So you have no contact with the ground.
So it's a kinetic chain of, like, planting your foot,
driving away from the person, yanking it, transferring it,
and then keeping a posture.
And it's kind of like golf.
It's kind of like baseball.
It's kind of like basketball, soccer, just energy transfer.
It's what it really is.
You're just transferring the energy to a human.
So I try to, whenever, before I realized this,
whenever a beginner would ask me, like, oh, how do you stay loose and all,
I just couldn't verbalize it.
But now I kind of, I'm getting a better idea.
I'm noticing that commonality more.
Yeah, no, it's all about the athletic mind and athletic ability.
You could see certain people who are phenomenal athletes,
who are coordinated, who are capable,
and then they transfer that skill set to judo,
and they immediately take off.
But then for some people, it's a mental thing.
Because they can't
mentally overcome the barrier of like getting close enough or going for stuff and taking risk
because they're you know taking a risk the failure rate is you know you get punishment so high right
you get bombed on your head you know yeah and some people who aren't great athletes but understand
this sort of a thing and they have a great mentality for it they have an attacking mind
you know they can kind of overcome a lot of these,
I don't want to say disabilities,
but everyone starts from a different place.
It was really nice to see that too.
I noticed something about myself that was like
that transferred from judo directly over to throwing the ball.
What was it?
You know when George would whip the baseball at me?
If it's in this region,
I could coordinate my hand to the ball really good.
But if he throws like a fly,
like a really high up,
and if I have to run,
it's like knowing how far to go to coordinate my hand.
Oh, usually it goes over, yeah.
Yeah, or it's like,
oh, this is going to come right at me,
and then I can't really gauge.
Maybe it's like a freaking distance.
I don't know.
But if it's within this region,
I'm pretty good. So it's like just being used to i don't know but like if it's in within this region i could i'm pretty good so it's like right just you know being used to like hands coming at my head region
here right right upper body region you know but if it's like a ground ball or something it's like
it's a little bit harder it's ground ball and then the fly ball yeah fly ball is tough because it's
like yeah how fast do i have to run to catch up to the ball to be underneath it, you know, when the ball gets there?
And it's like for me, it's like I don't freaking know.
And then so I'm like running, running, you know, and then whoops,
you know, it's like about to hit me in the back of the head.
I know.
Like I'm running like, oh, I should get there in time.
And then it's like when the ball is like right there, it's like, oh, shoot,
it's freaking 20 feet away from me.
It's like what am I doing?
I look like a, you know.
I mean, that happened to me too.
It's actually pretty hard to catch the ball with the gloves like that.
Here though, I got it.
I'm telling you, here it's like bang, bang, bang.
But you're used to it.
You're used to gauging everything.
And I can't really throw far because my shoulder hurts, you know.
We had like three guys with shoulder problems from judo
that couldn't whip the ball.
Rear was like shot putting the ball i know it's like i can't swing whip it like shot putting it you know so that was fun yeah so that was fun we uh what else did we do
i mean we did a lot of judo hanging out. Yeah, drinking out. This isn't like the Hangout podcast, but specifically related to grappling.
It was really nice to see you do your style.
You want to talk a little bit about your judo style?
Yeah.
So this has been developed over time.
But my thing is nowadays I used to do a lot of drop throws but i kind of went away from it and now what i do is i
like shintaro mentioned i fight the right side i'll show the person all my right side throws
first like osoto gari kochi gari to start and then uchimata throwing there and then tai otoshi
and then if i if i can catch the person with those that's great
right like i'll throw in some woji too but then there are times people uh people who are very good
at shutting down those right-handed throws then i'll kind of start showing my left side as a surprise.
That'll shake them up.
Either I'll catch them or that'll actually open them up
on the right side again.
You know what's unique about your right and left?
What?
Your right side of judo throws, you do
mostly two-handed judo.
Left side of judo, you do mostly one-handed judo.
That's the unique thing
about it.
Right.
Right?
Because when you get that right hand on or the wrong hand, as they would say, or you lose that sleeve hand, usually the person who's on the opposite side of you is like,
yes, I have a one-handed advantage.
I have one hand on to the right side, the correct side.
Right?
And this guy's righty, therefore he may not have an attack to the left side,
but you have a whole system.
You don't do locked up kenka to two-on-two judo to the left.
No, no, no.
So that's what makes it very unique.
So you can put the wrong hand on and then start blasting away,
not just one or two direct or misdirection attacks,
but you have a whole system there, which is really cool.
I would have liked to see you hit more tomonage tomonage okay and then with that sleeve hand so when you have no
hand on yanking yanking one-handed tile i saw you go for once i don't know if you hit anybody with
it i i hit a couple um but it's hard it's hard on this that one really it's hard on that one really.
It's probably because I'm not that good at it because the person who popularized it,
Wonhee Lee, he hits it on everyone.
But it's more of a surprise game.
A lot of times, I still haven't figured it out
because a lot of times, people will let go.
I mean, that's the best defense.
Yeah, it's a no-handed tile you know
yeah so so i i did hit hit some and but it won't i usually can only do it on people who don't know
me so the i hit it on the visitor the brown visiting brown belt because he didn't know me
and then he was kind of pushing down on my right arm my right sleeve and
then i can hit it yeah so yeah though and then tomo and i did hit on ryu because he was kind of
pushing into me but i i try to do more i want to do more yoko tomo and nage but i haven't figured
out how to fit it into my game it's not not, it's like a one-off thing now,
right now for now.
Yeah.
I should probably try to build it into my system more.
Might need a soda in your game.
Eventually.
I think I used to do that too,
but it kind of went away.
Cause I,
I just don't know where to fit it yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting stuff,
man.
It was really nice seeing you coming through and doing judo.
You know,
I think what's the most relatable thing here is like you know just training and revisiting
old dojos and yeah training old rivals and going against that stuff and athleticism like all that
stuff's pretty relatable you know so that's why i want to talk about that today nice nice so yeah
so i had a phenomenal time and i can't thank you enough yeah you're very welcome for hosting me
yeah
and
he's got a great spot
right next to the dojo
yeah
if anybody wants to come
and visit me
you know
maybe
you could add a lot of value
to the room
then of course
yeah
yeah
exactly
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