The Shintaro Higashi Show - Post-training Checklist

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

You've come up with a pre-training checklist, and followed it to the dot during practice. Now, what do you do after practice? Should you just kick back and relax? Obviously, the answer is no as it is the perfect time to reflect on what you did during practice and prepare for the next one. Again, this is especially more important for hobbyists with limited training time. In this episode, Shintaro and Peter discuss what is on their post-training checklist. Please support us on Patreon if you can: https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!

hello everyone welcome back to the shintaro higashi show with peter yu today we're going to talk about a post judo training checklist right what to do after you had a hard workout nutrition wise mentally emotionally maybe all the different things right yeah because sometimes you get beaten up right and you're like oh man i am not good at judo what am i doing not even judo right jujitsu wrestling yeah yeah oh my god you know it's really's really important to be able to do some of this stuff. Right. So this ties well into our previous episode about the pre-training checklist. So we're trying to be more mindful, more active in our learning and training so that most of us are hobbyists.

So we want to maximize the limited time we have on the mat. So that's the idea. So let's go back to the idea of mindful practice. And then, you know, what does that mean? And how does that look into post-training checklist? Yeah. So if you have a good pre-training checklist, like you're going in with purpose, right? There's reason for being there.

There's things you already want to work on. The mindful practice is like actively thinking about it while you're doing it. You're going in with purpose. There's reason for being there. There's things you already want to work on. The mindful practice is actively thinking about it while you're doing it. A lot of the times when you're in survival mode and you're just going out to work out, then you're just thrown down, you kind of have judo amnesia where it's like after practice, you can't remember anything. And that happens to a lot of people, I think. So you really have to treat each of your training sessions as if it's a training session that link together right because sometimes like i'll go to the gym be

like you know i just want to break a sweat and get a workout in right it doesn't really connect with anything right like part of a 10-week program for progressive overload or right like working on this mobility because my shoulder's kind of messed up like sometimes i just want to go out and work out right right and there's no reason for me to like if i if that's the purpose for me to like go back and think about it or adjust or anything like that or keep track of like what reps i did because it's just one independent workout maybe i just wanted to break a sweat maybe i just you know was annoyed by something i put a blow of some steam right so you kind of have to know like what the purpose is of the judo practice independently is right and then you have to treat it as such so being mindful kind of helps you because it teaches

you to to train yourself to be like all right what am i here for what is the purpose of this session really that's kind of so that's why it's like uh important to during practice uh for the for this purpose of being mindful uh not to spaz out you know because i like to try to be too intense sometimes you gotta check your pump your brakes a little and then yeah so that you can stop and think yeah all too frequently like you come in you know you could talk to somebody ha ha ha you, you know, do one round and go crazy, right? Then talk to somebody, do another round and go crazy. All right, nirwaza, you do some nirwaza and you go for stuff that you already know, right?

And then you're kind of just going for the motions, you know? And yes, you're sweating, you're working out, you're interacting with your peers and it's great and it's fun, but that's just one thing. And if that's your goal, like that's all you're there for, that's fine. If you want to just work out, you know, burn some calories, make some friends and then like enjoy, like that's all you're there for, that's fine. If you want to just work out, burn some calories, make some friends, and then enjoy, that's okay. It really is okay. I'm completely fine with people like that. I actually like a lot of people like this too because you need people like that.

Right. But mindfully, I'm going towards a goal, and it's not usually competition for my guy. I'm not trying to push competition. I'm not for it all the time. usually competition for my guy i'm not trying to push competition right i'm not like for it all the time but like if you're trying to go towards something if you're trying to build yourself up to be this skillful technician right that has a plan and a strategy and you're doing intellectual grappling right you have to be mindful and you have to think through some of your things that you're doing or you have to be present you know so it's like in between rounds

right i'm watching someone that i want it's like in between rounds right i'm watching someone that i want to emulate or in between rounds like i'm going with this person next let me build that profile in my mind of how they fight what are my strategies how do i want to approach this right training right practice right that way you're constantly thinking you're constantly growing you're getting the most out of it and i used to never do this it sounds like i'm like a person that like done this forever that was the opposite of that i was just like you know one on one off train really hard you know hang out really hard like that was kind of like my thing you know so anyone who knows me from my competition days they're listening there's not like you didn't do any of this stuff you know and i wish i kind of

did you know because this is something i little by little learned later on i see and uh when you have this it gives each training more meaning right right right which means it's a lot easier to come back you know right the only thing you're doing is coming bullshitting throwing down getting banged up it's like oh man i gotta go to judo today it's like oh you know i don't feel like bullshit i'm gonna get banged up why would i go yeah there's not that much meaning to that independent practice right it's like it gets you going in terms of this flow state right right yeah so so that's for more of the training to kind of set you up for the post-training checklist yeah so after this having this mindful practice,

what do you personally do? Like any concrete things on the list? Yeah, usually first. Yeah. Yeah. You have to take sort of a checklist of what's going on in your body, right? And you're just going to have to like

take inventory almost. Right. And I like to stretch. Usually it's stretching because when you're doing judo, when you're turning one direction more, if you're doing new waza and then you know you're doing a lot of this elbow to knee stuff when you're like actively engaging and flexing your core right you're going to develop tendencies your body's going to naturally want to be in this

like uh place where it's making those shapes constantly so you're going to be tight in certain areas more than others. So a lot of times I see like, okay, stretch, and then people just touching their toes and stretching their hamstring. But really, if you're bent over a lot of the times, like if you're wrestling, you want to stretch your abdomen, your abs. So you want to kind of do the reverse of that. You're turning to one side more. You want to twist and turn to the other side a little bit

and stretch through those movements. You want to mindfully do it with purpose okay stretch and people just kind of put their arm across the body and go like this is like okay what right right is your right right rear delt like tight you know a lot of times for me it's like i get a lot of shoulder mobility stuff because judo wrestling jujitsu creates a 10 that internal rotation of the shoulders right so it's not healthy for healthy like a good you know just for day-to-day life, right? And also if you have internal rotation, you land on the side, it's a lot easier to hurt your shoulder.

So I want to like do the reverse of that, right? So stretch my chest, right? Work on my external rotation of my rotator cuff and my shoulders in order to, you know, maintain this sort of a healthy frame that way I have longevity, the sport, in life. I don't want to – you get one body. Stretching, yeah, take an inventory of your body and then stretching. That's one for me and I'm naturally very, very tight.

I know it's a limitation that I set to myself, but my father is a little bit stiff. Nobody in my family is like flexible and mobile so it's like i really have to actively work on it to be you know just like a normal human being almost you know you you did ballet though i was not flexible in that yeah but so yeah like i think that's a good point about this i mean i'm not really diligent about stretching if you want to hear more about my ballet days you have to sign up for a patreon which is yeah we'll talk yeah maybe we'll throw in some what was i like in ballet class like what was i there for did i meet anybody oh oh yeah oh yeah we had some fun he dragged me into one of the classes which was really fun yeah

yeah so yeah i remember doing the uh because yeah i i i kind of did i was kind of like that with stretching too just going through the motion i i would just do the leg stretches i will do the splits whatever but then you started making us do the um I don't even know how to describe it it's like you flip over like you're in the all your fours and then you flip over and then try to yeah yeah and then I try to do some like the back arches like rainbow stuff I got back arches posterior chain all this stuff you could always do it but you know there's always the problem is right it's like after practice everybody's winding down everyone's on that high everyone's like all right you know what are you doing tomorrow what's going on and you know you kind of get into that state of like all right you know it's like that post judo clarity you know or

right it's like you know yeah and then you're just like relaxing there and it's like oh man it's like oh feels good you know you want to just lie in there you're sapped right you took all your day you know the stresses of your boss coming down yeah and reading memos and all this stuff and you just blew it right it's gone you're empty you know and you're just this shell of a person and you just catered to your primal need to touch and grapple and fight right that's right flight all this stuff and you're you're sapped you feel great my thing is stretch now and you know talk about this and into like that a lot of people just zone out and they just chill out they stretch and bullshit sometimes it's one of my favorites. You know, it's like even at practice yesterday, what were we talking about?

It's like we're talking about NFTs and ethereal mining. He's talking about a friend that has an LLC in his Roth, right? And then mines the Ethereum and sells it right away. So it's like in the tax sheltered situation. Yeah, that's really cool. That's really cool. It's like since I have a Judo question. Not now.

Like it's easy to get caught up in that you know right what's that thing wrong with that but maybe wrong with that yeah maybe you could you could be like kind of delay gratification situation where you stretch as a group and then if you talk about these things you'll feel even more even better i'm not a believer in stretching as a group. I really am not. Oh, you don't? Because I remember when I was wrestling in college. It's like, all right, touch your toes, you know, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, all right, but I don't need to stretch my hamstrings.

That's not my problem. I see. Because everyone has different parts. I mean, of course, yeah, stretching hamstrings is always pretty good. You know what I mean? parts that i mean of course yeah stretching hamstring is always pretty good you know what i mean yeah yeah it's like i have my own thing and i you know i'm kind of a little bit against like all right everyone do the same stretch the same exercises everyone has such a different body and different needs uh but even when i do the stretches too it's like a lot of the times uh

for instance if i'm leading a warm-up it's like a lot of it is catered to my body right my soul my hip flexors get tight so it's like i'm doing those exercises you know we tend to be you know tight in similar areas we're all doing the same sport right 99 of our daily lives are essentially 99 the same right we all go to work we all come from work and we all sit too much and we're all too sedentary and we're all doing judo so you know what i mean but i'm not a big fan of like to go stretch right sorry we had a little accident it's okay a camera file but yeah i mean yeah one thing is like some people like you know your body well because you've been doing this for a while but yes that's true that's sometimes people you know don't know yeah you're right you're right you

have a point there so the group stretching is good yeah well in certain situations in certain situations i changed my mind you know yeah i'm reading this book called rethink how to change your mind you know oh oh so you're trying to be you know keep your mind more flexible yeah keep my mind i'm pretty flexible you know uh yeah i try people convince me of stuff all the time no they do like i thought you thought this about it i'm like well i changed my mind yeah which is nothing wrong with that you know it's better than being too stubborn i guess yeah yeah you don't know that you don't know right yeah exactly we're all about that so you stretch now you know uh other sides of the you know now you kind of

have to stretching in a way goes with your recovery i guess so then there are other aspects other aspects of recovery such as you know nutrition what you eat yeah nutrition what do you yeah what do you usually do yeah you know i'm on like a weird thing right now with omegs i'm trying to lose weight one meal i'm only eating once a day right right which you know people can claim this and that and research that but you know at the end of the day for me it's it works for me right uh i did it we did a podcast about that so you guys yeah check that out it's right free it's not on patreon it's free yeah no that's not a special episode but like what do you so yeah go ahead big into protein shakes you know uh replenishing your glycogen stores and i think that is just straight up

you know science after science research after research you don't have to be you know a nutritional expert to know right you need protein right and you need carbs to replenish your glycogen stores but like i always say it's like are you trying to lose weight trying to watch your calories all those things matter but it is really just taking inventory of your body right stretching is one nutrition is another and then you know am i hurt today? Did I hurt something today? Do I need to ice my knee? That's another one. Right, right.

It's like, basically the whole idea is that you take stock of what's happened to your body through practice. And make sure everything's working well. And sometimes those little injuries manifest themselves after a night of sleep or 24 hours. Oh, definitely. Adrenaline is pumping. So you should probably kind of keep a lookout for a day. Yep. Just to make sure.

Here's a good idea. So like you're a lefty doing judo all the time, right? And then you fight mostly righties because most of the people in your gym are righties. Now all of a sudden, your left arm is doing a lot of work right posting moving posting moving so it's like you're constantly just using this left arm so it gets tight right so the movement patterns of practice is really ripe for you to create some repetitive stress injuries okay right so it's like all right so i have to post checklist like take an inventory my shoulder feels tight let me stretch it a little bit let me ice it a little bit let me eat some anti-inflammatory

foods right whether it's like you know i'm gonna stay away from sugar tonight or i'm gonna eat something that's like actively like anti-inflammatory like fish oils and cherry juice or something like that right and then you know for your next practice you'll be like you know what i'm gonna fight mostly other lefties so i don't have to deal with that same stimulus all the time. And a lot of the times, if it's something like if you're at a jiu-jitsu gym, I hear this all the time. Like, oh, man, my hands are killing me. My hands are killing me. It's like, okay, take a break from gi.

Do no-gi classes. That way you save one or two practices where you don't use your fingers as much, obviously, when you're doing no-gi. You're grabbing the freaking wrist you know so that's a way to like you know go through that checklist and then take it into your body and then adjusting and adapting because you're just going in and throwing down every practice right you're gonna get hurt you're gonna get messed up right so it's it's nice that you know the idea is that post checklist kind of feeds back into the your pre-training list checklist and then training it's like a constant loop of improvement yes yeah yes yes yes yeah

positive feedback loop positive that's right that's right so here's a uh so now we kind of cover the um like the physical side of things um so let's kind of move on to the mental side of things in terms of the post-training checklist so here's one thing i've heard a lot of people do it's a it's a to keep a journal yeah after judo or bjj yeah i think a lot i think it might be more popular in bjj i just or maybe it's just my anecdotal evidence but um yeah like so basically the idea is that you you know write down whatever you learn kind of descriptions and then how you felt during practice whatever and then what you want to do i guess kind of formalizing this checklist and then keeping record what do you yeah what do you think about that

you know it's you know what say, like different strokes for different folks. Some people really learn a lot that way, like writing things down. If you write it down, I think research shows us too, like if you write it down, you're much more likely to remember. I heard that too. But it's your learning ability. Can you take that writing down sort of a situation and connect it to the tactile kinesthetic side of things?

Can you make that bridge? Right. Can you connect those two things? It works really well for some people. Some people like to review their notes before their training. Right. And their academics. And then it really benefits them because sometimes it's like you go in and like, oh, man, I don't really know what I should be working on.

Let me just scroll through my stuff. What did I learn last time? Oh, you know, we went over pulling the head down and setting up that tie over reverse left oh okay or reverse right i'm gonna specifically deliberately train that because i want to get good at that right right right or what did sensei specifically say to me that was designed for me in my years only right right right x y and z oh yeah that was very important i get to work on that so like yes it can work you know as a reminder but you know there's people who are very self-directed right who are like oh man this is what i need to do and you know that person right might not care as much right

it's a nice refresher not for everybody you know i've seen some people do it yeah me too which side do you fall on you have you ever go on and off about it yeah I had training journals what will be had if you look at I didn't know younger yeah I've done it you know like when I look at stuff that I wrote down in high school it was like I worked out with this person I slammed them three times I worked out with that person I sent them four times I worked out with this person he absolutely beat the hell out of me I can't wait to get better so i could destroy him in the future or some nonsense oh that's cute that was like super unhelpful you know it's like i look back at it

it's like what was i thinking you know i wish i had somebody to kind of give me the but then you know uh i go a little bit deeper you know like when bernardo was at my dojo bernardo faria right and he showed the over under pass and uh yeah you know the deep bernardo was at my dojo bernardo farrier right and he showed the over underpass and uh yeah you know the deep half guard from bottom sweep and then how his system kind of connect together right and then ultimately his goal is to get the to have the side control right right pose guard underhook deep half guard sweep over on the pass get the side control and then he has this one uh choke that he does with the the gi and one little trick where he like puts the bottom of the gi lapel in the palm of his hand

so you can't see the gi oh i think he showed up and he feeds it yeah yeah so like i wrote that down you know and then it's in my notes on i in the apple and sometimes i'll like scroll through it uh it depends where i am sort of not even like training wise but like how i'm feeling like what i'm into that's specific sometimes i get like really into grappling uh you know like and like right now i'm into something else you know what i mean what are you into i don't even want to say but maybe for maybe for another episode research and like um you know like post graduate degrees a little bit oh oh i really enjoyed my mba you know uh my master's right oh wait this is new to me you're just telling me this yeah that's why i've been asking you about your research and stuff too because it's like all right dude research like what is that really like

you know what i mean oh i i have a lot to say about that maybe we'll we'll dedicate an episode yeah we'll uh yeah we'll do that that's a good one for patreon notice i've been like looking up that and then researching that. Is it really worth my time? Because there really is no other career for me but what I'm doing now. Yeah. Right? So even going, getting the MBA, it's like, all right, why? You want to bring it like my major was entrepreneurship and finance.

It's like, you want to start your own company? No. Do you want to get into tech? No. Do you want to work in finance? Not really. Right? So why did you do it? It's like, no, Do you want to work in finance? Like, not really. Right? So why did you do it?

It's like, no. It was like really interesting for me to do. Right. Right? So now it's like I kind of a little bit missed that. So like I want to see what's out there after that, you know? Oh, I see. And I've always wanted to go to law school.

I don't know if you guys know this. I got into law school a couple years ago, maybe like five, six years ago. But I was still competing in judo. So I was like, I can't do law school and do judo and run the dojo i just can't do it right i just physically couldn't do it so it's like do i still want to revisit that you know i've been kind of like going down you know the rabbit i'm really digressing that has nothing to do anymore well uh we'll say for the you know just so that's a little bit of a sneak peek for that episode yeah i would love to hear some of my uh people who are listening to the

pot a lot of people have been reaching out to me it's like yeah it's overwhelming almost two or three people reach out to me every two or three days like almost one a day somebody mentions a podcast and reaches out to me oh wow but if you guys have like ideas about you know some people are really wise at this stuff yeah what you could do is uh join us you is support us on Patreon and join our Discord server. We can talk about this. Yeah, we can. Give Shintaro some

career advice. That's right. Alright, so that was about the journaling. I personally never kept the journal. But you're a programmer though yeah you're recently you know i actually saw a video about uh like i said because i was going down the rabbit hole of research right right what you should do as a phd what you should do as a

researcher keep a research journal why did you make the decision that you made oh i'm not i'm going to exclude this writing or article from you you know, my dissertation. Uh, you've made that decision. Okay. You revisit that article. Oh, why did I exclude this from my research paper? Right. I do remember it.

I do keep notes, like pretty detailed notes on my like research. Cause. so why not for Judo? Well, it's because, well, first of all,

I, this is a new thing i i never took notes really when i was a programmer before um but since i started my phd you just have you just can't remember everything you know so yeah and i can't remember everything yeah yeah and then you have you're reading so many things that you kind of have to see how they connect with each other which other that's true and then you get programnesia yeah you do you do so that's why i started because i at the beginning i quickly realized like this is not sustainable if i try to keep everything in my head so it's like almost like a like a second uh brain in a way like where keep my senses but you know

for judo I don't do that because I want to kind of de-stress from that because that's so much active learning mindful learning on one side that like I just don't have energy by the time I get to judo but I do still

think about it I do think about what I want to do. I do try to be, you know, you know, I like when I struggle with a person, I, I hit you up sometimes for advice, like what should I do? What kind of things? So I do do that. Yeah. But you know, if some, if, if this is something like taking detailed notes or keeping a journal is something you want to do, I think it's a, it's a great thing to do.

You know, it would be really helpful. When I, yeah. When I, uh, take those notes, it helps to have some short form stuff.

I'm sure you have short form. Yeah. You know, like Kenka, it's like RVL, RVR, right? Right.

Some things like this. And then you have like a little bit of short form situation that it can really help. Right. Right. That's right. That way. so you kind of like look through it that's what's so cool about notes now you could just like type in there are so many tools you could use now yeah you don't have to like actually keep that journal so yeah speaking of uh uh you know speaking of like the struggle with some of the your training partners um so another thing i like to do is kind of like oh you know kind of get a feel of everyone like oh i can

practice this kind of technique with this person and that person yada yada so let's kind of dive into that how do you do you do that do you how do you approach it if you do yes so after practice you want to revisit each one of your matches granted that you don't have judo amnesia right right right a lot of the times like i said you know if you're in survival mode you're not going to remember anything yeah yeah you're just trying to survive but if you're actively trying to practice you're mindfully doing everything you're you're constructing your training around how you want to get better right it's gonna you're actively trying to practice, you're mindfully doing everything, you're constructing your training around how you want to get better, right? It's going to – you're going to be able to remember this stuff.

Once you do, you want to sort of build a profile of the people around you that you're training with, right? Because it's not just you doing the moves, right? Because it's an interaction of your skills versus theirs. It's your techniques against their techniques kind of. Like sort of this two-person situation. So, a lot of the times, people are like,

oh, what can I do better? It's like, I have to pull the sleeve more, use my arms more, I got to make my taiyo better, I got to do more. No,

you got to think about your opposition as well. Right, right. For instance, right, Peter caught me with the tomonage today, how did he catch me with that?

Peter caught me with that left taiyo with the one-hand sleeve. Now, how do I deal with that? Right? And those are two techniques that i've been caught with by you right right right yeah twice i've been caught yeah right right and the thing is okay so now it's like i don't want to ever get caught again uh so i've made my adjustments and right you haven't caught me with those yet no yeah i should i should have retired then i remember those yeah yeah but it's like there's a reason why I got caught.

Right? So like I can't just say, okay, I suck at defending Tomonage or suck at defending left tile. It's like, why did I get caught with those things? Right? Because when I gained that first sleeve, right versus right, me and you were right versus right situation. Right?

I get nonchalant. And if I relax my arm to not let the hand the gi come off my hand and i follow your hand right to preserve my hands right it opens up your left tile that one shot tile that's sort of it's a trick right and you bait it and it's a one-shot situation right yeah everything has so now yeah yeah that's right so then i got caught with it so now next time i fight when i'm in that specific situation i'll never do that again. Right, right. Right?

Yeah. So that's a good way to build a small profile for you. And now it's not just specifically for you, but somebody who is a righty that can do the same sort of a trick. Now if you're competing, you have access to a lot of their matches online. Right, right. Does this person have a one-shot move turn throw to the weak side? Right, yeah.

If they do off that sleeve, that's something you have to watch out for. And I've been caught with this against this guy, Aliev, from when I was in my early, you know, when I was like 20. Competition circuit, yeah. I would post of my left hand, he's a right versus right setting,

and he would go, Harai Maki Komi to the left side. So exactly the same thing you do, right? But he's another one verse right setting you go harai makikomi to the left side so exactly the same thing you do right but he's another one right version right so it's happened to me twice i know two people who do this right oh really two people who do it exactly like that except his harai makikomi right so there's two profiles and then so the third time now if i encounter someone that like can go for it i'm a little bit more if i'm winning with that post hand or the sleeve hand, I'm a little bit more attentive to see if they have it. Right? Right, right.

And it's not something that I'll put too much mind onto, but it's something that it's always just like a little bit there. And I could do this because of my post judo checklist. Right. judo checklist right this is good now because you know by building a profile for every person you you've got a practice with you're kind of expanding the horizon like kind of uh your judo muscle in a way yes like because i've seen it before yeah exactly how do i deal with the next time it's like programming right peter can you explain how this is like very similar to programming well you know this is actually pretty interesting because a lot of programming is debugging, you know?

Because humans are just not good at thinking logically, sequentially like that. It's inevitable that you write bugs, but you can get better at it by debugging a lot. So, you know, a lot of times programs with uh more experience are they think uh they're faster because they can fix bugs quickly more quickly because they've seen them before so i noticed that i'm like oh wait why is this my programming throwing out this error and that error and i I'm like, oh, you know what?

I've seen this before and I know how to get that information. Can you give us an example? Oh, let's see. What's a, what would be a good example? So for example, and without going into too much detail, there's a lot of times in programming, you try to allocate a list of things you know and sometimes uh and then pro computers complain when you go out of bounds on it like hey so when i see those errors i immediately recognize that i've seen them so much i've made that same mistake so much

that I know exactly what to look for like oh it's probably because I'm looping through things wrong so I know exactly where to look for and then you say yeah you just get better at it you you get better at recognizing these uh patterns yeah pattern matching so that you know analogous to judo right so if you go for an osoto guard and you get countered yeah they get countered because you're attacking from losing position yeah higher on the collar right side versus right side right a lot of people like oh man my soul is not good enough it's just not going hard enough and i've heard people say you got to go harder and faster it's like not really right and you're kind of just making the same mistakes over and over again or you use use your arms more like yeah you gotta debug your judo right yeah you

debug your judo and then yeah if you make this mistake i mean that's why rando is so important you know and then being mindful through it yeah yeah that's like so that's the really you know it's going to help you hit the next level right being able to recognize these things and understand these things and the more you're in it the more you'll be able to see the pattern see understand some of these strategies yeah now that we're talking about it you guys everybody's like oh yeah yeah it makes sense now you know but it's like why something didn't work right it's a very difficult thing to be able to do right you know it's like for

instance like when i was studying for the gmat you know it's like why did i get this question wrong no you know right in the beginning you have no clue right no clue right but then little by little you encounter the same questions over and over and you're like i got it now i'll never make a mistake on this problem again yeah even though i probably did you know but you know less so like less frequently you know that's the idea yes a little bit less frequently that's the goal and so on the flip side of building a profile so that you don't fall into their traps is uh try to learn good things from them like oh wow yeah shintaro does this thing well joyce does this thing well let me try to you know work those uh things they the techniques they use into my system

so yep yep how you have to emulate some of these things that other people are doing right and then you have that's a great way to learn right that's right way to learn yeah and you can't do one-offs you know like yeah if you have no grip fighting skill and then you want to do sumi right being able to win in position and block that shoulder from posting is a necessary skill before you go in for that sumi right if i see somebody do sumi gaeshi and i want to go for sumi but i can't block that shoulder because i have no grip fighting skills i'm never going to be able to use it successfully. Right. So you have to build that profile for that person you want to emulate

and you have to see whether you have some of these prerequisite skills to be able to hit some of those things and whether or not this technique integrates with your system well. Then you can sort of start borrowing techniques from people. I think we talked about in earlier episodes, but this is one of the pitfalls of watching YouTube highlights reels because you don't only see... Oh, I'm going to do that. Yeah.

Yeah. You see this cool throw. It's in perfect context. Yeah, exactly. They can't just pull it off right off the bat. Everything has to kind of lead up to it but if you if you build a nice profile of a person that you want to emulate you can actually and again like you said you have to know yourself your system enough to you know build it in yeah that's right it's like

why does all knows tomo nage work so well i know i still haven't figured it out i i've i've gotten better at uchimata watching him. I try to... That whipping style, I think it works well for me. But what's your take on his Tomo Inagi? How would you build his profile in terms of that? All right, so he's good at gripping, right? And if he gets...

We talked a little bit about losing judo. If he gets outgripped and he's losing and the person has a high collar, he still throws a Soto from there. He can still throw Uchorio from there. Yeah. He can still throw Uchimata from there. He just switches the grip to the tricep sometimes or keeps that sleeve and then he bombs it, right? And he's pretty strong, big and strong for his division.

Yeah. So he goes, losing position Osorio, right? And people fear this. Losing position Uchimata, people fear this. So naturally, they take a forward lean to the opposite side. Okay? So then he drops and then goes to tomonage towards the side that the people are leaning right so he actually has a lot of technique a lot of

movement and a lot of attacks from his losing position right right when he gets over yes so he gets out gripped he does right yeah all the time people talk about he's such a great you know always in great position yes and no right even when he's in a great, you know, always in great position. Yes and no, right? Even when he's in bad position, when a taller person throws his arm over the back, he can still throw Osoto from there, Uchimata from there, Tomonage from there. Pretty incredible, yeah. Incredible. And Uchimata is the one people are always thinking about. And then Osoto is super powerful, so they're thinking about that next.

And when they're too, too cognizant about those two attacks, he'll drop monaghan to the to the other side yeah so that's why it's so successful but the way he does to monaghan like he drops and then takes him over to this side across his body it's like if you're just doing that without the cues of the other person resisting to the other threats right you're just doing a simple direct attack and any direct attack that comes just from right you could just kind of see it coming. It works really well because it's contextual. There's other stuff that's a real threat that you need to be reacting to in order to make this thing maximized. Right.

So now you have this profile. So you have to now think back to yourself. Do you have losing position techniques like Ohno? losing position techniques um like like oh no or you can if you don't you can try to kind of emulate them maybe throw in more you know uh yeah your strong side attacks yeah so that to trick people into like push people into that corner and then throw in the tomari nugget like things like that right most people yeah most people will be in losing position right first right go for that osoto and get countered yeah and they think their osoto sucks right and then they just make sure

that they do more uchikomis and go without even knowing that it's a positional thing right right right and a lot of the other factors that you can't even see matter is the person bigger than me stronger than me is he tall than me is he in the same weight class as me all these different things what is their experience level right so it stops at that my Osoto socks I'm just kind of like

not really going to go for it because I get counted all the time right that's it it never progresses to the second layer in third layer in fourth layer in

which Ono has done right obviously he has a lot of time to spend on Judo yeah and he has the best coaches in the world on top of being an amazing athlete right like it's an unfair comparison right to make yourself who's probably listening to this who's an enthusiast a hobbyist who goes to training all

the time love judo you know to compare that person with the best person of judo in the world right but if you can't even see right that sort of loop or the arc of like ono's situation why tomonage is amazing it's very hard to emulate any of that right right so understanding it i think is first and foremost and if you're listening to this podcast like you're you know you probably do understand all this stuff yeah you're trying to help you through the journey super niche like there's probably the most niche thing you can listen to yeah so now that you know you profiled your you took care of your body you mentally kind of took note of whatever you did and then what other people did with you now how do you loop it back into the next training what do you think about that you know they look to complete

the positive feedback loop how do you plan for the next so you're using all this data right yeah you run this program that you're trying to program your body to do something and you you know you have you the person inputting the data and then you have the computer running it going in and out right and then now you just go back and then you're trying to build on it strategically and sometimes you know when you're at a much higher level you know you take inspiration from youtube right right somebody does this try to understand it and that's the beauty of it watch a lot of instructionals but take it with a grain of salt right i'm really trying to organize your thoughts and then come up with a plan for the

practice after that right so a lot of the practices you know the best part of your training right the part that you get the most out of happens after training right when you're thinking about judo right you know and for me a lot of it was like winning judo right thinking about it succeeding in it. But that's a little bit of a different story. That really ultimately doesn't help me that much, right? It helps me to be intrinsically motivated to like train and do it because I love it. But it really doesn't help on the gaming side of it.

Like gamify, like the gameness of judo. And that comes from like playing this sort of mental game of like this interesting puzzle that i'm trying to figure out and once you get interested in it i think there's a lot more that you could do you know in terms and you understand about keeping your body safe and it becomes an intellectual thing where it's a lot more interesting that way yeah as opposed to like a person that's coming in and throwing down all the time it's a physical thing for them it's a physical activity period right right and that's not sustainable because there's always going to be someone bigger stronger faster than you and you meet some resistance where the guy just beats the hell out of you now you don't

want to go yeah so being interested taking inspiration from online videos and things like that i think does play a big role in this yeah so then the staying so by staying interested you know we'll make it's more like a not it's more like your structure restructure this whole activity so that you you are more likely to get interested and then they and then so that you plan for the next one you're can you can't wait for the next uh practice or whatever and then yeah this is not just for judo you know i i think a lot of any activities can be restructured this way and then you you can be more interested and then more effective in it you know yeah and you know once you have peers that are in the same mindset as you yeah it becomes a lot more interesting

right because you could talk about this stuff right like you probably have phd friends you could talk about your research and this and you could talk about their research and draw inspiration now you speak the language right uh that's right c++ you know coding computers microphones yeah there's some stupid stuff like that yeah yeah some stupid stuff like that yeah you know what i mean python right oh gosh yeah i have a friend yeah yeah i have a love-hate relationship with that language so that's that's a little yeah shutter gives me a little shutter but anyway yeah that's right peers are you know having peers and the same you're a little bit silly talking about it initially right yeah you're at the bar

and you're talking about you know the finer details and finishing it right what the hell is it right once you really get into it then it's like okay i'm gonna hit this person with that i'm gonna hit that person with that not in like an arrogant hostile way but it's like man how do i finish yeah this person in this way how does this person react every time i can exploit those patterns and once you start getting into having conversations in this direction right now you have someone to be engaged in the sport with yeah right so i think friendships in the room are very important yeah that's right i think that and uh another advantage of judo's or martial art bell system we talked about in another episode but it's like yeah that's like you have a little cohort that you are growing together and then it's like it's it's you can

see it right away it's like oh green bell brown bell yep you know yellow bell so you can kind of like gravitate towards them because they will be on the similar skill level not a lot of activities have this kind of uh explicit structure in terms of skill levels and then in a way this is uh very good yeah yeah that's right cool all right well that's the post-training checklist man yeah that's a lot you know but you can you know this i think we keep emphasizing this but it we talk about a lot of these things and then we've developed all you know especially shintaro he's been doing judo all his life so he's built this system throughout the

years and he's dumping kind of knowledge dumping on you but it has to be sustainable don't try to do everything shintaro had just talked about maybe start with one thing and then build upon it you know so otherwise you get overwhelmed anyway so um anything else before we conclude nope you want to plug our patreon situation that's right so we made our patreon page um so if you appreciate our work content we're creating please support us place to support us and you get access i know you guys message shintaro a lot and he just can't get to everyone but one benefit of being a patreon of our of our work is um you get access to this discord server where you can talk to us directly you know in a more intimate setting i guess so yeah so shintaro will be able to get to your question better for quicker so that's the

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