The Shintaro Higashi Show - Reading Your Opponent

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

Using your opponent's action and reaction to your advantage is one of the key concepts of Judo. In order to do so, you need to be able to "read" your opponent. Everyone talks about the importance of reading your opponent, but what does it really mean? Is it about your opponent's balance? Is it about your opponent's preferred techniques? Or is it about your opponent's strategy? In this episode, Shintaro and Peter go in depth about how to effectively read your opponent to take your Judo to the next level. Please support us on Patreon if you can: https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!

Hello everyone, welcome back to the Shintaro Higashi Show with Peter Yu. Today we're going to do a topic one of our Patreons has suggested on the Discord channel. Yeah. How to read your opponent when you're about to compete against them or work out with them or fight against them in Judo. Or grappling, period. You know what I mean? Yeah, reading your opponent's reactions is reading your opponent, I guess, more generally. Let's expand on that.

This was a suggestion from augustine and sam and lan also wanted to hear more about it yep so uh yeah like so it since the grab with judo and grappling are very uh it's a one-on-one sport so you need to really figure out your opponent in order to either impose your game on them or defend against whatever your opponent does, whatever. So where should we start? What would be the first step into becoming better at reading your opponent? All right, so first and foremost, before we actually talk like strategical judo or tactical judo

or any sort of grappling, what does it mean to read an opponent right okay so what are you doing is you're looking at their body language and seeing what their intentions are if you're trying to look at it from a street fight standpoint and if the person's on the cross opposite side of the street that person can't punch you right but can that person throw a rock at you yes right if they pick up a rock you're like all right what's he gonna do that rock? If he pulls his arm back with the rock, it's like, hey, he might throw that rock at me. Yeah. Right?

And similarly, when they get closer, it's like, are they within range? Right? And then they put their left foot forward and cock their right hand back. There's probably a right-handed haymaker coming. Right. And majority of the people on this planet are right-handed. So they're going to take a looping wild swing at your head right you've read your opponent right and if you can

anticipate that you could duck it shoot it on the legs right you try to defend it block it or duck it whatever and punch them in the face or counter it yeah similarly in judo also when the opponent comes at you based on right whether or not they're leading with their right leg or left leg, can tell you the whole story. Okay. Yeah. And if the person comes out and their hands are up, and generally with experience you'll be able to tell the way they're standing, which hand they have front. Okay. And then if I'm playing like an amateur person, if they bow and then just like walk up to me with their hands down, it's going to be very easy with my hands up to easily put my hand in the dominant position.

Right, right. So boom, boom, put the dominant position. Lead leg is right. It's going to be a right versus right position. I've already have dominant position. They're not going to be able to take me down from there once I have my grips established. Okay. And then in that position, as opposed to just dominating and throwing them, I'm going to let them try to throw me when they're in inferior position.

That way I could log all the techniques that they're going for. Oh, he went for Osoto. Oh, he went for a Sasai. He tried to do the complementary misdirectional thing. Okay, so he has a misdirection, Osoto, Sasai. And I'm stuffing all of them because I'm in good position.

That's very interesting because you're not just trying to read based on what your opponent does to you like you're almost like baiting your opponent to collect data yes you can collect data that's exactly right and then right as opposed to just slamming them there i show a couple of feints yeah show us auto see what their reactions are okay right no reaction okay maybe i'll just set it up and just blast him asoto right if i show asoto and he gives one reaction back in the opposite direction or if he steps away from that leg next i could kind of faint it and go for ochi

right right right pull the head down and see if he has a bailout throw make him uncomfortable make it uncomfortable all right and then i can slowly start logging what he does. But then this is assuming that you have established like a dominant grip though, right? Yes. But even if you're not a dominant grip, right? Let's say if we lock up 50-50, right? If you have enough experience, you could defend from there. If you're big, strong, fast, athletic, good at judo, good at 50- defend from there if you're big strong fast

athletic good at judo good at 50 50 judo where you're locked up 50 50 like you could still kind of do this stuff right but there's just more of a risk of you getting thrown i see so taking the initiative and then gripping and attacking first i think and then getting the dominant position is everything in my world of grappling because you want to put them in an inferior position what if so i you know grappling is you can't every not everything can go to call your way so what if you lose the grip initial grip fighting and then you're in the inferior position do you just need to now focus on getting back to your superior position or at least to 50 50 so it depends on how much i fear the person's technique, right? And then this comes also like when you're locked up with someone and they have dominant position,

you could truly feel the blunt of their athleticism and their power, right? And then depending on how threatened I feel, I may just opt to just go for a bailout attack to test to see if the guy has any nirwaza, groundwork. Ah, I see. And then as soon as I go to Monage, he tries to pass and start pinning. I'm like, oh shit, this guy has good Nuwaza. Okay?

Right? So now I could log that in my system. But if I'm like, you know what? I think I could kind of stay here in the pocket and see, feel him out. Then I'll try to like put my chin over, incrementally gain while accepting some of his attacks and I'm going to log it.

Right? He's faking turn throw and trying to catch me kochi he's forcing uchimana right and he's fighting far away or is he like pulling me closer going over the top deeper right and then i already had made assumptions based on his physical type is he tall is he gonna come over the back is he shorter than me which is rare because i'm pretty short right is he going to go underneath and go for these underhooks right if i'm fighting somebody my weight generally they're going to be taller than me because i'm 220 pounds so it's very rare that someone's going to try to go underneath and go belt grip or underhook because you know if you weigh the same as me you're probably going to be taller right right so i've already made this assumption right the key is to understand like at a high

level how many right-sided throws how many left-sided throws and how many of those missed directions are there is he righty and does he have a couple of left or does he have a lot of left side attacks can he switch does he go high does he drop right now i'm kind of like probably confusing a lot of people yeah so you you've just enumerated a lot of things to consider but i'm sure you're not just like like metic like mechanically thinking through or like a almost like going through the checklist so it's yeah you've the idea is that you at when you first start you're gonna have to think through things and you're gonna miss a lot of things right because this is not this is all a conscious effort yeah for you with a lot of experience a lot of things are unconscious like you yes pick things up and you know right

away and then everything is kind of like automatic right it's pattern recognition right so if you're looking at chess and you have us play a certain opening you know that these are the weaknesses in this opening for their opponent so these are the two things that you're going to attack you already kind of know if you play that opening a lot yeah similarly with judo like if i'm going against a tall righty they're probably going to go over the back and they're probably going to go harai uchimata things like this they're drop senagi and stuff like that not really going to be a threat because i'm much shorter than them right so those are like legitimate assumptions

and if I'm competing against them on the international circuit right which I've been on like their videos are already out there so you can kind of log it oh yeah that's right thing yeah and they're known for these things so it's like you know where the battle is going to happen right if I'm fighting a Georgian dude and

he wants to go over Georgian A and I want to right Georgian B my game my strategy is going to happen right if i'm fighting a georgian dude and he wants to go over georgian a and i want to write georgian b my game my strategy is going to be like okay i already know where he wants to be try to refuse to have him get to that position and then play the grips and play the legs and try to force new odds or something right right so the strategy changes based on what my i know about the opponent and then the patterns that i see you know what i mean I think we're mostly talking about reading an opponent when people ask this question of someone you have never worked out with.

Right. Yeah, you can't possibly... Like, you know, even when you're visiting the gym or, you know... Yeah. Not everyone has a video of them. That's true.

So what you have to do is judge a book by its cover. That's true. Yeah. You have to look at them and immediately say okay is this person bigger than me does he look stronger than me right and of course just because they look stronger to you doesn't mean that they're stronger than you right right right you can make certain assumptions if they're lighter than you by 30 pounds and then they're shorter than you you could probably force 50 50 and still do really well yeah yeah right right so

those are kind of like the physical assumptions and then you watch them drill that's a big one are they drilling right side of the drink left side you know they come out with their hands down or up right if you outgrip them do they just switch to the left side that's usually a telltale sign of an inexperienced player yeah yeah right yeah and so i see so then so you go and you you can observe them throughout the practice that's another thing since not everyone has a video yeah and then getting dominant position and then you want to try to put pressure on their stance yeah push pull break them out of their stance kind of like in wrestling hand fighting right that way it kind of exposes them a little bit and see how they are, right, as they're scrambling around. And then you throw some feints in there to see if they react.

And then you can decide, like, anytime I try to show a turn throw and then they drop their hips to try to wrap around, this is an Ura Nagi guy. Or any time I try to do, like, a, you know, T-off stance and they try to dive underneath you like aaniyatoshi, I'm like, all right, I got to watch out for this guy's Taniyatoshi. Keep him a little bit more distance. Right. Right. Pull his head down. Pull his head down. That way he can't go Taniyatoshi.

And then I take the risk out of it. I take the risk out of like, oh, I don't know anything about this guy. I'm going to lock up turn and this guy going to sit into my knee with a savage Taniyatoshi. Right. I take that risk completely out of it, which gives me more peace of mind to actually play the game so you it's i think one thing you could do is to uh have almost like uh you can drill all these feints like a sequence of feints and little foot sweeps and all so the grip grip fighting sequence and then some feints and little foot sweeps and all. So the grip fighting sequence and then some feints with foot sweeps so that you can drill them,

not really for the purpose of throwing your opponent, but to gather data. And then I think this is also a good point because a lot of times I've seen in a lot of judo gyms where the senseis will just say, hey, you just got to grab and go, grab and go, which is not really necessarily the best way. You can take your time.

You can be smarter about how you approach Randori and your opponent in a competition. I mean, that old adage of like the best offense is defense. Wait a minute, best defense is a great offense? Yeah. It's true to a certain degree, right? Right. Because if you're constantly only thinking about yours and not thinking about them and

you're just bombarding them with stuff, the other person might back out a little bit, right? Yeah. But it only takes you so far. Right. Right. Right. So you can't just hold on to that.

And then if you're a great athlete, big, strong, fast, all that stuff, been doing judo for 20 years and that's your style, which was my style style up until mid-20s, late-30s, because I was able to play that physicality game. And that's how I was taught. But the older I get, the more strategical and intellectual approach I have to take to sport. Then I have to change that. Yeah. portion i have to take to sport right right right then i have to change that you know yeah yeah yeah i i used to do that too before i started you know i would just spam saving nugget because i was able to catch a lot of people without regard to like you know some people for some people saving nugget

is just not the right answer you know the, right, that you build on somebody is what they do when they're in good position, what they do when they're in bad position. Right. And generally, you put them in a disadvantaged position, collect all the information. Yeah. So you build their profile. Right. And now you can be offensive and just attack and attack and make them just shut down and play full defense. Right.

And just bombarding them and stuff. But then whenever you feel like bringing it down and just fully controlling them, you know exactly everything that they do. So you could play the counter game, but in a strategical way, you know exactly when they're going to go for certain things. For instance, I know some people will go

for a drop Senagi whenever they're outgripped. If they do it consistently, they don't alternate between Tomonage, sumige, drop senage for bailouts. You could consistently try to counter that same move because you know it's coming. Boom, down grip, hand, bang, pull the head down. Guy's going to go for drop senage.

You stuff him and drive him over to the side. So now you could filter them into your offensive system or filter them into a place where you know exactly what they're going to do. So that's really the perfect game because then it gives your opponent zero opportunity to actually score on you ever right right right so that's kind of the way you want to read and then generally you make your assumptions and then you have the first minute to kind of collect that information yeah and then nine times out of ten there's no surprises but you're dedicating maybe 20 of your mind space to like look for that like be aware of that yeah for instance like what is this guy gonna do in desperation will he maybe go for a flying arm bar

like a hail mary never seen it yeah hail mary technique is he gonna do a diving clothesline or soto maybe right so that's like 20 of my mind's there but everything else is already formulated in sort of algorithmic ball balls you know what i mean yeah i see do you have um so we've been talking mostly about judo um but you you have a lot of experience in wrestling and bjj but let's kind of i guess wrestling kind of goes the same way with the hand fighting at all. But what do you think about BJJ? Like how have you, do you do this kind of thing?

Were you taught to do this on the ground too? Like collect data? I think so. I mean, like when you're playing sort of like an open guard position, you know, if the person goes for a knee cut, it's like,

okay, he has a knee cut, a knee shield. And how's he going to go gonna go for it is he gonna jump to the other side you're kind of aware of it right and everyone knows sort of the basic like knee cut backstep knee cut you know floating pass like headquarters whatever it is you know what i mean so like half guard passes like what kind of half guard passes they do and once you log it same idea you know and then if you have your frames and such and your guard retention is very good right you can see what they're doing to try to pass you but

then once they try it you could put them back in between the guard they're probably going to go for it again and then you can sort of try to knee your arm drag whatever it is and try to be ahead of it you know so i think it is kind of a very similar thing you know i think uh it's a little bit slower pace in that way because if you can make a mistake or something then they pass your guard or maybe you can submit it but in training it doesn't it just goes right back right right but in judo you make a mistake you get thrown on your head if you're anticipating on a soto and then you lean back into it and they throw you with something else right like yeah yeah right so the risks are a little bit higher which naturally makes you a little bit higher which naturally

makes you a little bit more tense you know what i mean so i think uh jujitsu has more of that you know reading thing where you're you can take more time to read more yeah yeah yeah think more but it's like blitz versus long form chess oh you yeah you've been hot with those uh chess analogies lately i've been watching chess videos to beat eugene but i could never beat him no wonder no wonder you've been talking a lot about chess but so you talk okay so we can we can kind of we can play the guard and then you know read the opponent but what if you're on top i i'm a top player when it comes to bjj i'm just yeah you know bottom is not like my favorite place so how can i read my opponent from the top like or in someone else's guard yeah yeah so i mean it depends like where you are right

but if they're in a seated guard position you know and like basic telltale physical like cues for instance like if their shoulder is over their hips right they're in a lean right okay this guy's a little bit experienced it's equivalent of like a guy coming out with a proper hand position in stand-up right but if the person's playing seated guard and his chest is directly over their hips it's very easy to just push him back and then put it back on the floor yeah yeah right so immediately it's like okay it opens up that avenue of play you know know what I mean? If I pull their head down, pull their head down,

they're reacting back all the time. Okay, so now what's my strategy there? I'm going to pull their head down, pull their head down, dive in for a body lock. Maybe he's susceptible to that. Let me see if he knows his position now. Pull the head down, pull the head down, bang, body lock. And then maybe I'm good at body lock.

Maybe the guy's good at defending it. Is it something I want to keep pursuing to pass this person and no gi yes no maybe and then if he sucks at it and then you pass and then he retains guard in some way you play that game again because you know you have an advantage there you know but every time you go for a body lock he tries to escape and tries to plot of you you're like okay on the defense get out scramble come back out maybe i won't play that maybe i'll faint you know and then i'll try to go knee cut instead or i try to go floating pass and you're playing this game where you're collecting opponent data you know what i mean right so it applies everywhere bjj judo yeah it's the grappling i guess no i guess if you think about it i i've been playing a lot of tennis lately and it's kind of like that too i guess yeah you know like you start recognizing like tennis is a good one because you know most

people have a great forehand but a terrible backhand yeah i have a terrible backhand i think we all do so it's like if you're playing a beginner yeah probably put it there back in backhand and see how good their backhand is yeah here's one. High backhand. Yeah. If you could put it there consistently, most people are terrible at the high backhand. Yeah. It's just like the most uncomfortable position. Right. So it's like that's a tactic.

That's a strategy. Right, right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting, interesting. And then I guess it happens in chess too. Yeah.

The guy is like very strong and nailing it from really far back. Yeah. And then you go back, back, drop shot. And you have to like scramble up. Whoa, have you played tennis? You play tennis? I didn't know about this. I used to play with my sister when she was on the team in high school.

Oh, okay. I would lose and I'll throw my racket and go home. I'm the sore loser your your attitude is uh you know ripe for pga i'm not pga the whatever the tennis tour a lot of a lot of people a lot of professional players do that it's the most frustrating thing my sister would constantly do the drop shot like stop doing those drop shots it was the most frustrating thing right so so we talked about the strategy how how to read and all but the problem is that okay for when you're visiting another gym you can do this right because a lot of times you don't know what other people do or in competitions you a lot of times you don't know how the other people that your opponent plays

but most of the time when we train we train with the same people over and over again there's nothing to read how can we practice this again there's nothing to read in the you know during regular practice because a lot of times you've played the your teammates your dojo mates multiple many many times so you kind of know them yeah yeah but how can you practice this reading skill that's very very that's a good point it's not so much reading at that point because when you go with someone over and over you kind of know what they do right so you're like trying to pick up certain nuances different entries and stuff this is at a sort of higher level right when you're kind of in the up certain nuances, different entries and stuff. This is at a sort of a higher level, right? When you're kind of in the beginning level, like you do a round,

you don't even remember you do a role. You don't even remember what happened. It's scrambling around survival mode kicks in. The whole thing's a blur. You know what I mean? But then eventually you get to a point where you kind of like replay that game in your mind. You can replay that whole thing.

And then you could go home and be like, how did this guy catch me? George caught Gianni with a tile the other day. How did he do it? Yeah. And then Gianni has to go home and be like how did this guy catch me george caught gianni with a tile the other day how did he do it yeah and then gianni has to go home and it's like okay how did i get caught there what made me do that and then george has to say like i caught him perfectly when he did this can i redo this every single time how do i read that same exact thing i don't want to kind of give it away but like certain times, like he's readjusting for whatever position, like hand position, that's a good time to attack, right?

And it's not just attack, but it's like good time to do a quick misdirection, two thing, you know, one, two attack. You know what I mean? And then having a third after that, for instance, like Kosoro Taiyo. Kosoro Taiyo, they step around at Uchimata, right? But when do you time that?

You know what I mean? If you're in an outside position or inside position, and they're switching to the outside position because you have good position, right? And then when they let go of the Gi to go over, that's your cue to go for this. All three attacks, right? You go for the Taiyo, you go for Kosoro Taiyo.

Kosoro Taiyo, if it doesn't work, you go Uchimata. So you have this three-step attack off of this one cue that you have to be able to read them to recognize when that opening is. You know what I mean? And George hit this perfectly, but did he do it with intent? Kind of. Because we drilled it before. Because I did this thing where Gianni's really

trying to pick up his competitive game and then I was coaching him, I was teaching him and then George was working out with him. 10 minutes, 10 minute rounds, 10 minute rounds. I was like, alright, Gianni, come here. This is what I want you to do here. George, I want you to do this. And then we was coaching him. I was teaching him. And then George was working out with him 10 minutes, 10-minute rounds, 10-minute rounds. I was like, all right, Gianni, come here. This is what I want you to do here. George, I want you to do this. And then we were kind of like playing this little game.

And I gave him a little bit more attention than usual. And then so George was able to hit it. Now it's like now you have to read it and then recognize it. Right, right. When do you think he's going to do this? How can you force that error? It's like tennis. How do you force an error?

Right? do this how can you force that error it's like tennis how do you force an error right and so it's kind of like you know introspectively thinking about it and then reading your opponent but not in the sense that like i'm trying to figure something new out you could always figure some new out right because people get caught and then it's like if i catch someone new with something i don't usually catch somebody with can i repeat that success right right it's almost as if you're like you could you could always create new situations with your uh practice buddies i guess yes yeah at some point if you guys know each other too well you have to change your game like yeah you know i used to happen a lot to me with eugene and anthony like we'll kind of go into a stalemate because we just know each other so well then i'll go back and like you said i'll look back and i like oh what can i

do to go through the stalemate and then i'll try to figure out like an opening yeah maybe i'll i'll ask you for like a suggestion i'll try something i guess in that way you can start you can practice this reading skill yeah yeah so it's like kind of like in striking right yeah if the other person's attacking pepper and stuff and then moving and then fainting and you're like blocking and moving and all this stuff like now all of a sudden you're on the receiving end of it it's hard for you to gain pace because the other person has gained pace first yeah right now you're playing at their own rhythm so in that case you might have to put your hands up back out completely right disengage and then come back out with your hands pepper and so now they're defensive right so you're regaining that pace yeah you know i mean sometimes in geo you have to do this too

like sometimes you see two guys like let's just say you versus usually you guys are playing the same match over and over and over and over and over again right right so every now and then you're getting locked up and you're jockeying for these like inches right yeah in the right versus left position sometimes you have to disengage and just dive in for a body lock and force over under position to show him like hey you know and then that breaks the pattern a little bit yeah so now maybe you dive in for that and then he resists and then you could put your first little bit. Yeah. So now maybe you dive in for that and then he resists. And then you can put your first hand out. Now you have first hand advantage.

And now you have a little bit of a lead. You know what I mean? So like reading like where he's uncomfortable. Maybe you try the Georgian. And obviously you have to drill Georgian or new positions and stuff. Right. But you have to kind of find some of those weaknesses too. You know, and you have to be able to play a different game every now and then

and deviate from your original pattern plan you know what i mean i see yeah so sometimes i'll do that with like the lighter guys i'll force like a very heavy over under situation and i'm usually heavier than most guys i work out with yeah so that's like uncomfortable for them right right because i'm just using my body weight yeah yeah yeah so that's kind of a nice way to sort of break their pattern a little bit and be like oh shit i really don't want him diving onto my hips he's so heavy and fat or whatever right so it's like heavy and muscular yeah and then they're worried about that and they take like a little bit more hips back position yeah and then it's a lot easier to access the lapels and then pull your head down. Right. So it's like reading that, like are they scared of this?

If I try this new position, what are their reactions? How are they reacting? If they hate it, if they try to disengage the whole time, that tells me something, that they don't want to be there. Right. Which is like a weakness that I'm like sensing, right? And maybe they're baiting me and then they're letting me in and then maybe they wrestled greco and then you know they're gonna lock in suplex yeah yeah suplex maybe but generally that's the statistics kind of tell me no that they don't have that and if they even

if they do if they are able to do that you that's another thing to read like yeah and that's my 20 of my mind is dedicated to that kind of a thing yeah right maybe they go for a flying kanibasami or something maybe it's egregious but maybe just in case right right right right yeah so you have to kind of dedicate your mind just like yeah somewhat to what they're doing and doing that and then most of your offensive stuff has to be automated yeah and that dedicates a certain percentage to like things that may happen that you've seen before that you don't quite see from this person but maybe they might do yeah in desperation yeah that that's a good suggestion. And I think one thing I'd like to emphasize again is that you talked a lot about things that go through your mind. And they may sound overwhelming to a lot of people especially if you're just starting out but i'll

say uh shintaro is able to do this because a lot of these thought processes have been automated for him because he it's like um it's like a subconscious level of thinking now right a lot of things pattern recognition and that just comes with time so what you could do is you can kind of start with like small things it'll be hard and then you have to make a conscious effort in the beginning but one by one these things will be automated and then you'll be able to get deeper and then read the opponent you know at a deeper level and all yeah the biggest roi is understanding where you're in dominant position where you're not in dominant position because we're in dominant position the likelihood of you getting bombed is less especially if you're going with someone not as strong as you're not as

big as you right so if you're going against someone smaller than you weaker than you and you're in dominant position you can read them easily because yeah you have time yeah they show this they show that they show tomonage you stuff it this guy got tomonage. This guy has Kochi. Is he able to link the two moves together? Mm-hmm. Right. Most of the time, under brown belt, no. Yeah. Good brown belt, maybe.

A good black belt, definitely. They'll link those two together. Yeah. So how many moves can they link together successfully? How good are those independent attacks? All those things you kind of little by little, you know. Right. Yeah.

So that's the way to read somebody little by little, you know, right? Yeah, so that's that's the way to read somebody I think you know that that's a good point because I What at my BJJ school now a lot of people ask me like ask me to show some judo moves and I actually don't show Any throw I just tell them grip fighting and say okay go do that Yeah, if that that would be the best thing to do. Yeah for now Yeah, if you show them tile and then they're gripping up 50-50, they're not going to be able to throw anybody with it. Right.

But if they're super dominant and then they try Taiyo, I think potentially. But you want to know what the most important telltale sign when you're reading someone, first thing you should notice. What? Is their cauliflower ear.

Do they have cauliflower ear? That is a good, yeah. If someone's like, hey, you want to roll or whatever it is and then they don't have cauliflower here i'm immediately gonna like assume like okay you know yeah he's he's got some mad time under his belt yeah if they have cauliflower yeah yeah 100 i'm like this guy's experienced how about uh how about how uh how dirty well like the fit of the gi you know like i always go for that like you know some people without cauliflower but they've you know have a lot of mad time it they just the their geese just fit differently yeah and then they the way they tie their belt

oh yeah so what you're telling me is that when I go visit a new gym, I don't really have cauliflower, so I should bring my oversized baggy gi, and then I should tie my belt, my fresh white belt, and I don't even know how they actually do it. It's got to be too long. It's got to be one size too big, and then it's like hanging down to your knees.

Yeah. And no double knots, It's got to be too long. It's got to be one size too big. And then it's like hanging down to your knees. Yeah. Right. And not, no double knots. And then like, yeah, on the stick into the, you know,

instead of horizontal, but vertical, then I can, no one can read me. Cool. All right. I think we've covered a lot about reading your opponent. Anything else we missed?

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