The Shintaro Higashi Show - Reinier de Ridder - ONE Middleweight World Champion

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

In this special episode, Shintaro sits down with ONE Middleweight World Champion Reinier de Ridder (RdR) to talk about his lifelong martial arts journey that started with Judo and his current journey ...as an MMA champion. RdR also talks about his upcoming submission grappling superfight with Tye Ruotolo at ONE Fight Night 10 on May 5, 2023. Join our Discord server and start chatting with us and other grapplers by supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Shintaro Higashi Show with Peter Yu. Before we jump into the main episode, I just wanted to give a big shout out to our official sponsor, LeVon. Thank you so much for your support. And now to the main episode. Welcome back to the Shintaro Higashi Show, Peter Yu. Today, we're going to talk to Viniere de Ritter, or as they call them, RDR. He is the current double one lightweight heavyweight champion of the world, which is amazing.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Thank you for being here with me, RDR. They call you RDR, right? The Americans call me RDR. It's easier for you guys. RDR, yeah. Okay, so let's start from the beginning. I heard you were a judo champion. Is this correct?
Starting point is 00:00:40 You started off with judo? To be honest, I didn't do that good in judo. I always did judo as a kid. Trained until I was like 15, 16. Nice. Got like some national stuff, national championship. Never really got that far. Amazing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Judo's great. Where, in the Netherlands? Yeah, in the Netherlands. Oh, nice. I thought this guy Hank Grohl, do you know him? Okay. He's chipped. Very good. Am I right? No, no, judo, judo. I don't do MMA.. Oh, nice. I thought this guy, Hank Grohl, do you know him? Yeah. He's chipped. Very good.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Am I right? No, no, Judo, Judo. I don't do MMA. Judo, okay. You see how pretty his face is? I can get punched. You're right. I've been training
Starting point is 00:01:15 with Satoshi Ishii for the last couple of days. Oh, that's right because he's down in New Wave as well, right? Yeah, yeah. Nice. So you're right now
Starting point is 00:01:23 currently in Texas training for your upcoming grappling submission match with Ty R as well, right? Yeah. Nice. So you're right now currently in Texas training for your upcoming grappling submission match with Ty Ruitolo, right? So how's that going? Can you tell us a little bit about that? It's a fucking handful every time I come here, man. Yeah. It's very cool.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I get to learn stuff from these people. It really helped me a lot. The body feels like shit, but the mind is very sharp. Nice. I feel very ready, getting close. Gotcha. So what is your training regimen looking like right now, leading up to, I guess you call it fight camp, right?
Starting point is 00:01:59 I mean, it's a little bit different from MMA because you're doing specifically submission grappling for, right, one fight. Yeah, so I do a little bit different from MMA because you're doing specifically submission grappling for right one fight so I do a little striking I always do with just just to keep uh so I do my drills I've been doing my drills for um the entire I do a little bit of sparring like once a week maybe part like once a week maybe um but all the rest is uh grappling twice a day nice here it's very technique focused of course learn a lot of new stuff i was here um a month ago as well so in the meanwhile i've been working on the stuff he told me, he showed me. And it's a crazy blessing, man, just to be welcome here. Yeah. I'd be happy to have me over, to have, like, in minds like that,
Starting point is 00:02:55 putting time in, really investing in me. It's a huge honor. Awesome. So Tyro Tolo, you versus him, Submission Grappling, May 5th. It's a Friday night. You. So Tyro Tolo, you versus him, submission grappling, May 5th, right? It's a Friday night. You can watch it on Amazon Prime, right? It's a 1FC debut, right, on U.S. soil in Denver, correct? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I think mine is a prelim, so I think you can even watch mine on YouTube just like that. Oh, that's amazing. So I think all of our viewers are very, very excited to do that. So in terms of like preparation for this match, because a lot of our listeners, a lot of our viewers is grappling related, what sort of things are you specifically working on going into this thing? Yeah, I'm working on my strengths of course. My, my takedown game is, is is is very important to me so um i think that's where um what's it
Starting point is 00:03:50 going to be important in this game he likes it yeah to play on top so it's gonna be a heavy heavy heavy stand-up battle in the first few minutes yeah i think there are some advantages for me when I get close to the cage so we'll see if I yeah see if I can throw the guy around maybe nice that's exciting stuff man
Starting point is 00:04:15 so correct me if I'm wrong like there's no guard pulling in this right the rule set is no guard pulling I think that I think he can I think he can pull guard oh okay he might like last time yeah every time I got close to some good grips on the stand-up, he pulled, which is something that he does normally, but it's not something he does either. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:40 So I'm curious to see what his choices are. He might pull. So I've been working on my hard passing as well. Gotcha, gotcha. So you're primarily working with Ishii and Gordon also in the room as well? Yeah, but I'm focused on the smaller guys because Ishii is a big dude. He's 110 kilos.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Gordon is around that weight. So they are very useful, of course, but I focus on the smaller guys, smaller, explosive, dynamic guys like Ty. Because you're a pretty heavier guy yourself, right? Yeah, I walk around like 95,
Starting point is 00:05:20 96 kilos. Okay, yeah. 210, 210. Okay, that's great. But Ty's a little bit lighter am i right okay that's really cool is there a catch weight that you guys have to make weight at all or it's he's coming to my weight so he's coming to 93 oh that's excellent not too much weight cuts not really a factor here no it's good i think he is fully focused on grappling so makes it kind of fair too that he's a bit small. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Do you have sort of a game plan that you're already going in with? Obviously, you don't have to share it. You don't have to share it if you don't want to. There's some positions I think I can really do some damage in. I've learned so much here, man. So many new stuff which I've been implementing into my game and it's just i'm really keen to show off all the stuff i've learned really keen to represent the guys here and show off some of my skills nice so when you're training right you learn a little
Starting point is 00:06:21 bit of the stuff you drill a little bit of the stuff and you try to implement it in your live roles right away immediately and you try to force some position that you're training, right, you learn a little bit of this stuff, you drill a little bit of this stuff, and you try to implement it in your live roles right away, immediately? And you try to force some position that you're trying to work something out of? Is that how you generally do it? Yeah. So I've always approached it like that. I'm not a big thing. So people see me like going crazy,
Starting point is 00:06:44 practicing one move for 10 for for 10 minutes 20 minutes whatever i've always as soon as i can as soon as i understand the technique i try to get it into life sparring right away what i do is i practice it on lower level guys. I think I can get it done on pretty easily. If it succeeds at that, then I bring it to guys a bit better. I try to level up the technique like that. Nice. That's an amazing thing. I think it's a good approach for all. Can you tell us a little bit about your experience with going against And Gaval, which was like a super fight that you recently did?
Starting point is 00:07:29 I know you briefly mentioned it. You know, people know Gaval. So like we're dying to know about it. You know, some people have seen it. Just your thoughts on it, your takeaways. So, of course, it was very cool to get the opportunity. It goes, this thing goes for a time. I'm not even a grappler and I get to face some of the best guys in the world.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's crazy. It's a huge, it's a very cool opportunity. And I'm very proud that I was able to hold my own against a guy like that. Who is bigger, stronger. Who is a legend in the grappling game yeah sure i'm proud that i was able to to do as i did um but of course it wasn't the result i was aiming for but um um as it became a time um but at that point i had like it was three weeks after MMA three weeks after my time flew halfway across the world twice
Starting point is 00:08:31 didn't really have time to focus on grappling like two weeks to get a couple of grappling sessions in but now I've been fully focused on grappling for four months so I think I'm reaching new But now I've been fully focused on grappling for four months. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:45 So I think I'm reaching new heights. Yeah, it's just so exciting to finally start off now. So when you're approaching grappling in a training setting, are you always thinking how this can implement your MMA game or are you just purely focused on pure grappling? Right now it's pure grappling it's all in preparation for so it's very different
Starting point is 00:09:09 a couple ways the way they transition here the way they control they have so many more steps because they have time to control they have time to you know. The match is to control. They have time to tire somebody out.
Starting point is 00:09:28 In MMA, normally when I get the guy to the floor, if I get them early, I might have like three minutes left to finish them. Yeah, sure. They can last three minutes. They get up and they get another chance at me. So I always have to hurry i always i'm always fighting the opponent but fighting the clock at the same time that's very true yeah for sure yeah when you're getting punches involved too it's a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:09:55 different story you know you can't like hold on to certain positions right definitely so um so it's very different the approach right now is very different, but it's cool to really be leveling up my grappling, which has been a long while, to be honest. Yeah. I've always been focused on the takedowns, the shootboxing, the kickboxing. So it's very cool to be really, really, really dialing in on my grappling.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Do you ever look at positions that are never apparent in MMA, but very apparent in submission? Like, for instance, like a deep half, you never see that in MMA because you get your face blasted in, right? So, like, is that something that you specifically want to work on during these times just because you may encounter that position? Or not really? Not really because it's not that likely that it's going to happen in this match.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Oh, yeah, this match specifically, yeah. Oh, that's a not that likely that it's going to happen in this match. Oh, yeah. This match specifically. Yeah. Oh, that's a good way to approach it, man. So I'm very, very focused on just this guy, this match. And it's those positions I've worked on in the past. And of course, I'm working on the leg locks here with John. Nice.
Starting point is 00:11:00 He's good at that here. He's all right. Yeah. But my focus is on my own strengths. I'm focused on my takedowns. I'm focused on my ability to get guys down, to wear people out, to get my weight on them. I'm focused on passing.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah. Have you watched some of his tape? Like, you know, a lot. like you know a lot do you do a lot of tape work too or yeah and are there some of the things that you saw in his tape work that you know obviously you don't have to tell us everything you know obviously you have a match coming up right but like uh some of the strengths that watch out for some of his weaknesses like can you get give a little bit of uh insider information on that? Yeah, definitely. Like, I think everybody who's seen his tape,
Starting point is 00:11:48 you can basically think everybody has the same opinion, right? He's very, very explosive. Great athlete, yeah. He can get you from anywhere. But the good thing is he kind of needs a takedown. He needs, like, he likes
Starting point is 00:12:04 the Uchimata. He likes his single attacks. And it's not that easy to take me down. I rarely, rarely, rarely get down. My judo base, I think I have a good shot at stopping him. Yeah. Taking him, throwing him a bit maybe. Nice.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Who knows? Yeah, yeah. Very exciting stuff. We're all going to it then, man. a bit maybe. Nice. Who knows? Yeah, yeah. Very exciting stuff. We're all going to it then, man. We're rooting for you. So after judo, right, you transitioned into BJJ right away when you were 15, 16 years old? So it was like, yes, it was that age.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Like other things got more interesting, girls, party. Oh, yeah, yeah. For a couple of years. I think we all did, you know. How old are you now by the way i'm 32 okay great but then i moved to a new city to start my studies and that found i was looking for a judo gym um to a jiu-jitsu gym because it wasn't really good there yeah and um in the netherlands in the netherlands and i went to a gym there with my judo knowledge and beat everybody pretty easily the guy who taught there didn't want to roll with me i was like fuck this shit this
Starting point is 00:13:20 gets bullshit jiu-jitsu i'm never coming back yeah and somebody else told me you should come to this gym this is a one um so i with him i was just getting choked out by small people yes any brazilian guys blue, they were choking me up. Yeah. I was. There's all this time right there, right? If you figure out. I was amazed, man. Yeah. I'm there and jiu jitsu turned into MMA pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But jiu jitsu has always been my first love. Wow. And you still consistently train obviously. Do you ever train in a gi at all or no? Yeah, I really like to train in a gi. Oh, shoot. Okay. I grew up in a gi with judo.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I always trained as a kid in a gi. Yeah. I still really like to train in a gi, like a couple days a week. But I'm preparing for a fight. I kind of tone it down a bit to like once a week. But I always go to a gi every once in a while. All right, so I'm going to ask a simple question that everyone asks, sort of a basic question, but everyone loves asking this question, like, all right, what's the difference between gi
Starting point is 00:14:30 and no gi? Your specific take on it. You know, we all know, right? Gi has gi, no gi has no gi, distance, whatever. But let's hear your opinion on this. So what I like, I'll tell you what I like about training in the Gi is that it slows it down a bit and gives you a bit more time to think stuff through. So in no Gi, you kind of react from a different different level especially if you're training with a guy of your
Starting point is 00:15:07 your level um it has to fire right away it has to happen right away you have to react um without even thinking about it and in the geeky you have a bit more time to think about it which is nice which is good too absolutely it's kind of like blitz chess and regular chess right just the speed of it you know and friction a little bit of a factor in it nice so you transitioned into mma when you initially started off you had great success right away like how was that about what was that about like did you love it well tell us a little bit about those days did you feel judo was useful yeah definitely it still is i still it's uh it's a big advantage every time i train i'm still uh still very happy to have that in me as well um so i took an amateur fight
Starting point is 00:15:57 and eventually after like training for a couple of months in mma and um i in MMA and I was very very very stressful. Yeah. It was like what the fuck am I getting into. I was studying at the time, I'm a physical therapist. Oh really that's awesome. My cousin's a physical therapist. Yeah. Yeah what a great occupation.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah it's always been a good combination with the rest of my life. Oh absolutely. Do you still practice? Not as much anymore. Just a little bit. I do some ultrasound investigations, but not as much as I used to. But I still own the practice, so I'm around it. But was it like a hurdle to pass?
Starting point is 00:16:44 Do you say that? A hurdle to jump over? Yeah, for sure, yeah. Obstacle, I don't know. Yeah, something like there's a milestone in this. Because I was doing internships and studying and stuff. I don't want to show up with a black eye every week. So it was very stressful in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Took an amateur fight. Just ran in, took the guy down, choked him out pretty easily. Nice. Yes. And it was weird because there was no strikes on the floor at that time. And it was in Belgium. Which fight, there were no ground strikes, no ground fights. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That's kind of interesting how that is and it's still the rules are still different everywhere because in belgium you can't throw elbows or whatever oh interesting and um so i said fuck this shit i want to do a pro fight took a couple pro fights yeah pretty Yeah. Pretty well as well. Nice. Building fighting in Europe. Eventually go to South Africa, fight, fought there as well. Um, and, um, I got a chance to fight for one. That's my career so far.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah. And you were the middleweight champion for a little bit, right? I'm the middleweight champ. I just lost my light heavyweight belt in December. Yes. And that to the Malikins? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I messed up for the first time, dropped the ball.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Oh, man. Well, it sucks, of course, but it's interesting for now. It's a real interesting thing to be working on and come back this time. So, I is the first, and hopefully I'm going to make this a good year. Nice. How do you handle loss?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Everyone handles it differently. I know guys who disappear for a little bit. I know guys who are right back the next day, working on stuff. I know guys who just don't even push next day, like working on stuff. Like, I know guys who just don't even like push it out of their minds. Like, you know? So how do you handle that?
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's on my mind every day. I don't, it pushes out of my mind. It's on my mind every day. I went straight back to training. Went straight back to work. And I have two kids.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Nice. How old are they? Two and four great age yeah great age yeah it's very cool um so one of the first thoughts i had was like are they still okay are they still happy doesn't the result doesn't really matter that much yeah well they still love me of course yeah wow that's got to be emotional too right like i know adesanya just beat that guy perera and then their kids is watching and they're crying and brutal right that's brutal well my not that old, so they didn't watch the fight happily. But it's the way I felt. It sucks for me, but it's just me. Come on. The kids are fine. I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Good. And then, so how many more, what does your future look like in terms of like, how far do you want to take it? You know, you're 32 years old. I know, you know, people have longevity in the sport, but like, what is the next thing that you want to do? I know Ty would pose right in around the corner, so we're all rooting for you, watching you there. But after that, you know, do you think bigger? Like, what are your goals long term? Yeah, so it's Ty
Starting point is 00:20:17 first, which is May 5th. And what would be good is defend my middleweight title in July and get the rematch end of the year. Nice. That's amazing. And Natalie? Oh, wow. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I need to get that one back. Yeah. And so those fights are all, where are they going to be? Do you know yet? No, I don't know yet. we'll figure it out after time um but i think good success this far um one in in because they sold out the venue like in a couple of weeks yeah the buzz or a lot of hype going into it tons yeah i think pretty con so maybe they'll come back to the states yeah i think so i had a conversation with chakri maybe like uh you know two days ago and he was saying like hey we're
Starting point is 00:21:12 doing like 12 with amazon you know things like this you know i could share it because he said it on a public platform right he said they could probably just do a dozen of these guys in the united states and you know english they've been talking about it for a while too, but it's actually here. Yes. If everyone goes well, I think they'll do some work. Yeah, that's exciting. You know, you're an English speaker too, so your fan base is going to grow, you know, really, really big here.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Because a lot of the American fans, are they involved so much? Like right now, one is not as visible as some of the other organizations in the U. US, correct? That's definitely true. Yeah. So do you have a lot of a big fan base here in the United States? I think it's growing, but now with the Amazon, it's been live for, I think, half a year or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And now with the first events here, I think it's going to grow. Can you go to the mall right now and people stop you like, oh my god it's rdr people are running up to you it's not like that yet no no i'm safe i'm safe i'm safe here if back home and then asia i have a problem oh could you imagine you in japan because japan loves this stuff right oh man so they're gonna be they're all over you oh my god you're the guy and that's a dream man i would really. So they're going to be, they're all over you. Oh, my God, you're the guy. And that's a dream, man. I would really, really love to fight in Tokyo one day. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Japan is, you know, I'm sure because we're around the same age, right? You probably grew up watching Pride. Yeah, definitely. All the guys in K-1. Yes, yeah, yeah. What was your favorite fighter back then when you were a kid? Yes, yeah, yeah. What was your favorite fighter back then when you were a kid? Well, to be honest, I got into it a bit later
Starting point is 00:22:49 because I was a pretty clean-cut guy. I didn't get to know it too much, but there's a long list of guys man there's been so many dutch fighters and far like i'm someone as i'm i mean like alistair over in gager musashi oh that's right yeah musashi over those are great fighters yeah nice oh there's this active right i think i've seen yeah yeah um so alistair just had a kickboxing match you beat but i mean oh that's another one he's another one too that's been around for a very long time yeah um and um get guard is still going strong. Yeah. By the Paris and may I train a lot with him, with get guard and with Costello's shit.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. Do you want that kind of fame in the United States? People like, oh my God, RDR, people running up to you, bothering you for photos. You want that? That's that's not a goal. That's not a goal. No.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So what do you get out of martial arts the most? What is your favorite thing about it? so what do you get out of martial arts the most what is your favorite thing about it what I really like about fighting I think that goes like anything I really like in life is you're doing it, it's the only thing
Starting point is 00:24:16 in the world it's nothing like when that cage door closes nothing else exists the guy in front of you and that's it Nothing like when that cage door closes, nothing else exists. The guy in front of you, and that's it. No other thoughts. There's no bills.
Starting point is 00:24:35 There's no other distractions. There's no thinking about anything else. That's good. Yeah, this guy is trying to hurt you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's like training, but it's uh right because when you work when you're when you're on the map you're not thinking about what you're doing right then and yeah really in the moment mindful or whatever you want to call that but in the cage it's amplified by a thousand
Starting point is 00:25:01 nice can you tell us like a little bit like when you in training, because you're a physical therapist, right? Like I said, my cousin's a physical therapist. He's a black belt at my judo school. And people always bother him, like, hey, man, can you look at my shoulder? Hey, can you look at my neck? And he's like, I'm freaking training here, man. Does that ever happen to you? Physical therapist, right?
Starting point is 00:25:19 I'll tweak my knee. It's like, man, I'm doing rolls right now. Got to be annoying. Well, they know. They know. now like gotta be annoying well they know they know in the gym back home they know how how so all right can you give us a judo story from back of the day um well it's it's just it's how i grew up man um i think back to my youth, I've always seen myself in the car with my dad, driving somewhere on the weekend, like some obscure tournament. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I was always, then already, I was always just motivated to the bone. I wanted to beat everybody, anybody, and nothing really changed. I was always crazy upset if I didn't win. Yeah. And it changed. So, it's my foundation. Yeah. What are your favorite throws?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Haragoshi. Haragoshi, wow. Are you lefty or righty? Righty. Righty, Haragoshi. You're tall, so you go over the back? Yeah. Do you have any favorite setups?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. So I sweep the leg, you know, let them step. And in MMA, it's a great combo with like a good knee to the body. Oh, yeah. Like a whizzer or if I get an underhook, they turn, like if they turn off the cage or whatever, I hit them with a knee, they step, and then I get the haragoshi.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I really like that. Yeah, that's like a much more serious setup than like a foot sweep, you know? Like a foot sweep, hurray, it's like, okay, you kind of see it coming, but like you get kneed in the stomach, you're like, holy moly, and then you blast them with hurray, right?
Starting point is 00:27:02 You ever do judo anymore? I mean, I guess you're training in a gi sometimes, right, if you're doing jiu-jitsu? Yeah, so I train, like, takedowns in the gi. I would like to. Yeah. It would be something I would do, but there's not a lot of time for it right now.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I would in the future. Do you wrestle at all? Just, like, purebred wrestling, freestyle, collegiate? Yeah, we wrestle a lot we have uh some good um uh roman wrestlers in the gym back home nice we wrestle a lot with them yeah and then we wrestle specifically for mma with gloves and against the cage you know oh yeah that's good stuff that's good so how long are you in the united States now for? For a month. All the way up to the actual fighting? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 So I'll spend a little over a week. And then I'll fly out to Denver. Nice. Because of the altitude, they tell me you have to be in. Yeah. Is it at the Olympic Training Center area? Because there's an Olympic Training Center over there, right? In Denver?
Starting point is 00:28:02 No? No. I have to still book an Airbnb and stuff. Oh, right? Endeavor? No? No. I have to still book an Airbnb and stuff. Oh, you have to book an Airbnb. I'm too well prepared. Yeah. Yeah, you got to go a week out because that air is so thin over there. You know?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Yeah. So I've got three weeks. Three weeks in advance. Yeah. Hopefully, that's going to come. That's a great time, yeah. I remember, like, when I did judo over there, the French team came, like came three or four days before,
Starting point is 00:28:25 and they were dying. They're like wheezing, you know, because it's hard to breathe up there, you know what I mean? Yeah, a lot of people tell me it feels like... Yeah. So what do you want some of your American fans that are up and coming, who's going to look at you up now, watch you on, like something about you
Starting point is 00:28:41 that you want them to know? I hope that they get a chance to watch what I do, to watch the stuff I do well, throw people around, choke them out, hopefully. Yeah, choke them out. And then watch my comeback story this year yeah that's exciting times yeah I love how one like builds that up
Starting point is 00:29:08 right like Demetrius Johnson story best two out of three this is the third one that they're gonna do I love how they build that up and you know it's gonna be really exciting right watching you come back those two fights were cool right yeah very cool
Starting point is 00:29:22 yeah the knee uh yeah yeah it's an exciting one and then as rota as well yeah the comment which is cool yeah hopefully the americans like um we talked a bit as well oh yeah yeah it's gonna be amazing yeah so all right two more questions uh what would you say to like a young judoka or a grappler listening to this? What would you say? Give them advice from a guy who's 32, has success in the sport, successful grappler, period, right, and fighter, martial artist.
Starting point is 00:29:55 What would you say to that kid? Do more. Do more. That's it. All of it. Do more. Do more. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:30:04 It's always all the of it. Do more. Do more. Keep going. It's always all the guys I train back home, I have a lot of younger guys coming up, a lot of kids coming to the gym. Don't listen to normal people, what normal people tell you. Don't listen to it. Rest a day. Take a day off.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That's all bullshit. Keep going. Go harder. Do more. You ever have a girlfriend that's like, come on, stay in bed. Don't go to morning training. You ever have one of those? Of course. You did, right?
Starting point is 00:30:32 Of course. You didn't marry her, did you? Awesome. That's great advice. Yeah, it's awesome advice, man. All right, one more. So what has martial arts taught you? Everything, man.
Starting point is 00:30:47 If you were to distill it down to one sentence, like your thing, like this is martial arts to me, what is it? It's a very good question. What it's given me is a purpose. That's the most valuable thing for me. it's really helped me put my life in order all in all aspects of my life and i think that's an important thing to remember as well you can do more um it's um it's a mistake to fall into it. Just thinking the only thing I can do is get good at training and forget the rest.
Starting point is 00:31:27 You build every part of your life. Build your social life. You got to build your love life. Build your work, your businesses, whatever you do. And your training as well. Nice. It doesn't have to be like that. You don't have to just show up in the gym twice a day
Starting point is 00:31:46 and the rest of the day you're sitting at home watching some bullshit Netflix story. Yeah. You can do more. You can build every particle of it. True. Love that, man. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I'm sure I'm going to share with everybody this podcast, this thing. I'm going to put it on social. I'm going to tag you in all of it. Right? You have Instagram? Yeah. Awesome. All all right thank you very much for being on and uh yeah best of luck may 5th you want to plug your thing how can we watch it may yeah go ahead uh youtube i think i think you can watch mine on youtube still and then after that on Amazon Prime. It's in Denver.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So watch me. Watch me do it. Yeah. RDR. Thank you, Shantan. Thank you very much. You're in judo already. Yeah, she is.
Starting point is 00:32:34 She is. Oh, really? Yeah. But, you know, I'm trying to make it fun for her. I'm not trying to stress her out about it. You know what I mean? If she wants to do it, I want to help her do it. You know, I'm lifelong judoka. You know, so.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, yours? No, not yet i'm the four-year-old is a girl okay is a boy yeah um my girl has it's gonna take some time before she's uh really gonna step on the mat see yeah she's at the gym of course she's always watching me train, but I'm not too sure how quick she's joined. Yeah. But my boy is already there. He already wants to train right now. That's exciting, man. Yeah, my daughter loves dance. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I love it. Love it. That's the best, man. Good for you, man. Awesome.

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