The Shintaro Higashi Show - Reinier de Ridder - ONE Middleweight World Champion
Episode Date: April 17, 2023In this special episode, Shintaro sits down with ONE Middleweight World Champion Reinier de Ridder (RdR) to talk about his lifelong martial arts journey that started with Judo and his current journey ...as an MMA champion. RdR also talks about his upcoming submission grappling superfight with Tye Ruotolo at ONE Fight Night 10 on May 5, 2023. Join our Discord server and start chatting with us and other grapplers by supporting us on Patreon:Â https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!
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Welcome back to the Shintaro Higashi Show, Peter Yu.
Today, we're going to talk to Viniere de Ritter, or as they call them, RDR.
He is the current double one lightweight heavyweight champion of the world,
which is amazing.
Thank you for being here with me, RDR.
They call you RDR, right?
The Americans call me RDR.
It's easier for you guys.
RDR, yeah.
Okay, so let's start from the beginning.
I heard you were a judo champion.
Is this correct?
You started off with judo?
To be honest, I didn't do that good in judo.
I always did judo as a kid.
Trained until I was like 15, 16.
Nice.
Got like some national stuff, national championship.
Never really got that far.
Amazing, yeah.
Judo's great.
Where, in the Netherlands?
Yeah, in the Netherlands.
Oh, nice.
I thought this guy Hank Grohl, do you know him?
Okay.
He's chipped. Very good. Am I right? No, no, judo, judo. I don't do MMA.. Oh, nice. I thought this guy, Hank Grohl, do you know him? Yeah. He's chipped.
Very good.
Am I right?
No, no, Judo, Judo.
I don't do MMA.
Judo, okay.
You see how pretty his face is?
I can get punched.
You're right.
I've been training
with Satoshi Ishii
for the last couple of days.
Oh, that's right
because he's down
in New Wave as well, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Nice.
So you're right now
currently in Texas
training for your upcoming grappling submission match with Ty R as well, right? Yeah. Nice. So you're right now currently in Texas training for your upcoming grappling submission match
with Ty Ruitolo, right?
So how's that going?
Can you tell us a little bit about that?
It's a fucking handful every time I come here, man.
Yeah.
It's very cool.
I get to learn stuff from these people.
It really helped me a lot.
The body feels like shit, but the mind is very sharp.
Nice.
I feel very ready, getting close.
Gotcha.
So what is your training regimen looking like right now,
leading up to, I guess you call it fight camp, right?
I mean, it's a little bit different from MMA
because you're doing specifically submission grappling for, right, one fight. Yeah, so I do a little bit different from MMA because you're doing specifically submission grappling for
right one fight so I do a little striking I always do with just just to keep uh so I do my drills I've been doing my drills for um the entire I do a little bit of sparring like once a week maybe
part like once a week maybe um but all the rest is uh grappling twice a day nice here
it's very technique focused of course learn a lot of new stuff i was here um a month ago as well
so in the meanwhile i've been working on the stuff he told me, he showed me. And it's a crazy blessing, man, just to be welcome here.
Yeah.
I'd be happy to have me over, to have, like, in minds like that,
putting time in, really investing in me.
It's a huge honor.
Awesome.
So Tyro Tolo, you versus him, Submission Grappling, May 5th. It's a Friday night. You. So Tyro Tolo, you versus him, submission grappling, May 5th, right?
It's a Friday night.
You can watch it on Amazon Prime, right?
It's a 1FC debut, right, on U.S. soil in Denver, correct?
Definitely.
I think mine is a prelim, so I think you can even watch mine on YouTube just like that.
Oh, that's amazing.
So I think all of our viewers are very, very excited to do that.
So in terms of like preparation for this match, because a lot of our listeners, a
lot of our viewers is grappling related, what sort of things are you specifically
working on going into this thing?
Yeah, I'm working on my strengths of course.
My, my takedown game is, is is is very important to me so um i think that's where um what's it
going to be important in this game he likes it yeah to play on top so it's gonna be a heavy
heavy heavy stand-up battle in the first few minutes yeah
i think there are some advantages for me
when I get close to the cage
so we'll see if I
yeah
see if I can throw the guy around
maybe nice that's exciting stuff man
so correct me if I'm wrong like there's no guard
pulling in this right the rule set is no guard
pulling I think that I think
he can I think he can pull guard oh okay
he might like last time yeah every time I got close to some good grips on the stand-up,
he pulled, which is something that he does normally,
but it's not something he does either.
Yeah, for sure.
So I'm curious to see what his choices are.
He might pull.
So I've been working on my hard passing as well.
Gotcha, gotcha.
So you're primarily working with Ishii and Gordon also in the room as well?
Yeah, but I'm focused on the smaller guys
because Ishii is a big dude.
He's 110 kilos.
Gordon is around that weight.
So they are very useful, of course, but
I focus on the smaller guys,
smaller, explosive,
dynamic
guys like Ty.
Because you're a pretty heavier guy yourself, right?
Yeah, I walk around like 95,
96 kilos.
Okay, yeah.
210, 210. Okay, that's great.
But Ty's a little bit lighter am i right okay that's really cool is there a catch weight that you guys have to make weight at all or
it's he's coming to my weight so he's coming to 93 oh that's excellent not too much weight
cuts not really a factor here no it's good i think he is fully focused on grappling so
makes it kind of fair too that he's a bit small.
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you have sort of a game plan that you're already going in with?
Obviously, you don't have to share it.
You don't have to share it if you don't want to.
There's some positions I think I can really do some damage in.
I've learned so much here, man.
So many new stuff which I've been implementing into my game
and it's just i'm really keen to show off all the stuff i've learned really keen to represent
the guys here and show off some of my skills nice so when you're training right you learn a little
bit of the stuff you drill a little bit of the stuff and you try to implement it in your live
roles right away immediately and you try to force some position that you're training, right, you learn a little bit of this stuff, you drill a little bit of this stuff, and you try to implement it in your live roles right away, immediately?
And you try to force some position that you're trying to work something out of?
Is that how you generally do it?
Yeah.
So I've always approached it like that.
I'm not a big thing.
So people see me like going crazy,
practicing one move for 10 for for 10 minutes 20
minutes whatever i've always as soon as i can as soon as i understand the technique i try to get
it into life sparring right away what i do is i practice it on lower level guys. I think I can get it done on pretty easily.
If it succeeds at that, then I bring it to guys a bit better.
I try to level up the technique like that.
Nice. That's an amazing thing.
I think it's a good approach for all.
Can you tell us a little bit about your experience with going against And Gaval, which was like a super fight that you recently did?
I know you briefly mentioned it.
You know, people know Gaval.
So like we're dying to know about it.
You know, some people have seen it.
Just your thoughts on it, your takeaways.
So, of course, it was very cool to get the opportunity.
It goes, this thing goes for a time.
I'm not even a grappler and I get to face some of the best guys in the world.
It's crazy.
It's a huge, it's a very cool opportunity.
And I'm very proud that I was able to hold my own against a guy like that.
Who is bigger, stronger.
Who is a legend in the grappling game yeah sure i'm proud that i was able to to do as i did um but of course it wasn't the result i
was aiming for but um um as it became a time um but at that point i had like it was three weeks after MMA
three weeks after my time
flew halfway across the world twice
didn't really have time to
focus on grappling
like two weeks to
get a couple of grappling sessions in
but now
I've been fully focused
on grappling for four months
so I think I'm reaching new But now I've been fully focused on grappling for four months. Wow.
So I think I'm reaching new heights.
Yeah, it's just so exciting to finally start off now.
So when you're approaching grappling in a training setting,
are you always thinking how this can implement your MMA game
or are you just purely focused on pure grappling?
Right now it's pure grappling
it's all in preparation for
so it's very different
a couple ways
the way they transition
here the way they
control
they have so many more steps
because they have time
to control they have time to you know. The match is to control.
They have time to tire somebody out.
In MMA, normally when I get the guy to the floor,
if I get them early, I might have like three minutes left to finish them.
Yeah, sure.
They can last three minutes.
They get up and they get another chance at me.
So I always have
to hurry i always i'm always fighting the opponent but fighting the clock at the same time that's
very true yeah for sure yeah when you're getting punches involved too it's a little bit of a
different story you know you can't like hold on to certain positions right definitely so um
so it's very different the approach right now is very different, but it's cool to really be leveling up my grappling,
which has been a long while, to be honest.
Yeah.
I've always been focused on the takedowns,
the shootboxing, the kickboxing.
So it's very cool to be really, really, really dialing in
on my grappling.
Do you ever look at positions that are never apparent in MMA,
but very apparent in submission?
Like, for instance, like a deep half, you never see that in MMA
because you get your face blasted in, right?
So, like, is that something that you specifically want to work on
during these times just because you may encounter that position?
Or not really?
Not really because it's not that likely that it's going to happen in this match.
Oh, yeah, this match specifically, yeah. Oh, that's a not that likely that it's going to happen in this match. Oh, yeah.
This match specifically.
Yeah.
Oh, that's a good way to approach it, man.
So I'm very, very focused on just this guy, this match.
And it's those positions I've worked on in the past.
And of course, I'm working on the leg locks here with John.
Nice.
He's good at that here.
He's all right.
Yeah.
But my focus is on my own strengths.
I'm focused on my takedowns.
I'm focused on my ability to get guys down, to wear people out,
to get my weight on them.
I'm focused on passing.
Yeah.
Have you watched some of his tape?
Like, you know, a lot. like you know a lot do you do a
lot of tape work too or yeah and are there some of the things that you saw in his tape work that
you know obviously you don't have to tell us everything you know obviously you have a match
coming up right but like uh some of the strengths that watch out for some of his weaknesses like
can you get give a little bit of uh insider information on that? Yeah, definitely. Like, I think
everybody who's seen his tape,
you can basically
think everybody has the same
opinion, right? He's very, very explosive.
Great athlete, yeah. He can get
you from anywhere.
But the good thing is
he kind of needs a takedown.
He needs, like, he likes
the Uchimata.
He likes his single attacks.
And it's not that easy to take me down.
I rarely, rarely, rarely get down.
My judo base, I think I have a good shot at stopping him.
Yeah.
Taking him, throwing him a bit maybe.
Nice.
Who knows?
Yeah, yeah. Very exciting stuff. We're all going to it then, man. a bit maybe. Nice. Who knows? Yeah, yeah.
Very exciting stuff.
We're all going to it then, man.
We're rooting for you.
So after judo, right, you transitioned into BJJ right away
when you were 15, 16 years old?
So it was like, yes, it was that age.
Like other things got more interesting, girls, party.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
For a couple of years.
I think we all did, you know. How old are you now by the way i'm 32 okay great
but then i moved to a new city to start my studies and that found i was looking for a judo gym
um to a jiu-jitsu gym because it wasn't really good there yeah and um in the netherlands in the netherlands
and i went to a gym there with my judo knowledge and beat everybody pretty easily
the guy who taught there didn't want to roll with me i was like fuck this shit this
gets bullshit jiu-jitsu i'm never coming back yeah and somebody else told me
you should come to this gym this is a one um so i with him i was just getting
choked out by small people yes any brazilian guys blue, they were choking me up. Yeah. I was. There's all this time right there, right?
If you figure out.
I was amazed, man.
Yeah.
I'm there and
jiu jitsu turned into MMA pretty quickly.
But jiu jitsu has always been my first love.
Wow.
And you still consistently train obviously.
Do you ever train in a gi at all or no?
Yeah, I really like to train in a gi.
Oh, shoot.
Okay.
I grew up in a gi with judo.
I always trained as a kid in a gi.
Yeah.
I still really like to train in a gi, like a couple days a week.
But I'm preparing for a fight.
I kind of tone it down a bit to like once a week.
But I always go to a gi every once in a while.
All right, so I'm going to ask a simple question that everyone asks, sort of a basic question, but
everyone loves asking this question, like, all right, what's the difference between gi
and no gi?
Your specific take on it.
You know, we all know, right?
Gi has gi, no gi has no gi, distance, whatever.
But let's hear your opinion on this.
So what I like, I'll tell you what I like about training in the Gi is that it slows it down a bit and gives you
a bit more time to think stuff through.
So in no Gi, you kind of react from a different different level especially if you're training with a guy of your
your level um it has to fire right away it has to happen right away you have to react
um without even thinking about it and in the geeky you have a bit more time to think about it which
is nice which is good too absolutely it's kind of like blitz chess and regular chess right just
the speed of it you know and friction a little bit of a factor in it nice so you transitioned
into mma when you initially started off you had great success right away like how was that about
what was that about like did you love it well tell us a little bit about those days did you feel judo
was useful yeah definitely it still is i still it's uh it's a big advantage every time i train
i'm still uh still very happy to have that in me as well um so i took an amateur fight
and eventually after like training for a couple of months in mma and um i
in MMA and I was very very very stressful. Yeah.
It was like what the fuck am I getting into.
I was studying at the time, I'm a physical therapist.
Oh really that's awesome.
My cousin's a physical therapist.
Yeah.
Yeah what a great occupation.
Yeah it's always been a good combination with the rest of my life.
Oh absolutely.
Do you still practice?
Not as much anymore.
Just a little bit.
I do some ultrasound investigations, but not as much as I used to.
But I still own the practice, so I'm around it.
But was it like a hurdle to pass?
Do you say that?
A hurdle to jump over?
Yeah, for sure, yeah.
Obstacle, I don't know.
Yeah, something like there's a milestone in this.
Because I was doing internships and studying and stuff.
I don't want to show up with a black eye every week.
So it was very stressful in the beginning.
Took an amateur fight.
Just ran in, took the guy down, choked him out pretty easily.
Nice.
Yes.
And it was weird because there was no strikes on the floor at that time.
And it was in Belgium.
Which fight, there were no ground strikes, no ground fights.
Oh, wow.
That's kind of interesting how that
is and it's still the rules are still different everywhere because in belgium you can't throw
elbows or whatever oh interesting and um so i said fuck this shit i want to do a pro fight
took a couple pro fights yeah pretty Yeah. Pretty well as well. Nice.
Building fighting in Europe.
Eventually go to South Africa, fight, fought there as well.
Um, and, um, I got a chance to fight for one.
That's my career so far.
Yeah.
And you were the middleweight champion for a little bit, right?
I'm the middleweight champ.
I just lost my light heavyweight belt in December.
Yes.
And that to the Malikins?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I messed up for the first time, dropped the ball.
Oh, man.
Well, it sucks, of course, but it's interesting for now.
It's a real interesting thing to be working on
and come back this time.
So, I is the first,
and hopefully I'm going to make this a good year.
Nice.
How do you handle loss?
Everyone handles it differently.
I know guys who disappear for a little bit.
I know guys who are right back the next day,
working on stuff.
I know guys who just don't even push next day, like working on stuff. Like,
I know guys who just don't even like push it out of their minds.
Like, you know?
So how do you handle that?
It's on my mind every day.
I don't,
it pushes out of my mind.
It's on my mind every day.
I went straight back to training.
Went straight back to work.
And
I have two kids.
Nice.
How old are they? Two and four great age yeah great age yeah it's very cool um so one of the first thoughts i had was like are they still okay are they still happy
doesn't the result doesn't really matter that much yeah
well they still love me of course yeah wow that's got to be emotional too right like i know
adesanya just beat that guy perera and then their kids is watching and they're crying and
brutal right that's brutal well my not that old, so they didn't watch the fight happily.
But it's the way I felt. It sucks for me, but it's just me. Come on.
The kids are fine. I'm all right.
Good. And then, so how many more, what does your future look like in terms of like, how far do you want to take it?
You know, you're 32 years old. I know, you know, people have longevity in the sport, but like, what is the next
thing that you want to do? I know Ty would pose
right in around the corner, so we're
all rooting for you, watching you there.
But after that, you know, do you think
bigger? Like, what are your goals long term?
Yeah, so it's Ty
first,
which is May 5th.
And what would be good
is defend my middleweight title in July
and get the rematch end of the year.
Nice. That's amazing.
And Natalie?
Oh, wow. That's exciting.
I need to get that one back.
Yeah. And so those fights are all, where are they going to be?
Do you know yet?
No, I don't know yet. we'll figure it out after time um
but i think good success this far um one in in because they sold out the venue like in a couple
of weeks yeah the buzz or a lot of hype going into it tons yeah i think pretty con so maybe
they'll come back to the states yeah i think so i had a
conversation with chakri maybe like uh you know two days ago and he was saying like hey we're
doing like 12 with amazon you know things like this you know i could share it because he said
it on a public platform right he said they could probably just do a dozen of these guys in the
united states and you know english they've been talking about it for a while too, but it's actually here.
Yes.
If everyone goes well, I think they'll do some work.
Yeah, that's exciting.
You know, you're an English speaker too, so your fan base is going to grow,
you know, really, really big here.
Because a lot of the American fans, are they involved so much?
Like right now, one is not as visible as some of the other organizations
in the U. US, correct?
That's definitely true.
Yeah.
So do you have a lot of a big fan base here in the United States?
I think it's growing, but now with the Amazon, it's been live for, I think, half a year or something.
Yeah.
And now with the first events here, I think it's going to grow.
Can you go to the mall right now and people stop you like, oh my god it's rdr people are running up to you it's not
like that yet no no i'm safe i'm safe i'm safe here if back home and then asia i have a problem
oh could you imagine you in japan because japan loves this stuff right
oh man so they're gonna be they're all over you oh my god you're the guy
and that's a dream man i would really. So they're going to be, they're all over you. Oh, my God, you're the guy. And that's a dream, man.
I would really, really love to fight in Tokyo one day.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Japan is, you know, I'm sure because we're around the same age, right?
You probably grew up watching Pride.
Yeah, definitely.
All the guys in K-1.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
What was your favorite fighter back then when you were a kid?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
What was your favorite fighter back then when you were a kid? Well, to be honest, I got into it a bit later
because I was a pretty clean-cut guy.
I didn't get to know it too much,
but there's a long list of guys man there's been so many
dutch fighters and far like i'm someone as i'm i mean like alistair over in gager musashi
oh that's right yeah musashi over those are great fighters yeah nice oh there's this active right i think i've seen yeah yeah um
so alistair just had a kickboxing match you beat but i mean oh that's another one he's another one
too that's been around for a very long time yeah um and um get guard is still going strong. Yeah. By the Paris and may I train a lot with him, with get guard and with
Costello's shit.
Yeah.
Do you want that kind of fame in the United States?
People like, oh my God, RDR, people running up to you,
bothering you for photos.
You want that?
That's that's not a goal.
That's not a goal.
No.
So what do you get out of martial arts the most?
What is your favorite thing about it?
so what do you get out of martial arts the most what is your favorite thing about it
what I really like about fighting
I think that goes like
anything I really like
in life is
you're doing it, it's the only thing
in the world
it's nothing like
when that cage door closes
nothing else exists
the guy in front of you and that's it Nothing like when that cage door closes, nothing else exists.
The guy in front of you, and that's it.
No other thoughts.
There's no bills.
There's no other distractions. There's no thinking about anything else.
That's good.
Yeah, this guy is trying to hurt you.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
It's like training, but it's uh right because when you work when you're
when you're on the map you're not thinking about what you're doing right then and yeah really in
the moment mindful or whatever you want to call that but in the cage it's amplified by a thousand
nice can you tell us like a little bit like when you in training, because you're a physical therapist, right?
Like I said, my cousin's a physical therapist.
He's a black belt at my judo school.
And people always bother him, like, hey, man, can you look at my shoulder?
Hey, can you look at my neck?
And he's like, I'm freaking training here, man.
Does that ever happen to you?
Physical therapist, right?
I'll tweak my knee.
It's like, man, I'm doing rolls right now.
Got to be annoying.
Well, they know. They know. now like gotta be annoying well they know they
know in the gym back home they know how how so all right can you give us a judo story from back
of the day um well it's it's just it's how i grew up man um i think back to my youth, I've always seen myself in the car with my dad,
driving somewhere on the weekend, like some obscure tournament.
Yeah.
I was always, then already, I was always just motivated to the bone.
I wanted to beat everybody, anybody, and nothing really changed.
I was always crazy upset if I didn't win.
Yeah.
And it changed.
So, it's my foundation.
Yeah.
What are your favorite throws?
Haragoshi.
Haragoshi, wow.
Are you lefty or righty?
Righty.
Righty, Haragoshi.
You're tall, so you go over the back?
Yeah.
Do you have any favorite setups?
Yeah.
So I sweep the leg, you know, let them step.
And in MMA, it's a great combo with like a good knee to the body.
Oh, yeah.
Like a whizzer or if I get an underhook, they turn,
like if they turn off the cage or whatever,
I hit them with a knee, they step,
and then I get the haragoshi.
I really like that.
Yeah, that's like a much more serious setup
than like a foot sweep, you know?
Like a foot sweep, hurray, it's like, okay,
you kind of see it coming,
but like you get kneed in the stomach,
you're like, holy moly,
and then you blast them with hurray, right?
You ever do judo anymore?
I mean, I guess you're training in a gi sometimes, right,
if you're doing jiu-jitsu?
Yeah, so I train, like, takedowns in the gi.
I would like to.
Yeah.
It would be something I would do,
but there's not a lot of time for it right now.
I would in the future.
Do you wrestle at all?
Just, like, purebred wrestling, freestyle, collegiate?
Yeah, we wrestle a lot we have uh some
good um uh roman wrestlers in the gym back home nice we wrestle a lot with them yeah and then we
wrestle specifically for mma with gloves and against the cage you know oh yeah that's good
stuff that's good so how long are you in the united States now for? For a month. All the way up to the actual fighting?
Yeah.
So I'll spend a little over a week.
And then I'll fly out to Denver.
Nice.
Because of the altitude, they tell me you have to be in.
Yeah.
Is it at the Olympic Training Center area?
Because there's an Olympic Training Center over there, right?
In Denver?
No?
No. I have to still book an Airbnb and stuff. Oh, right? Endeavor? No? No.
I have to still book an Airbnb and stuff.
Oh, you have to book an Airbnb.
I'm too well prepared.
Yeah.
Yeah, you got to go a week out because that air is so thin over there.
You know?
Yeah.
So I've got three weeks.
Three weeks in advance.
Yeah.
Hopefully, that's going to come.
That's a great time, yeah.
I remember, like, when I did judo over there,
the French team came, like came three or four days before,
and they were dying.
They're like wheezing, you know,
because it's hard to breathe up there, you know what I mean?
Yeah, a lot of people tell me it feels like...
Yeah.
So what do you want some of your American fans
that are up and coming, who's going to look at you up now,
watch you on, like something about you
that you want them to know?
I hope that they get a chance to watch what I do,
to watch the stuff I do well,
throw people around,
choke them out, hopefully.
Yeah, choke them out.
And then watch my comeback story this year yeah that's exciting times
yeah I love how one like builds that up
right like Demetrius Johnson story
best two out of three
this is the third one that they're gonna do I love how they build
that up and you know
it's gonna be really exciting right watching you come
back those two fights
were cool right
yeah very cool
yeah
the knee uh yeah yeah it's an
exciting one and then as rota as well yeah the comment which is cool yeah hopefully the americans
like um we talked a bit as well oh yeah yeah it's gonna be amazing yeah so all right two more
questions uh what would you say to like a young judoka or a grappler listening to this?
What would you say?
Give them advice from a guy who's 32, has success in the sport,
successful grappler, period, right, and fighter, martial artist.
What would you say to that kid?
Do more.
Do more.
That's it.
All of it.
Do more.
Do more.
Keep going.
It's always all the of it. Do more. Do more. Keep going. It's always
all the guys I train
back home, I have a lot of younger guys
coming up, a lot of kids coming to the gym.
Don't listen to normal
people, what normal people tell you.
Don't listen to it.
Rest a day. Take a day off.
That's all bullshit. Keep going.
Go harder. Do more.
You ever have a girlfriend that's like,
come on, stay in bed.
Don't go to morning training.
You ever have one of those?
Of course.
You did, right?
Of course.
You didn't marry her, did you?
Awesome.
That's great advice.
Yeah, it's awesome advice, man.
All right, one more.
So what has martial arts taught you?
Everything, man.
If you were to distill it down to one sentence,
like your thing, like this is martial arts to me,
what is it?
It's a very good question.
What it's given me is a purpose.
That's the most valuable thing for me. it's really helped me put my life in order
all in all aspects of my life and i think that's an important thing to remember as well
you can do more um it's um it's a mistake to fall into it. Just thinking the only thing I can do is get good at training and forget the rest.
You build every part of your life.
Build your social life.
You got to build your love life.
Build your work, your businesses, whatever you do.
And your training as well.
Nice.
It doesn't have to be like that.
You don't have to just show up in the gym twice a day
and the rest of the day you're sitting at home
watching some bullshit Netflix story.
Yeah.
You can do more.
You can build every particle of it.
True.
Love that, man.
Thank you so much.
I'm sure I'm going to share with everybody this podcast,
this thing.
I'm going to put it on social.
I'm going to tag you in all of it.
Right?
You have Instagram? Yeah. Awesome. All all right thank you very much for being on and uh yeah best of luck may 5th
you want to plug your thing how can we watch it may yeah go ahead uh youtube i think i think you
can watch mine on youtube still and then after that on Amazon Prime. It's in Denver.
So watch me.
Watch me do it.
Yeah.
RDR.
Thank you, Shantan.
Thank you very much.
You're in judo already.
Yeah, she is.
She is.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
But, you know, I'm trying to make it fun for her.
I'm not trying to stress her out about it.
You know what I mean? If she wants to do it, I want to help her do it.
You know, I'm lifelong judoka.
You know, so.
Yeah, yours? No, not yet i'm the four-year-old is a girl okay is a boy yeah um my girl has it's gonna take some time
before she's uh really gonna step on the mat see yeah she's at the gym of course she's always watching me train, but I'm not too sure how quick she's joined.
Yeah.
But my boy is already there.
He already wants to train right now.
That's exciting, man.
Yeah, my daughter loves dance.
Yeah, good.
I love it.
Love it.
That's the best, man.
Good for you, man.
Awesome.