The Shintaro Higashi Show - Uchimata

Episode Date: July 18, 2022

Uchimata is one of the most popular throws in Judo and other grappling arts for its versatility and beauty. Why is uchimata so loved, yet so hard to execute? What are some of the key elements of uchimata that makes it a beautiful yet hard throw? In this episode, Shintaro and Peter do a deep dive into everything related to uchimata. Please support us on Patreon if you can: https://www.patreon.com/shintaro_higashi_show. Any amount helps!

hello everyone welcome back to the shintaro higashi show with peter you today we're going to talk about uchi mata not hoochie mama but uchi mata yeah hoochie mama is a urban slang for promiscuous person woman commonly when i try to type uchi mata to friends on right appleMessage, whatever it is, it gets auto-corrected to uchi mama. It's like, no, man. I don't mean uchi mama. I mean uchi mata. So uchi mata.

So what does that mean, literally? Uchi means inside. Mata is crotch. So inside crotch, essentially. Inside thigh. Inner thigh. You can say inner thigh throw yeah something like this but it commonly you stick a leg inside between the legs and then you lift them and go but it's super complex it's

so much more happening there than people think that's why it's hard to understand the concept of it it's a very very difficult throw to grasp yeah you were right i mean it's one of the hardest throws to learn i think um i'm still working on my version i don't know if you noticed right i mean it's one of the hardest throws to learn i think um i'm still working on my version i don't know if you noticed when i was in new york i've been trying to do a different way to do my uchimata um and but there's a reason why there's a reason why everyone despite being so, wants to do Uchimata. Like, it's so popular. It's so popular, and it's in every single grappling sport you've ever seen.

Yeah, wrestlers do it, too. Mongolian wrestling. If you watch freestyle wrestling. I mean, Greco, you can't intertwine the legs. But, like, most wrestling-oriented sports, you have that Uchimata lift, the leg throw. Every movie that you've ever watched with martial arts in it, it doesn't even have to be a grappling sport. If you watch any martial art period, people do it. Why is it so popular then?

It's such a hard, it's a complex throw though. Intuitively, it makes sense. You stick the leg in between and you lift them and then you launch them. I guess the basic ideas. ideas yeah so much going on and i think it's really aesthetically pleasing because you're on one leg i see if you do the lifting version you are loading the other person and swinging them and kicking them over all on one leg so it requires not just explosiveness, but balance. Right? And that's like the move of Uchimata. Yeah.

Okay? And I'm going to distinguish later on between the move Uchimata, the actual throw, the technique, and then the position of Uchimata.

And I actually believe from the bottom of my heart that Uchimata is more of a position than a throw. Interesting. Yeah. Unpopular opinion.

All purely original. I didn't get this from a tiktok video this is my original thought what do you mean by that i don't i don't i don't even know if that's an unpopular opinion i maybe people have just haven't articulated i don't think i've ever heard anyone say it yeah yeah all right so let's look at this idea if you're trying to throw the person in one shot you're trying to throw the person in one shot, you're trying to go underneath and lift them, and people will say Hanegoshi versus Uchimata, I'm not even going to entertain that question.

I'm so sick and tired of people arguing about it online. Every time when a leg throw gets posted online, it's all that Uchimata or Hanegoshi. It's actually Hanegoshi. I don't even entertain those comments anymore I ignore them there's always a threat underneath it too

yeah actually Uchimata's a leg throw it's like we're not even gonna talk about it you can't even tell now if people

are being ironic or unironically debating but anyway yeah but anyway you're trying to lift them boom

go underneath and one swoop shot and depending on your balance the opponent's balance how they're postured right whether they're able to shift their center of gravity away from your lifting mechanic right mechanics right you end up in this inside leg versus outside leg position both partners are balanced on their leg. And you're fighting from there. There's many counters from the person receiving that and then many counter for the person initiating that.

So now you have this position. Okay. In wrestling, commonly, you ever heard of the dog fight position? When you're hip to hip. It's like scrambling? Oh. Yeah. Underhook versus overhook's like scrambling? Oh. Yeah.

Underhook versus overhook. Right? Dogfight position. Yeah. People always try to slip that leg underneath to lift for like a Uchimata, right? Right. This ken-ken throwing position can easily be countered if the person knows what they're talking about. Mm-hmm. And I've heard this outside position called things like the European step over or the stretch leg or a Uchimata Sakashi.

But there's many, many variations of countering said Uchimata from that outside position, outside leg position. So the question becomes whether this person finishes the throw or not finishes the throw. It's a battle within that confined position. Right. Yeah. Makes sense. So that's why you say it's more of a position than a throw. Yes.

Some people can force that inside position, right? They get good position. They're like, you know what? I'm just going to slip the leg in for Ochi, lift the leg, and now I'm going to force it, and then I'm going to try to run it or switch to something else right right some people use that position as a means as an intermediary position to switch into a sumi or a drop sacrifice throw right or they force it and then make the person hot twice and then

switch to a tomonage okay so they're entering into this position maybe this is um maybe this is the reason behind the popularity maybe the idea is that uchimaru is such a versatile throw so versatile yeah you can go in from any position because it is essentially a position like you said yeah it's not really an end product if you're looking at any leg lock attacking position and i'm going to relate it to jiu-jitsu brazilian jiu-jitsu because it's so popular now a lot of my followers and listeners now tend to be from that world right and when you're looking for leg locks ashigurami position or whatever it is you start generally with inside leg position whether it's shin to shin guard or whatever it is you know start generally with inside leg position. Whether it's shin to shin guard or whatever it is.

You know what I mean? K guard is another example, right? So like forcing that inside leg position can be used to create off balance and create kizushi and enter into other things similarly with uchimata position. You could slip that leg in there and force. Right. Flowing action from there. Right. Whether you transition to Osoto, transition to leg lifting. Right.

And there's a lot of factors there too. You know, we haven't really spoken about height, leg length. Right. Leg mobility. How far can your leg go up? Yeah. You know, in ballet, they call it punché. Punché.

Oh, yeah. Maybe I said it wrong. But it's that position where the leg goes all the way up. In ballet, they call it panche. Panche. Maybe I said it wrong. It's that position where the leg goes all the way up. Like 6pm. Straight up. I've seen that. How high can you lift your leg? Do you have to be able to lift your leg

to be good at Uchimata? I've seen Japanese judokas like the Olympiansians they work on that punch a position like by them so like yeah one of those a lot they can kick real high they can kick real high and then this is the problem the head diving situation oh yeah commonly the most dangerous thing you can do you get penalized for this there's a reason why people do it because if your body's upright and you try to lift your leg as high as possible behind you it's very difficult because most people's hip flexors are

pretty tight right but if you bring your head down it's a lot easier to lift the leg more right kind of like a seesaw yeah you see what i mean so you could kind of cheat you know and then a lot of the times the hip isn't level the hip rotates open right so you see sort of this sideways front uchimata situation for a lot of people who don't have the mobility right to be able to kick that leg back and be facing forward right so mobility plays a big role in this stuff you know right yeah that's and then that's i guess we can kind of go into the height difference too. Like maybe if you have good mobility, hip flexor mobility, you can kick high and then you can kind of compensate for the height difference. Because I actually find that difficult, like trying to hit a Uchimata on a taller person.

Yeah. So this is the thing, right? I hear people say this all the time. Oh, you're tall you should do chimera yeah not necessarily if you're super immobile okay if you're super immobile and you can't lift your leg behind you more than two feet three feet then everyone's gonna step over that thing right right right so you need to be able to lift your leg pretty high and you need to be able to keep good balance on that lead leg the support leg yeah so if you have long legs you could have less mobility

and still get that lift because if you're six four right and you could raise your leg up to here yeah i'm you know five ten on a good day I might tip it off I'm not that mobile and I can't really lift my leg not in the same way but from the side you know how you do the side as you're receiving Uchimata and I can't lift it higher than this person's Uchimata

he can provide sufficient lift from there once your foot the other foot is off the ground then it's gone you know yeah because i can't lift my leg more maybe his hand position or kudushi wasn't perfect but now because there's no more room for my leg to go it's gonna lift my support leg off the ground and now if he whips it i'm gonna be being able to right he's gonna turn me over he's gonna flip me to my back so that's why right if you get a tall person who has great balance and

who has great mobility then you're gonna you know he's gonna be classic uchimata position they will be better at it right right naturally but i'm a guy. I can still do Uchimata pretty good. And I figured this out later. I see. There's a video on YouTube on Nationals. I think you went against this tall guy and you hit a huge Uchimata on him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Way back. Yeah, he was like six foot tall. Yeah. How'd you manage to do that like what's your secret sauce so the secret sauce there's things that i'm missing which is mobility oh but i have pretty good balance with my my leg and then majority of my uchimata is sort of the beginning phases with the proper hand movement and people generally say oh this is how you do uchimata that's how you do uchimata. That's how you do Uchimata.

But it's very, very different. You have to have many, many different types of Uchimata. Okay? Right. This one particular position, because I had such good dominant position, I feint, feint, and then I dove in, and then he wasn't able to react in time, and then I was able to lift him.

Right? It was like a lifting Uchimata. Right. You know what I mean? I got my hips in. He didn't sidestep. If he would have sidestepped, we would have been in Kenken uchimata right you know i mean i got my hips in he didn't sidestep if he would have sidestepped we would have been in kenken uchimata position right and the question becomes what's better me able to finish this person or his defense in the uchimata kenken

position receiving right he probably didn't really have a good this one specific person i'm talking about right yeah? Yeah. Robust defensive system or even an offensive position from, you could be in that position from the receiving end and the outside leg position being offensive from there.

Right? And I kind of deemed that he didn't have that. You know? So that was sort of my game. Stick my leg in there and lift him. Boom.

I see. Yeah. But this is the thing, right? It's a lot more complicated than that. That's one example of one Uchimata that I did. You know what I mean? Right.

Maybe he's a little bit taller. And even if I throw my hips across, I can't gain sufficient lift. In that case, I'll do like a back step swinging Uchimata where I bring his head all the way down. Right? And then I elevate the back leg while bringing his head really, really low. Stuffing his head. So then you bring his head down and then you bring his leg up. So it has nothing to do with my mobility.

If you could put someone's forehead on the ground and you could lift your leg, I don't know, three, four feet, you're able to topple him over. Because most people don't have the hamstring flexibility to support that position and be strong there. Right, right. You know what I mean? So now that kind of goes into the difficulty of stuffing the head. Like, you know, you always, remember, you always tell me, stuff the head, stuff the head, stuff the head. I guess, my guess is it starts with kuzushi. You've got to have a good kuzushi there, and it's easier to stuff the head. I guess it, my guess is it starts with Kazushi. You gotta have a good Kazushi then

it's easier to stuff the head. But what I've tried, what I've been doing nowadays, try to use my, the rotation of my body and then try to stuff the head that way. Yeah. Cause I just couldn't physically push the head down with my arm a lot of times. So great question, great idea. I think you can always stop the head if you can time it properly. So now this is a timing-oriented thing. I always like to distinguish between a timing-oriented throw and a power-oriented throw. Every throw requires a little bit of timing but the certain throws require less for

instance osorogari if you're a big strong person you hook that leg and you can just physically force it right right because you're leaning into the thing or even like a suplex you lock him in and then you could drive your both legs into the ground and then launch it and explode through that movement which amount of when you're like up in the air and then keeping your balance is very difficult to apply a lot of force. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's the problem I have. Yeah. So once you're entering into that position, if the person

has two legs on the ground, they're very stable. If they have two legs rooted into the ground and they're able to posture up really hard, now you're going against somebody's deadlifting strength. Right. And some people can deadlift in the five, 600 pounds,

right? Right. So now all of a sudden, if the person could deadlift 500 pounds and then you're on one leg, pulling his head down from there, his or her head down from there, it's almost impossible. Right?

So the idea becomes mistiming it. I fake a throw, which you model, whatever it is. And they react by bringing their head down or pushing their hips back and now you could draw him forward and then slip that leg in and you're mistiming his defense right right that's kind of the idea if you have good hand position it's easier because if i have dominant around the head c5 grip behind the neck i could

pull the head down right crank on the head crank on the head and then his head comes up and i could draw him forward and then slip that leg in see what i mean so like i'm trying to mistime his defense mistime his defense sometimes it's like a foot sweep sometimes the snap down sometimes it's like i'm going ochi ochi ochi and he's leaning into me and his body shifts towards me and now his head is at an angle and now i could punch him in the back of the neck and then bring him forward right right i could launch him with a straight uchimata like a move technique but generally people can sidestep and now we're in the forced uchimata position. Right, that one-legged position that we talked about.

Inside leg versus outside leg. You know, the Europeans used to be very, very good at this. This was their thing. You know, people would sometimes force it. They would go Kosorogake. Right, Kosoro where you're hooked outside of the leg. And they would force this position. Some people do this.

You know, and it's like, why would you climb onto their dominant hip? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tall guy jumping onto your hip, jumping onto your hip. And you're like, I'm just going to throw this guy with Uchimata. And you start turning. And now all of a sudden, he's posturing up. He's pulling your sleeve back. And then he's rotating and trying to step over that leg.

Just stretchy. Yeah, he's going to stretch that leg. He's going to Sukashi that Uchimata. Defensively, you could do this too right so like i talked about mistiming the entry right right to mistime their defense but defensively hey look uchimata's here and then someone dives in for it and then you sidestep and let the leg go by that's a classic uchimata sakashi where you right him over right if you watch Shinohara and Duye in the 2000 Olympics. Oh, that's a controversial one.

Yes. And if someone sends me that video and says, whose score is it? I'm not even going to entertain that. It's nobody's score. They shouldn't have scored it, period. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's like no one had enough control. No one had control, yeah. That was always my thing, right? If you can't tell who scored, just wipe it off. It didn't happen. That was always my mentality right if you can't tell who scored just wipe it off it didn't happen that was always my mentality with this kind of stuff

it's like when people are still arguing about it came up on reddit the other day like who scored this really I kind of wanted to write like no one cares at this point

they're both gold medalists now they're both gold medalists did you know this oh how like oh they did the IOC or IJF they gave two gold medalists did you know this oh how like oh they did the IOC or IJF they gave two gold medals

they gave gold oh really oh I didn't know that it really doesn't matter now yeah and the question is whose score that's not the question

yeah right and now you gotta ask the question like who won the match if that score didn't happen at all Shinohara

was like no one watched the whole i mean a lot of people haven't watched the whole match in its entirety right right right no i haven't you know me neither i just remember i thought shinohara was the favorite right but yeah yeah that was a big upset yeah yeah that was a huge deal you know, people still know David Duye from that time period, like from France. Uh-huh. Yeah. What's he up to? I'll never forget, man. I went to a nightclub in Brooklyn one time, and this French guy saw my ear.

He's like, oh, you do judo? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. He goes, do you know Duye? I was like, I don't know him personally, but, you know. He's like, oh, man. I was like, do you do judo? This is the thing. Guy was like, no, I did judo in school, like in gym.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how it is in France. A lot of people do it. He's like, I'm a swimmer. I'm on the swim team. That's pretty cool that this average swim team guy knows to look at a year and say that's cauliflower year. I know. And then to mention a judo champion.

That kind of goes to show how popular it is in France. I had the same thing happen to me in a uber Did I tell you this? Uber? Yeah. Well, no, no, no In New York City. Yeah in New York City. I got an uber and there's a Georgian guy. Yeah So where are you from? I was like, I'm from New York man. He goes no no no where are you really from? He goes, oh, yeah, so where are you from? I was like, oh, I'm from New York, man. He goes, no, no, no, where are you really from?

I'm like, okay, I'm Japanese. He goes, oh, yes, yes, you know, us Georgians, very good, the sport judo. Do you know? I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I do a little judo. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah, we're chit-chatting, chit-chatting. I was like, what did you do? You know, and he's like, I did track or something. I did boxing for like six months.

And then I'm like, okay, cool, right? right and then he goes do you know Bekauri I'm like oh shoot that's a random name he's fighting for the championship but his shoulder hurting and there's no good I'm like oh man do you watch? I know I just know I was like

what else do you know he's like I know big champion Okarashvili I know Bekagivnash what else he's like i know big champion okarashvili uh i know becca givinashvili he's very very strong and like he just like listed all these camps he's like an average guy you know like it's like listing all the soccer players or basketball players or something yeah it was so cool man it was like i was like really you know into it so we had a good that's happened to me too. Yeah. I mean, in New York, you meet a lot of these people. My like super at my last apartment was a guy from Kosovo.

So he knew all the Kosovo gold medalists. And then my mover who moved my stuff to that apartment was a Kazakhstani wrestler. Nice. Yeah. Uzbekistani. my stuff from that to that apartment was a kazakhstani wrestler nice yeah he and i looked him up uh later and then he was actually suspended for doping he was a small like yeah he was just making money as a mover yeah and things things like that yeah but speaking of georgian yeah speaking of georgian right they do georgian grip differently yeah yeah i mean but still it's a position right they go georgian a over the shoulder georgian b receiving that georgian grip right so now commonly georgian b collects the tricep goes goes around the waist, right? And Jojin A turns for Uchimata. Sticks the leg in there, wraps it like an Ouchi.

Jojin A generally tends to have inside leg position. Right, right. Jojin B has outside leg position. Outside, yeah. And then the goal from there is Jojin A has to pull him forward, put his hand down, down trap that arm and then kick that leg over yeah that's yeah and that's uchimata position yeah that's like yeah that's another point about uchimata's versatility like yeah it could happen that inside leg outside leg position could happen any in any situation really and you could do a one step Uchimata. Let's just look at traditional right right. You could jump right into it one step. You could do a split

stance two step one two. We could do like a one two three. Right. It's not really three steps. It's still one two and then kick. But the entry is... Right. So you could mistime it. If you watch Inoue do Uchimata, he does a lunging one-step Uchimata, right? Right. Where he brings his back leg in front of his other leg.

Not behind how we all do it. As opposed to bringing the right leg across, left leg behind, right? He just dives his left leg to the top of the triangle and then he swings and then goes. Right. You know what I mean?

He was amazing at it. Yeah, amazing. If you watch Yoshida, he has a very, very different kenken uchimata style where he hooks the uchi and then lifts it. But he has the very, very high leg. And he can do it without bringing his head down so much.

Oh. Ono brings his head all the way down, forehead to the ground. Oh, yeah. I'm surprised. If you watch Yoshida. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. His head doesn't go all the way down like Ono.

Ono's unique in that way. He's very flexible. Forehead to the ground yeah i wonder why he never gets called i guess he's not really diving directly like he's kind of grazing to the side so it's okay but i was always worried like oh what if he gets called for that yeah it's pretty dangerous you know because you're on one leg you're going forward and commonly like mistakes most people make is that they lose balance going forward and then they release their hands to brace themselves from not going face first onto the floor

and now you're not applying any force to your opponent right right right but if you hold on and if you're losing your balance and you're going straight down, you're going to go land on your face. Worst is if you bring your head down and then you land on the top of your head. And because the person's behind you, if they drive their hips forward, you'll break your neck. That's why the head diving is so dangerous. That's why I don't suggest doing Uchimata like this at all. Yeah. You know, it looks cool it's like that you know bicycle kick in soccer right people love doing it and when you're a kid you try it right right right

how many times did you land on your head doing it you know and it's not a safe thing to do yeah yeah that's probably why i'm really dumb why are you doing all the no doing the bicycle kick bicycle kick oh you did it a lot you did it a lot oh yeah i tried it over and over in the backyard somebody should have stopped me you know your dad was like just do the break fall my dad's do the break fall so that's the yeah go ahead so yeah i'll just say the you kind of mentioned a common mistake that people do with the the head diving and all so i was going to ask you about some of those other some of the other common mistakes and one thing i is i kind of personally i used to do this too when i first learned it is to uh go into the uchimara and then kick someone in the groin yeah you know yeah that's fine that's not how it's yeah that's not how it's supposed to be though do it

how you uh okay what i thought was happening was that you didn't have good kuzushi so the person, your partner was just standing still and then you're just sticking the leg in without anything so you kick the groin no, you could still get nailed

whether you have good kuzushi or not because the leg is coming straight up the middle generally and even if it's properly aligned to the far hip far leg or the close leg if you're tucking your situation to one side or the other side you can still get nailed okay maybe i was just a little naive about that no you just gotta you're gonna you might get nailed that's that's okay well then now you bring another point i guess this could be kind of

similar to uchimata versus hanegoshi stuff but when i was first learning i was i was unsure if i should kick the outside leg or like the inside leg or the far leg the close leg or the far leg what's your opinion on that? Whatever. I mean, you always want to, whatever really is the right answer to it. But ideally, you want to learn to be able to load the person on the leg, on the hip. Okay? Not shelf them on your leg.

That's not what you're trying to do. And a lot of the times when you shelf them on your leg, you have like this open hip position where you're like using your sort of adductors. Yeah. Abductors, right? On your outside leg, you know medial glute kind of a situation that's more of like a hanegoshi looking thing so you want to really turn and load them on your hip and then the leg is sort of like a bonus you know what i mean that's how i like to drill it because you're looking for that lift assuming that the person's going to sidestep and try to misalign right you coming underneath their center of gravity and now you're entering into uchimata position okay this ken ken position as they would call it that's why i generally go

across i drill going across but then entering in that way right if you're doing a one-step uchimata then you know you should go for that because you're gonna right so depending on like which uchimata do you know you know i think the most important thing is doing it from a good position like hand position because if you're in losing position it's very difficult to get proper off balance right right if you're being dominated your head's being dominated you can't pull your head away from the person enough to pull so when you go into uchimata it's going to be very difficult even if you time it right or whatever it is to lift that leg because they're sitting back right with your head it's a great way for someone

to just wrap you and then dump you or knock it backwards. So attacking from good hand position, winning position, I think is really, really important. And the more you're winning in position, the more your opposition is going to react to your feints and threats. Because the threat is much bigger. This kind of goes back to our last episode about a couple episodes ago with brian click like the grip fighting yeah i think a lot of times because it's classified as uh which amount is classified as a leg throw people just kind of focus on the flashy part which is the leg but that hand position and then the upper body control is more important. You kind of mentioned that the leg is kind of a bonus almost.

Yeah. What finishes the job. I mean, if you have unbelievable mobility, and flexibility and mobility are different. Flexibility is passive, right? Someone could physically grab my leg and lift it beyond this point. Mobility is like me having control up until this point. So I could be more flexible but less mobile. You're never more mobile than you are flexible.

Because it's about having control in that last range of the motion. You know what I mean? Yeah. So Uchimata, yes, you could be flexible and lift your leg really high. mean yeah yeah so uchimata yes you could be flexible and lift your leg really high but do you have control over that last i don't know 12 inches of lift when your leg is up there and can you keep your balance yeah you know what i mean right if you can and you know the other person cannot then yes hand position is very important but you could kind of rely on that because oh this guy's legs are very stiff you

know he's not going to be for instance like he and is shorter than me yeah and he's not that flexible from the side receiving uchimata right so that's why he is susceptible to this kind of throw if you're a dominant position right right you know what i mean yeah yeah that's what i was trying to go for yeah yes yeah so like he'll have a hard time with like anthony who's very very good at uchimata right left right yeah it's this kind of lifting uchimata situation right and he has pretty good mobility and there's a discrepancy in whether how high yeah he could raise the leg and then how high he can. You see what I mean?

Yeah. So, yes, hand position is always, I think it's always more important. It's very important, right? But it's the example like if you're doing judo with an 8-year-old kid that's 4'3". Uchimata all day. Yeah, it's like hand position is not going to matter.

He's like grab anywhere you want. And the kid will grab wherever he wants. And you won't, you would even don't even need two hands. You could just turn, kick the leg up really high and then the kid would fly over. Right? I mean, that's true. That's true. Yeah. So like I like to use these extreme examples to kind of make sense of these things.

Right. You know? Yeah. That makes sense yeah and obviously the other thing is like pulling the sleeve across right rotating spiraling and down ratcheting right you want to lock the hands down as you're going so the person can't bring their head back up to posture yeah all those things matter you know yeah it's a you have to feel it right how do you do uchimata from here do you just finish it like that you have to look at it like a position it's ever-changing is dynamic is the

person sidestepping with you is the person's ratcheting his head back up is the person leaning excessively in this direction then you switch Ochi Uchimata right do you have your balance the game is me keeping my balance and taking their balance right yeah yeah so entering into this position it's like how do you finish uchimata you're asking the wrong question how do i get good at this position spending time there not being afraid to get counter trying different entries trying different finishes trying to adapt keeping your balance all this stuff working on your mobility flexibility that's the answer you know it's not there's no one trick that'll no make your uchimata perfect unfortunately are you surprised you doubted me today i was like let's talk about uchimata he

goes i know i'm actually you could talk about uchimata for more than 10 minutes i was like 20 minutes was minutes you did it we're over 30 minutes now it's pretty impressive I could talk about this for another hour easily maybe we should do this more so yeah that was it for Uchimata

if you guys like this kind of episodes let us know which throw we should talk about next. Yeah. Apparently, Shintaro can just go on and on about any throw. I can go on and on. Yeah. You want to see?

You want to see? One time I fought Lucas Kropalik, who's 6'4". And I tried to do Uchimata with my short little legs being 5'8". Was that like, what, Tokyo or Paris or something? Yeah, one of those guys. I had no shot. I couldn't even reach him and grab his lapel that's how long the distance was and i couldn't even get my legs close enough

to like provide lift i like move and shine and then i like blasted the thing and he just didn't even move he literally just turned his knee in just a little bit a little bit and then i was like yeah hit him in his lower thigh and your leg off. And then he just like looked at me. I was like, man, this is a big difference between, you know. But that shows to prove, you know, I was in the wrong division. I see. How many excuses you guys want? I got a million.

How did he throw you? He pinned me. Oh, he pinned you? He did the Kripalik roll. Oh, I see, I see. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. Anyway, Uchimata, I could talk about it forever. oh he pinned you he did the Kripalik role oh I see I see yeah oh man yeah

anyway Uchimata I could talk about it forever you know if you join our Patreon you could talk about Uchimata with all the discord members

uh huh and us not me so much but I will definitely try to make it he's gonna come on he's gonna come show up and then

you know I'm coming guys bullshit with you guys yeah yeah a lot going on with his life right now so a little busy yeah a little busy but uh yeah well again let us know if you guys like this type of episode we'll do more um shoot us with suggestions and thanks for listening

more and more niche idea was initially right get more and more general fitness let's talk about this let's talk about that now they're like we're going to specifically talk about right verse left kenkaya's position ochigari in that position that's it no one's gonna know what we're talking about maybe that's what we need we need to specialize even more i mean it's it's this or maybe just both sometimes we feel like we like going general sometimes Sometimes we don't. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

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