The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #103: Sahara Rose - Ayurveda 101, Body Imbalance, Doshas, Tongue Scraping, Dream Meanings, and Knowing What Works With Your System

Episode Date: February 27, 2018

On this episode we sit down with Sahara Rose who is the best-selling author of the Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda. On this episode we discuss our Doshas, what doshas are, the history of Ayurveda, diet, b...ody imbalance, tongue scraping and the meaning of our dreams.    To connect with Sahara Rose click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis. They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to receive $60 of FREE organic groceries from Thrive Market + free shipping and a 30 day trial!" Keep in mind that Thrive Market's  prices are already 25- 50% below retail because they cut out the middleman. And now they are offering $60 off free organic groceries!  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Hey guys, welcome back to The Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This week we have Sahara Rose on the show. She's a best-selling author, a wellness blogger, and Ayurveda specialist and the host of the Highest Self Podcast. Today we are talking all about our doshas, what doshas are, Ayurveda, what Ayurveda is, diets, body imbalance, tongue scraping, and the meaning of our dreams, which I know you love, Lauren. Lots of tongue scraping is happening. I feel like the more I say Ayurveda, I'm going to get better at saying it, but it's a tongue twister.
Starting point is 00:00:55 I'm Lauren Everett. I'm the creator of The Skinny Confidential, which is a blog, brand, book, and obviously a podcast. The Skinny Confidential has become a resource for women all over the world, which has turned into an incredible huge community of hundreds of thousands of women. A lot of you guys are connecting in the secret Facebook group, which you have to check out if you're not a part of. And I'm Michael Bosick. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm an investor. I'm a business operator. I specialize in brand development and business growth. Over the last 10 years, I have helped to develop and manage multiple brands in the direct-to-consumer space, and now in the podcast space. And we saw Kim Kardashian this weekend. We did. We did see Kim Kardashian. She was good. She was really good. I was really impressed with
Starting point is 00:01:39 her posture and her poise and what she had to say. Listen, a lot of people hate on that family, but it's undeniable that they are crushing it and they're working and they figured out the system. And listen, we heard her speak and it's really impressive to hear how many businesses that they've started and how many people they've reached and how many shows they've been on and how long they've been on. Whatever your opinion is of that family, there can be no doubt that in the digital age, they have really learned how to figure it out and crush it. Yeah. Some of the takeaways were that she always shows up on time. She's always professional. She's always nice and kind. And she said it really is that simple, those three things, her hustle, her drive.
Starting point is 00:02:26 She also talked about how she's a little bit more specific, what she says yes to. But when she was first starting out, she said yes to everything, which, Michael, that kind of sounds like me a little bit. That's a similarity. Are you comparing yourself to Kim K? No, not really. But she did have really, really good posture. And she also revealed the two things, the best part and the worst part about being Kim Kardashian. She said the worst part was when she looks like shit and she wants to go outside and eat a churro.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And just not, I'm quoting her, not like have anyone just up my ass. I would be the worst. If I was outside looking like shit trying to eat a churro and people were up my ass bothering me, there'd be like fisticuffs. You know what I mean? She also said that material things don't make her happy anymore, which was interesting. She says she really likes experiences and trips. And that is what is important to her now.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Well, hint people, that should be everybody's goal. Experiences over objects always. I agree. Her best part of being Kim Kardashian is that she gets free shit, free trips, free planes, free everything. I told you last week people despise the free lunch. I don't want anything for free. Despise the free lunch. Despise the free lunch.
Starting point is 00:03:37 That's very true. All right. So what's going on? I'm off the wagon. I'm done. It's the last you guys have to hear about it. This is the song that never ends. You know, I don't feel much different.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He had a drink after two months. I had a couple drinks, tequila soda and just tequila on ice. That's my go-to right now. And I'm off the wagon. I'm disappointed in myself. Why? You did two months no alcohol. I know, but now I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:04:01 You know, we're gonna have a drink tonight. We're getting ready to go to dinner with Jillian Michaels, which is going to be fun. I haven't seen her in a while. Yeah, she's pretty funny. So we're going to go see her. So I'll probably have to have a drink with her. I wish we could podcast dinner with her tonight. Maybe I'll pull a little recorder out.
Starting point is 00:04:13 We can record a little piece. You would never do that because you can't compromise the sound. So off the wagon and, you know, I'm just, I'm out there again. Are you going to have a glass of red wine tonight? Or are you going to go with the tequila? No, I'm going with the te the tequila? I'm not doing the red wine. Okay. I don't need that bloating right now. Oh my God. I can't deal. All right. With that, let's jump into the him and her tip of the week. All right. You go first. All right. So my tip of the week is all about a bedtime drink. Okay. And you know, you guys know me, I don't like to mess around
Starting point is 00:04:46 with all the, you know, weird stuff that people have to take to go to sleep. I like the all natural way to sleep. I don't like any sleeping pills. I don't like any weird stuff to put me under, you know what I mean? Like just because I don't like the way it makes me feel in the morning, I need to be on point. I need to be quick. I need to be moving fast. And so I've done a lot of research on what I can use to fall asleep. And I've done multiple things. One is the calm tea. What's that stuff called? The calm stuff? We talked about it last episode, calm tea. It's magnesium. I use that. And everyone knows about that. We've talked about it before. But there's another thing. I was listening to Tim Ferriss' podcast. So I'm not taking credit for this. This is fully on his podcast. And then I did research and he's actually done some blog posts
Starting point is 00:05:27 on it. But he has a concoction that he makes with three ingredients. It is Bragg's apple cider vinegar, Bragg's, you know that stuff, raw organic honey. So it's about one tablespoon of raw organic honey, two tablespoon of Bragg's and then hot water in hot water. And for, for whatever reason you drink this before you're going to bed. And even he says he doesn't understand the scientific reasoning. He's, but he's interviewed a lot of different people that have tried this. And now he's not interviewed me, but me included has tried this. And for whatever reason, it just knocks you out and it knocks you out in a really, really good way. You're not groggy. You're not like super tired on having those crazy vivid dreams. It just knocks you out and it knocks you out in a really, really good way. You're not groggy.
Starting point is 00:06:05 You're not like super tired on having those crazy vivid dreams. It just puts you to sleep. So I started experimenting like I do and I did this for the last couple of weeks and I love it. And so I wanted to pass this on as my tip of the week. And the best part is, is all of these items can be found on Thrive, Thrive Market. And they can get them for free. Yes. And they can get them for free. You guys can get them for free with our code ThriveMarket.com slash skinny. It's not a code to be clear though.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's a link. ThriveMarket.com forward slash skinny. The apple cider vinegar on Thrive is like three bucks, which is nothing. And it's the raw one, the one that you want to get. Bragg's. Bragg's apple cider vinegar. And the honey, whichever raw honey you'd like to use. Bragg's, Bragg's apple cider vinegar and the honey. You can, whichever raw honey you'd like to use and then just warm water. And honestly, you put this in a drink and
Starting point is 00:06:50 knock yourself out. So again, we use, you know, for all these types of items, for all our healthy items, for all our supplements, for all these organic things, we use Thrive Market just because they're a partner of the show and we love them. And you guys can use them too. $60 in free groceries and free shipping when you use thrivemarket.com slash skinny. So try this drink out. I'm telling you, it'll knock you right out. It'll put you to sleep and you're going to ride in and be like, wow, that really worked. I wish I could take all the credit, but I can't. So Tim Ferriss, thank you for recommending that. If you ever hear this, which I hope you do. When Michael's annoying me late at night, and this isn't my tip, but it's just a little tip to throw in there. You can make this drink for your husband or your boyfriend and
Starting point is 00:07:27 they'll fall right to sleep. So I think it's efficient. I want to talk, I want to do a little plot twist here. I want to talk about an epidemic. Taylor, I hope you're listening. I want to talk about dirty tongues. Okay, guys. Which we get into in this episode. But now that we've now that we heard about it from Sahara, now we're on the lookout for dirty tongues. And we will catch you if you have one. So everyone can just look in the mirror. And if you have a lot of white stuff on your tongue or gray or green or yellow, your tongue's probably dirty. So this epidemic is happening everywhere. In this episode, like Michael said, we discuss the importance of a good tongue cleaner. The one that I use is stainless steel and it's life-changing. I went and bought literally five after this episode and you will hear why you need one, but let me just give you a little sneak peek.
Starting point is 00:08:19 So I don't like the plastic ones because they're full of BPA and I would just rather do stainless steel. I think the stainless steel is sharper than the plastic, because they're full of BPA and I would just rather do stainless steel. I think the stainless steel is sharper than the plastic. So yes, that makes a difference. And also not to be gross, but the plastic ones get this dirty film on them and the stainless steel ones are more easy to clean. So keep that in mind. So like I said, the stainless steel ones really get the job done.
Starting point is 00:08:42 They're really aggressive. I actually bought mine off Thrive Market, which is so funny because I feel like our tips are intertwined. You can get your raw apple cider vinegar, your raw honey, and your tongue cleaner, and you're good to go. Like I said, if you're going to get Michael's sleepy time- You can take my nighttime concoction, and in the morning, after you wake up, you can scrape it off with your tongue cleaner. So you can get Michael's Trifecta on Thrive Market and make sure you throw in a stainless steel tongue cleaner or
Starting point is 00:09:09 two or three or four. They're only six bucks. And if you use your Thrive code, it's free. So six bucks to change your health, wellness, and breath. Michael has one too. I strategically put a couple in his dop kit. And I just think they make such a difference. If you think about it, we clean our teeth, we clean our gums. If I can use this show for anything to bring awareness to something, I think this Dirty Tongues is something to bring awareness to. So if this show, if it's done anything, if it's just brought an awareness to Dirty Tongues, I think we've done our job.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah, we have. We've done our job. But we got to think about our tongues. There's millions of bacteria that collect on the tongue and simply brushing your teeth or your tongue does not remove all the bacteria. So your tongue produces all this sulfur. I looked it up. It's pretty gross if you want to do more research on it, but it causes just bad breath. Your tongue contains bacteria and it also can lead to other health issues. So when you clean your tongue, you're preventing bad breath. You'll taste your food more when it's clean. It boosts your immunity.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It improves your digestive health and more. So we get into the details on this episode with Sahara. I just figured my hair tip needed to be all about the tongue. And for the record, I'm getting my entire family tongue cleaners as stocking stuffers. I don't mean to brag, but I feel like I deserve a medal for my tongue cleaning contribution and during the whole because you know we again everyone knows we do these interviews in advance after she told me I've been doing it every day and I honestly actually feel better doesn't it feel good it feels good it really does you know how when you brush your teeth in the morning but you're still like not wanting to breathe on anyone now with my tongue cleaner I'm just feeling super
Starting point is 00:10:43 confident well I don't know if you know this but a lot of people don't know this and this is a tangent, but I want to bring this tangent up. So when they were inventing toothpaste back in the day to get people to use it, they had to put them in a habit cycle. And there's a book on this by Charles Duhigg. I think it's called Habit. But anyways, they were trying to get people to brush their teeth and to get people to do anything, first you have to present something to them to do that they can do consistently. Then after they do it, there has to be some kind of reward system so that they continuously do it to develop a habit. They put this stuff. When you brush your teeth and it tastes minty and it tastes spicy and it burns you a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:20 They didn't used to have that in toothpaste. They put that in later because it makes you feel minty clean, but it actually doesn't really do anything. It's just for the feeling of feeling clean. Right. But with tongue cleaning, you get an actual real feeling after because you get all that stuff out of your tongue. And so it feels clean. So it's been easy to develop as a habit. I bet you didn't know that thing about the toothpaste.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You are a wealth of knowledge. You've actually told me that about 10 times, but 11th the charm. I'm telling you, when you start scraping your tongue and you get all the stuff off and you have a perfectly clean, pink, red, whatever it is, tongue, and then you start seeing a bunch of these dirty tongues flopping around, it's going to motivate you. You do look at people's tongues after you start cleaning your tongue. And I know that this is really excessive that we're talking about this for 500 hours, but I'm telling you guys, it makes a huge difference. So buy one for all your friends and family. Just make sure you use thrivemarket.com slash skinny for a free
Starting point is 00:12:11 tongue cleaner or 10. You get free $60 in groceries plus free shipping. Hard to beat. Hard to beat. Sahara Rose is the bestselling author of The Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda and has been called a leading voice for the millennial generation into a new paradigm shift by Deepak Chopra. She's a 27-year-old certified Ayurvedic holistic and sports nutritionist, as well as a wellness blogger and the host of The Highest Self podcast, which is listed as the top seven podcast by Yoga Journal. She really is a wealth of knowledge knowledge guys. I learned so much from her. Her mission is to awaken people from their innate potential so that they can share their gifts and fulfill their purpose on the planet. She has so many tips for morning routines,
Starting point is 00:12:56 nighttime rituals. I learned a lot of tools and tactics. And most importantly, we talk about tongue cleaning. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Okay. Hey, we're live. Well, the first thing I feel like we need to ask you is about our doshas, since we don't know what those are. And can you just tell us what a dosha is before we hop into ours? Yeah, let's do the idiot's guide to doshas
Starting point is 00:13:25 so the word dosha means energy in sanskrit and there's five main elements that it's based off of air space fire water and earth and together they create the three doshas so vata is air and space pitta is fire and water and kapha is earth and water. So to make it simple, vata think wind, pitta think fire, kapha think earth. Okay. Okay. So people who are more vata in their minds, like let's say I was like, oh, she's so airy. What do you think they're like? The earth. No, if I was like, if I was like, I have a friend, but she's super airy. Like, what do you think that their personality would be like? Okay. But you have to say the names again for me to say what it is. No, like if I was describing someone as an airy person, what would an airy person be like? I don't, I don't know. Have you like,
Starting point is 00:14:14 okay. Airy would be like light energy. Yeah. Like maybe they're super spacey. I thought you're asking me what's dosha. Oh no, no, no, no, no. I'm clearly this one. We just answered that question. Right. So it would be like, maybe they're, no. I'm clearly this one. We just answered that question. Right. So it would be like maybe they're spacey. Maybe they, you know, can't focus on one thing. They get really excited easily. They move from one thing to another. So their characteristics in their mind are like the air, like the wind. Got it. Right. So that's me. So a Vata person is that. They're the air energy.
Starting point is 00:14:46 So they're on the good side. They're they're artistic they're visionaries they see things from a big picture perspective so like the other doshas are more like in the day-to-day whereas the vata is like way up here and it's like oh well this is more of the long-term thing like i like to think of steve jobs he has a lot of vata in his mind. He's really like creative and imaginative and visionary. But at the same time, when there's too much air, too much wind going on in your mind, what happens is it turns into a tornado. So vata people are more likely to become anxious. They can overthink things.
Starting point is 00:15:18 They can just worry about things because their minds are always running. So it can be either really productive or really destructive. So that's like a Vata personality. Now in the body, if I was like, I feel like I have a lot of air in my body. What do you think that would mean? That you have gas? That you have bad digestion. Gas, right. Exactly. Gas, bloating. It's just like you're filled up with air. So that's what a Vata person's body is. Like they eat something and they are super bloated right after. And a lot of girls have that too. They tend to have like cold bodies so they have cold body temperatures even though they're cool and their digestive tract is cold which means like they have a hard time breaking down foods
Starting point is 00:15:54 um they tend to be like low energy sometimes up sometimes down so vata is always moving it's scattered so just think of those qualities for vata so i'm a vata i can already tell yeah i can tell you that right now well i can tell you cold as ice yeah so a good way to tell i'll take your pulse but i'm cool like we both have really cold hands so that's vata and i can take your pulse and even just from your pulse like so when i'm look when i'm doing someone's pulse if it's a regular strong thumping pulse that's pitta they have like strong energy in their body if it's more irregular like yours is a little irregular it's not super but a little that's more vata because it's more scattered and moving and if it's like this like slow thump thump thump that's kapha that's earth so just from that or
Starting point is 00:16:43 like from the shape of someone's face, vatsas tend to have longer faces, pittas tend to have more angled faces, kaphas tend to have rounder faces. So it's again, it's like the mind-body connection that sometimes just from the way someone's looks, someone's body structure, you can tell a lot about their personality. So this has been used, like the ancient Greeks used this to set up their system, the Romans used it, they turned it into Chinese medicine. It's been kind of globalized but it's something that we i don't know maybe people feel bad judging people and stuff but actually from looking at someone you can tell a lot about what their personality traits are going to be like i'm going to be
Starting point is 00:17:15 going down the street judging everybody okay so vata air airy okay pitta fire okay so if i was like oh like she's a really fiery person what would they be like pitta right or like what would their characteristics be like um always on the move yeah like high energy can't sit still 20 million questions frantic i would assume like energy kind of chaotic maybe a little bit exactly exactly so like they bring on the fire they they have heat, they're passionate, right? So we can even think of like cultures that relate, like Latin American culture, very pitta, passionate. They love you.
Starting point is 00:17:53 They hate you. It's like, it's super black and white. So pitta people have that. They, they're goal oriented. They see what they want and they're going to go get it. Like even your guys' story, like you saw Lauren, you're like, that's it. I'm going to go get it. That's so pitta of you, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:06 I've been pretty Pitta my whole life, I think. So Pitta people, they are natural born leaders. They need to be in leadership positions. Otherwise, like their bodies will actually like go haywire. So they're strong born leaders. They're goal oriented, accomplished, disciplined, organized, structured. They need to have a schedule.
Starting point is 00:18:25 They need to see what's going on. Like they don't, like the Vata's like, you know, let's just figure it out as we go along. The Pitta's like, no, I need to know. They tend to have like, just like sharper, sharper characteristics. So, you know, they might like someone or not like them. They may be hungry and need food or like whatever. I don't care about food. I'm working. Like it's one or the other. Well, this is, this is really, really gnarly.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I really am glad that you can sit down and talk about this because this is something I've tried to talk to you about. Let me, let me ask you this and then we'll keep going. You can't change. Like, it's not like somebody can be a Vata one day and then a Pitta the next, like, is that, or can you? You can, I'll explain. Oh, you can. You can. Okay. So, so just so we're clear though, I don't, I, you don't even need to do his pulse. He's a pitta, I'm a vata. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. But, but I think you do have some vata in you and you do have some pitta in you because you're obviously like goal-oriented and structured. Otherwise you'd be like, you know, structured. Ooh. Well, to create what you've created, obviously that required
Starting point is 00:19:25 structure which is why you guys balance each other and you're obviously a visionary as well so we're not just like solely one dosha and like not the rest it's like to varying amounts right so pizza people and their bodies they have a lot of heat so i don't know if you get hot easily yeah super easily so is it like always a problem that you're cold and you're hot how did you know that i was just like exactly but that's what happens in vata pitta relationships so you just tend to have a stronger heat in your system so the digestion is literally called an agni which is the word for fire so your digestive fire is stronger so there's more blood moving through your body there's more energy more life force moving through your body which is going to just
Starting point is 00:20:04 make you get hot now i don't know if you've ever had heartburn. Yeah, I've had, I've had heartburn. Yeah. So I don't have it a lot, but I've had it. So when pitta is imbalanced, there's too much pitta, you start experiencing heartburn and literally think of the word, your heart is burning. It's like too much pitta. So if your digestion is a fire, when you have a lot of fire going on already, it's like you throw food into that fire and your stomach starts throwing acid at it because that's how we break down food, right? So then there's too much acid. It moves up your esophagus and it leads to heartburn. It can lead to ulcers later on. It can just lead to acidity in the body. Inflammation is related to
Starting point is 00:20:40 pitta. Loose stools, you know, vatas tend to be more on the constipated side. Pittas tend to be on the looser stool side because things are just moving through really fast. They tend to sweat a lot. If pitta's imbalanced, it's a sharp smelling sweat. So there's, in every part of the body, there's indicators of what dosha is going on. A sharp smelling sweat, like a, like a pheromone. Like pungent. When they're stressed. I mean, when they're stressed, that could mean that they're imbalanced and their pitta is excess. So I don't know if you're attracted to spicy foods. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You're not? That's good. Because spicy foods will bring your pitta even more. They're going to throw you out of balance. So it's really good that you're not attracted to that. Tomatoes, onions, garlic. Do you like that? No.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I really don't that much. I mean, listen, everybody likes a little bit of garlic. You garlic tomatoes. No, listen, I like for flavoring, right? You like garlic on my breath every night when I breathe it in your face. No, I mean, you got to cook with a little bit of garlic, you know, but, uh, no, I didn't really start eating tomatoes until this year and I'm very limited on it. Like I'm not, I'm not that into it. So those things, that means your body is balanced relatively, because if you were craving those foods, your body's out of balance. So in Ayurveda your body's out of balance so in Ayurveda it's like a pendulum shifting in two directions one direction is balance and the other
Starting point is 00:21:49 one is imbalance so the more balanced you are the more you crave the things that bring you into balance right it's like when you're eating healthy all week and it's the weekend you're like I really don't want pizza like I'm good and then you have like a week that you just eat horrible food and the pendulum has shifted the other direction. And you're like, you can't go back to broccoli on a Monday, right? So when your body is balanced, naturally, it's saying maybe you want more cooling foods and more cleansing and simple foods because that's what your body needs to cool down the heat. If you were like, I love Indian and Thai food and Mexican food, then we know the pitta is going the wrong way. And so that would be a bad thing. That would be a bad thing. Yeah. So for you, the cooling foods would be the best thing, like smoothies
Starting point is 00:22:29 and coconut water and salads and like steamed vegetables and quinoa and grains, like simple. Okay. I love spicy. You know what's funny? I don't really ever crave anything. So spicy for you is okay because you're vata and you're cold and you need more spices. So again, that's your body. You have a balanced body that you're relatively craving the foods that you need. Now with vatas though, raw and cold foods are really bad for them because their bodies are already so cold. So things like I used to do all day, smoothies, salads, everything I ate was cold. And my vata became so out of balance that my body essentially was shutting down.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So when I was 21 years old, I stopped, totally stopped getting my period. So I was infertile at that time. I was at risk for premature osteoporosis, arthritis, and Alzheimer's. And that's how I discovered Ayurveda because I was literally in the state of like, my body can't anymore. And I was on a raw vegan diet, which is like the worst thing for vatas. So if you're eating a lot of like greens and just juice cleansing and not eating anything warm, that's what it can lead to. And a lot of women these days have infertility issues and that's related to too much vata in their system. Because we think to be healthy is just to eat salads all day. Whereas that's not a balanced diet. That could be good for a period of time, especially if you have more pitta in you. But if you're already cold, salads are like putting ice on an already defeated flame,
Starting point is 00:23:51 you know? Makes sense. This is why I have a problem with blanket diet advice. Yeah. Right. Where they say like, if you want to be healthy, you eat this diet. I think everything has to be tailored to the individual. And I think everything in life has to be tailored to an individual. You can't, there's blanket advice across the board for one demographic of people is, or like a certain demographic of people is very difficult. Yeah. So what is the third one? So third one is kapha, which is like the earth energy.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So if I was like, oh, she has a really earthy personality. What do you think they're like? They're like, they're like Jordan, like Michael's sister, like go with the flow. Like they may talk a little bit like this. Oh yeah. Let me just connect with you. Like, you know, how do, uh, pitas and what are the other ones? How do they typically get along?
Starting point is 00:24:39 I'm just curious. Yeah. So it's the dynamics between all dishes are so interesting. So kaphas, they're really in their bodies and, you know, they feel things and they want to connect and they want to hear you and feel you. And when you're pitta or when you're vata, you're like, hurry up, what do you want to say? What do you want to do? And they're like, let's just breathe into this for a bit, you know. So kapha people naturally in their bodies have more earth element, which happens when you're younger in your life.
Starting point is 00:25:05 So throughout your life, different doshas form and your childhood years are kapha. So that's when you're building your body. You're essentially building the blocks that are going to last you for the rest of your life. That's earth. Earth is stability. Earth is strong. Earth is, you know, lasting.
Starting point is 00:25:20 You know, we throw all this garbage at earth and earth continues to provide. So that's what kapha people are like. They are so giving. They're so warm. They're so generous. They oftentimes put other people's needs before their own. But what can happen over time is they end up feeling depleted. So you would never guess that kapha person who's always smiling and seems really chill,
Starting point is 00:25:42 they're actually the most likely to suffer from depression. So Robin Williams is a really good example of one. He's making everyone else around him happy, but we didn't know what was going on inside. So think cool, calm, centered, but out of balance, stuck. They can get stuck in their old ways. They may be resistant to change and trying new things. They may have, you know, the same friends for the rest of their lives and like not want to go out and make new ones. Whereas Vatas are like, hey, you, you're my new friend. And pittas are like, okay, is this going to work or not? And it's like, you know, kaphas are like, you know, no new friends, no new friends. They have what they need and they don't, they're not looking for anything else. But if that goes into excess, that can lead into emotional eating and loneliness and longing for the past.
Starting point is 00:26:27 So even in relationship with time, kaphas are in the past. Pitta's are super in the present that sometimes they can like forget about the past and the future and like flip out. And vatas are in the future and they're thinking about what's next. See, because I think that I actually like in my belt like i never look in the past like that's like something i don't ever do um but i do spend a lot of my time in the future right like not really right i'm not like time traveling but right um i think i'm i am present so he's asking is he a medley but no but at the same time i do find like a lot of my thought pattern thinking like okay like what's next what's and i think that's just that's how i've been my whole life but i
Starting point is 00:27:08 but then again i'm also pretty present to myself i just never look in the past i'm wondering like as i'm as i'm hearing you explain these things there's a combination like me personally i don't i think i'm social but at the same time i'm very like content with where i'm at like i'm not right i'm not going around and looking for let let's say, I don't want to say I'm not looking for new friends because I am, but it's not, but I'm also very content. Right. It's not like a priority for you. No, listen, I love meeting people. It's part of the reason we do the podcast and I love being social, but at the same time, I'm completely content where I am. Does that make sense? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like, so all of these doshas, this, this what i'm explaining is like if you were only to be one we are all a combination of all three so your question before of how this can
Starting point is 00:27:49 change it can so when we were born we were born with something called your procreate which is like your natural born constitution it's in your dna so it's like you're born blonde i'm born brown hair some you know if you have kids i wasn't born blonde i wouldn't be able to tell so okay so you're born brunette or even in personalities if you have kids some kids are more outgoing from the beginning some are more calm so that's just in your dna so that's called your prokraty so in your prokraty you have a combination of all three so let's say you're mostly vata secondarily pitta lastly cough or somewhere in between. Some people are pretty equal in both. Some people, some very rare people are totally equal in all three. So you're a
Starting point is 00:28:30 combination. Then you live your life and, you know, maybe you live in California versus living in New York, or maybe you live a stressful lifestyle or a really peaceful lifestyle. And all of these things are going to affect your doshik constitution, your prakriti, and that's called your vikriti, what you have today. So imbalances show up when your vikriti, what's going on right now, does not match with what you were born with. Does that make sense? So for me, you can tell from the shape of my face, I was born more kapha. I have a round face, big eyes, baby-like features, thick hair.
Starting point is 00:29:02 That's all really kapha, child. But in my life, I became a raw vegan. I was like a competitive dancer. I was moving all the time, blogging all the time, active, active, active. But my body couldn't handle it. It was too much movement, too much stimulation. So that led to a vata imbalance, which was like all of those things I just talked about, adrenal fatigue, whereas another person could have done that just fine. It wouldn't have been an issue. So again, it's knowing what works with your system. It doesn't mean you're stuck with that, but it means you just have to like know that there's certain things that you're naturally going to be better at and certain things that are going to be
Starting point is 00:29:35 more of a challenge for you. And how did this come about? Like, give us a little bit like a, I guess, like your book says, The Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda. I hope I'm saying that right. Yeah. It's kind saying that right. Yeah. It's kind of a word. Yeah. So how did me writing the book come about? No. How did Ayurveda come about? Like give us like a little history. Give us, for someone that knows, no idea. Who invented this? Someone who's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:30:00 No, that's who wrote the book. So Ayurveda is the world's oldest health system. It originated in ancient India 5,000 years ago, and it's the sister science of yoga. In fact, the two were always meant to be practiced together. So the purpose of yoga is not to be more balanced or more flexible or have abs. It's actually to become one with source. That's the purpose of yoga. It was meant to be a spiritual practice. You move your body and do those things so you can get into that state of meditation of like pure presence and being one with everything that's so funny that you say that because I had a moment like a year ago where I was taking yoga and I thought I had just clarity mental clarity and I thought this has nothing to do with working out or my body yeah it has to do completely with my mind. And the second I made that distinction, it's changed yoga for me. I love it. Yeah. I don't think of it anything to do with
Starting point is 00:30:51 losing weight or my abs or anything like you said. Sorry. I just thought that. No, but that's what true yoga is. And a lot of us, we try to turn it into, and I have no problem. I love hot yoga and sculpt yoga and stuff, but the purpose of all of these movements is so you can reach that point of stillness. So that's what yoga was created for. Now, Ayurveda was like the predecessor. And it's like, OK, how can you become enlightened when your digestion is out of whack or you have anxiety or your back hurts and like all these like human issues that we have in our minds and bodies?
Starting point is 00:31:20 So Ayurveda is the practice of making sure you're balanced mentally and physically so you can truly go into the practice of yoga. So what we've kind of taken is like one aspect of yoga, which is asana, physical movement, and turned it sort of into this like exercise. But now more and more people are like, oh, what else is there to this? How do I eat? Like I leave the yoga class feeling amazing. What else can I do? Which is why like Ayurveda is coming up again. So the word Ayurveda means knowledge of life. in order to be balanced you must have knowledge of all areas of your life so if a doctor if you go to a gastroenterologist he just asks you about your digestion and then you go to a therapist and she just asks you about your mind and you go to an
Starting point is 00:31:59 endocrinologist just asks you about your hormones whereas an Ayurvedic practitioner what we're trained to do is to ask you about everything because they're all interconnected got it so like the first time i went to an ayurvedic practitioner was for like digestive reasons really and she's like what kind of dreams do you have i'm like why like why are you asking me that she's like are you moving is it realistic like asking about these things and like what's like how do you feel when you think about your parents and all of these things and that has everything to do with your digestion we just don't see the parallels as much but now we're waking up to like 70 of serotonin is in your gut and just like how interconnected the mind and the body are which is why now there is more scientific studies and research and deep
Starting point is 00:32:38 octrope has done tons of it to show like ayurveda actually is really based in science it was actually the medical system used in india until the brit rule. Like that was the only medical system used. Wow. Yeah. That's nuts. So you and I were talking before, there's a lot of things that I do on Instagram story and Snapchat and blog that I actually didn't know originated, I guess, tell me if I'm using the right verbiage, in Ayurveda. Yeah. Ayurvedic. Ayurvedic. Yeah. Okay. It's a hard word to say.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It is. Yeah. So there's things like dry brushing, I scrape my tongue. Yes. Oil pulling. Yeah. Self-massage, face massage. Face massage. Talk to me about all these like niche things that, you know, are becoming popular now and why they're important. Right. So in Ayurveda, if your body is like, like a vessel to this higher source, like the best thing you can do is to tend it. And like, that's why self-care is literally sacred. It's like a, it's like a religious
Starting point is 00:33:37 practice. You have to take care of your body. So the mouth is super important in Ayurveda because when you leave bacteria on your mouth and you're swallowing it, you're drinking water, you're just constantly taking it back in. So I feel like I read this on your blog that you knew that like you shouldn't drink water before you've brushed your teeth. That's an Ayurvedic thing. Someone who ever told me this, it was a reader, said don't drink water first thing in the morning without brushing your teeth because you're swallowing all that bacteria. So when I wake up before I drink water now, I brush my teeth first. Is that the way to do it? Yes. Okay. So, and a good thing, but also to tongue scrape. So for
Starting point is 00:34:13 people who don't know, tongue scrape is like a little U-shaped tool. You can get it stainless steel or copper and you basically scrape like the bacteria off your tongue, the white stuff that you wake up with and Ayurveda that's called Ama toxins. So not only is it good for like good breath, but it actually helps your digestion. And the reason is because digestion starts the moment you put food in your mouth. The moment you put something on your tongue, there's receptors on your tongue that are telling your body, okay, what sort of digestive enzymes are needed? Yeah. How much acid is needed, which is why it's so important to chew your food. Now, if your tongue is coated with white stuff, it's not going to be as sensitive to the receptor. It's not going to send a signal as quickly.
Starting point is 00:34:53 No one wants their tongue with white stuff all over it. Like, you know, well, you know, when like Miley Cyrus did that whole like thing and her tongue was sticking out, all the Ayurvedic practitioners are going crazy. Like there's so much white stuff on her tongue. I don't do any white tongues. If you put your tongue near me and it's white. I'm going to start judging people now. If I'm talking to them and I see a white tongue, I'm going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, partner. Let's get everyone in your family tongue scrapers for Christmas and their stocking. I'm just going to carry a bag of tongue scrapers around. So it goes even more. I mean, we could nerd out on tongues, even where the white stuff is on your tongue, the color of it, you know, pittas tend on tongues, even where the white stuff is on your tongue, the
Starting point is 00:35:25 color of it. You know, pittas tend to have more yellow. Vatas tend to have more gray. Kaffas tend to have it like all over. If the tip of your tongue is red, that's a pitta imbalance. The shape of your tongue will tell you what dosha you are. So it's like just the tongue is like so much information. Let me see your tongue.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It's not bad, huh? Good tongue. Do you tongue scrape? I take care of myself. You tongue scrape here and there. You could tongue scrape more, for being honest you have a tongue scrape i i take care of myself here and there you could tongue scrape more actually i actually tongue scraped this morning and didn't even know that we were gonna be talking about tongue scraping what tongue scraper because we don't have one i have one that's behind the toothbrush you know about some of them you're listen i didn't have the copper one i'm you know i'm gonna go on amazon yeah oh shit he's gonna
Starting point is 00:36:01 fucking so i actually don't use the copper one the The reason is like, it is a traditional Ayurvedic thing, but like also like talk, um, copper toxicity is like a thing that like, I don't know if they thought about it or not. I'd rather just use stainless steel because it's like, you know, surgical grade and it's just easier. He'll buy the surgical grade. Don't worry. I'll be, yeah. We'll be talking after this. I've been, I was just looking through your book and doing like the quiz. I need to be present to this conversation, but then I started getting distracted with the quiz. I started like freaking out here. I'm like, oh my God, like a lot of these answers are like right up the alley. So everyone should wake up and they should clean their tongue first thing and then brush,
Starting point is 00:36:36 or should they brush and then clean their tongue? Okay. So wake up, if you can, recall your dreams. That's a really important thing. Can we stop and talk about dreams for a second? Yeah. We shouldn't have said this. Because I want to, I want to talk, I want to like you, I meant to ask you this when you first mentioned it, you saying like the type of dreams, like they, they say mess with your digestion and everything. Yeah. So without going too deep into either of us, like what are the, like, are there, is there like a segment? Doshas, dreams. Yeah. Yeah. Can we talk about that a little bit? For sure. Yeah. So vatas tend to have really imaginative dreams. they tend to have dreams with they're running away or they're flying or
Starting point is 00:37:10 like they're soaring and it's just sort of like really abstract okay pittas tend to have dreams of like actual real life situations and they tend to dream about problems that they have and like ways to solve it is that what you're having okay well the whole audience doesn't need your whole life story let's keep going okay kafas tend to not dream coffins tend to wake up and they're dreaming they can't recall it i'm starting to think that i might not like a lot of coffins yeah at the beginning i was like oh i'd cough up but there's there's a lot of beauty to coffins too coffins are like oprah energy you know oprah is like you love oprah she's gonna give everyone a car she's so loving but you know oprah needs to take care of herself more you know and
Starting point is 00:37:50 that's her whole thing that she's been really vocal about she's always like someone comes to her door can you can i have money she gives it to them she's so coffee grandmother is so so coffee we need coffers in this world otherwise everyone will go crazy i'm just kidding i love the coffers i don't want to get in trouble. I don't want to have the kaphas out on the, you know, picketing and raging. Okay. So you wake up, you recall your dreams. Recall your dreams.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Good to keep a dream journal, set intentions for the day, gratitude. All of these things are so important in your self-care. Then you, I like to scrape my tongue first and then brush my teeth because then sometimes with the Ama, it like comes out in your mouth. And then when you brush your teeth, you can just get rid of everything. Makes sense. So you're getting that out before you go and brush your teeth and brush it down your throat. Exactly. So then I oil pull. Okay. So oil pulling again, it's like Ayurvedic mouthwash essentially. Um, the reason why we use oil instead of like antibacterial mouthwash is because when you use anything antibacterial, taking an antibiotic it kills all bacteria good and bad
Starting point is 00:38:50 got it and then eventually the bad bacteria flourishes because it's stronger when we use listerine or any other antibacterial mouthwash it kills everything so then the bad bacteria can grow again and that's why it becomes addictive right once you start using it you need it every day otherwise it's like bad breath yeah so oil pulling it's like let's say i'm trying to clean this table it's a wood table if i use oil it can penetrate deeper in the pores and take more out than just something that's water soluble which is why people do oil to remove makeup that's what i do yeah it's my favorite yeah so um so with oil pulling you can just in your mouth, you can get ready for the day. You don't need to like sit and like stare at yourself. You can just, you know, a lot of people
Starting point is 00:39:29 are like, Oh, I can't do that. I don't have time. Just like get ready for the day. And then you can spit it out and then rinse again with like warm water. If you want, you can do it with salt water too, just to make sure everything is out. I love oil pulling for you in the morning because the first second he wakes up, he wants to tell me about every single thing he can possibly tell me about oil pull will keep you quiet for five minutes he told me every dream he had for the last five weeks today you should keep a dream journal yeah no yeah you should keep a dream i don't think i think like an audio journal i would be let's not use me as your dream journal please my dream journal might be a nightmare journal so what happens sometimes i have like super vivid dreams that I can recall throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Like, but like clearly. Yeah. It's all your pizza. You're sharp. Well, I don't know if a lot of time I don't want to recall them. No. Yeah. I mean, every, I, we can go deep into dream dissecting, but they're all represent different
Starting point is 00:40:19 things in different situations that maybe you don't want to deal with or going on, but we can talk about your dreams after. No, I know. I know people get, especially Lauren gets super frustrated. Maybe keep a dream journal. I don't like to talk about my dreams, but I'm just more trying to get to the, like the root of what, like, you know, why, why is it that people have these super vivid dreams? And like, if there's a deeper meaning to it, or if you're going to cheat on me ever, like find someone that wants to hear about your dreams. Cause it's just not me no i don't actually don't even want to talk to people about my dreams right i'm just more i mean dreams are often just segments it's like your brain
Starting point is 00:40:53 decompressing so it's like everything you saw in the day and your brain's just trying to like kind of get it out so let's say you like watch the news or like a weird movie or something that can like alter your dreams which is why it's really important to like keep your mind clean. Like people watch tons of horror movies and stuff. That's super not recommended in Ayurveda because it stays in your subconscious. So like, don't get really stressed about shit that you can't control. Exactly. No, Liz, you don't need to preach that to me. I understand that. Like I believe like the only thing you can control in your life is choice and how you respond to things and how you look at things. So I'm completely clear there. And I, and I fully get, um, you know, like they don't, a dream doesn't fully occupy my brain
Starting point is 00:41:29 and take over. I'm just more trying, I was curious about where it comes from. Yeah, exactly. So while we're on the topic of morning routines, you talk about that in your book, you say to rise before the sun, you say to drink your tea and meditate, you say to practice yoga and eat a warming breakfast. Can you kind of elaborate on that? Rising before the sun. Do you really rise before the sun? You know, it's so hard for me to in LA because we're so bombarded with, you know, electricity and lights and keep in mind Ayurveda was written before electricity existed. So it's a lot easier for them to do, but like, you know, when you're on vacation, just like naturally you want to get back into that rhythm. That's how our bodies were designed. So the doshas kind of cycle on a 24 hour like basis.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So between 6am and 10am kapha is naturally higher for everyone. So that's why when you wake up and you're kind of like groggy and you're sleepy, which is why it's the best time to exercise. Because if you exercise first thing in the morning, you can like break through that and have more energy throughout the day. And, you know, our energy moves with the sun. When the sun's the highest in the sky, we have more energy. When it's lower, we have less. So in the morning, it's good to have something warming, something that will, you know, if your internal body is like 98 degrees and you start your day with something cold, like a cold smoothie. Again, it's like putting ice on a warm fire. So you want to start your day with hot tea, hot water,
Starting point is 00:42:51 which completely proves my point of why I need hot mint tea by my bed on a coffee warmer every morning. Yeah. I bring it to you every morning, but the problem is sometimes you don't, you know, you don't get to it and then you're got your kapha tube messed up and you're just keep oil pulling with your dream journal so yeah so starting your day with some something warm is really good to get your body prepared for the day like a lot of people they wake up and they're like breakfast the most important meal day and they eat something like bacon and eggs or whatever else and it's like your body your body isn't ready for it yet it's like imagine you were just fasting overnight and then you throw on a bunch of food on this fire.
Starting point is 00:43:27 So imagine it's like this fire. We were all like camping and we went to sleep and the fire like went out overnight. It's like a little bit. And then we wake up and we like throw bricks on it. The fire is going to go out. You threw some bacon and eggs on there. No, but I did this morning wake up and have, um, oh wait, no, that was not this morning. I was thinking I had tea, but it was not this morning. So you should wake up and have a cup of tea. Yeah. Something
Starting point is 00:43:48 warm. Or hot lemon water. Lemon water, tea, whatever. I love to do a mixture of turmeric, ginger, black pepper, ashwagandha, which is an adoption. I'm sure you've heard of it. And collagen. I keep it in. Yeah. I just keep like, I mix, I can make it for you. I just mix it together in my bag. And then even if I'm traveling or something, just put a scoop that a teaspoon of that in hot water and that's it. So you already have that all mixed up together. Yeah, it's super easy. Yeah, I just carry it like a bag or like a little in a little bag. Exactly. Smart. So it's like you don't need to like reach into all these different things and you're not going to do it. Just put it all in one and you're good. And since I have more kapha, I don't eat breakfast because for me, since kapha is high in the morning and then I eat breakfast,
Starting point is 00:44:29 I'll get more tired throughout the day. So for me, it's much better to like go exercise or something like that and then come back and eat like lunch. Like intermittent fasting is a big part of Ayurveda too. Whereas if you have a lot of vata, that's probably not a good idea because for you, your energy levels are going to get too scattered. Your, your blood sugar level levels are going to move up and down. Pitta's can't intermittent fast. They just shouldn't be like fighting against their hunger. Like if you're ravenously hungry, eat, but if you're not, then it's okay. So Lauren talks about this all the time. She says, I'm not attached to food. And I don't think that it's that I'm not attached to food. I love food. I love good food, but there's just certain times where I'm just like, I just am not hungry. Like I don't, I don't need to eat. I'm not like,
Starting point is 00:45:08 it's not a, it's not a thought that's like occurring over and over in my head. Right. But when I'm hungry, then like, I get like ravenously hungry and I'm like, I got to eat. Are you hijacking another interview for yourself? I like to get, I need, I like to find the answers. But I'm wondering like for some, for certain people, like if they just don't have that craving and they're not hungry, like it's not necessarily. Are you like eating like one meal a day or are you still eating? No, no, no. Like I think I still need to have the three meals a day, but I'm definitely the type of person that can get involved in something. Like maybe I'm at work and then I forget to eat lunch, right. Cause I'm just like so focused on what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:45:42 But the downside of that is then all of a sudden I'll be like. Then you'll be super hungry. Yeah. And then a lot of times that leads to bad eating. Chipotle specifically. Yeah, sometimes. But it's not that I'm trying. I just literally like forget to eat.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And people, Lauren gives me shit about that. But like sometimes it's just not on the top of mind if I get focused on something else. Well, it's because you're so in your head and you're just not in your body at that time that your body is like, I'm hungry and you're just not really listening. So is that a bad thing? Yeah, you should have some sort of schedule for yourself.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I know it's hard, but it's like when you sleep at a certain time, your body gets tired at that time. It's the same as eating. When we eat, our body gets ready for it two hours before it starts secreting the digestive enzyme. It prepares the correct environment. So if we're kind of eating randomly throughout the day, our body doesn't know when to expect food, when to digest, and our digestion is going to suffer. And Ayurvedic digestion is like everything. Cause if you have strong digestion, you're going to absorb nutrients. You're going to eliminate, like it's the most important thing. So that's why having some sort of schedule. So maybe set a reminder on your phone
Starting point is 00:46:40 or something like, Hey, like 30 minutes eat and then move on. I need to do something. It's definitely, I would say in my life right now, it's probably like something like my weakest thing. I really need to get my diet under control. What are some vegetables that each of these, I don't want to call it signs. What do you call it? Doshas. Doshas. Yeah. What are some vegetables that you recommend for each one? Yeah. So vatas, since they're super airy, they need root vegetables. So literally things that are grown under the ground are gonna ground their energy. So sweet potatoes and ginger and turmeric and butternut squash and pumpkin.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Beets. Yeah, beets. Anything that's like a fall vegetable, you know, vata is the highest in fall. So what does earth provide us in fall? It naturally provides us these things. So that's what's amazing. You just look at what season it is and you got that pitas it's hot so in the summer earth naturally provides us with like leafy greens and juicy fruits and like lots
Starting point is 00:47:34 of herbs and like cooling foods it doesn't mean all raw it can be like lightly steamed but you just don't want it to be like fried or like spiced you you know? So cucumbers, mint leaves, parsley, broccoli, anything cruciferous, cauliflower, kale, all that's going to be really good for pitas. Now kaffas, they tend to be more like stuck. They tend to gain weight the most easily. So for them, like a lot of sweet potatoes and avocados are going to be too much for them, too dense. So for them, they need something that's more light, more stimulating, more like astringent, which is the taste. So like asparagus and Brussels sprouts, a lot of bitter vegetables in terms of fruit, just like berries and pomegranate, not so much like the bananas and mangoes.
Starting point is 00:48:14 It's just too sweet for them. And is there somewhere that the audience can go if they're listening to this interview right now to kind of find out their dosha? Yeah. No, on my website i have a quiz that you can take can you just tell them that really quick as we keep talking yeah so it's i am sahara rose.com um sahara like the desert and you can just go on it and it will separate the results between your mind and your body because what i found when i was practicing
Starting point is 00:48:39 is some people are totally one thing in their body and another thing in their mind so like what do they do so i've separated the results and I recommend following the lifestyle suggestions for the mind and the food suggestions for the body. So you can really cater it to what's going on for you. Amazing. This is, you know, I'm looking at your book right now and this is going to be super helpful for me. Yeah, this is really, really cool. Because it's telling me what types of, like my biggest thing is like trying to figure out all these different things to eat. Do you want to do a consultation? I'm basically doing it right now.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Okay. So I want to go back to kind of, um, not the beauty, but the beauty niche of wellness. I guess it's beauty wellness. Uh, let's talk about a little bit more facial massage,
Starting point is 00:49:18 dry brushing. We talked about tongue scraping. Um, and also, uh, I think I saw oil massage. Yeah. And a Bianca self oil massage. Okay. Can Abhyanga, self-oil massage. Okay,
Starting point is 00:49:26 can you kind of elaborate on all three of those? Yeah, so in Ayurveda, you know, your skin is your largest organ, so it's really important to continually nourish it. So dry brushing is a really good practice to remove dead skin cells from the surface of your pores, and the reason why it's more effective than doing it when it's wet, because when it's wet, everything gets stuck, and it's really hard to remove like the dead skin cells and you'll notice it when you're dry brushing lots of dead skin is coming off so when you dry brush you always want to be moving towards your heart never away long strokes and then when you're on your joints like your elbows or your knees you want to go in circular motions and you can even lightly do it on your stomach counterclockwise
Starting point is 00:50:01 which is the direction of your digestion oh that i I didn't know that. So when you're doing your stomach, you go in circles. Exactly. The direction. So counterclockwise. That's why whenever I dry brush you, I dry brush them in the shower because I'm obnoxious. I always go up to your heart. So I feel like you should be really blessed. You have a wife that does that for you in the shower. Just remember to go counterclockwise on my stomach. So if you're up by, if you're above the heart, you go towards the heart as well. Exactly. And you don't really want, you know, your neck is kind of too sensitive. I wouldn't want to do it on my neck or on my face, but just like your body, like below the shoulders. Um, and then a really good thing after is to do a
Starting point is 00:50:40 which is self oil massage. So the best for Vata is a sesame oil because it's really warming and grounding. For pitta is coconut oil. And for kaphas, they can decide based on the season, but they could also do mustard oil, olive oil. That works for kaphas too. Again, it's not like you're going to die if you do coconut oil in your vata. Like it's not a big deal. That's just like the optimal. Well, it looks like we're gonna have to get out more coconut oil, Lauren. That's his favorite. No, we're going to have to use sesame seed oil. Sesame for you, coconut for me. You be in the corner by yourself. I want to talk about my ride or die facial massage. You and I were talking about it a little before this podcast. Yeah. So facial massage is super important in Ayurveda because
Starting point is 00:51:20 it's stimulating your lymphatic drainage system. We have so much puffiness that's stuck in our systems and we have certain points called marma points in Ayurveda. So it's like certain areas you can touch. So you want to go above on your eyebrows like this. Like imagine for listeners who can't see, I'm going along my eyebrow, above my eyebrow. And then you want to go again up, like as if I'm putting on eye cream. So from the front of your eye to the outside of your eye. Yeah, I feel like you always want to go up underneath your eye because you're pulling it up. Exactly. Instead of pulling it down.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Exactly. And then again on the face, it's like up above the cheekbones. And then the neck you want to go down. So it's similar to like J-rolling or the Koreans have gua sha. I think it's another technique. But again, you want to make sure your fingers are lubricated. You don't want to be doing it dry because it could be really harsh on your skin. There's another amazing practice that you might love. It's called Shiro Dara. It's like a third eye activation. I'll show you pictures I just did
Starting point is 00:52:19 in India. You lie down and they pour hot oil on your third eye for 30 minutes. And you just feel like you literally have like an out of body experience because it's just this warm sensation of oil. And it's like kind of like going all over your face and your hair and they're like massaging your head and your face at the same time. And it's like, you literally, it's like orgasmic. It's so amazing. It sounds like, can you do that to me tonight, Michael, with sesame seed oil? You're going to have like a lot of, it's like you have this like funnel and it's, you're just lying down and oh, and it swings like a pendulum like this. So it's like hitting all of, cause we have so many nerve endings right here.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Wow. I bet that was amazing. I'm sure they do it. I'll find a place in LA. You can get it done. What is it called? Shirodhara. Shirodhara.
Starting point is 00:53:01 So it's, so we have chakras, which are energy centers in our bodies. And the energy center here is your third eye and that's in charge of intuition so when you do it you become a more intuitive person you can like pick up on people's energies better and like that's the reason like why some people survive in life and some people don't some people are sharp and they can pick things up whereas some people are like you know oh i didn't realize he was cheating on me the whole time it's because your third eye wasn't open wow yeah let's go get our third eye open that sounds so amazing oil everywhere yeah and then so when you get out you do oil all over the body and massage and that's really big and then if you if you want to like for people at
Starting point is 00:53:36 home like take it a step further then you can get in a hot shower so you can let the oil penetrate deeper in your pores and then you can kind of rinse it off and then afterwards if you want again if you have dry areas you can put that back into your body, but it's nice to take a hot shower, be in a steam room with the oil on because it can just go so much deeper and you'll notice you don't get dry as often. Wow. That is so amazing. So tell everyone a little bit, like a little summary of your book. If they have never heard of this or if this is the first they've ever heard about it, what can they expect from your book yeah so it's the idiot's guide to ayurveda so literally if you've never heard of ayurveda this is your first time hearing about it it's the
Starting point is 00:54:14 perfect book for you it starts really really simple of what it is what the words mean i have a whole chapter on ways that you're probably already practicing ayurveda and you don't know and then it goes deeper and deeper and deeper. And then I start talking about like layers outside of your body and like all of these crazy, more spiritual things, but it's all interconnected. I have chapters on like, what's your digestive type? What kind of nutritional imbalance do you have? I'm a nutritionist. That's what I studied. So I really love blending in like science and there's tons of research to show that like, this isn't just like this like far off weird, like hippie thing. This is actually something that's like grounded and sustainable and is like coming back into our
Starting point is 00:54:48 our lives because we're so sick of like another trend diet another guy had an idea about something and there's no studies that show that it works like this has worked for 5 000 years so chances are we have a lot to learn from it no and for me like this type of stuff makes a lot of sense because it's it's done at the individual level, right? Where it's not like, okay, like this is a trend or a new thing. Like this is, this is something that you can take in and look at as an individual and apply to your own life individually as opposed to blanket. Yeah. I think that's why like we have so many health issues. It's because it's this like one size fits all approach where it's like, everyone must be keto. Everyone must be paleo. Like if you're
Starting point is 00:55:24 cough, you're trying to lose weight, you become keto. You're going to gain a lot of weight, you know, because you can't do the fat. If something works for, let's say my body type, it's not going to be the same for you. And it's not gonna be the same for Lauren. We're all applying the same thing. And even you're changing all the time too. So what is this OGES enhancing tonic? Yeah. So OGES means like life force. You can tell if someone has Ojas because like their eyes are like shiny, you know, people who just look healthy, right? So that means they're high in Ojas. So an Ojas Enhancing Tonic would be something that creates the Ojas. So I think the one I put in there had like dates and almond milk and almonds and things that bring
Starting point is 00:56:01 life force back into your body. You guys, there's this tonic in her book that's like almonds and cinnamon and rose petals and saffron. And it's kind of like a witch doctor. I can't wait to try this. Yeah. This is so amazing. That was so, so cool to have you on the show. Thank you so much. Where can everyone find you and where can they find your book?
Starting point is 00:56:21 So they can find me on Instagram at IamSaharaRose. And my website's the same thing. I am saharos.com and I invite them to take the quiz. I have tons of just free resources and eBooks and stuff to download. And if they have any questions, they can feel free to email me. And the book, they can get it where? Amazon? Like Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, wherever books are sold. We'll link everything too in the show notes. Thank you so much for coming on, Sahara. This is so cool. Thank you so much for coming on Sahar. This is so cool. Thank you. Before you guys go, I have a couple of things. Do you want a short, fun, festive email from me? Tipsy Thursday is a
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