The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #111: Kristin Cavallari - Parenting, Routines, Reality TV, & The Grieving Process

Episode Date: April 24, 2018

On this episode we sit down with former and current reality star turned mom and entrepreneur; Kristin Cavallari. On this episode we discuss parenting, work out routines, the grieving process, healthy recipes, reality TV evolution, haters, and morning routines.  To learn more about Kristin Cavallari click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE This episode is brought to you by RITUAL Forget everything you thought you knew about vitamins. Ritual is the brand that’s reinventing the experience with 9 essential nutrients women lack the most. If you’re ready to invest in your health, do what I did and go to www.ritual.com/skinny  Your future self will thank you for taking Ritual: Consider it your ‘Lifelong-Health-401k’. Why put anything but clean ingredients (backed by real science) in your body?  The Propel Co:Labs Fitness Festival is a one-of-a-kind fitness experience that combines the hottest workouts in the country with live musical performances alongside more than 40 mash-up workouts led by the industry’s top instructors and studios.  Come join me at Propel’s Co:Labs Fitness Festival in LA, May 5-6 at Quixote Studios in West Hollywood. Head to www.propelcolabsLA.com/skinnyconfidential and use code THESKINNYCONFIDENTIAL10 for $10 off a ticket to the festival. This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis. They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to receive $60 of FREE organic groceries from Thrive Market + free shipping and a 30 day trial!" Keep in mind that Thrive Market's  prices are already 25- 50% below retail because they cut out the middleman. And now they are offering $60 off free organic groceries!  

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This episode is brought to you by Ritual. So it's funny because in this episode, Kristen Cavallari talks about the importance of an omega-3. And I recently added a multivitamin to my routine. And guess what's in it? Well, there's a lot in it, but it's also filled with the standout star omega-3.

And thank god, because it doesn't have that fishy taste. You know what I mean? It's more like a minty situation, which we'll talk more about. You should also know that Ritual is vegan, sugar-free, non-GMO, gluten-free, and allergen-free. It's made in the USA without synthetic filters or colorants. Anyway, I'm trying it for a long-term thing,

and I'll update you guys along the way, but so far, I'd give it an A. Ifterm thing, and I'll update you guys along the way, but so far, I'd give it an A. If you're ready to reinvest in your health, do what I did and go to ritual.com slash skinny. That's ritual.com slash skinny. Consider it your lifelong health 401k. Why put anything but clean ingredients in your body? Go to ritual.com slash skinny. Hey guys, I also wanted to tell you real quick that Michael and I will be at the Propel Co Labs Fitness Festival. It's on May 5th and 6th, and it's at the Coyote Studios in West Hollywood. So let's hang out. There's going to be complimentary hair braiding, guided meditations, massages, and more. Bring your friends. And for those of you who don't

know what it is, the Propel Collapse Fitness Festival is a one-of-a-kind fitness experience that combines the hottest workouts in the country with live musical performers from stars like Ludacris. Oh my God, I love that. Also, Juliana Hogue will be there, Harley Pasternoff, Gunnar Pedersen, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, and so many more. There'll be tons of fun workouts led by the industry's top instructors. So if you want to join us, just head to www.propellcolabsla.com slash skinnyconfidential and use code the skinnyconfidential10 for $10 off a ticket to the festival. That's www.propellelcollabsla.com

slash skinnyconfidential and use the code skinnyconfidential10. You can pick our brain when you see us about blogging or podcasting or just say hi and have a cup of Propel. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur.

A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. I've seen a lot of mediums or like, well, like I even did Tyler Henry on E and I've seen a few other people like him and they just say stuff that is so, so accurate and just no one would know unless they could talk to my brother in some sort of way. And like shit that like, it's just beyond. Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential him and her show. If you're new to the show, thank you for joining. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Kristen

Cavallari. Many of you are familiar with Kristen from her time on Laguna Beach and or the Hills. She's now a mom married to a former NFL quarterback with three kids. She's getting ready to appear on her new show, Very Cavallari. On this episode, we discuss parenting, workout routines, haters, the grieving process, food, and morning routines. So for those of you who are new to the show, I'm Lauren Everits. I'm the creator of The Skinny Confidential, which is a blog, a brand, a book, and obviously a podcast. The Skinny Confidential has become a resource for women all over the world, which has turned

into a huge community of hundreds of thousands of women, especially on Facebook. You guys are all connecting. It's super, super cool to watch. And I'm Michael Bostic. I am an entrepreneur and business operator. I am the rock star in this relationship. Podcast extraordinaire. No, Lauren, she's giving me the death stare. Okay. Nevermind. I came a little too hot on that one, guys. I was trying to switch up my introduction and yeah, Michael Bosick, entrepreneur, businessman. Let's tone it down. Let's not make the wife pissed off. You also need to really brush up your eyebrows today. They are so down. They're covering your eyes. This is a rare day for me today and this is gross, but I have not showered all day today. That's super rare you

never do that it's thrown my whole fucking day off because usually i get up i'm a two shower day kind of guy but i just today i don't know my i'm off on this monday i didn't get a workout in i ate like shit today yeah you ate like a buttery thick chocolate croissant for breakfast like what a way to start the day like a garbage can today like a garbage can today. Anyways, I'm going to, I'm going to kick it into gear tomorrow, but this, it's a rare occurrence for me. If I don't get a shower in, I'm like basically throw that whole day in the trash. I just did an Instagram post about how I haven't washed my hair in a week. I don't mind. I don't need to wash my hair. I need to wash my body. I need to wash it. But if I don't, I'm telling you, if I don't get a shower in first thing, like that's my, you know,

that's my thing that starts my day. That's my reset. You got to scrub your penis and your balls. Yeah. Everything. And if I, if I don't get that shower in, I'm basically, I'm telling you my day is trash. All right. Well, don't be trying to hug me tonight. No, I'm going to jump in the shower after this. Okay. Another late night podcast introduction. Here we are. Michael just pulled me out of bed. I was actually up against my silk pillowcase, eating my lox and salmon crackers in bed working on my blog and you just said got a podcast. So here we are. I like doing a fresh intro though for each week instead of just batching the intros. Well we had lunch with your dad this week. We had lunch with my dad. Number one fan Brad. Shout out. I know you're listening. Yeah it's so cute. Yeah yeah it's great. My dad's restaurant's coming soon. I'll say shout out. It's going to be next to Juicers on Highway 101.

And it is going to be some bomb ass food and drinks. Now that we have a worldwide audience, you have to kind of give some context of what Juicers is, not the local juicery. That's true. In Solana Beach in San Diego, California. Thanks, Michael. Yeah, well, I want to give some context.

Some people are like, what the fuck is Juicers? Check that box off. But Brad was saying that he likes how we do the live you know the night before intro because somebody you know some of these interviews that we do are the majority of them now just because we're batching because we get busy um are not you know that we didn't do this interview yesterday we did it last week and um actually we did two interviews last week and so you know the intros that we put in are always fresh and new. See, I'm telling you, no shower, no shower.

I'm all fucked up. And if you guys don't know what batching is, you can Google the skinny confidential batching. And I did a whole post on why we batch. So we've been in LA a lot. We actually spoke at a law school on Friday, which is just so ironic on so many different levels. I don't even know what to say. I opened it up. I said, you know, when a businessman speaks in front of a panel of lawyers,

you believe the worst has happened. But luckily we were speaking on all good things. Don't worry, we weren't giving law advice. We were talking on marketing and influencer marketing and podcasting and contracts. We talked a little bit of contract stuff, but more how it pertains to businesses. So thanks to Loyola Law School for having us. Yeah, that was fun. That was a plot twist for us. Never thought I'd be speaking at a law school. Okay, so let's talk about our new sponsor, Ritual. Okay, so earlier I said I've committed to taking a multivitamin. I've been trying this out quietly for the past month and I have to tell you guys I am very much about it. Here's why I like it. It's this vitamin that's all in one. So think about all the essential vitamins that women need like vitamin K2, vitamin

D3, you know I love this one and need this one, B12, one of my favorites, boron, iron, vitamin E, magnesium, folate, and omega-3. It's basically all of those in one pill. Okay, so we'll talk about the importance of omega-3 within this episode a lot, and even Kristen shares her loyalty to it, but let me give you some background on the multivitamin situation. I want you guys to know exactly what's in it because that's what really sold me on Ritual. So it's vegan, sugar-free, non-GMO, gluten-free, and allergen-free. It's made in the U.S. without synthetic filters or colorants.

And there's these little beads. It's kind of like this formation that keeps the dry ingredients separate from the oils within the capsule. So you only have to take one pill. It's mint-scent scented and this is really cool. So the mint scent is in an in-bottle tab enriched with pure peppermint oil. I feel like this is such a good idea. I'm obsessed with the minty smell of it and it also has this taste. There's no chalky vitamin BS. It's just super mintish when you open it, when you taste it, everything. I like to take one in the morning and one at night.

And I actually, to keep it efficient, keep ritual by my tongue cleaner to just streamline the whole thing. So I wake up, I clean my tongue, I take a ritual. And then at night, I go to bed. I actually clean my tongue at night now lately too, Michael. I'm all about it. I'll clean the tongue whenever you can. Let's keep the hints coming since you haven't taken a shower today. I did clean my tongue today though. I do that without fail now because I can't stand those yellow tongues. Well, I've pushed ritual towards Michael's tongue cleaner. So hopefully he gets the hint today. You can visit their website and you'll learn everything from why each ingredient is beneficial to even where it's sourced so i actually went on their site i pulled out my notepad i did my research

i checked out everything it's a super easy site and it's really easy to read it explains every single detail down to the ingredients the research the why the what the brand is about kind of everything so what i like about ritualitual of the Best though is it's really, really easy. There's nothing crazy here. It's straight to the point. It's subscription based. It's $30 a month and delivered straight to your door. And I thought this fact was fun. If you buy an omega-3 at the store, it's going to cost almost as much as the bottle. So instead of just buying the omega-3 and having all these vitamins everywhere, you get nine essential vitamins in one shebang, one pill. It fills in the gaps within your diet. And again, it comes with the best source ingredients. So also you should know that

everything is backed by science. Sometimes stuff can get sort of sketchy online, but this has completely proved itself to have traceability and the ingredients that work best in the body. If you're ready to invest in your health, do what I did and go to ritual.com slash skinny. Consider it your lifelong health 401k. Why put anything but clean ingredients, all backed by real science, in your body? Go to ritual.com slash skinny. So I want to jump straight into the him and her tip of the week. And my tip this week, I hope it will lead people to the right path. I don't know if it will, but it's stuff and something to think about. So one of the topics that came up when we were speaking at Loyola Law School was the internet space, and particularly the influencer slash blogger slash YouTube space being saturated.

And people were asking, okay, well, I'm trying to advertise online or I'm trying to get my brand out there online, but the space is so saturated. There's so many people doing it. It's not so easy. And I want to point out that in everything where anyone's having any success, there's always going to be saturation. This happens in real estate. This happens selling online. This happens in sports. This happens in everything, right? Like if something's going well for somebody, you better believe that it's going to get saturated. But the point is, saturation is not a bad thing. It's a bad thing if you can't time and strategize the right way. So here's my tip. When you're looking at a space and you're saying, oh my God, that's so saturated. And you know, that's all these strategies that these people are taking that

are common and everybody else is using them. Why just because so many people are doing it, do you feel that? And when I say you, I mean, all of us feel the need to jump in and do the same strategy. Like if everybody's doing it, there has to be somebody that's going to lose, right? There can't be a million bloggers that all stand out. There can't be a million entrepreneurs in the same business that all stand out. Like it's simple supply and demand. So I tend to try to think of things like this when I'm looking at businesses or looking at content or looking at brands is, okay, even if the space is overpopulated or as we'll say, oversaturated, there's still opportunities. And one of my favorite examples is something that Lauren actually pointed out to me about Kanye West recently, which I talked about

in the speech. No, listen, I'm giving you credit, but I think it's absolutely genius. So during fashion week, as many of you know, or fashion month, whatever it's called, all these people do the typical runway show and all the models show up and do the walks and all the photographers are there and it gets all this press and each fashion house has this event and you get all these people to do the typical runway show. What Kanye did this year, and I'm sure many of you are aware, was he paid people like Paris Hilton, his wife, I'm sure he didn't have to pay his wife, and a lot of other celebrities to dress up like his wife Kim wearing his Yeezy collection and walk around in public because he knew that the paparazzi thing. He knew it was saturated. He knew he needed to have a presence, but he didn't want to do the same strategy that everybody else has done year after year. So he thought outside the box

in a completely saturated space and came up with a completely new strategy, which was to get eyes on his brand without actually having to do a typical fashion show. And so when I think, to dumb it down, my tip this week is even though a space can be saturated, that doesn't mean all the strategies have actually been exploited or taken, right? There's opportunities within these industries to exploit new strategies if you're willing

to look for them. But if you're somebody that's, you know, say you're an influencer and you're jumping in the blogging space or you're a YouTuber and you want to get in the YouTube space and you're taking the same strategies as every other person that's had success, that's an uphill battle and that's where you're going to struggle. So my tip this week is if you're looking at a saturated space, look at new strategies that you can take within that space. Yeah, I think it's really important to focus on your own strategy and not always constantly be looking at what everyone else is doing. I actually try not to even scroll through my Instagram feed. I put it away. I focus on my own shit, my own social media,

my own email. And I find that that really, really helps me be the most creative I can be. Her tip. Okay. This is a super, super big her tip. So I have a girlfriend named Julia. She is the blogger behind Gal Meets Glam and her and her husband Thomas just launched the cutest I picked. It's called the Ellie. And I'll tell you more about it. But if you don't know her blog, it's so cute and feminine and girly. Again, it's called Gal Meets Glam. So the dresses are on Nordstrom's. They're also on the Gal Meets Glam collection site. So I just think it's really important to support other women in my space. And I've watched Julia really, really hustle and work her ass off to launch her own product. I think she's had her blog for like eight years, which is super crazy. It's pink and girly and cute. I'm sure a lot of you guys know it. But to watch her and her husband work their asses off to launch this collection and make their dream a reality

has been super inspiring for me, especially me and Michael. Yeah. And I felt compelled to send them both a message because I just know how much work it takes to put, to build something like that. And you know, my own experience is building business. They have a huge battle that I'm sure they're going to be successful in, um, ahead, but it's definitely no easy undertaking to launch your own brand. So yeah, it's not a joke. And I like how they're doing something new in the space to be an influencer and to launch their own product. I think she made all the dresses from scratch, which is crazy. And the dresses are stuff that you can wear to a special occasion. You can wear it to an adventure. You can just wear it to go

bike riding. I would totally go bike riding in this dress. It's like perfect for that. I'm into the adventure dress. An adventure, okay. What does that mean for you, honey? Who knows? Anyway, you guys have to check out her timeless and romantic dresses. They're on her site, like I said.

I picked the Ellie. So let me just describe it for you. So it's very TSC. It's a rose color, and it's kind of like this crepe fit and flare. It reminds me of kind of the 50s, but with a modern touch and the color just fits perfect on my Instagram feed, which you know I love. And it has these like pretty puffy sleeves. I just feel like I could wear it to work, but I could also wear it for like a Sunday

brunch with rosé and prosciutto and melon. Anyway, check Julia out, support her. She is so cool. Her husband is cool and I respect what they've started. Anyways, this isn't a paid ad. This is just something that I was super inspired by and I know that you guys will really, really like the dresses. They're very much our taste. So go head over and check out her line. Okay, guys, as most of you know, we love Thrive Market, not only because they support this show, but because they're just a really great service and brand. They're awesome.

So I was in the office today shooting the shit with my team and talking about how I never go to the grocery store anymore. For those of you that have listened to this podcast for a while, you know this. I can't stand the grocery store for some reason. I think I have childhood trauma from when I was a kid. You know, like when you get stuck shopping with your parents at the grocery store. Have any of you guys had this?

I think, sorry, I'm getting sidetracked here. So anyways, Thrive Market is basically your online one-stop shop for all things grocery, household goods, wellness products, supplements, pet supplies, baby stuff. I'm working on that on my end. Trying to slip one past the goalpost, Lauren. Come on, Michael. And more. They just added a seafood and meat section, which I'm pumped on. I'm getting ready to try that. So Lauren and I love Thrive because they do a ton of sourcing before they offer the

products. They find the best of the best. The grocery store can get overwhelming because you don't know which jam is good for you and which one is going to kill you. You know, you get all these things these days that eat the wrong thing, Lauren, and you're just going to die. So with Thrive, you can rest assured that it won't kill you, right? It's the best stuff. And it's been sustainably sourced. So everything is 25% to 50% below retail because they are selling directly to you and they don't have any retailer markups. They also have a Thrive Market brand, which is super smart.

After speaking with their marketing director and getting the lowdown, I'm super pumped on this section on their site because they've really developed a lot of the great products that a lot of these brands are currently selling in the grocery store. But because it's a Thrive brand, they're able to sell them cheaper and source them more sustainably and build them to the highest standards and create them to the highest standards. So I'm pumped to introduce you guys that because Thrive brand is awesome. Not the Thrive site, which is also awesome, but the Thrive brand, you can check it out. So listen, if you haven't tried Thrive yet, you should. They're going to continue to support this show.

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What do you have to lose there? By going to thrivemarket.com slash skinny. Remember guys, it's a link, not a code. Again, that's thrivemarket.com slash skinny. Enjoy. Kristen Cavallari. So I feel like a lot of you guys already know Kristen. I could tell by the Instagram I posted with her, but if you don't know her, she is a mom of three, which is crazy because her body is insane. So she's written two books. One is called Balancing in Heels, and her latest book is called True Roots.

It's a cookbook. She also has a husband who's an NFL player. Three kids, like I said. She has a chic shoe line, and she also has a jewelry and home line, which is super exciting. She does all this while wearing heels, of course. You also may recognize Kristen from the platform Laguna Beach and the Hills. You guys, you know you watched Laguna Beach and the Hills. Stay fun. Anyway, she's a prime example of a woman who's created a strategic future, and I'm really inspired by her. So I'm super excited to welcome Kristen Cavallari to

the Skinny Confidential Him and Her podcast. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. Okay, Kristen, for the few people who are unfamiliar with you and your history, at this point in your life, how would you introduce yourself to our audience? Oh, God, it's evolved, I'd say. Okay, well, I would say I'm Kristen Cavallari. Currently, I'm promoting my book, True Roots. I'm a New York Times bestselling author, and I am the founder of a lifestyle brand called Uncommon James. I'm also the mother, a mother to three babies. Well, I guess they're not babies anymore. and the wife to an ex football player how do you have three kids and look the way you look like give us some secrets um god well i true this cookbook true roots truly is how i eat on a daily basis so it is gluten-free it's refined

sugar-free it's limited dairy and that's how we eat at home when I'm cooking. That's how I'm cooking. Then of course we go out to eat, we travel, you know, we, and we eat whatever we want. I don't think twice about if I'm eating GMOs or whatever it may be. And that's sort of how I stay sane. And, and then it's, I want to get back on track. So I sort of look at it like I eat healthy 80% of the time. And then the other 20% I indulge, I enjoy it and I have a good time. And then I work out. And I think honestly, it's about consistency. So I try to work out four to five times a week, even if it means I'm waking up at five 30 in the morning. Five 30 in the morning. That's all of a sudden become my new normal. And I'm like, I just said to my husband last night, I was like, when did I become a girl that's up at

5am going to bed at nine? I'm like, that was never me. I tried to wake Lauren up at 5am. I would lose a hand. I found the waking up like a cat or he, yeah, it's not, it's not a good situation. Yeah, no, I get it. So three kids, what's a day in the life like with three children? So typically, well, lately I've been waking up at five 30. I'll work out. I just work out in my basement. So it's not like I have to get in my car and go anywhere, which makes it a lot easier. And then, um, I love when I'm done with my workout before the kids wake up so I can get breakfast going and start lunches and all that stuff. And then they'll slowly start to trickle downstairs and we have breakfast and that's getting the boys off to school. And then I've been filming a lot. So for my new show, which is premiering on E June 3rd,

that's, you know, my little spiel and then so i've been filming um four days a week and i i go into my office which is attached to my store i just launched my first brick and mortar in nashville and so it's an office and a store in one and the we film we get real work done and then i'm always home by five for dinner every night we eat dinner together as a family and i can always count on those couple of hours where I don't have my phone. I have no distractions and I'm just with my family. And then my kids are in bed by seven 15. I'm usually fucking exhausted and I want to get in bed and be asleep by nine. So what's on your table from your book a lot? Like what's something someone could make at home? Maybe even, I mean, an easy lunch is just chicken salad. I have three

different chicken salad recipes. I have a buffalo an avocado chicken salad and a smoked chicken salad um those are just easy weekend meals i'll even make them the night before and then we'll put them on lettuce cups or put them on a sandwich or whatever um i have a duck recipe duck is my favorite protein my favorite meat with a caramelized blackberry glaze which is really good oh my god that sounds so good and i'm such a bad cook no you can make all this stuff trust me get the book take some notes yeah everything the muffins were like that was like borderline for me really no no but it's i'm not the best cook well i'm basically starving chef poor thing we gotta get you this cook i do other things there you go she makes up for it but the other day she was like, she got mad at me because I went and ate some food outside of the house.

I just had takeout. And she's like, what the hell? I cooked dinner. I'm like, what? The one time this year? I'm like, how am I supposed to predict the one day of the 365 days? You're just supposed to know. You're supposed to be a mind reader.

Okay. So you kind of touched on reality TV. How do you think reality TV has evolved? What's kind of the same? What's different? age right like a similar I'm 31 yeah same age so yeah you were doing this back in high school I was in diapers yeah so crazy yeah I was 17 this was I was just talking to our younger sister I said the first time I got an iPhone was like my sophomore year of college oh wow that was I think I saw a sidekick at that yeah so i'm

saying it's early and but these kids have grown up with it and i'm thinking you know when you guys were doing the tv show we didn't have any social media we didn't have smartphones thank god none of this yeah so how has it changed now and saved my life no social media i would have been in a lot more trouble all of us can look a little more dignified i feel bad for these kids now um well i think the world has changed, you know, and that just goes back to your point. Not only has reality TV changed, but it's just a completely different world. I mean, I wholeheartedly stand by if I had Instagram when I was 18, it would have been really bad. Nothing good would have come out of that. But I think from a TV

perspective, you know, Laguna Beach sort of was one of the first reality shows at that time. So even when we were filming it, we didn't really know what we were filming or what it would turn into. Where now, I feel like these kids or whatever, when they go on a reality show, it's like, okay, they just want to be loud and have this big personality because they're just trying to get their 15 minutes. We're like, that wasn't our goal. We were just living our lives. And, you know, we got put in certain situations that would maybe piss us off or, you know, ruffle our feathers or whatever. But for the most part, we weren't there to just be famous or just to, you know, be recognized or have people talking about us and be getting headlines.

Like now everything is so. Or followers. Well, or right. Or followers. Exactly. So I don't know know it's just a different time and i feel like reality shows um they're just not what they used to be they're it's everything is sort of how can i push the boundaries more and more where i don't want to

do that on my new show like i kind of want to bring it back to a really solid group of people and just the normal drama that everybody faces on a daily basis. So for me now with my new show, it's more about like the drama in my workplace and my 24 year old employees rather than, you know, my love triangle or whatever it was. You're kind of like the Lisa Vanderpump of the show. I feel like, yeah. Is that kind of how it's going to be? Like, what can we expect? Yes and no. I'm, I i'm i'm way more involved in the sense that um uncommon james is not even a year old yet and so this truly is my fourth child so i'm very very hands-on i'm opening my first store and you know all of my it's a very small company still i only

have um employees enough to fit on both hands and so um it's different in the sense that Lisa's really well established. Sir is like her millionth restaurant and she's not there every single day. So it's just a very different dynamic. And it's harder for me, I think, to finding that balance of friendship, but employee, because I'm closer to these girls ages. So it's a really tough line for me to like be their buddy, but also I'm still your boss and you still have to get your job done. How do you balance that? I mean, I feel like that's hard. It's hard for me. My assistant is my little sister. It's difficult to like know when to be the boss and know when to be their friend. That's my biggest challenge that I face with it because I do want to be cool

and like hang out with these guys, but they still have to look at me as their boss. Like this is still their job and I need them to get their job done at the end of the day so it's tough you know what it is is i have some businesses and a lot of them have a lot of my friends from childhood that work with them some you know i've had really good experiences with that and also really bad right you know i had to actually sorry miles but i had to fire her younger brother oh yeah see that's so tricky that's tricky so awkward it's awkward but listen we're great family dinners now no we're great. Family dinners now. No, we're great now. And it was actually good. He's doing better things now. And pursuing a career he likes better.

But I think it's all about having that conversation up front. Like, hey, we're great friends. But when it's time to work, it's time to work. Right. You know, as long as everyone's on the same page, it's easy. But if they're not. Yeah, it's really tough. It boils down to similar work ethics, ultimately, is what it is.

Okay, so I want to talk about haters because I feel like with social media, it's really tough. It boils down to similar work ethics, ultimately, is what it is. Okay, so I want to talk about haters because I feel like with social media, it's crazy. So you're well aware that you're in the public eye. It can be brutal. People are mean. How do you sort of deal with that and kind of block it out? It seems like you put your phone on airplane mode and kind of just stay in your own lane. I have found not reading Instagram comments is the most freeing thing on the planet.

That's a good idea. I don't read them. I used to, and I used to get pissed off about the dumbest shit. Not even if someone's being mean. It's like, fine, I know that I've been dealing with that since I was 17. I know people are going to be mean.

But it's more like people speaking from a place where they actually have no idea what they're talking about, but they think that they do. And that was what pissed me off. Even as something as small as like, I don't know what brand of clothing I'm wearing. It's like, no, it's actually not what it is. So it's like, you actually don't know

what you're talking about. And then stuff obviously much bigger than that. But that's the part that would just drive me crazy. So I have just found that I just can't, I just can't read it. I actually turned my Instagram comments off completely for a while. I think that's a really good idea not to look at the comments I've gotten caught up in things where

I'm like okay this is like not productive at all yeah and because too also no matter what you do you can't please everybody no matter what you do so you should right now we're pissing somebody off of course listen nowadays you're pissing somebody off for doing nothing. So yeah, you just, you have to live your life for you and not for what somebody else thinks. That's great advice. Okay. One of my favorite subjects is morning routines. Okay. I just like, I love to know what successful people do for their morning routines.

So can you walk us through like a full morning with you from the second you wake up to kind of the end of it? Like, I even want to know what kind of smoothie you're having, like what your breakfast is, everything. Okay. So my alarm wakes me up most mornings lately. I mean, my, my, I don't have one morning that's all, or my mornings are never always the same, but my alarm typically wakes me up. I will look at my phone. It's usually on sailors, baby monitor, have it on my phone.

And then I'll see me tell my text messages. I'll go to my emails really quickly. I'll check Shopify, which is my online store. I like it. And then not every morning, but sometimes I will go to Instagram, but that has, I've tried to make that not a routine for me first thing in the morning. And then I go, I brush my teeth. I throw on my workout clothes. Um, I'm either going to go workout and then like I said come up, make breakfast. We have everything from an oatmeal bake. We do eggs some morning. Sometimes I'll

do a smoothie. It just honestly kind of depends. It's all in your book? All these things? Yeah. I want to know what this oatmeal bake is. It's really good. That is in my book. That sounds so good. A lot of times I'll make stuff the night before. If it's something like even the oatmeal bake, you can make that the night before and then all you have to do is warm it up.

You're like a planner. Yeah. Oh my God. With everything in life. That's how I get shit done. Otherwise I'd be a mess. I have to write everything down. Like if I don't write it down, I'm not going to remember it.

Okay. Supplements. Do you take any supplements? Yes. Okay. I do a Do you take any supplements? Yes. Okay. I do a probiotic fish oil. And my doctor has told me you want to make sure you're getting more EPA than DHA. Oh, what's that mean?

This is something new. So when you look at your fish oil, look at the nutritional information, and you just want to make sure you have more. It'll say it on there. EPA, 260 milligrams or whatever. DHA, 160. You just want to make sure you're getting more EPA than DHA because EPA helps with inflammation. Okay.

Are you going to remember that for me? EPA. Okay. I do CoQ10. Okay. Magnesium. Vitamin D in the winter. Okay.

B vitamin. And then if I had a couple cocktails, I'll do milk thistle. That's a good one. Milk thistle is good for the liver right yeah and do you have this all ready to go and all planned out like in front of you no I mean like they're in my pantry like in their own little you know and you just go go go go go yeah any protein powder sometimes I think I OD'd on protein powder I was working out with this trainer in Chicago and And after every single workout, he would have me do this like massive protein shake. And I just, it was too much. And I didn't gain any muscle.

So it wasn't even doing anything for me. And what about your workout? I only lift weights. I haven't done cardio in years. Okay. And I just work out by myself. I did work out with a trainer for like two years in Chicago. And his biggest thing was having me do pull-ups. It's like girls don't really do pull-ups and so i couldn't do any when i started with him

and now i can do four and it's not a lot but i'm proud of it but like you have to like really hang and then put yourself back up it's tough i gotta try that i don't think i can do one it's like and you if you haven't done them you your abs will be sore too if you just do like sit-ups pull-ups crunches push-ups like like the prison workouts here. The basics. You really don't need all that fancy stuff. Okay. So you're so busy. You're such a hustler. How do you relax? Is there something that you do to sort of disconnect and turn it all off? Um, no. Well, to be completely honest. So I've been going so hard lately. I'm sort of burnt out. I am in LA. I have a photo shoot tomorrow, but I specifically came early this morning so that I could go to my

little Korean spa that I love so much to just kind of de-stress. I'm going to get a scrub. I'm going to get a massage and I'm going to hopefully just fall asleep and chill the fuck out for a few minutes. Okay. So you're a businesswoman, an author, an entrepreneur, a chef, a mom. What is your advice for moms who want to sort of have it all i need to take notes because he's ready to pop some babies out ready to anchor baby her oh that's exciting well first of all i'm not a chef i'm just a mom who likes to cook i would never in a million years be like yeah i'm a chef i don't know i mean i've had really great training or you know cooking lessons by great chefs, but I am by no

means a chef. I'm just a mom who likes to cook just to kind of clarify that. Um, but, uh, so how do you do it all? I think you have to realize you can't do it all. Um, or you can't do everything perfectly. I think I'm just at a place right now where I'm sort of maxed out in the work department and there's just a lot happening. You know, it's like the new show, the book tour, the, you know, uncommon James is just growing and we're expanding and everything. So obviously the book tour is almost done. So then, you know, my plate will be, I'll have a little bit more room on there. Um, but when I had kids, I just decided to only do the things that I really loved and that were truly going to fulfill me as a person. And so while all of those things do, it is just a lot right at the same time. So I'm kind of looking forward. We just wrapped the show last week.

The cookbook tour is almost done. So I'm kind of looking forward to having a few months of just like chilling out. Okay. So I want to know if there's someone at home that looks up to you, because I'm sure there's lots of girls listening that absolutely love you and follow you. What's something that they can add to their routine? It could be like a smoothie or a resource, something that has really helped you that you think that will make a difference in their life. Oh, God. I mean, that's a really great question. Well, I mean, I guess I really do look at food as medicine. And so with that in mind, I would say don't look at calories. Don't look at fat. Don't even look at sugar, just read the ingredients and then just try to eat real food.

I mean, I just, I, I feel the best I ever have. My husband is a type one diabetic. And since he's adopted this lifestyle, he's gotten off of blood pressure medication. He looks and feels the best he ever has. I mean, so I've truly seen firsthand what a good diet can really do for you so i would say that i would just start reading ingredient labels that's the biggest thing for me what's like something that they could snack on like i know i've seen that you like epic bars do you still like those yeah i do i mean i'll do homemade beef jerky too okay um but god i'm trying to think um like what's like what's it in your plane bag when you go on a plane? What's yeah, I brought even this morning.

I brought homemade bars. I have a bunch. All these recipes are in my cookbook, but I just try to make stuff at home. But yes, if I can't, epic bars are great. Laura bars I love. I'm trying to think what else. I mean, I don't like I wish I had better answers for you. I can't even think of anything right now.

I eat all, you know, hummus and veggies. I do homemade ranch dressing with a lot of stuff. Fruit, I love. Popcorn, we like, we always have popcorn. Muffins, because it's like my kids too. But I'll eat all that stuff. And her green muffins are on the Skinny Confidential, you guys. They're so good.

Those muffins are, I mean, I added dark chocolate chips to them. Oh my God. So did you use spelt flour or oat flour? I used oat flour. No, no, no. In my first book I have spelt flour, but I only use oat flour now because it's gluten free. I think I saw somewhere that you wrote that. I don't know where I saw that. I posted it on Instagram. So good. I'm glad you saw that. Okay. So I really want to know how social media has changed the landscape of your business because that's like a completely different thing from when you were on Lugana Beach. If it wasn't for social media, I would probably not have a lifestyle brand. I haven't paid $1 in ad sales just because everything is through social media.

So I'm incredibly thankful for it because it's such a great platform. It's direct to the consumer and you can really control your image. And so I'm, you know, I'm very thankful for it in that sense. So what's one piece in your jewelry line that every girl needs? I personally really like the cuff. I think you're going to say the cuff killer queen. Yeah, I really like the cuff, you guys. Yeah, it's like it's for the middle of your ear. You don't need to have a piercing, which is cool. So, you know, I, um, I actually just got my second hole a year ago. I was like,

well, I own a jewelry line. I should probably be able to wear more than one earring and I'm scared to get any more than that. So it's a nice way to look like you have more piercings, but you don't actually have to go through with the commitment. What is your, uh, kind of taking a twist here what's your favorite failure um oh wow god my favorite failure i mean i've had quite a few failures like with uncommon james specifically or just anything in general anything you know what i did i did they're so awful this like infomercial for secret bangs and there was like these clip-in bangs that's amazing so wait you need to post that on instagram people will love it as a tbt no like they were so bad that the company was like well we're probably not gonna move forward

with this people were like this is the ugliest shit i've ever seen but we were like because you know those like clip-in extensions like the colored extensions and stuff everyone in my camp was like this could be huge oh my god i was like I don't know they just look awful but okay and it was just horrible but for me for me things like that it just goes back to me just trusting my gut and being like no you know what if I'm questioning something like that I just probably shouldn't do it so it's just validating I like that so I kind of want to switch gears here and if this is out of bounds let me know but I was thinking about it. As we get older, you know, and as we're growing up, we are equipped with a lot of things.

Like, you know, navigate life. You can look to your mother for advice on parenting. But nobody ever sets us up for loss. You've recently experienced a loss extremely close to you. Yeah. What would you tell people who are going through the grieving process? Like, how do you approach that process? Because we recently started talking about it through her, through this podcast and blogging. I'm interested to learn more because I'm still not so comfortable

talking about and approaching it. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, before you experience loss like that in your life, you know, you hear about someone dying and you're like, oh, you know, thinking of you or like, oh, like, but it just doesn't really resonate with you. Now, when I have someone in my life who loses someone, I just, um, it just weighs so heavily on me because I really feel for them. It's a completely different. I just look at it so differently now than I did, you know, over two years ago. And, um, I don't know, it's, it's a tough thing and it comes in waves and I losing my brother has made me way more spiritual now and way more in tune with what I believe and just what life is about and it's just it's made me question everything what's something that you could a resource like something you could recommend

I actually lost my mom and I talked about it on the skinny confidential what's a resource that you've looked to that's helped with your spirituality? Um, I've seen a lot of, uh, mediums or like, uh, uh, not psych. I don't, I don't think psychic is the right word. Well, like I even did Tyler Henry on E and, and I've seen a few other people like him and they just say stuff that is so, uh, so accurate and just no one would know. Really? Unless they could talk to my brother in some sort of way. And like shit that like it's just beyond.

And do you find that that helps? I don't want to say bring closure. That's the wrong word. Yeah. I find a lot of peace in it. Okay. I really do. And between my mom, my dad, and I, especially right after Mike, my brother, died, we had

so many signs from him that I really do think are just so cool. I really do. And so, you know, I think how I've sort of wrapped my head around the whole thing and how I've come to peace with it is knowing that this isn't the end. I will see him again. I wholeheartedly believe in reincarnation. And otherwise, what's the point? Like, what the fuck are we doing here if we don't have more opportunities i just think with each life we have many life lessons but then there's like one overall life lesson okay so i need to see a medium i've never thought about doing that there's a really good one here i can uh can you give me the contact information yeah okay this happened to me when i was 18 so i would love i can't believe i've seen like

kind of a psychic but you have to make sure they're good. Yeah, I don't know what it was. If you don't see one that's awesome, it'll totally ruin your experience. The reason I bring this up is I just think as, you know, we're all getting older and when you're kids, you don't experience any kind of loss, right?

Everything's great. And then as, you know, friends pass, I'm sure we've all had friends pass and family and you're just not necessarily equipped to deal with it. It just kind of comes and bang and like shit, like what tools do you have? Yeah, no one can prepare you for it. It just kind of comes and bang and like shit. Like what tools do you have? Yeah. No one can prepare you for it.

I don't think there are any tools. And I think it's different for everybody. My mom, um, my poor mom lost her brother when she was, uh, my age. She lost her mom the same year she lost my brother or,

you know, her son, my brother, she's lost her. She's experienced a lot of loss in her life. So having her for me was so beneficial. And not only because she's literally been through exactly what i went through but because it was her son and it was my brother like it was just i don't know it just it helped me a lot and she brings you closer huh yeah it really does and just having someone who

really understands what you're going through i just knew like when i was grieving i didn't want to talk to anybody who didn't understand i was just like i you know that's understandable because you can't relate i mean i wouldn't i didn't talk to anyone for like eight years so i completely understand like it was horrible yeah um and it's just it's something i actually haven't even talked about on the podcast but on the blog and it's it's it you don't want to talk to anyone that doesn't understand it almost gives you kind of like a screen between you and other people a little bit i felt like i was in a fog yeah it was it's weird it's a weird experience it really is um well i have to get your mediums like i'll give you yeah i will give it to you okay before we go what's a beauty tip a skincare tip my blog is so much

about skin and makeup anything um so this kind of goes against everything i believe in but i do use a little low dose of retin-a and it's completely changed my skin i have never done botox i've never done anything to my face and so and i mark my words i think i don't think i ever will but um i you know and so because I'll never inject my face or do anything Crazy like that I will use a low dose of retin-a And it helps with skin renewal and I just think I'm just gonna keep doing that Brand? Oh I couldn't even tell you

It could be any retin-a Well I go to this facialist Carrie Hayes in Nashville And I just get she calls them koji pads She like custom makes you these little pads For your face that I use That's a great tip Maybe I need to up the pads and i don't i'm not promoting pharmaceuticals i actually hate pharmaceuticals so i even kind of hate saying it but that's the

truth that's what i that's what i do that's what i use so i like that tip all right so where can everyone find you what's next yeah besides books okay well my show is premiering June 3rd on E, 10, 9 central. It's called Very Cavallari. And it's just about my life in Nashville. And then opening my first brick and mortar. And uncommonjames.com is the jewelry we just launched. Home goods. And then my cookbook, True Roots.

And your Instagram. I feel like everyone follows you, but just in case. Well, just Kristen Cavallari. Love it. And if you comment, you... I will not see it. You will not see it. And I appreciate the follows you, but just in case. Well, just Kristen Cavallari. Love it. And if you comment, you... I will not see it. You will not see it. And I appreciate the nice ones, but...

Can't do it. Don't be a dickhole. Just be cool. You know? Thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. Wait, guys. I'm going to do a huge beauty giveaway for this podcast.

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