The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #113: Candice Kumai - The Japanese Art of Nourishing Mind, Body, & Spirit

Episode Date: May 8, 2018

On this episode we have Candice Kumai on the show. Candice is an internationally-renowned wellness writer, chef & content creator, described by ELLE magazine as “The Golden Girl of the Wellness World.”  On this episode we discuss the Japanese art of nourishing mind, body, and spirit. We talk about embracing imperfection and the Japanese art of golden repair which showcases how being broken down and repairing yourself can make you come out more beautiful than before.  To learn more about Candice Kumai click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE This episode is brought to you by RITUAL Forget everything you thought you knew about vitamins. Ritual is the brand that’s reinventing the experience with 9 essential nutrients women lack the most. If you’re ready to invest in your health, do what I did and go to www.ritual.com/skinny  Your future self will thank you for taking Ritual: Consider it your ‘Lifelong-Health-401k’. Why put anything but clean ingredients (backed by real science) in your body?    This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis. They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to receive $60 of FREE organic groceries from Thrive Market + free shipping and a 30 day trial!" Keep in mind that Thrive Market's  prices are already 25- 50% below retail because they cut out the middleman. And now they are offering $60 off free organic groceries!  

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This episode is brought to you by Ritual. I'm a human guinea pig, so it shouldn't surprise you guys that I'm still testing out the multivitamin Ritual. Very, very into this whole omega-3 thing. But really, it's filled with the standout star omega-3 plus iron, vitamin E, magnesium, and folate. And if you're wondering,

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ritual.com slash skinny. So you know what I'm excited about this week, Lauren? What, Michael? Efficiency. Yep. Efficiency. Stole my word. I love it when things are streamlined. Efficient and saving me time may have stolen your word, but you should look the definition of that up. Okay. So last week I was loading up my Thrive Cart with all my supplies for the week, had my magnesium, my supplements, all my snacks. Shout out to my favorite chips, the Siete chips. Lauren, you introduced me to those, but I love them. I can eat bags and bags of them.

If you guys haven't had them, go and get them. They're on Thrive. Get the lime. Yeah, the lime's good. And the sea salt. And my cheat day cookies, Tate cookies. So legit, Lauren, keep your hands out of my cookie jar. Thank you very much.

So I was picking all my stuff when I noticed that Thrive's meat and seafood section is now up and running. Engines are a go, boys and girls. Here we go, blast off. If you guys have listened to the show for a while, you know we love Thrive Market. They're an amazing brand and sponsor of this show, and now they have a meat and seafood section. If you want a lot of bang for your buck each week and want to keep your man happy or your woman, whatever you want to do, I highly recommend you try Thrive's new organic chicken and sustainable seafood box. Lauren, have you had this thing yet? Nope.

I just got it. It's so weird. So listen, it comes with shrimp, salmon, cod, chicken breasts, and chicken thighs. Grab your seasonings as well. Bang. Y'all be remains for the week. You can make all sorts of tasty meals, salmon meals, chicken meals meals michael you have to clean the kitchen up though nope mimi and you're not gonna have paprika spraying everywhere thank you i'm seasoning and i'm spraying seasons

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especially new treats for me. Happy shopping, guys. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness.

Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. I wrote Keenski Wellness when I had one of the lowest points in my life. The guy that I was dating at the time lost his job and visa and decided to just bail one day. And it was the day before my book, Clean Green Eats, came out. So he gave me a 30-minute notice and then left to the airport one day and we lived together and it was, we dated for years and it was just really, it was something from like a movie and I had to promote a new book. And so I started looking at my heritage and putting together the pieces of like, why am I so resilient through those years of trauma or being treated like shit on TV and media and publishing. And I traced it all back

to how my mom raised me. And so mom raised me with gammon, which is a Japanese term that means with great resilience. So a lot of it is the acceptance of knowing that some things cannot change and you will have to let them go. And we're back again. You've been wanting to dust that one off. Dust it off. Archives. A little rusty over there. A little rusty. Welcome back guys to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. If you're new to the show, thanks for joining. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Candice Kumai. We had so much fun talking with Candice this last week and her cookies are so, so good. It was a wide ranging conversation per usual. On this episode, we

discussed the Japanese art of nourishing mind, body, and spirit. We talk about embracing imperfection and the Japanese art of golden repair, which showcases how being broken down and repairing yourself can make you come out more beautiful than before. And of course, morning routines and productivity hacks were discussed. For those of you who are new to the show, I am Lauren Everett. I'm the creator of the Skinny Confidential, which is a blog, a brand book, and a podcast. It's a resource for women all over the world, and it's turned into a huge community. You guys have to join the secret Facebook group. No boys though. And I'm Michael Bostic. I'm a businessman, entrepreneur, and investor. Most recently, the CEO of Dear Media, a new kind of podcast network. And I'm excited. We

recently just signed a new show. Many of you guys get ready to look for them. You've probably listened to them before. They've been guests on the show. It's the show That's So Retrograde. So welcome to the network, guys, and excited to have you in the studio. Love those girls. They're great. So what's up, Michael? Michael B. Not a lot's up, Lauren. I'm excited to be up again late on a Monday night recording this. I, you know, I'm going to be, I got a new routine down. So I get up early the entire week, but except my Monday nights, I now stay up late and then I let myself sleep in

a little bit on Tuesday morning. So if you're looking for me Tuesday morning, you won't be able to find me. Unless I'm banging around like I was this morning. Well, listen, when I say I'm sleeping in, I'm sleeping until like 8 a.m. I'll be making loud sounds with my facial massager that sounds like a vibrator, but who cares?

How come when I have to get up early, I have to creep around in the dark like a blind man, and I have to feel around for where the doorknobs are, for where my clothes are, and I can't make a single noise, but you get up and you have to rip open the blinds and scream and squawk and crow? Because I do Aubrey Marcus's thing in the morning now. I'm all about it. You've done that for like three days. I'm so obsessed with it. I'm going to do a blog post on it. Don't be jealous. So what you do is you do your first three things in the morning. So it's light, hydration and movement. So the first second I wake up now, I open the shades, then I sit in bed and I do my meditation app headspace for 10 minutes exactly

and next to me is my water with a little bit of salt it has to be sea salt or pink salt lemon I love the seeds in it you get mad about that and I drink my water and I meditate and then I get up and I move my body so don't mean to brag but I'm literally Aubrey Marcus my favorite thing is that the other day I was up for two hours before you, and then you got up and started yelling at me to hydrate and get light. But I had already been up and done those things with the last two hours. And you were on such like, you were on the highest of high horses. And I wanted to, I just, I was getting so frustrated with you because I was like, are you kidding me? You just woke up and hydrated for

five minutes. And also, um, if you listened to last week's episode, everybody, Aubrey would say not to be jealous. And it's all one big thing. Yeah, I haven't got to the open relationship thing yet, but I'm doing his light hydration and movement moment. What are all the ladies saying in the secret Facebook group? Everyone's giving it a no. Everyone's giving it a no? Wow. No go, Michael Bostic. No yeses anywhere.

I would say there was a few. Oh, come on. I thought that was an open group. No, everyone's... I thought you girls were open in there. What's going on? Michael, your friends would be so lucky. I can't see anything that's going on in your group, so I have to ask.

Nope, not allowed to touch my phone. Did you break the code for telling me what's going on in the group? No, because I did an Instagram and everyone asked and we did a poll. The head of the group gets special privileges or what? Girls weigh in. Let's vote on that. Lauren just broke her solemn vow. First rule about the Skinny Confidential Facebook group is you don't talk about the group, Lauren.

Oh my God. You know that. So I'm excited to be back. Excited to get into this episode. You're so absurd, Derek. I can't deal with you. Oh my God. Excited to be here, guys. So on this episode, we talk a lot about struggling and embracing

hardships to come out the other side. And I was thinking about what I wanted to talk about with Lauren in the beginning of this introduction. And I thought that this episode and this time would be a perfect way to segue into it. So at this point, we've interviewed, you know, a lot of really strong performers, a lot of great people, a lot of really top tier, what I would say, I don't want to say people, but basically people performing at a very high level, right? Optimal performers. We've had businessmen and women,, authors, coaches actors, actresses Taylor, I wouldn't include him in this company but he's around there somewhere, doctors

and we've learned a ton but one of the many things that sticks out and a lot of these people have in common is that many of them have really been through a lot of struggles and it's really important I think to acknowledge this because you see all these people that you think have it all figured out.

And when they tell you their stories and you hear about the struggles they've been through, I don't think a lot of them would be in the places they are now without those struggles. Absolutely. I just read a book. I've talked about it before. It's by Tim Grover and it's called Relentless. And the premise of the whole book is how you have to be relentless to get to the other side. And I think that with struggle, that's the same thing. Like you almost have to endure that

struggle or adversity to kind of see the light. I believe that the more struggle I go through in any aspect of my life, whether it's my relationship or my family or my business, I think that it sharpens that muscle. You know what I mean? I think it builds that muscle for me to have more tools in my toolbox to deal with adversity. Yeah. Well, and once you've dealt with some adversity and you've dealt with some struggle, it also calluses your mind and it calluses the way that you approach problems. So like maybe something five years ago before going through a struggle, you look at it like, oh my God,

this is the end of the world. I'm never gonna get through this. And now something, you know, that was difficult five years ago is now it happens. You're like, oh yeah, and I have the tools. I can do this, this, and this. It's no big deal. And I think it's so important for people to,

you know, the reason I read so much and the reason I look to historical figures as examples is many of these people are, you know, were living examples of people that really, you know, we're living examples of people that really, really had to struggle and persevere through things. And when you hear those stories, and you see what life can be like, if you get through those struggles, and you, and you meet those challenges head on. That's why it's so interesting for me to see those examples. I think it's a big mistake when people, you know, look to just success and they don't look at what led, you know,

the road that led there. I think for me, I'm really interested in diving into what made someone get to the level that they're at. Like, what did they have to overcome? What challenges did they face? Like, what hardships at the time do they think were going to be completely defeating that they beat and then came on the other side? And I think, you know, if you're somebody right now that's struggling or having a hard time and you think it's never gonna get better and you think that you're never gonna get through it, you have to look to these examples

because you can get through it. And once you see that there's examples like that and living proof, then it's gonna, that switch is gonna take place in your mind or say, okay, if they can do it, I can do it too. And if you're not looking at it that way, I really think that you should. So when I'm struggling with a problem, what I usually do is tiny little practices that make all the difference.

I like to meditate. Like I told you, 10 minutes in the morning headspace, that's made such a difference for me. I also like to take yoga. I don't take yoga to work out or to tone my body. Of course, that comes with it. I take it more for mental clarity. If I'm dealing with a really big problem, I can go to yoga, step outside of it and gain clarity. And then I also like going in the cold. I love cryotherapy. You guys see me on Instagram all the time, freezing my ass off, but you can also take hot and cold showers. We've talked about this before. Michael does that every morning. He turns the shower to freezing cold and that works really, really well. Reading is another way for me to step outside the problem and get my head and focus on something else. I find for me, the best thing to do is step out of whatever I'm dealing with

so I can really wrap my head around it. As you can see, the things that help me the most are stepping outside of the problem. You know, I think this is advice that's easier said than taken just like everything else. But there's a new thing that I've been doing where I try to focus 90% on the solution and 10% on the problem. I think a lot of times when you're struggling or you're having anxiety or stress, it's because you're focusing so much on the problem and you're going down the rabbit hole of like, oh, what does this look like if it goes wrong? And then this will happen and this will happen and this will happen. And so what I've been doing lately is saying, okay, this is the problem. Let's think about it for 10% of the time. And now the rest of the time, the other 90%, let's focus

only on solutions. And I think when I start to focus on those solutions and get myself out of the, you know, just focusing on the problem, that's when I start to make progress. Again, that's easier said than done. Speaking of a healthy mindset, I have committed, like I said, to taking a multivitamin. So I've been taking it for the past month and a half now every single day. And here's why I like it. So ritual is a vitamin that's everything in one. So think all the essential vitamins for women that we need, like vitamin K2, vitamin D3. You know I need D3 badly. B12, which is one of my favorites, boron, iron, vitamin E, magnesium, folate, and omega-3.

Let me give you some background so you know exactly what's in Ritual because this is what really sold me on this product. So it's vegan, sugar-free, non-GMO, gluten-free, and allergen-free. It's made in the USA without synthetic fillers or colorants. And there's these little beads. It's kind of like this formulation that keeps dry ingredients separate from oils within the capsule. So you only have to take one pill. My favorite part about it though, is that it's mint scented with an in-bottle tab enriched with pure peppermint oil. What a good idea. I'm obsessed with this minty smell and this idea. I just think it's so branded. And it tastes like mint, which is amazing. There's no chalky vitamin BS. It's just mintish. So you should know that I actually keep ritual by my tongue cleaner to streamline the whole situation. So I can just pop it in my mouth after I clean my tongue. So the other day I was brushing my teeth and I look over at Michael's tongue cleaner and guess what was next to it?

Ritual. This is so funny because he really does copy me. And I have a tip for anyone who's looking to get your partner into skincare or health or wellness. All you have to do is lead by example quietly. Just make sure you like kind of ooh and ah and make funny sounds. I never say anything to Michael. I just do it in front of him and shake the bottle and say, wow, this minty fresh vitamin. I love it. Okay. So you can visit their website and you'll learn everything from why each ingredient is beneficial to where it's sourced. I kind of did the work for you guys here. I went on their site and checked out everything and it's really easy to read and explains every single tiny detail down to the ingredients, the research and what the brand is about. Also the vitamins look super

cute on your Instagram feed. I'm just saying. So quick breakdown of what it is. It's subscription-based vitamin, $30 a month and delivered straight to your door. That's $1 a day. So you can fill in the gaps with your diets with the best sourced ingredients and everything is backed by science here. Ritual has been on my radar forever. I'm so excited to tell you guys about it. And what I like about it the best though, is it has happiness guaranteed. No questions asked. You can cancel easily at any time. Ritual is the brand that's reinventing the experience with nine essential nutrients women lack the most.

If you're ready to invest in your health, do what I did and go to ritual.com slash skinny. Consider it your lifelong health 401k. Why put anything but clean ingredients backed by real science in your body? Go to ritual.com slash skinny. Are you guys ready? Candice Kumai is an internationally renowned wellness writer, chef, and content

creator described by Elle magazine as the golden girl of the wellness world. Born and raised in California to a Japanese mother and a Polish American father in Carlsbad, California, Candice grew up in a mixed culture home celebrating Japanese traditions and cuisine from a young age and honing a cosmopolitan perspective that continues to inspire her work today. Candice is a classically trained chef, former line cook, former TV host, former model turned wellness journalist, and five-time best-selling author. She also happens to have a new book out, which we will talk about today. Welcome to the show, Candice. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her.

This is Michael. One, two, three. We're getting ready to podcast. This is my water, Lauren. Sorry. That has lemon and salt in it. That's my water. It's not your water. You put salt in it? No, no, no. A little bit of salt, just a pinch. This is 100% my water, Lauren. Aubrey Marcus told. It's not your water. You put salt in it? No, no, no. A little bit of salt, just a pinch. This is 100% my water. Aubrey Marcus told us it's good for hydration. Who knows? Yeah, this is my water, 100%. I've never heard of that before.

Is it really your water? That's what I got. Candice, will you hand me my purse? I'm going to prove them wrong. Yeah, which one? It's the nude one. Yeah. Is there water in there?

Oh, he was right. Okay. Go fuck yourself. Okay. All right. Tell us when, and she's going gonna show us how to make matcha on air just make sure you're explaining it in an audio version so they can they can hear or else they'll dm you like in 500 questions yeah like oh dear yeah yeah you got to get real close okay okay ready go all right so what you're to do is take your matcha powder. This is matcha beauty powder that I created just for Lauren. So it's got a mix of rice,

tacos and matcha and a little bit of coconut powder in it. And that way it doesn't taste super vegetal. And then all you need is water that's been boiled and cooled for about five minutes. So you're going to add that into your powder. We're going to make a mess over the cords right now. This is going to be fun. Susan's going to freak. This is a cha sen, which is a bamboo whisk.

Okay. So the bamboo whisk then goes inside. So she's whisking the matcha. And this is like M and N motions. Okay. You might have married wrong. I don't make matcha. Japanese women know how to.

Once you're done, you should have like nice little bubbles at the top. Okay. You want to sip it with one hand underneath and one hand on the side like so. Or you can just do like two hands like this okay so show us how really quick okay so this is how you always want to hold a match cup underneath or this way you never want to hold it like this all right yeah I love it thank you for showing us that so this is like if you want to try it it's like coconutty with matcha and rice tacos.

It's really good. Marza, are there like paper towels? Oh my God, how cute are your shoes? Okay, this is so good, you guys. It's good. What are the benefits of this? So matcha is known and touted for its antioxidant properties.

What you're doing is you're ingesting the whole leaf and not just a steeped tea. So that means you're going to get more benefits, which is why it's a superfood. So you're going to get vitamin C, antioxidants. L-theanine is like a slow stream of focused caffeine. So the L-theanine keeps you focused and calm while the caffeine keeps you a little bit more alert. But it's not jolty like coffee at all. I love that. And it tastes really jolty like coffee at all. I love that.

And it tastes really, really good. You need caffeine. I need a lot less caffeine, but I'm down to switch my caffeine intake to matcha, right? Really? Yeah. I was in a meeting earlier and the person's like, more caffeine? Like, I need to slow it down. Okay.

So let's back up. We're sitting here with your beautiful book. You have written two books? Three books three this is number six no way yeah yeah i know i know it's it's true though i've been um writing my entire career and so on the side books were always my thing yeah it truly is i know how do you pronounce it because they don't say this let her say how you say it so in japanese they don't say this. Let her say it how you say it. So in Japanese, they say su, right? Kintsugi, wellness.

Yeah, so it's su. It's like a silent T-S-U. Holy shit, six books? The Japanese art of nourishing mind, body, and spirit. I would say your profession totally is an author-writer. I mean, I would find that because the creativity was so open with books that I said, I don't want to do TV. I don't want to do magazines. I want to do what I want to do.

And books gave me the most freedom over the last 10 years to just, you know, they gave me a deadline and a check and said, we'll see you in a year. But you've kind of done it all at this point, right? You're like regularly on TV. You were a judge on, what is it, Iron Chef? A little bit, yeah. You've done modeling. You've done some influencer stuff. You blog, right?

You're kind of a medley. I mean, somebody quoted me as a multifaceted hustler the other day because you really should learn how to change like with the times. And I think it's important for all of us to find what it is that we like really love and shine at. But it did take like the 10 years of like hustling and doing everything to figure out that kintsugi wellness or Japanese health and wellness was where I should have been from the beginning. But as you guys kind of know, like when you're growing up as a kid, you're teased, you look different, you feel different.

And I never thought that this would be my calling because as you guys know, I grew up in Carlsbad, which is right next to Del Mar. Like nobody else really grew up with this kind of upbringing until I meet other people that are like Kat Tanita or even Michael's family probably has the more Japanese looking side where kids are, kids are mean, you know, they dodged, I dodged that. Like they didn't mistake me. But let's, so let's go back a little bit. You grew up in Carlsbad. Yes. You were born in San Diego or yeah. Born in San Diego. Okay. So growing up, what were some of the struggles that you faced when kids are just teasing you about your ethnicity? So this is a great question because in the book, the second chapter in the book is on Wabi Sabi. And it's actually the most popular chapter in the whole book. And it talks about how we are perfectly imperfect as we are, which is the Japanese celebration of imperfection.

So what I talk about is as early as preschool, which I went to Maricosta College for preschool, they had a little program there and my mom would take me there. And I remembered being different from all the other kids, but I always liked who I was. So we kind of talk about how when you start writing, the cool thing about writing from your story and heritage and past is that it's a little cathartic. So a lot of like pain and tears and sadness came out when writing this. And I remembered what it felt like to be on the playground feeling different or being different. And then through elementary and high school, it continued, but it wasn't as bad. But you did see other kids definitely get teased for being Hispanic or, you know, there were fights amongst the different races. And I never really ever felt like I fit in. It took a long time, like into college, meeting other girls at Long Beach State that were also mixed or going to Hawaii or even going to Japan and saying, like, it's OK to be different.

Because at this point in life, everybody can relate to somebody who has a story of pain, struggle or just feeling like they never fit in. Yeah. Growing up, I was always really sensitive to people that got bullied and i really really did not like bullies like in my youth sometimes i'd get in fights and it was usually because somebody was bullying somebody and i didn't like because my mom would always tell me stories they grew up in batavia new york and we were talking about earlier my my mom's half japanese my grandma's full and they would say things like slant eyes and to her my aunts and i just know she like it was really painful for her especially in a prominently white area to to face that and so

growing up like hearing those stories i just like wanted to be really protective of anybody that was still do probably i can attest to that since we've known each other since he was 12 he always uh would would punch a bully in the nose literally i. I have, listen, I can tolerate a lot of people, but I don't, I don't like bullies. He does not like bullies. Remember someone bullied your Chihuahua and you almost beat them up. Hey,

you have good protection, Lauren. He's your bodyguard now too. Lauren's now, Lauren's now my bodyguard. Yeah. Okay. So why did you go into wellness?

Like walk us through of how you go to Long Beach State and now you're in this, you're this huge wellness brand. I mean, entrepreneurial hustler. I mean, this is amazing, this book. Thanks, Lauren. This is a cool place to be, by the way, even though the three of us are from the same hood, like in San Diego, we're sitting in the middle of LA, which is kind of how it all started. So after college, I just fit modeled, modeled, print modeled all over the world. And I took a year after school. And then I was like, well, this is really, really cool, but it's really fucking boring. And I want to use my brain a little bit more because as you guys know, if you have the entrepreneurial genes

inside of you, you always want to be thinking about the next year the next five the next ten so what i did was i started looking at culinary schools because i knew i loved people and i loved um cooking for everyone so i looked at the cia new york it was too far away to keep modeling clients to pay the bills and then i looked at a culinary school in pasadena called the cordon blue california school of culinary arts and this is 13 years ago. And I said, I can't do the CIA because it was way too far from any client. And my mom said, you know, you can pay for your culinary school on your own because you cannot cook for a living. You can only cook for your friends. Okay. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

How are you not an impersonator? I mean, my sister and I have great stories. Lauren's about to cry over here. Oh my God. It's just, no, I'm crying laughing because it's like,

that is Michael's grandma. Yeah. Right. It's always like, Oh, you are not good enough for me. This is okay. All right.

Me and your father are not going to pay for your culinary school. Do you have any brothers? I have a sister. Your sister. See, okay, I think you have a different experience. Because like I said earlier, I could probably literally murder someone in front of my grandmother. Like right in front of my grandmother. And she would say, well, you know, I don't think that was my fault. Or she would say, I don't think that was good enough.

But if my sisters did something, though? It's only to the girls, though, not the guys. That is so mean. No wonder why my mom was always like okay this is okay you know you clap your hands too much on the segment today you kind of smack your lips too much maybe think about that okay bye i'm like that one those would be like phone calls with my mom. Yeah. See, but I was saying like my mom and her sisters got that. My sisters got that. But for me, like I could do no wrong in front of my grandma. That's bizarre.

It must be in all Asian culture too where men get like pampered and women have like the wrath. No, this is Michael. Like we can never be good enough. He would wake up every morning in high school. He's like 18 years old. Like it's time to like grow up grandma would be knocking at the door at 6 30 blueberry or i can't do it or chocolate pancakes oh my god every morning stack for him waiting like and then he starts dating me and

i'm like i'm not making you fucking pancakes you'll make your own fucking like what the fuck i don't have time to make you a bowl of cereal, bro. I think I went the opposite direction. I think so, too. So sorry. Go on. No worries. Too funny. Mom tries to discourage me from going, which is very common, you know, for anybody out

there listening who has a big dream, whether it's to be in beauty, health, wellness, artistry, doesn't matter. You absolutely can pursue it and you don't need to listen to all the naysayers, which can include your parents sometimes. So my mom, when she said that to me, I basically said in my head, watch me. So I ended up going to a La Corte en Bleu program over in Pasadena here, which is right over this hill. And i was studying for an intro to class which was the meats class and i went to the library at school and after i was done studying i crumpled up the piece of paper that i was writing on and on the other side said from the producers of

project runway comes a new show top chef and i was 22 and I looked at it and I was like should I go to this to my college friends and they're like hell yeah you're gonna go to this and so I went to the casting one thing led to another I end up on the first season it's in San Francisco we have no idea what it's like no one's ever seen the show before we just know that Project Runway is a huge success and it seemed like it's exactly like kind of how we were talking about early you just follow every little sign and step when it feels right so we went to san francisco i shot on that first show and then after that um i'd worked really hard cultivating and writing recipes throughout school and an agent picked me up and we started working on

pitching like TV shows. So I became a TV host at a couple different networks like TLC talking head stuff on Cooking Channel and Food Network. And then that led into Iron Chef Judging. And throughout the course of all these shows, Lifetime picked me up on the show called Cook Yourself Thin. And you're just comfortable on TV right away. That just came naturally to you. That's a good question. I think that if you look back at your career, you can kind of see the little things that helped.

So, like, I always loved doing voices. So the mom thing came naturally to me. But I also was really comfortable in front of a camera because of modeling. And I knew that, like, that modeling also taught me how to hustle like a motherfucker people don't realize how hard modeling is oh my god and the reason I know this because you two do it I don't model but I've seen like I've been a part of like shoots and watching

these women do this I'm like holy shit like this is I don't want to do that I would say the worst part of the job is standing in front of the camera smiling for me yeah but you you guys I'd like to be on guys make it look fabulous, though. You know what I mean? And it takes a very special person to be in front of the camera, which I applaud Gigi and a couple other girls for speaking out against all the haters.

Because I'm like, yo, dude, why you got to talk shit on people that are working and putting themselves out there? Like, it is so frustrating how many haters come out of the woodwork and and we have this platform now for people to just write trash on and they should be lifting each other up listen i invite anybody to come stand in front of a camera for 10 hours and tell you it's easy it's not it's no you're like do i have to suck it in how's this angle angle? What's going on right there? Oh shit. My like tit, like fats hanging over this. It's so fucking annoying.

You have 20, 20, 30 people looking at you and judging every, you know, it's too much. I call it 30 for one. You take 30 pictures for one. Or 300. 300 for one. Sure. Why not? Okay.

So go back. You're on this show called Cooking Yourself Thin. Yes. So on Cook Yourself Thin, it's a lifetime series. We shoot like 25 episodes in a few weeks in New York. At the time when I got cast on it, I was a TV show host at Home Shopping Network in Florida. So I lived there for a stint selling like anything to anyone, like ice to igloos. No, wait, igloos to, you know what I mean, Eskimos and rubber bands to anyone. I could do anything. And then at that

same time, when you're really young, you're vulnerable and you're kind of flexy like a sponge. You can soak up anything. So it was a really good time to put myself out there. So nobody should ever be afraid of pursuing what they want to do wholeheartedly while you're young, because that's when you're going to be able to mold and shape your whole life that's like your your platform so i was basically bricklaying um my agent joe labratio at the time called and said you're up for this new gig cook yourself thin on lifetime they actually took me off of the series after i was cast on it i went to a couple castings in new york and then they took me off because they told me I was too young, too pretty and too thin and too cool to be teaching women. Oh, poor you. Right. Too young, too pretty and too thin. So devastating for like a 25 year old

here because it's like, I don't want either of you to ever change. I don't want any woman out there that's feminine and young and killing it to ever have to change. And those comments, now that I can look back on it over 10 years later, are basically from somebody else's insecurities. And so there was a lot of, I took a lot of blows as a kid. Like on Top Chef, that shit was tough. I was 23. People were mean to me the whole time. On Cook Yourself Thin, One of my co-hosts was so nasty to me the whole season and nobody knew. And then our book, though, on the show, when they finally called me back, I was surfing out in Tonga with my boyfriend at the time. And I got this call from my agent that they wanted me back on the series. And I was like,

you're fucking kidding me, right? Like, this is a really good joke. And he's like, nope, you've got to pack your bags now and head to new york so we had to like reroute through um new zealand to la and then i threw out all my bikinis and threw in all my coats and we started shooting in a january but yeah my co-host was not nice my ep was not the greatest person um she i watched people like treat other women really poorly for most of my tv career it took a really brave and special woman every now and then to come up to me and say you're doing great you're you know you can improve here and there you can learn your craft better if you just focus on this a lot of women are just they're trying to push for the dollar, for the numbers and for the people and what they want.

And they don't really care about the personality. So that show taught me a lot about how to how in the end being humble and graceful will always be better than being a shithead. Doesn't that make you want to be just like you said, so much better. That empowers me when someone's mean to me and treats me like shit. And like when I was in high school, the car king, I got my tire slashed. All that made me want to just embrace women. Yeah. Because there's such a need for it.

Yeah. I'm with you. And Lauren, it takes like a really strong woman deep down to step away from the gossip and the bullshit and like there was so much back talking like as in um people talked behind other people's backs all the time on that show and I just sat there and watched it same thing on top Chef um so our book on that series became a New York Times number one bestseller which leads me into how I started writing books but I want both of you to know and everybody listening to know that my book agent at the

time said I would never get my own book until I had my own cooking show. Because back then that was like the thing. Let's talk about like this. So you're very confident, right? Now, maybe. And you talk a lot about being real and being authentic. What do you think the drive for you behind that is like a lot of women and a lot of men really struggle with like really being

authentic and being real like what do you think motivates you to be authentically yourself all the time well michael the thing is is that it took the 10 years plus of being in media and being treated like shit for 10 years for me to actually build the confidence. Because if you think about it, nobody was nice to me when I was on those shows. Nobody at Top Chef cared about my feelings. Like, it was, I had an altercation with somebody who was very mean to me just for no reason for being me. And I know you guys know what that's like. It's like, it's not really ever about you in the end.

Like Don Miguel Ruiz says in The in the four agreements it is always like it's not personal yeah so let's i don't know if you kind of fast track it not the right word right but if there's a young woman or young man listening and you could go back 10 years and give them the advice like what practical steps could they take to find that confidence and and to find that authentic voice and self. So what brings me back always is I say, I wrote Keenski Wellness when I had one of the lowest points in my life. The guy that I was dating at the time lost his job and visa and decided to just bail one day. And it was the day before my book, Clean Green Eats, came out.

So he gave me a 30 30 minute notice and then left to the airport one day and we lived together and it was we dated for years and it was just really it was something from like a movie I think all my friends can remember the phone calls or the messages or the emails that they got that were like um Candace's so-and-so left it was really sad I don't like bringing up his name. Please come to the event tonight if you can. And people were like in shock for me because at that point I went on autopilot. And so what happened was like, as you both know, New York can seem very dark and dreary sometimes. And it looked like that consistently for me. I didn't really know what to say or how to feel or what to do. And I had to promote a new

book. And so it took me falling apart and breaking open in order to go back to Japan. My mother was going and I was going to meet her to say bye to my grandma. So my grandmother, Bachan, was passing away in southern Japan, like virtually weeks after he had left me. And I went to Okinawa first and I just graved the entire time. I didn't know, I didn't wear makeup, I didn't eat meat, I didn't drink alcohol, I didn't know what to do except sleep and just kind of survive. And so I started looking at my heritage and putting together the pieces of like, why am I so resilient through those years of trauma or being treated like shit on TV and media and publishing? And I traced it all back to how my mom raised me. And so mom raised me with gammon,

which is a Japanese term that means with great resilience. And it's something that they are trained to endure when they're young like if a child is hungry the mother will say gaman and the kid knows like that they have to endure and stay quiet because they can't eat yet and then there's also a chapter in here called shikata kanai which means it cannot be helped so a lot of it is the acceptance of knowing that some things cannot change and you will have to let them go is that kind of stoicism right yeah it's a it's a form of it but it's you know a little bit well it's it's just very stoic like totally it's very strong and these are these are

really old school ancient terms another one is monono aware which means the pathos in life which refers to a very light sadness and knowing the japanese people are aware that life will never be perfect there's an impermanence of perfection in life and that things will be difficult and when you're aware of them and you understand they're coming you won't be as disappointed. Like I know now that TV and media full of shitheads. And now when I see them, I'm like, oh, you're one of those. Okay. Note to self. And then you just kind of like in your mind, you say like, watch out for this person. Don't gossip around them. And, you know, button up when you need to. And then you guys have your inner circle, which in the book is called your Yui maru and that circle is your circle of trust that's where you can release and tell people

your deepest secrets or who you have a crush on this week or who you know who you're gonna go um work with on another project like people are out for themselves now and with social media being like at the forefront of all of our lives now it's important to sort of know when to show your cards and who to show them to and when to hold back and i think that the japanese more than anybody else have taught me to kind of be like a samurai ninja in a in a crazy um really elegant and gracious kind of way. Like we learn a lot from our past heritage. And that's why books became so important was I could express what I wanted to when and how I wanted to.

On your own terms. Yes. And I photographed the book too, because I knew that nobody else could captivate what I was seeing and feeling and believing. And that is what got me through those tough times was consistently looking back at my heritage and my roots and saying, it's not about trends and wellness swag or like mesh yoga pants or charcoal

lemonade. It's about heritage, survival, endurance, resilience, patience, humility. You know,

the Japanese culture. you're freaking out michael this is like michael's freaking out he's like he wants he has so much to say are you gonna say shogun no no well there's a it's one of my favorite books of all time it's actually written by a white guy but he's studied a lot of white guy he's since passed but um studied a lot of asian cultures named james clavelle okay he wrote a book called shogun and the book it takes place in the 1600s and it's this dutch sailor that ends up um shipwrecked on the shores of japan and he has to adapt and learn the language and learn all of this different cultural differences and based on a true story or fictional i think it's based on like things that have happened but it's it's a fiction but it's a really really powerful book

it's long books about 1800 pages but um it talks about a lot of these things and like really like resilience and their culture and it's just it's really ingrained in the japanese they've had a the japanese culture has had a lot of tough times it's funny though because all the principles that she were just she was just saying about patience and resilience and all these things are things that you talk about and write about all the time well i think like one of the things to really dumb this down is like x the expectations of people right like if you expect a lot of people in media and tv are shitty right like that's it's it's it's one of those things where you can't really be disappointed more than yeah your standards are already set and so when there is somebody that's really pleasant or really good

you're like wow that's pleasantly surprising i think where people run into trouble is they have these high expectations of people. And when it's not met, then they're constantly disappointed. For me, the way I live is I don't think that people, I don't have low expectations of people. I just don't have any expectations. So when someone's really great, someone I work with, someone I'm in a relationship with, a friend, then I'm pleasantly surprised and happy. And I'm really, it's hard to let me down, right? Because I don't have these massive expectations of people. Like, you know, I don't, I don't put that

blanket policy out there. So when someone's great, I'm like, I have a lot of room to be really thankful. So you don't expect me to make you dinner tonight. As a matter of fact, I would be very pleasantly surprised. Okay. So shifting gears a little bit, why did you get into wellness? And if it is wellness, cause it sounds like you're almost niching down into the wellness space. If that makes sense, you're kind of squeezing it out. You're so good. Um, it's so hard to say, like, as you guys both know, as, as artists and entrepreneurs, like you constantly want to be evolving with the times. But at the same time, there's something inside of me

that's been saying like, rein it back because people have fucking lost their minds. Like I have written for every magazine under the sun. I used to be a columnist at Men's Health and Women's Health and also at Shape Men's Fitness and a food editor at large at Shape and Men's Fitness as well on the mastheads and hosted many of those shows and written now these six books. And what I found was what made me feel

real and good was when I wrote from my gut and my heart. And I told people things that I really was taught not to tell people at the beginning of my career, like publicists and people would say, like, don't tell people how you are going to cry when you hear a Keene song or, you know, don't don't tell people about your breakup. I didn't really want to ever share that story because it was so horrendous. But what helped was when I learned about human connection and relatability, I saw other women start to open up to me. And what made me feel a little bit better when I was in the middle of that storm of a breakup was when other people came to me and they said, this happened to me, too. And they told me their stories. And some of them were a thousand times worse than mine.

So I did that little thing where I was like, oh, shit, like, I am so sorry. Like, if you got through it, I can get through it. And now I'm saying to you i got through this you can sure as hell get through whatever you're going through right now i had to speak in front of 200 people like hours after he left me for the book launch and it was so um it was like grieving at the same time as as being on autopilot and learning of Japanese resilience and saying, if I have this in me, I have to learn how to cultivate a better form of wellness for the U.S. Because my entire career, my friend Matt Padgett, who actually lives out here in L.A., he kept

telling me, he's like, I know what your calling is, Candice. You are supposed to bridge the gap between the American decline in health and the Japanese like the Japanese way of living and totally you're doing that and you're doing and you know what you're doing it really well and that is a niche yeah really really really seriously i i mean i don't see anyone else doing what you're doing you're making it contemporary and cool it's so nice that you two of all people connected with this i was shocked that we are all from the same part of the country too and that michael's part japanese because it makes it makes things so much more beautiful like my dad's full you know european american polish american and

mixed cultures are what make the u.s so special and yeah I mean that so I've always been the golden girl of wellness according to Al and my amazing friends there in media but I never would have thought that I would have turned this corner until my life fell apart and that's what reigned me back in and that's kind of what kintsugi is too when you got vulnerable vulnerable, and you talk about this, you were talking about the Japanese art of golden repair. Yes. Can you explain that to the audience and kind of elaborate on that?

So that's a great question. When people ask immediately, they say, well, what is kintsugi? Because most of us know wabi-sabi by now or a couple of other Japanese tomes. But kintsugi wellness refers to being broken and learning how to put the pieces back together. And in Japanese culture, when you have an object of desire that is broken, you can put it back together with a lacquer or a glue and you can dust it with golden powder. And then it is foreseen as more of an art form. So you look at the piece when it's put back together and you say, this is more beautiful now that it's been put back together

and repaired with the gold. And I think people needed to see a metaphor to know that it's okay to be broken. It's okay to have a broken heart or even a career that's not working out or someone that's leaving you, a death in the family, a breakup. It could even be some people have been writing to me about how the book's been helping them. And I've had every story come my way now. Suicides, mothers being

diagnosed with diseases, people that had massive divorces or heartache or people that lost their job or feel that they have nothing anymore or people that are just not feeling like they fit into society because they're different. And that's a different kind of wellness. That's a self-care kind of wellness. That's why I think this is so cool. You know, when you hear the word wellness, you think smoothies, antioxidants, you know what I mean? This is a different kind of wellness. All the shit that I wrote about for the last 10 years. No, I mean, I love all that stuff too. I mean, I want the lemon water and salt, you know that, you know, but also this other stuff is really important to consider.

Yeah. So how do you do all of this? Like you're rewriting books, you're on television, you're hustling, you're out in LA, you're in san diego like how what's a day in the life i tell people i just slang rocks all day and that's how you do it um what does that mean i mean it means you're a drug dealer and you're slaying rocks i'm like is that like a word that i should be using is that like a new hustle word yes it is you need to get in the streets a little bit more alone get out of dry bar and get in the streets a little bit more, Lauren. Get out of dry bar and get in the streets. Yeah, you need to.

We're going to take your lunch money. I mean, it's all that. I think it's a matter of priorities, too. Like, I get teased by guys that I'm dating about how they're like, what are you doing for your birthday this year? I'm like, oh, I don't know. I have a party the next day that I'm hosting for my client, Belvedere. I'll be sitting at home, like, resting for the party. And they're like, what? Like, you're not going to go out because, and I'm like, yeah, that's a priority for me, you know? So my mother is full Japanese from southern, in southern Japan in Kyushu. My father's from Poland and he came here on a boat when he was 11. So both of those

countries have not only endured so much resilience through World War II, but they also are known for working hard. So what happened was children learn by what they watch their parents doing, not by what they say, but what they're doing. So I watched my dad as a former Navy veteran, now a nuclear auditor. And my mom's a japanese language teacher and sometimes i'm like mom like what did you do when you were raising jenny and i and she's like we are making kind of normal life you know i was always impressed with the birthday party here i couldn't believe it but we raised you the best we can, okay? Because I think that she did something crazy. But she really, Lauren, she was just raising me Japanese.

And that meant you do your homework on time. You go to school on time. You do everything well. There's a chapter. All the values in there. Yes, yes. There's a chapter in here called Ganbatte, which means always do your best. Kyotsukete means take good care.

Take care. All the anthems started to come out, and that's how I decided to live. Because I'd be like a piece of shit if I told people to do all these things and I wasn't actually living them. Like, I believe in the power of Ganbatte. I believe in Kaizen, which is continuously improving.

And I also, I really like the vibe that you guys carry too because what we're doing is helping the younger generation to also see that it's okay to do everything you've ever dreamed of but you're gonna have to fucking work for it okay so I am obsessive about people's morning routines when you're in New York and let's do this before when you were writing the book okay what was your morning routine and I want to even know like do you wake up and get water with lemon? Are you using a meditation app? Like, I want to know every little detail down to like what oil you're diffusing in your diffuser.

Okay. Good question. So if you're starting like before my morning routine is my night routine, which is kind of important because it ties in. Great answer. So, okay. The diffuser I'm using right now is like a sage one. And I like geranium. I don't know, for some reason, there's a couple of blends that they

also have that are really nice. And I'll always sleep with a glass of water next to my bed. And the diffuser, I have a lot of plants in my room because I love greenery. I have a cute, chunky cat named Cece, who's a black and white tuxedo. She's usually somewhere in there. And I have earplugs and an eye mask because I wake up next to the river overlooking the city in Brooklyn. So like I see the city from my apartment. But the eye mask and the earplugs really help with quality sleep. What kind of eye mask? We need like exact example. Exact is like something from Delta that

was put back together because they're always too tight. So I cut them and I add like like I add length to them if I can. OK, you have your eye mask, you have your glass of water, your water. Yeah. And I I probably stole the earplugs from Flywheel and whatever works efficiency i um i have a noise machine too because the city can be really loud and i like i'm addicted to white noise um and so i sleep really snugly like i love clean white beach sheets it's b-e-e-c-h and i get them at like bed bath and beyond um and i love lots of pillows around me. And so on the occasion, if a guy sleeps over, I'm usually like, stay on the other side of the bed.

Like, don't come close to me. Don't touch me. Unless I want to be touched because that's how most, you know, animals or pets like cats are too. I'm like exactly like that. My dad told me a long time ago to try to figure out women.

He said, figure out a cat and you'll figure out women. Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. And so I have a Casper mattress, which is really nice. And I like love the coziness of it. So in the mornings, thank God I sleep well in New York because it's home. But I use this like Cora Organics eye oil under my eyes, which is a rose like quartz ball roller, which I love. Sometimes I actually sleep next to crystals too. Um, and then I always sleep next

to a ton of books. So I'll wake up right now. I'm currently reading, um, fulfilled by Anna Youssef, which you would really like. It's an amazing book about spirituality and how to feel fulfilled without a religion or any of that it's like a self-help book cool so um in the mornings it's water and then i usually like cuddle cc or if there's a guy there lucky him and then or lucky you yeah yeah you're right it depends depends on the mood sometimes i'm like okay please leave now get out of here instead i was like you can stay as long as you want let me make you matcha pancakes okay then water is key i look out at the city and i try to like take it all in i usually wake

when the sun's coming up at six. So I like to look at sunrise. Really quick, what time do you go to bed? Bedtime is probably close to 10. Okay. Yeah, because I want to like, I really believe in everything being cumulative. Like that is a real thing. And my mom looks good and she's in her 60s.

And I'm like, I'm going to do whatever you did because it worked. So I think sleep is key. And then I'll make a matcha after that. So it's just hot water in my little I have a Muji kettle that is so cool. It boils water in about 60 seconds or 80 seconds or so. And then I make matcha just the way I showed you traditionally with the bamboo whisk, nothing too fancy. And then I'll give myself a beat and I'll figure out if I want to work out, write or meditate. So between those

three things I figure out depending on my day, what I have to do. If it's a shoot day, then it's wake up, get your matcha and sometimes hair and makeup will come over right away. And we'll start going through show notes or segment notes and studying. So if it's the night before something like say the Belvedere party or whatever is coming up, I have to study my notes before I go to bed. And remember we said earlier, children learn by what their parents do. So my mother's a schoolteacher and she still studies her curriculum every day before her coursework.

And I do the same thing now. So if I'm like going on The Today Show or Dr. Oz or E! News the next day, I'll always sleep by studying first so um it's either go into hair and makeup get ready for work go to a workout which is usually pure bar bar method or yoga i like core powers like the sculpt class um and if it's meditation it's deepak oprah's meditation that's together um and they have these amazing programs where oprah talks for like a good three four minutes and then she sends it over to deepak and then you do a 20 minute meditation is this an app it's on their website so you have to do a download okay i think they might have an app too. I'm not sure, but I use it. I use Deepak the most because his voice is very grounding.

And I really am a huge proponent of looking at experts from a deep, profound perspective. He's written 80 books or something like that. Same way. I just want to know every little thing. Real deal. Yeah. I want all the details. And there's so many people now that

are crowding our space that it is so tough to find the real deal ones. And here's how you can really find them is show enough. We're all friends and we all find each other. That's true. It kind of rises up. Yeah. Cream, cream girl. It's always going to rise, but not in your matcha. That's hot water. I need to, I need another tea, but we'll make one after this together. Yeah. What's a small habit that you do every day that you think has made such a big difference in your life? And it could be so small.

You know, the big one of the biggest ones I think I've done is if I'm going to like gossip or send somebody a picture or be like this person, I catch myself and I say, this is so unnecessary. It's going to waste like five to 10 minutes of your day, maybe less, maybe more. More if they catch up, more if they find out. Well, if the friend goes, oh, I know, blah, blah, blah. Like if they start texting me forth, there's no point in gossiping or talking poorly about others.

And I've really like learned to not do that anymore. And a lot of people do ask like how are you superwoman how do you do all the media and content and writing that you do it's probably because i don't waste any time and people will be like candace's real deal like this chick works i don't expect anybody to do anything for me i am completely aware that if i want something done the right way, I will have to do it myself. I love that. That's my mindset too. I always say I wake up with like a thermometer of energy and that's all I have all day. And if I'm allocating any of that thermometer

to anything that's not propelling my mission forward, it's a waste of fucking time. Yeah. Hell yeah, it is. and if more people could be aware of how precious your time is in this one life that you have then maybe you would start thinking about doing more of the things that feel really good that you really want to do that make a difference and help others versus being self-serving and sort of just like a shallow like surfacy person like there's a lot of depth to life that we have yet to research or go into because we're so fucking self-consumed with like who's posting what on insta tomorrow or like who liked your story or what guy you know i do that too i do it all the time like i stopped um scrolling through my feed i just stopped i don't go on that part

i don't even scroll through if i want to find someone and like comment on their photo, I'll go search. I think scrolling, I was noticing that I was doing this. I'm done with it. Is that your life hack right now? I've done it for two months. I haven't looked at the feed. Not once. Don't even scroll through. I just think it's counterproductive. I think it's important to know what's going on, but I think if it becomes unhealthy, like if the first thing you're doing when you wake up in the morning is checking Instagram, or the first thing you do before you go to bed is checking Instagram, like that's probably not a good practice, right? It's one thing to know and be aware of what's going on, especially if you're in that industry, but it's another thing to be compulsive and

obsessive with something that's probably not so productive. You know what else I did for time management? This is another hack. I'm sure you have one too i turned off my text message notifications so i allocate time probably like 15 minutes a day to go on my text messages and respond to all of them at once and if michael's car's on fire he's gonna have to call someone else my notifications are off hold on hold on let's hold on do you think that if my car was on fire like you'd be the phone call like you're like oh shit i don't do it i better get lauren on the line i trained him well so what's what's next eight books is it eight six six twelve twelve yeah just five twenty five a lot a lifetime i'm gonna have to beat deepak chapra and somebody told me it was like sahara rose is a friend she i think she told me the other day he wrote like 80 books I'm like what the fuck yeah that's like two books a year

yeah my god six is a lot though and this book is so beautiful you guys I mean honestly everything about it is just amazing I can't wait to put it on my coffee table um so what's next all right so there are a couple good things in the works but I think it's all about recreating. I'd like to write more of a perfectly imperfect, more of a memoir so that women can really relate to the vulnerability of what it's been like leaving behind mainstream and what people want me to do and say and be and act and who to roll with and what to wear. I'm like, I'm not doing any of it anymore. You guys made me do that in my 20s. So it's about writing more about how to be a little smarter and tactful and getting more out of what you want in this one life.

I'm hoping to write that book all over the world. So the book Kintsugi Wellness has been picked up in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Greece, Poland, the Netherlands, Portugal, and Brazil. And so I'm planning on going to all those countries as well. I'm saying that now, so I should really do it, start buying my tickets. And I'd like to go on a tour and meet all those women, particularly the women in Saudi Arabia, because I want them to know that like they have a voice and they have freedom in a way um and I I think being a chick that's like been through it all and been mixed or I'm I'm mixed and I've also chosen to be single for a little while after that breakup I think that the main thing is to now is to go and tell women like it's cool you're good on your own

and when the right person is meant to come into your life, they will come. And you are so good on your own. So there's probably a lot of speaking. And there's probably a lot of events. Lots of travel. New books. And new forms of media. So, like, a lot of people are suggesting to go back and start a new video series.

Probably a travel wellness one. So there's a lot of people are suggesting to go back and start a new video series, probably a travel wellness one. So there's a lot of development and then products, the matcha beauty powder and maybe these cookies that I made you. I cannot wait to try these. OK, so I thought they looked like marijuana. So tell me about these cookies. Hell yeah, girl. You know, I put a little in there. I was like, every time i come

to cali so i'm like mom i'm gonna call the the dealer now because it's legal and she she's like no you are not going to call him and have him come to my house okay and i'm like i'm pretty sure it's legal now it's okay no george tennis is trying to get the marijuana dealer to hear i am not going to allow it so i haven't even been able to try anything legally since it's been legalized but these matcha banana chocolate chip cookies are so amazing like you'll actually think you are stoned when you're eating them they're vegan gluten-free and dairy-free but they're made with mashed banana oh my god coconut oil gluten-free flour oats dark chocolate chips a little bit of salt baking powder and you fold them all in together with a little bit of sugar and matcha powder and they are i want you guys to try them like too i'm gonna try them after

this they are i'm gonna dive right in he's gonna dive right it's just like your grandma waking you up at 6 a.m. for a berry pancake. Japanese women. Bring us all in a circle. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm trying to break that a little, too, and say you can utilize a lot of that energy towards helping other people, too. You know, you don't have to do it. I think you've done a great job. Where can everyone find you? Pimp yourself out.

Thanks, you guys. So I'm on Instagram under Candice Kumai. C-A-N-D-I-C-E, K-U-M as in Mary, A-I. You can write to me in comments on, I love hearing about where people want me to travel to next and what to write about next. I love like learning about what you guys want to see more of and what you want to hear about. And I'm open to sharing. I'm at CandiceKumai.com, C-A-N-Di-c-e k-u-m-a-i.com and also um same on twitter and

facebook and pinterest and your book is on amazon yes girl and it's so juicy and i hope people buy 20 copies each wouldn't that be great i don't ask for much not at at all. It's $80 a piece. You know, 20 people. It's a great investment. Go on Amazon. Look up Kintsugi Wellness. K-I-N-T-S-U-G-I Wellness by Candice Kumai. It's got golden cracks on the cover. Really pretty.

Because that's who we are, right? It is a reflection of your life. And yeah, Kintsugi Wellness drops hot. It's already out. It's been out for two weeks and we're really trying to share this so that other people can feel the spiritual mind body connection through the japanese lens and i i really think the book has helped so many people already and i hope it can help even more of you thank you for coming coming on. Thank you for doing this, Lauren. And thanks for the matcha.

Oh, yeah. It's time to do some matcha. Guys, just a few things before you take off. The giveaway winner of the Aubrey Marcus 5 Beauty Product Giveaway was Yasmin Barono. So email me. You have my address. We'll talk and I will send you those 5 Beauty Products. If you want to win beauty products from this episode, all you have to do

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