The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #137: Dr. Daniel Barrett - Lauryn’s Boob Job, Boob Jobs, Sizing, Mistakes To Avoid, Common Complications, Expat Boob Jobs, Implants, Mommy Makeovers, & Scarring

Episode Date: September 18, 2018

On this episode we sit down with renowned booby expert and board certified plastic surgeon, Dr. Daniel Barrett. This episode is hyper focused around breast augmentation procedures and specifically the... one Lauryn recently received from Dr. Barrett. This episode covers Lauryn’s Boob Job, Boob Jobs, Sizing, What to look for in surgeons, Mistakes in boob jobs, Common Complications, Expat boob jobs, Implants, Mommy Makeovers & Scarring. To connect with Dr. Daniel Barrett click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) WOO FOR PLAY is the all natural and organic coconut love oil that is changing the way we have sex. With only 4 all natural ingredients WOO is the perfect personal lubricant to spice up your sex life.  All Him & Her Listeners will receive 20% off your entire order plus free shipping when when visiting www.wooforplay.com & using promo code HIMANDHER at checkout. This episode was brought to you by Grove Collaborative.   Grove Collaborative offers healthy alternatives to household supplies and we use it for all of our cleaning supplies. To try grove collaborative go to www.grove.co/skinny Listeners will receive 30 dollars in free supplies a special gift and a 60 day VIP membership.    This episode is brought to you by Skillshare. Skillshare is an online learning space offering more than 20,000 courses. Join the millions of students already learning on Skillshare today with a special offer just for our listeners: Get two months of Skillshare for just 99 cents. That’s right, Skillshare is offering The Skinny Confidential listeners two months of unlimited access to over 20,000 classes for just 99 cents. To sign up, go to www.skillshare.com/skinny. 

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Starting point is 00:02:05 Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Aha! Yeah, that's a really good question. I think about five years ago, it was really taboo to do anything like on social media as patient privacy and all those concerns. But what I found is that patients absolutely love it, right? They love it. They want to show that they're like, Hey, mom, dad,
Starting point is 00:02:29 and my friends and family, I'm getting my surgery, tune in to Dr. Barrett. And we're, you can watch me get my surgery. They love it. I think times have changed. And fortunately, that mentality has changed rather recently within the past two years. What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. If you're new to the show, thanks for joining. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Dr. Daniel Barrett. And on this episode, we're going to get real, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:57 We discuss my recent boob job, boob jobs in general, sizing, what to look for in surgeons, common mistakes and complications surrounding boob jobs, explants, implants, and mommy makeovers. For those of you who are new to the show, I am Lauren Everts, and I am the creator of The Skinny Confidential, which is a blog, book, brand, and podcast. And I'm Michael Bostic. I'm a serial entrepreneur and brand builder, most recently the CEO of Dear Media, which is a new kind of podcast network marrying the digital world to the audio space. All right, let's talk about one of my favorite subjects in the world, two of my favorite things, my wife's boobs. I call them flotsam and jetsam. I call them fun and more fun. Okay, so guys, I wanted to tell you before we get into this
Starting point is 00:03:43 interview the reason I wanted to have Dr. Barrett on the show. I have gotten so many DMs and emails and questions about a boob job that I feel there's so many different doctors all over the United States. There's Groupon offers, there's things that you can get discounts on online that I wanted to bring someone on and show the good, the bad, and the ugly of a boob job. What to look for, things to avoid, things to ask, sort of how to go to a doctor with your list and get the right answers. I would hate to have you guys see anyone get a boob job and then go try to emulate that with a doctor that maybe doesn't have the right credentials. So I thought bringing Dr. Barrett on would just be like a very streamlined way of getting you everything you need to know
Starting point is 00:04:31 about boobs in one hour. If you would have asked me four years ago, if I would be doing a talk show or a show about boob jobs, I don't think I would have known what to say. I still don't really know what to say. Maybe we'll have a ball expert on soon. Maybe you'll have to get your balls done and we'll have that expert on. You never know. Life throws you funny twists. I know. I've been looking for a reduction for a while. It's starting to become cumbersome. I also want to say this, guys. I am not trying to be a role model for boob jobs. I am simply just sharing my journey and my story. My right one bottomed out after 10 years of having a boob job. And so I feel like everyone needs to drink when I say the word boob job.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Everyone will be drunk. But I wanted to... We didn't even get past the intro part of this episode. I wanted to just share my journey, share my story, share what I'm going through in my recovery. And again, I'm not a role model for boob jobs. I'm just showing you my life and what I'm doing, living my life on my own terms, beating to the tune of my own drum while sharing it with you.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. I always think it's important for content creators to share their journey and their experiences and show what is working in their life and what's not working. I like when people come on and I like how you haven't positioned yourself as some type of expert, but just sharing your experience. A lot of people come in and they have very strong opinions, but I think all we can do as content creators and influencers and podcasters is share our personal experience in an authentic way and let people take and not take what they want. So the real question is, is when you get a ball job, are you going to share it with the audience? We're going to document the whole thing. I can't wait. We'll get you tennis balls in there. All right. Before we get into
Starting point is 00:06:10 the interview with Dr. Barrett, I want to talk to you about my latest and greatest Grove collaborative themed order. Okay. It's like clockwork with me. I order my healthy cleaning supplies straight online so I can skip the grocery store. I mean, there is nothing worse than having to stand in line at the store and then lug all the cleaning supplies into your house or make your husband do it. I mean, there's, there's really nothing like worse ever, especially because I'm that person that has to carry everything in at once. And then I'm like that a-hole that ends up dropping something and it spills everywhere and I'm on my hands and knees cleaning it up and it's just not efficient. Anyway, this month's themed order was interesting. I decided to look through community favorites on grove.co. Okay, so that's right. You can like
Starting point is 00:06:58 search through what the community is loving. I'm personally a big fan of honest feedback and I feel like this is ideal when you're shopping to see exactly what real people are using and hear their opinion. So there's like three standout stars of this month that were definitely very on brand that I think you guys will love. I just tried the blood orange hand sanitizer. Okay. I'm obsessed, obsessed with blood orange. It's one of my favorite scents I wear it as a perfume and the hand sanitizer does not disappoint we keep this in our laundry room and in our kitchen so it's everywhere Michael little hint hint to use a little more hand
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Starting point is 00:08:09 who sign up will get an amazing $30 gift set, a free 60-day VIP membership, and a bonus gift just for you when you sign up and place an order of $20 or more. Check out Grove and our special offer at grove.co slash skinny. That's grove.co not.com slash skinny and make sure you get the blood orange hand sanitizer. Dr. Daniel Barrett is a board certified plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills, California. He specializes in aesthetic and reconstructive surgery and is totally known as the boobie doctor. His passion is providing natural results with minimal downtime, utilizing holistic approaches and minimal recovery. He's developed detailed scar management and closure techniques to reduce the appearance of scars for his patients. I am obsessed with Dr. Barrett. He did my boobs. He's a badass.
Starting point is 00:08:54 He's also a dad and a husband. So with that, let's welcome Dr. Barrett to the podcast. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. We have two breast implants on the table. We do. We have textured. We have smooth. These are just a sampling of what we have in the office to show patients. One is 600 and one is? This one is a 325. This was actually opened by accident and surgery the other day so we brought it in
Starting point is 00:09:26 because it is like a brand new example of a mentor moderate profile smooth round implant and this is for you to kind of play with more boobs for me to play with I thought one of the wildest things when we went into your office was when you brought out Lauren's old boobs and gave them to me because I was thinking
Starting point is 00:09:41 I was like holy shit I was like wait I've had these things for so long. It's like now I got some new ones. Now no one's touched these. A lot of people had touched the other ones. You don't say that. I mean, listen, I'm not hoping, I don't want anyone else touching them, but I'm not, it wasn't like something I was hung up on, but it is nice. New, fresh ones, like getting a brand new car.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah. Before I hop into this, I need to know, Michael, what would you rate Dr. Barrett's work since you've seen it firsthand and felt it and licked it? Well, should I just call you every day and thank you every morning or what? I mean, you know, it's the best compliment I've ever had was when I get people's boyfriends or their husbands, they, they have no idea that their wives had had breast augmentation or they're super, super happy because it's extremely natural. And so that really, that makes me feel good. That makes me know that, hey, this is passing the true test of really people that get to know, you know, their,
Starting point is 00:10:32 their loved ones so close and then they can't even tell the difference or they're really, really happy, you know? So it's, it's great. It's great. I can tell the difference too, between my old ones and my new ones, like even the shape and the artistic way of them, if that makes sense. Right now you're different. You You had them before, so we kind of, you know, the cat's out of the bag. So we were, our job, my job was really difficult because we had to kind of take where you are now, and it was kind of like a little investigation, right? Like we didn't really know, I mean, we knew, we kind of knew what your size was, but then I took out your implants. We measured what they were. They're actually different than what we thought they were. And then we have to kind
Starting point is 00:11:04 of make some game time decisions during the operation to adjust for that. So that's why we use sizers during the operation. That's why we do all those measurements and stuff like that to really kind of customize your end result to give you the best result possible. How did you get here? What's your background? Start from the beginning. Why plastic surgery? You know what? If I had looked back like 20 years ago and be like, I'm going to be a board certified plastic surgeon here in Beverly Hills, I'd be like, this is crazy. I remember growing up in Warrington, Virginia, which is a really small town in Virginia. We had a couple of horses watching. We finally got cable TV because we're like that far out.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And I remember watching like Dr. 90210. You guys, do you ever remember that show with Dr. Robert Ray and so forth? A really cool show. recommend it but i was like wow that's crazy this world out there like they have palm trees and they're doing all this crazy stuff with plastic surgery this guy with cut off tea scrubs you know we're doing these surgeries um i always thought that was just kind of wild and glamorous and i never thought i'd end up out here but it was kind of a gradual position you know being a doctor takes a very long um it's a long road of multiple decisions that you have to make. And it was, it all kind of started when I was younger. My dad got lung cancer. He died of lung cancer. We were exposed to healthcare. Nobody else in my family was
Starting point is 00:12:12 healthcare. So I was like, I want to be a doctor. I want to, I want to cure cancer. I want to do all this other stuff. And fast forward, once you get into medical school, you realize kind of what you're good at, what you like to do. I knew I liked to work with my hands. I knew I liked to, um, to help people. I realized I could not deal with cancer on a regular basis. So my hat's off to people. Why is that just the emotional toll or? Yeah. I mean, your, your, your patients, they're going through a lot, the emotional toll, they, you know, a lot of them die, you know, they don't make it and you can do great work, but I, I, I don't think I was strong enough. I couldn't do it. So I was like, I want want to do i want to do surgery where i can help people and um i don't want it to be that that heavy you
Starting point is 00:12:50 know and i want i want to really improve people's lives because in your experience like you're maybe having the opposite that way you work you work with people on people and they come and they're happy right like the end of it like at the end of that process like thank you right where obviously in the other in the in the cancer world they could have have very, very sad endings. Exactly. Did blood ever make you nervous, or has it always been something where it's just natural, it doesn't bother you at all? You know, I remember watching the TLC channel was out, and it was like surgeries. And I remember watching a knee surgery. I was like, that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And they were opening up a knee and drilling into a knee. I was like, no problem. The rest of my family was just like puking in the back, and I was like, this is great. So I knew right away that I like surgery. So how do you become the boobie expert? Because you are the boobie expert of Beverly Hills. Right. So what, what makes plastic surgery different? What makes cosmetic surgery? What makes being a breast and body expert different is, is you really have to have a really good understanding of anatomy, of surgery, of the science. And then you have to have a really good understanding of anatomy, of surgery, of the science,
Starting point is 00:13:45 and then you have to have that artistic edge on top of that, what looks good, right? We're not trying to cut out cancer or take out an appendix or do a liver transplant. Those are all very functional things. You're trying to make something that looks normal look better. It's kind of like you have to have taste. Totally. You've got to have taste. You've got to know what things I study.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I go to the Getty Museum at least once every couple months just to study a sculpture. I go, anytime I get a chance, I go and I look and I study sculpture. Paintings are great, but really 3D is really the way you have to do it because the breast is a three-dimensional structure. Yeah, in case you hear that, that's my daughter in the background. That's not Dr. Barrett. That's not Dr. Barrett. That is, and that's not a breast implant. That is, that is a baby. There's a baby by Barrett right there. So it's on the table, baby's in the room. Yes. So yeah, you know, it's, it's, it takes a lot of study because you have to know what is, what looks good. You have to have a lot of study because you have to know what looks good.
Starting point is 00:14:46 You have to have a lot of experience. I did a lot of breast reconstruction. So back to my story, I did a lot of cancer reconstruction. So women that had breast cancer, I would do breast reconstruction surgery for them. And those are actually probably the hardest operations because you're completely removing a breast with like mastectomy surgery. The general surgeon will do that. And then you have to like, okay, and I'm starting with scratch. Now I've got to start and build a new breast from scratch. So when you really understand how to build a breast up from nothing, you become a better cosmetic surgeon because, you know, you already had breasts, right? And we were just trying to
Starting point is 00:15:20 make them look even better. So that kind of gave me that extra ability to know what I can do with breasts, how it can release muscle, how it can open the pocket. And how is that going to hold up over six months? How's that going to hold up over six years? You know what I mean? You don't want to just give a good result for three months and have it all fall apart. What advice can you give to someone that is listening right now? That's thinking about getting them there on the fence. I tell people people this if you're sitting there staring at yourself in the mirror for more than six months and you're not happy with something do something about it right um plastic surgery with a board certified plastic surgeon is extremely safe and consult with them hey can you do something about this because if it's you know if it if it's something especially like small breasts or breast asymmetry or tuberous breasts, I don't even know if you know
Starting point is 00:16:08 some of these things that we do, to correct those things can make a huge difference in a woman's confidence and how they feel about their bodies and how they fit in clothes. And it's really powerful and it makes us feel really good. That's why myself, my wife, our whole office, we just get really excited when we have results like you and we help patients kind of feel really better about their bodies. And then they move on and they forget about us because they're just out there enjoying their life. I won't forget about you. Michael will not forget about you. I feel like you might be in his thoughts too much. I'll always remember you.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Who would be, like, what would you consider a good candidate? And on the flip side, who's a bad candidate if there is such a thing? And there's going to be a lot of education more for me on this podcast probably than for Lauren because you guys are both, you know, Lauren has them and you're an expert. I'm just here making my way in the dark. You know, I always ask, how long have you been thinking about this? What's going on? What do you, you know, what's your concern? And if they tell me that my boyfriend wants me to have bigger boobs, I'm like, no, have you been thinking about this? What's going on? What's your concern? And if they tell me that my boyfriend wants me to have bigger boobs, I'm like, no, I'm not doing your surgery.
Starting point is 00:17:10 This can't be – I mean, this has to come from within. It's got to come from the woman. Like this is something I want for my body. If they tell me that somebody else wants them to do it, I'm like, look, I'm not your guy because you're not going to be – you're going to get your boobs and then you guys might break up and then you're not going to be happy. So that's a bad candidate. Um, I get a lot of people that, um, really need breast lifts and they just want to do an augmentation and that's just part of the educational process. Um, which mommy makeover, mommy makeover. Yeah. So if you have kids, you do
Starting point is 00:17:38 a lot of breast feeding and your breasts have gotten saggy. Chances are you need a little bit of a lift versus just like a straight augmentation. Um know, people that smoke, people that are not healthy, those are, those are not really, those are difficult candidates because we run into wound healing problems with smoking. Smoking, as you know, stops new blood supply to areas. And if you make a fresh incision on something, you're not going to get regrowth of what's called angiogenesis. You're not going to get that. And so you won't get any wound healing. So I make sure all my patients are not smokers. Oh, that's an interesting – I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I mean, I've met a lot of girls that are smokers that have – You haven't met anyone. But I'm saying, so I wonder. Who have you met? I wonder. Is there any kind of physical complications or anybody that just does not have a body that could support breast augmentations? Before Dr. Barrett dives into candidates, I want to talk to you guys and tell you guys about Skillshare. So let's talk about skills.
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Starting point is 00:20:35 the things I really try to do, I try to customize all of my operation. Let's, let's just say a straightforward breast augmentation. My goal for every single person, um, and breast revisions are a whole other category. They're like, that's like the next level up. Right. But a breast augmentation. My goal for every single person, and breast revisions are a whole other category. They're like, that's like the next level up, right? But a breast augmentation, I try to customize for each individual person. My goal is to not have it look like you had surgery. So you can go out to the beach, you can be completely naked and no one's going to be able to tell. I do that through a lot of the techniques that I've learned over the years, placing up, using your own anatomy, your pectoralis muscle to blunt that upper part of the breast so that instead of seeing that roundness on top of the chest, you're actually getting a nice teardrop shape. So I do that with
Starting point is 00:21:15 placement. I do that with my incision closer. I close breasts in five layers. It's super OCD. It's very meticulous, but it's like, if this was your body, I always but it's like if this was your body I always ask myself this if this was your body how would you want your incisions closed knowing what I know five layers get it get in there spend the time and get it done explain the five layers like really in depth because I've heard you say that a lot and I want to hear exactly what you mean by that so the breast has five distinct layers of kind of zones of adherence. So the breast tissue, you have the breast tissue, you have the fascia layer right above the breast, you have the deep dermis, you have the middle dermis, and then you have the epidermis.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So there's three levels of the skin, and there's two levels at the breast. When you close all those layers together very precisely, imagine like cutting a piece of lasagna in half, you know, five-layer lasagna. You can see the little pieces of the pasta in between with the sauce and the cheese. Great visual. I know. No, I'm serious. That's a great visual. I know it's food, but we're talking about breast, but I couldn't think of a better way to, to kind of describe it. So when you bring all those precise layers back together, you trick your body into thinking that, Hey, nothing much has really happened, right? If you leave a big gap and you just close the skin, it's going to produce a
Starting point is 00:22:29 bunch of scar tissue there, right? To try to close that gap. It's like, I need to heal. This is crazy. What happened? That carries over into the skin and creates more inflammation for your skin. So your incision gets more thick and hypertrophic. You also do something else that I found really interesting. And some people on Instagram story were messaging me about this. So I saw you every single week after the surgery for like four weeks. Now, when I first got surgery the first time with a different doctor 12 years ago, I saw him once and that was it. Why do you see the patient once every week for, I think, three to four weeks? Yeah. So it depends on your healing.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And honestly, for lifts and tummy tucks, I see patients six times, you know, so you actually healed really well. I just care about my patients healing. You know, it doesn't just end when you find something that's really passionate about their work. They care about the after result, right? It's not like, okay, I got your money and we did your surgery and bye. I mean, that's just, I don't feel good at the end of the day. I want to really make sure that my patients are healing appropriately, their questions are answered. And there's things that I noticed that a lot of other people don't notice in terms of healing. And we ran into some situations like that too, where I helped identify these things and we can kind of make adjustments as you're healing. And I think that's part of the surgical process. Your body takes some time to heal and you need to recognize potential problems before they actually
Starting point is 00:23:49 turn into bigger problems. That is so smart because guys, I've had surgery on my jaw. I've had my appendix out. I've had my boobs done once before. And I feel like sometimes with doctors, they perform the surgery, they do their art, and then they send you on your way and you're just sort of supposed to fend for yourself. With you, you had me wear a anti-nausea patch the night before so I didn't get nauseous. And then I don't know if I'm saying this right, but I had absolutely no pain because you did something where you numbed me. You also gave me a stool softener because you anticipated that I would have constipation because of the pain pills. So everything was like very planned out and thought out. So it was so seamless.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Can you sort of talk about that? Right. You know, I kind of train my staff and me myself. I'm always like, what would I want if I was going to go through surgery? You know, I don't want nausea when I wake up. So I want to come up with the best anti-nausea medication that i can think of in fact we use two for you there's a patch and there's also another medication called zofra i think i put the patch on wrong we did so you showed up it was backwards that's right we turned it around just in time yeah the one thing you had to do i literally had one listen all right um you know what that's probably our fault too because you know you're not the only one so i think we need to be clear see this is how i know you're a nice guy because it's my fault it's 100 my fault but we could keep going yeah so um you know i don't want
Starting point is 00:25:14 nausea i don't want pain when i wake up right we got these injectable medications called uh you know uh lidocaine like when you go to the dentist or even a longer acting one called marcaine it lasts for six hours why do more doctors not do it? Because it just takes time. And it's just like, is your result going to be the same? Yes. But when you wake up, you're going to be pain-free if I pre-inject the area with pain medication. So it's not only about your results, it's also about the whole experience too. So that's why I use Fully Created Surgery Center, board-certified anesthesiologist. I train my staff very carefully on things that you're going to be thinking about the day of surgery to try to anticipate any anxiety that you might be having, um, medications for afterwards.
Starting point is 00:25:54 The constipation is always a big one. Even if you don't take the pain medication, the medication you get from anesthesia will cause constipation just slows you down, slows down your gut. And, um, that's super uncomfortable and that doesn't hit you until two or three days later i didn't have that at all guys just for the record everything was good let me ask you this yeah when it comes to sizing i found one thing that was interesting is lauren and you met before and you kind of talked roughly about sizing yeah but then when you went in it was different than what you anticipated how do you decide or how do you consult someone that's you consult someone when it comes to sizing? How big, how small?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah, so the first thing people think about is bra size. They're like, I'm a 34C, and I want to be like 34D, or I'm a 34B, I want to be a 34D. So the problem with that is like, is that Victoria's Secret, or is it JCPenney? What is a universal bra size and where is it? Because there isn't. It doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:26:51 It gives us a rough idea. I like to use pictures because a picture is worth a thousand words. So I tell people, show me some pictures of size that you like, naked breast photos from the front because you'd be amazed at how many bikinis and things like that people can put on that really kind of change the appearance. I don't, Lauren, I mean, you tell us, but there's all kinds of things out there that you can do. So I just say find naked breast photos from the front, something that really speaks to you in terms of size, and then we'll go from there. The other thing I do is I do measurements. There's about six different measurements I do during a consultation. The most important one is called the base width.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Every implant has a round side and has a flat side. This flat side has to correspond to how much width you have on your chest. Is that resting on the sternum? Exactly, yeah. So the sternum out to the lateral part of your pec, believe it or not. And that's kind of what I'm measuring during the consultation or the most important measurement that I'm, that I'm doing that has to correspond to how much width on the implant. Now, if your implants too wide and goes beyond that, it sticks out on the side and it looks weird. It looks on fake. If it's too small, it moves around. So,
Starting point is 00:27:56 um, you know, those are, those are some things I do to, to kind of, uh, keep you within the framework of natural for your body. And then ultimately we use those photos that they pick to kind of go bounce in between an extra two 25 cc's up or 25 cc's down. That's how particular I get because those little 25 cc increments in the implants, they make a difference. And so I really try to hone it in on all my patients based off of what they want. And we had that, we did the measurements, we had lots of discussion. We had photos that like your desired size. And ultimately when, and then the extra component for you was taking out your old implants and measuring them. I don't know if you remember, we talked about that, but your implants had kind of shrunk. You said they
Starting point is 00:28:37 were 350, but they're actually 270 and 300. They were? Yeah. So I measured the volume. You can do a volumetric analysis. You're probably, no. So wait, what, what did I think they were yeah so i measured the volume you can do a volumetric analysis you're probably no so wait what what did i think they were i thought they were 300 right or no either you thought they were 300 or 350 okay but they turned out to be 300 and 270 so one was actually bigger than the other and so you know i had to take that in consideration we put old lefty yeah you know what i like about my new boobs don't mean brag, but here's what I love about them. My other boobs were sort of like you just said out a little bit. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Kind of like, I don't know how to even describe it. They hung outward. These ones, you gave me a cleavage effect, but not a fake look. So they're more in. I'm not using the right words, but can you describe, if you were to describe my boobs to the audience, how would you describe them? We're really getting into it. So, okay, we're getting into implant mechanics also because you had some pretty old McGann saline implants.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Those are very, they're like baseballs. So they're very narrow. They're very projected. They don't do anything for cleavage, and they tend to have a water hammer effect on your breast over time, they drop and that happened for one of your breasts, one of them bottomed out. I mean, they are also old so it was about time anyway and that can happen. So when we get into the newer implants, they make them a little more wide so they disperse a lot of that weight so they end up being more
Starting point is 00:30:05 stable in the breast pocket. The other thing is when they're a little bit more wide at the base, they give you more of that cleavage that you're experiencing right now. We also did a slightly bigger implant to match your base width which was 13 centimeters. You had an implant that was probably meant for a 12 centimeter or 11.5 centimeter frame. So probably wasn't the best size for you. Maybe at the time, maybe things changed.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I don't know. It was 14 years ago, 13 years ago. I think it was like 10 or 11 years. It's interesting to me about all this is there's people ask me like, Oh, what's Lauren doing? And she,
Starting point is 00:30:35 I said, Oh, she's getting them redone. And there's a lot of people that I've talked to. It's a lot of women. They're like, Oh, I didn't know you had to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I don't think a lot of women realize that if you have these for that, or you have breastfed that long, you might need to redo them. Speak on that. I mean, I feel like that's like, that's been the biggest question on my social media is, oh my God, I didn't know I had to get them redone. Yes. Um, I have lots of stories about redoing implants. I will say, um, saline, you have a little more forgiveness, right? Because if a saline ruptures, you know, right away, it's just a bag of saline, but you'd have about two weeks to kind of do something about it before it starts to contract and before it becomes much more difficult to kind of reinflate it. Right. So if you, if your saline ruptures, you've got to go
Starting point is 00:31:18 rush and find a surgeon who's willing to do your operation within two weeks. What about the other one? Is that the one you can replace? yeah. So you would replace the other side? No, but I'm saying- You mean silicone. What's the one that if it ruptures, you're in trouble? Well, the older silicone, you were in trouble because you wouldn't know about it. It would rupture and it would leak into your body. We have what's called gummy bear implants now or cohesive gel implants that I exclusively use so that if it were to rupture, it doesn't really
Starting point is 00:31:44 travel very far. It's still not great for you, so you want to were to rupture, it doesn't really travel very far. It's still not great for you, so you want to have it replaced. But you don't really know if a silicone implant ruptures. That's why you really don't want to wait past 10 years to have it exchanged. How long do they really last? I mean, I had one patient. She had 30-year-old silicone implants. She was a Mormon.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I don't know if that has anything to do with it. But they came out, and they were pristine. Like, literally, like, these things were, like, brand new. I don't know what she has anything to do with it, but they were, came out and they were pristine. Like literally like these things were like brand new. I don't know what she did or didn't do, but her implants came out perfect. I still, I, she wanted them back. So I gave them back to her, but, um, I was sad because I was like, these are like antiques. I wanted to keep them and, um, anyway, and show other patients. But anyway, so yeah, so you don't want to be in that situation. You don't want to wait past 10 years because if you have to rush and find a surgeon, you're not going to get the best options because my schedule, I'm not typically available within
Starting point is 00:32:34 two weeks, you know? And so that's kind of your timeframe. And so you end up going with a surgeon who's not busy, maybe he's not as good, you know? So those are things you want to kind of plan ahead to do. And that's one of the reasons that I decided to go with you is because I felt like, what if I'm traveling and I have to rush back here? Just for the record, if you guys didn't know, my right one bottomed out. Is that right? Right. It was bottoming out or it bottomed out?
Starting point is 00:32:55 It bottomed out, yeah. So basically your nipple was pointing to the sky. Imagine the breast mound just went way down on your rib cage too much. It sounds graphic. It wasn't like incredibly graphic if you looked at it, but after you pointed it out, I could definitely tell. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I mean, and these are things that a really good breast surgeon is going to be able to point out. And it probably contributed to things you did notice that maybe your cleavage was uneven when you were wearing tank tops or clothes, that one side was maybe more full than the other. But you don't really realize that it's because the implant dropped down. And to fix that, we had to do a couple of things. We did some cautery, some pocket tightening.
Starting point is 00:33:31 We actually did a suture repair to kind of replace that area that had kind of expanded down. And like I said, that happens with the type of implant that you had. I always just thought you had one shorter leg. Oh, God. Come on, Michael. What about mommy makeovers? Let's talk about mommy makeovers.
Starting point is 00:33:45 There's a lot of moms that are listening. Is there a right way to do it, a wrong way to do it? What would you recommend? Is everyone different? Yes. I recommend a mommy makeover after you're done having children. Because if you plan to have another kid tightening up your tummy, tightening up the breasts, you have run the risk of it kind of relaxing out again. Is it a contraindication to having kids? No, you still can, but just realize that you're probably going to stretch things out that you just spent all this money and time and energy to fix. I love mommy makeovers because I think they're a great way to get women's bodies back after they make sacrifices for their children. And husband.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And husband. yeah, exactly. So, I mean, you sacrifice, literally, you say like you're, you know, if you breastfeed, you are really there 100% for your kids and it takes a toll on your body. And so it's really gratifying to me to help women get their bodies back because it's like they come out of my office,
Starting point is 00:34:39 literally week six, and they're like, show me pictures of their new bikinis that they're wearing back at the beach. And, you know, it's, they really feel this renewed confidence about their body. And then if you get situations where women are, uh, some women go through divorces or they go through breakups and things like that, I get a lot of people that, that come from that point and they just, they really need to kickstart and they really need to restart. And that is just a, it's a phenomenal way to kind of get back out there. When I'm on my second husband, I'll call you.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yes. Okay. Can they breastfeed? Can I breastfeed? Can anyone with implants breastfeed? Yeah. So that's a, that's a really good question. If you understand where an implant goes, most of the time now, if you're a good surgeon, you're placing the implant partially underneath the muscle. okay? The muscle is the pectoralis muscle when you do push-ups, okay? So imagine that flat, broad muscle that goes right behind kind of the nipple and chest area. That muscle, you're elevating to put the implant partially underneath. The glandular tissue goes above that muscle, okay? The glandular tissue is what provides breast milk, okay? So we're not actually in too much contact with the glandular tissue is what provides breast milk. So we're not actually in too much contact with the glandular tissue with the implant.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So mechanically, they're pretty separate. They're not really interfering with each other. Where we theorize that there might be disruption of breastfeeding is that there's a tiny little disruption when you make that little tunnel to get to that little pre-pectoral pocket. And they did studies. Well, how difficult is it? Well, for primary augmentation, that's your first time breast aug, your reported difficulty is 7% reported difficulty breastfeeding. Now, there's women out there that never had breast augmentation that can't breastfeed. So you got to understand statistics. So some people just can't breastfeed. It doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:36:20 whether you have implants or not. Of the people that have implants, 7% report a statistically different, a difference, a difficulty breastfeeding. Does that make sense? Yeah. So it's pretty small. So it's like less than one in 10 are going to have problems breastfeeding. How often do you see explants and are they becoming more popular? What, like what's going on with that? I know that some people are doing that. Explain to me what an explant is. I mean, are you serious? Oh, is it, you mean taking them out? Yeah. Okay. Well, I hadant is. I mean, are you serious? Oh, is it taking them out? Yeah. Okay. Well, I had, well, when I, once I started thinking of like the Latin and the English language and I was like, okay, X and M, then I got it, but I didn't come on. You can't
Starting point is 00:36:53 be a plastic surgeon. Yeah. Let me, let's talk about like putting a motorcycle together and we'll see how you fare. Let's talk about explants. Um, you know, I find very few women actually want to remove their breast implants if they were done right the first time. So what I get a lot of people that are just, they're traumatized or they're shocked. They just got implants that were just not in line with what they wanted in the first place. And that's what pains me because I'm like, it doesn't need to be that way. Of the women that want their implants out and they want to come up with other options like fat grafting, which we do, which is totally cool. It's because they had a bad experience the first time around. And that's
Starting point is 00:37:27 why everybody needs to make sure that they get the size that they want that matches their body. A 600cc implant is not going to look good on a 5'2", 110-pound woman. It's just too big. So this is kind of what I was trying to ask a little bit earlier. In a situation like that, you just go and say, hey, I want these giant, it doesn't work for some bodies. Right. It'll look good for like a year or two, but I'm not, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:52 and I really try to educate. And so as you guys know, I put everything out there. I put it on my social media. I put on my Instagram. I do it on my Snapchat where you can see all the steps I do for my operation. And sometimes I do consults too.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I talk about the reasons why I'm using a certain size. I'll even mention in the operation the base width and all that stuff. And that stuff is really important because we know statistically if you go a certain size and it starts to happen right around 400 cc's, complication rate and revision rate goes up. Below that, we're in a good zone where our complication rate and our revision rate stays pretty low. That's why it's hard for me to talk on anything other than my own experience. Cause I've had, I had a good experience the first time I've had a great experience this time. So I mean, I can just speak on my journey. Right. You also do something in the operating room where you sit the patient up. Totally. Can you talk about that kind of? Yeah. Um, I'm, I'm one of the few surgeons
Starting point is 00:38:44 that likes to use sizers during the operation um it delays the operate well it doesn't really delay it i think it's a necessary part because you want to see how the implants look when's the last time you went to a really fancy shoe store and bought a pair of shoes without trying them on first um we pretty much have a good idea of what our size is but sometimes we're off we're off by like a half size and to me that's not what people are coming to get done. They're not going to have me kind of guesstimate what their size should be. I want to see exactly how it looks. And especially for revisions, you cannot get away with shooting from the hip with doing revisions without using sizers. But
Starting point is 00:39:19 even for primary augmentations, I want to see how it looks on our patients before I commit them to that size. Because you're not here to buy a car. This is your body. You're making decisions about your body that you have to live with the rest of your life. So if you were giving someone advice on three questions, like the top three questions to ask their plastic surgeon, what would those be? That's a good question. Are you board certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery? There's a lot of people out there, a lot of doctors out there. Believe it or not, in the United States, you can do any kind of surgery you want if you've done one year of internship. Yeah, so you go to medical school, right, and then you do one year of internship anywhere.
Starting point is 00:39:59 It can be in dermatology or it can be in pathology. You can go out and do open heart surgery legally. Okay. Now that typically is not that drastic, but you have general surgeons, you have other types of surgeons, obstetricians, and things like that, that are getting into breast augmentation that are really missing the amount of training that take, like for me, it took six years at USC doing probably 10,000 hours worth of breast surgery to get to the level that I'm at. So you want to ask, are they certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery? Not, are you just board certified? Because that could be, they could be board certified in general
Starting point is 00:40:34 surgery. They can be board certified in obstetrics. You want to make sure that they're actual plastic surgeons. That's number one. Number two, what do you, what do you do mostly? Do you do breast and body? Do you do rhinoplasty? Do you do facelifts? Um, and then, um, so yeah, find out what they do mostly and then find out some of the stuff that they do to, um, I would say now the latest is what do you do to reduce capsular contracture? Do you use a color funnel? Do you do irrigate? You know, these are some really specific things that are, um, there to find out if they're up to speed with some of the latest technology and latest advances that we have to really improve breast augmentation or breast surgery. And also, I have talked to a lot of people over DM. It's so important that you guys find the right doctor and you don't use a Groupon or you don't use a discount code.
Starting point is 00:41:22 In my opinion, this is your body. I mean, I think that you should do your research, look into the doctor. I know you can go on RealSelf. That's a very popular thing to do. I also think it's important too is to look at past work, to look at the doctor's past work and see if you like it. Right. That's the next level that you want to go on at least two consultations, maybe even more. You want to find a good fit between you and whoever the plastic surgeon may be. I'm not a good fit for everybody. And and so because this is somebody who you're completely trusting with your body, you're going under general anesthesia. You have no idea what's going to happen once you're asleep. And you have to completely trust that person that they're going to get you the goals that you want and then that they're going to be there for you afterwards to manage any concerns or any problems that you might be having. So it's a very personal decision and you got to have those basics that we talked about. And then beyond that, is it a good fit?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Like, are you guys meshing? Are you having a good conversation? Are your goals lining up with your surgeon about what you want to achieve? And are they listening to you? Are they trying to do the size that they think is right for you? Or are they, I mean, you know, you want them to pick, you want them to give you the size that you want. You don't want them to kind of put their impression upon you,
Starting point is 00:42:36 which happens a lot of times in these very busy practices. They just one size fits all. And I think it's a mistake. Speaking of like doing your research on mistakes, what is the most, if there is such a thing, what's the most common mistake or common fix that you see when say someone got a surgery, not from you somewhere else. And they come and they say, you know, I'm really not happy. This didn't go the way I wanted. Like, what is the, what is the most common thing? Cause I feel like if we educate people around that, that's what
Starting point is 00:42:58 they'll look out for. I think going too big and then going, um then thinking high profile is good. Again, we can talk for an hour just about implant dimensions alone, but implants have different levels of profiles. How much projection do you have versus the width? And sometimes more projection is not a good thing, and we talked about that already. But where I get the most complications are high- high profile implants and inframammary incisions. So here you are giving a very heavy implant with a very narrow base and you're making an incision on the bottom part of the breast. So I get so many people
Starting point is 00:43:34 bottoming out because their surgeon picked the wrong incision and they used the wrong implant. And then not only that, but they gave them, they went way too big. They didn't really think about the repercussions or the surgeon didn't want to take the time to explain to them, Hey, this is too big for your body. Like, that's not a good idea. Let's talk about something that matches your, your dimensions better. And I imagine like when you go that big, it's probably not so great on the back, but I don't know. Right. But I know. Yeah. How would you know? I'm just imagining. No, I saw, I saw a patient today. She had large implants. They were high profile.
Starting point is 00:44:06 She gained some weight. And where she normally wouldn't have back problems, she's now kind of more of a breast reduction kind of patient where I need to get these implants out for her and I need to give her a lift. So that does happen if you go way too big. Is getting fat into your boobs popular? Yes. I didn't say it right.
Starting point is 00:44:21 How do you say it? Injecting? Fat grafting. Fat grafting. Fat grafting to the breast, yes. Excuse me. It is very popular. I love to say it right. How do you say it? Injecting? Fat grafting. Fat grafting to the breast, yes. Excuse me. It is very popular.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I love to do it when I can. And again, I get a lot of shell shock patients that come out. They want to get rid of their implants completely and sometimes... I've actually had some influencers in regards to this that had this happen. And done correctly, you can replace an implant with fat grafting or you can just do a straightforward augmentation with fat grafting. You have to know its limitations. One, you need the fat. So where are you going to get that fat from? If you're, you know, 5% body fat, we're not going to be able to find any fat and you can't use someone else's fat. Sorry, Michael.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So the other thing... I can't use your ball fat. We don't want, Lauren, you don't want to go too big. The other thing is you've got to realize its limitations. With an implant, it's a very defined volume. We know what we're going to get. With fat grafting, we lose a certain percentage of fat. How well is that fat going to survive? Well, it depends on a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:45:22 How well do you graft it? It's like planting a garden. You don't just take a big bag of seeds and put it in one spot. You have to take a tiny little, tiny little droplet of fat and place it into its own little environment to, to get the best graft take. And that takes time. So it's more expensive. It's a good option for people that are not looking to go more than a cup size improvement. Okay. Scarring with, with incisions. Want to talk about both of these things i have heard a lot of people and i don't know why this gives me severe anxiety but doing an implant through a
Starting point is 00:45:50 belly button like that for some reason that makes me want to like lay down and die i don't know why it just to me that just seems counterintuitive like why would people why does people want to my dad used to yell at me when i do something hard he's like you're trying to go through the asshole to get to the tooth. That seems kind of similar. It's like a similar situation. That's how, I don't know though. Maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Okay. And I also, this is kind of a two-sided question. Why, why do some people go underneath the breast? I would like to know why doctors pick certain areas to insert the implant. Yeah. So the, the transumbilical breast augmentation is called the TUBA for short. It came out in the 90s and was popular. Silicone implants were banned for a while in the United States and people were really worried that they'd cause cancer and all this stuff. They did all the studies. It turned out, you know what, they don't cause cancer.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Women just get breast cancer regardless if they have implants or not. And so they came out, you know, they started thinking of creative ways to deliver the saline implant. And someone found out that you can go through the belly button to put a saline implant. And, you know, I've seen some really good results out there. I've seen some kind of disasters with it, too, because it's really hard to meticulously dissect. I spend so much time dissecting the pocket perfectly for the implant. To try to do it through the belly button is really challenging. And I don't think anybody has done it to the point where it makes a huge difference.
Starting point is 00:47:16 If done correctly, a peri-reeler incision, really, really small, is almost as imperceptible as a belly button incision. What does that mean? Well, so a peri-reeler incision is what I typically like to do because the border of the areola has a natural color difference between the rest of the breast. And if you make your incision and you close it very precisely and you tape and you do scar gel for three months afterwards, no one's going to see it. So my opinion is that the very number one most important thing to do is have a good breast shape and position.
Starting point is 00:47:41 If you fail on that, everything else doesn't matter. Your scar doesn't matter, right? So stick to your priority first. What's going to give you that? The peri reeler or the inframammary incision is going to do that. Why I don't like the inframammary, that's in the bottom crease of the breast. Okay, that's a very common option. I certainly do those in certain women that request it. I don't like it because myself and a couple of the breast surgeons that do a lot of these see a lot higher rate of bottoming out. You're making an incision on the support structure of the breast. I mean if you're going to do work on a house, why are you going to go through the foundation
Starting point is 00:48:13 to do this work on the house, right? You're going to weaken the whole house structure because you just made your incision on the bottom part of the breast. So that's why I don't like to use it. And under boob is a very popular fashion thing right now. So you can still get bottoming out without it. But the other reason I don't like the inframammary incision, because with fashion these days, you raise your arms up,
Starting point is 00:48:33 you can see that line on the bottom. On the border of the areola, no one can see it unless you're completely naked. And you have to look closely. And you gave me the scar cream that I'm supposed to use and you really stress the importance of using the scar cream. It's a good thing you told me that was scar cream because Lauren's always bringing
Starting point is 00:48:51 all these face creams and serums and I've been trying to get my face game up and I saw that and it looked exactly like- I thought you were going to say you thought it was Vaseline and took it to the computer. It looked like, no. I'm like, that's my scar cream.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Don't use that. It looked like a face serum but then you told me that and I said, okay, I better not be that's my scar cream. Don't use that. It looks like a face serum. But then you told me that and I said, okay, I better not be rude. But I bet it actually might look good. No, don't touch it. Do you ever get any flack from other surgeons or doctors that don't have as, they're not as on point with their social media game? Because you're very on point.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And I could see maybe some other people in your field that are maybe getting a little older, aren't using social media, being maybe jealous or disrespecting it or kind of being like pissed that, you know, cause you get a lot of attention there and you guys do obviously great job with it. Yeah. That's a, that's a really good question. I think about five years ago, it was really taboo to do anything like on social media is patient privacy and all those concerns. But what I found is that patients absolutely love it, right? They love it. They want to show that they like, Hey mom, dad, and my friends and family, I'm getting my surgery. Tune in to Dr. Barrett and we're, uh, you can watch me get my surgery. They love it. I think times have changed. And fortunately that mentality has changed rather recently within the past two years, our professional society has developed guidelines.
Starting point is 00:49:59 So American society for aesthetic plastic surgery has developed guidelines to kind of make, make sure that you have permission to patients and do it, which I totally get. It doesn't take away from your surgery. So you'll never see me like distracted from the surgery doing dancing where you heard about that surgeon down in Florida who was doing liposuction. She was an OBGYN doing liposuction. She was dancing during the operation. I would never do something that takes away from the operation.
Starting point is 00:50:22 It would always be- We're just documenting. Documenting, yeah. And I'm explaining as I'm going, okay? Just like I would teaching and, and, and patients love that. So I think with appropriate guidelines, um, I think our society, our, our professional society and some of the older surgeons have now kind of accepted it. But, um, yeah, I do, I do catch a lot of flack. There had to be a period where these guys were like, what the hell is this guy doing? But also I assume it's great for the business too because it's great one it's great marketing
Starting point is 00:50:47 and two it's like he's being transparent yeah and if you you know if you're a patient and you're thinking you're like hey am i going to go to this guy where i can't really see anything or am i going to go to this guy one he's getting great results but two i can see what he's up to and what he's about and i think it's super smart but i was just curious i know there's podcasts more focused on the surgery element but i was on the business. I was just curious and annoyingly enough Instagram banned his first profile because he showed nipples, right? Right? Like who cares if you showed I mean, I think that is so I'm, not prude like that show the nipples, but i'm pretty yeah, i'm pretty sure it was competitors who reported me So it's just like
Starting point is 00:51:18 Those guys i'm talking about everyone go follow dr Barrett's because he has a new account and his account with 35,000 people got banned. So we need to go support him. It's at Barrett Plastic Surgery, right? It's two R's and two E's. Two T's. Two T's.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah. Two R's and two T's. That's good though because it's like two boobs. It's like two R's, two T's. That's a good way to remember it. Can you count to two? I want to know this. This is maybe a little bit off topic of the boobs. I've been watching you on social media and I'm watching that you have so much energy and you probably have to be so
Starting point is 00:51:58 focused when you're doing surgery. I can only imagine you can't have any distractions. One, how do you sort of get those distractions out of the way when you have a surgery? And two, how do you have the energy? Is it coffee? Is it sleep? Is there a meditation trick that you do? Is there something you can give to our audience that's sort of a takeaway, that's something that gives you a lot of energy? Yeah. So surgery days are my favorite part of the week because here I am. It's almost like an athletic performance. A lot of people, you know, sometimes I'm in there for hours doing surgery, and it takes a lot of both focus and physical stamina.
Starting point is 00:52:34 So a lot of my work is done preparation days before, so I kind of have my plan laid out. If your surgeon doesn't have your plan laid out, like for you, I had a tentative plan because there were some unknowns, and then I have game plans. If this happens, do this, if this happens, do that. That's all predetermined in my head. Cause I don't, I don't have time to sit around in the operating room and kind of come up with a plan, um, because you're under anesthesia, you know, that's a critical time. You want to make use best use of your time. The other thing is I work out. I, I, I, I'm training for a marathon, uh, next year and, um and to be operating for 10 and 12 hours a day, it's physically demanding. And, you know, I have to keep active to maintain the kind of the strength
Starting point is 00:53:11 and the mental focus to do these operations. And on the weekends, you're always riding your bike. You're, I mean, you're very active. Like it's crazy. How long is a boob surgery with you normally? I know it's different. Anywhere from an hour and a half. And that's another thing, by the way. If your surgeon is bragging about doing your breast augmentation in 15 minutes, run the other way. I'm good at this and there's no way I could do what I do in 15 minutes. There's just no way. At least an hour and a half.
Starting point is 00:53:39 An hour and a half, yeah. So some breast surgeries, breast lifts can take me up to five hours I've had. And, you know, some really challenging ones, maybe six hours at the most. Just depends on the situation. Tummy tucks and body contouring cases, they forgot to, I eat, I eat a grapefruit every morning. Oh yeah. I don't know what it is, but like a Dr. Obagi, who's a skincare guru. He, I listened to this. I listened to him one time and he talked about, and Obagi products are great, but I was like, this guy is 70 years old. How does he look so great? And he has the same energy. And he's like, he eats a grapefruit every morning. And so I started doing it. It's like light enough and it gives me energy to really get going. So I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Maybe that's my secret, grapefruit. I swear to God, I'm going to wake up tomorrow and you're going to be having a grapefruit. You're going to be enjoying one. I always take what people on this show come on and try. But that sounds good. I've been doing blueberries. Blueberries are good though too. No, he's doing blueberries because Howard Stern does blueberries every morning.
Starting point is 00:54:43 No, I look at people. One, yes, you want the performance. But now as I'm getting older, I'm not that I'm not old, but I look at people that are living long lives. They don't have to be like super crazy athletes, but people that are making it past, you know, 60s, 70s and still looking good. I'm like, what the, what are they doing to make it that far and still perform that well? I heard blueberries now. You're a young guy with grapefruits. What is a book, a resource, a podcast that you can recommend to our audience before you go that is maybe changed your life, changed your practice? You said you were OCD.
Starting point is 00:55:15 So is there something maybe that's that that has helped with that? Well, I've been reading your book lately and it's changed my life. Riveting. I, um, I've, I've been actually working out and doing your exercises, um, have really kind of shaped my buttock area. My wife's been very happy and, um, I'm very thankful. No, you know, um, I, you know, internet is the way to go these days. YouTube, YouTube, watch videos. And, um, what type of videos you watching?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Um, I mean, there's, there's surgery videos out there. I mean, I have my own YouTube channel that I just throw it all out there. So what you see on my social media is censored. And then I have like, you know, a hundred percent every step. Like if you could, if you want to study surgeries, you can actually study my surgeries through my YouTube. You know, you did a influencer, Christine Dominique's tummy tuck on your YouTube. I tried to watch it for one minute. Right. I tried.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, it's hardcore. Blood makes me nervous. Do you ever worry in your field about, I guess you can't, well, you're unique in the sense like an artist where you use your hand. So there's certain things people can copy and take from you, but there's certain things they can't, right? Right. Do you ever get nervous giving away the information or do you look at it?
Starting point is 00:56:21 I want it out there. You want it out there? I want it out there because I, you know what? I'm only one plastic surgeon. I can't do the whole world's plastic surgery, right? information or just you look i want it out there i want it out there because i um you know what i'm only one plastic surgeon i can't do the whole world's plastic surgery right so it doesn't really matter to me if other plastic surgeons are upping their game because that's making the field better it's gonna it's gonna make more people happy you know because they're gonna get better results and it's gonna make more people more interested in plastic surgery and get rid of
Starting point is 00:56:43 that taboo associated with plastic surgery. So a really good plastic surgeon puts it out there. Get it out there. Let people learn from it. I think the way I do my surgeries, every other plastic surgeon should do it the same way. And that's why I don't hesitate to put it out there because it's just going to make better results for everybody. And plastic surgeries is going to be that much more popular. I feel like that as a content creator. I like to tell everyone my tips and tricks and it's like,
Starting point is 00:57:07 we, it's, it's collaborative. Right. Um, okay guys, Dr. Barrett has a very incredible special for you. Okay. So he's offered $500 off a booked surgery. Do you want to elaborate on that? Yes. So $500. So if, if you're Skinny Confidential and you had breasts and it's time for them to get exchanged or there's a problem with them you don't like, you want to downsize, upsize, swap them out, whatever you want. We are offering a special in conjunction with the Skinny that is $500 off your book surgery. You guys, honestly, I don't mean to brag, but I love my tits. Just throwing that out there. And I love them even more. Michael's eyeballs almost popped out of his head. They did. your book surgery you guys honestly i don't mean to brag but i love my tits just so just throwing
Starting point is 00:57:45 that i love them even more uh michael's eyeballs almost popped out of his head they did the first time i was yeah pretty much well because michael literally couldn't even he was like this i was pretty amazed it was like that cartoon like boing ray can we add that like somewhere like a cartoon like it was like i felt like a little i didn't know like what to do and how to react but yeah it was good but my question for you is what have you, what have you done with the old implants? Are those in like a special room? She has them doing. I'm doing something really diabolical.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I wanted to do something cool with them. No, no, don't. Just don't worry about them. She has them. She's doing something. I have a trick up my sleeve. Okay. Dr. Barrett's also offering $50 off lip filler service.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yes. Okay. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah. Say you're, you're happy with your breasts. You just want some nice improvement or natural enhancement. I have a big injectable practice. I love doing injections too. I get to know my patients because you're not under anesthesia. I do lots of lip injections. I'm a big fan of natural looking lips, whole website, naturallookinglips.com. We have a little special for that $50 off if you
Starting point is 00:58:42 want to just try something simple and not dive into a whole big breast surgery. And you guys can get both of these offers through March 1st, 2019. I mean, I don't know what to say about the boobs. There's not a better surgeon for boobs, in my opinion. He is really the booby doctor. Pimp yourself out. Tell us where to find you. If someone wants to watch your surgery, give us everything.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Right. So just Google Dr. Daniel Barrett. I'm pretty much the the only guy my website is drdanielbarrett.com and my instagram this is it's fun we have lots of good content every day you can see pictures of my daughter you can see pictures in the office you can see pictures of my results you can see the skinny confidential in the office it's bare plastic plastic surgery. Also I have on my highlights, I just added it. It says boobs. And I actually took the whole experience and put all my Insta stories in that category. So it's streamlined it. And I just did a YouTube video, boob job, part one, and a YouTube video, boob job, part two on my channel. So you guys will have to check it out.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Thank you so much for coming on. Absolutely. That was so fun. I was also thinking about making a highlight called boobs, but it was going to be a little different. No, I want to talk to you about Michael getting ball implants, but we'll talk about that later.
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